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Register your vote <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/September_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/September 2024">here</a></b> by 23:59 UTC on 29 September! <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183500-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183500-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183500-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="attempt_to_overturn_the_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-attempt_to_overturn_the_election-20241003130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-attempt_to_overturn_the_election-20241003130700"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Attempt_to_overturn_the_election&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Attempt to overturn the election (page does not exist)">attempt to overturn the election</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-attempt_to_overturn_the_election-20241003130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: attempt to overturn the election"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Furtivead-20241003130700-attempt_to_overturn_the_election"></span>Why are you deleting syntax and grammar edits? it wasn’t better before. Do you work for the <a href="/wiki/DOJ" class="mw-disambig" title="DOJ">DOJ</a> <a href="/wiki/Jack_Smith" class="mw-disambig" title="Jack Smith">Jack Smith</a>? </p><p>“Baselessly” is an opinion. This is not a one-sided issue. You like <a href="/wiki/Communism" title="Communism">communism</a>? </p><p>To be fair and neutral, please revert it. <a href="/wiki/User:Furtivead" title="User:Furtivead">Furtivead</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Furtivead" title="User talk:Furtivead">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Furtivead-20241003130700-attempt_to_overturn_the_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Furtivead-20241003130700-attempt_to_overturn_the_election"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Furtivead-20241003130700-attempt_to_overturn_the_election"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Agf" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Agf"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700"></span>wp:agf</a> and the place to ger <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">wp:consensus</a> is the article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700-1"></span>You may also need to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Npa" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Npa">wp:npa</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241003130900-Furtivead-20241003130700-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000-Slatersteven-20241003130900"></span>I've already blocked them. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000-Slatersteven-20241003130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000-Slatersteven-20241003130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000-Slatersteven-20241003130900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241003131100-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000"></span>That was quick, I did not even get to warn them. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241003131100-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241003131100-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241003131100-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241003131000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy-20241004185600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy-20241004185600"></span>The recent revertion of an entire three days work of edits on Mary Baker Eddy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy-20241004185600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: The recent revertion of an entire three days work of edits on Mary Baker Eddy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy"></span>Hello, I have already stated my case - in length - on the MBE talk page. You can read for yourself. I found it perfectly legitimate to remove the "sources may not be reliable" note from May 2023, as it has improved since then, has both sided biographers (for example Peel is pro-mary baker eddy, and Milmine is opposed to Mary Baker Eddy) - and they are all known biographers spanning over a century. I even had the users that were conversing with me stating that they feel I could remove it as well. I have worked really hard on this page, and for it to suddenly be reverted for a reason that I cannot see and that I have proven with my work, I am at a loss. Can you please let me know what the problem is? I really do want to understand so it can be fixed the right way. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregorcollins" title="User:Gregorcollins">Greg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregorcollins" title="User talk:Gregorcollins">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins" title="Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600-The_recent_revertion_of_an_entire_three_days_work_of_edits_on_Mary_Baker_Eddy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241004185700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"></span>You need to make your case (and get consensus) on her page, not here. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241004185700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241004185700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241004185700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"></span> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-Slatersteven-20241004185700"></span>PLEASE SEE HER TALK PAGE</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gregorcollins" title="User:Gregorcollins">Greg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregorcollins" title="User talk:Gregorcollins">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins" title="Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-Slatersteven-20241004185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-Slatersteven-20241004185700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-Slatersteven-20241004185700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241004190000-Slatersteven-20241004185700"></span>No? That isn't how Wikipedia works. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEBOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEBOLD">WP:BEBOLD</a> is an important guideline: it is not necessary to seek consensus on a talkpage before improving an article. You should not just revert someone's BOLD edits without a <i>substantive</i> challenge to them. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Elli-20241004190000-Slatersteven-20241004185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241004190000-Slatersteven-20241004185700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241004190000-Slatersteven-20241004185700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200-Elli-20241004190000"></span>i appreciate this - man, i feel completely and unjustifiably bullied on this - I mean why am I spending so many hours trying improve it if someone can come along and just delete the whole thing with no explanation or reading up to date info on the talk page? <a href="/wiki/User:Gregorcollins" title="User:Gregorcollins">Greg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregorcollins" title="User talk:Gregorcollins">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins" title="Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200-Elli-20241004190000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200-Elli-20241004190000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200-Elli-20241004190000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241004190500-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gregorcollins" title="User:Gregorcollins">Gregorcollins</a>:</span> Yeah, getting reverted without a good explanation can be very frustrating. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Elli-20241004190500-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241004190500-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241004190500-User:Gregorcollins-20241004190200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"></span>please read the user comments on the bottom of MBE page to get up to date with what I'm referring to. thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Gregorcollins" title="User:Gregorcollins">Greg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregorcollins" title="User talk:Gregorcollins">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins" title="Special:Contributions/User:Gregorcollins">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241004205700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800"></span>MBE was what confused me as we have no page called that. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241004205700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241004205700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241004205700-User:Gregorcollins-20241004185800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus"-20241004192100"><span id="Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_.22lack_of_consensus.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus"-20241004192100"></span>Please stop reverting edits simply for a "lack of consensus"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus"-20241004192100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Please stop reverting edits simply for a "lack of consensus""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241004192100-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus""></span>Your way of going about this is in complete contradiction of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a> and is <i>incredibly</i> discouraging to fellow editors. If you have an actual disagreement with their edits, indicate that in your edit summary. If it's a massive overhaul of an article that has been debated endlessly, that's one thing, but for 99.9% of articles, there is no necessity to seek consensus before making significant edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Elli-20241004192100-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241004192100-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241004192100-Please_stop_reverting_edits_simply_for_a_"lack_of_consensus""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200-Elli-20241004192100"></span>The sources are no good. They were all written by Christian Scientists apart from the Britannica source. Its violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fringe">WP:Fringe</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Psychologist_Guy" title="User:Psychologist Guy">Psychologist Guy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Psychologist_Guy" title="User talk:Psychologist Guy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200-Elli-20241004192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200-Elli-20241004192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200-Elli-20241004192100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241004204000-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200"></span>Then Slatersteven should say that! That's a perfectly good reason to revert. "lack of consensus" is not. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Elli-20241004204000-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241004204000-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241004204000-Psychologist_Guy-20241004203200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241004205600-Elli-20241004204000"></span>I will admit to frustration as I had in fact tried, and kept getting edit conflicts due to the number of edits they were making. In some cases each edit worse than then last. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241004205600-Elli-20241004204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241004205600-Elli-20241004204000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241004205600-Elli-20241004204000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Atlantis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Atlantis-20241004211100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Atlantis-20241004211100"></span>Atlantis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Atlantis-20241004211100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Atlantis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bender235-20241004211100-Atlantis"></span>I just took a look at the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Atlantis" title="Talk:Atlantis">Talk:Atlantis</a> page, and just wanted to thank you for the time and effort you put into answering all the crank claims by IPs. I remember doing this about a decade ago, and I don't miss it. Hats off to you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bender235" title="User:Bender235">bender235</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bender235" title="User talk:Bender235">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Bender235-20241004211100-Atlantis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bender235-20241004211100-Atlantis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bender235-20241004211100-Atlantis"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Harassment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Harassment-20241010181100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Harassment-20241010181100"></span>Harassment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Harassment-20241010181100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Harassment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241010181100-Harassment"></span>a wikipedia used named Remsense is harrasing me. they are deleting my comments on the talk page even though I provide referenses. I added something to the mao page about how mao was influenced by abook called the water margin in his peasant struggle. Remsense removed my comment. Sorry to bother you. </p> <dl><dd>I am not an admin. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241010181100-Harassment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241010181100-Harassment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241010181100-Harassment"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peter_Pratt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peter_Pratt-20241013124500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peter_Pratt-20241013124500"></span>Peter Pratt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peter_Pratt-20241013124500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Peter Pratt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-197.87.143.164-20241013124500-Peter_Pratt"></span>Irony. The link is in the article, not the lead. Number 16 <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.87.143.164" title="Special:Contributions/197.87.143.164">197.87.143.164</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:197.87.143.164" title="User talk:197.87.143.164">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-197.87.143.164-20241013124500-Peter_Pratt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-197.87.143.164-20241013124500-Peter_Pratt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-197.87.143.164-20241013124500-Peter_Pratt"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241013124700-197.87.143.164-20241013124500"></span>Not for your initial version, this is why you discuss it. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241013124700-197.87.143.164-20241013124500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241013124700-197.87.143.164-20241013124500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241013124700-197.87.143.164-20241013124500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion-20241023211400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion-20241023211400"></span>Suggestion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion-20241023211400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Suggestion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cullen328-20241023211400-Suggestion"></span>I am seeing a lot of typographical errors in your recent interactions with other editors. Some affect your intended meaning and some affect wikilinks. Please proofread more carefully and correct your errors. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Cullen328" title="User:Cullen328">Cullen328</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cullen328" title="User talk:Cullen328">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Cullen328-20241023211400-Suggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cullen328-20241023211400-Suggestion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cullen328-20241023211400-Suggestion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20241028000700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20241028000700"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20241028000700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rc2barrington-20241028000700-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peacedove.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/60px-Peacedove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/90px-Peacedove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/120px-Peacedove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="714" data-file-height="729"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding North Korean involvement in the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="G.O.A.T" data-mw-thread-id="h-G.O.A.T-20241113154900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-G.O.A.T-20241113154900"></span>G.O.A.T<span data-mw-comment-end="h-G.O.A.T-20241113154900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: G.O.A.T"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113154900-G.O.A.T"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Trophy.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/100px-Trophy.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="149" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/150px-Trophy.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/200px-Trophy.png 2x" data-file-width="280" data-file-height="418"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>Award for being on wikipedia</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">HI <a href="/wiki/User:TheSmartWikiOne" title="User:TheSmartWikiOne">TheSmartWikiOne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheSmartWikiOne" title="User talk:TheSmartWikiOne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113154900-G.O.A.T" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113154900-G.O.A.T"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113154900-G.O.A.T"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241113170700"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241113170700"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241113170700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113170700-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Writers_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Writer's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">thank you for your help <a href="/wiki/User:TheSmartWikiOne" title="User:TheSmartWikiOne">TheSmartWikiOne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheSmartWikiOne" title="User talk:TheSmartWikiOne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113170700-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113170700-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheSmartWikiOne-20241113170700-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Trump_and_NOTFORUM" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trump_and_NOTFORUM-20241114023600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trump_and_NOTFORUM-20241114023600"></span>Trump and NOTFORUM<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trump_and_NOTFORUM-20241114023600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Trump and NOTFORUM"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandruss-20241114023600-Trump_and_NOTFORUM"></span>So here's what I've started to post on some user talk pages per <a href="/wiki/Talk:Donald_Trump#FORUM" title="Talk:Donald Trump">Talk:Donald Trump#FORUM</a>. By responding to these people with anything but a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">WP:NOTFORUM</a> link, you're being part of the problem instead of the solution. I totally get that forum talk is tempting. </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Hello! <a href="/wiki/Talk:Donald_Trump" title="Talk:Donald Trump">Talk:Donald Trump</a> is for discussing improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> article, not for more general forum-like discussions <i>about</i> Trump, politics, and such. I hope you will keep this in mind in any future participation there. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">WP:NOTFORUM</a> for the relevant Wikipedia policy.</p></blockquote><p> ―<a href="/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Mandruss-20241114023600-Trump_and_NOTFORUM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandruss-20241114023600-Trump_and_NOTFORUM"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandruss-20241114023600-Trump_and_NOTFORUM"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala-20241116002300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala-20241116002300"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> sections in the article <a href="/wiki/Shambhala" title="Shambhala">Shambhala</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala-20241116002300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: WP:OR sections in the article Shambhala"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenoV84-20241116002300-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala"></span>Hello Slatersteven, sorry for reverting your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOODFAITH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOODFAITH">good-faith edit</a>. I deleted those sections in the article <a href="/wiki/Shambhala" title="Shambhala">Shambhala</a> because they were <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BURDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BURDEN">completely unreferenced</a> and tagged as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>. I will try to expand the article with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">sourced content based on reliable references</a>; it will take time. <a href="/wiki/User:GenoV84" title="User:GenoV84">GenoV84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenoV84" title="User talk:GenoV84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-GenoV84-20241116002300-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenoV84-20241116002300-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenoV84-20241116002300-WP:OR_sections_in_the_article_Shambhala"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241116104800-GenoV84-20241116002300"></span>THe place for this discussion is the article talkpage. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241116104800-GenoV84-20241116002300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241116104800-GenoV84-20241116002300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241116104800-GenoV84-20241116002300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nominations_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_and_military_historian_of_the_year" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nominations_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_a-20241116042100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nominations_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_a-20241116042100"></span>Nominations now open for the WikiProject Military history newcomer of the year and military historian of the year<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nominations_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_a-20241116042100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Nominations now open for the WikiProject Military history newcomer of the year and military historian of the year"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241116042100-Nominations_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_a"></span>Nominations now open for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military History">WikiProject Military History</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards/MHNOTY" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/MHNOTY">newcomer of the year</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards/MHOTY" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/MHOTY">military historian of the year</a> awards for 2024! 