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class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>user:Smefs again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-user:Smefs_again-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tupac_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tupac_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Tupac Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Tupac_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diminishment_icosahedron" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diminishment_icosahedron"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Diminishment icosahedron</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Diminishment_icosahedron-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Rapid-fire disruptive editor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Vandal calling my actions on Nguyễn Phú Trọng 'vandal ism'</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Request for mentoring and direction</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>RPPI for Across the River (etc)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Your semi-protection of Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>WP:3TOPE and WikiWork Factor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Johnuniq blocked the entire Rogers cellular network from editing Wikipedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Neo-fascism" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Neo-fascism"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Neo-fascism</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Neo-fascism-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Grace_VanderWaal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Grace_VanderWaal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Grace VanderWaal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Grace_VanderWaal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Email_disabled_on_IPs?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Email_disabled_on_IPs?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Email disabled on IPs?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Email_disabled_on_IPs?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Why is there so much disruption lately?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Advice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Advice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Advice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Advice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-LTA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#LTA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>LTA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-LTA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – August 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_the_feedback" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_the_feedback"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Thanks for the feedback</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_the_feedback-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ludogorets_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ludogorets_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Ludogorets page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ludogorets_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Leonard_Maltin_protection" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Leonard_Maltin_protection"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Leonard Maltin protection</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Leonard_Maltin_protection-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_warring_IP" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_warring_IP"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Edit warring IP</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_warring_IP-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI_Notice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI_Notice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>ANI Notice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-ANI_Notice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – September 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk:Yawn" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk:Yawn"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Talk:Yawn</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Talk:Yawn-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Rapid-fire bogus tagbombing by user with less than 400 edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Continuous removal of sourced content</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peter_Brimelow_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peter_Brimelow_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Peter Brimelow page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Peter_Brimelow_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Locked discussion in Big Pharma Conspiracy article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_favor_..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_favor_..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>A favor ...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_favor_...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Diff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Diff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – October 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sock_puppetry" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sock_puppetry"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Sock puppetry</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sock_puppetry-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Multiple IPs used for same vandalism</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Edit warrior on multiple articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>IP 51.235.176.151 user talk page abuse</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_small_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_small_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>A small request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_small_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-UNIFIL" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#UNIFIL"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>UNIFIL</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-UNIFIL-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Invitation to participate in a research</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IP_edit_warring" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IP_edit_warring"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>IP edit warring</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-IP_edit_warring-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Extreme violation of WP:AGF?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – November 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_warring_COI_editor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_warring_COI_editor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Edit warring COI editor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_warring_COI_editor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vandalism" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vandalism"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Vandalism</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vandalism-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Would you mind intervening again please</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-code_review_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#code_review_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>code review request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-code_review_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Does Mehmet Oz need semi protection?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vandalism_again" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vandalism_again"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Vandalism again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 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I won’t cast judgement on its validity but I think the user has a right to know whether they’ll be unblocked. <a href="/wiki/User:Dronebogus" title="User:Dronebogus">Dronebogus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dronebogus" title="User talk:Dronebogus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dronebogus-20240706082300-Unanswered_unblock_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dronebogus-20240706082300-Unanswered_unblock_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dronebogus-20240706082300-Unanswered_unblock_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240706093400-Dronebogus-20240706082300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dronebogus" title="User:Dronebogus">Dronebogus</a>:</span> After a fair bit of thought, I declined the request. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240706093400-Dronebogus-20240706082300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240706093400-Dronebogus-20240706082300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240706093400-Dronebogus-20240706082300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion-20240707044800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion-20240707044800"></span>Continued edit warring during open discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion-20240707044800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Continued edit warring during open discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20240707044800-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion"></span>Even though one person was already blocked for edit-warring on this, two others continue: <a href="/wiki/Richard_D%27Oyly_Carte" title="Richard D'Oyly Carte">Richard D'Oyly Carte</a>. Can you please return it to the status quo ante? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20240707044800-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20240707044800-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20240707044800-Continued_edit_warring_during_open_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20240713200900-Ssilvers-20240707044800"></span>There is an edit request there now that, I think, resolves the issue? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20240713200900-Ssilvers-20240707044800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20240713200900-Ssilvers-20240707044800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20240713200900-Ssilvers-20240707044800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240714023900-Ssilvers-20240713200900"></span>I saw that but did nothing because I think there should be a bit more time to see if anyone else has an opinion. I'll look again a little later. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240714023900-Ssilvers-20240713200900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240714023900-Ssilvers-20240713200900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240714023900-Ssilvers-20240713200900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="user:Smefs_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-user:Smefs_again-20240710164800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-user:Smefs_again-20240710164800"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Smefs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Smefs (page does not exist)">user:Smefs</a> again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-user:Smefs_again-20240710164800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: user:Smefs again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dronebogus-20240710164800-user:Smefs_again"></span>The user is now baselessly accusing me of being a sock of some user they have a grudge against. This is sufficient evidence to demonstrate they are uninterested in actually getting unblocked. I think revoking their talk page rights is in order. <a href="/wiki/User:Dronebogus" title="User:Dronebogus">Dronebogus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dronebogus" title="User talk:Dronebogus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dronebogus-20240710164800-user:Smefs_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dronebogus-20240710164800-user:Smefs_again"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dronebogus-20240710164800-user:Smefs_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240711014900-Dronebogus-20240710164800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dronebogus" title="User:Dronebogus">Dronebogus</a>:</span> The user is now unable to comment further at their talk so there is nothing further to do. However, for the future, please do not repeatedly comment at a blocked users talk unless invited. Very few people think they deserve to be blocked and it is expected that they will vent a bit. I know you were trying to help but it plainly was not doing any good. It's best to leave them alone and comment only if they ask for something specific and it appears that a reply might achieve something useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240711014900-Dronebogus-20240710164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240711014900-Dronebogus-20240710164800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240711014900-Dronebogus-20240710164800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tupac_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tupac_Page-20240713141200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tupac_Page-20240713141200"></span>Tupac Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tupac_Page-20240713141200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Tupac Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pier1999-20240713141200-Tupac_Page"></span>The Tupac page can now be edited by everyone; it wasn't like that before. Previously, only administrators and users with permission could edit it. This rule needs to be reinstated, or it will be edited every day <a href="/wiki/User:Pier1999" title="User:Pier1999">Pier1999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pier1999" title="User talk:Pier1999">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Pier1999-20240713141200-Tupac_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pier1999-20240713141200-Tupac_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pier1999-20240713141200-Tupac_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240714023700-Pier1999-20240713141200"></span>This refers to <a href="/wiki/Tupac_Shakur" title="Tupac Shakur">Tupac Shakur</a> where I don't think I have ever been involved. The above has been posted in a number of places and the article is now fully protected to prevent an edit war. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240714023700-Pier1999-20240713141200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240714023700-Pier1999-20240713141200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240714023700-Pier1999-20240713141200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diminishment_icosahedron" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diminishment_icosahedron-20240720130000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diminishment_icosahedron-20240720130000"></span>Diminishment icosahedron<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diminishment_icosahedron-20240720130000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Diminishment icosahedron"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000-Diminishment_icosahedron"></span>Hi. Excuse me, can you help me to delete the redirect article <a href="/wiki/Diminishment_icosahedron" class="mw-redirect" title="Diminishment icosahedron">Diminishment icosahedron</a>? It seems it is already has the name <a href="/wiki/Diminished_icosahedron" class="mw-redirect" title="Diminished icosahedron">Diminished icosahedron</a>. I really messed up. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dedhert.Jr" title="User:Dedhert.Jr">Dedhert.Jr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dedhert.Jr" title="User talk:Dedhert.Jr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000-Diminishment_icosahedron" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000-Diminishment_icosahedron"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000-Diminishment_icosahedron"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240721013500-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dedhert.Jr" title="User:Dedhert.Jr">Dedhert.Jr</a>:</span> I wouldn't worry about it. The word "diminishment" appears in the article (<a href="/wiki/Gyroelongated_pentagonal_pyramid" title="Gyroelongated pentagonal pyramid">Gyroelongated pentagonal pyramid</a>) and the redirect <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diminishment_icosahedron&redirect=no">Diminishment icosahedron</a></span> is not a problem. I would delete it if it was misleading or something bad but the people at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFD">WP:RFD</a> accept just about anything for redirects and this is a long way off that. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240721013500-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240721013500-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240721013500-Dedhert.Jr-20240720130000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor-20240721021600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor-20240721021600"></span>Rapid-fire disruptive editor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor-20240721021600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Rapid-fire disruptive editor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20240721021600-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor"></span>Please look at User:BittersweetParadox's edit history. They make numerous rapid edits to add wikilinks to words like <a href="/wiki/Baseball" title="Baseball">baseball</a> and make other mischievous edits, such as the edit on July 16th to <a href="/wiki/Lingua_franca" title="Lingua franca">Lingua franca</a>. They have been warned many, many times. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20240721021600-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20240721021600-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20240721021600-Rapid-fire_disruptive_editor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240721025800-Ssilvers-20240721021600"></span>I have warned and will watch. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240721025800-Ssilvers-20240721021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240721025800-Ssilvers-20240721021600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240721025800-Ssilvers-20240721021600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'-20240721112300"><span id="Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguy.E1.BB.85n_Ph.C3.BA_Tr.E1.BB.8Dng_.27vandal_ism.27"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'-20240721112300"></span>Vandal calling my actions on Nguyễn Phú Trọng 'vandal ism'<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'-20240721112300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Vandal calling my actions on Nguyễn Phú Trọng 'vandal ism'"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'"></span>Hi. There is a vandal, whose name is Maeve Kessler, trying to revert constructive edits, including mine. can you block him for a while? thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771" title="Special:Contributions/2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771">2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771" title="User talk:2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300-Vandal_calling_my_actions_on_Nguyễn_Phú_Trọng_'vandal_ism'"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721113800-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300"></span>Nevermind, he already got blocked.