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href="#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_GlobalPlatform_has_been_accepted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Your submission at Articles for creation: GlobalPlatform has been accepted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_GlobalPlatform_has_been_accepted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Table" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Table"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Table</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Table-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are_needed" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are_needed"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Wondering when there will be consensus that individual season pages of <i>Bluey</i> are needed</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are_needed-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Approval of Alireza Jadidi(musician) article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> 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href="/wiki/File:Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg/290px-Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg/435px-Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg/580px-Ehrenbach_icicles.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3806" data-file-height="2855" /></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2025#16_Jan" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2025">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>Happy new year 2025, opened with <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#1_Jan" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">trumpet fanfares</a> that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw <a href="/wiki/Christmas_Eve_(opera)" title="Christmas Eve (opera)">a lovely opera</a> by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#14_Dec" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">here</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250101161500-January_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250101161500-January_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250101161500-January_music"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Liebster_Immanuel,_Herzog_der_Frommen,_BWV_123" title="Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250106215300-January_music"></span>Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123</a>, my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. <a href="/wiki/Dada_Masilo" title="Dada Masilo">Dada Masilo</a> will be my story tomorrow. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250106215300-January_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250106215300-January_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250106215300-January_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250108111800-January_music"></span>My <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#8_Jan" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250108111800-January_music" 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href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250114181800-January_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250114181800-January_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250114181800-January_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083000-January_music"></span>Today I had <a href="/wiki/Elgar_Howarth" title="Elgar Howarth">a composer</a> (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Goehr" title="Alexander Goehr">another</a> who just became GA, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083000-January_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083000-January_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083000-January_music"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Society,_sports,_and_culture_request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Society,_sports,_and_culture_request_for_comment-20250103183000"><span id="Feedback_request:_Society.2C_sports.2C_and_culture_request_for_comment"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Society,_sports,_and_culture_request_for_comment-20250103183000"></span>Feedback request: Society, sports, and culture request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Society,_sports,_and_culture_request_for_comment-20250103183000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Society, sports, and culture request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20250103183000-Feedback_request:_Society,_sports,_and_culture_request_for_comment"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Talk:ONE_Championship#rfc_C8DCC54" title="Talk:ONE Championship"><b>Talk:ONE Championship</b> on a "Society, sports, and culture" request for comment</a>. 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Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Naypta-20250104023000-Feedback_request:_Economy,_trade,_and_companies_request_for_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20250104023000-Feedback_request:_Economy,_trade,_and_companies_request_for_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20250104023000-Feedback_request:_Economy,_trade,_and_companies_request_for_comment"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DRN" data-mw-thread-id="h-DRN-20250106184500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DRN-20250106184500"></span>DRN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DRN-20250106184500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: DRN"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500-DRN"></span>Hi Robert, hope you’re doing well. Letting you know that I’ve returned to Wikipedia and I’ll be doing some bits and pieces over at DRN from time to time. I’ve seen a thread about DRN and its effectiveness (closed, since October last year) but it raises some good points that I think should be considered, as our DR processes have changed since I first created DRN 12 years ago. I’d be keen to hear your thoughts too. Speak soon, <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500-DRN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500-DRN"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500-DRN"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108055800-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500"></span>Greetings, <a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin">User:Steven Crossin</a>. I will provide some thoughts about dispute resolution within the next 48 to 72 hours. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250108055800-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108055800-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108055800-Steven_Crossin-20250106184500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Some_Thoughts_on_DRN" data-mw-thread-id="h-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-DRN-20250109213800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-DRN-20250109213800"></span>Some Thoughts on DRN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-DRN-20250109213800"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Some Thoughts on DRN"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN"></span>You, <a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin">User:Steven Crossin</a>, refer to a thread on the effectiveness of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN">DRN</a> that has been closed since October. I assume that you mean a thread at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:DRN">the DRN talk page</a> that was in August, and, two months later, in October, the originator withdrew it. I completely missed it in August, because I wasn't watching the DRN talk page at the time. I probably wouldn't have said anything in defense of the continued existence of DRN that would have added to what was said. The originator provided some interesting statistics, and I think in good faith missed the point in a few ways. He overestimated the community time that was lost on the misplaced filings. More importantly, he assumed that the filers of the misplaced filings would have somehow found more constructive solutions on their own, when we know that many editors, especially new editors, don't have a clue what to do about a dispute, and can use advice, and he failed to attach value to having a place for volunteers to give advice. I think that one effect of a proposed shutdown of DRN that was not mentioned is that more disputes would go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> as a place of first resort, if DRN was eliminated as a place of first resort. Some of those disputes might then go to article talk pages, Wikiprojects, or RFCs, but there would be hard feelings from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> thread. I don't think that the originator thought his idea through. </p><p>I think that one change to DRN could be to recognize that it has at least two functions in dispute resolution. The first should be as a help desk for advice and possibly quick assistance in answering where to take disputes. The second would be for mediation. The current description of DRN is that it is an informal place that is an early stop in disputes. What other than RFC, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, and ArbCom are later stops? When DRN was established, there was MEDCOM. Was there also MEDCAB, or did DRN follow the dissolution of MEDCAB? </p><p>Some of the disputes that we listed as closed because they belonged somewhere else may be successes if we think that directing a user to the right place is a success. </p><p>What else did you have in mind as the changes that you say there have been in dispute resolution since DRN was created? </p><p>I will have more comments, but I think that I should post these now so as to ask you to explain which changes in dispute resolution you were thinking about, and whether you have any specific ideas. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800"></span>So, I've given this a lot of thought over the past few days, and talked about this with quite a few people to get their thoughts on the current state of DRN, and of dispute resolution in general. I'll go in a little bit of a random order to address your thoughts, as I think we are aligned in some ways on how DRN should operate, but vary on perhaps our approach. So, let me give you my (somewhat unstructured thoughts). Way back when in 2011 when I created DRN, it was really designed as a 3O+ - handle content disputes in a relatively lightweight fashion with minimal structure or bureaucracy, and acknowledged the fact that existing dispute resolution processes at the time (which were predominantly MedCab, which I closed after DRN was created and effective), and MedCom (which closed much later) usually had one DR volunteer to many involved editors, which could cause mediator burnout (it required focus from one person over an extended period of time). By creating a relatively unstructured noticeboard (as other noticeboards are), it would allow a many-to-many relationship between dispute resolution volunteers and editors, reducing this burnout and aiding prompt resolution. To me, dispute resolution on Wikipedia made sense where disputes had somewhere else to go other than DRN (and not just RFC, and I'll get to my thoughts on that shortly). By having MedCab and MedCom closed, DRN has morphed into a one-stop shop for most content disputes, which is not what it was intended to be (the Autism dispute currently open is a prime example). So now, I consider what's working well at DRN and what I think needs to be improved. DRN 100% should remain a noticeboard that we can direct issues to more suitable forums (in a way, act as triage/traffic control), but in my view, with a less strict adherence to rules than is done presently - the overarching idea behind DRN was to keep it lightweight and super informal. I've mediated some disputes where I have found putting in ground rules and structuring conversations is beneficial, but this is something I've evaluated on a case basis rather than a universal approach. An example of a dispute where I took this approach <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&oldid=907127656#William_Lane_Craig">is here</a>, and while it did spin off to a <a href="/wiki/Talk:William_Lane_Craig/Mediation" title="Talk:William Lane Craig/Mediation">talk page mediation</a>, I found that the approach I took garnered a fair bit of success, and I relied on overseeing the conversation and steering it was more effective than breaking up conversations into sections and largely restricting users to their own section (e.g. like ArbCom).