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Sections older than <b>21 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span>.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Page_Patrol_newsletter_October_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Page_Patrol_newsletter_October_2022"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Page_Patrol_newsletter_October_2022"></span>New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Page_Patrol_newsletter_October_2022"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hello Joe Roe, </p> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/120px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="114" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/180px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/240px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="486"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Coordination/2022_WMF_letter" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination/2022 WMF letter">open letter</a> finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-09-30/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2022-09-30/In focus">current issue of <i>The Signpost</i></a>. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section. </p><p><b>Awards</b>: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MPGuy2824">MPGuy2824</a></span>), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_B123">John B123</a></span> for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Awards page</a>. Check out the new <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards#NPP_Hall_of_Fame" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Hall of Fame</a> also. </p><p><b>Software news</b>: <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae">Novem Linguae</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MPGuy2824">MPGuy2824</a></span> have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Suggested_improvements/Phab_tickets#Closed_tickets" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements/Phab tickets">here</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Top_new_article_reviewers" title="Wikipedia:Database reports/Top new article reviewers">reviewer report</a> has also been improved. </p> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg/450px-2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg" decoding="async" width="450" height="235" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg/675px-2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg/900px-2022-10-16_NPP_backlog_chart.jpg 2x" data-file-width="963" data-file-height="502"/></a><figcaption>NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022</figcaption></figure> <p><b>Suggestions</b>: </p> <ul><li>There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".</li> <li>Reminder: <i>an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more.</i> (from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Care" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">NPP tutorial</a>)</li> <li>Reviewers should focus their effort where it can do the most good, reviewing articles. Other clean-up tasks that don't require advanced permissions can be left to other editors that routinely improve articles in these ways (creating Talk Pages, specifying projects and ratings, adding categories, etc.) Let's rely on others when it makes the most sense. On the other hand, if you enjoy doing these tasks while reviewing and it keeps you engaged with NPP (or are guiding a newcomer), then by all means continue.</li> <li>This <a href="/wiki/User:Lourdes/PageCuration" title="User:Lourdes/PageCuration">user script</a> puts a link to the feed in your top toolbar.</li></ul> <p><b>Backlog</b>:</p><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif/80px-Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif" decoding="async" width="80" height="74" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif/120px-Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif/160px-Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif 2x" data-file-width="371" data-file-height="345"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/October_2022" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/October 2022">October backlog drive</a> to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate! </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239549316">.mw-parser-output .refbegin{margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-hanging-indents>ul{margin-left:0}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-hanging-indents>ul>li{margin-left:0;padding-left:3.2em;text-indent:-3.2em}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-hanging-indents ul,.mw-parser-output .refbegin-hanging-indents ul li{list-style:none}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .refbegin-hanging-indents>ul>li{padding-left:1.6em;text-indent:-1.6em}}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-columns ul{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .refbegin-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .refbegin{font-size:90%}}</style><div class="refbegin" style=""> <dl><dt>Reminders</dt></dl> <ul><li>Newsletter feedback - please take this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Newsletter" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Newsletter">short poll</a> about the newsletter.</li> <li>If you're interested in instant messaging and chat rooms, please join us on the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://discordapp.com/invite/heF3xPu">New Page Patrol Discord</a>, where you can ask for help and live chat with other patrollers.</li> <li>Please add <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers">the project discussion page</a> to your watchlist.</li> <li>If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be a reviewer, please ask any admin to remove you from the group. If you want the tools back again, just ask at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions" title="Wikipedia:Requests for permissions">PERM</a>.</li> <li>To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter_list" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter list">here</a>.</li></ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-TFA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TFA"></span>TFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TFA"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: TFA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_January_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_January_2023"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_January_2023"></span>New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_January_2023"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"> <table style="float: right; border: 1px solid #BBB; background: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr><td></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Hello Joe Roe, </p> <table style="float: right;"> </table> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg/400px-Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg" decoding="async" width="400" height="232" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg/600px-Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg/800px-Npp_backlog_2022-Dec.jpg 2x" data-file-width="861" data-file-height="500"/></a><figcaption>New Page Review queue December 2022</figcaption></figure> <dl><dt>Backlog</dt></dl> <p>The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WaddlesJP13">WaddlesJP13</a></span> who led with 2084 points. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/October_2022" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/October 2022">this page</a> for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. </p> <dl><dt>2022 Awards</dt></dl> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/74px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png" decoding="async" width="74" height="70" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/111px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/148px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="486"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Onel5969">Onel5969</a></span> won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a></span> led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Awards page</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards#NPP_Hall_of_Fame" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Hall of Fame</a>. Congratulations everyone! </p><p><b>Minimum deletion time</b>: The previous <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">WP:NPP</a> guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLAR">WP:BLAR</a>). