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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg/435px-Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg/580px-Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3409" data-file-height="2557"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#22_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>You may remember <a href="/wiki/Maryvonne_Le_Diz%C3%A8s" title="Maryvonne Le Dizès">Maryvonne Le Dizès</a>, my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#3_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> as <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#28_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">on 28 August</a>. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Some_September_music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">Some September music</a> was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with <a href="/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Ligeti" title="György Ligeti">Ligeti</a> mentioned in story and music. - I don't know why <a href="/wiki/Herr_Gott,_dich_loben_alle_wir,_BWV_130" title="Herr Gott, dich loben alle wir, BWV 130">BWV 130</a> was approved as GA, but has no icon in the article and no credit, - perhaps related to the above? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120100-October_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120100-October_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003120100","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120100-October_music","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120100-October_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011065500-October_music"></span>Thank you today for <a href="/wiki/Tomorrow_Speculative_Fiction" title="Tomorrow Speculative Fiction">Tomorrow Speculative Fiction</a>, "about a science fiction magazine edited by Algis Budrys in the 1990s. It began as a print magazine and was one of the first to attempt the migration to an online format, but Budrys could not get enough subscribers to make the magazine profitable. It was never a major force in the genre, but it published material by some well known writers, including Ursula Le Guin and Harlan Ellison."! - I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011065500-October_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011065500-October_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011065500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011065500-October_music","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011065500-October_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134300-October_music"></span>I made Leif Segerstam my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#16_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">big</a> story today. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134300-October_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134300-October_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016134300","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134300-October_music","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134300-October_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100-October_music"></span>According to the GA review and the talk page, <a href="/wiki/Was_Gott_tut,_das_ist_wohlgetan,_BWV_99" title="Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan, BWV 99">Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan, BWV 99</a> became GA today, but not for the list and the article and the credit. Bot or something else missing? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100-October_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100-October_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028213100","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100-October_music","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100-October_music"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100"></span>It can take a day or two for the new GAs to show up in the stats. If it's not there in a couple of days, let me know and I'll take a look. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028220500","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500","c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241028220500-Gerda_Arendt-20241028213100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"></span>Good to know, thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028223200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241028223200-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"></span>Someone added the icon manually, and I just added it to the list. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030101400","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400-Mike_Christie-20241028220500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400"></span>I misunderstood what you were asking about -- the bot never adds the article to the list; that always has to be done by the reviewer. It should add the icon, but I think what probably happened is that the bot stopped partway through a run. If the system gets busy, it can refuse to let the bot continue. The bot is written to try to pick up where it left off when this happens, but it doesn't handle every possible case. If you see that happen again, once the bot runs and doesn't add the icon, then you can be sure it isn't going to try again and you can just add it yourself. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030102200","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200","c-Gerda_Arendt-20241031160900-Mike_Christie-20241030102200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241030102200-Gerda_Arendt-20241030101400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200"></span>thank you, always learning! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030103800","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030103800-Mike_Christie-20241030102200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241031160900-Mike_Christie-20241030102200"></span>Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#rich_day" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">richer</a>. 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I can't say I remember off the top of my head the culture six years ago, and we have tightened up on reviewing reviews over the past few years, but checklists reviews have been discouraged since at least 30 March 2007<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reviewing_good_articles&amp;oldid=119056690">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200-Checklist_reviews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200-Checklist_reviews"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028095200","author":"Chipmunkdavis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200-Checklist_reviews","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200"],"displayName":"CMD"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200-Checklist_reviews"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200"></span>Thanks -- I should have been more careful, and of course it's too late to change my comment since the discussion phase has closed. I have the impression that the last few years have seen more discussion about tightening up standards than before -- DCGAR for instance alarmed many of us. But next time I make a comment like that I'll try to be more precise. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028114200","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200","replies":["c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241028114200-Chipmunkdavis-20241028095200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200"></span>Oh no need to change, just noting as I came across it for the future. I'm still a bit sad about DCGAR. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028150300","author":"Chipmunkdavis","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300"],"displayName":"CMD"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300-Mike_Christie-20241028114200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300"></span>Yes. I actually lost sleep over it at the time, thinking about how overwhelmingly hostile it must have felt to Doug, who had put so many hours into those articles. The saddest part to me was that he really seemed genuinely unable to see what the problem was. I don't think he could ever have been one of our best content contributors, but there was a place for someone willing to work that hard and read old sources, if he'd understood how to make the work he liked doing fit with the project's goals. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028151400","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300","replies":["c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241028151400-Chipmunkdavis-20241028150300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400"></span>I was not a fan of the process, but I wasn't able to come up with an effective alternative path, and I suppose no-one else could either. Relatedly, feel a bit down about the current GAN drive. I reviewed two, and ended up failing both. Not the ratio I hope for. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028155600","author":"Chipmunkdavis","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400","replies":[],"displayName":"CMD"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241028155600-Mike_Christie-20241028151400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Moonreach-20241030185900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Planet Stories cover&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Planet Stories cover&quot;}--><h2 id="Planet_Stories_cover" data-mw-thread-id="h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900"></span>Planet Stories cover<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Planet Stories cover"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moonreach-20241030185900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900","replies":["c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100","timestamp":"20241030193400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Moonreach-20241030185900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Planet_Stories_cover-20241030185900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Planet Stories cover&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Planet Stories cover&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover"></span>Hi Mike. I added the Planet Stories cover to the Planet Stories article because I'm trying to get it promoted as a featured image over at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FPC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FPC">WP:FPC</a> (you can see its nomination <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Planet_Stories_cover,_1940" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Planet Stories cover, 1940">here</a>) and a couple of people have said they'll support it only if it's in the Planet Stories article. I think your point about sandwiching is fair, but is there someplace else in the article it could go? It's by far the highest-resolution copy of a Planet Stories issue we have. My first instinct was actually to replace the article header image, but since it's a Featured Article I thought that might cause umbrage. <a href="/wiki/User:Moonreach" title="User:Moonreach">Moonreach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonreach" title="User talk:Moonreach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030185900","author":"Moonreach","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moonreach-20241030185900-Planet_Stories_cover"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900"></span>I think that's an unnecessary requirement -- it's easily possible to imagine a set of top quality images all suitable for an article to small to include them. And it presumes that the image has no value to a reader unless it's in an article, which is not true. Anyway, why don't you replace the Ingels image with the new one? That one is already in Ingels' article and is more of interest to comic aficionados than pulp readers. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030191100","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900","replies":["c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241030191100-Moonreach-20241030185900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100"></span>I'm with you on the idea of merit existing outside of context, but I'm trying to please people who are on the fence. I'll replace the Ingels image, thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Moonreach" title="User:Moonreach">Moonreach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonreach" title="User talk:Moonreach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030193400","author":"Moonreach","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moonreach-20241030193400-Mike_Christie-20241030191100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241112124900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Books_&amp;_Bytes_\u2013_Issue_65-20241112124900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241112124900-Books_&amp;_Bytes_\u2013_Issue_65&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Books &amp; 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You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/962595?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004000-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004000-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113004000","author":"BGerdemann (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004000-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004000-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Your_bot-20241114035200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Your bot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Your bot&quot;}--><h2 id="Your_bot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_bot-20241114035200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_bot-20241114035200"></span>Your bot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_bot-20241114035200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Your bot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_bot-20241114035200","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300","timestamp":"20241115231000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Your_bot-20241114035200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Your bot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Your bot&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot"></span>Your bot account just posted a GA review notice on a <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sir_MemeGod" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sir MemeGod">redirect page</a>; I’ve moved it to the correct page. Might suggest reprogramming it so it doesn’t post to redirects?? <a href="/wiki/User:Hurricane_Clyde" title="User:Hurricane Clyde"><span style="color: Green;"><b>Hurricane Clyde</b> 🌀</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hurricane_Clyde" title="User talk:Hurricane Clyde"><span style="color: Blue;"><i>my talk page!