夏立言、馬英九跟中共的胡說八道，對民主社會有巨大的誤導性

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McCaul）最近說，今（2023）年當他在台北訪問時，馬英九正在中國，「與中國方面討論誰將是你們偏好的國民黨總統候選人」，他認為影響台灣總統選舉是中國會嘗試先做的事。他警告說，「北京的『傀儡』（puppet）可能贏得台灣總統選舉。」這下子可把國民黨惹著了。除了國民黨中央與麥考爾辦公室聯繫外，「馬辦」也要麥考爾道歉，正在美國訪問的國民黨副主席夏立言更是高調反駁麥考爾的說法。夏立言說：「麥考爾在接受訪問的時候，提到馬總統去是為了跟中國大陸方面商量所謂的他們比較偏好的候選人，以及將來這個候選人會是所謂的傀儡候選人，我們覺得他這些用語、用字都非常的不恰當，而且完全悖於事實。」他說，馬英九去中國大陸訪問的目的他曾說的很清楚，一是去掃墓，二是帶一些年輕學生去瞭解「我們過去中華民國的歷史」。馬英九到大陸確實是祭祖掃墓了，而且他掃得十分動感情、痛哭流涕。他也真的是帶了些年輕學生看了看中山陵之類的地方。所以，自由世界不瞭解中共的人，會覺得夏立言說的都沒錯。但其實，正是這種看上去堂而皇之、而又和表面事實相符的說辭，非常具有誤導性。中共的政府不是我們在民主社會生活慣了的人所知道的政府。不是每一個人都可以進中國掃墓的。首先，在1949年取得政權之後，中共搗毀了數以千萬計的祖墳，不要說回去紀念死去的人了，活著的人如果出身不夠紅，就會被關押或殺掉。直到現在，只要稍微批評中共一兩句，人們就是有家不能歸；親人病危不能回去看望；親人去世不能回去追悼。例如民主人士王丹，他因為1989年春帶領學生在天安門廣場抗議政府腐敗，後來在6月4日政府開槍鎮壓學生運動後，被抓、住過監獄。出獄後被迫流亡海外。多年來不得返回中國。他母親病危，中國政府不允許他回家看望；他母親去世，中共拒絕他回家參加葬禮。這樣的案例數不勝數。最近以敢言著稱的清華大學退休教授郭於華，由中國深圳去香港，在關口被員警攔下，不讓她去香港。郭教授和員警理論，員警說不出理由，反而說：「不讓你出境總比不讓你入境好」。這是一個講理的政府嗎？所以，反觀馬英九先生，他明明是中共的敵人台灣的「領導人」（中共不承認他是總統），卻能成為中共的座上賓，難道是偶然的嗎？中共連自己的居民（中國的「公民」完全叫不上公民，因為他們沒有許多公民權利如言論自由）生死都不顧、拒絕自己居民回家探視、不讓他們出境，隨便抓捕，那中共為什麼對馬英九這麼好？毛澤東說：「世界上沒有無緣無故的愛」。中共可以把自己的紅二代一個個放進監獄，如薄熙來和任志強，而後者僅僅是因為對當局發了點牢騷就被判18年徒刑；中共更把孔子等先賢和祖墳鏟平燒掉。這樣一個政權，卻能夠給馬英九家族維護好祖墳，而且還因為馬英九要到來，趕緊將通向他家祖墳的道路翻修，難道這僅僅是向夏立言所說的，馬英九只不過是去祭祖嗎？每個國家都有禁止入境的名單，但在民主法制國家，這些是恐怖分子、暴力刑事犯、毒販等等直接危害人民生命的人。但是在中國，中共有一個長長的黑名單。在這個名單上的人都是僅僅因為思想和言論為中共不允許。他們大都是書生，都沒有殺人放火搶劫盜竊或者暴力危害社會的行為，這些人無非就是自由的發表了他們心裡想說的話。所以說，能進中國是有條件的，馬英九和夏立言們心裡很明白他們為什麼能夠進中國。如果馬英九就直接了當的說，我去中國是因為我能拍中共的馬屁，那我也佩服他——至少說了實話。但打著這樣名正言順、誰也不能批評的「祭祖」到中國去拍馬屁，不僅令人不齒，而且美化中共，誤導民主世界。再說說所謂帶一些年輕學生去瞭解「我們過去中華民國的歷史」。這就更是不知所云，中共在篡改歷史上是「前無古人、後無來者」的，這是共產主義專制的獨有特產。正如《1984》的作者歐威爾（George Orwell）所說，誰掌握現在掌握歷史，誰掌握歷史掌握未來。中共連自己的創始人和總書記都可以通通抹掉，那麼篡改中華民國歷史更是不在話下。這一百年來，它已經把中華民國在中國徹底的消滅掉了，就連馬英九這次去中國的時候問中國年輕人什麼是辛亥革命、誰是孫中山？這些年輕人整個一臉呆相，根本不知道馬英九在說什麼。如果真是想瞭解中華民國歷史，在台灣比在大陸能夠知道的不僅多得多，而且要客觀的多。去中共統治的中國瞭解歷史，是緣木求魚。所以，瞭解歷史不過是馬英九去中國拍馬屁的托詞。這些背景難道國民黨高官夏立言不瞭解嗎？我想更大的可能，是他故意混淆視聽，替中共塗脂抹粉，把中共統治下的中國描繪成一個和台灣或者其他民主社會沒有區別的社會：不就是去掃掃墓看看歷史嗎？其實，夏立言這類胡說八道，我也不是太在意：因為我們知道他在胡說八道，中共也知道他在胡說八道，他自己也知道他在胡說八道。