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">feed</a> are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.) </p><p><b>New draftify script</b>: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly <a href="/wiki/Help:Unreviewed_new_page" title="Help:Unreviewed new page">explanation page</a>. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your <a href="/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">common.js</a> or vector.js file from <code>User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js</code> to <code>User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js</code><b></b> </p><p><b>Redirects</b>: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Redirects" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirects">this guide</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Redirect_checklist" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">this checklist</a>, and spend some time at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFD">WP:RFD</a>. </p><p><b>Discussions with the WMF</b> The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Coordination/2022_WMF_letter" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination/2022 WMF letter">PageTriage open letter</a> signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/repo:mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage%2Bis:merged%2BNOT%2Bauthor:Libraryupgrader%2BNOT%2Bauthor:L10n-bot%2Bbefore:2022-12-31" class="extiw" title="gerrit:q/repo:mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage+is:merged+NOT+author:Libraryupgrader+NOT+author:L10n-bot+before:2022-12-31">dozens of patches</a> in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae">Novem Linguae</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MPGuy2824">MPGuy2824</a></span> have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Growth_Team_features#Meeting_details" title="Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features">had a video conference</a> with the NPP coordinators to discuss <a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae/Drafts/New_landing_page_proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Novem Linguae/Drafts/New landing page proposal">revamping the landing pages</a> that new users see. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239549316"><div class="refbegin" style=""> <dl><dt>Reminders</dt></dl> <ul><li>Newsletter feedback - please take this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Newsletter" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Newsletter">short poll</a> about the newsletter.</li> <li>There is live chat with patrollers on the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://discordapp.com/invite/heF3xPu">New Page Patrol Discord</a>.</li> <li>Please add <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers">the project discussion page</a> to your watchlist.</li> <li>If you no longer wish to be a reviewer, please ask any admin to remove you from the group. If you want the tools back again, just ask at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions" title="Wikipedia:Requests for permissions">PERM</a>.</li> <li>To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter_list" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter list">here</a>.</li></ul> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_June_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_June_2023"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_June_2023"></span>New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_June_2023"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"> <table style="float: right; border: 1px solid #BBB; background: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr><td></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Hello Joe Roe, </p> <table style="float: right;"> </table> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/81/NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg/400px-NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg.png" decoding="async" width="400" height="249" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/81/NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg/600px-NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/81/NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg/800px-NPP_April-June_2023_backlog.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="650" data-file-height="404"/></a><figcaption>New Page Review queue April to June 2023</figcaption></figure> <p><b>Backlog</b> </p><p><b>Redirect drive</b>: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with <b>23851</b> reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to <b>0</b> (momentarily). Congratulations to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh">Hey man im josh</a></span> who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Meena">Meena</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greyzxq">Greyzxq</a></span> with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/May_2023" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2023">this page</a> for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day. </p><p><b>Redirect autopatrol</b>: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Redirect_autopatrol_list#Requests" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect autopatrol list">here</a>. </p><p><b>WMF work on PageTriage</b>: The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Moderator_Tools" class="extiw" title="mw:Moderator Tools">WMF Moderator Tools team</a>, consisting of <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samwalton9_(WMF)">Sam</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JSherman_(WMF)">Jason</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SCardenas_(WMF)">Susana</a></span>, and also some patches from <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_(WMF)">Jon</a></span>, has been hard at work <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/2023_Moderator_Tools_project" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/2023 Moderator Tools project">updating PageTriage</a>. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in <a href="/wiki/Beta_test" class="mw-redirect" title="Beta test">beta test</a> where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">Special:NewPagesFeed</a>, to help find bugs. We will post more details at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:NPPR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:NPPR">WT:NPPR</a> when we are ready for beta testers. </p><p><b>Articles for Creation (AFC)</b>: All new page reviewers are now <b>automatically approved</b> for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AFCP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:AFCP">WT:AFCP</a> like was required previously). To install the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFCH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFCH">AFC helper script</a>, visit <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">Special:NewPagesFeed</a>, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script. </p><p>You can review the AFC workflow at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFCR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFCR">WP:AFCR</a>. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT">draftspace is optional</a>, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest. </p><p><b>Pro tip</b>: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNG">SNG</a>? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARTIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARTIST">WP:ARTIST</a> 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums). </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239549316"><div class="refbegin" style=""> <p><b>Reminders</b> </p> <ul><li>Newsletter feedback - please take this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Newsletter" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Newsletter">short poll</a> about the newsletter.</li> <li>There is live chat with patrollers on the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://discordapp.com/invite/heF3xPu">New Page Patrol Discord</a> and <span style="font-family: monospace,Courier; white-space: pre-wrap !important; word-wrap: break-word; max-width: 1200px; overflow: auto;">#wikimedia-npp</span> <sup class="plainlinks"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.libera.chat/?channel=#wikimedia-npp"><span style="color:green;">connect</span></a></sup> on IRC.</li> <li>Please add <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers">the project discussion page</a> to your watchlist.</li> <li>To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter_list" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter list">here</a>.</li></ul> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome_to_the_drive!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_to_the_drive!"><span id="Welcome_to_the_drive.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_to_the_drive!"></span>Welcome to the drive!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_to_the_drive!"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Welcome to the drive!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Welcome, welcome, welcome Joe Roe! I'm glad that you are joining the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/February_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/February 2024"> drive</a>! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. </p> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;margin:1em;"><span class="plainlinks clickbutton"><a href="/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/All_articles_lacking_sources" title="Special:RandomInCategory/All articles lacking sources"><span class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-progressive">Fix a random page lacking sources</span></a></span></div><p><a href="/wiki/User:CactiStaccingCrane" title="User:CactiStaccingCrane">CactiStaccingCrane</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CactiStaccingCrane" title="User talk:CactiStaccingCrane">talk</a>)15:38, 2 February 2024 <a href="/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time" title="Coordinated Universal Time">UTC</a> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:85%;">[<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=purge">refresh</a>]</span><span style="font-size:85%;">via JWB and <a href="/wiki/User:Geardona" title="User:Geardona">Geardona</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geardona" title="User talk:Geardona">talk to me?</a>)</span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_Yorkshire_Newsletter_-_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Yorkshire_Newsletter_-_November_2024"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Yorkshire_Newsletter_-_November_2024"></span>WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Yorkshire_Newsletter_-_November_2024"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table class="navbox collapsible collapsed" style="text-align: left; border: 2px; margin-top: 0.2em;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="background:#ccf; border:2px #007fff solid; border-radius:20px; text-align:center;"><b>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire">Yorkshire WikiProject</a> Newsletter</b> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="border:solid 1px gray;"> <table style="width:100%; border:1px gray solid; background:#ccf;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align:middle; width:55%; border:0; background:#ccf; padding:1em;"> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg/100px-White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg/150px-White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg/200px-White_Rose_Badge_of_York.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><big><b>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire">WikiProject Yorkshire</a> Newsletter</b></big><br/> Issue 199 – November 2024 <br/> </p> </td> <td style="vertical-align:middle; text-align:right; width:45%; border:0; background:#ccf; padding:1em;"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Fairytale_left.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Fairytale_left.png/30px-Fairytale_left.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Fairytale_left.png/45px-Fairytale_left.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Fairytale_left.png/60px-Fairytale_left.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Newsletter/October_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Newsletter/October 2024">October issue</a> </p> <br/><div style="text-align:center;"><small>Got any suggestions?<br/> — <i>Add them <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:YORKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:YORKS"><span style="color:#000;">here</span></a></i></small></div><br/> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top; border:2px #007fff solid; padding:1em; width:45%; background:#ccf;"> <dl><dt>Project News</dt></dl> <ul><li>Welcome to the one hundred and ninty ninth <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire">WikiProject Yorkshire</a> monthly newsletter.</li></ul> <ul><li>Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:YORKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:YORKS">WikiProject Yorkshire</a> has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 19,876 last month to 19,969 on 11 November 2024). In the area of GAs <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:YORKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:YORKS">WikiProject Yorkshire</a> at 220 is ahead of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GM">WikiProject Greater Manchester</a> who have 91. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:YORKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:YORKS">WikiProject Yorkshire</a> also has the lead in FAs at 95 while <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GM">WikiProject Greater Manchester</a> has 65 out of a total number of 5,138 articles.</li></ul> <p><br/> <span title="Featured article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span>Currently we have seventy eight Yorkshire featured articles: </p><p><a href="/wiki/George_Calvert,_1st_Baron_Baltimore" title="George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore">George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore</a> • <a href="/wiki/York_City_F.C." title="York City F.C.">York City F.C.</a> • <a href="/wiki/Joseph_Priestley" title="Joseph Priestley">Joseph Priestley</a> • <a href="/wiki/Stocksbridge_Park_Steels_F.C." title="Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C.">Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C.</a> • <a href="/wiki/Valley_Parade" title="Valley Parade">Valley Parade</a> • <a href="/wiki/William_Wilberforce" title="William Wilberforce">William Wilberforce</a> • <a href="/wiki/History_of_Bradford_City_A.F.C." title="History of Bradford City A.F.C.">History of Bradford City A.F.C.