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Meyer</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Changing_order_of_values_for_P154"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Changing order of values for P154</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Thanks for pinging me on this thread (Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Maintenance_queries"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Maintenance queries</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#OpenRefine_&_queries"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">OpenRefine & queries</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Q18913642_ist_not_MEP"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Q18913642 ist not MEP</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Unrecognized URLs by DifoolBot</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#P1629_vs_P9073"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">P1629 vs P9073</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikidataa_opettelemaan!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z"><span id="Wikidataa_opettelemaan.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Wikidataa opettelemaan!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Wikidataa opettelemaan!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Susannaanas-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!"></span>Hei! Olisitko kiinnostunut osallistumaan Wikimedia Suomen järjestämään Wikidataan perehdyttävään projektiin. Pyydämme osallistujiksi wikipedistejä sekä organisaatioita, joiden kanssa opettelemme yhdessä, heidän aineistoillaan. Järjestämme lokakuun alussa Helsingissä työpajapäivän, jossa esitellään Wikidataa sekä suomeksi että englanniksi. Puhujat ja paikka varmistuvat vähitellen, päivämäärä on 2.10.2015. Valmistelemme myös online-opiskelupakettia suomeksi. Olisi hienoa saada mukaan Wikidataa aktiivisesti muokkaavia tilaisuuteen tai opastamaan/oppimaan online. Projektin työn alla olevat sivut ovat täällä: <a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiprojekti_Avoin_kulttuuridata_hy%C3%B6tyk%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6%C3%B6n" class="extiw" title="fi:Wikipedia:Wikiprojekti Avoin kulttuuridata hyötykäyttöön">fi:Wikipedia:Wikiprojekti Avoin kulttuuridata hyötykäyttöön</a>. Voit myös lähettää minulle sähköpostia käyttäjäsivuni kautta. </p><p>Toivottavasti tavataan! </p><p>Ystävällisesti, <a href="/wiki/User:Susannaanas" title="User:Susannaanas">Susannaanas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Susannaanas" title="User talk:Susannaanas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Susannaanas-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Susannaanas-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Susannaanas-2015-08-21T08:59:00.000Z-Wikidataa_opettelemaan!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merisää" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merisää-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"><span id="Meris.C3.A4.C3.A4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merisää-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Merisää<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merisää-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Merisää"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z-Merisää"></span>Hei! Ei mielestäni ollut ihan oikein <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2004285&diff=prev&oldid=419680660">tämä</a> yhdistely. Ylen merisää <i>ei ole</i> BBC:n merisää. Ne ovat kaksi eri ohjelmaa. Niiden tulkitseminen samaksi on samalla tavalla väärin kuin jos merkkaisimme <a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_presidentti" class="extiw" title="fi:Suomen presidentti">fi:Suomen presidentti</a> ja <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" class="extiw" title="en:President of the United States">en:President of the United States</a> samaa tarkoittaviksi. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jmk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jmk (page does not exist)">Jmk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmk" title="User talk:Jmk"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z-Merisää" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z-Merisää"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z-Merisää"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-2016-12-30T18:06:00.000Z-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Hei! Olet oikeassa, en tullut ajatelleeksi tätä. <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seewetterdienst" class="extiw" title="de:Seewetterdienst">De</a>-, <a href="https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Por%C5%9Dipira_veterprognozo" class="extiw" title="eo:Porŝipira veterprognozo">eo</a>-, <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj%C3%B6rapport" class="extiw" title="sv:Sjörapport">sv</a>-wikien artikkelitkaan eivät kyllä tähän kohteeseen oikein sovi. Ne käsittelevät aihetta joka suomeksi olisi <a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/s%C3%A4%C3%A4tiedotus_merenkulkijoille" class="extiw" title="fi:säätiedotus merenkulkijoille">säätiedotus merenkulkijoille</a> (tällä hetkellä ohjaussivu artikkeliin Merisää) eli yleisesti Merisää-ohjelmia radiossa ja sääennusteita merenkulkijoille meteorologiassa. Voisin ottaa seuraavaksi projektikseni fi-wikissä tuon ohjaussivun muokkaamisen artikkeliksi ja täällä Wikidatassa de-, eo-, ja sv-wikien artikkelien ja uuden fi-wikin artikkelin yhdistämisen uuteen kohteeseen. –<a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-2016-12-30T18:06:00.000Z-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 30 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-2016-12-30T18:06:00.000Z-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-2016-12-30T18:06:00.000Z-Jmk-2016-12-30T17:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="elevation_(Q106589819)" data-mw-thread-id="h-elevation_(Q106589819)-20240108142000"><span id="elevation_.28Q106589819.