</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114035200","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200-Your_bot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200"></span>Thanks, I'll look into doing that. <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5">EF5</a>, see above -- do you want me to move your GA statistics under your old username to your new name? <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114094800","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200","replies":["c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241114094800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241114035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800"></span>Sure. <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>E</b></span></a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:EF5" title="User talk:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>F</b></span></a></sub><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/EF5" title="Special:Contributions/EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>5</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241115184300","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300"],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EF5-20241115184300-Mike_Christie-20241114094800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300"></span>Done. The next time the stats update they should show your new name instead of the old one. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241115231000","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241115231000-EF5-20241115184300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","timestamp":"20241119001300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Z1720" title="User talk:Z1720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Z1720-20241119012200-Good_article_reassessment_for_Martha_Hughes_Cannon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Z1720-20241119012200-Good_article_reassessment_for_Martha_Hughes_Cannon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119012200","author":"Z1720","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Z1720-20241119012200-Good_article_reassessment_for_Martha_Hughes_Cannon","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Z1720-20241119012200-Good_article_reassessment_for_Martha_Hughes_Cannon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ChristieBot-20241119122100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot&quot;,&quot;c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ChristieBot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ChristieBot&quot;}--><h2 id="ChristieBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-ChristieBot-20241119122100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ChristieBot-20241119122100"></span>ChristieBot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ChristieBot-20241119122100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: ChristieBot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ChristieBot-20241119122100","replies":["c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot","c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700","timestamp":"20241119170900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ChristieBot-20241119122100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot&quot;,&quot;c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ChristieBot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ChristieBot&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot"></span>Appears to have ceased operations. <a href="/wiki/User:AirshipJungleman29" title="User:AirshipJungleman29">~~ AirshipJungleman29</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AirshipJungleman29" title="User talk:AirshipJungleman29">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119122100","author":"AirshipJungleman29","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100"],"displayName":"~~ AirshipJungleman29"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100-ChristieBot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100"></span>Yes, I see the crashes but can't look at the error file or connect for about eight hours. <a href="/wiki/User:Hawkeye7" title="User:Hawkeye7">Hawkeye7</a>, you were kind enough to post the tail of christiebot-gan.err for me a while back, can you (or any TPS with toolforge access) do so again? The tool is called ganfilter. If we're lucky it'll be a malformed GAN template that is causing the crash, meaning it can be fixed without waiting for me to connect to toolforge tonight. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119134500","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241119134500-AirshipJungleman29-20241119122100"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Extended content</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <dl><dd><dl><dd>From christiebot-gan.err:</dd> <dd><code></code></dd><code> <dd>Password for user ChristieBot on wikipedia:en (no characters will be shown): Warning: Password input may be echoed.</dd> <dd>Traceback (most recent call last):</dd> <dd>File "/usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py", line 69, in unix_getpass</dd> <dd>old = termios.tcgetattr(fd) # a copy to save</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>termios.error: (25, 'Inappropriate ioctl for device')</dd> <dd>During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:</dd> <dd>Traceback (most recent call last):</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/src/GANbot.py", line 69, in &lt;module></dd> <dd>GAN.clear_errors()</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/src/GA.py", line 2295, in clear_errors</dd> <dd>page.save("Clearing errors at start of run")</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/page/_basepage.py", line 1276, in save</dd> <dd>self._save(summary=summary, watch=watch, minor=minor, botflag=botflag,</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/page/_decorators.py", line 55, in wrapper</dd> <dd>handle(func, self, *args, **kwargs)</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/page/_decorators.py", line 35, in handle</dd> <dd>func(self, *args, **kwargs)</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/page/_basepage.py", line 1288, in _save</dd> <dd>done = self.site.editpage(self, summary=summary, minor=minor,</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/site/_decorators.py", line 86, in callee</dd> <dd>return fn(self, *args, **kwargs)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/site/_apisite.py", line 2062, in editpage</dd> <dd>token = self.tokens['csrf']</dd> <dd>17:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)17:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)~^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/site/_tokenwallet.py", line 39, in __getitem__</dd> <dd>self.site.login()</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/site/_apisite.py", line 434, in login</dd> <dd>if login_manager.login(retry=True, autocreate=autocreate):</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/login.py", line 287, in login</dd> <dd>self.password = pywikibot.input(</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/bot.py", line 529, in wrapper</dd> <dd>return function(*args, **kwargs)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/bot.py", line 548, in input</dd> <dd>return ui.input(question, password=password, default=default, force=force)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/userinterfaces/terminal_interface_base.py", line 391, in input</dd> <dd>text = self._input_reraise_cntl_c(password)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/data/project/ganfilter/www/python/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pywikibot/userinterfaces/terminal_interface_base.py", line 409, in _input_reraise_cntl_c</dd> <dd>text = getpass.getpass(<i>)</i></dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py", line 91, in unix_getpass</dd> <dd>passwd = fallback_getpass(prompt, stream)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py", line 126, in fallback_getpass</dd> <dd>return _raw_input(prompt, stream)</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>File "/usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py", line 148, in _raw_input</dd> <dd>raise EOFError</dd> <dd>EOFError</dd> <dd>WARNING: /usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py:91: GetPassWarning: Can not control echo on the terminal.</dd> <dd>passwd = fallback_getpass(prompt, stream)</dd> <dd>CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception EOFError:</dd> <dd>Password for user ChristieBot on wikipedia:en (no characters will be shown): Warning: Password input may be echoed.