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</div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Citation_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_article." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_article."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.5</span> <span>Struggling with merging and moving articles in relation to the Emily Prentiss article.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_article.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.6</span> <span>Retain or remove citation indicators in quoted text?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.7</span> <span>Searching Wikipedia with Regex with Capture?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-November_25" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#November_25"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>November 25</span> </div> </a> <button aria-controls="toc-November_25-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle November 25 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-November_25-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Dara_Huang" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dara_Huang"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>Dara Huang</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dara_Huang-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Automated_edit_count?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Automated_edit_count?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>Automated edit count?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Automated_edit_count?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(untitled)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(untitled)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>(untitled)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-(untitled)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Help_with_NPS_sources" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help_with_NPS_sources"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.4</span> <span>Help with NPS sources</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Help_with_NPS_sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signature" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signature"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.5</span> <span>Signature</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Signature-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.6</span> <span>John Perrot Quaker - Add image</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Margaret_Greville" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Margaret_Greville"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.7</span> <span>Margaret Greville</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Margaret_Greville-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Username" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Username"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.8</span> <span>Username</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Username-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Suggested_edits_paused" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Suggested_edits_paused"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.9</span> <span>Suggested edits paused</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Suggested_edits_paused-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-November_26" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#November_26"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>November 26</span> </div> </a> <button aria-controls="toc-November_26-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle November 26 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-November_26-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_York_City" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_York_City"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.1</span> <span>Asking for views about validity of an List of public elementary schools in New York City</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_York_City-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mobile_app_logout_issue" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mobile_app_logout_issue"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.2</span> <span>Mobile app logout issue</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mobile_app_logout_issue-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Indigenous_identity_friad" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Indigenous_identity_friad"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.3</span> <span>Indigenous identity friad</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Indigenous_identity_friad-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Island_of_Montreal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Island_of_Montreal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.4</span> <span>Island of Montreal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Island_of_Montreal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.5</span> <span>Sandbox to Draft namespace</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-November_27" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#November_27"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>November 27</span> </div> </a> <button aria-controls="toc-November_27-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle November 27 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-November_27-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-adding_a_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#adding_a_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.1</span> <span>adding a page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-adding_a_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.2</span> <span>noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Citation_for_an_edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Citation_for_an_edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3</span> <span>Citation for an edit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Citation_for_an_edit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_information" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_information"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.4</span> <span>Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_information-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.5</span> <span>why my edits are not visible on the page??</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> 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data-language-local-name="Arabic" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya" title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya – Aragonese" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="Aragonese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-az mw-list-item"><a href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Yard%C4%B1m_masas%C4%B1" title="Vikipediya:Yardım masası – Azerbaijani" lang="az" hreflang="az" data-title="Vikipediya:Yardım masası" data-language-autonym="Azərbaycanca" data-language-local-name="Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Azərbaycanca</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-azb mw-list-item"><a href="https://azb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C/%DA%A9%D8%A4%D9%85%DA%A9_%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%B2%DB%8C" title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی/کؤمک میزی – South Azerbaijani" lang="azb" hreflang="azb" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی/کؤمک میزی" data-language-autonym="تۆرکجه" data-language-local-name="South Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>تۆرکجه</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0" title="উইকিপিডিয়া:সাহায্যকেন্দ্র – Bangla" lang="bn" hreflang="bn" data-title="উইকিপিডিয়া:সাহায্যকেন্দ্র" data-language-autonym="বাংলা" data-language-local-name="Bangla" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বাংলা</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ca mw-list-item"><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia:La_taverna/Ajuda" title="Viquipèdia:La taverna/Ajuda – Catalan" lang="ca" hreflang="ca" data-title="Viquipèdia:La taverna/Ajuda" data-language-autonym="Català" data-language-local-name="Catalan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Català</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pot%C5%99ebuji_pomoc" title="Wikipedie:Potřebuji pomoc – Czech" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikipedie:Potřebuji pomoc" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="Czech" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-de mw-list-item"><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia – German" lang="de" hreflang="de" data-title="Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia" data-language-autonym="Deutsch" data-language-local-name="German" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deutsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dv mw-list-item"><a href="https://dv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DE%88%DE%A8%DE%86%DE%A8%DE%95%DE%A9%DE%91%DE%A8%DE%87%DE%A7:%DE%87%DE%AC%DE%80%DE%A9_%DE%89%DE%AD%DE%92%DE%AA" title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:އެހީ މޭޒު – Divehi" lang="dv" hreflang="dv" data-title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:އެހީ މޭޒު" data-language-autonym="ދިވެހިބަސް" data-language-local-name="Divehi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ދިވެހިބަސް</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-el mw-list-item"><a href="https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:%CE%92%CE%BF%CE%AE%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1_%CF%87%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%83%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD" title="Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια χρηστών – Greek" lang="el" hreflang="el" data-title="Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια χρηστών" data-language-autonym="Ελληνικά" data-language-local-name="Greek" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ελληνικά</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual" title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual – Spanish" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Spanish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA_%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C" title="ویکی‌پدیا:درخواست راهنمایی – Persian" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:درخواست راهنمایی" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:A_Taberna_(axuda)" title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (axuda) – Galician" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (axuda)" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="Galician" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko mw-list-item"><a href="https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%B0%B1%EA%B3%BC:%EC%A7%88%EB%AC%B8%EB%B0%A9" title="위키백과:질문방 – Korean" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키백과:질문방" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="Korean" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi/Meja_penolong" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi/Meja penolong – Indonesian" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi/Meja penolong" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-it mw-list-item"><a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Sportello_informazioni" title="Aiuto:Sportello informazioni – Italian" lang="it" hreflang="it" data-title="Aiuto:Sportello informazioni" data-language-autonym="Italiano" data-language-local-name="Italian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Italiano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%93%D7%9C%D7%A4%D7%A7_%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%A5" title="ויקיפדיה:דלפק ייעוץ – Hebrew" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקיפדיה:דלפק ייעוץ" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="Hebrew" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a href="https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%83%95%E1%83%98%E1%83%99%E1%83%98%E1%83%9E%E1%83%94%E1%83%93%E1%83%98%E1%83%90:%E1%83%A4%E1%83%9D%E1%83%A0%E1%83%A3%E1%83%9B%E1%83%98/%E1%83%93%E1%83%90%E1%83%AE%E1%83%9B%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%90" title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/დახმარება – Georgian" lang="ka" hreflang="ka" data-title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/დახმარება" data-language-autonym="ქართული" data-language-local-name="Georgian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ქართული</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%AEk%C3%AEpediya:Pirsiyar" title="Wîkîpediya:Pirsiyar – Kurdish" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîpediya:Pirsiyar" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kurdî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lt mw-list-item"><a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedija:Pagalbos_biuras" title="Vikipedija:Pagalbos biuras – Lithuanian" lang="lt" hreflang="lt" data-title="Vikipedija:Pagalbos biuras" data-language-autonym="Lietuvių" data-language-local-name="Lithuanian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lietuvių</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%B9%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%B6" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:സഹായമേശ – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:സഹായമേശ" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mzn mw-list-item"><a href="https://mzn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7:%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7" title="رانما:راهنما – Mazanderani" lang="mzn" hreflang="mzn" data-title="رانما:راهنما" data-language-autonym="مازِرونی" data-language-local-name="Mazanderani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>مازِرونی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meja_bantuan" title="Wikipedia:Meja bantuan – Malay" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikipedia:Meja bantuan" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="Malay" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Melayu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%80%80%E1%80%AE%E1%80%95%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%92%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%A1%E1%80%80%E1%80%B0%E1%80%A1%E1%80%8A%E1%80%AE%E1%80%85%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8%E1%80%95%E1%80%BD%E1%80%B2" title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ – Burmese" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="Burmese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Helpdesk" title="Help:Helpdesk – Dutch" lang="nl" hreflang="nl" data-title="Help:Helpdesk" data-language-autonym="Nederlands" data-language-local-name="Dutch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nederlands</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B7" title="विकिपिडिया:सहायता