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771" title="Special:Contributions/2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771">2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771" title="User talk:2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721113800-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721113800-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721113800-2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771-20240721112300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_mentoring_and_direction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction-20240721161800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction-20240721161800"></span>Request for mentoring and direction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction-20240721161800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Request for mentoring and direction"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koavf-20240721161800-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"></span>As you likely recall, I recently <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#User_is_ignoring_ArbCom's_explicit_instructions,_is_harassing,_hounding,_and_attacking_me." title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">posted to WP:AN</a>, escalating an issue that many other users explicitly said I was wrong to escalate to that venue and that they objected to my framing in many respects. There were additional complaints about my tone, skirting editing restrictions, etc. I appreciate that the issue at large just got out of control. Unfortunately, the issue in general has continued. As you noted at the time, "changing the style of anything in an article without good reason is very disruptive" and as soon as that conversation was closed at AN, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carolyn%27s_Boy&diff=prev&oldid=1235855353">the same user changed styles on an article where we discussed this years ago</a>. I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACloversMallRat&oldid=prev&diff=1235858771">posted to his talk and he archived the thread without responding</a>. Both my perspective and his behavior seem like they are not changing and for many reasons, escalating it to WP:AN is not the right idea and the user does not seem interested in discussing one-one one, so I will not be posting to his talk again as I have no interest in harassing someone who refuses to talk. (I also didn't ping him because I don't see value in that, but I respect if you want to notify him of the conversation.) What do you recommend I do here? I still think and it seems like you validated that changing styles unilaterally is disruptive, so is there something that I'm missing here? What should I be doing differently? ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko<b>a</b><span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)</a><span style="color:red">❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Koavf-20240721161800-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-20240721161800-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-20240721161800-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CloversMallRat-20240721163400-Koavf-20240721161800"></span>We've gone round and round and round in one-on-one discussions and you made the decision to withdraw your complaint due to the overwhelming majority of the responses from admins being unfavorable toward your argument, so I'm at an impasse as far as being able to engage with you (not that this is anything new). It was brought to my attention through that discourse (by <a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">User:Just Step Sideways</a>) that the way you addressed me regarding the page I just went back and made edits to was inappropriate at the time and again, I only make changes under good reasons, and in this case it was to reflect a consistent style across the board as he already had multiple country albums release prior to that with the tracklisting template. <a href="/wiki/User:CloversMallRat" title="User:CloversMallRat">CloversMallRat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CloversMallRat" title="User talk:CloversMallRat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-CloversMallRat-20240721163400-Koavf-20240721161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CloversMallRat-20240721163400-Koavf-20240721161800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CloversMallRat-20240721163400-Koavf-20240721161800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koavf-20240721171300-CloversMallRat-20240721163400"></span>Please see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1235756768">this post</a> where Johnuniq explicitly wrote, "If <i>new</i> examples of arbitrary style changes occur, please let me know." That is the only reason I wrote here, since I was solicited to do so. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko<b>a</b><span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)</a><span style="color:red">❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Koavf-20240721171300-CloversMallRat-20240721163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-20240721171300-CloversMallRat-20240721163400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-20240721171300-CloversMallRat-20240721163400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240722043200-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:CloversMallRat" title="User:CloversMallRat">CloversMallRat</a>:</span> As noted at WP:AN, Koavf has an interesting history and you might correctly assume that the discussion there did not support Koavf's position. However, the comments that I noticed were focusing on the extreme TLDR and background rather than the issue. I did see one comment along the lines of <i>who cares</i> but that is just wrong due to the amazing disruption that has occurred when people dedicate themselves to "fixing" various style issues—dates, spelling, colors, spacing, wiki syntax, and probably many more. The documentation at <a href="/wiki/Template:Track_listing" title="Template:Track listing">Template:Track listing</a> specifically mentions <a href="/wiki/MOS:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:VAR">MOS:VAR</a> and that does not appear to have been added recently. I take your point that a good argument can be made for a consistent style between articles on a single artist. However, that argument has to be made somewhere central such as a relevant wikiproject. A positive consensus has to be shown before continuing a campaign. Is there any documentation or discussion supporting a continuation? Do you have any idea how many more of these articles need to be "fixed"? A dozen? A hundred? By discussion, I don't mean bickering with extreme indignation at a user or an article talk page. Has there been a calm wikiproject discussion on this issue? If not, and if you intend continuing, please start a discussion and let me know where it is. If wanted, link to here or AN, but do not mention other editors at a wikiproject. What is needed is a calm examination of the issue, not the background. Changing any further articles without such a discussion would be disruptive. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240722043200-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240722043200-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240722043200-Request_for_mentoring_and_direction"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)" data-mw-thread-id="h-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)-20240722050200"><span id="RPPI_for_Across_the_River_.28etc.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)-20240722050200"></span>RPPI for Across the River (etc)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)-20240722050200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: RPPI for Across the River (etc)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Axad12-20240722050200-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)"></span>Hi, Many thanks for your recent assistance at WP:RPPI, much appreciated. </p><p>Any thoughts on how the broader NOTHERE issues in relation to that multiple IP address user might be resolved? I’m not sure that attempting to get further blocks like this one <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/151.82.106.211">[1]</a> is really going to work (although i don't think it would necessarily do any harm, given recent edits like this <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lionel_Bart&diff=prev&oldid=1235831961">[2]</a>. </p><p>Any assistance gratefully received. <a href="/wiki/User:Axad12" title="User:Axad12">Axad12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Axad12" title="User talk:Axad12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Axad12-20240722050200-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Axad12-20240722050200-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Axad12-20240722050200-RPPI_for_Across_the_River_(etc)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240722052300-Axad12-20240722050200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Axad12" title="User:Axad12">Axad12</a>:</span> I blocked <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/151.71.102.0/24" title="Special:Contributions/151.71.102.0/24">Special:Contributions/151.71.102.0/24</a> for three months. Let me know what pops up next. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240722052300-Axad12-20240722050200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240722052300-Axad12-20240722050200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240722052300-Axad12-20240722050200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Axad12-20240722052600-Johnuniq-20240722052300"></span>Much obliged. I'll keep an eye on the situation. <a href="/wiki/User:Axad12" title="User:Axad12">Axad12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Axad12" title="User talk:Axad12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Axad12-20240722052600-Johnuniq-20240722052300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Axad12-20240722052600-Johnuniq-20240722052300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Axad12-20240722052600-Johnuniq-20240722052300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres-20240722053600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres-20240722053600"></span>Your semi-protection of Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres-20240722053600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Your semi-protection of Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres"></span>Figured I should point out I had made a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase#Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election">RPP for the page</a> so you can mark it off. <b style="font-family:Century Gothic,sans-serif;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px #69b3e7;color:#fd0;"><a href="/wiki/User:CR90" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CR90"><span style="color:#041e42;">TrueCRaysball</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CR90" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:CR90">💬</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TrueCRaysball" title="Special:Contributions/TrueCRaysball">✏️</a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600-Your_semi-protection_of_Withdrawal_of_Joe_Biden_from_the_2024_United_States_pres"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240722053700-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600"></span>I saw your report which is why I protected. I had to add it to the log and so was slow updating the request page. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240722053700-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240722053700-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240722053700-TrueCRaysball-20240722053600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053900-Johnuniq-20240722053700"></span>Sounds good. We were fighting for our lives there. LMAO. Thanks for your help! <b style="font-family:Century Gothic,sans-serif;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px #69b3e7;color:#fd0;"><a href="/wiki/User:CR90" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CR90"><span style="color:#041e42;">TrueCRaysball</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CR90" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:CR90">💬</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TrueCRaysball" title="Special:Contributions/TrueCRaysball">✏️</a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053900-Johnuniq-20240722053700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053900-Johnuniq-20240722053700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TrueCRaysball-20240722053900-Johnuniq-20240722053700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor-20240722112700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor-20240722112700"></span>WP:3TOPE and WikiWork Factor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor-20240722112700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: WP:3TOPE and WikiWork Factor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor"></span>Hi, @<a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a>. I have asked this in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a> but it does not give responses from many users. Do you know where can I request to include the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3TOPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3TOPE">WP:3TOPE</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Polyhedra/table" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Polyhedra/table">asssesment table</a> to WikiWork Factor? The mismatched number of polyhedron articles in a table is already an old problem after it was created. <a href="/wiki/User:Dedhert.Jr" title="User:Dedhert.Jr">Dedhert.Jr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dedhert.Jr" title="User talk:Dedhert.Jr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700-WP:3TOPE_and_WikiWork_Factor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240723025200-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700"></span>I know very little about article assessment and won't be much help. A relevant mention is at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Articles_by_Quality_and_Importance#Unknown-importance_articles_not_included_in_total" title="Template talk:Articles by Quality and Importance">Template talk:Articles by Quality and Importance#Unknown-importance articles not included in total</a>. It looks like the system relies on categories and they can take a long time to update after changes occur. A category might update immediately or it might take several days or longer. If there were a specific problem (at [link], x should be y) I might be able to investigate. I found WikiWork at <a href="/wiki/User:WP_1.0_bot/WikiWork" title="User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork">User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork</a> with its <a href="/wiki/User:WP_1.0_bot/WikiWork/faq" title="User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork/faq">FAQ</a>. I agree with a comment at the Teahouse that it can be hard to get a wikiproject going and there is not much point persisting if only one person is involved. Small wikiprojects get created when people are enthusiastic but after a year or so, not much happens and people move on. If I need to ask for assistance with some topic, I prefer asking at a major top-level wikiproject with some activity rather than at a small project which in principle would be more pertinent. I don't know anything about WikiWork. By the way, there is no need to ping someone at their own talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240723025200-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240723025200-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240723025200-Dedhert.Jr-20240722112700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240723134800-Johnuniq-20240723025200"></span>By the way, my apologies for pinging. It was my habit, and I learned my lesson. After all, it looks like the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Category_class" title="Template:Category class">category class</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> also have the same effect. I have no clue whether, I, the only person, can remain continue the activity of that project, instead of require some users to do. I wish I could update the project by changing it, although it will be drastic. <a href="/wiki/User:Dedhert.Jr" title="User:Dedhert.Jr">Dedhert.Jr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dedhert.Jr" title="User talk:Dedhert.Jr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dedhert.Jr-20240723134800-Johnuniq-20240723025200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240723134800-Johnuniq-20240723025200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dedhert.Jr-20240723134800-Johnuniq-20240723025200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia-20240723175800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia-20240723175800"></span>Johnuniq blocked the entire Rogers cellular network from editing Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia-20240723175800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Johnuniq blocked the entire Rogers cellular network from editing Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Over1BillionPagesOnWiki-20240723175800-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia"></span>‪2605:8D80:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 is the range that this user has blocked. Even though the block expires in about 2 months, it's still problematic. (Either it's the Rogers cellular network, the DuckDuckGo web browser, or something else that I missed.) <a href="/wiki/User:Over1BillionPagesOnWiki" title="User:Over1BillionPagesOnWiki">Over1BillionPagesOnWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Over1BillionPagesOnWiki" title="User talk:Over1BillionPagesOnWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Over1BillionPagesOnWiki-20240723175800-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Over1BillionPagesOnWiki-20240723175800-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Over1BillionPagesOnWiki-20240723175800-Johnuniq_blocked_the_entire_Rogers_cellular_network_from_editing_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Neo-fascism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Neo-fascism-20240724145100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Neo-fascism-20240724145100"></span>Neo-fascism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Neo-fascism-20240724145100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Neo-fascism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100-Neo-fascism"></span>Hello, you have blocked the pages of <a href="/wiki/Freedom_and_Direct_Democracy" title="Freedom and Direct Democracy">Freedom and Direct Democracy</a> and <a href="/wiki/Our_Homeland_Movement" title="Our Homeland Movement">Our Homeland Movement</a>. Both have concrete references and an armed consensus so that neo-fascism is mentioned in their infobox. But a user who arbitrarily removes referenced content, because he simply doesn't like it, has removed neo-fascism by arguing that the references don't mention it, which is completely false. So I wanted to ask you to please revert the edits of this disruptive user. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Democr%C3%A1tico_Slovak&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Democrático Slovak (page does not exist)">Democrático Slovak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Democr%C3%A1tico_Slovak" title="User talk:Democrático Slovak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100-Neo-fascism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100-Neo-fascism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100-Neo-fascism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240725004400-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Democr%C3%A1tico_Slovak&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Democrático Slovak (page does not exist)">Democrático Slovak</a>:</span> An issue like this should be discussed on the article talk page. Editors should have been able to see the messages that I left. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240725004400-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240725004400-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240725004400-Democrático_Slovak-20240724145100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Grace_VanderWaal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Grace_VanderWaal-20240726184500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Grace_VanderWaal-20240726184500"></span><a href="/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal" title="Grace VanderWaal">Grace VanderWaal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Grace_VanderWaal-20240726184500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Grace VanderWaal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20240726184500-Grace_VanderWaal"></span>This Daniel Larson nonsense is back. New user:Fhfhdvevdgxgdbegobirhwv is edit warring to add this: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grace_VanderWaal&diff=prev&oldid=1236817726">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grace_VanderWaal&diff=prev&oldid=1236817726</a> to VanderWaal's article. In case you don't remember, Larson is a YouTuber who is apparently obsessed with VanderWaal and has been stalking her for some years, claiming to be her "boyfriend". There is no evidence, other than his own social media posts, that she has ever met or communicated with him. I have tried to explain <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a> to this new editor. Would you please take a look? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20240726184500-Grace_VanderWaal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20240726184500-Grace_VanderWaal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20240726184500-Grace_VanderWaal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240726235000-Ssilvers-20240726184500"></span>Thanks to <a href="/wiki/User:Isabelle_Belato" title="User:Isabelle Belato">Isabelle Belato</a> who handled the issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240726235000-Ssilvers-20240726184500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240726235000-Ssilvers-20240726184500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240726235000-Ssilvers-20240726184500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20240730102500"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20240730102500"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20240730102500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Happy Adminship Anniversary!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Herald-20240730102500-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238436933">.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);box-sizing:border-box;color:var(--color-base,#202122)}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .ombox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .ombox-content{border:1px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .ombox-style{border:1px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .ombox-move{border:1px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .ombox-protection{border:2px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.ombox img{max-width:none!important}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style><table class="box-Happy_Adminship plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation" style="border: 2px solid SlateBlue; background: linear-gradient(to right, #a1ffce, #faffd1);"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Wikipedia globe and sysop mop" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/50px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/75px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/100px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="padding: 0.75em; text-align:center;"><big><b>Happy adminship anniversary!</b></big><br/>Hi Johnuniq! On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3AJohnuniq">successful request for adminship</a>. Enjoy this special day! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Herald">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-The_Herald-20240730102500-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Herald-20240730102500-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Herald-20240730102500-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f389.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Party popper emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Email_disabled_on_IPs?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Email_disabled_on_IPs?-20240803032300"><span id="Email_disabled_on_IPs.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Email_disabled_on_IPs?-20240803032300"></span>Email disabled on IPs?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Email_disabled_on_IPs?-20240803032300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Email disabled on IPs?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300-Email_disabled_on_IPs?"></span>Just curious, since you've done it twice recently - does disabling email on <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239335663">.mw-parser-output .mw-tmpl-kbd{background:#EEE;color:var(--color-base)}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .mw-tmpl-kbd{background:#171a1d}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .mw-tmpl-kbd{background:#171a1d}}</style><kbd class="mw-tmpl-kbd" style="letter-spacing:0.05em; padding-left:0.25em; padding-right:0.2em;">anon. only</kbd> blocked IPs even do anything?<br/> Or are they just misclicks? – <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702">2804:F1...0F:3702</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300-Email_disabled_on_IPs?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300-Email_disabled_on_IPs?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300-Email_disabled_on_IPs?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240803032700-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300"></span>I assume it does nothing. A day or two ago I took a look at what other admins were doing after seeing some blocks for 31 hours(!). A couple I saw had disabled talk and email. I wondered if that was some script they were using or whether they knew something I didn't. I think probably not but it's easy to tick everything to disable it so that's what I've been doing lately. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240803032700-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240803032700-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240803032700-2804:F14:8084:CE01:A405:1023:40F:3702-20240803032300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240804091800"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240804091800"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240804091800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20240804091800-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Admin's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I wanted to give you this barnstar for your devotion to dealing with IP addresses used by that sick, fierce LTA, in real time! — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-AP_499D25-20240804091800-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20240804091800-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20240804091800-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240804093800-AP_499D25-20240804091800"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240804093800-AP_499D25-20240804091800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240804093800-AP_499D25-20240804091800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240804093800-AP_499D25-20240804091800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?-20240804233000"><span id="Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?-20240804233000"></span>Why is there so much disruption lately?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?-20240804233000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Why is there so much disruption lately?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240804233000-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?"></span>For the past month or so, my watchlist has been a blizzard of revdels. Why do you think so much of this is going on at this time? <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240804233000-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240804233000-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240804233000-Why_is_there_so_much_disruption_lately?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20240804234400-Softlavender-20240804233000"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> It's one person, mostly. Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20240804234400-Softlavender-20240804233000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20240804234400-Softlavender-20240804233000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20240804234400-Softlavender-20240804233000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advice-20240805034200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advice-20240805034200"></span>Advice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advice-20240805034200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Advice"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200-Advice"></span>Hey, I hope you are doing well. I wanted to please ask for some advice regarding <a href="/wiki/Charlie_Suff" title="Charlie Suff">Charlie Suff</a>. For the past few months various IPs (from the same range) have been changing the age, using <a href="/wiki/Genes_Reunited" title="Genes Reunited">Genes Reunited</a> despite it not being 100% certain if it is the same person. They kept changing it in May and after I reverted it yesterday and I have told them about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY">WP:BLPPRIMARY</a> they still are not stopping. I initially requested protection for the page but I thought I would ask an admin beforehand, as it is stressing me out that they keep changing this as it is a BLP. I am sorry for disturbing your day. <a href="/wiki/User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">DaniloDaysOfOurLives</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200-Advice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200-Advice"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200-Advice"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240805035000-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">DaniloDaysOfOurLives</a>:</span> I'll handle it but not until there is a good explanation on article talk. After that, please revert with a link to the section with the explanation. If it changes again, you can contact me. On talk, please include what the sources say that leads to the conclusion regarding the birth date. Often it seems best just to omit the birth date if the sourcing is dubious or based on inferences. At any rate, full details are needed on talk for now and for the future when the issue arises again. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240805035000-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240805035000-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240805035000-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20240805034200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LTA" data-mw-thread-id="h-LTA-20240805041500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LTA-20240805041500"></span>LTA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LTA-20240805041500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: LTA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjones23-20240805041500-LTA"></span>Hi, Johnuniq. About that LTA user from South Korea who was disruptive at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BN">WP:BN</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, I have a quick question: is an IP range block necessary? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23" title="User:Sjones23">Lord Sjones23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sjones23" title="User talk:Sjones23">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23/Wikipedia_contributions" title="User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sjones23-20240805041500-LTA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjones23-20240805041500-LTA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sjones23-20240805041500-LTA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240805042000-Sjones23-20240805041500"></span>That was mentioned <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#So_what_are_we_doing_about_that_IP" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">at ANI</a> but I don't think anyone has properly investigated the range required or the side effects. If you have a suggestion, post it at ANI although only very useful comments should be added per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DENY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DENY">WP:DENY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240805042000-Sjones23-20240805041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240805042000-Sjones23-20240805041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240805042000-Sjones23-20240805041500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjones23-20240805042300-Johnuniq-20240805042000"></span>Got it. <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23" title="User:Sjones23">Lord Sjones23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sjones23" title="User talk:Sjones23">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23/Wikipedia_contributions" title="User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sjones23-20240805042300-Johnuniq-20240805042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjones23-20240805042300-Johnuniq-20240805042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sjones23-20240805042300-Johnuniq-20240805042000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guerillero-20240813085300-Sjones23-20240805041500"></span>Why are you blocking what seem to be very dynamic IPs for a year? Blocking for a day would make them hop just the same -- <a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero" title="User:Guerillero">Guerillero</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guerillero" title="User talk:Guerillero"><span style="color: green;">Parlez Moi</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Guerillero-20240813085300-Sjones23-20240805041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guerillero-20240813085300-Sjones23-20240805041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guerillero-20240813085300-Sjones23-20240805041500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240813091000-Guerillero-20240813085300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero" title="User:Guerillero">Guerillero</a>:</span> I was doing it for the normal short period, but then I saw very experienced admins blocking for a year. I also saw a couple of IPs which had been blocked for 48 hours or similar a few days prior to being reused. I saw an admin recently blocking for two years. Apparently the IPs are residential proxies which means anyone can get access to them and there is no way to anticipate whether they are proxies or to test them. My preference would be for the WMF to take ownership of the issue and for admins here to not have to do anything. On the one hand, a blocked IP might be prevented from useful contributions, but on the other, regular editors get dispirited when they see inadequate responses to blatant abuse. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240813091000-Guerillero-20240813085300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240813091000-Guerillero-20240813085300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240813091000-Guerillero-20240813085300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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(I had never even heard of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAIT">WP:FAIT</a>, for example). I was hoping to get some advice about what the best thing to do moving forward on this topic is, I do want to make changes to these articles, but I also really do not want to edit war. <a href="/wiki/User:Allan_Nonymous" title="User:Allan Nonymous">Allan Nonymous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Allan_Nonymous" title="User talk:Allan Nonymous">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100-Thanks_for_the_feedback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100-Thanks_for_the_feedback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100-Thanks_for_the_feedback"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polyamorph-20240808144600-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Allan_Nonymous" title="User:Allan Nonymous">Allan Nonymous</a>:</span> 6 minutes after this note saying you don't want to edit war, you [<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1&diff=1239303818&oldid=1239254226">reverted to your preferred version</a> yet again at <a href="/wiki/1" title="1">1</a>. This is arguably beyond 3RR now. <small><i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Polyamorph" title="User:Polyamorph">Polyamorph</a></b></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polyamorph#top" title="User talk:Polyamorph">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Polyamorph-20240808144600-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polyamorph-20240808144600-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polyamorph-20240808144600-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500-Polyamorph-20240808144600"></span>I reverted the edit in question. It was, frankly, a pretty silly moment of bad decision making for which I take full responsibility (and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TROUT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TROUT">WP:TROUTs</a> to the face) for. <a href="/wiki/User:Allan_Nonymous" title="User:Allan Nonymous">Allan Nonymous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Allan_Nonymous" title="User talk:Allan Nonymous">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500-Polyamorph-20240808144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500-Polyamorph-20240808144600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500-Polyamorph-20240808144600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polyamorph-20240808170400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500"></span>Yet you're still removing content. This counts as a partial revert. <small><i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Polyamorph" title="User:Polyamorph">Polyamorph</a></b></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polyamorph#top" title="User talk:Polyamorph">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Polyamorph-20240808170400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polyamorph-20240808170400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polyamorph-20240808170400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808152500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240808233400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"></span>For the record, this relates to edits at number articles such as <a href="/wiki/1" title="1">1</a>, with a correspondingly large discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Numbers#Help_remove_WP:CRUFT_on_number_articles!" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers">WT:WikiProject Numbers#Help remove WP:CRUFT on number articles!</a>. Mass editing without clear consensus in advance can often lead to disruption. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240808233400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240808233400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240808233400-Allan_Nonymous-20240808143100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ludogorets_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ludogorets_page-20240813175600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ludogorets_page-20240813175600"></span>Ludogorets page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ludogorets_page-20240813175600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Ludogorets page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span id="PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="PFC Ludogorets Razgrad"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yupyuphello-20240813175600-Ludogorets_page"></span>PFC Ludogorets Razgrad</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="Special:EditPage/PFC Ludogorets Razgrad">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="Talk:PFC Ludogorets Razgrad">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="Special:PageHistory/PFC Ludogorets Razgrad">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="Special:ProtectPage/PFC Ludogorets Razgrad">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad" title="Special:DeletePage/PFC Ludogorets Razgrad">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad&limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=PFC+Ludogorets+Razgrad">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad&project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Hey, per the instructions <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&oldid=prev&diff=1238676587">here</a>, I'm reaching out. As you can see in the Ludogorets page history <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PFC_Ludogorets_Razgrad&action=history">here</a>, there have been more instances of new profiles and IPs doing the same changes - warned a couple of times, referred to the talk page, they're still at it. At this point I'm just getting a bit tired of yelling at a wall and reverting things non-stop - they've even started deleting the default instructions not to edit the roster, possibly to make their changes logical? No clue. As a side question, in the talk page we had a Team Manager for that football club reach out about updating the logo - tried to give some info as did other users, but I'm not sure if we misled him about how to go about the whole thing, if you want to chime in on that too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yupyuphello" title="User talk:Yupyuphello">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Yupyuphello-20240813175600-Ludogorets_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yupyuphello-20240813175600-Ludogorets_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yupyuphello-20240813175600-Ludogorets_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240814022900-Yupyuphello-20240813175600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a>:</span> I semi-protected the article but some of the contributors will soon be able to edit it anyway. If problems continue, I'll try to have word with them. You will see that I have replied at article talk regarding the logo (and at the user's talk). <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240814022900-Yupyuphello-20240813175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240814022900-Yupyuphello-20240813175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240814022900-Yupyuphello-20240813175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yupyuphello-20240814045200-Johnuniq-20240814022900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> Thank you, I will monitor, there were sadly some unfortunate edits yet again due to a bad result in a game last evening. Should I proactively list any issues/accounts in a reply here every once in a while, or would that be annoying/not the proper way to report anybody continuing to abuse the article? --<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yupyuphello" title="User talk:Yupyuphello">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Yupyuphello-20240814045200-Johnuniq-20240814022900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yupyuphello-20240814045200-Johnuniq-20240814022900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yupyuphello-20240814045200-Johnuniq-20240814022900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240814051300-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a>:</span> Please explain any reverts that are needed on article talk. If repeating yourself, just link to an earlier explanation. You might give a diff of a problematic edit which I can see, but just one or two (it's best to focus on a single issue). You can ping me from there if needed. If I don't respond in 24 hours or so, remind me here because I might have missed a ping. It doesn't matter, but FYI, a ping on a user talk page is not needed and doesn't work. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240814051300-Yupyuphello-20240814045200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240814051300-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240814051300-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240814051800-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"></span>I just saw your edit summary: "Reverting another set of malicious changes". Please don't say that sort of thing in an edit summary because it won't help anything and it will count against you if the matter is ever at an admin noticeboard (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">WP:VAND</a> which boils down to saying that <i>poop</i> is vandalism but just about anything else is a good-faith although possibly mistaken edit). We can't know if someone is malicious. Just say something like "reverting mistaken edits, see talk". <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240814051800-Yupyuphello-20240814045200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240814051800-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240814051800-Yupyuphello-20240814045200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yupyuphello-20240814070700-Johnuniq-20240814051800"></span>Okay, will keep it in mind. And fair enough, will stop calling it malicious. Hopefully it will not be held against me, as the latest set of changes are literally people deleting players that performed badly in the last match and replacing the staff with a note in Bulgarian saying "RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN". Either way - thank you for the explanation and the assistance! --<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yupyuphello" title="User talk:Yupyuphello">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Yupyuphello-20240814070700-Johnuniq-20240814051800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yupyuphello-20240814070700-Johnuniq-20240814051800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yupyuphello-20240814070700-Johnuniq-20240814051800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yupyuphello-20240928100800-Johnuniq-20240814051800"></span>Unfortunately, another IP seems to be at it again, twice now in the span of a few days, and at this point I'm a bit flabbergasted as to what to do, since there seems to be no easy way around this without another page protection of some sort. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yupyuphello" title="User talk:Yupyuphello">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Yupyuphello-20240928100800-Johnuniq-20240814051800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yupyuphello-20240928100800-Johnuniq-20240814051800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yupyuphello-20240928100800-Johnuniq-20240814051800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928102700-Yupyuphello-20240928100800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a>:</span> Regarding the recent edits, do you know if the edits are <i>wrong</i> or merely unsourced (and unexplained)? If wrong, how is that known? A lot of these kind of articles are frequently changed by passers by with no sources and I'm pretty pessimistic about ever having them under control. I'm willing to protect for longer periods on an unsourced basis but I would like to know what you think we are dealing with. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928102700-Yupyuphello-20240928100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928102700-Yupyuphello-20240928100800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928102700-Yupyuphello-20240928100800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yupyuphello-20240928104700-Johnuniq-20240928102700"></span>The changes are unsourced and/or wrong, depending on your views:</dd> <dd>1. Simon Sluga is probably being removed by the IP, as he is no longer listed on Ludogorets' website and/or because Transfermarkt has him listed as a free agent (not a credible source in my view). There are no news articles about him being released, nor articles that he has joined a new club, thus he's in limbo in my view.</dd> <dd>2. Raí Nascimento is the same - being removed probably because he is no longer on the team's website, yet listed as part of the team on Transfermarkt. No information about him being released and/or joining a new team, thus also in limbo.</dd> <dd>3. Elisey Sarov is listed as a player both for the first team and the second team - he plays for the second team, but he is on the roster and was used in a few of the summer camp matches by the first squad, thus I see no reason to not list him, although he hasn't been on the bench or in a match so far this year. This one could be argued either way, but since he's still features on Ludogorets' website in both rosters after numerous updates/additions of new players, that's good enough for me personally.</dd> <dd>For the first two I'd gladly change them once there are some tangible sources I can fall back to and include in the transfers' list for this period, otherwise they're probably just in what's proverbially known as contract hell - probably removed from the roster, as they're refusing to end their contracts. I will move Raí to the same spot as Sluga, but otherwise it's just a case of zero sources to go on, and I've tried to find some.</dd> <dd>Per the above, I'd say unsourced changes, since any transfers also need to be sourced, as I have been doing <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bulgarian_football_transfers_summer_2024#Ludogorets">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Yupyuphello" title="User:Yupyuphello">Yupyuphello</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yupyuphello" title="User talk:Yupyuphello">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Yupyuphello-20240928104700-Johnuniq-20240928102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yupyuphello-20240928104700-Johnuniq-20240928102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yupyuphello-20240928104700-Johnuniq-20240928102700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928105500-Yupyuphello-20240928104700"></span>I semi-protected the article and posted an explanation on talk. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928105500-Yupyuphello-20240928104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928105500-Yupyuphello-20240928104700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928105500-Yupyuphello-20240928104700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leonard_Maltin_protection" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leonard_Maltin_protection-20240818121600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leonard_Maltin_protection-20240818121600"></span>Leonard Maltin protection<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leonard_Maltin_protection-20240818121600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Leonard Maltin protection"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StewdioMACK-20240818121600-Leonard_Maltin_protection"></span>Hello. Thank you for applying the three day semi-protection to <a href="/wiki/Leonard_Maltin" title="Leonard Maltin">Leonard Maltin</a>. However upon a little investigation, different IPs have been repeatedly trying to make essentially the same (unsourced, opinionated) edit to the introduction since December 2023, eight months ago (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leonard_Maltin&diff=prev&oldid=1188098567">diff</a> here). I'm not super familiar with the protection process but potentially some sort of longer-term semi-protection may be called for? Thanks again for your assistance. <a href="/wiki/User:StewdioMACK" title="User:StewdioMACK">StewdioMACK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StewdioMACK" title="User talk:StewdioMACK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-StewdioMACK-20240818121600-Leonard_Maltin_protection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StewdioMACK-20240818121600-Leonard_Maltin_protection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StewdioMACK-20240818121600-Leonard_Maltin_protection"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StewdioMACK-20240818125300-StewdioMACK-20240818121600"></span>It's just occurred to me that maybe I should have put this on the article's talk page and pinged you. If that would be the case, feel free to move this discussion there from your talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:StewdioMACK" title="User:StewdioMACK">StewdioMACK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StewdioMACK" title="User talk:StewdioMACK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-StewdioMACK-20240818125300-StewdioMACK-20240818121600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StewdioMACK-20240818125300-StewdioMACK-20240818121600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StewdioMACK-20240818125300-StewdioMACK-20240818121600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240818230900-StewdioMACK-20240818125300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:StewdioMACK" title="User:StewdioMACK">StewdioMACK</a>:</span> My semi-protection of three days is the first time protection has been applied to this article. Standard procedure is that responses to problems have to escalate. Let me know if it happens again and I'll act then. It would be best to start a new section at article talk with a diff of a recent edit to the article (a diff which would have probably been reverted). Add an explanation of why it was unsatisfactory, possibly mentioning <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUE">WP:DUE</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a>. Include a ping to me. If I don't respond in a day or two, post here. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240818230900-StewdioMACK-20240818125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240818230900-StewdioMACK-20240818125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240818230900-StewdioMACK-20240818125300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StewdioMACK-20240819041800-Johnuniq-20240818230900"></span>Thanks for the response, understood. <a href="/wiki/User:StewdioMACK" title="User:StewdioMACK">StewdioMACK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StewdioMACK" title="User talk:StewdioMACK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-StewdioMACK-20240819041800-Johnuniq-20240818230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StewdioMACK-20240819041800-Johnuniq-20240818230900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StewdioMACK-20240819041800-Johnuniq-20240818230900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_warring_IP" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_warring_IP-20240820221000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_warring_IP-20240820221000"></span>Edit warring IP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_warring_IP-20240820221000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Edit warring IP"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20240820221000-Edit_warring_IP"></span>Can anything be done to get this IP to go to the Talk page instead of Edit warring <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morissette_(singer)&curid=39802265&action=history">at this article</a>? I have asked them to do so and left edit summaries explaining, but.... Perhaps semiprotection? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20240820221000-Edit_warring_IP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20240820221000-Edit_warring_IP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20240820221000-Edit_warring_IP"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240821014400-Ssilvers-20240820221000"></span>See my comment at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:190.167.27.164" title="User talk:190.167.27.164">User talk:190.167.27.164</a>. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SHORTDESC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SHORTDESC">WP:SHORTDESC</a>, the purpose of a short description is to disambiguate searches and adding "songwriter" to "singer" might not be needed. However, the IP should be at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Morissette_(singer)" title="Talk:Morissette (singer)">Talk:Morissette (singer)</a> and I will watch for a while. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240821014400-Ssilvers-20240820221000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240821014400-Ssilvers-20240820221000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240821014400-Ssilvers-20240820221000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_Notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_Notice-20240829141000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_Notice-20240829141000"></span>ANI Notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_Notice-20240829141000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: ANI Notice"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000-ANI_Notice"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Kcmastrpc" title="User:Kcmastrpc">Kcmastrpc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kcmastrpc" title="User talk:Kcmastrpc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000-ANI_Notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000-ANI_Notice"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000-ANI_Notice"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240830051700-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000"></span>For posterity, this relates to <a href="/wiki/Talk:JD_Vance#Remove_the_nonsense_about_the_couch" title="Talk:JD Vance">Talk:JD Vance#Remove the nonsense about the couch</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#JD_Vance_Couch_Hoax_Disruptive_Behavior" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">ANI report</a>. A couple of editors (not Kcmastrpc) are requiring evidence that it would be contentious to edit <a href="/wiki/JD_Vance" title="JD Vance">JD Vance</a> to add mention of fucking a couch. I asked at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Shitposts_in_biographies" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Shitposts in biographies</a> and another BLPN report is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#JD_Vance_Couch_Hoax_reintroduced_without_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240830051700-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240830051700-Kcmastrpc-20240829141000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/September_2024/Participants" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/September 2024/Participants"><b>Sign up here to participate!