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-elevation_(Q106589819)-20240108142000"></span><a href="/wiki/Q106589819" title="Q106589819">elevation <small>(Q106589819)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-elevation_(Q106589819)-20240108142000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: elevation (Q106589819)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjoopy-20240108142000-elevation_(Q106589819)"></span>Hi, by <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q54050&diff=2048727978&oldid=2044445609">this</a> revert you removed <a href="/wiki/Q54050" title="Q54050">hill <small>(Q54050)</small></a> to be a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q106589819" title="Q106589819">elevation <small>(Q106589819)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/Q106589819" title="Q106589819">elevation <small>(Q106589819)</small></a> can be considered as superordinate term for mountains, hills, peaks etc... (see descriptions in other languages). Hence, in my opinion <a href="/wiki/Q54050" title="Q54050">hill <small>(Q54050)</small></a> definitely should remain a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q106589819" title="Q106589819">elevation <small>(Q106589819)</small></a>. Please advise. Kind regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Arjoopy" title="User:Arjoopy">Arjoopy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjoopy" title="User talk:Arjoopy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Arjoopy-20240108142000-elevation_(Q106589819)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjoopy-20240108142000-elevation_(Q106589819)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjoopy-20240108142000-elevation_(Q106589819)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240108143600-Arjoopy-20240108142000"></span>Hi! Based on the descriptions and <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> value of <a href="/wiki/Q106589819" title="Q106589819">elevation <small>(Q106589819)</small></a> I assumed the item is meant to be only a specific place type used by the Finnish National Land Survey (NLS). But I guess it could be turned into a more general term as you have described, or alternatively a new item could be created for that purpose? Maybe the original creator of the item <a href="/wiki/User:Susannaanas" title="User:Susannaanas">User:Susannaanas</a> could tell what was the purpose behind it? Kind regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240108143600-Arjoopy-20240108142000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240108143600-Arjoopy-20240108142000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240108143600-Arjoopy-20240108142000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjoopy-20240119122400-Samoasambia-20240108143600"></span>Hi again, in fact there already was a seperate item for the "superordinate" term; which was later merged into the Finnish NLS item considering it describes the exact same thing. Back then I did not oppose this merge; hence I would support turning the item into the more general term. Kind regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Arjoopy" title="User:Arjoopy">Arjoopy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjoopy" title="User talk:Arjoopy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Arjoopy-20240119122400-Samoasambia-20240108143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjoopy-20240119122400-Samoasambia-20240108143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjoopy-20240119122400-Samoasambia-20240108143600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330" data-mw-thread-id="h-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330-20240202190100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330-20240202190100"></span>Created a new Item: Item duplicated from Q979330<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330-20240202190100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Created a new Item: Item duplicated from Q979330"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CV213-20240202190100-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330"></span>Re <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q124396880&action=history">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q124396880&action=history</a> </p> <ol><li>What was the intention?</li> <li>How did you do it? [is there a tool for duplicating?]</li></ol> <p><a href="/wiki/User:CV213" title="User:CV213">CV213</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CV213" title="User talk:CV213"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-CV213-20240202190100-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CV213-20240202190100-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CV213-20240202190100-Created_a_new_Item:_Item_duplicated_from_Q979330"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240202191200-CV213-20240202190100"></span>Hey! That was unintentional. I installed the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Enhance_user_interface#Userscripts_to_aid_editing" title="Wikidata:Tools/Enhance user interface">"Duplicate item" user script</a> and found out the hard way that there was no dialog before dublication. I made a request for deletion but ultimately a redirect pointing to the original item was created by an admin. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240202191200-CV213-20240202190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240202191200-CV213-20240202190100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240202191200-CV213-20240202190100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CV213-20240202192300-Samoasambia-20240202191200"></span>Thank you! See <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets</a> - there is a tool for merging. This one has a dialogue :-). But I think, I never changed there anything. Always merge in lower ID. <a href="/wiki/User:CV213" title="User:CV213">CV213</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CV213" title="User talk:CV213"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-CV213-20240202192300-Samoasambia-20240202191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CV213-20240202192300-Samoasambia-20240202191200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CV213-20240202192300-Samoasambia-20240202191200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240202223900-CV213-20240202192300"></span>Yeah, I have been using the merge tool a lot. At the time I thought my accidental dublicate should have been deleted since having such item/redirect is pretty much useless, but anyways, merging it back was a good solution too. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240202223900-CV213-20240202192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240202223900-CV213-20240202192300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240202223900-CV213-20240202192300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä-20240302101100"><span id="Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kyl.C3.A4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä-20240302101100"></span>Suomen entisen kunnan kylä<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä-20240302101100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Suomen entisen kunnan kylä"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kooma-20240302101100-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä"></span>Hei! Minusta tämä kylän muuttaminen Suomen entisen kunnan kyläksi esim. <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q120299323&diff=2091388552&oldid=1974478382">tässä</a> vei asioita väärään suuntaan. Ravattila on edelleen kylä, mutta vain eri kunnassa. Kohteen <a href="/wiki/Q21130185" title="Q21130185">existing village of a former municipality in Finland <small>(Q21130185)</small></a> järkevyydestä onkin viritelty keskustelua ainakin sivuilla <a href="/wiki/Talk:Q21130185" title="Talk:Q21130185">Talk:Q21130185</a> ja <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P131#Former_administrative_units" title="Property talk:P131">Property talk:P131#Former administrative units</a> ja luultavasti myös Wikipedian puolella jossain, mutta systemaattisesti tuota ei valitettavasti ole koskaan korjattu. Mielestäni tuo hoituu paremmin noin kuten Ravattilassa olikin eli esiintymä kohteesta kylä ja asettamalla useampi arvo ominaisuudelle <a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">located in the administrative territorial entity <small dir="ltr">(P131)</small></a>. Tätä voi tosin olla vaikea automatisoidusti tehdä. Nyt kun katsoin, niin on myös kohde <a href="/wiki/Q47254761" title="Q47254761">village in Finland <small>(Q47254761)</small></a>, jota voisi tietysti käyttää tuon geneerisemmän kylän sijaan. –<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kooma&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kooma (page does not exist)">Kooma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kooma" title="User talk:Kooma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Kooma-20240302101100-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kooma-20240302101100-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kooma-20240302101100-Suomen_entisen_kunnan_kylä"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240316163100-Kooma-20240302101100"></span>Hei, kiitos kommentistasi! En ollut huomannutkaan noita aikaisempia keskusteluita. Tein alun perin nuo muutokset sillä perusteella, että kylien merkkaaminen <i>Suomen entisten kuntien kyliksi</i> vaikutti olevan yleinen käytäntö. Olen kyllä samaa mieltä siitä, että se on melko turhaa ja harhaanjohtavaa. Korjasin tänään kaikki fiwikin <a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Suomen_entisten_kuntien_kyl%C3%A4t" class="extiw" title="fi:Luokka:Suomen entisten kuntien kylät">Suomen entisten kuntien kylät -luokassa</a> olevat kylät, paitsi luovutetuilla alueilla olevat, esiintymiksi kohteista <a href="/wiki/Q47254761" title="Q47254761">village in Finland <small>(Q47254761)</small></a>. Täytyy vielä pohtia, mitä noille luovutetuilla alueilla oleville tekisi. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240316163100-Kooma-20240302101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240316163100-Kooma-20240302101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240316163100-Kooma-20240302101100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rollback_rights" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rollback_rights-20240823162000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rollback_rights-20240823162000"></span>Rollback rights<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rollback_rights-20240823162000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Rollback rights"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000-Rollback_rights"></span>Hi Samoasambia, I've seen that you're doing a good job with anti-vandalism and are a trusted user, so I was wondering if you'd mind if I gave you rollbacker rights? Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User:Wüstenspringmaus"><span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User talk:Wüstenspringmaus"><i>talk</i></a></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000-Rollback_rights" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000-Rollback_rights"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000-Rollback_rights"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240823162600-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User:Wüstenspringmaus">Wüstenspringmaus</a>: That would be great, thanks! –<a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240823162600-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240823162600-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240823162600-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823162000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823163400-Samoasambia-20240823162600"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> thanks for your work here, please make sure you are familiar with our <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Rollbackers" title="Wikidata:Rollbackers">policy</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User:Wüstenspringmaus"><span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User talk:Wüstenspringmaus"><i>talk</i></a></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823163400-Samoasambia-20240823162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823163400-Samoasambia-20240823162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240823163400-Samoasambia-20240823162600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Järjestyksen_muuttaminen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen-20240910141600"><span id="J.C3.A4rjestyksen_muuttaminen"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen-20240910141600"></span>Järjestyksen muuttaminen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen-20240910141600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Järjestyksen muuttaminen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apalsola-20240910141600-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen"></span>Hei! Huomasin, että olit muuttanut arvojen järjestystä <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property%3AP12980&diff=2246206168&oldid=2246206124">muokkauksessasi</a>. Onko tuohon jokin helpompi ja nopeampi tapa kuin vain kirjoittaa arvot uudelleen oikeaan järjestykseen? ––<a href="/wiki/User:Apalsola" title="User:Apalsola">Apalsola</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apalsola" title="User