</dd> <dd>Now, the question in some degree becomes, what is the impact that happens due to this structure. Reflecting on my original design of DRN, and myself as a DR volunteer, I take the Autism dispute as an example, and due to all the conversation being in sections, I can't actually follow the conversation between editors, and that makes it challenging for me as a volunteer to provide additional assistance to the dispute. I'd like to discuss the idea working with you to return DRN to it's original style, and see if that has an impact on the volunteering effort. I'd also like to discuss the use of the term "moderator" as I think what we historically do at DRN is more in line with "mediation" which is a little more involved in shaping the conversation where traditionally, moderation is more about enforcing rules than leading the conversation. I'm also considering reopening MedCab, and referring larger disputes there. Let me know your thoughts - as our main volunteer to DRN, I'm keen to have an open conversation with you on how we can improve our processes. If you're interested in having a chat via email or Discord, I'm happy to do so as well, but of course also happy to chat here. Speak soon, <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500-Robert_McClenon-20250109213800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116184000-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500"></span>Hi Robert, just following up the message above. If you’d rather not discuss the above, that’s fine too, just let me know. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250116184000-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116184000-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116184000-Steven_Crossin-20250114050500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Wait_Until_21_January" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wait_Until_21_January-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-20250116191300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wait_Until_21_January-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-20250116191300"></span>Wait Until 21 January<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wait_Until_21_January-Some_Thoughts_on_DRN-20250116191300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Wait Until 21 January"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300-Wait_Until_21_January"></span>User:Steven Crossin</a> - I will reply in more depth no later than 22 January 2025. I have two higher priorities at this time. The first is unpacking all of my household goods in a new townhouse (well, new for me). The second is writing about the national tragedy, to distribute it no later than 19 January 2025, while I know that I still have freedom of expression, and before I have any specific wrongs to comment about. I am not choosing not to discuss. I am choosing to discuss next week. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300-Wait_Until_21_January" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300-Wait_Until_21_January"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300-Wait_Until_21_January"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116195300-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300"></span>No worries at all, we all have busy lives! I moved a couple of years ago and unpacking was a nightmare so I completely get it! I'll await your reply. <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250116195300-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116195300-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250116195300-Robert_McClenon-20250116191300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="A_Few_More_Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Few_More_Comments-DRN-20250122035800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Few_More_Comments-DRN-20250122035800"></span>A Few More Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Few_More_Comments-DRN-20250122035800"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: A Few More Comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122035800-A_Few_More_Comments"></span>User:Steven Crossin</a> - It is now 21 January 2025 in North America. </p><p>My reading of your comments is that you are identifying two main issues. The first has to do with lightweight versus heavier-weight dispute resolution processes. The second has to do with the degree of control exercised by the volunteer. I think that I will focus at this time on lightweight and heavyweight dispute resolution processes, and first will provide some preliminary remarks, and will then say that I think that two tracks for content disputes, a lightweight track and a heavier track, should be defined. </p><p>You mention that you originally started DRN to be a lightweight process, not that much heavier than Third Opinion. I can see that there had been no lightweight process for disputes with more than two editors, or for disputes where one editor disagreed with the Third Opinion. I know from when I worked more Third Opinions than I do now that those cases are eventually resolved as the Third Opinion had been, with or without blood. That is, the outcome on content is almost always consistent with the Third Opinion, and the outcome on conduct depends on whether the editor who is in the minority is reasonable. </p><p>At the time that you created DRN, the only lightweight dispute resolution process was Third Opinion, which was not available if there were already three editors involved, and there were two heavier processes, MedCab and MedCom. I wasn't editing at the time that there was MedCab, so I will try not to say much about it. MedCom was the last step for content disputes, and had some strings attached, such as that it was a self-perpetuating committee, had discretion on what cases to take, and had a provision that its proceedings were sealed. However, it did exist, and so a DRN volunteer who saw that a dispute would not be lightweight could say that it should go to MedCom. </p><p>I recall a few unpleasant persistent disputes that eventually went to ArbCom, including War of the Pacific, and Motorsports. They were small compared to the cases that ArbCom usually handles, but they really did need to go to ArbCom. Sometimes the community can handle otherwise intractable content disputes that are complicated by conduct, and sometimes it can't. That is a reminder that there should be at least one stop for difficult cases before they go to ArbCom. </p><p>I wasn't editing at the time that MedCab went away, and I don't really know why it went away. I was editing actively and working at DRN when MedCom was abolished. I understood the stated reasons why it was abolished, but I disagreed with the conclusion that it should be dissolved, and I never understood the real reason why it was abolished, which I inferred was political. One reason was that they were very few qualified mediators, sometimes only one or two, and the second reason was that there were very few cases going to it. I think that part of the problem was that there were high qualifications for mediators to qualify, and that a solution would have been to expand the panel by accepting more people. So what I don't know is why the proponent of ending MedCom proposed to end it rather than to improve it. </p><p>After MedCom was abolished, I had to handle heavy-duty cases such as the list of Italian political parties, where part of the problem was that anything that was agreeable to one of the parties was unacceptable to the other. Maybe I should have failed that dispute before I did, but at least with that record the community had an easier time deciding what to do, which was to topic-ban both parties. I had to ignore the idea that DRN was for cases that could be resolved in two to three weeks. I thought that those cases would otherwise probably go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, which is the wrong place for content disputes. Sometimes someone takes a look at the dispute, and says, "Content Dispute", which is true, but not helpful unless there is a way to resolve stubborn content disputes. Sometimes someone takes a look at it and sees conduct issues, which there usually also are, and it winds up with sanctions, when it would have been better to focus on the content issue and ignore the conduct. </p><p>Maybe those are preliminary thoughts. The underlying issue is that there are both lightweight content disputes and heavyweight content disputes, and one size fits all is an illusion. We need a variety of procedures for dealing with content disputes. I don't have a strong opinion on whether that means two noticeboards, or one noticeboard with two or more tracks. If you are saying that we should have two tracks somehow, I think I agree. The lightweight track should be volunteer assistance, and the heavier track should usually, but not always, be mediation. The Autism case is an example of a heavy dispute that is not really mediation so much as guided discussion. It doesn't really fit any particular model, and is really something that I thought I should do by ignoring the constraints. </p><p>You also mentioned the possibility of restarting MedCab. If you are saying that DRN can be restored to dealing with lightweight issues, then one of the options should be to decide that the dispute should go to MedCab. I sort of like the idea of DRN being a big tent with various services, including, "MedCab: A Service of DRN", but it can instead be separate. </p><p>So, if you are saying something to the effect that we should have two tracks for dispute resolution, one lightweight and one for longer disputes, I agree. If that isn't what you are saying, then I misunderstood you. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250122035800-A_Few_More_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122035800-A_Few_More_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122035800-A_Few_More_Comments"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500-A_Few_More_Comments"></span>Here is an afterthought. I have no interest in using Discord. I have never used Discord, which I understand is a chat facility, and do not see a need to learn to use it. I am ready to use email, which I have been using for forty years, which is longer than some people have known it existed, but I would prefer to use it only if there is a privacy reason for using it, such as naming names. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500-A_Few_More_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500-A_Few_More_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500-A_Few_More_Comments"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500"></span>Hey Robert, thanks for your reply. It's been a busy few days for me and I'll reply in a random order - no issues in discussing things publicly instead of a forum like Discord/IRC/email - no issues with transparency etc, I personally find sometimes it encourages a quicker discussion and allows us to hash out issues quicker rather than on a talk page (in the past, MedCab had an IRC chat for assisting people who needed some basic DR assistance/advice).</dd> <dd>Now, for the other points, I was the one who pushed to close MedCab (which I was a coordinator of, with <a href="/wiki/User:TransporterMan" title="User:TransporterMan">User:TransporterMan</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">User:Mr. Stradivarius</a> at the time) because the vision was that MedCab was now redundant to DRN (designed for simple, lightweight disputes) and MedCom (complex disputes) - MedCab did both, so we closed it. Then MedCom was closed (which I disagree with, it should have been opened up to the community more and restrictions relaxed a bit, but I digress. I think we'd need to take a two pronged approach here - re-establish MedCab (as honestly, it was far more successful at resolving disputes) and making DRN more lightweight (e.g. more of a lightweight, somewhat guided but freer discussion with less hard rules than a structured approach (that works better I find for more difficult disputes). I think this could have two benefits - a more relaxed, lightweight process could encourage people that might often give 3O to get involved in a 3O+ style process (e.g. how DRN used to be originally) and serve as a training ground for people to get involved in more DR (like MedCab). Having mediation as a process again might interest the former MedCom members that still edit to get involved again, too?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>A few ideas we could look at:</dd></dl> <ol><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests/Guide" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests/Guide">Update the guide to dispute resolution</a> to re-add MedCab (as informal mediation)</li> <li>Peel back the DRN header to make it more lightweight and adjust the request template (it was the one I proposed on the script page you were looking at) - an example is here <a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin/DRNHeader" title="User:Steven Crossin/DRNHeader">User:Steven Crossin/DRNHeader</a> (considering a lot of the information in the DRN header is already in the request form, we may not need it there too).</li> <li>Review when to structure disputes versus a freer discussion - I only say this as a volunteer, that sometimes I would want to help with a mediation at DRN but struggle to read the back and forth, so wonder if this might help others too.