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Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a>, editors may use {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_template-protected" title="Template:Edit template-protected">edit template-protected</a>}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/doc" title="Template:Wikipedia policies and guidelines/doc">documentation</a></b> to add usage notes or <a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">categories</a>. <p>Any contributor may edit the template's <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/sandbox" title="Template:Wikipedia policies and guidelines/sandbox">sandbox</a></b>. Functionality of the template can be checked using <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/testcases" title="Template:Wikipedia policies and guidelines/testcases">test cases</a></b>. </p> <div style="padding:0.5em"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1127644699">.mw-parser-output #request_edit_inputbox .commentboxInput,.mw-parser-output #request_edit_inputbox br{display:none}</style> <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="commentbox" class="commentbox mw-inputbox-form" action="/w/index.php" method="get" id="request_edit_inputbox"><input type="hidden" value="edit" name="action"/><input type="hidden" value="Template:Request edit button/preload" name="preload"/><input type="hidden" value="Edit template-protected" name="preloadparams[]"/><div class="cdx-text-input"><input type="hidden" name="preloadtitle" class="mw-inputbox-input commentboxInput cdx-text-input__input" value="Edit request {{subst:#time:j F Y}}" placeholder="" size="50" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="new" name="section"/><input type="hidden" value="Template talk:Wikipedia policies and guidelines" name="title"/><br/><input type="submit" name="create" value="Request edit" class="cdx-button cdx-button--action-progressive cdx-button--weight-primary"/></form></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Emblem-important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/33px-Emblem-important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="33" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/50px-Emblem-important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/66px-Emblem-important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">See <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROPOSAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROPOSAL">WP:PROPOSAL</a></b> for Wikipedia's procedural policy on the creation of new guidelines and policies. See <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_contribute_to_Wikipedia_guidance" title="Wikipedia:How to contribute to Wikipedia guidance">how to contribute to Wikipedia guidance</a></b> for recommendations regarding the creation and updating of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">policy and guideline</a> pages.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FAQ_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAQ_link-20240215195300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAQ_link-20240215195300"></span>FAQ link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAQ_link-20240215195300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: FAQ link"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300-FAQ_link"></span>My addition of a link to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ" title="Wikipedia:FAQ">Wikipedia:FAQ</a>, in the footer of this template (next to a link to "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Principles" title="Wikipedia:Principles">Wikipedia:Principles</a>", which is also neither a policy or guideline), was reverted with an edit summary including "there is a long history (see talk page) of what get's included in this template and what doesn't". </p><p>Where was it decided not to include the FAQ - whose purpose to <i>explain</i> policies and guidelines - in this template? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300-FAQ_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300-FAQ_link"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300-FAQ_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240215195700-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300"></span>Hi, if you read through <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Archive_1" title="Template talk:Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Archive 1">Template talk:Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Archive 1</a> you'll see a lot of discussion and consensus building for what gets included and what doesn't. Not specifically referencing the FAQ (to the best of my knowledge), but just in general to the routine addition of one or two links every once in a while. Merely stated that the links in this template were carefully selected over time and generally any addition should be discussed first. Cheers,<span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gonzo_fan2007" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gonzo fan2007"><span style="font-size:small; color:teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007#top" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007"><small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)</small></a> @ </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240215195700-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240215195700-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240215195700-Pigsonthewing-20240215195300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_request_3_March_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_request_3_March_2024-20240303140900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_request_3_March_2024-20240303140900"></span>Edit request 3 March 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request_3_March_2024-20240303140900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Edit request 3 March 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ullasoff-20240303140900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b>Description of suggested change:</b> </p><p><b>Diff:</b> </p> <table class="diff" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td class="diff-marker" style="width: 2%; padding: 0.25em; font-weight: bold;font-size: 1.25em; text-align: end;">−</td><td class="diff-deletedline" style="border-color: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); vertical-align:top; width: 48%; border-style: solid; border-radius: 0.33em; padding: 0.33em 0.5em; color: inherit; font-size: 1em; font-family: monospace; white-space: pre-wrap; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; -webkit-border-end-width: 1px; -webkit-border-start-width: 4px; -moz-border-end-width: 1px; -moz-border-start-width: 4px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; direction: ltr;"><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">ORIGINAL_TEXT</del></div></td><td style="width: 2%; padding: 0.25em; font-weight: bold;font-size: 1.25em; text-align: end;">+</td><td class="diff-addedline" style="border-color: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); vertical-align:top; width: 48%; border-style: solid; border-radius: 0.33em; padding: 0.33em 0.5em; color: inherit; font-size: 1em; font-family: monospace; white-space: pre-wrap; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; -webkit-border-end-width: 1px; -webkit-border-start-width: 4px; -moz-border-end-width: 1px; -moz-border-start-width: 4px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; direction: ltr;"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">CHANGED_TEXT</ins></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ullasoff&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ullasoff (page does not exist)">Ullas p</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ullasoff" title="User talk:Ullasoff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Ullasoff-20240303140900-Edit_request_3_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ullasoff-20240303140900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ullasoff-20240303140900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240303160900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"></span>© 2022 by is licensed under Attribution 4.0 International. To view a copy of this license, visit <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/</a> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITXY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITXY">"change X to Y" format</a> and provide a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable source</a> if appropriate. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Jonesey95-20240303160900-Edit_request_3_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240303160900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240303160900-Edit_request_3_March_2024"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?-20240724224000"><span id="Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?-20240724224000"></span>Search parameter like our MOS template?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?-20240724224000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Search parameter like our MOS template?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20240724224000-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?"></span>As seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Manual_of_Style" title="Template:Manual of Style">Template:Manual of Style</a> we have a nice user friendly and convenient search box. Should we do the same here? <b><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&oldid=1236462469">Here is an example that mimics the MOS template</a></b> <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Moxy-20240724224000-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20240724224000-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20240724224000-Search_parameter_like_our_MOS_template?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300-Moxy-20240724224000"></span>I understand the benefit of the search bar for the MOS, because our MOS is massive and often you are trying to find one very specific sentence. I'm not sure I see the same need here, as this template already covers almost all the relevant policies and guidelines for most editors. And if you are looking for a very specific thing, you are likely already well-versed in how to perform a deeper search. These search bars already existing at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines</a>, which would be more of a natural starting place than an autocollapsed template (i.e. the search bars don't show up in most standards views). I <b>oppose</b> its addition as just not much use. If it does get implemented though, at the very least the formatting should improve as both search bars on top of each other don't look great and causes a lot of blank space.<span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;"><span style="font-size:small; color:teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007"><small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)</small></a> @ </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300-Moxy-20240724224000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300-Moxy-20240724224000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300-Moxy-20240724224000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20240724235800-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300"></span>Just trying to make accessibility easier for those of us with disabilities...... it's a long road. Went ahead and made <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Editor_search_boxes" title="Template:Editor search boxes">Editor search boxes</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for all of us.<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Moxy-20240724235800-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20240724235800-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20240724235800-Gonzo_fan2007-20240724230300"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240726152500-Moxy-20240724235800"></span>Moxy</a> I'm not sure I follow the accessibility part. If I am missing something in that vain, happy to reconsider.<span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;"><span style="font-size:small; color:teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonzo_fan2007" title="User talk:Gonzo fan2007"><small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)</small></a> @ </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240726152500-Moxy-20240724235800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240726152500-Moxy-20240724235800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonzo_fan2007-20240726152500-Moxy-20240724235800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_request_19_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_request_19_November_2024-20241119062000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_request_19_November_2024-20241119062000"></span>Edit request 19 November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request_19_November_2024-20241119062000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Edit request 19 November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241119062000-Edit_request_19_November_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b>Description of suggested change:</b> I think that we could stand to add the UCOC to this template. I could not figure out how to make the template parameters show, so this was the best solution. <a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241119062000-Edit_request_19_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241119062000-Edit_request_19_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241119062000-Edit_request_19_November_2024"></span> </p> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paine_Ellsworth-20241119074600-Edit_request_19_November_2024"></span>Proposal</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <pre>Original section 7: <code> | 7_list1 = * [[:wmf:Terms of Use|Terms of Use]] * [[:wmf:Policies|List of policies]] * [[:wmf:Friendly space policy|Friendly space policy]] * [[:wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy|Licensing and copyright]] * [[:wmf:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]] </code> New section 7: <code> | 7_list1 = * [[:wmf:Policy:Universal Code of Conduct|Universal Code of Conduct]] * [[:wmf:Terms of Use|Terms of Use]] * [[:wmf:Policies|List of policies]] * [[:wmf:Friendly space policy|Friendly space policy]] * [[:wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy|Licensing and copyright]] * [[:wmf:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]] </code> </pre> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Completed</b></span>. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth" title="User:Paine Ellsworth"><span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. 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