</a> • <a href="/wiki/Last_of_the_Summer_Wine" title="Last of the Summer Wine">Last of the Summer Wine</a> • <a href="/wiki/Ealdred_(archbishop_of_York)" title="Ealdred (archbishop of York)">Ealdred (archbishop of York)</a> • <a href="/wiki/Paulinus_of_York" title="Paulinus of York">Paulinus of York</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wilfrid" title="Wilfrid">Wilfrid</a> • <a href="/wiki/HMS_Endeavour" title="HMS Endeavour">HMS Endeavour</a> • <a href="/wiki/Cosmo_Gordon_Lang" title="Cosmo Gordon Lang">Cosmo Gordon Lang</a> • <a href="/wiki/Thomas_of_Bayeux" title="Thomas of Bayeux">Thomas of Bayeux</a> • <a href="/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies" title="Cottingley Fairies">Cottingley Fairies</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wilfred_Rhodes" title="Wilfred Rhodes">Wilfred Rhodes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Guy_Fawkes" title="Guy Fawkes">Guy Fawkes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Yorkshire_captaincy_affair_of_1927" title="Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927">Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927</a> • <a href="/wiki/Roy_Kilner" title="Roy Kilner">Roy Kilner</a> • <a href="/wiki/George_Macaulay" title="George Macaulay">George Macaulay</a> • <a href="/wiki/Frederick_Delius" title="Frederick Delius">Frederick Delius</a> • <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Towton" title="Battle of Towton">Battle of Towton</a> • <a href="/wiki/Halifax_Gibbet" title="Halifax Gibbet">Halifax Gibbet</a> • <a href="/wiki/Gerard_(archbishop_of_York)" title="Gerard (archbishop of York)">Gerard (archbishop of York)</a> • <a href="/wiki/George_Hirst" title="George Hirst">George Hirst</a> • <a href="/wiki/Geoffrey_(archbishop_of_York)" title="Geoffrey (archbishop of York)">Geoffrey (archbishop of York)</a> • <a href="/wiki/Len_Hutton" title="Len Hutton">Len Hutton</a> • <a href="/wiki/Hedley_Verity" title="Hedley Verity">Hedley Verity</a> • <a href="/wiki/Abe_Waddington" title="Abe Waddington">Abe Waddington</a> • <a href="/wiki/%C3%86thelwold_%C3%A6theling" title="Æthelwold ætheling">Æthelwold ætheling</a> • <a href="/wiki/Preparing_for_a_Fancy_Dress_Ball" title="Preparing for a Fancy Dress Ball">Preparing for a Fancy Dress Ball</a> • <a href="/wiki/The_Combat:_Woman_Pleading_for_the_Vanquished" title="The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished">The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished</a> • <a href="/wiki/The_Wrestlers_(Etty)" title="The Wrestlers (Etty)">The Wrestlers (Etty)</a> • <a href="/wiki/Bootham_Crescent" title="Bootham Crescent">Bootham Crescent</a> • <a href="/wiki/History_of_York_City_F.C._(1922%E2%80%931980)" title="History of York City F.C. (1922–1980)">History of York City F.C. (1922–1980)</a> • <a href="/wiki/William_Etty" title="William Etty">William Etty</a> • <a href="/wiki/History_of_York_City_F.C._(1980%E2%80%93present)" title="History of York City F.C. (1980–present)">History of York City F.C. (1980–present)</a> • <a href="/wiki/William_Sterndale_Bennett" title="William Sterndale Bennett">William Sterndale Bennett</a> • <a href="/wiki/Candaules,_King_of_Lydia,_Shews_his_Wife_by_Stealth_to_Gyges,_One_of_his_Ministers,_as_She_Goes_to_Bed" title="Candaules, King of Lydia, Shews his Wife by Stealth to Gyges, One of his Ministers, as She Goes to Bed">Candaules, King of Lydia, Shews his Wife by Stealth to Gyges, One of his Ministers, as She Goes to Bed</a> • <a href="/wiki/The_World_Before_the_Flood" title="The World Before the Flood">The World Before the Flood</a> • <a href="/wiki/Musidora:_The_Bather_%27At_the_Doubtful_Breeze_Alarmed%27" title="Musidora: The Bather 'At the Doubtful Breeze Alarmed'">Musidora: The Bather 'At the Doubtful Breeze Alarmed'</a> • <a href="/wiki/North_Eastern_Railway_War_Memorial" title="North Eastern Railway War Memorial">North Eastern Railway War Memorial</a> • <a href="/wiki/York_City_War_Memorial" title="York City War Memorial">York City War Memorial</a> • <a href="/wiki/Northern_England" title="Northern England">Northern England</a> • <a href="/wiki/Albert_Pierrepoint" title="Albert Pierrepoint">Albert Pierrepoint</a> • <a href="/wiki/RSPB_Dearne_Valley_Old_Moor" title="RSPB Dearne Valley Old Moor">RSPB Dearne Valley Old Moor</a> • <a href="/wiki/Keldholme_Priory_election_dispute" title="Keldholme Priory election dispute">Keldholme Priory election dispute</a> • <a href="/wiki/2018_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2018 World Snooker Championship">2018 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2019_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2019 World Snooker Championship">2019 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/Capture_of_Wakefield" title="Capture of Wakefield">Capture of Wakefield</a> • <a href="/wiki/2017_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2017 World Snooker Championship">2017 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2017_EFL_Championship_play-off_Final" class="mw-redirect" title="2017 EFL Championship play-off Final">2017 EFL Championship play-off Final</a> • <a href="/wiki/1985_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1985 World Snooker Championship">1985 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/Cardiff_City_F.C._2%E2%80%931_Leeds_United_F.C._(2002)" title="Cardiff City F.C. 2–1 Leeds United F.C. (2002)">Cardiff City F.C. 2–1 Leeds United F.C. (2002)</a> • <a href="/wiki/1986_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1986 World Snooker Championship">1986 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1988_Football_League_Second_Division_play-off_Final" class="mw-redirect" title="1988 Football League Second Division play-off Final">1988 Football League Second Division play-off Final</a> • <a href="/wiki/2020_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2020 World Snooker Championship">2020 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1984_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1984 World Snooker Championship">1984 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1925_FA_Cup_Final" class="mw-redirect" title="1925 FA Cup Final">1925 FA Cup Final</a> • <a href="/wiki/2006_Football_League_Championship_play-off_Final" class="mw-redirect" title="2006 Football League Championship play-off Final">2006 Football League Championship play-off Final</a> • <a href="/wiki/Acamptonectes" title="Acamptonectes">Acamptonectes</a> • <a href="/wiki/1997_Football_League_First_Division_play-off_Final" class="mw-redirect" title="1997 Football League First Division play-off Final">1997 Football League First Division play-off Final</a> • <a href="/wiki/1987_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1987 World Snooker Championship">1987 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1989_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1989 World Snooker Championship">1989 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2014_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2014 World Snooker Championship">2014 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1983_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1983 World Snooker Championship">1983 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1988_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1988 World Snooker Championship">1988 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2015_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2015 World Snooker Championship">2015 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2002_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2002 World Snooker Championship">2002 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2021_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2021 World Snooker Championship">2021 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1982_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1982 World Snooker Championship">1982 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2016_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2016 World Snooker Championship">2016 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/2022_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2022 World Snooker Championship">2022 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1981_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1981 World Snooker Championship">1981 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1980_World_Snooker_Championship" title="1980 World Snooker Championship">1980 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/Ian_Carmichael" title="Ian Carmichael">Ian Carmichael</a> •<a href="/wiki/2023_World_Snooker_Championship" title="2023 World Snooker Championship">2023 World Snooker Championship</a> • <a href="/wiki/1858_Bradford_sweets_poisoning" title="1858 Bradford sweets poisoning">1858 Bradford sweets poisoning</a> </p><p><span title="Featured article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span> There