</li></ol> <dl><dd>Again, you're one of the few DR volunteers around still and I think with some of the old guard still around and interested in DR again, we could all work together to make changes that would improve dispute resolution across Wikipedia. Let me know your thoughts? <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200-Robert_McClenon-20250122154500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125075700-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"></span>Replied on my talk page, whenever you're ready. <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250125075700-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 25 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125075700-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125075700-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"></span>Hey Robert, I've made a proposal to reopen MedCab, which is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Reviving_/_Reopening_Informal_Mediation_(WP:MEDCAB)" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">here</a>. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 25 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800-Steven_Crossin-20250125024200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250126064100-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800"></span>Hey Robert, just chasing up the proposed revisions I made to the DRN posting template, you mentioned the other day on the MediaWiki talk page that you’d review in a few days, could you have a look into it? I’m thinking shortening the initial editor comments down to 1000 characters and simplifying the section formatting (including the TOC) would be of benefit too? Thanks! <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250126064100-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250126064100-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250126064100-Steven_Crossin-20250125095800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_donation_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_donation_for_you!-20250107001700"><span id="A_donation_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_donation_for_you!-20250107001700"></span>A donation for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_donation_for_you!-20250107001700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: A donation for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tarlby-20250107001700-A_donation_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg/100px-Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg/150px-Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg/200px-Offa_king_of_Mercia_757_793_silver_penny.jpg 2x" data-file-width="361" data-file-height="348" /></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>This cool penny</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for all the work you do at DRN. Here's a penny portraying King <a href="/wiki/Offa_of_Mercia" title="Offa of Mercia">Offa of Mercia</a> as a donation. <a href="/wiki/User:Tarlby" title="User:Tarlby"><span style="color:cyan;font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><i>Tarl</i></span><span style="color:orange;font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><i>by</i></span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tarlby" title="User talk:Tarlby"><i>t</i></a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tarlby" title="Special:Contributions/Tarlby"><i>c</i></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Tarlby-20250107001700-A_donation_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tarlby-20250107001700-A_donation_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tarlby-20250107001700-A_donation_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108060900-Tarlby-20250107001700"></span>A penny from <a href="/wiki/Offa_of_Mercia" title="Offa of Mercia">Offa of Mercia</a> that is authenticated to be approximately 1250 years old and so authentic would be worth far more than a penny. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250108060900-Tarlby-20250107001700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108060900-Tarlby-20250107001700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108060900-Tarlby-20250107001700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_tag-20250108112900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_tag-20250108112900"></span>Merge tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_tag-20250108112900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Merge tag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900-Merge_tag"></span>You have added this to <a href="/wiki/Evan_Funke" title="Evan Funke">Evan Funke</a> but I think that it has been complete. Can you review it or is it okay if I remove it? <a href="/wiki/User:VECCHIASFLOGLINA" title="User:VECCHIASFLOGLINA">VECCHIASFLOGLINA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VECCHIASFLOGLINA" title="User talk:VECCHIASFLOGLINA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900-Merge_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900-Merge_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900-Merge_tag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:VECCHIASFLOGLINA" title="User:VECCHIASFLOGLINA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108221700-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900"></span>User:VECCHIASFLOGLINA</a> - I don't own the merge tag. If you have done the merging, you may use your own judgment in reviewing it and removing the tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250108221700-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108221700-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250108221700-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20250108112900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2-20250109163100"><span id="Feedback_request:_Politics.2C_government.2C_and_law_request_for_comment_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2-20250109163100"></span>Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2-20250109163100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20250109163100-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#rfc_08190DC" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard"><b>Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard</b> on a "Politics, government, and law" request for comment</a>. 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Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Naypta-20250109163100-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20250109163100-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20250109163100-Feedback_request:_Politics,_government,_and_law_request_for_comment_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request-20250113183900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request-20250113183900"></span>Closing a dispute resolution request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request-20250113183900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Closing a dispute resolution request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-188.4.120.7-20250113183900-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request"></span>You closed the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Movement_for_Democracy_(Greece)">request</a> because I submitted it as an ip. Before submitting the motion, I searched to see if it was allowed for ip's to submit motions and found nowhere that it was not allowed. Can you please provide me with the link that confirms that your motion is correct? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.4.120.7" title="Special:Contributions/188.4.120.7">188.4.120.7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:188.4.120.7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:188.4.120.7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-188.4.120.7-20250113183900-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-188.4.120.7-20250113183900-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-188.4.120.7-20250113183900-Closing_a_dispute_resolution_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000-188.4.120.7-20250113183900"></span>I suggest that you provide me with a link that says that I am not allowed to close a DRN request from an unregistered editor with a shifting IP address. It might be easier to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REGISTER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REGISTER">register an account</a>. If you disagree, you can also post an inquiry at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:DRN">the DRN talk page</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPM">Village pump (miscellaneous)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000-188.4.120.7-20250113183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000-188.4.120.7-20250113183900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000-188.4.120.7-20250113183900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-188.4.120.7-20250113200100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"></span>Ιf something is not forbidden, it is allowed. You can't make up new rules yourself. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.4.120.7" title="Special:Contributions/188.4.120.7">188.4.120.7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:188.4.120.7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:188.4.120.7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-188.4.120.7-20250113200100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-188.4.120.7-20250113200100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-188.4.120.7-20250113200100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"></span>Hi Robert, I'm afraid I disagree with your thoughts here, I've commented on the posting at WT:DRN and re-opened the dispute which I will happily handle. <span style="font-family:Verdana"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#078330">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Crossin" title="User talk:Steven Crossin"><span style="color:#27a">Crossin</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN/V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN/V"><span style="color:#d81">Help resolve disputes!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100-Robert_McClenon-20250113191000"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Crossin" title="User:Steven Crossin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250114043100-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100"></span>User:Steven Crossin</a> - Okay. I won't handle the dispute, but if another experienced volunteer is ready to handle it, that is all right. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250114043100-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250114043100-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250114043100-Steven_Crossin-20250114023100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)-20250114055800"><span id="Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:Beuys_.28disambiguation.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)-20250114055800"></span>Your draft article, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Beuys (disambiguation) (page does not exist)">Draft:Beuys (disambiguation)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)-20250114055800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Your draft article, Draft:Beuys (disambiguation)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20250114055800-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/48px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/72px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/96px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello, Robert McClenon. It has been over six months since you last edited the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">Articles for Creation</a> submission or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Drafts" title="Wikipedia:Drafts">draft</a> page you started, "<a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Beuys (disambiguation) (page does not exist)">Beuys</a>". </p><p>In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/G13?withJS=MediaWiki:G13-restore-wizard.js&page=Draft%3ABeuys+%28disambiguation%29">request its undeletion</a>. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. </p><p>Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Liz-20250114055800-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20250114055800-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20250114055800-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Beuys_(disambiguation)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)-20250115222300"><span id="Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_.28activist.