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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ordering-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering"],"text":"Ordering","linkableTitle":"Ordering"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering"></span>The page was previously arranged by the date of publication. I've added in any spin-offs I was aware had been missed and the page seemed cluttered, so I've regrouped and rodered by Category. Full Length Comics, Miniseries, then One shots (they're conronological within that and I've dated them).--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Orias&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Orias (page does not exist)">Orias</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Orias","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Ordering"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals","c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1","h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"],"text":"Removals","linkableTitle":"Removals"}--><h2 id="Removals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z"></span>Removals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Removals"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals","c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1","h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?","timestamp":"2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removals-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals","c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1","h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"],"text":"Removals","linkableTitle":"Removals"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals"></span>I've removed The "Prez" comics from the list because the comic's article would suggest (<a href="/wiki/Prez_(DC_Comics)" class="mw-redirect" title="Prez (DC Comics)">Prez (DC Comics)</a>) that it is very definitely no spin off.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Orias&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Orias (page does not exist)">Orias</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Orias","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1"></span>I've removed the following as I personally wouldn't count a companion as a spinoff: "The Sandman Companion by Hy Bender (2000), a non-fiction work providing extra information about the series. Its first section discusses the ten Sandman collections sequentially; analysing their meaning, explaining some of Neil Gaiman's myriad of references, and sometimes providing information on the writing of the comics. The book also features a lengthy interview Neil Gaiman himself on the topic of the series."--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Orias&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Orias (page does not exist)">Orias</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Orias","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Removals-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Moving?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"><span id="Moving.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"></span>Moving?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moving?-Removals-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Moving?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A1437053-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z-Moving?"></span>Considering moving this page to The World of The Sandman or other, more inclusive title. The new page would focus on Sandman-related connections, including previous work (like PREZ and non-fiction work such as Bender's work. </p><p>What do you think? </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:A1437053" title="User:A1437053">A1437053</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-A1437053-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z-Moving?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A1437053-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z-Moving?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z","author":"A1437053","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-A1437053-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z-Moving?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A1437053-2007-02-12T08:34:00.000Z-Moving?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?"></span>I would argue that the article certainly deserves it's own page, as the sandman article would just become horrendously long, and there's no way you can really condense that much information without missing stuff out, as the main part of the article is pretty much a list of publications. Maybe this calls for a "Click for full article" jobby. </p><p>That said, change in title, etc, probably a good thing. The article kinda needs an overhaul. I suppose something about the "what is canonical and what isn't debate" would be useful. I wish I could remember the article where Gaiman effectively disowns every story that wasn't written by him or Mike Carey... Hmm. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:129.67.3.2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:129.67.3.2 (page does not exist)">129.67.3.2</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z","author":"129.67.3.2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.67.3.2-2007-02-14T09:22:00.000Z-Moving?"></span> </p> <div 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still need to look them up.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Orias&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Orias (page does not exist)">Orias</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs#c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Dates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Orias","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Dates","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orias-2006-02-19T18:41:00.000Z-Dates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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