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flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">6 novembre 2024 à 21:15</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">il y a 24 jours</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">2</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Afficher le menu d’action de sujet"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-edit-title-link" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=edit-title&topic_postId=yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&topic_format=wikitext"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-edit"><span>Modifier le titre</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=history"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-clock"><span>Historique</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Lien permanent</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-summarize-topic-link" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Résumer</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Cacher le sujet</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfn4nxop48m72jh7" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfn4nxop48m72jh7" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Liberliger" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Liberliger</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Liberliger" class="" title="Discussion utilisateur:Liberliger">discuter</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Liberliger" title="Contributions/Liberliger">contributions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Bonjour,</p> <p id="mwAw">Vous avez annulé ma modification de deux localisations au motif "que les protections existent toujours, quel que soit l'état des monuments qu'elles sont censées protéger". Sauf que j'ai supprimé ces localisations plus qu'approximatives, pas leur classement<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBA"> </span>: - Men-Gwen n'a plus jamais été revu depuis son classement en 1931 (la seule photo connue dudit menhir date de cette époque)<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBQ"> </span>: JM LARGE le dit explicitement dans sa synthèse sur Houat-Hoedic en 2020 et A-L HAMON dans son étude pour la DRAC de 1994-1995 sur les MH dit déjà que localement plus personne ne sait le localiser<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBg"> </span>: donc elles sortent d'où ces coordonnées GPS<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBw"> </span>? - Bar-Kreiz (ou Beg Creiz) comme son nom l'indique est situé sur l’îlot du même nom, lui-même situé au large d'Houat au sud-est, les coordonnées que vous voulez conserver correspondent à une localisation sur la côte à l'extrémité sud-ouest de l'île d'Houat, soit à vol d'oiseau au moins 4 kilomètres de distance...</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=reply&topic_postId=yfn4nxop48m72jh7#flow-post-yfn4nxop48m72jh7" title="Répondre" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Répondre</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730898677" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">6 novembre 2024 à 14:11</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">il y a 24 jours</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Afficher le menu d’action de publication"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&topic_showPostId=yfn4nxop48m72jh7#flow-post-yfn4nxop48m72jh7"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Lien permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfn4nxop48m72jh7&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Cacher</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfns9izs64my6vkv" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfns9izs64my6vkv" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Poulpy" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Poulpy</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Poulpy" class="" title="Discussion utilisateur:Poulpy">discuter</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Poulpy" title="Contributions/Poulpy">contributions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Oui, et ces coordonnées correspondent à la zone protégée par les classements au titre de monument historique, lesquelles n'ont rien à voir avec la présence réelle d'un monument... C'est parfaitement idiot, mais c'est également très administratif. Bref, les coordonnées sont nécessaires sur la liste des monuments historiques, et totalement sans intérêt sur la liste des mégalithes du Morbihan.</p> <p id="mwAw">(D'ailleurs, l'<a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="http://atlas.patrimoines.culture.fr/atlas/trunk/" class="external text" id="mwBA">atlas des patrimoines</a> permet de visualiser directement les zones concernées par ces protections<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBQ"> </span>: elles ont une réelle existence, et donc un impact sur le terrain.)</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=reply&topic_postId=yfn4nxop44o4ufiz#flow-post-yfn4nxop44o4ufiz" title="Répondre" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Répondre</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730924103" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">6 novembre 2024 à 21:15</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">il y a 24 jours</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Afficher le menu d’action de publication"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&topic_showPostId=yfns9izs64my6vkv#flow-post-yfns9izs64my6vkv"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Lien permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfns9izs64my6vkv&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Cacher</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sujet:Yfn4nxop44o4ufiz&action=reply&topic_postId=yfn4nxop44o4ufiz#flow-post-yfn4nxop44o4ufiz-form-content" id="flow-reply-yfn4nxop44o4ufiz" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="yfn4nxop44o4ufiz" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">Vous n’êtes pas connecté(e). 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