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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lauryn_Ashby&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new mw-userlink" title="User:Lauryn Ashby (not yet started)" data-mw-revid="1772033"><bdi>Lauryn Ashby</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lauryn_Ashby" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Lauryn Ashby">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lauryn_Ashby" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Lauryn Ashby">changes</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>6,834</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Oppose">→<bdi dir="ltr">Oppose</bdi></a>: </span> oppose</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales&diff=next&oldid=1772033" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Griffinofwales" id="differences-nextlink">Newer diff →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>====Oppose====</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>====Oppose====</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>#{{oppose}} As helpful as he may be, I believe that Griffin possess neither the amount of [[WP:CLUE|clue]] nor the mentality to effectively administrate. His blind adherence to written policy in the face of clear situations where policy should be [[WP:IAR|ignored]] to better the encyclopedia is a large factor in my decision to oppose. Anyone can blindly follow others, it is the people that stand out from the crowd and put the improvement of the encyclopedia above policy that are the most effective administrators. Yes, policy is important, but it is not penultimate. Warmly, [[user:Katerenka|<font color ="deeppink">– Katerenka</font>]] <small>[[user talk:Katerenka|(talk •]] [[Special:Contributions/Katerenka|contribs)]]</small> 01:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>#</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>====Comments====</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>====Comments====</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 01:08, 6 October 2009</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Griffinofwales" data-mw-thread-id="h-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Griffinofwales<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Griffinofwales" title="User:Griffinofwales"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span>Griffinofwales</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Griffinofwales" title="User talk:Griffinofwales">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Griffinofwales" title="Special:Contributions/Griffinofwales">contribs</a>)</dd></dl> <p><i>End date: </i>01:29(UTC) - 13/10/09 <br/>Okay, some of you are probably coughing up Coke or Sprite or some other liquid right now, but please ... bear with me! Few people have generated comment like Griffin has done. The emotions of editors regarding him encompase most if not all of human emotion. Likely I'll receive a few emails asking if I've stopped taking my meds after I nominate Griffin, but please let me make the case first. This user came to us on May 7, 2009 and promptly told us "I hate simple (en is the best)"! Since that ignominious statement Griffin has changed a great deal. He has become more than an active user, he has come to care about the project in a way I think he probably didn't expect to. The vast majority of the time Griffin has followed the rules of the wiki and has complied with consensus; straying only (quite frankly) when some of the rest of us would probably done also. Opinionated, yes; so what? Contentious at times, yes; but it takes all kinds, and that's a good thing! However, ... likely to wheel war, no! Likely to break the wiki, no! Likely to abuse the tools, no; I don't think so. Likely to do his best? Yes! I further think that Griffin can deal perfectly fairly with a situation that may involve a personal interest. I think that Griffin is a net positive as an editor and his promotion to sysop would bring some much needed flavor into the ranks. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><font color="darkgreen">fr33k</font><font color="blue">man</font></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman">talk</a></sup></b></i> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Griffinofwales" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span> <br/><br/> <b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span>Co-nom by <a href="/wiki/User:Maximillion_Pegasus" title="User:Maximillion Pegasus">Maximillion Pegasus</a></b> - Griffofwales has been on seWP since May of this year. During this time he has been an extremely productive and active user and would benefit the community greatly from the addition of the admin tools. In short, he is a very qualified candidate with plenty of experience in all areas of the project. <a href="/wiki/User:Maximillion_Pegasus" title="User:Maximillion Pegasus">Maximillion Pegasus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maximillion_Pegasus" title="User talk:Maximillion Pegasus">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Griffinofwales" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span> </p><p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:02:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span>Candidate's acceptance: I accept, <a href="/wiki/User:Griffinofwales" title="User:Griffinofwales">Griffinofwales</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Griffinofwales" title="User talk:Griffinofwales">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:02:00.000Z-Griffinofwales" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:02:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:02:00.000Z-Griffinofwales"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Support" data-mw-thread-id="h-Support-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Support-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Support<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Support-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ol><li><i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><font color="darkgreen"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Support"></span>fr33k</font><font color="blue">man</font></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman">talk</a></sup></b></i> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Support" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Support"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-2009-10-06T00:55:00.000Z-Support"></span></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Maximillion_Pegasus" title="User:Maximillion Pegasus"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Support"></span>Maximillion Pegasus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maximillion_Pegasus" title="User talk:Maximillion Pegasus">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Support" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Support"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maximillion_Pegasus-2009-10-06T00:57:00.000Z-Support"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Oppose" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oppose-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oppose-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z"></span>Oppose<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oppose-Griffinofwales-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Katerenka-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z-Oppose"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Oppose</b> As helpful as he may be, I believe that Griffin possess neither the amount of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:CLUE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:CLUE (not yet started)">clue</a> nor the mentality to effectively administrate. His blind adherence to written policy in the face of clear situations where policy should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IAR">ignored</a> to better the encyclopedia is a large factor in my decision to oppose. Anyone can blindly follow others, it is the people that stand out from the crowd and put the improvement of the encyclopedia above policy that are the most effective administrators. Yes, policy is important, but it is not penultimate. Warmly, <a href="/wiki/User:Katerenka" title="User:Katerenka"><font color="deeppink">– Katerenka</font></a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Katerenka" title="User talk:Katerenka">(talk •</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Katerenka" title="Special:Contributions/Katerenka">contribs)</a></small> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales#c-Katerenka-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z-Oppose" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Katerenka-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z-Oppose"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Katerenka-2009-10-06T01:08:00.000Z-Oppose"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comments-Griffinofwales"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comments-Griffinofwales"></span>Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comments-Griffinofwales"></span></h4></div></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales&oldid=1772033">https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Griffinofwales&oldid=1772033</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last changed on 6 October 2009, at 01:08.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License">GFDL</a>; additional terms may apply. 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