</b></a></li></ul> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184400-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184400-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184400-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:Yawn" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:Yawn-20240908101300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:Yawn-20240908101300"></span>Talk:Yawn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:Yawn-20240908101300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Talk:Yawn"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikishovel-20240908101300-Talk:Yawn"></span>Many thanks for your quick response on this. I forgot to also request hiding of these revisions: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AYawn&diff=1244651065&oldid=1244646855">[3]</a>, an apparent good faith error on the part of another editor. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Wikishovel" title="User:Wikishovel">Wikishovel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikishovel" title="User talk:Wikishovel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Wikishovel-20240908101300-Talk:Yawn" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikishovel-20240908101300-Talk:Yawn"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikishovel-20240908101300-Talk:Yawn"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240908104100-Wikishovel-20240908101300"></span>I made a mess of that. I still don't know how those bad revision got into <a href="/wiki/Talk:Yawn" title="Talk:Yawn">Talk:Yawn</a> but I think I've got them all now. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240908104100-Wikishovel-20240908101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240908104100-Wikishovel-20240908101300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240908104100-Wikishovel-20240908101300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikishovel-20240908104300-Johnuniq-20240908104100"></span>Yes looks good now, thanks very much. <a href="/wiki/User:Wikishovel" title="User:Wikishovel">Wikishovel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikishovel" title="User talk:Wikishovel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Wikishovel-20240908104300-Johnuniq-20240908104100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikishovel-20240908104300-Johnuniq-20240908104100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikishovel-20240908104300-Johnuniq-20240908104100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits-20240913060600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits-20240913060600"></span>Rapid-fire bogus tagbombing by user with less than 400 edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits-20240913060600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Rapid-fire bogus tagbombing by user with less than 400 edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240913060600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"></span>This user <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Akaibu#">[4]</a> is adding rapid-fire (75+ per day) bogus tags (like the utterly spurious "underlinked") to articles, apparently via scripts he has added to his account. I warned him on his usertalk <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Akaibu&diff=prev&oldid=1245468021">[5]</a> (his last tagging before my warning was on <a href="/wiki/Aelbert_Cuyp" title="Aelbert Cuyp">Aelbert Cuyp</a>). I've reverted about 40 of them over the past 40 minutes, but it's an exhausting ritual (maybe 1% to 5% of his tags are merited) and I'm tired of it. Not sure of the best course of action, but definitely needs eyes and a block if it continues. Plus need more of the tagging reverted/rolled back. Any help appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240913060600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240913060600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240913060600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240913072100-Softlavender-20240913060600"></span>I left a message at their talk and will probably notice any further comments added there. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240913072100-Softlavender-20240913060600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240913072100-Softlavender-20240913060600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240913072100-Softlavender-20240913060600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240913081800-Johnuniq-20240913072100"></span>Thanks. By the by, this rapid-fire 80-edits-per day MO is often standard behavior of someone trying to rapidly achieve EC status, so might take a look at his edits again once he hits 500. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240913081800-Johnuniq-20240913072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240913081800-Johnuniq-20240913072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240913081800-Johnuniq-20240913072100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akaibu-20240913133600-Softlavender-20240913081800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> I will note that this is not an attempt to pad for EC status(if you wish to believe me on that), in fact looking into what EC provides I don't see much reason to shoot for it, except <i>maybe</i> Content Translation, but I'm not currently comfortable adding major content to pages like that. <a href="/wiki/User:Akaibu" title="User:Akaibu">Akaibu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akaibu" title="User talk:Akaibu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Akaibu-20240913133600-Softlavender-20240913081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akaibu-20240913133600-Softlavender-20240913081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akaibu-20240913133600-Softlavender-20240913081800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240914005700-Akaibu-20240913133600"></span>The advice at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#On_tagging" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse#On tagging</a> is good. In brief: improving articles is productive; tagging is not. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240914005700-Akaibu-20240913133600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240914005700-Akaibu-20240913133600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240914005700-Akaibu-20240913133600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Akaibu" title="User:Akaibu"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240914052100-Akaibu-20240913133600"></span>Akaibu</a>, you certainly do not seem to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HERE">here to build an encyclopedia</a>. You're skating on pretty thin ice now that you are continuing to do what you were warned by multiple highly experienced editors plus an administrator not to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240914052100-Akaibu-20240913133600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240914052100-Akaibu-20240913133600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240914052100-Akaibu-20240913133600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240914051600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"></span>Update: That's still all he's doing. I've reverted most of the new ones now, as they were unwarranted. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240914051600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240914051600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240914051600-Rapid-fire_bogus_tagbombing_by_user_with_less_than_400_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240914052800-Softlavender-20240914051600"></span>Blocked for 48 hours with explanation at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akaibu#Tags" title="User talk:Akaibu">User talk:Akaibu#Tags</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240914052800-Softlavender-20240914051600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240914052800-Softlavender-20240914051600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240914052800-Softlavender-20240914051600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240914053400-Johnuniq-20240914052800"></span>Thank you. Right before your block he was EDIT-WARRING over my reverts from today. Clearly this editor is not here to build an encyclopedia. Has the air of a possible LTA. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240914053400-Johnuniq-20240914052800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240914053400-Johnuniq-20240914052800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240914053400-Johnuniq-20240914052800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240914053500-Softlavender-20240914053400"></span>There is probably an essay describing the high correlation between confidence and socking. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240914053500-Softlavender-20240914053400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240914053500-Softlavender-20240914053400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240914053500-Softlavender-20240914053400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content" data-mw-thread-id="h-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content-20240914223200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content-20240914223200"></span>Continuous removal of sourced content<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content-20240914223200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Continuous removal of sourced content"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content"></span>Hi John, please take a look on <a href="/wiki/Chittagonian_language" title="Chittagonian language">Chittagonian language</a>. A user keeps removing its content (even though those content has reliable sources) and keeps adding thier preferred version. The same user did same thing on bnwiki and we reverted their edits. </p><p>I reverted their edit twice here on enwiki & asked the user to stop but the user still doing it. I did not reverted their latest edit as I don't want to get involved in edit wars. </p><p>I think it would be better to restore the last good version until there is a consensus. Could you please help here? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User:আফতাবুজ্জামান">আফতাবুজ্জামান</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User talk:আফতাবুজ্জামান">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200-Continuous_removal_of_sourced_content"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240915023100-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200"></span>I left a warning at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yasarhossain07" title="User talk:Yasarhossain07">User talk:Yasarhossain07</a>. Let me know if it continues but first try to engage with them in discussion on article talk. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240915023100-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240915023100-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240915023100-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20240914223200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peter_Brimelow_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peter_Brimelow_page-20240923033100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peter_Brimelow_page-20240923033100"></span>Peter Brimelow page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peter_Brimelow_page-20240923033100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Peter Brimelow page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cundebuff-20240923033100-Peter_Brimelow_page"></span>Consensus has been reached. Is it possible to remove protection? <a href="/wiki/User:Cundebuff" title="User:Cundebuff">Cundebuff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cundebuff" title="User talk:Cundebuff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Cundebuff-20240923033100-Peter_Brimelow_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cundebuff-20240923033100-Peter_Brimelow_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cundebuff-20240923033100-Peter_Brimelow_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240923035100-Cundebuff-20240923033100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cundebuff" title="User:Cundebuff">Cundebuff</a>:</span> I do not understand because <a href="/wiki/Talk:Peter_Brimelow#Protected" title="Talk:Peter Brimelow">Talk:Peter Brimelow#Protected</a> (added by me) is 5.5 hours after all other comments. Please do not reply here. Instead, comment in that section and quote a few words from the discussion that shows there is a consensus. Also, briefly outline what the consensus is. That is, what change, if any, is proposed? It should be on article talk so others can see it. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240923035100-Cundebuff-20240923033100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:51, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240923035100-Cundebuff-20240923033100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240923035100-Cundebuff-20240923033100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cundebuff-20240923040000-Johnuniq-20240923035100"></span>Ok. Thought it was to be requested here. <a href="/wiki/User:Cundebuff" title="User:Cundebuff">Cundebuff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cundebuff" title="User talk:Cundebuff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Cundebuff-20240923040000-Johnuniq-20240923035100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cundebuff-20240923040000-Johnuniq-20240923035100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cundebuff-20240923040000-Johnuniq-20240923035100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article-20240926103800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article-20240926103800"></span>Locked discussion in Big Pharma Conspiracy article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article-20240926103800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Locked discussion in Big Pharma Conspiracy article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926103800-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article"></span>Dear Johnuiq, </p><p>I have seen you have locked the editing of the discussion: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theories#Article_is_deviating_from_the_origina_of_Big_Pharmy_and_classifies_everything_that_criticizes_%22the%22_Pharma_Industry">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theories#Article_is_deviating_from_the_origina_of_Big_Pharmy_and_classifies_everything_that_criticizes_%22the%22_Pharma_Industry</a> </p><p>I provided sources a bit more into the discussion and we were in the middle of forming a census. </p><p>WP Not a forum does not exist in the <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not</a> article, is the template outdated or was the section renamed? </p><p>I softly added a new section in the discussion/talk page of the article, as recommended by the template. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theories#RFC_/_Improvement_idea,_hatnote,_Big_Pharma_term_in_question,_better_definition_of_the_included_conspiracy_theories">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theories#RFC_/_Improvement_idea,_hatnote,_Big_Pharma_term_in_question,_better_definition_of_the_included_conspiracy_theories</a> </p><p>It is shorter and contains all the necessary sources. </p><p>All the best <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926103800-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926103800-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926103800-Locked_discussion_in_Big_Pharma_Conspiracy_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20240926105600-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a>, Johnuniq provided a link explaining his reason for closing the section, namely <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">WP:NOTFORUM</a>. When people provide links, the idea is that you're supposed to click on them. Please try it (you can just as well click on the link as I give it here). It will take you to the "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion" section of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not</a>. The most relevant part in this context is the last sentence: "article <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk pages</a> should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</a>)". <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Bishonen-20240926105600-HubertSchuf-20240926103800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20240926105600-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20240926105600-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20240926112800-Bishonen-20240926105600"></span>PS, whoops, sorry, my css tend to obscure the top of my screen; I meant to say, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">WP:NOTFORUM</a> takes you to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#not_a_forum" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#not a forum</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Bishonen-20240926112800-Bishonen-20240926105600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>.</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20240926112800-Bishonen-20240926105600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20240926112800-Bishonen-20240926105600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113100-Bishonen-20240926112800"></span>I understood what you meant. Your saying is correct. It leads one to the soapbox or promotional section. But that's why you can't find a "not a forum" section. There's just none. :D <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926113100-Bishonen-20240926112800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113100-Bishonen-20240926112800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113100-Bishonen-20240926112800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926111700-Bishonen-20240926105600"></span>Thank you for being more precise regarding WP:What Wiki is not. As I was unable to find the "WP:NOTFORUM" section in there. A soapbox or means or promotion is something entirely different and from that perspective I understand that it appeared like I would want to convey my singular view on it. However, as it's clearly not the case I rewrote it and reposted it with more focus on my key points and the sources with respect to the improvement of the article (my solely focus). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926111700-Bishonen-20240926105600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926111700-Bishonen-20240926105600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926111700-Bishonen-20240926105600"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240926110000-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"></span>Several people have suggested that there should be more collaboration and less commentary. Unless that happens soon, you are likely to be indefinitely blocked. Wikipedia relies on volunteers who do not have an unlimited supply of time to exchange opinions. Article talk pages are available to discuss actual proposals to improve an article. There can be a certain of blue-sky thought but almost 6000 words in one section with no particular outcome in sight is not sustainable (even the title is too long: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theories#Article_is_deviating_from_the_origina_of_Big_Pharmy_and_classifies_everything_that_criticizes_"the"_Pharma_Industry" title="Talk:Big Pharma conspiracy theories">Talk:Big Pharma conspiracy theories#Article is deviating from the origina of Big Pharmy and classifies everything that criticizes "the" Pharma Industry</a>). Visiting <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTFORUM&redirect=no">WP:NOTFORUM</a></span> shows <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#not_a_forum" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#not a forum</a> which works. Please think carefully before adding commentary to any page and decide whether it would be reasonable to expect others to respond. In particular, think about what outcome you have in mind. You need to either identify an outcome that would improve an article or find another website. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240926110000-HubertSchuf-20240926103800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240926110000-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240926110000-HubertSchuf-20240926103800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926112600-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span>Thanks for your reply.</dd> <dd>I had to repeat my central points with bullet points multiple times as the other party seemingly did not address the core points multiple times, and requested sources for the obvious or unreasonable.</dd> <dd>The WP:Not A Forum link does not work, it's a dead link, as the section does not exist. The # uses HTML anchors and there must be a section with the id element and the same name to work. This is not given. Maybe it was different in the past.</dd> <dd>I understand that the title was perceived as too long and the introductory text to the subsection in the talk/discussion page (the "topic").</dd> <dd>I clearly thought and addressed what I want to be changed and why, that's literally in every of my comments. If it would be considered instead of being ignored then we would get to the expected outcome in a faster time.</dd> <dd>The tone sounds like the opposite of being friendly or inviting. I was told to improve my tone, I did. As far as I know Wiki is a space where we work to improve or create those articles. Threatening to block me for suggesting improvements and contributing sounds very harsh. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926112600-Johnuniq-20240926110000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926112600-Johnuniq-20240926110000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926112600-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span>The old topic's title length is 17 words. Of the new one 16.</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>"the medium length category [...] headlines between 12 and 17 words - is the standout. The average number of words that win is 14, as is the median [being the optima]" </p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://smartocto.com/blog/optimal-number-words-headline/">https://smartocto.com/blog/optimal-number-words-headline/</a></cite></div></blockquote></dd> <dd>Statistically it is within the limits, so I wonder what is "too long". Another page says something about 50-60 characters as metric, of course I am with 115 a "bit" above it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926113700-Johnuniq-20240926110000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926113700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926114700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span>The topic intro was 489 words. 4,559 words were discussion, in which mostly I had to repeat what I want to change as I was asked what I want to change. My longest reply was 259 words, as I went slow and explained everything in good-faith. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HubertSchuf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HubertSchuf (page does not exist)">HubertSchuf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HubertSchuf" title="User talk:HubertSchuf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-HubertSchuf-20240926114700-Johnuniq-20240926110000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HubertSchuf-20240926114700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HubertSchuf-20240926114700-Johnuniq-20240926110000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span>RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span>Hi there! The trial of the <strong>RfA discussion-only period</strong> passed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA2024">WP:RFA2024</a> has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period</a></b>. Cheers, and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_favor_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-A_favor_...-20240928080900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_favor_...-20240928080900"></span>A favor ...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_favor_...-20240928080900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: A favor ..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240928080900-A_favor_..."></span>Could you longterm semi-protect <a href="/wiki/Rory_Cellan-Jones" title="Rory Cellan-Jones">Rory Cellan-Jones</a>? Since September 2023 an IP-hopper or series of IPs has made this exact same deletion <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rory_Cellan-Jones&diff=prev&oldid=1176685606">[6]</a>, even though it now has three citations, including Rory himself stating "I was born out of wedlock" in a 2021 <i>Telegraph</i> article he wrote <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/parenting/clearing-parents-homes-helped-piece-together-missing-past/">[7]</a>. The IP deletions are getting increasingly frequent; now 6 days between them. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240928080900-A_favor_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240928080900-A_favor_..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240928080900-A_favor_..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928090200-Softlavender-20240928080900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a>:</span> Normally, sure, no problem. But I'm reluctant to stop removal of "born out of wedlock" in a BLP, particularly when a quick look failed to find any discussion on article talk or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">WP:BLPN</a> archives. Is an RS asserting that had a significant effect on his life? The "was unacquainted with his father and Cellan Jones half-siblings until adulthood" might be assumed to be relevant as he mentioned that himself in ref 10 but I think some reflection on whether the "wedlock" stuff is really appropriate should occur. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928090200-Softlavender-20240928080900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928090200-Softlavender-20240928080900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928090200-Softlavender-20240928080900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240928092700-Johnuniq-20240928090200"></span>He wrote an entire book about it, and how deeply it affected his life and his mother's life: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=QdzAEAAAQBAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s"><i>Ruskin Park: Sylvia, Me and the BBC</i></a> (2023). I've read the book. He also wrote an article in <i><a href="/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph" title="The Daily Telegraph">The Telegraph</a></i> about it and about the book: title and subtitle = <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/parenting/clearing-parents-homes-helped-piece-together-missing-past/">"Clearing out my parents’ homes helped me piece together my missing past: My parents' love affair was a scandal that defined our lives. Only now, thanks to their belongings, have I learned what really happened"</a>. It's also the reason why he never even met his quite famous father (and half-siblings) until he was 23. If we remove that fact (it's a standard legal term, nothing more), then his never meeting his father until after university makes no sense. Also note that this was 1957, not the 21st century. I have not started a thread on the talkpage because there are three different IPs involved, I can't ping them, and what they are doing is straight-up vandalism and edit-warring. I will start a talkpage thread if you like. <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240928092700-Johnuniq-20240928090200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240928092700-Johnuniq-20240928090200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240928092700-Johnuniq-20240928090200"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928093100-Softlavender-20240928092700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a>:</span> Sorry to be a pain, but please put the above, paraphrased as if directed to passing editors, on article talk. I see a bunch of refs on the statement. If you know which said what, please quote a few words from one of them (or otherwise outline what it says) to support inclusion. Then I'm comfortable with protection. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928093100-Softlavender-20240928092700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928093100-Softlavender-20240928092700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928093100-Softlavender-20240928092700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240928105300-Johnuniq-20240928093100"></span>No worries, that's not an unreasonable request. Done: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Rory_Cellan-Jones#Born_out_of_wedlock" title="Talk:Rory Cellan-Jones">Talk:Rory_Cellan-Jones#Born out of wedlock</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240928105300-Johnuniq-20240928093100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240928105300-Johnuniq-20240928093100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240928105300-Johnuniq-20240928093100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928105900-Softlavender-20240928105300"></span>I semi-protected for a month. Let me know if it continues. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928105900-Softlavender-20240928105300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928105900-Softlavender-20240928105300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928105900-Softlavender-20240928105300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240928111000-Johnuniq-20240928105900"></span>I appreciate that! However, since the IPs have done it four times in the past two months, that's not really "longterm" and I'm fairly doubtful it will help. They switch IPs every month, and have no trouble playing the long game. It is a start, though, so if you don't want to lengthen it now I will let you know when/if it starts back up. My problem is that when I take a wikibreak is often when they do this, so I missed the last deletion by 12 days, which is nearly two weeks the article stayed vandalized and confusing.... <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Softlavender-20240928111000-Johnuniq-20240928105900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240928111000-Johnuniq-20240928105900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240928111000-Johnuniq-20240928105900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240928115100-Softlavender-20240928111000"></span>The problem is that the article has only been protected once before, and that was in April 2007 for five days. Protection is supposed to escalate when evidence of a need for further protection is available. That's what I meant by "Let me know if it continues". <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20240928115100-Softlavender-20240928111000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240928115100-Softlavender-20240928111000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240928115100-Softlavender-20240928111000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diff-20241001002300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diff-20241001002300"></span>Diff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diff-20241001002300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Diff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20241001002300-Diff"></span>Please hide <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aleksandar_%C5%A0api%C4%87&curid=3136849&diff=1248698383&oldid=1248594658">this personal attack</a>. And consider reverting/blocking the IP. Ty. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sadko" title="User:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Sadko</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadko" title="User talk:Sadko"><span style="color: #0c0609;">(words are wind)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sadko-20241001002300-Diff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20241001002300-Diff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20241001002300-Diff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-154.205.128.71-20241001003000-Sadko-20241001002300"></span>What do you want to delete that is written in the source? They will block you again like here <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=1013108504#Request_concerning_Sadko">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=1013108504#Request_concerning_Sadko</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/154.205.128.71" title="Special:Contributions/154.205.128.71">154.205.128.71</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:154.205.128.71" title="User talk:154.205.128.71">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-154.205.128.71-20241001003000-Sadko-20241001002300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-154.205.128.71-20241001003000-Sadko-20241001002300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-154.205.128.71-20241001003000-Sadko-20241001002300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241001013200-Sadko-20241001002300"></span>I removed the edit summary, semi-protected <a href="/wiki/Aleksandar_%C5%A0api%C4%87" title="Aleksandar Šapić">Aleksandar Šapić</a> and warned the IP to use ANI to comment about other editors. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241001013200-Sadko-20241001002300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241001013200-Sadko-20241001002300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241001013200-Sadko-20241001002300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20241001121900-Johnuniq-20241001013200"></span>Ty. kindly. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sadko" title="User:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Sadko</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadko" title="User talk:Sadko"><span style="color: #0c0609;">(words are wind)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sadko-20241001121900-Johnuniq-20241001013200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20241001121900-Johnuniq-20241001013200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20241001121900-Johnuniq-20241001013200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-154.205.128.71-20241001130800-Sadko-20241001121900"></span>This does not mean that you bought an administrator and continue with the Serbian POV pushing for which you were blocked. And I see that you engaged another user from the Serbian Wikipedia, with whom you work together, to change what is written in the source. Do you think that one of the administrators does not know what you are doing?<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/154.205.128.71" title="Special:Contributions/154.205.128.71">154.205.128.71</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:154.205.128.71" title="User talk:154.205.128.71">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-154.205.128.71-20241001130800-Sadko-20241001121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-154.205.128.71-20241001130800-Sadko-20241001121900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-154.205.128.71-20241001130800-Sadko-20241001121900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" 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margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sock_puppetry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sock_puppetry-20241008104100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sock_puppetry-20241008104100"></span>Sock puppetry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sock_puppetry-20241008104100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Sock puppetry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dympies-20241008104100-Sock_puppetry"></span>Sock puppetry is going on at <a href="/wiki/All_India_Anna_Dravida_Munnetra_Kazhagam" title="All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam">All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam</a>. The IP hopper switched to his account once you protected the page<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=All_India_Anna_Dravida_Munnetra_Kazhagam&diff=prev&oldid=1248713798">[8]</a> but now he is back to edit warring with his IPs.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=All_India_Anna_Dravida_Munnetra_Kazhagam&diff=prev&oldid=1250073819">[9]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Dympies" title="User:Dympies">Dympies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dympies" title="User talk:Dympies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Dympies-20241008104100-Sock_puppetry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dympies-20241008104100-Sock_puppetry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dympies-20241008104100-Sock_puppetry"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241009010400-Dympies-20241008104100"></span>I semi-protected it for a month. They are right about at least one thing, namely the change to "October 2024" for when the date formats were checked, assuming they checked them. Please think about their other changes in case they are correct. At any rate, an explanation has to be given on article talk. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241009010400-Dympies-20241008104100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241009010400-Dympies-20241008104100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241009010400-Dympies-20241008104100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism-20241009193400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism-20241009193400"></span>Multiple IPs used for same vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism-20241009193400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Multiple IPs used for same vandalism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241009193400-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism"></span>Please see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Pirates_of_Penzance&curid=46667&action=history">this</a>. Thanks for any help. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241009193400-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241009193400-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241009193400-Multiple_IPs_used_for_same_vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241009222800-Ssilvers-20241009193400"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241009222800-Ssilvers-20241009193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241009222800-Ssilvers-20241009193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241009222800-Ssilvers-20241009193400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241009224000-Ssilvers-20241009193400"></span>I see that person has used a lot of IPs. I only blocked the ranges that have been active in the last week or so. Let me know if they resurface. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241009224000-Ssilvers-20241009193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241009224000-Ssilvers-20241009193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241009224000-Ssilvers-20241009193400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241010011400-Johnuniq-20241009224000"></span>Thanks! Will do. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241010011400-Johnuniq-20241009224000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241010011400-Johnuniq-20241009224000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241010011400-Johnuniq-20241009224000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles-20241013185900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles-20241013185900"></span>Edit warrior on multiple articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles-20241013185900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Edit warrior on multiple articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241013185900-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles"></span>Just coming off a long block, User:197.87.143.164 made 5 reverts in the last day to <a href="/wiki/Peter_Pratt" title="Peter Pratt">Peter Pratt</a>. They are also edit warring at other articles. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241013185900-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241013185900-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241013185900-Edit_warrior_on_multiple_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241014023000-Ssilvers-20241013185900"></span>I'm feeling a bit wimpish and only left a warning. Let me know if <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:197.87.143.164&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:197.87.143.164 (page does not exist)">197.87.143.164</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:197.87.143.164" title="User talk:197.87.143.164">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.87.143.164" title="Special:Contributions/197.87.143.164">contribs</a>) continues with problematic edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241014023000-Ssilvers-20241013185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241014023000-Ssilvers-20241013185900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241014023000-Ssilvers-20241013185900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse" data-mw-thread-id="h-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse-20241017081700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse-20241017081700"></span>IP 51.235.176.151 user talk page abuse<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse-20241017081700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: IP 51.235.176.151 user talk page abuse"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20241017081700-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse"></span>Hi Johnuniq, I think you might want to unplug talk page access for the IP address <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/51.235.176.151" title="Special:Contributions/51.235.176.151">51.235.176.151</a> that you blocked for 6 months earlier this month, as they are playing and mucking around with it, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1251640242/1251652111" title="Special:Diff/1251640242/1251652111">diff</a>. One of their talk page edits actually transcluded another admin's user talk and then removed it, resulting in a "topic X has been archived or removed" notification being sent to me, which is what brought my attention to this. Thanks in advance, — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-AP_499D25-20241017081700-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20241017081700-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20241017081700-IP_51.235.176.151_user_talk_page_abuse"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241017082500-AP_499D25-20241017081700"></span>Thanks, I removed the ability of <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:51.235.176.151&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:51.235.176.151 (page does not exist)">51.235.176.151</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:51.235.176.151" title="User talk:51.235.176.151">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/51.235.176.151" title="Special:Contributions/51.235.176.151">contribs</a>) to edit their talk page while blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241017082500-AP_499D25-20241017081700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241017082500-AP_499D25-20241017081700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241017082500-AP_499D25-20241017081700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_small_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_small_request-20241018123300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_small_request-20241018123300"></span>A small request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_small_request-20241018123300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: A small request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20241018123300-A_small_request"></span>Could you kindly do me a favor and conceal: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Joseph_Boscovich&diff=1249211558&oldid=1249167890">1</a> & <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivan_Gunduli%C4%87&diff=1249208503&oldid=1249206548">2</a>. </p><p>The comments were initially intended to discourage me from making those edits; it's all water under the bridge now. I no longer have <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guerillero/Archives/2024/July#Result_of_the_appeal_by_Sadko_(talk_·_contribs)" title="User talk:Guerillero/Archives/2024/July">restrictions</a> on any subject or area. Ty. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sadko" title="User:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Sadko</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadko" title="User talk:Sadko"><span style="color: #0c0609;">(words are wind)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sadko-20241018123300-A_small_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20241018123300-A_small_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20241018123300-A_small_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241018233300-Sadko-20241018123300"></span>I removed the two edit summaries and have asked at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Miki_Filigranski#Edit_summaries" title="User talk:Miki Filigranski">User talk:Miki Filigranski#Edit summaries</a> that they not be repeated. However, to my mind, the situation is not totally clear and some kind of clarification might be required regarding whether the appeal process was appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241018233300-Sadko-20241018123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241018233300-Sadko-20241018123300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241018233300-Sadko-20241018123300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20241018235200-Johnuniq-20241018233300"></span>I've chosen to appeal to the blocking admin, as it's one of the two options available to me or any user in situations like this. I made sure to read all the rules and guidelines beforehand. They took a reasonable amount of time before making their decision, and it's now been several months, all good. Thank you for taking action and being thorough. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sadko" title="User:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Sadko</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadko" title="User talk:Sadko"><span style="color: #0c0609;">(words are wind)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Sadko-20241018235200-Johnuniq-20241018233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20241018235200-Johnuniq-20241018233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20241018235200-Johnuniq-20241018233300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="UNIFIL" data-mw-thread-id="h-UNIFIL-20241022134000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-UNIFIL-20241022134000"></span>UNIFIL<span data-mw-comment-end="h-UNIFIL-20241022134000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: UNIFIL"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KujKuń-20241022134000-UNIFIL"></span>Good day. Could you please unprotect the page or give me permission to edit the page <a href="/wiki/United_Nations_Interim_Force_in_Lebanon" title="United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon">United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon</a>? </p><p>There is an updated number of UNIFIL troops deployed as of October 20, according to the source <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://unifil.unmissions.org/unifil-troop-contributing-countries">[10]</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KujKu%C5%84&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KujKuń (page does not exist)">KujKuń</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KujKu%C5%84" title="User talk:KujKuń">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-KujKuń-20241022134000-UNIFIL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KujKuń-20241022134000-UNIFIL"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KujKuń-20241022134000-UNIFIL"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241022215600-KujKuń-20241022134000"></span>I have replied at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:KujKu%C5%84#Extended_confirmed_user" title="User talk:KujKuń">User talk:KujKuń#Extended confirmed user</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241022215600-KujKuń-20241022134000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241022215600-KujKuń-20241022134000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241022215600-KujKuń-20241022134000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KujKuń-20241023095700-Johnuniq-20241022215600"></span>I only update the official source of the UNIFIL mission website run by the United Nations. So far, I have only updated the data on the website that is in the article. You can check the edit history. Sometimes, however, I have also updated on other sources, but I did it on official ones, especially on the subject of the Polish military contingent in Lebanon. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KujKu%C5%84&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KujKuń (page does not exist)">KujKuń</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KujKu%C5%84" title="User talk:KujKuń">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-KujKuń-20241023095700-Johnuniq-20241022215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KujKuń-20241023095700-Johnuniq-20241022215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KujKuń-20241023095700-Johnuniq-20241022215600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241023103900-KujKuń-20241023095700"></span>At your talk I made it clear what was needed for me to grant the EC right. I would be reluctant to do that for someone not able to follow what was said. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241023103900-KujKuń-20241023095700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241023103900-KujKuń-20241023095700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241023103900-KujKuń-20241023095700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KujKuń-20241023184800-Johnuniq-20241023103900"></span>This controversial page is about the UN mission page? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KujKu%C5%84&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KujKuń (page does not exist)">KujKuń</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KujKu%C5%84" title="User talk:KujKuń">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-KujKuń-20241023184800-Johnuniq-20241023103900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KujKuń-20241023184800-Johnuniq-20241023103900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KujKuń-20241023184800-Johnuniq-20241023103900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241023235600-KujKuń-20241023184800"></span>I have replied at your talk. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241023235600-KujKuń-20241023184800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241023235600-KujKuń-20241023184800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241023235600-KujKuń-20241023184800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192200-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a> . </p><p>Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192200-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192200-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192200-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IP_edit_warring" data-mw-thread-id="h-IP_edit_warring-20241027034400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IP_edit_warring-20241027034400"></span>IP edit warring<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IP_edit_warring-20241027034400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: IP edit warring"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241027034400-IP_edit_warring"></span>Would you kindly semi-protect <a href="/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables_(musical)" title="Les Misérables (musical)">Les Misérables (musical)</a>? There is a lot of IP edit warring going on. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241027034400-IP_edit_warring" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:44, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241027034400-IP_edit_warring"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241027034400-IP_edit_warring"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241027043900-Ssilvers-20241027034400"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241027043900-Ssilvers-20241027034400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241027043900-Ssilvers-20241027034400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241027043900-Ssilvers-20241027034400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241027052000-Johnuniq-20241027043900"></span>Thanks. Maybe they will come to the talk page, but that plot summary needs to be much shorter, not longer. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241027052000-Johnuniq-20241027043900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241027052000-Johnuniq-20241027043900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241027052000-Johnuniq-20241027043900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?-20241031220900"><span id="Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?-20241031220900"></span>Extreme violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?-20241031220900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Extreme violation of WP:AGF?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241031220900-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?"></span>Am I right that <b><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APacific_Repertory_Theatre&diff=1254620854&oldid=1254608791">this</a></b> was an extreme violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a>? If so, would you kindly caution the user, Melchior? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241031220900-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241031220900-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241031220900-Extreme_violation_of_WP:AGF?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241102012600-Ssilvers-20241031220900"></span>COI editing is a difficult problem and some people get a bit over-the-top in their efforts to control it, as seen here. It seems to be under control. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241102012600-Ssilvers-20241031220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241102012600-Ssilvers-20241031220900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241102012600-Ssilvers-20241031220900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241102025400-Johnuniq-20241102012600"></span>Yes. They are on a vendetta to delete everything the COI person wrote, but they are throwing out the baby with the bath water. They sent a half dozen perfectly good articles to AfD, and they are threatening to delete or merge out three certainly notable arts organizations. And then they throw around accusations at anyone trying to save the content. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241102025400-Johnuniq-20241102012600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241102025400-Johnuniq-20241102012600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241102025400-Johnuniq-20241102012600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241102195200-Ssilvers-20241102025400"></span>This is very distressing. They threatened and badgered one editor who was working on the articles and forced him to withdraw from helping out. See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:4meter4#Please_do_not_allow_others_to_deter_you">this!</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241102195200-Ssilvers-20241102025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241102195200-Ssilvers-20241102025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241102195200-Ssilvers-20241102025400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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<p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <ul><li>Following a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period#Structured_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">discussion</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">discussion-only period</a> proposal that went for a trial to refine the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA">requests for adminship</a> (RfA) process has been discontinued.</li> <li>Following a <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1254983370#Administrator_Recall" title="Special:PermanentLink/1254983370">request for comment</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECALL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECALL">Administrator recall</a> is adopted as a policy.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" 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This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366068" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T366068">T366068</a></li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyberpower678">Cyberpower678</a></span> have been appointed to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Electoral_Commission" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Electoral Commission">Electoral Commission</a> for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024">2024 Arbitration Committee Elections</a>. <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dr_vulpes">Dr vulpes</a></span> are reserve commissioners.