talk:Apalsola">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Apalsola" title="Special:Contributions/Apalsola">c</a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Apalsola-20240910141600-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apalsola-20240910141600-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apalsola-20240910141600-Järjestyksen_muuttaminen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240910142100-Apalsola-20240910141600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Apalsola" title="User:Apalsola">Apalsola</a>: Kyllä vain! <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets" title="Special:Preferences">Asetuksista</a> löytyy pienoisohjelma nimeltä <i>Rearrange Values</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240910142100-Apalsola-20240910141600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240910142100-Apalsola-20240910141600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240910142100-Apalsola-20240910141600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apalsola-20240910172300-Samoasambia-20240910142100"></span>Kiitos! Tämä helpottaa monessa tilanteessa. <a href="/wiki/User:Apalsola" title="User:Apalsola">Apalsola</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apalsola" title="User talk:Apalsola">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Apalsola" title="Special:Contributions/Apalsola">c</a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Apalsola-20240910172300-Samoasambia-20240910142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apalsola-20240910172300-Samoasambia-20240910142100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apalsola-20240910172300-Samoasambia-20240910142100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer-20240917122100"><span id="Nicole_Sch.C3.BCtz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer-20240917122100"></span>Nicole Schütz and Nicole L. Meyer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer-20240917122100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Nicole Schütz and Nicole L. Meyer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Korg-20240917122100-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer"></span>Hello, I noticed <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21608521&diff=prev&oldid=2120202472&diffmode=source">this edit</a>. What makes you say that <a href="/wiki/Q21608521" title="Q21608521">Nicole Schütz <small>(Q21608521)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q6042063" title="Q6042063">Nicole L. Meyer <small>(Q6042063)</small></a> are the same person? <a href="/wiki/User:Korg" title="User:Korg">Korg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Korg" title="User talk:Korg"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Korg-20240917122100-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Korg-20240917122100-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Korg-20240917122100-Nicole_Schütz_and_Nicole_L._Meyer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240917124300-Korg-20240917122100"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Korg" title="User:Korg">Korg</a>. Honestly I'm not sure what I was thinking there. They seem to be different persons. I probably saw the cywiki article about Nicole L. Meyer that <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21608521&oldid=2008308302">was</a> falsely linked to <a href="/wiki/Q21608521" title="Q21608521">Nicole Schütz <small>(Q21608521)</small></a>. Thanks for bringing up the issue, I will fix it. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240917124300-Korg-20240917122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240917124300-Korg-20240917122100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240917124300-Korg-20240917122100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Korg-20240917160300-Samoasambia-20240917124300"></span>Thank you for the correction! The mistake was made through these edits by <a href="/wiki/User:Jason.nlw" title="User:Jason.nlw">Jason.nlw</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000" title="User:Llywelyn2000">Llywelyn2000</a>: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21608521&diff=prev&oldid=413193121&diffmode=source">[1]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21608521&diff=prev&oldid=414446688&diffmode=source">[2]</a>. Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Korg" title="User:Korg">Korg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Korg" title="User talk:Korg"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Korg-20240917160300-Samoasambia-20240917124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Korg-20240917160300-Samoasambia-20240917124300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Korg-20240917160300-Samoasambia-20240917124300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Changing_order_of_values_for_P154" data-mw-thread-id="h-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154-20240924065900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154-20240924065900"></span>Changing order of values for P154<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154-20240924065900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Changing order of values for P154"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154"></span>Hi, Just saw that you made the following change for the European Parliament and it led to cascading notifications for many European parties. Just wondering what this was about, as there was not much I could see -- just changing the order of logos? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Schwarz" title="User talk:Julius Schwarz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900-Changing_order_of_values_for_P154"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240924095900-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a>, sorry if that caused a huge number of norifications for you. Someone on the talk page asked to add a logo without the text, and after doing so I changed it (with <i>Rearrange Values</i> gadget) to be in the first statement because it just looks a bit nicer in the user interface to have the preferred logo first (eventhough it doesn't make any difference how the data is used elsewhere). PS. if you're interested, please join <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Wikiproject_European_Union" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Wikiproject European Union">Wikidata:Wikiproject European Union</a> created by me earlier this year. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20240924095900-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240924095900-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240924095900-Julius_Schwarz-20240924065900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924113000-Samoasambia-20240924095900"></span>No worry, I was just curious as to what this was. And thanks for the project invite! <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Schwarz" title="User talk:Julius Schwarz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924113000-Samoasambia-20240924095900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924113000-Samoasambia-20240924095900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Julius_Schwarz-20240924113000-Samoasambia-20240924095900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)-20241003180900"><span id="Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_.28Wikidata:Edit_groups.2FQSv2T.2F1726991148900.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)-20241003180900"></span>Thanks for pinging me on this thread (<a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900" title="Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2T/1726991148900">Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2T/1726991148900</a>)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)-20241003180900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Thanks for pinging me on this thread (Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swpb-20241003180900-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)"></span>Thought you might be interested in what's going on with P642: I just (re-)launched <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Deprecate_P642" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Deprecate P642">a WikiProject</a> for deprecating it, with new tools and better guidance. In case that's something you'd want to contribute any time to. <a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swpb" title="User talk:Swpb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Swpb-20241003180900-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swpb-20241003180900-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swpb-20241003180900-Thanks_for_pinging_me_on_this_thread_(Wikidata:Edit_groups/QSv2T/1726991148900)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241003183400-Swpb-20241003180900"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a>, that's exactly why I got the idea to ping you. I'm following the project with interest and maybe I will find some time to contribute. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241003183400-Swpb-20241003180900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241003183400-Swpb-20241003180900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241003183400-Swpb-20241003180900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swpb-20241003194100-Samoasambia-20241003183400"></span>Cool, thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swpb" title="User talk:Swpb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Swpb-20241003194100-Samoasambia-20241003183400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swpb-20241003194100-Samoasambia-20241003183400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swpb-20241003194100-Samoasambia-20241003183400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maintenance_queries" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maintenance_queries-20241006121100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maintenance_queries-20241006121100"></span>Maintenance queries<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maintenance_queries-20241006121100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Maintenance queries"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bouzinac-20241006121100-Maintenance_queries"></span>Hi, I noticed your P27 maintenance queries, very useful, thanks! But would it be possible to query something like </p><p><code>?item wdt:P17 ?value. (a property X, here P17)</code> </p><p><code> ?value (wdt:P31/(wdt:P279*)) wd:Q101352.</code> (instead of Q101352, put most generic possible value that should obviously not be inside the property X) </p><p>I can imagine this kind of query could easily query out, so if you had a better idea to find misleading data for a property X ? <span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 8px;background:#303030"><a href="/wiki/User:Bouzinac" title="User:Bouzinac"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Bouzinac</b></span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bouzinac" title="User talk:Bouzinac">💬</a>●<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bouzinac" title="Special:Contributions/Bouzinac">✒️</a>●<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bouzinac/UB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bouzinac/UB (page does not exist)">💛</a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Bouzinac-20241006121100-Maintenance_queries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 6 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bouzinac-20241006121100-Maintenance_queries"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bouzinac-20241006121100-Maintenance_queries"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241006171000-Bouzinac-20241006121100"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Bouzinac" title="User:Bouzinac">Bouzinac</a> Do you mean like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/BSdz">this</a>? Or if you want the value of property X to be a instance of something you could do it like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/BSeK">this</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241006171000-Bouzinac-20241006121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241006171000-Bouzinac-20241006121100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241006171000-Bouzinac-20241006121100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bouzinac-20241006201400-Samoasambia-20241006171000"></span>Hum not sure. I wanted to find bad values for, in this case, the <a href="/wiki/Property:P17" title="Property:P17">country <small dir="ltr">(P17)</small></a>. For instance finding typo as in <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q126040428&oldid=2229413214#P27">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q126040428&oldid=2229413214#P27</a> <span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 8px;background:#303030"><a href="/wiki/User:Bouzinac" title="User:Bouzinac"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Bouzinac</b></span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bouzinac" title="User