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title="Wikipedija:Provjerljivost">Provjerljivost</a></b></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedija:%C5%BDivotopisi_%C5%BEivih_osoba" title="Wikipedija:Životopisi živih osoba">Životopisi živih osoba</a></li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="text-align:center; border:1px solid #A9A9A9; padding:1em 1em 1em 0.5em; background-color:#F5F5F5;"><div style="text-align:center;"><b>Pismohrane</b>:</div> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="hr" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-thread-id="h--2013-04-08T20:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--2013-04-08T20:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--2013-04-08T20:58:00.000Z"></span></span><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zeljko-2013-04-08T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Koriste se oba izraza za taj jezik, i dalmatski i dalmatinski. Ne postoji neki slavenski dalmatinski jezik. Čak ne postoji ni dalmatinski dijalekt ili narječje hrvatskog jezika, nego tek skupina vrlo različitih dijalekata što se nalaze na teritoriju današnje Dalmacije i susjedstva. Usto ti dijalekti pripadaju različitim narječjima hrvatskog jezika (čakavskom i štokavskom). Romanskom jeziku na koji se odnosi ovaj članak, bolje odgovara ime "dalmatinski", a ime "dalmatski" više odgovara neromanskom, (polu)ilirskom jeziku kojim su govorili stari Dalmati. Jer kako bi se drugačije mogao zvati taj jezik? Osim toga, taj romanski jezik na istočnoj strani Jadrana nastao je tek nakon nestanka Dalmata i formiranja provincije Dalmacije. U toj su provinciji živjela i neka druga plemena osim Dalmata i svi su oni dobili ime Dalmatinci po provinciji u kojoj žive, a ne po starom plemenu Dalmata, kojeg se većina uskoro više nije ni sjećala. Zato je opravdano jezik kojim su govorili ti Dalmatinci zvati dalmatinskim. 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