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)-20250115222300"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist) (page does not exist)">Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)-20250115222300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20250115222300-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)"></span> Sorry, Robert, but I don't get it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist) (page does not exist)">Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist)</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (page does not exist)">Draft:Caitlin McCarthy</a> <i>is</i> about two different people from opposite sides of the country. I'm not sure why you thought they were the same I don't get the "but there is an article with that title"--sure, but if I (or <a href="/wiki/User:Jamiebuba" title="User:Jamiebuba">User:Jamiebuba</a> decline something, there is no need to even check if there is something in mainspace. In fact, I thought there was some automated thing that checked for that, but it doesn't matter. I guess you're criticizing Jamiebuba and me for that?</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p>That the <i>article</i>, in your opinion, makes some kind of valid claim to notability because it has a filmography (I don't think that it does) is irrelevant here--unless you were <i>really</i> trying to say that because the article is on a notable subject, the draft should be notable as well and should thus be merged. Maybe, but they were on different topics, so when you declined it saying "the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia", that was not correct. Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Drmies-20250115222300-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20250115222300-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20250115222300-Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy_(activist)"></span> </p><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300"></span>User:Drmies</a> - I am not exactly sure what you don't get. I made one mistake, and that was thinking that they were the same person. I think that everything after that follows. I hope that you are not trying to beat me up for having made one mistake. The existing article, in my opinion, does establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACTOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACTOR">acting notabiity</a>. That guideline says that a person may be considered notable if <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions</q>. I saw, and still see, a filmography that lists three underscored films, that is, films that are the subject of articles, and the actress had roles in those films. Since I thought that the subject of the draft was the same person as the subject of the article, I thought that additional information about that person could be merged into her article. That is what I meant. I think that is clear enough. I think it is also clear enough that I made one mistake. I hope that you are not trying to beat me up for having made one mistake. If you think that the actress does not pass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability</a>, you are of course free to nominate her article for deletion, and I will probably !vote Keep, but I don't think that is the issue. I am not sure what you don't get. I am not trying to continue to argue that they are the same person. When you said that they are different people, I agreed with your decline of the draft. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300-1"></span>I did have a question about why you and Jamiebuba either did not notice that there was already an article with that title or did not disambiguate the draft until after I had tagged the draft for merge, but that is a secondary question that I am willing to pass over. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500-Drmies-20250115222300-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20250117200200-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500"></span>Robert: I still don't get why you are questioning anyone's thoughts over the actual actress, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Caitlin_McCarthy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Caitlin McCarthy (page does not exist)">Caitlin McCarthy</a>; they are irrelevant here. I'm not trying to beat anyone up, but you seem to be beating a dead horse. I think that you thought that the other reviewer and I must have seen that article and yet decided to decline the draft, when it seems clear to me that neither I nor the other reviewer saw that article and declined the draft on its own merits, or lack thereof. Nor do I understand all of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation&diff=prev&oldid=1269688059">this message</a>. I didn't see any yellow banner with a message, and I'm assuming that the other editor didn't either. I don't know why that happened, maybe some bit fell over. BTW I agree that a draft with additional information could be merged into an existing article. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Drmies-20250117200200-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20250117200200-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20250117200200-Robert_McClenon-20250116202500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?-20250120070700"><span id="What_counts_as_a_secondary_source.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?-20250120070700"></span>What counts as a secondary source?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?-20250120070700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: What counts as a secondary source?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DareshMohan-20250120070700-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?"></span>Guess: a source not directed to the release of the film such as a part of a book about it. <a href="/wiki/User:DareshMohan" title="User:DareshMohan">DareshMohan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DareshMohan" title="User talk:DareshMohan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-DareshMohan-20250120070700-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DareshMohan-20250120070700-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DareshMohan-20250120070700-What_counts_as_a_secondary_source?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DarsehMohan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DarsehMohan (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122042000-DareshMohan-20250120070700"></span>User:DarsehMohan</a> - Reviews are secondary sources. A newspaper account of production is a secondary source. There is seldom <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIGCOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIGCOV">significant coverage</a> or production itself, although there are often teasers saying that production has started or finished. There are only a few secondary sources about unreleased movies, which is one reason why they very seldom meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFILM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFILM">film notability</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250122042000-DareshMohan-20250120070700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122042000-DareshMohan-20250120070700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250122042000-DareshMohan-20250120070700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Biographies_request_for_comment_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Biographies_request_for_comment_2-20250122233000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Biographies_request_for_comment_2-20250122233000"></span>Feedback request: Biographies request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Biographies_request_for_comment_2-20250122233000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Biographies request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20250122233000-Feedback_request:_Biographies_request_for_comment_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Louise_Glover#rfc_844F802" title="Talk:Louise Glover"><b>Talk:Louise Glover</b> on a "Biographies" request for comment</a>. 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The following remedies have been enacted: </p> <ul><li>All articles whose topic is strictly within the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area shall be extended confirmed protected by default, without requiring prior disruption on the article.</li> <li>AndreJustAndre, BilledMammal, Iskandar323, Levivich, Makeandtoss, Nableezy, Nishidani, and Selfstudier are indefinitely topic banned from the Palestine-Israel conflict, broadly construed. These restrictions may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.</li> <li>Zero0000 is warned for their behavior in the Palestine-Israel topic area, which falls short of the conduct expected of an administrator.</li> <li>Should the Arbitration Committee receive a complaint at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARCA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARCA">WP:ARCA</a> about AndreJustAndre, within 12 months of the conclusion of this case, AndreJustAndre may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict#Word_limits_(discretionary)" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict">WP:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict#Word limits (discretionary)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict#Word_limits_(1,000_words)" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict">WP:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict#Word limits (1,000 words)</a> are both modified to add as a new second sentence to each: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704" /><q class="inline-quote-talk">Citations and quotations (whether from sources, Wikipedia articles, Wikipedia discussions, or elsewhere) do not count toward the word limit.</q></li> <li>Any AE report is limited to a max of two parties: the party being reported, and the filer. If additional editors are to be reported, separate AE reports must be opened for each. AE admins may waive this rule if the particular issue warrants doing so.</li> <li>The community is encouraged to run a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">Request for Comment</a> aimed at better addressing or preventing POV forks, after appropriate workshopping.</li> <li>The Committee recognizes that working at AE can be a thankless and demanding task, especially in the busy PIA topic area. We thus extend our appreciation to the many administrators who have volunteered their time to help out at AE.</li> <li>Editors are reminded that outside actors have a vested interest in this topic area, and might engage in behaviors such as doxxing in an attempt to influence content and editors. The <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Legal/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability/Human_Rights/Digital_Security_Resources" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Human Rights/Digital Security Resources">digital security resources</a> page contains information that may help.</li> <li>Within this topic area, the <b>balanced editing restriction</b> is added as one of the sanctions that may be imposed by an individual administrator or rough consensus of admins at AE. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style></li></ul> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Details of the balanced editing restriction</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <dl><dd><ul><li>In a given 30-day period, a user under this restriction is limited to making no more than one-third of their edits in the Article, Talk, Draft, and Draft talk namespaces to pages that are subject to the extended-confirmed restriction under Arab–Israeli conflict contentious topic procedures. <ul><li>This will be determined by an edit filter that tracks edits to pages in these namespaces that are extended confirmed protected, or are talk pages of such pages, and are tagged with templates to be designated by the arbitration clerks. Admins are encouraged to apply these templates when protecting a page, and the clerks may use scripts or bots to add these templates to pages where the protection has been correctly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AELOG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AELOG">logged</a>, and may make any necessary changes in the technical implementation of this remedy in the future.</li> <li>Making an edit in excess of this restriction, as determined at the time the edit is made, should be treated as if it were a topic ban violation. Admins should note that a restricted user effectively cannot violate the terms of this and above clauses until at least 30 days after the sanction has been imposed.</li></ul></li> <li>They are topic banned from the Arab–Israeli conflict, broadly construed, in all namespaces other than these four (except for their own userspace and user talkspace).</li> <li>This sanction is not subject to the normal standards of evidence for disruptive editing; it simply requires a finding that it would be a net positive for the project were the user to lower their activity in the topic area, particularly where an editor has repeatedly engaged in conflict but is not being intentionally or egregiously disruptive.</li> <li>Any admin finding a user in violation of this restriction may, at their discretion, impose other contentious topic sanctions.