कक्ष – Nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:सहायता कक्ष" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ja mw-list-item"><a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%88%A9%E7%94%A8%E6%A1%88%E5%86%85" title="Wikipedia:利用案内 – Japanese" lang="ja" hreflang="ja" data-title="Wikipedia:利用案内" data-language-autonym="日本語" data-language-local-name="Japanese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>日本語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uz mw-list-item"><a href="https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam" title="Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam – Uzbek" lang="uz" hreflang="uz" data-title="Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam" data-language-autonym="Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча" data-language-local-name="Uzbek" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%9A%D9%88%D8%AF_%D9%85%DB%90%D8%B2" title="ويکيپېډيا:لارښود مېز – Pashto" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:لارښود مېز" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pashto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuda:Tire_suas_d%C3%BAvidas" title="Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas – Portuguese" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="Portuguese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Português</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B" title="Википедия:Форум/Вопросы – Russian" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Вопросы" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Russian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपीडिया:प्रकीर्णसभा – Sanskrit" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:प्रकीर्णसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="Sanskrit" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>संस्कृतम्</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sco mw-list-item"><a href="https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk – Scots" lang="sco" hreflang="sco" data-title="Wikipedia:Help desk" data-language-autonym="Scots" data-language-local-name="Scots" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Scots</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%93%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F:%E0%B6%8B%E0%B6%AF%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%94_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%85%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%80" title="විකිපීඩියා:උදවු කවුළුව – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:උදවු කවුළුව" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%AA%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%DA%8A%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%AF_%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B2" title="وڪيپيڊيا:مدد ميز – Sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:مدد ميز" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="Sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سنڌي</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Potrebujem_pomoc" title="Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc – Slovak" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slovak" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sl mw-list-item"><a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Forum_za_pomo%C4%8D" title="Wikipedija:Forum za pomoč – Slovenian" lang="sl" hreflang="sl" data-title="Wikipedija:Forum za pomoč" data-language-autonym="Slovenščina" data-language-local-name="Slovenian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenščina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%A7" title="ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا – Central Kurdish" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="Central Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>کوردی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(Wikipedian_k%C3%A4yt%C3%B6n_neuvonta)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (Wikipedian käytön neuvonta) – Finnish" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (Wikipedian käytön neuvonta)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Finnish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sv mw-list-item"><a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipediafr%C3%A5gor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipediafrågor – Swedish" lang="sv" hreflang="sv" data-title="Wikipedia:Wikipediafrågor" data-language-autonym="Svenska" data-language-local-name="Swedish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Svenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%92%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D" title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஒத்தாசைப் பக்கம் – Tamil" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஒத்தாசைப் பக்கம்" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="Tamil" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>தமிழ்</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80" title="Википедия:Сораулар – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Сораулар" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A1_(%E0%B0%B8%E0%B0%B9%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%AE%E0%B1%81)" title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సహాయము) – Telugu" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సహాయము)" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="Telugu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>తెలుగు</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2:%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%8A%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD" title="วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ – Thai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ" data-language-autonym="ไทย" 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id="h-November_24-20241124050200"></span>November 24<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_24-20241124050200"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: November 24"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_mine?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m-November_24-20241124050200"><span id="Please_remind_me.E2.80.94how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_mine.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m-November_24-20241124050200"></span>Please remind me—how should I deal with an anonymous reversion of an edit of mine?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m-November_24-20241124050200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Please remind me—how should I deal with an anonymous reversion of an edit of mine?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DocWatson42-20241124050200-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m"></span>Greetings and felicitations. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_I%27m_a_Spider%2C_So_What%3F&oldid=prev&diff=1254584858">An edit of mine</a> was reverted by a <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:8081:5900:16A1:DD8A:31B6:350B:5828" title="Special:Contributions/2603:8081:5900:16A1:DD8A:31B6:350B:5828">MAC-address user</a>. How do I deal with this, please? —<a href="/wiki/User:DocWatson42" title="User:DocWatson42">DocWatson42</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DocWatson42" title="User talk:DocWatson42">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-DocWatson42-20241124050200-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DocWatson42-20241124050200-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DocWatson42-20241124050200-Please_remind_me—how_should_I_deal_with_an_anonymous_reversion_of_an_edit_of_m"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20241124053300-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span>I see that you posted about this on the article talk page on 1 November to look for consensus, which would have been my first suggestion. It would be helpful to explain the reason for the edit on the talk page, was your edit a manual of style correction? <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20241124053300-DocWatson42-20241124050200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20241124053300-DocWatson42-20241124050200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20241124053300-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maproom-20241124090600-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span>On the talk page, you should cite <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Dashes" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Dashes</a>, which explicitly recommens "An em dash is <i>unspaced</i> on both sides". <a href="/wiki/User:Maproom" title="User:Maproom">Maproom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maproom" title="User talk:Maproom">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Maproom-20241124090600-DocWatson42-20241124050200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maproom-20241124090600-DocWatson42-20241124050200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maproom-20241124090600-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124203500-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span>On an unrelated note, please be aware that it was reverted by an <a href="/wiki/IPv6" title="IPv6">IPv6</a> user, not a MAC address, they look similar but are indeed different things. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241124203500-DocWatson42-20241124050200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124203500-DocWatson42-20241124050200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241124203500-DocWatson42-20241124050200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_payment._Please_let_me_know_how_to_donate._My_email_address_is_<redacted>._Thank_you." data-mw-thread-id="h-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen-November_24-20241124060400"><span id="I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check.2C_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_payment._Please_let_me_know_how_to_donate._My_email_address_is_.3Credacted.3E._Thank_you."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen-November_24-20241124060400"></span>I would be happy to donate by check, but do not use electronic methods of payment. Please let me know how to donate. My email address is <redacted>. Thank you.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen-November_24-20241124060400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: I would be happy to donate by check, but do not use electronic methods of payment. Please let me know how to donate. My email address is <redacted>. Thank you."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-208.254.116.194-20241124060400-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen"></span>I would be happy to donate by check, but do not use electronic methods of payment. Please let me know how to donate. My email address is <redacted>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.254.116.194" title="Special:Contributions/208.254.116.194">208.254.116.194</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:208.254.116.194" title="User talk:208.254.116.194">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-208.254.116.194-20241124060400-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-208.254.116.194-20241124060400-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-208.254.116.194-20241124060400-I_would_be_happy_to_donate_by_check,_but_do_not_use_electronic_methods_of_paymen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241124061200-208.254.116.194-20241124060400"></span>See <a href="https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donate_by_mail" class="extiw" title="donate:Donate by mail">donate:Donate by mail</a>. But do note that the Wikimedia Foundation generally has more than enough money. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Pppery-20241124061200-208.254.116.194-20241124060400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241124061200-208.254.116.194-20241124060400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241124061200-208.254.116.194-20241124060400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Antisemitism_sidebar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar-November_24-20241124071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar-November_24-20241124071800"></span>Template:Antisemitism sidebar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar-November_24-20241124071800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Template:Antisemitism sidebar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20241124071800-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar"></span>Can we get a few eyes over at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Antisemitism_sidebar#People_section_(Nov_2024)" title="Template talk:Antisemitism sidebar">Template talk:Antisemitism sidebar#People section (Nov 2024)</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Moxy-20241124071800-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20241124071800-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20241124071800-Template:Antisemitism_sidebar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601AC47-20241124174700-Moxy-20241124071800"></span>Appears to be well at hand. Does it need EC protection? <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601AC47" title="User talk:2601AC47">talk</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601AC47" title="Special:Contributions/2601AC47">contribs</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/2601AC47" title="Special:UserRights/2601AC47">my rights</a>) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2601AC47-20241124174700-Moxy-20241124071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601AC47-20241124174700-Moxy-20241124071800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601AC47-20241124174700-Moxy-20241124071800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Citation_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Citation_template-November_24-20241124141400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Citation_template-November_24-20241124141400"></span>Citation template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Citation_template-November_24-20241124141400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Citation template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JimPercy-20241124141400-Citation_template"></span>It seems that the preferred way of referencing has changed over time. For instance, I started up earlier this year the WP article titled, "<a href="/wiki/American_Junior_Red_Cross" title="American Junior Red Cross">American Junior Red Cross</a>." I used the old referencing method. What is the purpose of inserting retrieval dates? They serve no purpose when links go to depositories like HathiTrust. The content in printed newspapers and magazines can't be updated. Is the current citation template now preferred in all instances? Should my references at "American Junior Red Cross" be rewritten? (The only reference there using the standard template is not mine.) Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:JimPercy" title="User:JimPercy">JimPercy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JimPercy" title="User talk:JimPercy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-JimPercy-20241124141400-Citation_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JimPercy-20241124141400-Citation_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JimPercy-20241124141400-Citation_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:JimPercy" title="User:JimPercy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20241124170800-JimPercy-20241124141400"></span>JimPercy</a>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|access-date=</code> is entirely unnecessary cruft when applied to print sources. Not only are you not required to add it, but you can remove it or comment it out from citations to print sources if you prefer. It tends to get added to everything by scripts that don't know any better. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Folly_Mox-20241124170800-JimPercy-20241124141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20241124170800-JimPercy-20241124141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20241124170800-JimPercy-20241124141400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20241124174900-Folly_Mox-20241124170800"></span>Relevant discussion at <a href="/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1/Archive_91#Do_we_need_|access-date_?" title="Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 91">Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 91 § Do we need |access-date ?</a> (November 2023). <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Folly_Mox-20241124174900-Folly_Mox-20241124170800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20241124174900-Folly_Mox-20241124170800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20241124174900-Folly_Mox-20241124170800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20241124172600-JimPercy-20241124141400"></span>There is guidance on changing citation styles at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEVAR">WP:CITEVAR</a>, which starts by saying <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change</q>. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20241124172600-JimPercy-20241124141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20241124172600-JimPercy-20241124141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20241124172600-JimPercy-20241124141400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JimPercy-20241124214500-TSventon-20241124172600"></span>Thanks for both replies. I know that an article's citation style should not be altered. But some people might still think that modernization is in order. That discussion page was interesting. I will have to go over the different thoughts again later. Someone said something about how there should be a template that automatically deletes access dates for magazines and newspapers. <a href="/wiki/User:JimPercy" title="User:JimPercy">JimPercy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JimPercy" title="User talk:JimPercy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-JimPercy-20241124214500-TSventon-20241124172600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JimPercy-20241124214500-TSventon-20241124172600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JimPercy-20241124214500-TSventon-20241124172600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_article." data-mw-thread-id="h-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar-November_24-20241124172000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar-November_24-20241124172000"></span>Struggling with merging and moving articles in relation to the Emily Prentiss article.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar-November_24-20241124172000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Struggling with merging and moving articles in relation to the Emily Prentiss article."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DocZach-20241124172000-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar"></span>I have been struggling with merging and moving the Emily Prentiss article. I have a draft for Emily Prentiss (a Criminal Minds character) that I'd like to move to mainspace, but the only way I know how to do that would be to copy and paste the content onto the current page for Emily Prentiss, which serves as a redirect to the List of Criminal Minds characters. However, I think I might have accidentally messed that up, and now I'm confused on what to do. </p><p><b>Here are the links to the articles in question if someone can help:</b> </p><p><a href="/wiki/List_of_Criminal_Minds_characters" title="List of Criminal Minds characters">List of Criminal Minds characters</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Emily_Prentiss_(Criminal_Minds)" class="mw-redirect" title="Emily Prentiss (Criminal Minds)">Emily Prentiss</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Emily_Prentiss_(Criminal_Minds)" class="mw-redirect" title="Emily Prentiss (Criminal Minds)">Emily Prentiss (Criminal Minds)</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Draft:Emily_Prentiss" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Emily Prentiss">Draft:Emily Prentiss</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DocZach" title="User:DocZach">DocZach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DocZach" title="User talk:DocZach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-DocZach-20241124172000-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DocZach-20241124172000-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DocZach-20241124172000-Struggling_with_merging_and_moving_articles_in_relation_to_the_Emily_Prentiss_ar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ColinFine-20241124173700-DocZach-20241124172000"></span>Hello, @<a href="/wiki/User:DocZach" title="User:DocZach">DocZach</a>. I'm not seeing why this character meets Wikipedia's criteria for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>; but if you think she does, the way to proceed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Move">move</a> a draft over a redirect is to post a request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM/T" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM/T">WP:RM/T</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20241124173700-DocZach-20241124172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ColinFine-20241124173700-DocZach-20241124172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ColinFine-20241124173700-DocZach-20241124172000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?-November_24-20241124195400"><span id="Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?-November_24-20241124195400"></span>Retain or remove citation indicators in quoted text?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?-November_24-20241124195400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Retain or remove citation indicators in quoted text?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tsavage-20241124195400-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?"></span>Example article text: </p> <dl><dd>There are "two ways to go about this¹ that deserve consideration",¹ one of them "far more preferable for enlightenment purposes (Gergen, 1990) than the other low-information approach."²</dd></dl> <p>The direct quotes from two cited sources each use different citation indicator styles, one with superscripts the other with parentheses. </p><p>My question is, for readability, can I remove one or both of the citation indicators, ie: ¹, (Gergen, 1990)? </p><p>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tsavage" title="User talk:Tsavage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tsavage-20241124195400-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tsavage-20241124195400-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tsavage-20241124195400-Retain_or_remove_citation_indicators_in_quoted_text?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StarryGrandma-20241124203400-Tsavage-20241124195400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a>, it looks like the the parenthetical reference is part of the quoted material rather than a citation in Wikipedia, while the numbers are for Wikipedia citations. It might help to know what article this is from to see the context. <a href="/wiki/User:StarryGrandma" title="User:StarryGrandma">StarryGrandma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StarryGrandma" title="User talk:StarryGrandma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-StarryGrandma-20241124203400-Tsavage-20241124195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StarryGrandma-20241124203400-Tsavage-20241124195400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StarryGrandma-20241124203400-Tsavage-20241124195400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tsavage-20241124220800-StarryGrandma-20241124203400"></span>Thanks. There's no particular context, it's a general question, with a made-up example. I'm referring to citations <u>as they appear in quoted material</u>, not citations created in Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>My understanding right now (which could be wrong), is that superscript and parentheses are equivalent citation styles, both intended for exactly the same purpose of pointing to a footnoted source; although the parenthetical style provides extra information (eg: author, year), that is not intentional, it's not meant to add to the text. <a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tsavage" title="User talk:Tsavage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tsavage-20241124220800-StarryGrandma-20241124203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tsavage-20241124220800-StarryGrandma-20241124203400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tsavage-20241124220800-StarryGrandma-20241124203400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124223600-Tsavage-20241124220800"></span>This wouldn't be the correct place to ask a question for things that are outside of Wikipedia. But if you were thinking about bringing a quotation into Wikipedia, then inline citations that are part of the quote itself, such as Gergen above, could be kept as they are the quoted source materials reference. However the superscript reference would be replaced with a natural wikipedia based reference tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241124223600-Tsavage-20241124220800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124223600-Tsavage-20241124220800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241124223600-Tsavage-20241124220800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tsavage-20241125012600-Tiggerjay-20241124223600"></span>|| the superscript reference would be replaced with a natural wikipedia based reference tag</dd> <dd>If the source text uses citations in the superscript number style, are you suggesting that I recreate those citations in the quoted material in Wikipedia?</dd> <dd>All I'm asking is whether it is accepted practice to remove the citation indicators, regardless of what style they're in, when quoting material in the text of a Wikipedia article? <a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tsavage" title="User talk:Tsavage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tsavage-20241125012600-Tiggerjay-20241124223600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tsavage-20241125012600-Tiggerjay-20241124223600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tsavage-20241125012600-Tiggerjay-20241124223600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20241125044600-Tsavage-20241125012600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a>, I think the answer is likely to depend on the details of a particular article, so it would be better to come back with a real example if you find one. Wikipedia only uses <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Brief quotations of copyrighted text</q>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Text" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">Wikipedia:Non-free content#Text</a>, so putting the content into your own words may be preferable. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20241125044600-Tsavage-20241125012600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20241125044600-Tsavage-20241125012600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20241125044600-Tsavage-20241125012600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tsavage-20241125111900-TSventon-20241125044600"></span>Thanks. There's no "real example", I'm trying to find out if there's a Wikipedia convention for this situation. I think the general, or at least safest, answer is to preserve citation indicators in quoted text, in order to fully represent the source. Which is what I'll do! <a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tsavage" title="User talk:Tsavage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tsavage-20241125111900-TSventon-20241125044600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tsavage-20241125111900-TSventon-20241125044600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tsavage-20241125111900-TSventon-20241125044600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20241125112500-Tsavage-20241125111900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tsavage" title="User:Tsavage">Tsavage</a>, I agree that preserving citation indicators is safest. The question is somewhat obscure, so you could try the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a> talk page when you have a real example. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20241125112500-Tsavage-20241125111900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20241125112500-Tsavage-20241125111900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20241125112500-Tsavage-20241125111900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?-November_24-20241124225600"><span id="Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?-November_24-20241124225600"></span>Searching Wikipedia with Regex with Capture?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?-November_24-20241124225600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Searching Wikipedia with Regex with Capture?