但我之所以還要寫文章揭露他這些胡說八道，就是因為他這種混淆視聽的說法，對於很多生活在民主社會、不瞭解中共的人，是有巨大的誤導性的。就是因為他這種人，身在民主社會、享受著言論自由，又跑到獨裁社會去給獨裁者拍馬屁，然後又回到民主社會。替獨裁社會塗脂抹粉、混淆視聽。當然，我並不相信馬英九和夏立言真的喜歡中共這種獨裁體制，他們只是到那邊撈取好處。不要忘記，不是所有的人在獨裁體制下都是受壓迫的。獨裁體制裡面的官員，和他們所豢養的吹喇叭抬轎子的人都是人上人。而馬英九們既要享受民主社會的自由人權，又要到中共統治的獨裁社會裡做人上人，兩面通吃。這種人不僅不為人齒，而且是民主社會的禍害。順便多說幾句。國民黨們要在中美之間等距外交，聽起來非常明智，但細想起來是對台灣十分不利、貽害無窮。國民黨們夢想，既要當中共的朋友、又要當美國的朋友。但他們首先要問自己一句：誰是中共真正的朋友？如果你問我誰是美國的真正朋友？這問題很容易回答：英國、加拿大、澳大利亞、紐西蘭、大部分歐洲國家、日本、韓國，總而言之，所有的成熟民主國家，包括台灣，都是美國的朋友。那麼如果你問我誰是中共的真正的朋友，我還真答不上來。也許是北韓？也許是古巴？也許是俄國？我敢說，雖然這些國家在反美上跟在中國屁股後頭亂叫，但不過是互相利用。更具諷刺意義的是，不僅中國老百姓不認為這些國家是中國的朋友，就連中共高官們也都不認為這些國家是朋友。在這樣的情況下，台灣現在還能聊以自慰的就是美國是她的真正朋友，這是因為台灣是一個民主、反共的國家。如果真的像國民黨說的那樣，要在中美之間走鋼絲、要和中美保持等距，這就意味著把美國這個朋友丟了，中共又永遠不可能成為一個民主自由的台灣的朋友。而國民黨愣跟中共拉近乎，這不是坑台灣是幹什麼？延伸閱讀一場危險的「美中台」三角戀：美國的積極會置台灣於危險之地嗎？馬英九與國台辦互相唱和，經濟不振給了國共兩黨重振九二共識的基礎從馬英九祭祖之行看見台灣的窘境，在意識型態上民進黨可說敗得一蹋糊塗《路透社》：台灣內部報告指，中共將針對意見領袖發起魅力攻勢，藉此影響總統大選如果國民黨訪陸就是「朝共」，那當年陳菊、賴清德訪陸又該如何界定？【加入關鍵評論網會員】每天精彩好文直送你的信箱，每週獨享編輯精選、時事精選、藝文週報等特製電子報。還可留言與作者、記者、編輯討論文章內容。立刻點擊免費加入會員！責任編輯：羅元祺核稿編輯：朱家儀"}</script> 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<h3>吃裡爬外的國民黨</h3><p>美國眾議院外交委員會主席邁克・麥考爾（Mike McCaul）最近說，今（2023）年當他在台北訪問時，馬英九正在中國，「與中國方面討論誰將是你們偏好的國民黨總統候選人」，他認為影響台灣總統選舉是中國會嘗試先做的事。他警告說，「北京的『傀儡』（puppet）可能贏得台灣總統選舉。」</p><p>這下子可把國民黨惹著了。除了國民黨中央與麥考爾辦公室聯繫外，「馬辦」也要麥考爾道歉，正在美國訪問的國民黨副主席夏立言更是高調反駁麥考爾的說法。</p><div class="js-advertise ad-content " style="min-height:326px"> <div class="tmgad tmgad-type-flux tmgad-new"> <script 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</div><p>夏立言說：「麥考爾在接受訪問的時候，提到馬總統去是為了跟中國大陸方面商量所謂的他們比較偏好的候選人，以及將來這個候選人會是所謂的傀儡候選人，我們覺得他這些用語、用字都非常的不恰當，而且完全悖於事實。」</p><p>他說，馬英九去中國大陸訪問的目的他曾說的很清楚，一是去掃墓，二是帶一些年輕學生去瞭解「我們過去中華民國的歷史」。</p><p>馬英九到大陸確實是祭祖掃墓了，而且他掃得十分動感情、痛哭流涕。他也真的是帶了些年輕學生看了看中山陵之類的地方。所以，自由世界不瞭解中共的人，會覺得夏立言說的都沒錯。</p><p>但其實，正是這種看上去堂而皇之、而又和表面事實相符的說辭，非常具有誤導性。</p><div class="js-advertise ad-content " style="min-height:326px"> <div class="tmgad tmgad-type-general tmgad-new"> <script 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