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Some said, &#8220He is a good man.&#8221 Others replied, &#8220No, he deceives the people.&#8221 <a href="/nlt/john/7.htm">New Living Translation</a> There was a lot of grumbling about him among the crowds. Some argued, “He’s a good man,” but others said, “He’s nothing but a fraud who deceives the people.” <a href="/esv/john/7.htm">English Standard Version</a> And there was much muttering about him among the people. While some said, “He is a good man,” others said, “No, he is leading the people astray.” <a href="/bsb/john/7.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a> Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, “He is a good man.” But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.” <a href="/blb/john/7.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people." <a href="/kjv/john/7.htm">King James Bible</a> And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people. <a href="/nkjv/john/7.htm">New King James Version</a> And there was much complaining among the people concerning Him. Some said, “He is good”; others said, “No, on the contrary, He deceives the people.” <a href="/nasb_/john/7.htm">New American Standard Bible</a> And there was a great deal of talk about Him in secret among the crowds: some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He is misleading the people.” <a href="/nasb/john/7.htm">NASB 1995</a> There was much grumbling among the crowds concerning Him; some were saying, &#8220He is a good man"; others were saying, &#8220No, on the contrary, He leads the people astray.&#8221 <a href="/nasb77/john/7.htm">NASB 1977 </a> And there was much grumbling among the multitudes concerning Him; some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He leads the multitude astray.” <a href="/lsb/john/7.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a> And there was much grumbling among the crowds concerning Him; some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He leads the crowd astray.” <a href="/amp/john/7.htm">Amplified Bible</a> There was a lot of whispered discussion and murmuring among the crowds about Him. Some were saying, “He is a good man”; others said, “No, on the contrary, He misleads the people [giving them false ideas].” <a href="/csb/john/7.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a> And there was a lot of murmuring about him among the crowds. Some were saying, “He’s a good man.” Others were saying, “No, on the contrary, he’s deceiving the people.” <a href="/hcsb/john/7.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a> And there was a lot of discussion about Him among the crowds. Some were saying, &#8220He&#8217s a good man.&#8221 Others were saying, &#8220No, on the contrary, He&#8217s deceiving the people.&#8221 <a href="/asv/john/7.htm">American Standard Version</a> And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray. <a href="/cev/john/7.htm">Contemporary English Version</a> The crowds even got into an argument about him. Some were saying, "Jesus is a good man," while others were saying, "He is lying to everyone." <a href="/erv/john/7.htm">English Revised Version</a> And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray. <a href="/gwt/john/7.htm">GOD'S WORD® Translation</a> The crowds argued about Jesus. Some people said, "He's a good man," while others said, "No he isn't. He deceives the people." <a href="/gnt/john/7.htm">Good News Translation</a> There was much whispering about him in the crowd. "He is a good man," some people said. "No," others said, "he fools the people." <a href="/isv/john/7.htm">International Standard Version</a> And there was a great deal of discussion about him among the crowds. Some were saying, "He is a good man," while others were saying, "No, he is deceiving the crowds!" <a href="/msb/john/7.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a> Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, ?He is a good man.? But others replied, ?No, He deceives the people.? <a href="/net/john/7.htm">NET Bible</a> There was a lot of grumbling about him among the crowds. Some were saying, "He is a good man," but others, "He deceives the common people." <a href="/nheb/john/7.htm">New Heart English Bible</a> There was much murmuring among the crowds concerning him. Some said, "He is a good man." But others said, "Not so, but he leads the crowd astray." <a href="/wbt/john/7.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a> And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, No; but he deceiveth the people. <a href="/wey/john/7.