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naraht-20241124225600-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"></span>I have a more complicated use case, but I'm wondering whether any of the message of searching Wikipedia would allow for searching *with* capture, so for example if I'd like to find pages where AAA Pan BBB Pan CCC would be found because it is Pan in both places, but *not* AAA Pan BBB Pot CCC because Pan and Pot are different. </p><p>(Actual use case, looking for pages with entries like [[Omega Psi Phi|Omega Psi Phi fraternity]] so regex would be <code> /\[\[[A-Z][a-z]* [A-Z][a-z]* [A-Z][a-z]*\|\1 / </code> ) Is Cirrus my only option (or would even *that* allow it) </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Naraht" title="User:Naraht">Naraht</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naraht" title="User talk:Naraht">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Naraht-20241124225600-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naraht-20241124225600-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naraht-20241124225600-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cryptic-20241124232500-Naraht-20241124225600"></span>Cirrus doesn't support it, no - its regex engine is frustratingly impractical for anything even a little more complex than toy examples. And I'm not aware of any other way to search wikitext without expending a huge amount of effort, namely, downloading a dump of mainspace, either importing it into a sql engine or parsing it yourself or with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB">WP:AWB</a>, and searching <i>that</i>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Cryptic-20241124232500-Naraht-20241124225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cryptic-20241124232500-Naraht-20241124225600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cryptic-20241124232500-Naraht-20241124225600"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_a_query" title="Wikipedia:Request a query"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125042500-Naraht-20241124225600"></span>Wikipedia:Request a query</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125042500-Naraht-20241124225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125042500-Naraht-20241124225600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125042500-Naraht-20241124225600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cryptic-20241125075800-PrimeHunter-20241125042500"></span>Would tell you to come back here or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a>. "Quarry does not have access to page content, so queries which require checking wikitext cannot be answered with Quarry." We'd be able to see pages with links to <a href="/wiki/Omega_Psi_Phi" title="Omega Psi Phi">Omega Psi Phi</a>, but not the text it's piped to, or even that it's piped. —<a href="/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Cryptic-20241125075800-PrimeHunter-20241125042500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cryptic-20241125075800-PrimeHunter-20241125042500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cryptic-20241125075800-PrimeHunter-20241125042500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20241125082100-Naraht-20241124225600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Naraht" title="User:Naraht">Naraht</a>:</span> See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#AutoWikiBrowser_and_searching_for_pages_with_capture_regex." title="Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser">Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#AutoWikiBrowser_and_searching_for_pages_with_capture_regex.</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-John_of_Reading-20241125082100-Naraht-20241124225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20241125082100-Naraht-20241124225600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20241125082100-Naraht-20241124225600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naraht-20241125135200-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Helped</b><a href="/wiki/User:Naraht" title="User:Naraht">Naraht</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naraht" title="User talk:Naraht">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Naraht-20241125135200-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naraht-20241125135200-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naraht-20241125135200-Searching_Wikipedia_with_Regex_with_Capture?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="November_25" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_25-20241125030000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-November_25-20241125030000"></span>November 25<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_25-20241125030000"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: November 25"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dara_Huang" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dara_Huang-November_25-20241125030000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dara_Huang-November_25-20241125030000"></span>Dara Huang<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dara_Huang-November_25-20241125030000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Dara Huang"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Dara_Huang" title="Dara Huang"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Srbernadette-20241125030000-Dara_Huang"></span>Dara Huang</a> </p><p>Re number 5 is not quite right. Please fix - I cannot do this, sorry. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Srbernadette&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Srbernadette (page does not exist)">Srbernadette</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Srbernadette" title="User talk:Srbernadette">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Srbernadette-20241125030000-Dara_Huang" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Srbernadette-20241125030000-Dara_Huang"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Srbernadette-20241125030000-Dara_Huang"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241125034700-Srbernadette-20241125030000"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Srbernadette&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Srbernadette (page does not exist)">Srbernadette</a> Fixed. There was a special character in the date parameter, and the date was incomplete. <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241125034700-Srbernadette-20241125030000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241125034700-Srbernadette-20241125030000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241125034700-Srbernadette-20241125030000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Automated_edit_count?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Automated_edit_count?-November_25-20241125035000"><span id="Automated_edit_count.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Automated_edit_count?-November_25-20241125035000"></span>Automated edit count?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Automated_edit_count?-November_25-20241125035000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Automated edit count?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241125035000-Automated_edit_count?"></span>Would anyone know if it's possible to automate the edit count figure on <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">my user page</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241125035000-Automated_edit_count?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241125035000-Automated_edit_count?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241125035000-Automated_edit_count?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241125035100-Sandcat555-20241125035000"></span>perhaps with a bot or something? <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241125035100-Sandcat555-20241125035000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241125035100-Sandcat555-20241125035000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241125035100-Sandcat555-20241125035000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20241125043500-Sandcat555-20241125035100"></span>I could have sworn this was possible, but the best I can find for you right now is <a href="/wiki/Template:Editcount" title="Template:Editcount">Template:Editcount</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Asilvering-20241125043500-Sandcat555-20241125035100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20241125043500-Sandcat555-20241125035100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20241125043500-Sandcat555-20241125035100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600-Asilvering-20241125043500"></span>Various stats for your account are available here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Sandcat555">https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Sandcat555</a> and are usually up to date (occasionally there can be a lag of a couple of minutes). <a href="/wiki/User:Feline_Hymnic" title="User:Feline Hymnic">Feline Hymnic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feline_Hymnic" title="User talk:Feline Hymnic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600-Asilvering-20241125043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600-Asilvering-20241125043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600-Asilvering-20241125043500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20241125164400-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"></span>Yes, but that won't automate the edit count on someone's userpage. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Asilvering-20241125164400-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20241125164400-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20241125164400-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241125215800-Asilvering-20241125164400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">Asilvering</a> Would a bot somehow be able to see the wmcloud page and then auto edit my userpage? <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241125215800-Asilvering-20241125164400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241125215800-Asilvering-20241125164400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241125215800-Asilvering-20241125164400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125220300-Sandcat555-20241125215800"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Frequently_denied_bots#Bots_to_update_edit_counts" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests/Frequently denied bots">Wikipedia:Bot requests/Frequently denied bots#Bots to update edit counts</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125220300-Sandcat555-20241125215800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125220300-Sandcat555-20241125215800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125220300-Sandcat555-20241125215800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241126032800-PrimeHunter-20241125220300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> Dang. I was really hoping this was a thing. <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241126032800-PrimeHunter-20241125220300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241126032800-PrimeHunter-20241125220300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241126032800-PrimeHunter-20241125220300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241125215700-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Feline_Hymnic" title="User:Feline Hymnic">Feline Hymnic</a> I already have that linked on my userpage. I was wondering if the actual number can be automatically updated <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sandcat555-20241125215700-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241125215700-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241125215700-Feline_Hymnic-20241125120600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122900-Sandcat555-20241125215700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> If you activate the gadget <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POP">navigation popups</a> then one of the things you get when you hover over another user's name (or your own) is information including edit count. That's all I need to see you are currently at 765 edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122900-Sandcat555-20241125215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122900-Sandcat555-20241125215700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122900-Sandcat555-20241125215700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="(untitled)" data-mw-thread-id="h-(untitled)-November_25-20241125073600"><span id=".28untitled.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(untitled)-November_25-20241125073600"></span>(untitled)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(untitled)-November_25-20241125073600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: (untitled)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600-(untitled)"></span>I gave you $110 a few years ago. Seeing that you're constantly begging for a $2.75 "donation", I should be exempt for the next 33+ years. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365">2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600-(untitled)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600-(untitled)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600-(untitled)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CanonNi-20241125074500-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600"></span>Wikipedia has no way to link donations to a specific account or IP address. You are not obliged to donate, and if you don't want to, you can always close the annoying ads. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace"><b>'''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]'''</b></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-CanonNi-20241125074500-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CanonNi-20241125074500-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CanonNi-20241125074500-2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365-20241125073600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ianmacm-20241125075100-CanonNi-20241125074500"></span>One of the problems with IP editing is that you do get to see regular messages asking for donations. If you are logged in as a user, you can avoid this.--<i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm"><span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a></sup></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Ianmacm-20241125075100-CanonNi-20241125074500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ianmacm-20241125075100-CanonNi-20241125074500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ianmacm-20241125075100-CanonNi-20241125074500"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601AC47-20241125132000-Ianmacm-20241125075100"></span>You both read my mind; FYI, see what I said above about concerns over donations.</small> <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601AC47" title="User talk:2601AC47">talk</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601AC47" title="Special:Contributions/2601AC47">contribs</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/2601AC47" title="Special:UserRights/2601AC47">my rights</a>) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2601AC47-20241125132000-Ianmacm-20241125075100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601AC47-20241125132000-Ianmacm-20241125075100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601AC47-20241125132000-Ianmacm-20241125075100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_with_NPS_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_with_NPS_sources-November_25-20241125095700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_with_NPS_sources-November_25-20241125095700"></span>Help with NPS sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_with_NPS_sources-November_25-20241125095700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Help with NPS sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700-Help_with_NPS_sources"></span>Hello, </p><p>NPS nomination forms have a section for "representation in existing surveys," as seen <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dhr.virginia.gov/VLR_to_transfer/PDFNoms/043-0019_Walkerton_1984_Final_Nomination.pdf">here</a> on the bottom of the first page. What does this mean? Does it have something to do with a broader area-wide geographic survey, or a more specific historical site survey? Thanks so much! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700-Help_with_NPS_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700-Help_with_NPS_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700-Help_with_NPS_sources"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241126222600-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700"></span>Answered at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Help_with_NPS_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities">Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Help with NPS sources</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241126222600-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241126222600-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241126222600-JuxtaposedJacob-20241125095700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Signature" data-mw-thread-id="h-Signature-November_25-20241125122300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signature-November_25-20241125122300"></span>Signature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signature-November_25-20241125122300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Signature"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Garudam-20241125122300-Signature"></span>Hello, I'm trying to make my signature but it can't be fixed. Here's what my signature should look like: <b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam"><span style="color: black;"><b>Garudam</b></span></a> </span></b><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Garudam" title="User talk:Garudam"><span style="color: gray;"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></span></a></sup> </p><p>But as you can see it's currently messed. Please someone tell me how it can be fixed? And what error I'm making in this syntax: <a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam">'''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]</sup></span>'''</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Garudam" title="User talk:Garudam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Garudam-20241125122300-Signature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Garudam-20241125122300-Signature"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Garudam-20241125122300-Signature"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125125300-Garudam-20241125122300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam">Garudam</a>:</span> Select "Treat the above as wiki markup" below the signature field. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125125300-Garudam-20241125122300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125125300-Garudam-20241125122300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125125300-Garudam-20241125122300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Garudam-20241125125400-PrimeHunter-20241125125300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> I did exactly but it shows some syntax error like "span" <a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam">'''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]</sup></span>'''</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Garudam" title="User talk:Garudam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Garudam-20241125125400-PrimeHunter-20241125125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Garudam-20241125125400-PrimeHunter-20241125125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Garudam-20241125125400-PrimeHunter-20241125125300"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130300-Garudam-20241125125400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam">Garudam</a>:</span> You are missing two <code></span></code> as the message should say. Adding them should work: <code>'''<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color: black;">'''Garudam'''</span>]]</span> '''<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!'''''</span>]]</sup></code>. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125130300-Garudam-20241125125400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130300-Garudam-20241125125400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130300-Garudam-20241125125400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Garudam-20241125130800-PrimeHunter-20241125130300"></span>That helps @<a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> Thanks. <b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a href="/wiki/User:Garudam" title="User:Garudam"><span style="color: black;"><b>Garudam</b></span></a></span> </b><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Garudam" title="User talk:Garudam"><span style="color: gray;"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Garudam-20241125130800-PrimeHunter-20241125130300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Garudam-20241125130800-PrimeHunter-20241125130300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Garudam-20241125130800-PrimeHunter-20241125130300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image" data-mw-thread-id="h-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image-November_25-20241125125300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image-November_25-20241125125300"></span>John Perrot Quaker - Add image<span data-mw-comment-end="h-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image-November_25-20241125125300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: John Perrot Quaker - Add image"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image"></span>Hi, I have uploaded a copyright free Wikimedia Commons image of the above but am struggling to incorporate it in the article. Your help would be much appreciated, I used to be able to do this but I'm getting old! </p> <ul><li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Perrot_Quaker.png" class="extiw" title="c:File:John Perrot Quaker.png">c:File:John Perrot Quaker.png</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/John_Perrot_(Quaker)" title="John Perrot (Quaker)">John Perrot (Quaker)</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Horatius_At_The_Bridge" title="User:Horatius At The Bridge">Horatius At The Bridge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horatius_At_The_Bridge" title="User talk:Horatius At The Bridge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300-John_Perrot_Quaker_-_Add_image"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130900-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Horatius_At_The_Bridge" title="User:Horatius At The Bridge">Horatius At The Bridge</a>:</span> I have added it to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_person" title="Template:Infobox person">Infobox person</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with <code>|image=</code>.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Perrot_(Quaker)&diff=prev&oldid=1259488317">[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125130900-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130900-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125130900-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125125300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125133700-PrimeHunter-20241125130900"></span>Many thanks <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Horatius_At_The_Bridge" title="User:Horatius At The Bridge">Horatius At The Bridge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horatius_At_The_Bridge" title="User talk:Horatius At The Bridge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125133700-PrimeHunter-20241125130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125133700-PrimeHunter-20241125130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horatius_At_The_Bridge-20241125133700-PrimeHunter-20241125130900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Margaret_Greville" data-mw-thread-id="h-Margaret_Greville-November_25-20241125141100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Margaret_Greville-November_25-20241125141100"></span>Margaret Greville<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Margaret_Greville-November_25-20241125141100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Margaret Greville"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-13truthknown-20241125141100-Margaret_Greville"></span>There are two pages about <a href="/wiki/Margaret_Greville" title="Margaret Greville">Margaret Greville</a>. I am a Research Historian - as a Volunteer at Polesden Lacey. I have written a book also which is the Maggie Greville Story. I have researched for more than thirteen years the history of Maggie Greville, her father William McEwan and Polesden Lacey. I wish to change the existing article totally.It contains misinformation. It is not correct. I have a huge number of references to prove my research. How can I remove the existing article and provide a new article which tells the truth, and is far more interesting? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:13truthknown&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:13truthknown (page does not exist)">13truthknown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:13truthknown" title="User talk:13truthknown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-13truthknown-20241125141100-Margaret_Greville" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-13truthknown-20241125141100-Margaret_Greville"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-13truthknown-20241125141100-Margaret_Greville"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145500-13truthknown-20241125141100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:13truthknown&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:13truthknown (page does not exist)">13truthknown</a> You do not start a new article, you improve the existing one, one bit at a time. A WP-article on any subject is meant to be a summary of reliable sources (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>) on that subject, and if you wish to make edits that can "stick", you need to understand what sources are considered reliable around here, and guidance like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SELFCITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SELFCITE">WP:SELFCITE</a>. You need to know how to add references correctly in the WP-environment, this is <i>essential</i>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TUTORIAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TUTORIAL">WP:TUTORIAL</a> has a start on that.</dd> <dd>My suggestion is: start small. Make a few edits, see what happens, then make a few more. If other editors react, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMUNICATE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMUNICATE">WP:COMMUNICATE</a>. Do not throw out existing sources in favor of your book. If your book is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SELFPUB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SELFPUB">WP:SELFPUB</a>, don't use it as a source at all. Hope this helps some. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145500-13truthknown-20241125141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145500-13truthknown-20241125141100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145500-13truthknown-20241125141100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700-13truthknown-20241125141100"></span>Btw, if you meant there are two WP-articles about <a href="/wiki/Margaret_Greville" title="Margaret Greville">Margaret Greville</a>, which is the other one, please? That might need fixing. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700-13truthknown-20241125141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700-13truthknown-20241125141100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700-13truthknown-20241125141100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:13truthknown&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:13truthknown (page does not exist)">13truthknown</a> Incidentally, Wikipedia doesn't claim to give readers the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TRUTH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TRUTH">truth</a> (see that link). Instead, by policy, we ensure that facts in our articles can be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VERIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VERIFY">verified</a> from the sources we quote. The article on Margaret Greville was first created in 2007 and has been improved incrementally by many editors since then, which is why you should follow Gråbergs Gråa Sång's advice. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125145700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimfbleak-20241125161900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:13truthknown&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:13truthknown (page does not exist)">13truthknown</a>, as has already been said, a self-written book, particularly if self-published or published by a vanity press is never going to be an acceptable source. If you have access to proper <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources">independent verifiable sources</a>, by all means use them to improve the article, but no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research </a> please <a href="/wiki/User:Jimfbleak" title="User:Jimfbleak"><b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b></a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimfbleak" title="User talk:Jimfbleak"><i style="font-family:arial;color:green">talk to me?</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Jimfbleak-20241125161900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimfbleak-20241125161900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimfbleak-20241125161900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241125150800"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Margaret_Greville,_6th_Baroness_Willoughby_de_Broke" title="Margaret Greville, 6th Baroness Willoughby de Broke"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimfbleak-20241125162500-Jimfbleak-20241125161900"></span>Margaret Greville, 6th Baroness Willoughby de Broke</a> is a different person <a href="/wiki/User:Jimfbleak" title="User:Jimfbleak"><b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b></a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimfbleak" title="User talk:Jimfbleak"><i style="font-family:arial;color:green">talk to me?