</li></ul></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <ul><li>If a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerks" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerks">sockpuppet investigations clerk</a> or member of the CheckUser team feels that third-party input is not helpful at an investigation, they are encouraged to use their <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerk_and_checkuser_procedures#Patrolling" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerk and checkuser procedures">existing authority</a> to ask users to stop posting to that investigation or to SPI as a whole. In addition to clerks and members of the CheckUser team, patrolling administrators <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerks#Admin_patrollers" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerks">may remove or collapse</a> contributions that impede the efficient resolution of investigations without warning.</li></ul> <p>For the Arbitration Committee, <a href="/wiki/User:SilverLocust" title="User:SilverLocust">SilverLocust</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilverLocust" title="User talk:SilverLocust">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-SilverLocust-20250123235800-Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_5_closed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilverLocust-20250123235800-Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_5_closed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilverLocust-20250123235800-Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_5_closed"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Discuss this at: <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_5_closed" title="Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard">Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5 closed</a></b></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2-20250125223000"><span id="Feedback_request:_Maths.2C_science.2C_and_technology_request_for_comment_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2-20250125223000"></span>Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2-20250125223000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20250125223000-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#rfc_31AEC7D" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard"><b>Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard</b> on a "Maths, science, and technology" request for comment</a>. Thank you for helping out!<br /><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">Feedback Request Service</a> subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">removing your name</a>.</small> </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> Message delivered to you with love by <a href="/wiki/User:Yapperbot" title="User:Yapperbot">Yapperbot</a> :) | Is this wrong? Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Naypta-20250125223000-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20250125223000-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20250125223000-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Email_Response" data-mw-thread-id="h-Email_Response-20250126083200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Email_Response-20250126083200"></span>Email Response<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Email_Response-20250126083200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Email Response"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hatman31-20250126083200-Email_Response"></span>Thanks for your email outlining the policy around my recent MFD nominations. I'll keep it in mind in case I come across anything similar in the future. <a href="/wiki/User:Hatman31" title="User:Hatman31">Hatman31</a> <small>(he/him · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hatman31" title="User talk:Hatman31">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hatman31" title="Special:Contributions/Hatman31">contribs</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Hatman31-20250126083200-Email_Response" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hatman31-20250126083200-Email_Response"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hatman31-20250126083200-Email_Response"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Hatman31" title="User:Hatman31"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250126164100-Hatman31-20250126083200"></span>User:Hatman31</a> - This doesn't happen very often, but the policy is that <a href="/wiki/Personally_identifying_information" class="mw-redirect" title="Personally identifying information">personally identifying information</a> about minors (with the exception of child celebrities) can be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERSIGHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERSIGHT">suppressed</a>, also known as oversighting, by an Oversight admin (a special class of admins). The Oversight team should be notified by email of any instances where suppression is needed, so as to minimize the amount of attention to avoid a <a href="/wiki/Streisand_effect" title="Streisand effect">Streisand effect</a>. When we do get <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biographies of living persons</a> of children under 16, they are usually by the children, who don't know any better and need to be protected from themselves. That is what happened. I am explaining this in more detail now that there is no active case for the information of any talk page stalkers. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250126164100-Hatman31-20250126083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250126164100-Hatman31-20250126083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250126164100-Hatman31-20250126083200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline-20250127122000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline-20250127122000"></span>Raegan Revord AfD timeline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline-20250127122000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Raegan Revord AfD timeline"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapnZapp-20250127122000-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline"></span>You wrote at Village Pump (proposals): <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704" /><q class="inline-quote-talk">What happened is that there were a draft version of her biography and a mainspace version of her biography, and that they were swapped while the AFD was in progress.</q> </p><p>Have you by now been informed that this is simply not true? The AFD was <b>not</b> in progress when the swap occurred. </p><p>The reason I'm writing this is that you did not seem to react last time I pinged you. I see no correction over at proposals. If you have already taken appropriate action, please feel to ignore, and either way have a good day. <a href="/wiki/User:CapnZapp" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CapnZapp">CapnZapp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CapnZapp" title="User talk:CapnZapp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-CapnZapp-20250127122000-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CapnZapp-20250127122000-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CapnZapp-20250127122000-Raegan_Revord_AfD_timeline"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GmTbNk2304_Sandbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox-20250128225900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox-20250128225900"></span>GmTbNk2304 Sandbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox-20250128225900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: GmTbNk2304 Sandbox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GmTbNk2304-20250128225900-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox"></span>Thank you for clarifying what the issue was with my sandbox. I appreciate your understanding and explaining the issue. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GmTbNk2304&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GmTbNk2304 (page does not exist)">GmTbNk2304</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GmTbNk2304" title="User talk:GmTbNk2304">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-GmTbNk2304-20250128225900-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GmTbNk2304-20250128225900-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GmTbNk2304-20250128225900-GmTbNk2304_Sandbox"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chapter_Library_of_Verona" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chapter_Library_of_Verona-20250129204600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chapter_Library_of_Verona-20250129204600"></span><a href="/wiki/Chapter_Library_of_Verona" title="Chapter Library of Verona">Chapter Library of Verona</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chapter_Library_of_Verona-20250129204600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Chapter Library of Verona"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20250129204600-Chapter_Library_of_Verona"></span>Hi Robert. When using <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-afc-move" title="Template:Db-afc-move">db-afc-move</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, please promptly move the article afterwards. I have to restore the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=deletedrevisions&titles=Chapter%20Library%20of%20Verona&drvprop=user%7Ctimestamp%7Ctags%7Csize&drvlimit=max&formatversion=2">2018 page history</a> after it's moved, since the redirect had substantive non-redirecting history from <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/859867150" title="Special:Diff/859867150">prior to a merge</a>. 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I mean the subj itself - using what tool? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/83.142.111.118" title="Special:Contributions/83.142.111.118">83.142.111.118</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:83.142.111.118" title="User talk:83.142.111.118">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-83.142.111.118-20250212044800-Table" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-83.142.111.118-20250212044800-Table"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-83.142.111.118-20250212044800-Table"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212055900-83.142.111.118-20250212044800"></span>The Excel-to-Wiki table tool at <a class="external autonumber" href="https://excel2wiki.toolforge.org/index.php">[1]</a> . <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250212055900-83.142.111.118-20250212044800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212055900-83.142.111.118-20250212044800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212055900-83.142.111.118-20250212044800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are-20250212181800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are-20250212181800"></span>Wondering when there will be consensus that individual season pages of <i>Bluey</i> are needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are-20250212181800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Wondering when there will be consensus that individual season pages of Bluey are needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are"></span>When will there be consensus that separate season pages of <i><a href="/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)" title="Bluey (TV series)">Bluey</a></i> are needed? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7" title="Special:Contributions/2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7">2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800-Wondering_when_there_will_be_consensus_that_individual_season_pages_of_Bluey_are"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212212800-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">the guideline on consensus</a>, and discuss at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_Bluey_episodes" title="Talk:List of Bluey episodes">Talk:List of Bluey episodes</a>. You are also advised to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REGISTER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REGISTER">register an account</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250212212800-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212212800-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212212800-2601:1C1:837F:6990:A533:E486:E9E9:53B7-20250212181800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article-20250212192200"><span id="Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi.28musician.29_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article-20250212192200"></span>Approval of Alireza Jadidi(musician) article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article-20250212192200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Approval of Alireza Jadidi(musician) article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Combanatc-20250212192200-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article"></span>Hello, I translated this article and added two sources to it, one of the sources is an independent article about him about his definition of instrumental music.