are also seventeen featured lists: </p><p><a href="/wiki/York_City_F.C._Clubman_of_the_Year" title="York City F.C. Clubman of the Year">York City F.C. Clubman of the Year</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._managers" title="List of York City F.C. managers">List of York City F.C. managers</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._players" title="List of York City F.C. players">List of York City F.C. players</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._seasons" title="List of York City F.C. seasons">List of York City F.C. seasons</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_Bradford_City_A.F.C._seasons" title="List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons">List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._records_and_statistics" title="List of York City F.C. records and statistics">List of York City F.C. records and statistics</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_Leeds_United_F.C._seasons" title="List of Leeds United F.C. seasons">List of Leeds United F.C. seasons</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_Scarborough_F.C._seasons" title="List of Scarborough F.C. seasons">List of Scarborough F.C. seasons</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Arctic_Monkeys" title="List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys">List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_Sites_of_Special_Scientific_Interest_in_Cleveland" title="List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland">List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_Hull_City_A.F.C._seasons" title="List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons">List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_churches_preserved_by_the_Churches_Conservation_Trust_in_Northern_England" title="List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England">List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England</a> • <a href="/wiki/Sheffield_United_F.C._league_record_by_opponent" title="Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent">Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent</a> • <a href="/wiki/York_City_F.C._league_record_by_opponent" title="York City F.C. league record by opponent">York City F.C. league record by opponent</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._players_(25%E2%80%9399_appearances)" title="List of York City F.C. players (25–99 appearances)">List of York City F.C. players (25–99 appearances)</a> • <a href="/wiki/List_of_York_City_F.C._players_(1%E2%80%9324_appearances)" title="List of York City F.C. players (1–24 appearances)">List of York City F.C. players (1–24 appearances)</a> • <a href="/wiki/Bootham_Crescent" title="Bootham Crescent">Bootham Crescent</a> • <a href="/wiki/Kate_Rusby_discography" title="Kate Rusby discography">Kate Rusby discography</a> </p><p><b>Thank you and well done</b> to all those who contributed. </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Article Activity</dt></dl> <p><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Good article reassessment"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg/14px-GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg/21px-GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg/28px-GA_Candidate_Neutral_vote%28ChaosNil%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="260" data-file-height="300"/></span></span> <a href="/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull" title="Kingston upon Hull">Kingston upon Hull</a> GA reassesment started on <b>1 October</b><br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Member News</dt></dl> <p>There are 101 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the October newsletter. </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Knowledgework69" title="User:Knowledgework69">Knowledgework69</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knowledgework69" title="User talk:Knowledgework69">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Knowledgework69" title="Special:Contributions/Knowledgework69">contribs</a>)</li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dt><b>Assessment</b><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Assessment">Assess and review</a></dt></dl> <div style="float: center; margin-left: 1em; margin-bottom: 0.5em;"> <table class="ratingstable wikitable plainlinks" style="text-align: right;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="7" class="ratingstabletitle">Yorkshire articles by quality and importance </th></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: bottom"><b>Quality</b> </th> <th colspan="6"><b>Importance</b> </th></tr> <tr> <th class="import-top" style="text-align:center; color:inherit; background: #ff97ff;"><a href="/wiki/Category:Top-importance_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Top-importance Yorkshire articles">Top</a> </th> <th class="import-high" style="text-align:center; color:inherit; background: #ffacff;"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:High-importance Yorkshire articles">High</a> </th> <th class="import-mid" style="text-align:center; color:inherit; background: #ffc1ff;"><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Yorkshire articles">Mid</a> </th> <th class="import-low" style="text-align:center; color:inherit; background: #ffd6ff;"><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Low-importance Yorkshire articles">Low</a> </th> <th class="assess-na" style="color:inherit; background: #f5f5f5; text-align: center;"><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Yorkshire articles">NA</a> </th> <th style="text-align: center;"><b>Total</b> </th></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-fa" style="color:inherit; background: #9cbdff; text-align: center;"><span title="Featured article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:FA-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:FA-Class Yorkshire articles">FA</a></b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FA-Class&importance=Top-Class">2</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FA-Class&importance=High-Class">1</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FA-Class&importance=Mid-Class">15</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FA-Class&importance=Low-Class">60</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FA-Class">78</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-fl" style="color:inherit; background: #9cbdff; text-align: center;"><span title="Featured list"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured list"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:FL-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:FL-Class Yorkshire articles">FL</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FL-Class&importance=Mid-Class">1</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FL-Class&importance=Low-Class">16</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=FL-Class">17</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-ga" style="color:inherit; background: #66ff66; text-align: center;"><span title="Good article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Good article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:GA-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:GA-Class Yorkshire articles">GA</a></b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=GA-Class&importance=Top-Class">2</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=GA-Class&importance=High-Class">7</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=GA-Class&importance=Mid-Class">36</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=GA-Class&importance=Low-Class">175</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=GA-Class">220</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-b" style="color:inherit; background: #b2ff66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:B-Class Yorkshire