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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Symbol_redirect_arrow_with_gradient.svg/45px-Symbol_redirect_arrow_with_gradient.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Symbol_redirect_arrow_with_gradient.svg/60px-Symbol_redirect_arrow_with_gradient.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="143" data-file-height="88"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This is the <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Talk page">talk page</a> of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect</a> that targets the page:<br/> • <a href="/wiki/Pulse_nightclub_shooting" title="Pulse nightclub shooting">Pulse nightclub shooting</a><br/>Because this page is not frequently <a href="/wiki/Help:Watchlist" title="Help:Watchlist">watched</a>, present and future discussions, <strong><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit requests</a></strong> and <strong><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested moves</a></strong> should take place at:<br/> • <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Pulse_nightclub_shooting" title="Talk:Pulse nightclub shooting">Talk:Pulse nightclub shooting</a></b></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Negative_reactions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Negative_reactions-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Negative_reactions-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"></span>Negative reactions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Negative_reactions-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Negative reactions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z-Negative_reactions"></span>There are a lot of very ugly reactions out there especially from extremist religious and right-wing people/media like <a href="/wiki/Yeni_Akit" title="Yeni Akit">Yeni Akit</a>, and from the perpetrator's father. I would like to have some input from LGBTQ people if, what and how this should be mentioned here? --<a href="/wiki/User:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User:Schmarrnintelligenz">S</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User talk:Schmarrnintelligenz">I</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z-Negative_reactions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z-Negative_reactions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z-Negative_reactions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"></span>Before you spend any time on this, I suggest you participate in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting">the AfD already underway for this article</a>. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"><a href="/wiki/User:General_Ization" title="User:General Ization"><span style="color:#006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span></a></span> <sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:General_Ization" title="User talk:General Ization"><span style="color:#000666;">Talk </span></a> </i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-13T22:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:14:00.000Z-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z"></span>Now that we've come to "no consensus" on the question of deletion, can I raise this question again? Isn't there room for some of the anti-LGBT pastors' comments? I'm not sure about the appropriate weight, but 2 sentences with 3 citations might suffice. <a href="/wiki/User:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bmclaughlin9">Bmclaughlin9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bmclaughlin9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:14:00.000Z-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:14:00.000Z-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:14:00.000Z-General_Ization-2016-06-13T23:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z"><span id="Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z"></span>Can we please broaden the scope here?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Can we please broaden the scope here?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knowledgekid87-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?"></span>This article is called <b>Reactions to</b> the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, as in it should be expanded to include prose like info from the sources that are out there. - <a href="/wiki/User:Knowledgekid87" title="User:Knowledgekid87">Knowledgekid87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knowledgekid87" title="User talk:Knowledgekid87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Knowledgekid87-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knowledgekid87-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knowledgekid87-2016-06-14T02:04:00.000Z-Can_we_please_broaden_the_scope_here?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Planned_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Planned_Deletion-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Planned_Deletion-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Planned Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Planned_Deletion-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Planned Deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z-Planned_Deletion"></span>It is entirely appropriate for a reaction page to include primarily quotes. This does not make it un-encyclopedic. On the contrary, a reaction page is a special kind of page that never existed in a traditional encyclopedia and is entirely appropriate for a post-internet era of widespread personal media applications and usage. As a scholar and futurist of internet culture, I encourage Wikipedia to loosen their stated standard with regards to reaction pages (and/or other pages in which many quotations may be warranted). </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:PaulBHartzog" title="User:PaulBHartzog">PaulBHartzog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaulBHartzog" title="User talk:PaulBHartzog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z-Planned_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z-Planned_Deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z-Planned_Deletion"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-17T12:23:00.000Z-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Link to discussion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting</a></li> <li>Related RfC: <a href="/wiki/Talk:2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#RfC:_Should_the_article_include_statements_from_government_officials,_politicians,_and_others_not_directly_involved?" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2016 Orlando nightclub shooting">Talk:2016 Orlando nightclub shooting#RfC: Should the article include statements from government officials, politicians, and others not directly involved?