</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Jimfbleak-20241125162500-Jimfbleak-20241125161900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimfbleak-20241125162500-Jimfbleak-20241125161900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimfbleak-20241125162500-Jimfbleak-20241125161900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimfbleak-20241126111700-Jimfbleak-20241125162500"></span>Just a heads-up that an SPA removed a referenced section regarding Greville's pro-Nazi inclinations <a href="/wiki/User:Jimfbleak" title="User:Jimfbleak"><b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b></a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimfbleak" title="User talk:Jimfbleak"><i style="font-family:arial;color:green">talk to me?</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Jimfbleak-20241126111700-Jimfbleak-20241125162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimfbleak-20241126111700-Jimfbleak-20241125162500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimfbleak-20241126111700-Jimfbleak-20241125162500"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MaudThomas76"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241126164000-Jimfbleak-20241126111700"></span>That's... technically correct, I guess.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241126164000-Jimfbleak-20241126111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241126164000-Jimfbleak-20241126111700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241126164000-Jimfbleak-20241126111700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Username" data-mw-thread-id="h-Username-November_25-20241125160600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Username-November_25-20241125160600"></span>Username<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Username-November_25-20241125160600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Username"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnasher24-20241125160600-Username"></span>Help please every username I offer has been taken no matter how random <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnasher24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnasher24 (page does not exist)">Gnasher24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnasher24" title="User talk:Gnasher24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gnasher24-20241125160600-Username" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnasher24-20241125160600-Username"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnasher24-20241125160600-Username"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241125161300-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnasher24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnasher24 (page does not exist)">Gnasher24</a>, you already have a Wikipedia account (your username is @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnasher24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnasher24 (page does not exist)">Gnasher24</a>). So unsure what you are asking here? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Qcne-20241125161300-Gnasher24-20241125160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241125161300-Gnasher24-20241125160600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241125161300-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125161500-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span>Also, WP has over 116 million registered user-accounts, that's quite a lot of taken user-names. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125161500-Gnasher24-20241125160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125161500-Gnasher24-20241125160600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241125161500-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shantavira-20241125173900-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnasher24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnasher24 (page does not exist)">Gnasher24</a> Gnasher25 is available (etc). <a href="/wiki/User:Shantavira" title="User:Shantavira">Shantavira</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shantavira" title="User talk:Shantavira"><sup>feed me</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Shantavira-20241125173900-Gnasher24-20241125160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shantavira-20241125173900-Gnasher24-20241125160600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shantavira-20241125173900-Gnasher24-20241125160600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500-Shantavira-20241125173900"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnasher24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnasher24 (page does not exist)">Gnasher24</a> You can use <a href="/wiki/Special:ListUsers" title="Special:ListUsers">Special:ListUsers</a> to search over existing usernames and see what might be available. Read the instructions at the top of that page carefully. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500-Shantavira-20241125173900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500-Shantavira-20241125173900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500-Shantavira-20241125173900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241126122900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500"></span>A username can also be rejected if it looks too similar to an existing name. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241126122900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241126122900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241126122900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126122500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggested_edits_paused" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggested_edits_paused-November_25-20241125173900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggested_edits_paused-November_25-20241125173900"></span>Suggested edits paused<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggested_edits_paused-November_25-20241125173900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Suggested edits paused"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lokkyboy-20241125173900-Suggested_edits_paused"></span>Hello, I noticed that my suggested edits have been paused until December 1, 2024. The notification mentioned some contributions were reverted, but I wasn't provided with specific details. Could someone please help clarify why this happened and how I can resolve it? Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Lokkyboy" title="User:Lokkyboy">Lokkyboy</a> ([User talk : Lokkyboy|talk]) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Lokkyboy-20241125173900-Suggested_edits_paused" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Lokkyboy" title="User:Lokkyboy">Lokkyboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lokkyboy#top" title="User talk:Lokkyboy">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy" title="Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy">contribs</a>) </small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lokkyboy-20241125173900-Suggested_edits_paused"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lokkyboy-20241125173900-Suggested_edits_paused"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ColinFine-20241125194800-Lokkyboy-20241125173900"></span>I can't tell what you are referring to. Please clarify: where did you make these suggested edits? <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20241125194800-Lokkyboy-20241125173900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ColinFine-20241125194800-Lokkyboy-20241125173900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ColinFine-20241125194800-Lokkyboy-20241125173900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241125201500-ColinFine-20241125194800"></span>I think they are referring to the <b>Suggested edits</b> widget on <a href="/wiki/Special:Homepage" title="Special:Homepage">Special:Homepage</a> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Qcne-20241125201500-ColinFine-20241125194800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241125201500-ColinFine-20241125194800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241125201500-ColinFine-20241125194800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125215400-Qcne-20241125201500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Lokkyboy" title="User:Lokkyboy">Lokkyboy</a>:</span> You have apparently encountered a feature specific to the Android app: <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Suggested_Edits_3.0_-_Improved_Suggested_Edits_Homescreen_and_Feature_Pausing_(released_25_November_2019)" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks">mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Suggested Edits 3.0 - Improved Suggested Edits Homescreen and Feature Pausing (released 25 November 2019)</a>. I had not heard about it before and don't know what triggered it. The only edits at <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy" title="Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy">Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy</a> with the "Reverted" tag are four edits in April and May 2022. I don't know whether the feature looks back so far when you have few edits since then. I suggest you just try again after December 1 if you want to use suggested edits. You are free to edit in other ways, e.g. finding tasks at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal#Help_out" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Wikipedia:Community portal#Help out</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241125215400-Qcne-20241125201500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241125215400-Qcne-20241125201500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241125215400-Qcne-20241125201500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="November_26" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_26-20241126103500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-November_26-20241126103500"></span>November 26<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_26-20241126103500"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: November 26"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_York_City" data-mw-thread-id="h-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y-November_26-20241126103500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y-November_26-20241126103500"></span>Asking for views about validity of an List of public elementary schools in New York City<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y-November_26-20241126103500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Asking for views about validity of an List of public elementary schools in New York City"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241126164000-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1250141580">.mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#EDEAFF;color:inherit;padding:0 0.6em;border:1px solid #8779DD}.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#c3c3c3;color:inherit;text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media(min-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result{width:30%}}</style><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1235681985">.mw-parser-output .side-box{margin:4px 0;box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #aaa;font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);display:flow-root}.mw-parser-output .side-box-abovebelow,.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{padding:0.25em 0.9em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-image{padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-imageright{padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .side-box-flex{display:flex;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{flex:1;min-width:0}}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .side-box{width:238px}.mw-parser-output .side-box-right{clear:right;float:right;margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-left{margin-right:1em}}</style><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">One venue suffices. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Pigsonthewing-20241126164000-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241126164000-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20241126164000-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TarantaBabu-20241126103500-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <p>I was unsure where to ask this question, so I would like to post a redirection from here to my question. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Validity_of_an_Wikipedia:Notability_§_Stand-alone_lists_article" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse#Validity_of_an_Wikipedia:Notability_§_Stand-alone_lists_article</a> </p><p>It is a question of the validity of an article in English. <a href="/wiki/User:TarantaBabu" title="User:TarantaBabu">TarantaBabu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TarantaBabu" title="User talk:TarantaBabu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TarantaBabu-20241126103500-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TarantaBabu-20241126103500-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TarantaBabu-20241126103500-Asking_for_views_about_validity_of_an_List_of_public_elementary_schools_in_New_Y"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CanonNi-20241126104200-TarantaBabu-20241126103500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TarantaBabu" title="User:TarantaBabu">TarantaBabu</a> no need to crosspost. Both the Teahouse and Help desk are for asking questions related to editing Wikipedia. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace"><b>'''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]'''</b></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-CanonNi-20241126104200-TarantaBabu-20241126103500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CanonNi-20241126104200-TarantaBabu-20241126103500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CanonNi-20241126104200-TarantaBabu-20241126103500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mobile_app_logout_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mobile_app_logout_issue-November_26-20241126160500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mobile_app_logout_issue-November_26-20241126160500"></span>Mobile app logout issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mobile_app_logout_issue-November_26-20241126160500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Mobile app logout issue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3family6-20241126160500-Mobile_app_logout_issue"></span>I'm using am Android phone, using dark mode for the Wikipedia app. On the mobile app, usually when I load talk pages, they render as a white mode web page, and I'll be logged out. Sometimes I can work around it, but both the work around and the error aren't consistent.--<a href="/wiki/User:3family6" title="User:3family6"><b style="color:navy">3family6</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3family6" title="User talk:3family6"><u style="color:black">Talk to me</u></a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/3family6" title="Special:Contributions/3family6"><small style="color:purple">See what I have done</small></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-3family6-20241126160500-Mobile_app_logout_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3family6-20241126160500-Mobile_app_logout_issue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3family6-20241126160500-Mobile_app_logout_issue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3family6-20241126165000-3family6-20241126160500"></span>I think the error occurs if I directly open the talk page link - if I navigate there from the article/Wikipedia space via the drop down, then it works fine and I'm not logged out.