</li> <li>Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024">2024 Arbitration Committee elections</a>.</li> <li>The Arbitration Committee is <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1249961616#Call_for_applications:_clerks,_COI_queue,_checkuser,_and_oversight" title="Special:PermanentLink/1249961616">seeking volunteers</a> for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/November_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024">unreferenced articles backlog drive</a> is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Unreferenced" title="Template:Unreferenced">Unreferenced</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. 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I also explained to him on the Talk page why I believe his edit is not encyclopedic and encouraged him to engage there, but instead he just went to the article and reverted again. Can you please try to explain the COI guideline to him? If you look at the beginning of the article, you can see that he was a co-founder of this company, but soon left (apparently under unhappy circumstances). What he is trying to add may be something of interest (presumably about a change in focus between the company's early operating procedure and its later operations), but he does not offer a ref, and his proposed edit appears to add redundant or trivial information. As I said on the Talk page there, if he would explain what he means, I might be able to help him. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241111193500-Edit_warring_COI_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241111193500-Edit_warring_COI_editor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241111193500-Edit_warring_COI_editor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241111233900-Ssilvers-20241111193500"></span>I'm tied up at the moment but will watch the article. He only has five edits and we should be patient and gentle at this stage. Let's see what happens and what proposals for editing occur. Later I might provide links: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REALNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REALNAME">WP:REALNAME</a> + <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241111233900-Ssilvers-20241111193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241111233900-Ssilvers-20241111193500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241111233900-Ssilvers-20241111193500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241111235600-Johnuniq-20241111233900"></span>He's not a paid editor, because he has left the company. But as a co-founder (and trying to add information relevant to himself), he has a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241111235600-Johnuniq-20241111233900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241111235600-Johnuniq-20241111233900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241111235600-Johnuniq-20241111233900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241117215200-Edit_warring_COI_editor"></span>This COI editor reverted again today, <b><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BrainPop&diff=prev&oldid=1257956629">here</a></b>. I reverted and left another warning on their Talk page. I have tried to suggest on the BrainPop Talk page how he can suggest a change on the Talk page, but he continues to ignore that. Can you please try to explain consensus and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> to them? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241117215200-Edit_warring_COI_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241117215200-Edit_warring_COI_editor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241117215200-Edit_warring_COI_editor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241118045900-Ssilvers-20241117215200"></span>I left a message <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kadmonchanan#COI_procedures" title="User talk:Kadmonchanan">here</a> and will watch. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241118045900-Ssilvers-20241117215200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241118045900-Ssilvers-20241117215200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241118045900-Ssilvers-20241117215200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssilvers-20241118051100-Johnuniq-20241118045900"></span>Thank you. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ssilvers" title="User:Ssilvers">Ssilvers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssilvers" title="User talk:Ssilvers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Ssilvers-20241118051100-Johnuniq-20241118045900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssilvers-20241118051100-Johnuniq-20241118045900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssilvers-20241118051100-Johnuniq-20241118045900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism-20241114072900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism-20241114072900"></span>Vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism-20241114072900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Vandalism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aybeg-20241114072900-Vandalism"></span>Hi. Please take <a href="/wiki/Yeni_Akit" title="Yeni Akit">this article</a> under protection. Someone is trying to modify this article with IP addresses and different sockpuppet user accounts. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aybeg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aybeg (page does not exist)">Aybeg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aybeg" title="User talk:Aybeg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Aybeg-20241114072900-Vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aybeg-20241114072900-Vandalism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aybeg-20241114072900-Vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241114073400-Aybeg-20241114072900"></span>Done but please try to engage with the IP and use article talk to explain the problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241114073400-Aybeg-20241114072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241114073400-Aybeg-20241114072900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241114073400-Aybeg-20241114072900"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf-20241114084700-Vandalism"></span>You have been lied to by the wikipedia article destroyer with his biased behavior. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aybeg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aybeg (page does not exist)">you</a> are really cunning to ruin wikipedia articles with your personal political views. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf (page does not exist)">3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf" title="User talk:3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf-20241114084700-Vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf-20241114084700-Vandalism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf-20241114084700-Vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241114085400-3ffe.1900.4545.3.200.f8ff.fe21.67cf-20241114084700"></span>Please discuss article content at the relevant talk page: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Yeni_Akit" title="Talk:Yeni Akit">Talk:Yeni Akit</a>. Do not talk about other editors. Instead, briefly explain what article content should be changed and why. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001700-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001700-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001700-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please-20241122014400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please-20241122014400"></span>Would you mind intervening again please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please-20241122014400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Would you mind intervening again please"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADavid_Eppstein&diff=1258864271&oldid=1258861558"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20241122014400-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please"></span>this diff</a> refers, unless you have done so already or someone else has 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Timtrent-20241122014400-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20241122014400-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20241122014400-Would_you_mind_intervening_again_please"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241122014600-Timtrent-20241122014400"></span>I have handled that and given a final warning. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241122014600-Timtrent-20241122014400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241122014600-Timtrent-20241122014400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241122014600-Timtrent-20241122014400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20241122014800-Johnuniq-20241122014600"></span>Thank you. I had previously made an AIV report, but there is some reasonable reluctance based on the wider issues this editor presents. They have found an unpleasant way of attacking the editor who took them to what is now a very large COIN discussion. 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Timtrent-20241122014800-Johnuniq-20241122014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20241122014800-Johnuniq-20241122014600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20241122014800-Johnuniq-20241122014600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="code_review_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-code_review_request-20241124181800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-code_review_request-20241124181800"></span>code review request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-code_review_request-20241124181800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: code review request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800-code_review_request"></span>Hi John, long time ago you helped me to create <a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%B0" class="extiw" title="bn:Module:এর">bn:Module:এর</a> (<a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Johnuniq/adjust" class="extiw" title="bn:user:Johnuniq/adjust">bn:user:Johnuniq/adjust</a>). This module is now used in 200K+ pages. </p><p>Recently a user suggested some changes. As I don't understand how the module code works, and since it has been used on many pages, could you please review it? The changes is <a class="external text" href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%B2%3A%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%B0%2F%E0%A6%96%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%98%E0%A6%B0&diff=7758262&oldid=2785231">here</a> (Currently the module doesn't work with {{fix|[[some text]]}}, I believe the user is trying to fix that). Before implementing the changes, I would like to know if the existing codes will continue to work. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User:আফতাবুজ্জামান">আফতাবুজ্জামান</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User talk:আফতাবুজ্জামান">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800-code_review_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800-code_review_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800-code_review_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241125042500-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User:আফতাবুজ্জামান">আফতাবুজ্জামান</a>: I gave up trying to understand <a href="/wiki/Module:Arguments" title="Module:Arguments">Module:Arguments</a> years ago and I don't know why it would be wanted. However, it should work. The haslink function could be replaced by checking the count value returned by gsub, but that does not matter. I believe you have templates that call function fix and modules which call function _fix. The proposed change in the sandbox only affects fix. Something more would be needed if the same change was wanted when called by modules. I think the proposed change is good. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241125042500-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241125042500-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241125042500-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241124181800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800-Johnuniq-20241125042500"></span>The user made some changes to fix the issue you described. <a class="external text" href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%B2%3A%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%B0%2F%E0%A6%96%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%98%E0%A6%B0&diff=7760327&oldid=2785231">Here is all the changes</a>. Please review it again (whether the code is good to implement or not). If any improvement can be made, please don't hesitate to edit the sandbox <a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%B0/%E0%A6%96%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%98%E0%A6%B0" class="extiw" title="bn:Module:এর/খেলাঘর">bn:Module:এর/খেলাঘর</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User:আফতাবুজ্জামান">আফতাবুজ্জামান</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8" title="User talk:আফতাবুজ্জামান">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800-Johnuniq-20241125042500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800-Johnuniq-20241125042500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800-Johnuniq-20241125042500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241127051800-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800"></span>I don't have any thinking time at the moment. I will look in a couple of days. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241127051800-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241127051800-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241127051800-আফতাবুজ্জামান-20241126154800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?-20241125195700"><span id="Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?-20241125195700"></span>Does Mehmet Oz need semi protection?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?-20241125195700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Does Mehmet Oz need semi protection?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20241125195700-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?"></span>I can do that. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Doug_Weller-20241125195700-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20241125195700-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20241125195700-Does_Mehmet_Oz_need_semi_protection?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20241125210500-Doug_Weller-20241125195700"></span>But not tonight Lights out soon. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Doug_Weller-20241125210500-Doug_Weller-20241125195700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20241125210500-Doug_Weller-20241125195700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20241125210500-Doug_Weller-20241125195700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241125220700-Doug_Weller-20241125210500"></span>Your block of the IP has been enough for now. I followed a link and noticed the typo that I fixed but haven't paid attention to <a href="/wiki/Mehmet_Oz" title="Mehmet Oz">Mehmet Oz</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241125220700-Doug_Weller-20241125210500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241125220700-Doug_Weller-20241125210500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241125220700-Doug_Weller-20241125210500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandalism_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism_again-20241127082200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism_again-20241127082200"></span>Vandalism again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism_again-20241127082200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Vandalism again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aybeg-20241127082200-Vandalism_again"></span>A user under various names (for example: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rotertruthahn">see</a>) and IP addresses vandalize some articles because of his subjective point of view. His acts are against <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Natural_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Natural point of view">WP:NPOV</a>. Please protect the articles he has vandalized and block his username and IPs. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aybeg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aybeg (page does not exist)">Aybeg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aybeg" title="User talk:Aybeg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Aybeg-20241127082200-Vandalism_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aybeg-20241127082200-Vandalism_again"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aybeg-20241127082200-Vandalism_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241127100700-Aybeg-20241127082200"></span>Sorry but I know nothing about the topic and I do not see any edits that fit Wikipedia's definition of vandalism, namely <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">WP:VAND</a>. Please start a discussion on an article talk page and try to engage others with whatever the issue is. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241127100700-Aybeg-20241127082200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241127100700-Aybeg-20241127082200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241127100700-Aybeg-20241127082200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aybeg-20241127131100-Johnuniq-20241127100700"></span>Honorifics violates neutral point of view. Some users try to vandalize the articles due to their religious beliefs. Muslims try to add honorifics for Muhammad. "ﷺ" is one of them. A current example is <a href="/wiki/Literature_of_Kashmir" title="Literature of Kashmir">Literature of Kashmir</a>. Please protect this article too. (I can start a topic but the rule is certain.) Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aybeg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aybeg (page does not exist)">Aybeg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aybeg" title="User talk:Aybeg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Aybeg-20241127131100-Johnuniq-20241127100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aybeg-20241127131100-Johnuniq-20241127100700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aybeg-20241127131100-Johnuniq-20241127100700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20241127232600-Aybeg-20241127131100"></span>The issue needs to be politely explained to the editor in question. Everyone needs to help doing that rather than relying on a handful of admins. At any rate, adding honorifics is definitely not what is referred to as vandalism at Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq#c-Johnuniq-20241127232600-Aybeg-20241127131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241127232600-Aybeg-20241127131100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241127232600-Aybeg-20241127131100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&oldid=1259947460">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&oldid=1259947460</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 23:26<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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