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It’s not a perspective, an approach, a belief, a political position, or a paradigm.” <br /></i><i>– <a href="https://neuroqueer.com/neurodiversity-terms-and-definitions/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Dr. Nick Walker</a></i></p><p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="color: #829356;">The Neurodiversity Movement is a Human Rights Movement.</span> </strong>“The<span style="color: #ad2a1a;"> <strong>Neurodiversity Movement</strong></span> says that people with brain-based disabilities (like autism, intellectual disabilities, learning disabilities, or mental health disabilities) should be accepted and included in society just like neurotypical people (people without brain-based disabilities).” – <a href="https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan#position-statements" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Autistic Self Advocacy Network</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d7227a2 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="d7227a2" data-element_type="section"><div class="elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default"><div class="elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-b93e022" data-id="b93e022" data-element_type="column"><div class="elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated"><div class="elementor-element elementor-element-6301815 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer" data-id="6301815" data-element_type="widget" data-widget_type="spacer.default"><div class="elementor-widget-container"><div class="elementor-spacer"><div class="elementor-spacer-inner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4b54bae elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="4b54bae" data-element_type="section"><div class="elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default"><div class="elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-19300d6" data-id="19300d6" data-element_type="column"><div class="elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated"><div class="elementor-element elementor-element-e07276e elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor" data-id="e07276e" data-element_type="widget" data-settings="{"_animation":"zoomIn"}" data-widget_type="text-editor.default"><div class="elementor-widget-container"><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 24pt;">Therapist Neurodiversity Collective, Inc.<span style="font-size: 14pt;">®</span> is an international neurodiversity-affirming therapy, education, and advocacy organization</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><img decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-8961 aligncenter" src="https://therapistndc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Rainbow-Infinity.png" alt="" width="300" height="100" /></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 24pt;">that was founded on January 11, 2018.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-97cac61 elementor-section-content-space-between elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="97cac61" data-element_type="section"><div class="elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default"><div class="elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-21e28b2" data-id="21e28b2" data-element_type="column"><div class="elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated"><div class="elementor-element elementor-element-c834e24 noselect elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor" data-id="c834e24" data-element_type="widget" data-widget_type="text-editor.default"><div class="elementor-widget-container"><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: #2b2b2b;"><span class="noselect">What we do:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">✦ Champion a transformative vision of acceptance and equitable inclusion for autistic, other-neurodivergent, and other-disabled people.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">✦ Offer unparalleled, <a href="https://therapistndc.org/education/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">free</a> and <a href="https://neurodiversity-training.therapistndc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">affordable public education</a> that upholds the value of neurodiversity, highlighting contemporary autism research, trauma-informed practices, and methodologies built on presuming competence and upholding dignity and human rights.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">✦ Foster partnerships and professional growth for our <a href="https://therapistndc.org/neurodiversity-affirming-therapists/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">therapist members</a> aligned with the neurodiversity paradigm.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-19e5295 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="19e5295" data-element_type="section"><div class="elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default"><div class="elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-99a654e" data-id="99a654e" data-element_type="column"><div class="elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated"><div class="elementor-element elementor-element-18ee0a5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer" data-id="18ee0a5" data-element_type="widget" data-widget_type="spacer.default"><div class="elementor-widget-container"><div class="elementor-spacer"><div class="elementor-spacer-inner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-b4b6d9f elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="b4b6d9f" data-element_type="section"><div class="elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default"><div class="elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-8b45ff2" data-id="8b45ff2" data-element_type="column"><div