--<a href="/wiki/User:3family6" title="User:3family6"><b style="color:navy">3family6</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3family6" title="User talk:3family6"><u style="color:black">Talk to me</u></a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/3family6" title="Special:Contributions/3family6"><small style="color:purple">See what I have done</small></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-3family6-20241126165000-3family6-20241126160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3family6-20241126165000-3family6-20241126160500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3family6-20241126165000-3family6-20241126160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601AC47-20241126165400-3family6-20241126165000"></span>I'd also check out <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Android_FAQ" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ">this Android app FAQ</a> to see if there's a way around it (to my knowledge, you'll have to try going through here via your browser). <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601AC47" title="User talk:2601AC47">talk</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601AC47" title="Special:Contributions/2601AC47">contribs</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/2601AC47" title="Special:UserRights/2601AC47">my rights</a>) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2601AC47-20241126165400-3family6-20241126165000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601AC47-20241126165400-3family6-20241126165000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601AC47-20241126165400-3family6-20241126165000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127095300-3family6-20241126160500"></span>For what it's worth, this sometimes happens to me, as well. But I'm using the website on iOS Safari, not the Android app. And I've never had any issues with logging back in. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheLegendofGanon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheLegendofGanon (page does not exist)">TheLegendofGanon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLegendofGanon" title="User talk:TheLegendofGanon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127095300-3family6-20241126160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127095300-3family6-20241126160500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127095300-3family6-20241126160500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Indigenous_identity_friad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indigenous_identity_friad-November_26-20241126170100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indigenous_identity_friad-November_26-20241126170100"></span>Indigenous identity friad<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indigenous_identity_friad-November_26-20241126170100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Indigenous identity friad"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-135.12.162.209-20241126170100-Indigenous_identity_friad"></span>Hello I have attempted to go through the proper channels in wiki. A profile is being inaccurately listed as indigenous for a person who has no indigenous ancestry. This type of misinformation is a form of colonial erasure and upholds racism. I have opened what I hope would be a dialogue about it, as an indigenous person myself this is a very important issue to me but instead of being heard with understanding the person in the chat and who is exclusively modifying this wiki page is arguing with me and gaslighting my valid concerns. Can somebody who is not bias please come be apart of this discussion and hear out why they change is necessary and should be protected. This is the dialogue. <a href="/wiki/Talk:Jani_Lauzon#Identity_Fraud" title="Talk:Jani Lauzon">Talk:Jani Lauzon#Identity Fraud</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/135.12.162.209" title="Special:Contributions/135.12.162.209">135.12.162.209</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:135.12.162.209" title="User talk:135.12.162.209">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-135.12.162.209-20241126170100-Indigenous_identity_friad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-135.12.162.209-20241126170100-Indigenous_identity_friad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-135.12.162.209-20241126170100-Indigenous_identity_friad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601AC47-20241126170600-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"></span>I see, and (forgive me if I misread this) it's a case of <a href="/wiki/Pretendian" title="Pretendian">pretending to be indigenous</a> when, apparently and accordingly, she's not. This is backed by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>, right? You may, if necessary, bring this to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">Biographies of living persons Noticeboard</a>. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601AC47" title="User talk:2601AC47">talk</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601AC47" title="Special:Contributions/2601AC47">contribs</a><big>·</big><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/2601AC47" title="Special:UserRights/2601AC47">my rights</a>) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2601AC47-20241126170600-135.12.162.209-20241126170100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601AC47-20241126170600-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601AC47-20241126170600-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AceSevenFive-20241126180900-2601AC47-20241126170600"></span>It should be noted that <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://thewalrus.ca/an-acclaimed-canadian-playwright-faces-questions-of-pretendianism/">[2]</a> doesn't provide evidence supporting the conclusion that Lauzon is not Indigenous. I did cite it in the article as evidence that her identity has been called into question, but since the evidence isn't shown in the report like it is for other reporting on "Pretendians", I think accepting it as fact enough to remove "Metis" from the lede would fall foul of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GRAPEVINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GRAPEVINE">WP:GRAPEVINE</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AceSevenFive" title="User:AceSevenFive">AceSevenFive</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AceSevenFive" title="User talk:AceSevenFive">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-AceSevenFive-20241126180900-2601AC47-20241126170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AceSevenFive-20241126180900-2601AC47-20241126170600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AceSevenFive-20241126180900-2601AC47-20241126170600"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127093200-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"></span>It seems to me that you claim to have actual, reliable evidence that she isn't indigenous. Yet you refuse to provide it, citing privacy issues. No one's going to force you to reveal it, but unless you do, you cannot reasonably expect us to just take your word for it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheLegendofGanon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheLegendofGanon (page does not exist)">TheLegendofGanon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLegendofGanon" title="User talk:TheLegendofGanon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127093200-135.12.162.209-20241126170100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127093200-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheLegendofGanon-20241127093200-135.12.162.209-20241126170100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Island_of_Montreal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Island_of_Montreal-November_26-20241126175500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Island_of_Montreal-November_26-20241126175500"></span>Island of Montreal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Island_of_Montreal-November_26-20241126175500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Island of Montreal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500-Island_of_Montreal"></span>Hello, </p><p>On the page <a href="/wiki/Island_of_Montreal" title="Island of Montreal">Island of Montreal</a>, the map in the infobox displays the place name to the right of the coordinates, overlapping with the data under the map. Would someone know how to put the place name above the coordinates, as there is plenty of space there? Thanks. </p><p>17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ActiveContributor2020&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ActiveContributor2020 (page does not exist)">ActiveContributor2020</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ActiveContributor2020" title="User talk:ActiveContributor2020">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500-Island_of_Montreal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500-Island_of_Montreal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500-Island_of_Montreal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20241126183400-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ActiveContributor2020&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ActiveContributor2020 (page does not exist)">ActiveContributor2020</a>:</span> I have added <code>pushpin_label_position = top</code> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nowrap" title="Template:Nowrap">nowrap</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Island_of_Montreal&diff=prev&oldid=1259723024">[3]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20241126183400-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20241126183400-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20241126183400-ActiveContributor2020-20241126175500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace-November_26-20241126182500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace-November_26-20241126182500"></span>Sandbox to Draft namespace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace-November_26-20241126182500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Sandbox to Draft namespace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josh_Haines-20241126182500-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace"></span>Hi, I have a draft about Dodge Woodall in my sandbox: <a href="/wiki/User:Josh_Haines/sandbox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Josh Haines/sandbox">Sandbox</a>. </p><p>Could someone help move it to the Draft namespace with the title `Draft:Dodge Woodall`? </p><p>I don’t meet the auto confirmed requirements yet (4 days old, 10 edits), and I need to publish this ASAP. </p><p>Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josh_Haines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josh Haines (page does not exist)">Josh Haines</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josh_Haines" title="User talk:Josh Haines">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Josh_Haines-20241126182500-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josh_Haines-20241126182500-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josh_Haines-20241126182500-Sandbox_to_Draft_namespace"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126182900-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josh_Haines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josh Haines (page does not exist)">Josh Haines</a> If you add the template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:User_sandbox" title="Template:User sandbox">User sandbox</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to the top of your sandbox, it will give you a link which will allow you to submit the draft directly for review. There is no need to move it. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126182900-Josh_Haines-20241126182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126182900-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241126182900-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241126185500-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josh_Haines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josh Haines (page does not exist)">Josh Haines</a> -- a few things on this topic. Before moving it over, please take some time to review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a> as this article still has some problems that should be addressed before you bring more attention to it, and it might subsequently be speedily deleted. The second is to take a moment to look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a> as it looks like (based on your username) you might have a financial relationship with Woodall. Creating such articles are not prohibited, but they can be problematic for people who do not understand the processes involved. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241126185500-Josh_Haines-20241126182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241126185500-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241126185500-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josh_Haines-20241126190500-Tiggerjay-20241126185500"></span>Hi, thank you for your feedback, could you please notify me as to how to cater to the things you've just told me?</dd> <dd>What would you recommend changing quickly to avoid deletion? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josh_Haines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josh Haines (page does not exist)">Josh Haines</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josh_Haines" title="User talk:Josh Haines">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Josh_Haines-20241126190500-Tiggerjay-20241126185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josh_Haines-20241126190500-Tiggerjay-20241126185500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josh_Haines-20241126190500-Tiggerjay-20241126185500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shantavira-20241126192400-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"></span>You might start by removing bold text, overly promotional language, and the rather spammy links. You also need to find better sources. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shantavira" title="User:Shantavira">Shantavira</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shantavira" title="User talk:Shantavira"><sup>feed me</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Shantavira-20241126192400-Josh_Haines-20241126190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shantavira-20241126192400-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shantavira-20241126192400-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241126222100-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"></span>What I would recommend is that you take a moment and click on those blue links that start with WP listed above. Read through those and apply as appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241126222100-Josh_Haines-20241126190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241126222100-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241126222100-Josh_Haines-20241126190500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hoary-20241126215700-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span>Why the need to publish this ASAP, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josh_Haines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josh Haines (page does not exist)">Josh Haines</a>? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Hoary" title="User:Hoary">Hoary</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hoary" title="User talk:Hoary">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Hoary-20241126215700-Josh_Haines-20241126182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hoary-20241126215700-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hoary-20241126215700-Josh_Haines-20241126182500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="November_27" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_27-20241127011900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-November_27-20241127011900"></span>November 27<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_27-20241127011900"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: November 27"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="adding_a_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-adding_a_page-November_27-20241127011900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-adding_a_page-November_27-20241127011900"></span>adding a page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-adding_a_page-November_27-20241127011900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: adding a page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cewal21-20241127011900-adding_a_page"></span>Hi, I just joined on as an editor. I am referenced on many pages on Wikipedia but don't have my own page to link those reference to. Instead, they are credited to someone who has the same name as me. I want to rectify this by adding myself and information on a brand new page. Any advice from folks on how best to accomplish this? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cewal21&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cewal21 (page does not exist)">Cewal21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cewal21" title="User talk:Cewal21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Cewal21-20241127011900-adding_a_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cewal21-20241127011900-adding_a_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cewal21-20241127011900-adding_a_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241127040500-Cewal21-20241127011900"></span>Welcome to Wikipedia. Based on your question, it sounds like you want to add a page about yourself? If that is correct, please check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOBIO">WP:AUTOBIO</a> for more information about accomplishing that. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241127040500-Cewal21-20241127011900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241127040500-Cewal21-20241127011900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241127040500-Cewal21-20241127011900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners" data-mw-thread-id="h-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners-November_27-20241127041100"><span id="noindex_tag_found_for_page.2C_despite_no_flags.2Fbanners"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners-November_27-20241127041100"></span>noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners<span data-mw-comment-end="h-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners-November_27-20241127041100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anitanour-20241127041100-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners"></span>Hello, I have recently published a page under the following link: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matatia_Foa%27i">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matatia_Foa%27i</a> and it was approved by Wikipedia and published onto the main namespace. The page appears in Wikipedia's internal search results and does not have any visible flags, banners, or issues that I can identify. However, when I checked the source code, I found a noindex tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,follow">), which prevents the page from being indexed by search engines like Google. If possible, i would really appreciate knowing why the noindex tag has been applied to this page and what steps I can take to have the tag removed so the page can be indexed. The page is based on reliable and independent sources and meets the notability guidelines to the best of my knowledge. Could someone help me determine why this is happening and how I could resolve it? Thank you kindly for your assistance! <a href="/wiki/User:Anitanour" title="User:Anitanour">Anitanour</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anitanour" title="User talk:Anitanour">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Anitanour-20241127041100-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anitanour-20241127041100-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anitanour-20241127041100-noindex_tag_found_for_page,_despite_no_flags/banners"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CanonNi-20241127041300-Anitanour-20241127041100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Anitanour" title="User:Anitanour">Anitanour</a> new articles are, by default, not indexed by search engines until a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">new page reviewer</a> has checked it or if 90 days have passed since its creation. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Other_issues" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Other issues</a> for more info. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace"><b>'''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]'''</b></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-CanonNi-20241127041300-Anitanour-20241127041100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CanonNi-20241127041300-Anitanour-20241127041100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CanonNi-20241127041300-Anitanour-20241127041100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anitanour-20241127041500-CanonNi-20241127041300"></span>Thank you so much! Does this mean that it is only a matter of time rather than something that i would have to fix or address? <a href="/wiki/User:Anitanour" title="User:Anitanour">Anitanour</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anitanour" title="User talk:Anitanour">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Anitanour-20241127041500-CanonNi-20241127041300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anitanour-20241127041500-CanonNi-20241127041300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anitanour-20241127041500-CanonNi-20241127041300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CanonNi-20241127041600-Anitanour-20241127041500"></span>There's not much you need to do - the article is currently in <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">the queue</a> and a reviewer will check it sometime soon. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace"><b>'''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]'''</b></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-CanonNi-20241127041600-Anitanour-20241127041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CanonNi-20241127041600-Anitanour-20241127041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CanonNi-20241127041600-Anitanour-20241127041500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Citation_for_an_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Citation_for_an_edit-November_27-20241127050000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Citation_for_an_edit-November_27-20241127050000"></span>Citation for an edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Citation_for_an_edit-November_27-20241127050000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Citation for an edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcmeowski-20241127050000-Citation_for_an_edit"></span>I would like to add the name of a distant relative to the Wiki page "Volga Germans", section entitled "Notable people of Volga German descent". This person already has a Wikipedia page, but his name is not on this list. I know only from family oral history that he belongs on this list, his grandfather and my great-grandfather were brothers who emigrated together from Saratov, Russia to Canada in 1907. I have seen their arrival record on the Ancestry website. Other than that, I do not have any official sources I can cite. Is this sufficient citation? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kcmeowski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kcmeowski (page does not exist)">kcmeowski</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kcmeowski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kcmeowski (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Kcmeowski-20241127050000-Citation_for_an_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcmeowski-20241127050000-Citation_for_an_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcmeowski-20241127050000-Citation_for_an_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241127050600-Kcmeowski-20241127050000"></span>It is helpful that the person you want to add already has an article on Wikipedia, however we still rely upon reliable sources to establish these sorts of inclusions. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Tiggerjay-20241127050600-Kcmeowski-20241127050000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241127050600-Kcmeowski-20241127050000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241127050600-Kcmeowski-20241127050000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cullen328-20241127075900-Tiggerjay-20241127050600"></span>In other words, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kcmeowski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kcmeowski (page does not exist)">Kcmeowski</a>, we need a reference to a reliable published source that verifies that your relative was a <a href="/wiki/Volga_German" class="mw-redirect" title="Volga German">Volga German</a>. Unpublished family oral history is simply not adequate. <a href="/wiki/User:Cullen328" title="User:Cullen328">Cullen328</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cullen328" title="User talk:Cullen328">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Cullen328-20241127075900-Tiggerjay-20241127050600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cullen328-20241127075900-Tiggerjay-20241127050600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cullen328-20241127075900-Tiggerjay-20241127050600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_information" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in-November_27-20241127063600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in-November_27-20241127063600"></span>Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in-November_27-20241127063600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in"></span>Please create a seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF" title="Special:Contributions/2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF">2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600-Seperate_website_for_senior_citizens_to_upskill_and_get_useful_and_productive_in"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hoary-20241127075100-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600"></span>If you're asking for a separate website, then English-language Wikipedia, which is where you are, isn't the place to ask. You might try <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia Forum">m:Wikimedia Forum</a>, but your request there would have to be a lot more cogent and persuasive than what you've written above. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Hoary" title="User:Hoary">Hoary</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hoary" title="User talk:Hoary">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Hoary-20241127075100-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hoary-20241127075100-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hoary-20241127075100-2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF-20241127063600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??" data-mw-thread-id="h-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??-November_27-20241127091800"><span id="why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page.3F.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??-November_27-20241127091800"></span>why my edits are not visible on the page??<span data-mw-comment-end="h-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??-November_27-20241127091800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: why my edits are not visible on the page??"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cletawindler-20241127091800-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??"></span>I recently visit the capcut wikipedia page and there I edited the external link and add the relavent link which was <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://capcetapk.com/slow-motion-walk-capcut-template/">https://capcetapk.com/slow-motion-walk-capcut-template/</a>. But the edit is not updated and showing the previous link. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cletawindler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cletawindler (page does not exist)">Cletawindler</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cletawindler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Cletawindler (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Cletawindler-20241127091800-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cletawindler-20241127091800-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cletawindler-20241127091800-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-331dot-20241127092100-Cletawindler-20241127091800"></span>Looking at the article edit history(click "View History" at the top) your edit was removed. The editor that did so felt that it was vandalism- I suggest you post on the article talk page to explain the reason for your edit. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-331dot-20241127092100-Cletawindler-20241127091800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-331dot-20241127092100-Cletawindler-20241127091800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-331dot-20241127092100-Cletawindler-20241127091800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:4FD0:E6D0:F597:27CD:35AC:86FF-20241127122100-why_my_edits_are_not_visible_on_the_page??"></span>Thank you! 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