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> Among the mass of the people there was much muttered debate about Him. Some said, "He is a good man." Others said, "Not so: he is imposing on the people." <a href="/web/john/7.htm">World English Bible</a> There was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others said, “Not so, but he leads the multitude astray.” <div class="vheading2">Literal Translations</div><a href="/lsv/john/7.htm">Literal Standard Version</a> And there was much murmuring about Him among the multitudes, some indeed said, “He is good”; and others said, “No, but He leads the multitude astray”; <a href="/blb/john/7.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people." <a href="/ylt/john/7.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a> and there was much murmuring about him among the multitudes, some indeed said -- 'He is good;' and others said, 'No, but he leadeth astray the multitude;' <a href="/slt/john/7.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a> And much murmuring was for him in the crowds: some truly said, That he is good: and others said, No; but he deceives the crowd.<div class="vheading2">Catholic Translations</div><a href="/drb/john/7.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a> And there was much murmuring among the multitude concerning him. For some said: He is a good man. And others said: No, but he seduceth the people. <a href="/cpdv/john/7.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a> And there was much murmuring in the crowd concerning him. For certain ones were saying, “He is good.” But others were saying, “No, for he seduces the crowds.” <a href="/nabre/john/7.htm">New American Bible</a> And there was considerable murmuring about him in the crowds. Some said, “He is a good man,” [while] others said, “No; on the contrary, he misleads the crowd.” <a href="/nrsvce/john/7.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a> And there was considerable complaining about him among the crowds. While some were saying, “He is a good man,” others were saying, “No, he is deceiving the crowd.”<div class="vheading2">Translations from Aramaic</div><a href="/lamsa/john/7.htm">Lamsa Bible</a> And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him; for some said, He is good; and others said, No, but he just deceives the people. <a href="/aramaic-plain-english/john/7.htm">Aramaic Bible in Plain English</a> And there was much murmuring in the crowd because of him, for there were those who said, “He is good”, and others were saying, “No, but he deceives the people.”<div class="vheading2">NT Translations</div><a href="/anderson/john/7.htm">Anderson New Testament</a> And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said: He is a good man. Others said: No; but he deceives the multitude. <a href="/godbey/john/7.htm">Godbey New Testament</a> And there was much murmuring in the crowd concerning Him: some indeed were saying, That He is good; others were saying, No, but He deceives the multitude. <a href="/haweis/john/7.htm">Haweis New Testament</a> And there was a great murmur concerning him among the multitude: some said, Surely he is a good man: others said, No; he only deceiveth the people. <a href="/mace/john/7.htm">Mace New Testament</a> and the people were much divided about him: for some said, he is a good man: others said, not at all; but he seduces the people. <a href="/wey/john/7.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> Among the mass of the people there was much muttered debate about Him. Some said, "He is a good man." Others said, "Not so: he is imposing on the people." <a href="/worrell/john/7.htm">Worrell New Testament</a> And there was much murmuring about Him among the multitudes: some were saying, "He is a good Man;" others were saying, "Nay, but He is misleading the multitude." <a href="/worsley/john/7.htm">Worsley New Testament</a> And there was much murmuring among the people concerning Him: for some said, He is a good man; others said, No: He deceiveth the people. <a href="/parallel/john/7-12.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv">Audio Bible</div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ixy2bchmXZ0?start=2361" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> <div class="vheadingv">Context</div><a href="/bsb/john/7.htm">Jesus Teaches at the Feast</a> …11So the Jews were looking for Him at the feast and asking, “Where is He?” 12<a href="/greek/2532.htm" title="2532: kai (Conj) -- And, even, also, namely. "></a> <a href="/greek/4183.htm" title="4183: polys (Adj-NMS) -- Much, many; often. ">Many</a> <a href="/greek/1722.htm" title="1722: en (Prep) -- In, on, among. A primary preposition denoting position, and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest; in, at, on, by, etc.">in</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: tois (Art-DMP) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.">the</a> <a href="/greek/3793.htm" title="3793: ochlois (N-DMP) -- From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot.">crowds</a> <a href="/greek/1510.htm" title="1510: ēn (V-IIA-3S) -- I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.">were</a> <a href="/greek/1112.htm" title="1112: gongysmos (N-NMS) -- Murmuring, grumbling. From gogguzo; a grumbling.">whispering</a> <a href="/greek/4012.htm" title="4012: peri (Prep) -- From the base of peran; properly, through, i.e. Around; figuratively with respect to; used in various applications, of place, cause or time.">about</a> <a href="/greek/846.htm" title="846: autou (PPro-GM3S) -- He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons.">Him.