class="elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated"><div class="elementor-element elementor-element-867eebb noselect elementor-widget__width-inherit elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor" data-id="867eebb" data-element_type="widget" data-widget_type="text-editor.default"><div class="elementor-widget-container"><p><span class="noselect" style="font-size: 14pt;">An Autistic-led organization, the Collective’s work is focused on aligning therapy and education practices within a neurodiversity-affirming paradigm rooted in the Neurodiversity Movement’s goal to protect the rights and welfare of autistic and other neurodivergent people. We champion self-determination and promote self-esteem. We honor personal agency, body autonomy, sensory system needs, social communication authenticity, and an autistic/neurodivergent person’s right to say “No”.</span></p><p><span class="noselect" style="font-size: 14pt;">Therapist Neurodiversity Collective<span style="font-size: 10pt;">®</span> is <a href="https://therapistndc.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">unapologetically ABA-free</a> and we <a href="https://therapistndc.org/category/social-skills-training/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">don’t train social skills</a>. Dehumanizing, <a href="https://therapistndc.org/positive-behavior-support-pbs-positive-behavioral-interventions-and-supports-pbis-or-positive-reinforcement/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">compliance-based practices</a> have been linked to poor mental health outcomes and </span><span class="noselect" style="font-size: 14pt;">increased suicidality in autistic adults. </span></p><p><span class="noselect" style="font-size: 14pt;"><a href="https://therapistndc.org/neurodiversity-affirming-therapists/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Therapists</a> who are aligned with Therapist Neurodiversity Collective<span style="font-size: 10pt;">®</span> are credentialed and licensed pro-neurodiversity-focused, trauma-informed providers, wholly allied with the Neurodiversity Movement as a Human Rights Movement. We believe that therapists and educators shouldn’t try to “normalize” autistic and other-neurodivergent people at the expense of their emotional, physical, and psychological well-being. </span></p><p><span class="noselect" style="font-size: 14pt;">We are activists centered on <a href="https://therapistndc.org/flipping-the-autism-narrative-free-ebook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">flipping the autism narrative</a>, impacting <a href="https://therapistndc.org/therapist-neurodiversity-collectives-ethics-values/">radical changes in therapy and education practices</a>, and <a href="https://therapistndc.org/advocacy/disability-rights-are-civil-rights/">championing autistic and other neurodivergent human rights.</a></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></section><section class="elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-cc1902d elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="cc1902d" 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I am autistic myself and my daughter although speaking has language differences which affect her profoundly... Anyway I am asking: what are the factors that lead ti flourishing of families of non speaking autistic children..I have 3 pperationalised questions as part of this.</p></div><div class="cff-comment" id="cff_892856779637758_1310099520146873" data-cff-comment-date=" 8 hours ago "><p >The problem with memes like this is they are the definition of confirmation bias because they do not include the source. I want to believe this. I’m actually pretty convinced it’s true based on the evidence I have seen. But claiming this in this format with no source to a study isn’t helping our cause.</p></div><p class="cff-comments cff-show-more-comments" ><a class="cff-show-more-comments-a" href="javascript:void(0);" ><svg width="24px" height="24px" role="img" aria-hidden="true" aria-label="ellipsis" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="0 150 320 200"><path d="M192 256c0 17.7-14.3 32-32 32s-32-14.3-32-32 14.3-32 32-32 32 14.3 32 32zm88-32c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32s14.3 32 32 32 32-14.3 32-32-14.3-32-32-32zm-240 0c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32s14.3 32 32 32 32-14.3 32-32-14.3-32-32-32z"></path></svg><span class="cff-screenreader">View more comments</span></a></p></div></div></div><div class="cff-item cff-status-post cff-box author-therapist-neurodiversity-collective cff-1849363188470496 cff-new" id="cff_1849363188470496_886076360315800" data-page-id="1849363188470496" data-cff-timestamp="1731793699" data-object-id="886076360315800" data-cff-from="1849363188470496" style="z-index: 11;"><div class="cff-author"><div class="cff-author-text"><div class="cff-page-name cff-author-date" > <a href="https://facebook.com/1849363188470496" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" > Therapist Neurodiversity Collective </a> <span class="cff-story"> </span></div><div class="cff-date " > 2 weeks ago</div></div><div class="cff-author-img " data-avatar="https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-1/307661610_418617503728357_2510003458962270204_n.png?stp=cp0_dst-png_s50x50&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=6738e8&_nc_ohc=dvXDpSGHjLUQ7kNvgGxgD__&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&edm=AKIiGfEEAAAA&_nc_gid=A6jT8ujfNZFjYbcYP9ON3Ya&oh=00_AYBLinnGKphPkVqu10BhmfqjVTWK5ajjFhWZVVirJ75ywA&oe=674D458B"> <a href="https://facebook.com/1849363188470496" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" > <img