</dd> <dd>Traceback (most recent call last):</dd> <dd>File "/usr/lib/python3.11/getpass.py", line 69, in unix_getpass</dd> <dd>old = termios.tcgetattr(fd) # a copy to save</dd> <dd>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</dd> <dd>termios.error: (25, 'Inappropriate ioctl for device')</dd> </code><dd><code></code></dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The part from "During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred" then repeats over and over. <a href="/wiki/User:Hawkeye7" title="User:Hawkeye7"><span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hawkeye7" title="User talk:Hawkeye7"><span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119170700","author":"Hawkeye7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hawkeye7-20241119170700-ChristieBot"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700"></span>Thanks, Hawkeye; I will have to look at this tonight. I've no idea what's causing this. I will probably have to post to VPT to see if anyone knows if something has changed in the environment. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119170900","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241119170900-Hawkeye7-20241119170700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ca-20241121051000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Charles Brenton Fisk&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Charles Brenton Fisk&quot;}--><h2 id="Charles_Brenton_Fisk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000"></span><a href="/wiki/Charles_Brenton_Fisk" title="Charles Brenton Fisk">Charles Brenton Fisk</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Charles Brenton Fisk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ca-20241121051000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000","replies":["c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000","timestamp":"20241121112000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ca-20241121051000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Charles_Brenton_Fisk-20241121051000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Charles Brenton Fisk&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Charles Brenton Fisk&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk"></span>Hello, a year ago you reviewed my article <a href="/wiki/Charles_Brenton_Fisk" title="Charles Brenton Fisk">Charles Brenton Fisk</a>. Since then, my English has improved, and, per the review, I copyedited the article heavily, as well as performing spotchecks. Accordingly, I have resubmitted it for GA review. In addition, your feedback was helpful on writing another article of mine, which became my first Good Article. This is more of a note on re-submission than a request for review, though I would still certainly appreciate it if you reviewed it. Much thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Ca" title="User:Ca">Ca</a> <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ca" title="User talk:Ca">talk to me!</a></sup></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121051000","author":"Ca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk","replies":["c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ca-20241121051000-Charles_Brenton_Fisk"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000"></span>Congratulations on getting your first GA promoted! I am busy at the moment and not currently doing GA reviews, but when I do start doing them again I'll have a look to see if your nomination is still waiting for review. Good luck with it. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie" title="User:Mike Christie">Mike Christie</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie" title="Special:Contributions/Mike Christie">contribs</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Christie/Reference_library" title="User:Mike Christie/Reference library">library</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121112000","author":"Mike Christie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Christie-20241121112000-Ca-20241121051000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SchroCat-20241122113000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Freston causewayed enclosure scheduled for TFA&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Freston causewayed enclosure scheduled for TFA&quot;}--><h2 id="Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000"></span><a href="/wiki/Freston_causewayed_enclosure" title="Freston causewayed enclosure">Freston causewayed enclosure</a> scheduled for TFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Christie&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Freston causewayed enclosure scheduled for TFA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SchroCat-20241122113000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000","replies":["c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA","timestamp":"20241122113000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SchroCat-20241122113000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA-20241122113000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Freston causewayed enclosure scheduled for TFA&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Freston causewayed enclosure scheduled for TFA&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA"></span>Hi Mike, This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFA">today's featured article</a> for January 2025. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/January_2025" title="Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 2025">Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 2025</a>, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_featured_article/January_2025" title="Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/January 2025">Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/January 2025</a>. Please keep an eye on that page, as notifications of copy edits to or queries about the draft blurb may be left there by <a href="/wiki/User:JennyOz" title="User:JennyOz">user:JennyOz</a>, who assists the coordinators by reviewing the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors" title="Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors">Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors</a> from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks, and congratulations on your work! <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Christie#c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122113000","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20241122113000-Freston_causewayed_enclosure_scheduled_for_TFA"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐7556f8b5dd‐vwcd5 Cached time: 20241122113018 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc, user‐signature] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.025 seconds CPU time usage: 0.140 seconds Real time usage: 0.201 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 575/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 3784/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 349/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 8/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 2283/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.026/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 882747/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 84.919 1 -total 38.97% 33.089 1 Template:User_QAIbox 37.26% 31.639 1 Template:Infobox 18.71% 15.892 1 User:MiszaBot/config 15.44% 13.115 1 Template:Cot 9.58% 8.133 3 Template:Ifsubst 8.29% 7.041 1 Template:Tlx 4.66% 3.955 1 Template:Tl 3.32% 2.821 2 Template:U 2.83% 2.402 2 Template:Arbitration_Committee_candidate/data --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:4782700-0!canonical and timestamp 20241122113018 and revision id 1258925975. 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