</a> <a href="/greek/3303.htm" title="3303: men (Conj) -- A primary particle; properly, indicative of affirmation or concession; usually followed by a contrasted clause with de."></a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: hoi (Art-NMP) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.">Some</a> <a href="/greek/2036.htm" title="2036: elegon (V-IIA-3P) -- Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say.">said,</a> <a href="/greek/3754.htm" title="3754: hoti (Conj) -- Neuter of hostis as conjunction; demonstrative, that; causative, because."></a> <a href="/greek/1510.htm" title="1510: estin (V-PIA-3S) -- I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.">“He is</a> <a href="/greek/18.htm" title="18: Agathos (Adj-NMS) -- A primary word; good.">a good man.”</a> <a href="/greek/1161.htm" title="1161: de (Conj) -- A primary particle; but, and, etc.">But</a> <a href="/greek/243.htm" title="243: Alloi (Adj-NMP) -- Other, another (of more than two), different. A primary word; else, i.e. Different.">others</a> <a href="/greek/2036.htm" title="2036: elegon (V-IIA-3P) -- Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say.">replied,</a> <a href="/greek/3756.htm" title="3756: Ou (Adv) -- No, not. Also ouk, and ouch a primary word; the absolute negative adverb; no or not.">“No,</a> <a href="/greek/235.htm" title="235: alla (Conj) -- But, except, however. Neuter plural of allos; properly, other things, i.e. contrariwise."></a> <a href="/greek/4105.htm" title="4105: plana (V-PIA-3S) -- To lead astray, deceive, cause to wander. From plane; to roam.">He deceives</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: ton (Art-AMS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.">the</a> <a href="/greek/3793.htm" title="3793: ochlon (N-AMS) -- From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot.">people.”</a> 13Yet no one would speak publicly about Him for fear of the Jews.…<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> · <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div> <a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><a href="/matthew/12-24.htm">Matthew 12:24</a> But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “Only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, does this man drive out demons.” <a href="/mark/3-22.htm">Mark 3:22</a> And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.” <a href="/luke/11-15.htm">Luke 11:15</a> but some of them said, “It is by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons, that He drives out demons.” <a href="/john/9-16.htm">John 9:16</a> Because of this, some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for He does not keep the Sabbath.” But others said, “How can a sinful man perform such signs?” And there was division among them. <a href="/john/10-19.htm">John 10:19-21</a> Again there was division among the Jews because of Jesus’ message. / Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?” / But others replied, “These are not the words of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?” <a href="/matthew/16-13.htm">Matthew 16:13-14</a> When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, He questioned His disciples: “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” / They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” <a href="/mark/6-14.htm">Mark 6:14-15</a> Now King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known, and people were saying, “John the Baptist has risen from the dead! That is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” / Others were saying, “He is Elijah,” and still others, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of old.” <a href="/luke/7-16.htm">Luke 7:16-17</a> A sense of awe swept over all of them, and they glorified God. “A great prophet has appeared among us!” they said. “God has visited His people!” / And the news about Jesus spread throughout Judea and all the surrounding region. <a href="/john/6-14.htm">John 6:14</a> When the people saw the sign that Jesus had performed, they began to say, “Truly this is the