</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User:Schmarrnintelligenz">S</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User talk:Schmarrnintelligenz">I</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-17T12:23:00.000Z-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 17 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-17T12:23:00.000Z-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-17T12:23:00.000Z-PaulBHartzog-2016-06-14T16:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Criticism_of_Republicans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Criticism_of_Republicans-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Criticism_of_Republicans-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>Criticism of Republicans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Criticism_of_Republicans-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Criticism of Republicans"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z-Criticism_of_Republicans"></span>In a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting">deletion discussion</a> as to whether to keep or merge this article, I added that there was content needed wrt criticism of Republican reactions. A discussion ensued, and these are my subsequent comments from there (non-relevant part of the comment from there redacted): </p> <dl><dd>Republican politicians have been called out <strike>for</strike> on their hypocrisy both for their 'thoughts and prayers' to the victims, whose everyday lives the said legislators have continually been making difficult; and for the fact, that lawmakers from that party have blocked legislation that would have curtailed the sales of assault weapons (especially AR-15). This doesn't mean, as if the Republicans should not have expressed support for the victims; it's that there is a deficiency of forward-looking statements on their part about improving LGBT rights, or at the very least making gun laws stricter. Therefore, the criticism of Republicans is rightful, since their condolences are thought not to be heartfelt in the way they have reacted.</dd></dl> <p>-<span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px #409fff;"><a href="/wiki/User:Mardus" title="User:Mardus">Mardus</a> <small>/<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mardus" title="User talk:Mardus">talk</a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z-Criticism_of_Republicans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z-Criticism_of_Republicans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z-Criticism_of_Republicans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>Looks like a case of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAPBOX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAPBOX">WP:SOAPBOX</a> by unnecessarily promoting a democrat viewpoint - there is hardly consensus on criticising of republicans by the media at any rate, seeing how both sides are flinging mud at each other (before the corpses are even cold smh...)<a href="/wiki/User:BrxBrx" title="User:BrxBrx">BrxBrx</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BrxBrx" title="User talk:BrxBrx">talk</a>)<sup>(please reply with { {re|BrxBrx}})</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:42:00.000Z-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z"></span>I agree. Nothing but democrat political opportunism on the deaths and injuries of a hundred people. Adds nothing to the article other than entrenching certain political viewpoints by attacking another. Its tricky because this is the reactions page but, considering the discourse is not new at all, political reactions/talking points add little to helping readers understand the incident. - A Canadian Toker (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ACanadianToker" title="User talk:ACanadianToker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:42:00.000Z-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 16 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:42:00.000Z-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:42:00.000Z-BrxBrx-2016-06-15T04:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:19:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>Without chiming in on the original issue, I think that reaction-to-another-reaction is only suitable in summary form, if at all. Most likely, there are better pages for them... - <a href="/wiki/User:Penwhale" title="User:Penwhale">Penwhale</a> | <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Penwhale" title="User talk:Penwhale">dance in the air</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Penwhale" title="Special:Contributions/Penwhale">follow his steps</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:19:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 20 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:19:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:19:00.000Z-Mardus-2016-06-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Turkish_newspaper" data-mw-thread-id="h-Turkish_newspaper-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Turkish_newspaper-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"></span>Turkish newspaper<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Turkish_newspaper-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Turkish newspaper"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z-Turkish_newspaper"></span>Whatever the unsympathetic reaction in the Turkish newspaper <i>(Yeni Akit)</i> is, it isn't a 'popular reaction' and it isn't important enough to be so early in the article. there wasn't an obvious move so simply recorded here.<a href="/wiki/User:Pincrete" title="User:Pincrete">Pincrete</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pincrete" title="User talk:Pincrete">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z-Turkish_newspaper" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z-Turkish_newspaper"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z-Turkish_newspaper"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:27:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"></span>The placement of that fact is kind of charged. On one hand, you can say it's a leading Turkish newspaper, hence a popular/press reaction that belongs in the non-governmental section. On the other hand, the Turkish government has done so much to destroy freedom of the press that such a statement is practically an official statement, in which case it would belong under the Turkey entry in government reactions. A secondary source carefully explaining this case would do much to move it to the other place in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Wnt" title="User:Wnt">Wnt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wnt" title="User talk:Wnt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:27:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:27:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:27:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-15T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Flags_at_half_staff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flags_at_half_staff-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flags_at_half_staff-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"></span>Flags at half staff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flags_at_half_staff-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Flags at half staff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z-Flags_at_half_staff"></span>Under political reactions, it says that Alaska governor Bill Walker ordered them at half staff. I know in my state of Wisconsin Governor Walker did the same. I checked Wisconsin's website and it says that Obama ordered all flags to be lowered to half staff. I'm not sure but I believe this should be changed in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Ghoul_flesh" title="User:Ghoul flesh"><span style="color:red"><i><b>Ghoul flesh</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ghoul_flesh" title="User talk:Ghoul flesh">(<span style="color:#00ff00">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z-Flags_at_half_staff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z-Flags_at_half_staff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z-Flags_at_half_staff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"></span>I removed the Alaska text, leaving the nationwide text.