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On the Apple end. With the walled garden does Apple have flags and reviews of apps that use the Stored credentials? Not sure. But i would guess the typical iOS user trusts the Apple password manager way more then the Google Android password manager.<br /> <br /> Which is why it works for iOS. Also required i think is for both devices to be present. 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