Prophet who is to come into the world.” <a href="/john/6-41.htm">John 6:41-42</a> At this, the Jews began to grumble about Jesus because He had said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” / They were asking, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then can He say, ‘I have come down from heaven?’” <a href="/john/6-52.htm">John 6:52</a> At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” <a href="/john/9-29.htm">John 9:29</a> We know that God spoke to Moses, but we do not know where this man is from.” <a href="/john/12-42.htm">John 12:42-43</a> Nevertheless, many of the leaders believed in Him. But because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue. / For they loved praise from men more than praise from God. <a href="/acts/14-4.htm">Acts 14:4</a> The people of the city were divided. Some sided with the Jews, and others with the apostles. <a href="/acts/28-22.htm">Acts 28:22</a> But we consider your views worth hearing, because we know that people everywhere are speaking against this sect.”</div> <a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div>And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, No; but he deceives the people.murmuring.<a href="/john/7-32.htm">John 7:32</a> The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.<a href="/john/9-16.htm">John 9:16</a> Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.<a href="/philippians/2-14.htm">Philippians 2:14</a> Do all things without murmurings and disputings:some.<a href="/john/7-25.htm">John 7:25-27,40-43</a> Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill? … <a href="/john/6-14.htm">John 6:14</a> Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.<a href="/john/9-16.htm">John 9:16</a> Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.is a.<a href="/luke/6-45.htm">Luke 6:45</a> A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.<a href="/luke/18-19.htm">Luke 18:19</a> And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.<a href="/luke/23-47.htm">Luke 23:47,50</a> Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man… deceiveth.<a href="/john/7-47.htm">John 7:47,52</a> Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived? … <a href="/matthew/27-63.htm">Matthew 27:63</a> Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.<div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/luke/21-8.htm">Astray</a> <a href="/luke/14-10.htm">Contrary</a> <a href="/john/6-24.htm">Crowd</a> <a href="/luke/23-48.htm">Crowds</a> <a href="/john/6-52.htm">Debate</a> <a href="/proverbs/26-19.htm">Deceiveth</a> <a href="/john/6-64.htm">False.</a> <a href="/john/7-6.htm">Good</a> <a href="/john/6-61.htm">Grumbling</a> <a href="/james/1-22.htm">Ideas</a> <a href="/2_chronicles/7-21.htm">Imposing</a> <a href="/john/6-69.htm">Indeed</a> <a href="/mark/13-5.htm">Leads</a> <a href="/luke/23-18.htm">Mass</a> <a href="/john/6-24.htm">Multitude</a> <a href="/luke/23-48.htm">Multitudes</a> <a href="/john/6-41.htm">Murmuring</a> <a href="/luke/15-2.htm">Muttered</a> <a href="/lamentations/3-62.htm">Muttering</a> <a href="/john/4-48.htm">Others</a> <a href="/lamentations/3-62.htm">Whispering</a> <a href="/ezekiel/28-16.htm">Widespread</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/john/7-47.htm">Astray</a> <a href="/john/8-49.htm">Contrary</a> <a href="/john/7-20.htm">Crowd</a> <a href="/john/8-2.htm">Crowds</a> <a href="/acts/6-9.htm">Debate</a> <a href="/galatians/6-3.htm">Deceiveth</a> <a href="/john/21-20.htm">False.</a> <a href="/john/10-11.htm">Good</a> <a href="/philippians/2-14.htm">Grumbling</a> <a href="/john/7-47.htm">Ideas</a> <a href="/2_corinthians/10-1.htm">Imposing</a> <a href="/john/7-26.htm">Indeed</a> <a href="/john/10-3.htm">Leads</a> <a href="/acts/21-36.htm">Mass</a> <a href="/john/7-20.htm">Multitude</a> <a href="/acts/5-14.htm">Multitudes</a> <a href="/john/7-32.htm">Murmuring</a> <a href="/isaiah/59-3.htm">Muttered</a> <a href="/john/7-32.htm">Muttering</a> <a href="/john/7-41.htm">Others</a> <a href="/john/7-32.htm">Whispering</a> <a href="/acts/19-17.htm">Widespread</a><div class="vheading2">John 7</div>1. <a href="/john/7-1.htm">Jesus reproves the ambition and boldness of his kinsmen;</a> 10. <a href="/john/7-10.htm">goes up from Galilee to the feast of tabernacles;</a> 14. <a href="/john/7-14.htm">teaches in the temple.</a> 40. <a href="/john/7-40.htm">Various opinions of him among the people.</a> 45. <a href="/john/7-45.htm">The Pharisees are angry that their officers took him not, </a> 50. <a href="/john/7-50.htm">and chide with Nicodemus for taking his side.