<a href="/wiki/User:Pincrete" title="User:Pincrete">Pincrete</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pincrete" title="User talk:Pincrete">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 16 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z-Ghoul_flesh-2016-06-16T01:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z"></span>I was under the impression that POTUS ordered flags at half staff nationally. That should be enough to draw the inference that flags were lowered across the US, regardless of the PR of certain state governments. - A Canadian Toker (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ACanadianToker" title="User talk:ACanadianToker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 16 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-16T12:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"></span>Except that there are officials directly going against the order of flags at half-staff: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/alabama-county-refuse-lower-flag-orlando/index.html">[1]</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Penwhale" title="User:Penwhale">Penwhale</a> | <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Penwhale" title="User talk:Penwhale">dance in the air</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Penwhale" title="Special:Contributions/Penwhale">follow his steps</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 20 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z"></span>At least that official is consistent, he refused to lower the flag for 'Paris' and for other US attacks.<a href="/wiki/User:Pincrete" title="User:Pincrete">Pincrete</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pincrete" title="User talk:Pincrete">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z-Penwhale-2016-06-20T02:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-21T20:17:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z"></span>And the citing of applicable regulations while going against orders from high-up solidifies his position. - <a href="/wiki/User:Penwhale" title="User:Penwhale">Penwhale</a> | <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Penwhale" title="User talk:Penwhale">dance in the air</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Penwhale" title="Special:Contributions/Penwhale">follow his steps</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Penwhale-2016-06-21T20:17:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 21 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penwhale-2016-06-21T20:17:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penwhale-2016-06-21T20:17:00.000Z-Pincrete-2016-06-20T22:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:25:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"></span>I think that so long as the order was generally followed, it would be intolerable to have 50 state entries or innumerable local ones about each observance, so removing Alaska was the right call. I <i>would</i> cite the Alabama case if the official were responding specifically to the attacks by not lowering it, but since he makes it clear that this is a general policy of his that is not really a reaction at all, or even the omission of a reaction, but just a difference in interpretation of policy. It would be a statement about him, but not about the shootings. <a href="/wiki/User:Wnt" title="User:Wnt">Wnt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wnt" title="User talk:Wnt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:25:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:25:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:25:00.000Z-ACanadianToker-2016-06-16T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"><span id="Please_can_we_ditch_the_.22too_many_quotes.22_tag.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Please can we ditch the "too many quotes" tag?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Please can we ditch the "too many quotes" tag?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:PaulBHartzog" title="User:PaulBHartzog">PaulBHartzog</a>:</span> above seems OK with the quotations we have, as am I. I tried taking the tag off but got reverted by <a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">User:John</a>. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&diff=726054790&oldid=726034695">[2]</a> I don't think anyone is seriously working on taking quotes out, nor suggesting which - my feeling is that in a contentious yet solemn topic that we want to keep some decorum about, by far the best thing is just to quote what people said so we don't have endless POV battles over how to paraphrase it to give advantage for one side or the other. <a href="/wiki/User:Wnt" title="User:Wnt">Wnt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wnt" title="User talk:Wnt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z-Please_can_we_ditch_the_"too_many_quotes"_tag?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span>That's what Wikiquote does. Here at Wikipedia, we <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUMMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUMMARY">summarise</a> the best sources. An article cannot consist of a selection of quotes. There are copyright concerns as well. It can't stay like this, I'm afraid. --<a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z"></span>Nonsense - copyright might kick in if we had a page worth of quotes from one book, but it most definitely is not a factor when we have no more than one or two sentences per source! And while Wikiquote is interested in curating quotes as quotes, there's no reason why they can't be used to document speakers' opinions as part of encyclopedic coverage. <a href="/wiki/User:Wnt" title="User:Wnt">Wnt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wnt" title="User talk:Wnt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T16:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z"></span>Well, it's interesting to hear your opinion. I very strongly disagree with you. I'm not aware of any Good or Featured articles that consist of 90% copyrighted quotes, are you? --<a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T19:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T21:22:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Well, since this article is nowhere <i>near</i> 90% quotes, that isn't really relevant. Also, I see nothing in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Good article criteria">WP:Good article criteria</a> about 'too many quotations', so I don't see what Good Article status has to do with it. And again, copyright is meaningless in reference to single lines of text. We can rest pretty well <i>assured</i> of this when we consider that every one of those quotes was obtained from newspapers all over the world, subject to all sorts of copyright policies, not one of which has to worry about quoting a line of a speaker's text even though they are for-profit businesses. <a href="/wiki/User:Wnt" title="User:Wnt">Wnt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wnt" title="User