articles">B</a></b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=B-Class&importance=Top-Class">9</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=B-Class&importance=High-Class">66</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=B-Class&importance=Mid-Class">137</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=B-Class&importance=Low-Class">360</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=B-Class">572</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-c" style="color:inherit; background: #ffff66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:C-Class Yorkshire articles">C</a></b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=C-Class&importance=Top-Class">5</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=C-Class&importance=High-Class">144</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=C-Class&importance=Mid-Class">294</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=C-Class&importance=Low-Class">1,500</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=C-Class">1,943</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-start" style="color:inherit; background: #ffaa66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Start-Class Yorkshire articles">Start</a></b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Start-Class&importance=Top-Class">1</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Start-Class&importance=High-Class">242</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Start-Class&importance=Mid-Class">1,262</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Start-Class&importance=Low-Class">8,702</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Start-Class">10,207</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-stub" style="color:inherit; background: #ffa4a4; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Stub-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Stub-Class Yorkshire articles">Stub</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Stub-Class&importance=High-Class">21</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Stub-Class&importance=Mid-Class">352</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Stub-Class&importance=Low-Class">5,660</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Stub-Class&importance=NA-Class">3</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Stub-Class">6,036</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-list" style="color:inherit; background: #c7b1ff; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:List-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:List-Class Yorkshire articles">List</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=List-Class&importance=High-Class">4</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=List-Class&importance=Mid-Class">12</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=List-Class&importance=Low-Class">950</a> </td> <td> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=List-Class">966</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-category" style="color:inherit; background: #ffdb58; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Category-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Category-Class Yorkshire articles">Category</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Category-Class&importance=NA-Class">3,887</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Category-Class">3,887</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-disambig" style="color:inherit; background: #00fa9a; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Disambig-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Disambig-Class Yorkshire articles">Disambig</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Disambig-Class&importance=NA-Class">21</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Disambig-Class">21</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-File" style="color:inherit; background: #ddccff; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:File-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:File-Class Yorkshire articles">File</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=File-Class&importance=NA-Class">22</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=File-Class">22</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-portal" style="color:inherit; background: #ddb1bc; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Portal-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Portal-Class Yorkshire articles">Portal</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Portal-Class&importance=NA-Class">95</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Portal-Class">95</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-project" style="color:inherit; background: #c0c090; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Yorkshire articles">Project</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Project-Class&importance=NA-Class">226</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Project-Class">226</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-redirect" style="color:inherit; background: #c0c0c0; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Redirect-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Redirect-Class Yorkshire articles">Redirect</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Redirect-Class&importance=Mid-Class">2</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Redirect-Class&importance=Low-Class">195</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Redirect-Class&importance=NA-Class">1,355</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Redirect-Class">1,552</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-template" style="color:inherit; background: #fbceb1; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:Template-Class Yorkshire articles">Template</a></b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Template-Class&importance=NA-Class">619</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Template-Class">619</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-na" style="color:inherit; background: #f5f5f5; text-align: center;"><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_Yorkshire_articles" title="Category:NA-Class Yorkshire articles">NA</a> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=NA-Class&importance=NA-Class">6</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=NA-Class">6</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;"><b>Other</b> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=NotA-Class&importance=NA-Class">10</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=NotA-Class">10</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center"><b>Assessed</b> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class&importance=Top-Class">19</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class&importance=High-Class">485</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class&importance=Mid-Class">2,111</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class&importance=Low-Class">17,618</a> </td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class&importance=NA-Class">6,244</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?quality=Assessed-Class">26,477</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;"><b>Total</b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?importance=Top-Class">19</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?importance=High-Class">485</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?importance=Mid-Class">2,111</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?importance=Low-Class">17,618</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles?importance=NA-Class">6,244</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Yorkshire/articles">26,477</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="2"><b>WikiWork factors</b> (<a href="/wiki/User:WP_1.0_bot/WikiWork/faq" title="User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork/faq"><span style="color:blue">?