</a> </div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script> <script id="b817b7107f1d4a7997da1b3c33457e03"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=cb0edd8b-b416-47eb-8c6d-3cc96561f7e8&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-2'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-0' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-3'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-1' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div align="center" id='div-gpt-ad-1531425649696-0'> </div> <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:inline-block;width:200px;height:200px" data-ad-client="ca-pub-3753401421161123" data-ad-slot="3592799687"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> </td></tr></table></div></div></div><div id="combox"><div class="padcom"><a name="study" id="study"></a><div class="vheading"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="99%" valign="top"><a href="/study/john/7.htm">Study Bible</a></td><td width="1%" valign="top"><a href="/study/john/" title="Book Summary and Study">Book ◦</a> <a href="/study/chapters/john/7.htm" title="Chapter summary and Study">Chapter </a></tr></table></div>Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. The setting is the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem, a major Jewish festival drawing large crowds. The whispering indicates a mix of curiosity and fear, as open discussion about Jesus was risky due to the religious leaders' opposition. This reflects the divided opinions and the secretive nature of discussions about Jesus at the time. The whispering also fulfills the prophecy of <a href="/isaiah/53-3.htm">Isaiah 53:3</a>, where the Messiah is described as being despised and rejected by men.Some said, “He is a good man.” This statement reflects the view of those who saw Jesus' miracles and teachings as positive and beneficial. They recognized His moral integrity and compassion, aligning with the portrayal of Jesus as a righteous teacher. This perspective is consistent with the accounts of Jesus' life, where He healed the sick, fed the hungry, and taught with authority, as seen in <a href="/matthew/5.htm">Matthew 5-7</a> (the Sermon on the Mount).But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.” This accusation echoes the skepticism and hostility from the religious authorities who saw Jesus as a threat to their power and traditions. The charge of deception is significant, as it implies leading people away from the truth, a serious accusation in Jewish culture. This division among the people is a recurring theme in the Gospels, highlighting the fulfillment of prophecies like <a href="/psalms/118-22.htm">Psalm 118:22</a>, where the stone the builders rejected becomes the cornerstone. The accusation of deception also foreshadows the later charges brought against Jesus leading to His crucifixion.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <a href="/topical/j/jesus_christ.htm">Jesus Christ</a> Central figure in the passage, whose identity and mission are being debated among the people. 2. <a href="/topical/t/the_crowds.htm">The Crowds</a> A diverse group of people gathered in Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles, expressing varied opinions about Jesus. 3. <a href="/topical/j/jerusalem.htm">Jerusalem</a> The city where the Feast of Tabernacles is taking place, a significant location for Jewish religious life. 4. <a href="/topical/t/the_feast_of_tabernacles.htm">The Feast of Tabernacles</a> A major Jewish festival commemorating the Israelites' wilderness journey, during which this discussion occurs. 5. <a href="/topical/t/the_jewish_leaders.htm">The Jewish Leaders</a> Though not directly mentioned in this verse, they are influential in shaping public opinion and are often in opposition to Jesus.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><a href="/topical/t/the_nature_of_public_opinion.htm">The Nature of Public Opinion</a> Public opinion about Jesus was divided, reflecting the varied responses to His teachings and miracles. This division is still present today, and believers must be prepared to encounter differing views about Christ. <a href="/topical/d/discernment_in_belief.htm">Discernment in Belief</a> The crowd's mixed opinions highlight the need for discernment. Believers should seek truth through Scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit rather than relying solely on popular opinion. <a href="/topical/t/the_cost_of_following_jesus.htm">The Cost of Following Jesus</a> Following Jesus may lead to misunderstanding or opposition, as seen in the accusations of deception. Believers should be ready to stand firm in their faith despite societal pressures. <a href="/topical/t/the_importance_of_personal_conviction.htm">The Importance of Personal Conviction</a> Like the disciples in <a href="/bsb/matthew/16.htm">Matthew 16</a>, each person must come to their own conviction about who Jesus is. This personal decision is crucial for one's faith journey. <a href="/topical/e/engaging_with_skepticism.htm">Engaging with Skepticism</a> Jesus faced skepticism and accusations, yet He continued His mission. Believers can learn from His example to engage with skeptics with grace and truth.