talk:Wnt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Wnt-2016-06-22T21:22:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T21:22:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wnt-2016-06-22T21:22:00.000Z-John-2016-06-22T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Strong support</b>: The <a href="/wiki/Template:Quotefarm" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Quotefarm">template:quotefarm</a> had been added by John on 13 June 2016<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&diff=725144463&oldid=725143620">[3]</a>, meanwhile 9 days and >200 edits have passed so the current status has a broad consensus. If you see the need of changing more, do it, in case of reverts open a new talk section on the specific changes you want and wait for consensus before reverting. But keeping the badge doesn't help anything anymore. --<a href="/wiki/User:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User:Schmarrnintelligenz">S</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schmarrnintelligenz" title="User talk:Schmarrnintelligenz">I</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 22 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z-Wnt-2016-06-22T16:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-24T22:17:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Glad that the tag is gone. Quotes are the essence of an entry like this. The prose just needs tightening throughout. It still reads like a rushed compilation. I'll give that a shot. <a href="/wiki/User:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bmclaughlin9">Bmclaughlin9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bmclaughlin9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-24T22:17:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 24 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-24T22:17:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-24T22:17:00.000Z-Schmarrnintelligenz-2016-06-22T21:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""constitutional_reform"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"constitutional_reform"-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z"><span id=".22constitutional_reform.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"constitutional_reform"-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z"></span>"constitutional reform"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"constitutional_reform"-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: "constitutional reform""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z-"constitutional_reform""></span>I'm surprised that we've had this (clunky) language or something close to it in the lede for some time; </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>...the USA's internal discussion for constitutional reform in relation to the gun control related rights...</p></blockquote> <p>I read "constitutional reform" as an attempt to amend the US Constitution, which isn't happening. And linking the phrase "constitutional <i>reform</i>" (my emphasis) to the Second Amendment doesn't ring true. How about this: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>...the domestic US debate about <a href="/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms_in_the_United_States" title="Right to keep and bear arms in the United States">constitutional rights</a> and <a href="/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States" title="Gun law in the United States">gun control</a>...</p></blockquote> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bmclaughlin9">Bmclaughlin9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bmclaughlin9" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bmclaughlin9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z-"constitutional_reform"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z-"constitutional_reform""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bmclaughlin9-2016-06-23T18:35:00.000Z-"constitutional_reform""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z"><span id="Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx.27s_comment"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z"></span>Requesting edit of Richard Marx's comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Requesting edit of Richard Marx's comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graylandertagger-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"></span>The F bomb used in Richard Marx's comment(he said "We should demand more of our elected officials rather than their fucking thoughts and prayers") is rather tasteless and out of place with Wikipedia standards. If the comment is to remain, I suggest editing it so that it sounds more clean. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Graylandertagger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Graylandertagger (page does not exist)">Graylandertagger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graylandertagger#top" title="User talk:Graylandertagger">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Graylandertagger" title="Special:Contributions/Graylandertagger">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Graylandertagger-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 24 September 2016 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graylandertagger-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graylandertagger-2016-09-24T21:58:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toddst1-2016-09-24T22:00:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/18px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/27px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/36px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Not done</b></span> We can't change his quote and Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED">WP:NOTCENSORED</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Toddst1" title="User:Toddst1">Toddst1</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1" title="User talk:Toddst1">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting#c-Toddst1-2016-09-24T22:00:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 24 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toddst1-2016-09-24T22:00:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toddst1-2016-09-24T22:00:00.000Z-Requesting_edit_of_Richard_Marx's_comment"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-11-03T09:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-11-03T09:34:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-11-03T09:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-11-03T09:34:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified one external link on <a href="/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting" class="mw-redirect" title="Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting">Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting</a>. 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id="h-Roger_Jiménez-2018-02-16T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Roger Jiménez<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Roger_Jiménez-2018-02-16T14:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reactions_to_the_Orlando_nightclub_shooting&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Roger Jiménez"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-2018-02-16T14:58:00.000Z-Roger_Jiménez"></span>Edds might want to chip inn here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Verity_Baptist_Church">[4]</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" 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