</span></a>) </td> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="3">ω = <b> <span data-sort-value="7004971610000000000♠">97,161</span></b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="3">Ω = <b> 5.10</b> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </div> <table border="0" cellpadding="5" style="margin:auto; background:none;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center">As of 11 November 2024, we have assessed <big><b>100%</b></big> of all articles with a project banner. <table cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid black; width:50%; height:15x; margin:auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width:100%; background:#00a550;"> </td> <td style="width:0; background:#f00;"> </td></tr></tbody></table><small>(Some new and additional article talk pages may still require a banner however)</small> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td> <td style="vertical-align:top; border:2px #007fff solid; padding:1em; width:45%; background:#ccf;"> <dl><dt>Aims</dt></dl> <p>After discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Yorkshire" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire</a> in April 2008. </p><p><b>Specific aims</b> for the project are:- </p> <ul><li>To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See below)</li> <li>To recruit more active editors (See Member News)</li> <li>To bring our top level article <a href="/wiki/Yorkshire" title="Yorkshire">Yorkshire</a> up to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_articles" title="Wikipedia:Featured articles">Featured article</a> status</li> <li>To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">Good article</a> status</li> <li>To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)</li> <li>To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members</li></ul> <p>and apropos of the above a <b>2010 New Year</b> article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised. </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dt><b>Priority Articles</b></dt></dl> <p>The <b>top priority articles</b> that have been identified to date are as follows - </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Bradford" title="Bradford">Bradford</a> • <a href="/wiki/Doncaster" title="Doncaster">Doncaster</a> • <a href="/wiki/East_Riding_of_Yorkshire" title="East Riding of Yorkshire">East Riding of Yorkshire</a> • <a href="/wiki/Henry_Moore" title="Henry Moore">Henry Moore</a> • <a href="/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull" title="Kingston upon Hull">Kingston upon Hull</a> • <a href="/wiki/Leeds" title="Leeds">Leeds</a> • <a href="/wiki/Northern_England" title="Northern England">Northern England</a> • <a href="/wiki/North_Yorkshire" title="North Yorkshire">North Yorkshire</a> • <a href="/wiki/Ripon" title="Ripon">Ripon</a> • <a href="/wiki/Sheffield" title="Sheffield">Sheffield</a> • <a href="/wiki/South_Yorkshire" title="South Yorkshire">South Yorkshire</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wakefield" title="Wakefield">Wakefield</a> • <a href="/wiki/West_Yorkshire" title="West Yorkshire">West Yorkshire</a> • <a href="/wiki/William_Wilberforce" title="William Wilberforce">William Wilberforce</a> • <a href="/wiki/York" title="York">York</a> • <a href="/wiki/Yorkshire" title="Yorkshire">Yorkshire</a> • <a href="/wiki/Yorkshire_and_the_Humber" title="Yorkshire and the Humber">Yorkshire and the Humber</a></li></ul> <p>The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first. </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dt></dt></dl> <dl><dt><b>WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project</b></dt></dl> <p>The November 2024 articles selected below are an editor choice as there were no nominations on the project talk page. </p> <table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr align="center"> <th rowspan="2">Month </th> <th rowspan="2">Dates </th> <th colspan="3">Article(s) </th></tr> <tr align="center"> <td bgcolor="lightblue"><b>B class choice</b> </td> <td bgcolor="lightgreen"><b>Start class choice</b> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>174 </td> <td>1 Jun 2024 ~ 30 Jun 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Disappearance_of_Claudia_Lawrence" title="Disappearance of Claudia Lawrence">Disappearance of Claudia Lawrence</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Heart_Research_UK" title="Heart Research UK">Heart Research UK</a> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>175 </td> <td>1 Jul 2024 ~ 31 Jul 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Henry_Moore" title="Henry Moore">Henry Moore</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Ingleton_Waterfalls_Trail" title="Ingleton Waterfalls Trail">Ingleton Waterfalls Trail</a> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>176 </td> <td>1 Aug 2024 ~ 31 Aug 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Richard_Neile" title="Richard Neile">Richard Neile</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Jacobs_Well,_York" title="Jacobs Well, York">Jacobs Well, York</a> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>177 </td> <td>1 Sep 2024 ~ 30 Sep 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/On_Ilkla_Moor_Baht_%27at" title="On Ilkla Moor Baht 'at">On Ilkla Moor Baht 'at</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Kaiser_Chiefs" title="Kaiser Chiefs">Kaiser Chiefs</a> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>178 </td> <td>1 Oct 2024 ~ 31 Oct 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Michael_Parkinson" title="Michael Parkinson">Michael Parkinson</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Leeds_dripping_riot" title="Leeds dripping riot">Leeds dripping riot</a> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>179 </td> <td>1 Nov 2024 ~ 30 Nov 2024 </td> <td><a href="/wiki/River_Went" title="River Went">River Went</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Minster_Yard" title="Minster Yard">Minster Yard</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Please nominate future articles for improvement at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Yorkshire" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire</a>. </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dt><b>Please bear in mind...</b></dt></dl> <p><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Imbox_style.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Imbox_style.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="40" data-file-height="40"/></a></span>The project is subscribed to a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Yorkshire.html"><b>clean-up listing</b></a> which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. </p> <ul><li><i>Monitoring is essential</i><br/>Use the <a href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Watch_All" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Watch All">watchlist</a> to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.</li></ul> <ul><li><i>Moves</i><br/>Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR. You will also have to check that the Commons link is set correctly.</li></ul> <dl><dt>Thanks</dt></dl> <ul><li>A very big <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> to all the editors who labour away quietly and help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.</li></ul> <ul><li>To members who have added suggestions to the ToDo list at <a href="/wiki/Portal:Yorkshire" title="Portal:Yorkshire">Yorkshire Portal</a>.</li></ul> <ul><li>To the football and rugby editors who have done sterling work in keeping abreast of the top clubs.</li></ul> <ul><li>To all the WikiProject Yorkshire editors who have been busy on vandal patrol at <a href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Watch_All" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Watch All">watchlist</a>.</li></ul> <p><span class="skin-invert-image" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="thumbs up" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Thumbs-up-icon.svg/15px-Thumbs-up-icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Thumbs-up-icon.svg/23px-Thumbs-up-icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Thumbs-up-icon.svg/30px-Thumbs-up-icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="40"/></a></span> <i><b>Great!</b></i> </p> <dl><dt><b>Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...</b></dt></dl> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Newsletter/November_2024" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire/Newsletter/November 2024"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Orange_Icon_Talk.svg/150px-Orange_Icon_Talk.svg.