talk:Bouzinac">💬</a>●<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bouzinac" title="Special:Contributions/Bouzinac">✒️</a>●<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bouzinac/UB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bouzinac/UB (page does not exist)">💛</a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Bouzinac-20241006201400-Samoasambia-20241006171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 6 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bouzinac-20241006201400-Samoasambia-20241006171000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bouzinac-20241006201400-Samoasambia-20241006171000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="OpenRefine_&_queries" data-mw-thread-id="h-OpenRefine_&_queries-20241106154900"><span id="OpenRefine_.26_queries"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-OpenRefine_&_queries-20241106154900"></span>OpenRefine & queries<span data-mw-comment-end="h-OpenRefine_&_queries-20241106154900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: OpenRefine & queries"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106154900-OpenRefine_&_queries"></span>Thanks again for your help with <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Bot_requests#Request_to_add_datagraphic(s)_to_'Economy_of_country'_items_(2024-10-19)" title="Wikidata:Bot requests">this bot task</a>. How did you match files from the Common category or from the Wikidata search (which ever you used) with the Wikidata items that match a part of the Commons file title? </p><p>I'm looking to do something similar where the file-title would be used to identify the Wikidata item to add some file statement (including a qualifier). I have OpenRefine running and I could import a CSV file of the filenames. I could add an extra column for the sdc:M… if that helps and a column for the extracted title of the Wikipedia article title. I'd like to write to the Wikidata item of the Wikipedia article. How you did it would help. I would also use QuickStatements. <a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prototyperspective" title="User talk:Prototyperspective"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Prototyperspective-20241106154900-OpenRefine_&_queries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106154900-OpenRefine_&_queries"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20241106154900-OpenRefine_&_queries"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241106162500-Prototyperspective-20241106154900"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a>! I listed all the files in the relevant category with Petscan (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29744929">[3]</a>), and since all the country export treemaps of 2019 had been uploaded at the same time they showed nicely together in the results list. I copy-pasted the file names into OpenRefine, duplicated the file name column with <i>Split into several columns</i> function, removed the repeating parts of the file names with <i>Replace</i> function which left me a column of country names, and finally I just reconciled the country column to Wikidata items, though it needed a bit manual intervention for some countries. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241106162500-Prototyperspective-20241106154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241106162500-Prototyperspective-20241106154900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241106162500-Prototyperspective-20241106154900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106171900-Samoasambia-20241106162500"></span>Thanks, I'll try that. <span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008000;">I just reconciled the country column to Wikidata items</span> How to reconcile with Wikidata item labels? (Or alternatively the label of the en Wikipedia article if you happen to know that) <a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prototyperspective" title="User talk:Prototyperspective"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Prototyperspective-20241106171900-Samoasambia-20241106162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106171900-Samoasambia-20241106162500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20241106171900-Samoasambia-20241106162500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106174900-Prototyperspective-20241106171900"></span>I just selected "against no particular" type and will mention this somewhere at the help page since matching to labels seems like a common way to use this tool. <ul><li>A problem with that is that it shows many items to reconcile with; it should choose the first of these by default and maybe if reconciling with title in specific or via another way that is already possible. Basically I'd like to set all items as matched via the first item it found.</li> <li>The main problem for now is I can't export or download the quickstatements. When I click <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://openrefine.org/docs/manual/wikibase/uploading#uploading-with-quickstatements">Export</a> Quick Statements file, it just opens an empty new tab and refreshes the page. When I log in and select Wikibase edits and let it do the Wikidata edits, no edits are made despite that some should be made according to the Preview. <a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prototyperspective" title="User talk:Prototyperspective"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Prototyperspective-20241106174900-Prototyperspective-20241106171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106174900-Prototyperspective-20241106171900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20241106174900-Prototyperspective-20241106171900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106231800-Prototyperspective-20241106174900"></span>Sorry for bugging you, asked <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Tools/OpenRefine#Doesn't_work_(can't_export)" title="Wikidata talk:Tools/OpenRefine">here</a> instead now (incl a third problem) and found a workaround for the second problem by now: it still works with the previous version of openrefine. <a href="/wiki/User:Prototyperspective" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Prototyperspective">Prototyperspective</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prototyperspective" title="User talk:Prototyperspective"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Prototyperspective-20241106231800-Prototyperspective-20241106174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prototyperspective-20241106231800-Prototyperspective-20241106174900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prototyperspective-20241106231800-Prototyperspective-20241106174900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q18913642_ist_not_MEP" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP-20241106163800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP-20241106163800"></span>Q18913642 ist not MEP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP-20241106163800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Q18913642 ist not MEP"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18913642&diff=prev&oldid=2270950275"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ephraim33-20241106163800-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP"></span>This is not correct</a>. The Member of the European Parliament is Q3876996. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/de/256952/NIKOS_PAPPAS/home">https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/de/256952/NIKOS_PAPPAS/home</a> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ephraim33&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ephraim33 (page does not exist)">Ephraim33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ephraim33" title="User talk:Ephraim33"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Ephraim33-20241106163800-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ephraim33-20241106163800-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ephraim33-20241106163800-Q18913642_ist_not_MEP"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241106164800-Ephraim33-20241106163800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ephraim33&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ephraim33 (page does not exist)">Ephraim33</a>: Oh, thanks for pointing out. I was looking for items with references pointing to <a href="/wiki/Q85301215" title="Q85301215">Members of the European Parliament <small>(Q85301215)</small></a> but who where not MEPs, so that felt suspicious. I reverted my edits and <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18913642&diff=prev&oldid=2270973180">removed</a> the false reference. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241106164800-Ephraim33-20241106163800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241106164800-Ephraim33-20241106163800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241106164800-Ephraim33-20241106163800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot-20241112142600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot-20241112142600"></span>Unrecognized URLs by DifoolBot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot-20241112142600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Unrecognized URLs by DifoolBot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Difool-20241112142600-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot"></span>Hi Samoasambia, thank you for updating the URL match patterns for external identifier properties! To assist, <a href="/wiki/User:Difool/unrecognized_urls" title="User:Difool/unrecognized urls">I've created a page</a> that groups the reference URLs that DifoolBot doesn't recognize. The list is ordered with the most unrecognized domains at the top. </p><p>For the bot to convert a reference URL into an external ID, the following conditions must be met: </p> <ul><li>The property of the external ID must have one <a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small dir="ltr">(P9073)</small></a>. Properties with zero or more than one value are ignored. For example, <a href="/wiki/Property:P8336" title="Property:P8336">MNBAQ artist ID <small dir="ltr">(P8336)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P4200" title="Property:P4200">Christie's creator ID <small dir="ltr">(P4200)</small></a> on the list, do not have an applicable 'stated in' value. I don't have experience adding these values, so any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Property:P8966" title="Property:P8966">URL match pattern <small dir="ltr">(P8966)</small></a> must match exactly; the bot essentially adds a $ to the regular expression.</li> <li>For some reason, the script does not understand "\p{L}" parameters in the regular expression, so these are skipped.</li> <li>If the regular expression matches but returns multiple groups that are disjoint, and the property has no <a href="/wiki/Property:P8967" title="Property:P8967">URL match replacement value <small dir="ltr">(P8967)</small></a>, those are ignored as well.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Difool" title="User:Difool">Difool</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Difool" title="User talk:Difool"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Difool-20241112142600-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Difool-20241112142600-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Difool-20241112142600-Unrecognized_URLs_by_DifoolBot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241112182100-Difool-20241112142600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Difool" title="User:Difool">Difool</a>: Thanks, that is really helpful! I actually found the page from the bot's edit log a couple hours before you messaged me, and I added/edited match patterns for the most obvious cases. Btw, are capturing groups within the ID capturing group (like <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P271&diff=prev&oldid=2273637174">here</a>) acceptable or should I make them non-capturing too? <a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small dir="ltr">(P9073)</small></a> needs a some type of website/list/database/work as a value, not an organization, and that often means a new item has to be created for that statement. Libraries are apparently a subclass of a "work" which peaces the constraint but it is not preferable. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241112182100-Difool-20241112142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241112182100-Difool-20241112142600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241112182100-Difool-20241112142600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Difool-20241113014700-Samoasambia-20241112182100"></span>Yes, capturing groups within the ID group are accepted. If the match returns multiple groups, the first group is used for the ID, as long as all other groups are either empty or contained within the first group (You can <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/DifoolBot/viaf/blob/194125c99e367a2a0714dc56039430818f1169dc/statedin.py#L100C13-L111C26">find the code here</a>) For example, I changed <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7552&diff=prev&oldid=2273460688">this regular expression</a>, because sv/en was the first group. Thanks, I'll go ahead and try adding P9073 values to those IDs. <a href="/wiki/User:Difool" title="User:Difool">Difool</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Difool" title="User talk:Difool"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Difool-20241113014700-Samoasambia-20241112182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Difool-20241113014700-Samoasambia-20241112182100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Difool-20241113014700-Samoasambia-20241112182100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241113215600-Difool-20241113014700"></span>Great! Will the unrecognized URLs page get any updates? <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241113215600-Difool-20241113014700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241113215600-Difool-20241113014700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20241113215600-Difool-20241113014700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Difool-20241115020100-Samoasambia-20241113215600"></span>I've run the script to update the page, but nothing changed. So, I increased the size to 150 items. The list remains unchanged because the bot tracks items it has modified and skips them if asked to modify again. I plan to update this functionality to allow changes after 30 days or so, and then I'll let it go through items with updated URL match replacement values. <a href="/wiki/User:Difool" title="User:Difool">Difool</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Difool" title="User talk:Difool"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Difool-20241115020100-Samoasambia-20241113215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Difool-20241115020100-Samoasambia-20241113215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Difool-20241115020100-Samoasambia-20241113215600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="P1629_vs_P9073" data-mw-thread-id="h-P1629_vs_P9073-20241112204300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-P1629_vs_P9073-20241112204300"></span>P1629 vs P9073<span data-mw-comment-end="h-P1629_vs_P9073-20241112204300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samoasambia&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: P1629 vs P9073"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vicarage-20241112204300-P1629_vs_P9073"></span>I don't understand the logic you are applying to switch between <a href="/wiki/Property:P1629" title="Property:P1629">Wikidata item of this property <small dir="ltr">(P1629)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small dir="ltr">(P9073)</small></a>. Can you explain, and do you plan to change <a href="/wiki/Property:P2378" title="Property:P2378">issued by <small dir="ltr">(P2378)</small></a> which I rely on in my queries? <a href="/wiki/User:Vicarage" title="User:Vicarage">Vicarage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vicarage" title="User talk:Vicarage"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Vicarage-20241112204300-P1629_vs_P9073" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vicarage-20241112204300-P1629_vs_P9073"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vicarage-20241112204300-P1629_vs_P9073"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241112212600-Vicarage-20241112204300"></span>Thanks for the questions. Property <a href="/wiki/Property:P1629" title="Property:P1629">Wikidata item of this property <small dir="ltr">(P1629)</small></a> should be used when there is an item that matches exactly with the property, so for external ID properties the P1629 items should be subclasses of identifier. Property <a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small dir="ltr">(P9073)</small></a> tells which item should be used as a value for <a href="/wiki/Property:P248" title="Property:P248">stated in <small dir="ltr">(P248)</small></a> when the property is used in references. DifoolBot uses these P9073 values in generating proper references out of URLs (see discussion above). A concrete example would be <a href="/wiki/Property:P2409" title="Property:P2409">NII article ID <small dir="ltr">(P2409)</small></a> that has <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P1629" title="Property:P1629">Wikidata item of this property <small>(P1629)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q118976435" title="Q118976435">NII article ID <small>(Q118976435)</small></a></span></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2202089130">.mw-parser-output .statement{margin:0 .2em;background:var(--background-color-base,#fff);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .statement .subject{padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .predicate{background:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);color:var(--color-emphasized,#000);padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .object{padding:0 .2em}</style>, <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small>(P9073)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q115921507" title="Q115921507">CiNii Articles <small>(Q115921507)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> and <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P2378" title="Property:P2378">issued by <small>(P2378)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q4346622" title="Q4346622">National Institute of Informatics <small>(Q4346622)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">.</dd> <dd>Previously P1629 was often used to note some sort of relationship between an item and a property but later more detailed properties like <a href="/wiki/Property:P9073" title="Property:P9073">applicable 'stated in' value <small dir="ltr">(P9073)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P10726" title="Property:P10726">class of non-item property value <small dir="ltr">(P10726)</small></a> were created. DifoolBot needs P9073 values and that's why I made the changes to external ID properties today. I'm not planning to remove any <a href="/wiki/Property:P2378" title="Property:P2378">issued by <small dir="ltr">(P2378)</small></a>, they are fine as they are. <a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia#c-Samoasambia-20241112212600-Vicarage-20241112204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241112212600-Vicarage-20241112204300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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