decoding="async" src="https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-1/307661610_418617503728357_2510003458962270204_n.png?stp=cp0_dst-png_s50x50&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=6738e8&_nc_ohc=dvXDpSGHjLUQ7kNvgGxgD__&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&edm=AKIiGfEEAAAA&_nc_gid=A6jT8ujfNZFjYbcYP9ON3Ya&oh=00_AYBLinnGKphPkVqu10BhmfqjVTWK5ajjFhWZVVirJ75ywA&oe=674D458B" class="cff-feed-image" alt="Therapist Neurodiversity Collective" width=40 height=40 onerror="this.style.display='none'"> </a></div></div><p class="cff-post-text"> <span class="cff-text" data-color="">Neurodiversity Lite vs. the Autistic Sense of Justice and Fairness: When is it time for an Activist to step down? <br /><br />I have just spent the last 90 minutes of my Saturday responding to a fake billing dispute on behalf of the Collective membership from a performative neurodiversity bully. The disputed amount was less than $30, but I spent the time to respond because, <br />1) their dispute was 100% dishonest, and <br />2) the person who disputed the billing agreed to the terms of the membership criteria and expected me to make her an exception even though she doesn't.<br /><br />For those followers who aren’t aware, I have never taken an income from memberships since the Collective’s inception. Running this Collective is a full time, unpaid job that I have done since 2018 in support of neurodivergent human rights in therapy and educational practices. <br /><br />I run the business side of things without pay, and without any help as well, and it’s overwhelming and exhausting at times. I make a lot of personal sacrifices to do so, especially not having financial security of any kind, the toll on my physical and mental health, and lost time with my loved ones. <br /><br />Today was one of those overwhelming and exhausting times. I am spent and burnt out. These are two reasons why many activists stop their work…<br /><br />Since 2022, the Collective has offered high-quality, truly neurodiversity paradigm-centered professional development courses to the general public. These courses cost significantly less than the majority of similar courses. The courses and the memberships are not money-making endeavors—most years, I break even, and some years, I put in the little money I have to keep the Collective going.<br /><br />Offering a formal membership to people who are completely committed to only providing services in neurodiversity paradigm-centered ways that uphold neurodivergent human rights—dignity, agency, and authenticity—is my way of supporting service providers because my activism is focused on supporting and uplifting services that protect the mental health and well-being of neurodivergent clients and students above everything else. <br />Above. Everything. Else.<br /><br />The Therapist Neurodiversity Collective's website clearly explains why its formal members don't engage in behavior training, social skills training, CBT and DBT, and all other forms of forced behavior and social compliance with arbitrary, subjective neurotypical expectations of thinking, processing, and being.<br /><br />So, I freely admit that Collective membership isn't for everyone, and the website is more than transparent about that. Yet, in these last few months, I have increasingly been attacked and abused through email and social media because I uphold the Collective's non-negotiable practice standards for membership applicants and don't make exceptions for anyone.<br /><br />And, I make no apologies that therapy approaches <br />• that train autistic masking and camouflaging (social skills training), <br />• that train desensitization to things that are traumatizing to autistic people, such as sensory processing differences, <br />• that have goals of forced compliance with neurotypical standards that don’t work for neurodivergent people, <br />• that gaslight autistic lived experiences in mental health counseling (e.g., CBT and DBT) are not permitted practices for the Collective’s formal members.<br /><br />People who apply for membership have to do the following things:<br />• Read and agree to membership criteria.<br />• Check a popup box to agree that they understand that if they do not meet the specified practice criteria, they will be denied membership and receive a refund of their dues minus 20% (which covers Stripes' fees for accepting and refunding a payment plus a minor penalty for wasting my time and unpaid labor).<br />• Type in their name on the application form before payment can be accepted, once again, affirming that they do not engage in any specified practices.<br /><br />But therapists who openly engage in some or all of those things (as in behavioral-based approaches or social skills training are listed on their website or social media) continue to apply, and then they become enraged and abusive when they are denied membership, including calling me a thief, and attempting to gaslight me into believing that I am in the wrong for upholding the principles of my own organization. <br /><br />It’s quite a false sense of entitlement when a therapist advertises to the world that they meet a certain standard (“neurodiversity-affirming” service provider) but in reality are so in name only, don’t you think? It’s the most blatantly harmful and dishonest form of performative neurodiversity that I can think of. - Julie, AuSLP </span> <span class="cff-expand">... <a href="#" ><span class="cff-more">See More</span><span class="cff-less">See Less</span></a></span></p><div class="cff-meta-wrap"><div class="cff-post-links"> <a class="cff-viewpost-facebook" href="https://www.facebook.com/1849363188470496_886076360315800" title="View on Facebook" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" > View on Facebook </a><div class="cff-share-container"> <span class="cff-dot" >·</span> <a class="cff-share-link" href="https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F1849363188470496_886076360315800" title="Share" > Share </a><div class="cff-share-tooltip"> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F1849363188470496_886076360315800" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" class="cff-facebook-icon"> <svg aria-hidden="true" focusable="false" 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I wonder if it would work to preempt issues by creating a non-refundable application fee that’s charged initially, followed by a membership fee upon approval. I switched to no-refund policy for my own business and it made a huge difference in clearing out the riffraff.