<a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Alireza_Jadidi_(musician)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician) (page does not exist)">Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Combanatc" title="User:Combanatc">Combanatc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Combanatc" title="User talk:Combanatc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Combanatc-20250212192200-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Combanatc-20250212192200-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Combanatc-20250212192200-Approval_of_Alireza_Jadidi(musician)_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20250212203000-Combanatc-20250212192200"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/User:Vikworker8" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Vikworker8">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/User:Vikworker8</a> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Qcne-20250212203000-Combanatc-20250212192200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20250212203000-Combanatc-20250212192200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20250212203000-Combanatc-20250212192200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600-Qcne-20250212203000"></span>Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">User:Qcne</a>. Please see the comment that your SPI should be renamed to omit "User". I have made a comment on the draft that it is the work of a sockpuppeteer, and should be ignored, and, if it is resubmitted, the reviewer should check whether the submitter is another sockpuppet. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600-Qcne-20250212203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600-Qcne-20250212203000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600-Qcne-20250212203000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20250212205900-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600"></span>Oops, sorry. Did it via Twinkle and messed up. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Qcne-20250212205900-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20250212205900-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20250212205900-Robert_McClenon-20250212205600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3-20250215013100"><span id="Feedback_request:_Maths.2C_science.2C_and_technology_request_for_comment_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3-20250215013100"></span>Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3-20250215013100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20250215013100-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.#rfc_E1007C3" title="Talk:Robert F. 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Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Naypta-20250215013100-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20250215013100-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20250215013100-Feedback_request:_Maths,_science,_and_technology_request_for_comment_3"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-2025-20250217043600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2025-20250217043600"></span>2025<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2025-20250217043600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: 2025"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250217043600-2025"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> Can you please analyse the sourcing of the ideologies of <a href="/wiki/CPI(M)" class="mw-redirect" title="CPI(M)">CPI(M)</a>? All of these ideologies are not currently added to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250217043600-2025" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250217043600-2025"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250217043600-2025"></span> </p><p><br /> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism" title="Marxism–Leninism"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800-XYZ_250706-20250217043600"></span>Marxism–Leninism</a><sup id="cite_ref-OUP_Ideology_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-OUP_Ideology-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-IOLS_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-IOLS-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Constitution_4-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Constitution-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-February_5-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-February-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Socialism" title="Socialism">Socialism</a><sup id="cite_ref-OUP_Ideology_1-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-OUP_Ideology-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-February_5-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-February-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Secularism" title="Secularism">Secularism</a><sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>9<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-February_5-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-February-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-10"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>10<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-11"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>11<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Anti-neoliberalism" class="mw-redirect" title="Anti-neoliberalism">Anti-neoliberalism</a><sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-12"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>12<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-13"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>13<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Anti-imperialism" title="Anti-imperialism">Anti-imperialism</a><sup id="cite_ref-February_5-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-February-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-14"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>14<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Environmentalism" title="Environmentalism">Environmentalism</a><sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-15"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>15<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">User:XYZ 250706</a> - Are you only asking for the references listed in this request, or for all of the references in the articles? If only the references in this request, I will do it within 72 hours. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800-XYZ_250706-20250217043600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800-XYZ_250706-20250217043600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800-XYZ_250706-20250217043600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250217053800-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800"></span>No these references only. <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250217053800-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250217053800-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250217053800-Robert_McClenon-20250217044800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250219124000-XYZ_250706-20250217053800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> Here is a gentle reminder for the source analysis. I know 72 hours have not passed yet. But I was doubtful whether you saw my last message or not. Actually I requested you for the source analysis to decide which ideologies and citations can be added to the article <a href="/wiki/CPI(M)" class="mw-redirect" title="CPI(M)">CPI(M)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250219124000-XYZ_250706-20250217053800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250219124000-XYZ_250706-20250217053800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250219124000-XYZ_250706-20250217053800"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800-XYZ_250706-20250219124000"></span>User:XYZ 250706</a> - Okay. I may take another 24 hours. Thank you for letting me know that the issue is whether the references establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability</a> for the specific purpose of inclusion in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800-XYZ_250706-20250219124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800-XYZ_250706-20250219124000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800-XYZ_250706-20250219124000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250220130900-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> The ideologies given above are actually of <a href="/wiki/CPI(M)" class="mw-redirect" title="CPI(M)">CPI(M)</a>. I am asking whether the above ideologies can be added to the article based on the information given in the citations. <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250220130900-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250220130900-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250220130900-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250222082700-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> Is the source analysis done? <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250222082700-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 22 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250222082700-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250222082700-Robert_McClenon-20250220045800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250222220600-2025"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output 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id="CITEREFChakrabarty,_Bidyut2014" class="citation book cs1">Chakrabarty, Bidyut (2014). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=oEtRBAAAQBAJ"><i>Communism in India: Events, Processes and Ideologies</i></a>. <a href="/wiki/Oxford_University_Press" title="Oxford University Press">Oxford University Press</a>. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-1999-7489-4" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-1999-7489-4"><bdi>978-0-1999-7489-4</bdi></a>. <a href="/wiki/LCCN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="LCCN (identifier)">LCCN</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://lccn.loc.gov/2014003207">2014003207</a>.</cite><span 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Secular-nationalism in India</i></a>. <a href="/wiki/Oxford_University_Press" title="Oxford University Press">Oxford University Press</a>. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780195676068" title="Special:BookSources/9780195676068"><bdi>9780195676068</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=The+Insurrection+of+Little+Selves%3A+The+Crisis+of+Secular-nationalism+in+India&rft.pub=Oxford+University+Press&rft.date=2006&rft.isbn=9780195676068&rft.aulast=Nigam&rft.aufirst=Aditya&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FThe_Insurrection_of_Little_Selves.html%3Fid%3Dw0swAQAAIAAJ%26source%3Dkp_book_description%26redir_esc%3Dy&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a 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title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=The+National+Question+in+Marxist-Leninist+Theory+and+Strategy&rft.pub=Princeton+University+Press&rft.date=1984&rft.isbn=9780691101637&rft.aulast=Connor&rft.aufirst=Walker&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FThe_National_Question_in_Marxist_Leninis.html%3Fid%3DrgO6yQEACAAJ%26source%3Dkp_book_description%26redir_esc%3Dy&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-Constitution-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Constitution_4-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cpim.org/party-constitution">"Constitution & The Rules Under the Constitution"</a>. <i>Communist Party of India (Marxist)</i>. 18 March 2009<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">31 October</span> 2023</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Communist+Party+of+India+%28Marxist%29&rft.atitle=Constitution+%26+The+Rules+Under+the+Constitution&rft.date=2009-03-18&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpim.org%2Fparty-constitution&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-February-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink">^ <a href="#cite_ref-February_5-0"><sup><i><b>a</b></i></sup></a> <a href="#cite_ref-February_5-1"><sup><i><b>b</b></i></sup></a> <a href="#cite_ref-February_5-2"><sup><i><b>c</b></i></sup></a> <a href="#cite_ref-February_5-3"><sup><i><b>d</b></i></sup></a></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ncert.nic.in/textbook/pdf/jess404.pdf">"Political Parties – NCERT"</a> <span class="cs1-format">(PDF)</span>. <a href="/wiki/National_Council_of_Educational_Research_and_Training" title="National Council of Educational Research and Training">National Council of Educational Research and Training</a><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">14 February</span> 2025</span>. <q>Communist Party of India - Marxist (CPI-M): Founded in 1964. Believes in Marxism-Leninism. Supports socialism, secularism and democracy and opposes imperialism and communalism. Accepts democratic elections as a useful and helpful means for securing the objective of socio-economic justice in India.