<div class="vheading2">Lists and Questions</div><a href="/top10/lessons_from_john_7.htm">Top 10 Lessons from John 7</a> <a href="/q/bible's_view_on_intimidation.htm">What does the Bible say about intimidation?</a> <a href="/q/why_is_pilate_sympathetic_to_jesus.htm">Why does Pilate appear unusually sympathetic to Jesus when historical records describe him as ruthless?</a> <a href="/q/how_does_john_12_28_align_with_other_audible_god_voices.htm">How does John 12:28 reconcile with other biblical portrayals of God's voice supposedly heard audibly by crowds?</a> <a href="/q/why_no_non-biblical_record_of_john's_work.htm">Why is there no independent, non-biblical documentation of John's ministry or baptisms despite the large crowds he supposedly attracted? (Matthew 3:1-5)</a><a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/ellicott/john/7.htm">Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers</a></div>(12) And there was much murmuring among the people.--The original word for "people" is here, and here only in St. John, in the plural, and is best rendered by multitudes. It refers to the throngs of people assembled during the various parts of the ritual of the feast, and, perhaps, specially on the one hand to the Galilean multitude, some of whom had been present at the last great work recorded in this Gospel, and some of whom had been present at other works, and influenced by other teaching of Jesus and the Apostles; and on the other hand, to the Judaean multitude, who had been prevented from accepting Him in the same degree by the stronger influence of the hierarchy. Among these multitudes there arose, as before among the Jews and among the disciples (<a href="/john/6-41.htm" title="The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.">John 6:41</a>; <a href="/john/6-61.htm" title="When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said to them, Does this offend you?">John 6:61</a>), a murmuring; but the subject of this discussion is not His teaching, but His character. Their practical test-question was, Is He a good man, or a deceiver? (Comp. <a href="/matthew/27-63.htm" title="Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.">Matthew 27:63</a>.) Some would think of deeds and words which established His goodness beyond all doubt; but if He is a good man, then His claim cannot be false. Others would think of deceivers, who had led away the multitude before (comp. Notes on <a href="/context/acts/5-36.htm" title="For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nothing.">Acts 5:36-37</a>), and that He was one of them.<div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/pulpit/john/7.htm">Pulpit Commentary</a></div>Verse 12. - And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. This vivid dramatic touch lifts a veil, and we see the eager excitement of those who fancied themselves duped, or who were at least disappointed by his non-appearance. Some said one thing, and some another. One group was loud in his praises, and another suspicious either of his orthodoxy or his patriotism, or both. Some said, He is a good man; i.e. one who was unselfish, kind, true, beneficent, and honest in his intentions, and one personally trustworthy. But others said - or, were saying; i.e. the murmur, the head shaking, of others was a flat denial of his ἀγάθοτης - Nay; but (on the other hand) he leadeth the multitude astray. The "multitude" in this clause is probably the vulgar crowd, and the contemptuous reference to them may be the language of the Jerusalem populace rather than the provincial caravans. The multitude would escape from the Pharisaic leading strings, should they embrace his views either concerning the sabbath or the expected Messiah. <a href="/commentaries/john/7-12.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a> <a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Greek</div>Many πολὺς (polys) Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_4183.htm">Strong's 4183: </a> Much, many; often. in ἐν (en) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_1722.htm">Strong's 1722: </a> In, on, among. A primary preposition denoting position, and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest; 'in, ' at, on, by, etc. the τοῖς (tois) Article - Dative Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_3588.htm">Strong's 3588: </a> The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. crowds ὄχλοις (ochlois) Noun - Dative Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_3793.htm">Strong's 