</p></div><div class="cff-comment" id="cff_886076360315800_1251749699203037" data-cff-comment-date=" 2 weeks ago "><p >I see this defensiveness so frequently, especially when it comes to dbt. I think practitioners develop a trauma bond with the modality. It breaks my heart to see autistic practitioners pathologizing their own justice sensitivity to reconcile the disparity between behavioral approaches and being truly neurodiversity affirming. I’ve seen some truly Orwellian efforts there.</p></div><div class="cff-comment" id="cff_886076360315800_920468973394771" data-cff-comment-date=" 2 weeks ago "><p >Those people are always dishonest and manipulative. They’re trained to be that way. And they know their revenue stream is being threatened by your work and the work of all of the other activists who are working hard to shut them down. They can see that we are making a difference, and their nonsense is a desperate attempt to try to stop or slow down our progress. We know they won’t succeed and that we WILL succeed in shutting the entire industry down. As an autistic person who is also dedicated to this work, I want to thank you for your hard work and dedication, and all of the sacrifices you make for us.</p></div><p class="cff-comments cff-show-more-comments" ><a class="cff-show-more-comments-a" href="javascript:void(0);" ><svg width="24px" height="24px" role="img" aria-hidden="true" aria-label="ellipsis" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="0 150 320 200"><path d="M192 256c0 17.7-14.3 32-32 32s-32-14.3-32-32 14.3-32 32-32 32 14.3 32 32zm88-32c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32s14.3 32 32 32 32-14.3 32-32-14.3-32-32-32zm-240 0c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32s14.3 32 32 32 32-14.3 32-32-14.3-32-32-32z"></path></svg><span class="cff-screenreader">View more comments</span></a></p></div></div></div><div class="cff-item cff-link-item cff-box author-therapist-neurodiversity-collective cff-1849363188470496 cff-new" id="cff_1849363188470496_880360840887352" data-page-id="1849363188470496" data-cff-timestamp="1731060979" data-object-id="880360840887352" data-cff-from="1849363188470496" style="z-index: 10;"><div class="cff-author"><div class="cff-author-text"><div class="cff-page-name cff-author-date" > <a href="https://facebook.com/1849363188470496" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" > Therapist Neurodiversity Collective </a> <span class="cff-story"> </span></div><div class="cff-date " > 3 weeks ago</div></div><div class="cff-author-img " data-avatar="https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-1/307661610_418617503728357_2510003458962270204_n.png?stp=cp0_dst-png_s50x50&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=6738e8&_nc_ohc=dvXDpSGHjLUQ7kNvgGxgD__&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&edm=AKIiGfEEAAAA&_nc_gid=A6jT8ujfNZFjYbcYP9ON3Ya&oh=00_AYBLinnGKphPkVqu10BhmfqjVTWK5ajjFhWZVVirJ75ywA&oe=674D458B"> <a href="https://facebook.com/1849363188470496" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" > <img decoding="async" src="https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-1/307661610_418617503728357_2510003458962270204_n.png?stp=cp0_dst-png_s50x50&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=6738e8&_nc_ohc=dvXDpSGHjLUQ7kNvgGxgD__&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&edm=AKIiGfEEAAAA&_nc_gid=A6jT8ujfNZFjYbcYP9ON3Ya&oh=00_AYBLinnGKphPkVqu10BhmfqjVTWK5ajjFhWZVVirJ75ywA&oe=674D458B" class="cff-feed-image" alt="Therapist Neurodiversity Collective" width=40 height=40 onerror="this.style.display='none'"> </a></div></div><p class="cff-post-text"> <span class="cff-text" data-color="">Thank you, Kelly. 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And I’m starting to think about how compliance trauma can cause not just alexithymia, but also OSDD and DID. I’ve been reading Judith Herman’s work and also about structural dissociation. I’d love to connect with others who are also thinking about These things.</p></div><div class="cff-comment" id="cff_880360840887352_1989804174831989" data-cff-comment-date=" 3 weeks ago "><p >Tasha Raella, YES. I really think a lot of the vaunted interoception difficulties of autistics are actually the product of constant gaslighting “you can’t possibly be feeling/experiencing that,” “XYZ is what THING looks like, so your ABC can’t be what THING looks like for you,” and then being punished for pushing back, protesting, or even just being upset about it (the compliance bit).</p></div></div></div></div></div><span class="cff_resized_image_data" data-feedid="cff_18493631884704493631884704965meen0000" data-resized="[{"media_id":"1849363188470496_880360840887352","facebook_id":"1849363188470496_880360840887352","aspect_ratio":"1.00","sizes":"[400,250]"},{"media_id":"1849363188470496_850711463852290","facebook_id":"1849363188470496_850711463852290","aspect_ratio":"1.00","sizes":"[400,250]"},{"media_id":"1849363188470496_831220319134738","facebook_id":"1849363188470496_831220319134738","aspect_ratio":"1.00","sizes":"[400,250]"}]"></span><input type="hidden" class="cff-pag-url" 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