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=Political+Parties+%E2%80%93+NCERT&rft.pub=National+Council+of+Educational+Research+and+Training&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fncert.nic.in%2Ftextbook%2Fpdf%2Fjess404.pdf&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-6">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/hinduism-and-the-left-searching-for-the-secular-in-post-communist">https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/hinduism-and-the-left-searching-for-the-secular-in-post-communist</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-7">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://cpim.org/party-programme/">"Party Programme"</a>. <i>Communist Party of India (Marxist)</i>. <q>The establishment of a people's democratic government, the successful carrying out of these tasks and the leadership of the working class in the people's democratic State will ensure that the Indian revolution will not stop at the democratic stage but will pass over to the stage of effecting socialist transformation by developing the productive forces.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Communist+Party+of+India+%28Marxist%29&rft.atitle=Party+Programme&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fcpim.org%2Fparty-programme%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-8">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/places-of-worship-act-crucial-to-maintain-communal-harmony-cpim-seeks-to-intervene-in-supreme-court-plea-against-1991-act-277775">https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/places-of-worship-act-crucial-to-maintain-communal-harmony-cpim-seeks-to-intervene-in-supreme-court-plea-against-1991-act-277775</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-9">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/hinduism-and-the-left-searching-for-the-secular-in-post-communist">https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/hinduism-and-the-left-searching-for-the-secular-in-post-communist</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-10"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-10">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation news cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.business-standard.com/amp/article/politics/secularism-can-t-be-protected-without-separating-religion-and-politics-yechury-120101701053_1.html">"Secularism can't be protected without separating religion and politics: Yechury"</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Secularism+can%27t+be+protected+without+separating+religion+and+politics%3A+Yechury&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.business-standard.com%2Famp%2Farticle%2Fpolitics%2Fsecularism-can-t-be-protected-without-separating-religion-and-politics-yechury-120101701053_1.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-11"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-11">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/cpim-plans-secular-front-take-on-bjp/articleshow/46174839.cms">"CPI(M) plans 'secular front' take on BJP"</a>. <i>The Economic Times</i>. 9 February 2015.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=The+Economic+Times&rft.atitle=CPI%28M%29+plans+%27secular+front%27+take+on+BJP&rft.date=2015-02-09&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fm.economictimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-and-nation%2Fcpim-plans-secular-front-take-on-bjp%2Farticleshow%2F46174839.cms&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-12"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-12">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.epw.in/journal/2023/4/special-articles/%E2%80%98new-developmentalism%E2%80%99-and-left-mobilisation.html">"<span class="cs1-kern-left"></span>'New Developmentalism' and Left Mobilisation in Kerala"</a><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">14 February</span> 2025</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=%E2%80%98New+Developmentalism%E2%80%99+and+Left+Mobilisation+in+Kerala&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.epw.in%2Fjournal%2F2023%2F4%2Fspecial-articles%2F%25E2%2580%2598new-developmentalism%25E2%2580%2599-and-left-mobilisation.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-13"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-13">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ncert.nic.in/textbook/pdf/jess404.pdf">"Political Parties – NCERT"</a> <span class="cs1-format">(PDF)</span>. <a href="/wiki/National_Council_of_Educational_Research_and_Training" title="National Council of Educational Research and Training">National Council of Educational Research and Training</a><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">14 February</span> 2025</span>. <q>Critical of the new economic policies that allow free flow of foreign capital and goods into the country.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=Political+Parties+%E2%80%93+NCERT&rft.pub=National+Council+of+Educational+Research+and+Training&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fncert.nic.in%2Ftextbook%2Fpdf%2Fjess404.pdf&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-14"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-14">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://cpim.org/party-programme/">"Party Programme"</a>. <i>Communist Party of India (Marxist)</i>. <q>The Communist Party inherited the progressive, anti-imperialist and revolutionary traditions of the Indian people.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Communist+Party+of+India+%28Marxist%29&rft.atitle=Party+Programme&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fcpim.org%2Fparty-programme%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-15"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-15">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222" /><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jetir.org/papers/JETIR1903O35.pdf">"Environmentalism and Left Political Parties - Rahul Reghu"</a> <span class="cs1-format">(PDF)</span>. Journal of Emerging Technologies and Innovative Research<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">14 February</span> 2025</span>. <q>Indian left especially CPI(M) engaging with the environmental movements as a part of their macro politics. It is tracing the root cause of environmental destruction in developmental model of modern capitalism which was followed by the post independent governments and it compromised with the imperialism on one hand and maintained an alliance with landlordism on the other. So the environmentalism of CPI(M) is developing according to its political framework of anti-capitalism, anti-landlordism and anti-imperialism.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=Environmentalism+and+Left+Political+Parties+-+Rahul+Reghu&rft.pub=Journal+of+Emerging+Technologies+and+Innovative+Research&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jetir.org%2Fpapers%2FJETIR1903O35.pdf&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARobert+McClenon" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">User:XYZ 250706</a> - I expect to have it done within six hours, probably sooner. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250222220600-2025" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 22 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250222220600-2025"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250222220600-2025"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge-20250217164900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge-20250217164900"></span>Nomination for deletion of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Dontmerge&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Dontmerge (page does not exist)">Template:Dontmerge</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge-20250217164900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Nomination for deletion of Template:Dontmerge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rusty_Cat-20250217164900-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326" /></span></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Dontmerge&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Dontmerge (page does not exist)">Template:Dontmerge</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">nominated for deletion</a>. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_17#Template:Dontmerge" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 February 17"><b>the entry on the Templates for discussion page</b></a>. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Rusty_Cat" title="User:Rusty Cat">Rusty</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rusty_Cat" title="User talk:Rusty Cat"><i>meow</i></a></sup> ~ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Rusty_Cat-20250217164900-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rusty_Cat-20250217164900-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rusty_Cat-20250217164900-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Dontmerge"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Finiteness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Finiteness-20250218182900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Finiteness-20250218182900"></span>Draft:Finiteness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Finiteness-20250218182900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Draft:Finiteness"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevincook13-20250218182900-Draft:Finiteness"></span>I object to your rejection of <a href="/wiki/Draft:Finiteness" title="Draft:Finiteness">Draft:Finiteness</a> on the basis of it being not notable. I brought up this issue at the Teahouse [<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1248#h-Draft:Finiteness-20250211164400">[2]</a>] where notability of the topic was not questioned. Please withdraw your rejection. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)">Kevincook13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Kevincook13-20250218182900-Draft:Finiteness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 18 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevincook13-20250218182900-Draft:Finiteness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevincook13-20250218182900-Draft:Finiteness"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevincook13-20250219165800-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span>I understand that you are well aware of the fact that your rejection is not justified based on a lack of notability. Yet, you did reject the article for that reason. Sorry to be a little pointed, but claiming a lack of notability while tacitly acknowledging notability is a contradiction, devoid of meaning. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)">Kevincook13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Kevincook13-20250219165800-Kevincook13-20250218182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevincook13-20250219165800-Kevincook13-20250218182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevincook13-20250219165800-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevincook13-20250219173200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span>I believe that you believe that it is in the best interest of the readers Wikipedia serves that the article is rejected. I believe that you chose to base your rejection on notability because there didn't seem to be a better basis available. Which basis was needed, but not available to choose? If it is truly needed, then it should be identified and added to the list of available options. If the article really should be rejected, then a basis should be clearly articulated and agreed upon. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)">Kevincook13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Kevincook13-20250219173200-Kevincook13-20250218182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevincook13-20250219173200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevincook13-20250219173200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevincook13-20250219232200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span>It is clear to me that it is the content of the article which is being opposed. Your actions communicate that you would rather have no finiteness article, than to have the one I have written. In fact, the whole community seems quite content to have no finiteness article at all.</dd> <dd>Wikipedia is not a place to promote or advertise, but neither is it a place to suppress or obscure. A finiteness article should be welcome. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)">Kevincook13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Kevincook13-20250219232200-Kevincook13-20250218182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:22, 19 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevincook13-20250219232200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevincook13-20250219232200-Kevincook13-20250218182900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevincook13-20250220044300-Kevincook13-20250219232200"></span>Is finiteness welcome here? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)">Kevincook13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Kevincook13-20250220044300-Kevincook13-20250219232200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevincook13-20250220044300-Kevincook13-20250219232200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevincook13-20250220044300-Kevincook13-20250219232200"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kevincook13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kevincook13 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220050000-Kevincook13-20250220044300"></span>User:Kevincook13</a>, and any talk page watchers - I will be taking this discussion to <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevincook13" title="User talk:Kevincook13">User talk:Kevincook13</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250220050000-Kevincook13-20250220044300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220050000-Kevincook13-20250220044300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250220050000-Kevincook13-20250220044300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Vikram_Singh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Vikram_Singh-20250223105900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Vikram_Singh-20250223105900"></span>Draft:Vikram Singh<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Vikram_Singh-20250223105900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Draft:Vikram Singh"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XYZ_250706-20250223105900-Draft:Vikram_Singh"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> Can you please analyse the sources in <a href="/wiki/Draft:Vikram_Singh_(CPIM)" title="Draft:Vikram Singh (CPIM)">Draft:Vikram Singh (CPIM)</a> to judge the notability of the subject (whether the article can pass GNG or not)? Currently the draft is not written properly, only important facts are given (also some of his other roles in mass movements can be added from other citations and some are already written in the citations given). When you will complete the analysis, please ping me either here or in my talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:XYZ_250706" title="User:XYZ 250706">XYZ 250706</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XYZ_250706" title="User talk:XYZ 250706">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-XYZ_250706-20250223105900-Draft:Vikram_Singh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XYZ_250706-20250223105900-Draft:Vikram_Singh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XYZ_250706-20250223105900-Draft:Vikram_Singh"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Files_(software)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Files_(software)-20250223154700"><span id="Draft:Files_.28software.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Files_(software)-20250223154700"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Files_(software)" title="Draft:Files (software)">Draft:Files (software)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Files_(software)-20250223154700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Draft:Files (software)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700-Draft:Files_(software)"></span>I am checking in to see if you are still reviewing this draft. You marked it as being reviewed almost two weeks ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Ktkvtsh" title="User:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#4B0082; font-weight:bold;">Kt</span><span style="color:#008080; font-weight:bold;">kv</span><span style="color:#B8860B; font-weight:bold;">tsh</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ktkvtsh" title="User talk:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#555;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700-Draft:Files_(software)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700-Draft:Files_(software)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700-Draft:Files_(software)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700"></span>I have removed the page from being under review as it has been 15 days and I got no response for two days. <a href="/wiki/User:Ktkvtsh" title="User:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#4B0082; font-weight:bold;">Kt</span><span style="color:#008080; font-weight:bold;">kv</span><span style="color:#B8860B; font-weight:bold;">tsh</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ktkvtsh" title="User talk:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#555;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600-Ktkvtsh-20250223154700"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ktkvtsh" title="User:Ktkvtsh"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600"></span>User:Ktkvtsh</a> - I goofed. I apologize. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100-Ktkvtsh-20250225230600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250228214700-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100"></span>No worries :) <a href="/wiki/User:Ktkvtsh" title="User:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#4B0082; font-weight:bold;">Kt</span><span style="color:#008080; font-weight:bold;">kv</span><span style="color:#B8860B; font-weight:bold;">tsh</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ktkvtsh" title="User talk:Ktkvtsh"><span style="color:#555;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Ktkvtsh-20250228214700-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ktkvtsh-20250228214700-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ktkvtsh-20250228214700-Robert_McClenon-20250228203100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Keane-Connolly-McGorman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keane-Connolly-McGorman-20250226051400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keane-Connolly-McGorman-20250226051400"></span><a href="/wiki/Keane-Connolly-McGorman" title="Keane-Connolly-McGorman">Keane-Connolly-McGorman</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keane-Connolly-McGorman-20250226051400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Keane-Connolly-McGorman"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400-Keane-Connolly-McGorman"></span>Hi there, and thank you with your help with AfC! I noticed that an article you recently accepted, <a href="/wiki/Keane-Connolly-McGorman" title="Keane-Connolly-McGorman">Keane-Connolly-McGorman</a>, included significant amounts of copyrighted material at the time you accepted it. I just wanted to bring this to your attention as a reminder to be on the lookout for copyright violations as you're doing your reviews. This is especially important because you are autopatrolled, so when you accept article through AfC, they are automatically marked as patrolled so another NPPer doesn't have to look at it. Fortunately, someone else caught this error and submitted for G13, though I was able to prune the CV. Anyway, as I said, I just wanted to send out a reminder. Let me know if you have any follow-up questions. Take care, <a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade">Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Significa_liberdade" title="User talk:Significa liberdade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400-Keane-Connolly-McGorman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400-Keane-Connolly-McGorman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400-Keane-Connolly-McGorman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226165500-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400"></span>User:Significa liberdade</a> - Yes. What I will say at this point is that I recognize that I made a mistake because I didn't run that one through the copyvio chccker. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250226165500-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226165500-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226165500-Significa_liberdade-20250226051400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)-20250226051400"><span id="Draft:John_West_.28cricketer.2C_born_1861.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)-20250226051400"></span>Draft:John West (cricketer, born 1861)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)-20250226051400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Draft:John West (cricketer, born 1861)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SportingFlyer-20250226051400-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)"></span>Why did you decline this? It's significantly different than the one that was at AfD. <a href="/wiki/User:SportingFlyer" title="User:SportingFlyer">SportingFlyer</a> <i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SportingFlyer" title="User talk:SportingFlyer">T</a></span></i>·<i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer" title="Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer">C</a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-SportingFlyer-20250226051400-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SportingFlyer-20250226051400-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SportingFlyer-20250226051400-Draft:John_West_(cricketer,_born_1861)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:SportingFlyer" title="User:SportingFlyer"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700-SportingFlyer-20250226051400"></span>User:SportingFlyer</a> - As I said in the decline, please resubmit it, indicating which sources are new. If you submit it again, with an explanation, I won't decline it again; I will either accept it or leave it for another reviewer. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700-SportingFlyer-20250226051400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700-SportingFlyer-20250226051400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700-SportingFlyer-20250226051400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SportingFlyer-20250226225100-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700"></span>Ah! There was no history past the draft. The last version in mainspace only had four sources, so it needs to be reviewed as a new article. <a href="/wiki/User:SportingFlyer" title="User:SportingFlyer">SportingFlyer</a> <i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SportingFlyer" title="User talk:SportingFlyer">T</a></span></i>·<i><span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer" title="Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer">C</a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-SportingFlyer-20250226225100-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SportingFlyer-20250226225100-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SportingFlyer-20250226225100-Robert_McClenon-20250226170700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_sympathies" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_sympathies-20250228175000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_sympathies-20250228175000"></span>My sympathies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_sympathies-20250228175000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: My sympathies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_notMD-20250228175000-My_sympathies"></span>You have my sympathies, as the 'discussion' about Finiteness was trending toward the infinite. <a href="/wiki/User:David_notMD" title="User:David notMD">David notMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_notMD" title="User talk:David notMD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-David_notMD-20250228175000-My_sympathies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_notMD-20250228175000-My_sympathies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_notMD-20250228175000-My_sympathies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:David_notMD" title="User:David notMD"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228202900-David_notMD-20250228175000"></span>User:David notMD</a> - A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TROUT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TROUT">trout</a> would have been the wrong answer, because <a href="/wiki/Otariids" class="mw-redirect" title="Otariids">otariids</a> eat <a href="/wiki/Salmonids" class="mw-redirect" title="Salmonids">salmonids</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon#c-Robert_McClenon-20250228202900-David_notMD-20250228175000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228202900-David_notMD-20250228175000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20250228202900-David_notMD-20250228175000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-20250228214400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-20250228214400"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-20250228214400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robert_McClenon&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Hello"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kingsize8-20250228214400-Hello"></span>Hello do you mind we become friends and maybe you can mentor me? 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