3793: </a> From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot. were ἦν (ēn) Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1510.htm">Strong's 1510: </a> I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist. whispering γογγυσμὸς (gongysmos) Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1112.htm">Strong's 1112: </a> Murmuring, grumbling. From gogguzo; a grumbling. about περὶ (peri) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_4012.htm">Strong's 4012: </a> From the base of peran; properly, through, i.e. Around; figuratively with respect to; used in various applications, of place, cause or time. Him. αὐτοῦ (autou) Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive Masculine 3rd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_846.htm">Strong's 846: </a> He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons. Some οἱ (hoi) Article - Nominative Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_3588.htm">Strong's 3588: </a> The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. said, ἔλεγον (elegon) Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_2036.htm">Strong's 2036: </a> Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say. “He is ἐστιν (estin) Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1510.htm">Strong's 1510: </a> I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist. a good [man].” Ἀγαθός (Agathos) Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_18.htm">Strong's 18: </a> A primary word; 'good'. But δὲ (de) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_1161.htm">Strong's 1161: </a> A primary particle; but, and, etc. others Ἄλλοι (Alloi) Adjective - Nominative Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_243.htm">Strong's 243: </a> Other, another (of more than two), different. A primary word; 'else, ' i.e. Different. replied, ἔλεγον (elegon) Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_2036.htm">Strong's 2036: </a> Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say. “No, Οὔ (Ou) Adverb <a href="/greek/strongs_3756.htm">Strong's 3756: </a> No, not. Also ouk, and ouch a primary word; the absolute negative adverb; no or not. He deceives πλανᾷ (plana) Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_4105.htm">Strong's 4105: </a> To lead astray, deceive, cause to wander. From plane; to roam. the τὸν (ton) Article - Accusative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3588.htm">Strong's 3588: </a> The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. people.” ὄχλον (ochlon) Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3793.htm">Strong's 3793: </a> From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot. <div class="vheading">Links</div><a href="/niv/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 NIV</a> <a href="/nlt/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 NLT</a> <a href="/esv/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 ESV</a> <a href="/nasb/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 NASB</a> <a href="/kjv/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 KJV</a> <a href="//bibleapps.com/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 BibleApps.com</a> <a href="//bibliaparalela.com/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 Biblia Paralela</a> <a href="//holybible.com.cn/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 Chinese Bible</a> <a href="//saintebible.com/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 French Bible</a> <a href="/catholic/john/7-12.htm">John 7:12 Catholic Bible</a> <a href="/john/7-12.htm">NT Gospels: John 7:12 There was much murmuring among the multitudes (Jhn Jo Jn) </a></div></div></td></tr></table></div><div id="left"><a href="/john/7-11.htm" onmouseover='lft.src="/leftgif.png"' onmouseout='lft.src="/left.png"' title="John 7:11"><img src="/left.png" name="lft" border="0" alt="John 7:11" /></a></div><div id="right"><a href="/john/7-13.htm" onmouseover='rght.src="/rightgif.png"' onmouseout='rght.src="/right.png"' title="John 7:13"><img src="/right.png" name="rght" border="0" alt="John 7:13" /></a></div><div id="botleft"><a href="#" onmouseover='botleft.src="/botleftgif.png"' onmouseout='botleft.src="/botleft.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botleft.png" name="botleft" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="botright"><a href="#" onmouseover='botright.src="/botrightgif.png"' onmouseout='botright.src="/botright.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botright.png" name="botright" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="bot"><iframe width="100%" height="1500" scrolling="no" src="/botmenubhnew2.htm" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></td></tr></table></div></body></html>