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Orange_Icon_Talk.svg/225px-Orange_Icon_Talk.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Orange_Icon_Talk.svg/300px-Orange_Icon_Talk.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="301" data-file-height="301"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <hr/> <p><small>Written by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keith_D">Keith D</a></span> • Template by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jza84">Jza84</a></span> | <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Newsletter/November_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Newsletter/November 2024">Single-Page View</a></b></small> </p> <hr/> <p><b>Would you like to write the next newsletter for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:YORKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:YORKS">WP:YORKS</a>? 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New editors are always welcome!</b> </p> <hr/> <p><br/> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="center"><small>Delivered November 2024 by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery"><b>MediaWiki message delivery</b></a>.<br/> If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an <b>N</b> to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.</small></div> <p>18:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001700"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001700-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001700-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001700-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001700-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aglaé_de_Gramont" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aglaé_de_Gramont-20241117172700"><span id="Agla.C3.A9_de_Gramont"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aglaé_de_Gramont-20241117172700"></span><a href="/wiki/Agla%C3%A9_de_Gramont" title="Aglaé de Gramont">Aglaé de Gramont</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aglaé_de_Gramont-20241117172700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Aglaé de Gramont"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241117172700-Aglaé_de_Gramont"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a>! I know it's been a long time (couple months) since you've moved <a href="/wiki/Agla%C3%A9_de_Gramont" title="Aglaé de Gramont">Aglaé de Gramont</a> to mainspace, but I've recently rewritten it, may you please look over it? Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hectorinaaa" title="User talk:Hectorinaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Hectorinaaa-20241117172700-Aglaé_de_Gramont" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241117172700-Aglaé_de_Gramont"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hectorinaaa-20241117172700-Aglaé_de_Gramont"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20241118065000-Hectorinaaa-20241117172700"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a>. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119000800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119000800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119000800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_User_talk:Fastily" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily-20241119170700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily-20241119170700"></span>Regarding <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fastily" title="User talk:Fastily">User talk:Fastily</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily-20241119170700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Regarding User talk:Fastily"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">As someone who's been involved in more than my fair share of desysops, you never want this to be the outcome, but it is naive not to recognise it as a potential (even likely) outcome.</q> - I don't think asking other editors to consider a worst case scenario before surfacing valid criticism about a users actions is productive or healthy in this instance. <a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_Datta" title="User:Sohom Datta"><b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2; display: inline-block; transform: rotate(1deg)">Sohom</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sohom_Datta" title="User talk:Sohom Datta"><span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700-Regarding_User_talk:Fastily"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20241120082400-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700"></span>Okay. I do. If you can't stand the sight of blood, don't volunteer at the hospital. – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Joe_Roe-20241120082400-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20241120082400-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20241120082400-Sohom_Datta-20241119170700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20241121135600-Joe_Roe-20241120082400"></span>There's a difference between hoping an outcome will be different and not being able to handle the worst outcome. I've been through worse.</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_Datta" title="User:Sohom Datta">Sohom Datta</a>:</span> I appreciate you trying to defend me here, I really do, but I can stand up for myself. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Clovermoss-20241121135600-Joe_Roe-20241120082400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20241121135600-Joe_Roe-20241120082400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20241121135600-Joe_Roe-20241120082400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20241122131400-Clovermoss-20241121135600"></span>FTR neither this nor my comment quoted above were intended as criticisms of you. Just sharing what I've experienced with this kind of thing. – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Joe_Roe-20241122131400-Clovermoss-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20241122131400-Clovermoss-20241121135600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20241122131400-Clovermoss-20241121135600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20241122132700-Joe_Roe-20241122131400"></span>Okay, good to know. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Clovermoss-20241122132700-Joe_Roe-20241122131400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20241122132700-Joe_Roe-20241122131400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20241122132700-Joe_Roe-20241122131400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:AUTOP" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:AUTOP-20241121081800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:AUTOP-20241121081800"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOP">WP:AUTOP</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:AUTOP-20241121081800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: WP:AUTOP"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oshwah-20241121081800-WP:AUTOP"></span>Ack! It looks like we were modifying this page at the same time. I wasn't aware that you were also modifying it. My modifications may have undid some of your changes; if this is the case, please feel free to restore them. Any such edits like that were not intentional and I apologize in advance for doing so. If you have questions or wish to discuss any concerns, please feel free to message me on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah">my user talk page</a>. :-) Cheers - <a href="/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe#c-Oshwah-20241121081800-WP:AUTOP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oshwah-20241121081800-WP:AUTOP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oshwah-20241121081800-WP:AUTOP"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&oldid=1259867233">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Roe&oldid=1259867233</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 14:32<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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