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001300-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Trump_rv" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trump_rv-20241123140400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trump_rv-20241123140400"></span>Trump rv<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trump_rv-20241123140400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Trump rv"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandruss-20241123140400-Trump_rv"></span>Did you actually look at my edit? I fixed an EGG. The rest of my comment was about possible overlinking, which I didn't change. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Mandruss-20241123140400-Trump_rv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandruss-20241123140400-Trump_rv"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandruss-20241123140400-Trump_rv"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241123140600-Mandruss-20241123140400"></span>You seemed to remove a valid link explaining the powers of the president. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241123140600-Mandruss-20241123140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241123140600-Mandruss-20241123140400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241123140600-Mandruss-20241123140400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandruss-20241123140700-Slatersteven-20241123140600"></span>I removed no link. I changed one linktext from "vetoed" to "He vetoed". ―<a href="/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Mandruss-20241123140700-Slatersteven-20241123140600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandruss-20241123140700-Slatersteven-20241123140600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandruss-20241123140700-Slatersteven-20241123140600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241123141100-Mandruss-20241123140700"></span>I misunderstood your edit then. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241123141100-Mandruss-20241123140700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241123141100-Mandruss-20241123140700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241123141100-Mandruss-20241123140700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024-20241127121300"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_223.2C_November_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024-20241127121300"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue 223, November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024-20241127121300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue 223, November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-20241127121300-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2024/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2024/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2024/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2024/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/November_2024/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/November 2024/Book reviews">Hawkeye7 looks at battles of Operation Veritable in 1945</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Nick-D-20241127121300-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20241127121300-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20241127121300-The_Bugle:_Issue_223,_November_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="British_Army" data-mw-thread-id="h-British_Army-20241127144700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-British_Army-20241127144700"></span>British Army<span data-mw-comment-end="h-British_Army-20241127144700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: British Army"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700-British_Army"></span>Hello, you see the problem is, I don´t know which user to adress, therefore I decided to post a general question. But since you asked me directly here are some articles <a href="/wiki/British_soldiers_in_the_eighteenth_century" title="British soldiers in the eighteenth century">British soldiers in the eighteenth century</a> <a href="/wiki/British_Army_during_the_American_Revolutionary_War" title="British Army during the American Revolutionary War">British Army during the American Revolutionary War</a> <a href="/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Victorian_Era" title="British Army during the Victorian Era">British Army during the Victorian Era</a> <a href="/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Second_World_War" title="British Army during the Second World War">British Army during the Second World War</a> while some just need formatting or lacked of inline citations other are incomplete... <a href="/wiki/User:Mr.Lovecraft" title="User:Mr.Lovecraft">Mr.Lovecraft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr.Lovecraft" title="User talk:Mr.Lovecraft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700-British_Army" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700-British_Army"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700-British_Army"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starex_Night-20241128113600-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700"></span>Are you just new here at wikipedia? <a href="/wiki/User:Starex_Night" title="User:Starex Night">Starex Night</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Starex_Night" title="User talk:Starex Night">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Starex_Night-20241128113600-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Starex_Night-20241128113600-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Starex_Night-20241128113600-Mr.Lovecraft-20241127144700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241128114400-Starex_Night-20241128113600"></span>Mr Lovecraft has been a registered account since 2021. You (on the other hand) have been here less than a month. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241128114400-Starex_Night-20241128113600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241128114400-Starex_Night-20241128113600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241128114400-Starex_Night-20241128113600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:CIR" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:CIR-20241129201400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:CIR-20241129201400"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIR">WP:CIR</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:CIR-20241129201400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: WP:CIR"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-100.36.106.199-20241129201400-WP:CIR"></span>If you cannot read a diff effectively, you should not be policing people who correct errors in templates. The unsigned template was filled out in error, and the hat template needs to be placed inside the section it covers, not outside, in order to work properly with archiving. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/100.36.106.199" title="Special:Contributions/100.36.106.199">100.36.106.199</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:100.36.106.199" title="User talk:100.36.106.199">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-100.36.106.199-20241129201400-WP:CIR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-100.36.106.199-20241129201400-WP:CIR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-100.36.106.199-20241129201400-WP:CIR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241130105900-100.36.106.199-20241129201400"></span>That was not the only refactoring you made. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241130105900-100.36.106.199-20241129201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241130105900-100.36.106.199-20241129201400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241130105900-100.36.106.199-20241129201400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and_military_historian_of_the_year_awards" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and-20241130000000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and-20241130000000"></span>Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and-20241130000000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241130000000-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and"></span>Voting is now open for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military History">WikiProject Military History</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards/MHNOTY" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/MHNOTY">newcomer of the year</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards/MHOTY" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/MHOTY">military historian of the year</a> awards for 2024! The top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki. Cast your votes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Nominations_for_military_history_newcomer_of_the_year_for_2024_are_open!" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history">here</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Nominations_for_military_historian_of_the_year_for_2024_are_open!" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history">here</a> respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2024. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. MediaWiki message delivery via <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241130000000-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241130000000-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241130000000-Voting_is_now_open_for_the_WikiProject_Military_History_newcomer_of_the_year_and"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox-20241202144700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox-20241202144700"></span>Revert at <a href="/wiki/Template:Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox" title="Template:Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox">Template : Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox-20241202144700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Revert at Template : Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FOARP-20241202144700-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox"></span>Hi Steven, I see you've reverted adding of North Korea in my last edit at <a href="/wiki/Template:Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox" title="Template:Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox">Template : Russian invasion of Ukraine infobox</a>. To explain my move, I think the discussion has already run its course and the numerical and argumentation grounds, particularly considering that there were 16 support !votes and 3 oppose !votes, and both arguments were based in PAGs, firmly supports adding North Korea. I intend to revert your reversion because requiring an uninvolved admin close here is unnecessary and likely to add months to doing something that the community has already made a clear decision on. I think this may be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:1RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:1RR">WP:1RR</a> page since it deals with CTOPs, so please be aware of that. <a href="/wiki/User:FOARP" title="User:FOARP">FOARP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FOARP" title="User talk:FOARP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-FOARP-20241202144700-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FOARP-20241202144700-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FOARP-20241202144700-Revert_at_Template_:_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_infobox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FOARP-20241202145500-FOARP-20241202144700"></span>You think that, and (as I stated) I disagree that it is a clear snow close, so wait until it is closed. |<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <dl><dd>OK, but that isn't a decision you can make by yourself - we don't have a "dog in the manger" veto on Wikipedia, where a small minority continue to block a change after it has clearly received consensus. <a href="/wiki/User:FOARP" title="User:FOARP">FOARP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FOARP" title="User talk:FOARP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-FOARP-20241202145500-FOARP-20241202144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FOARP-20241202145500-FOARP-20241202144700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FOARP-20241202145500-FOARP-20241202144700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202145700-FOARP-20241202145500"></span>Nor is it yours, as you are involved, so wait for an uninvolved admin to judge it, I am willing to why are you not? <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202145700-FOARP-20241202145500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202145700-FOARP-20241202145500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202145700-FOARP-20241202145500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FOARP-20241202151000-Slatersteven-20241202145700"></span>I think I've explained the issue - getting an uninvolved admin close could take months, meanwhile the result is now beyond question. But you're insisting on an uninvolved close - and it has to be an admin apparently? OK. <a href="/wiki/User:FOARP" title="User:FOARP">FOARP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FOARP" title="User talk:FOARP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-FOARP-20241202151000-Slatersteven-20241202145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FOARP-20241202151000-Slatersteven-20241202145700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FOARP-20241202151000-Slatersteven-20241202145700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202151300-FOARP-20241202151000"></span>And I disagree it is beyond question, as it should be policy-based, and not just on the number of votes, and we are not uninvolved enough to make that decision. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202151300-FOARP-20241202151000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202151300-FOARP-20241202151000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202151300-FOARP-20241202151000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202151600-FOARP-20241202151000"></span>And it does not matter if it takes months, we are an encyclopedia not a newspaper, we can wait until the war is over if we want. There is no rush for us to add anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202151600-FOARP-20241202151000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202151600-FOARP-20241202151000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202151600-FOARP-20241202151000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rajiv_Dixit_RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC-20241202194700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC-20241202194700"></span>Rajiv Dixit RfC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC-20241202194700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Rajiv Dixit RfC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hipal-20241202194700-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC"></span>Given the continued edit warring is strongly supported by the RfC, I think it's long past time we get it closed. Don't you agree? - <a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hipal" title="User talk:Hipal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Hipal-20241202194700-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hipal-20241202194700-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hipal-20241202194700-Rajiv_Dixit_RfC"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202194800-Hipal-20241202194700"></span>No issue with an independent close. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202194800-Hipal-20241202194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202194800-Hipal-20241202194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202194800-Hipal-20241202194700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202195000-Hipal-20241202194700"></span>But I am unsure what view you think is strongly supported. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202195000-Hipal-20241202194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202195000-Hipal-20241202194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202195000-Hipal-20241202194700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20241202195700-Hipal-20241202194700"></span>I have asked for a close by a third party. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Slatersteven-20241202195700-Hipal-20241202194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20241202195700-Hipal-20241202194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20241202195700-Hipal-20241202194700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IP_edits_to_RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-IP_edits_to_RfC-20241212232800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IP_edits_to_RfC-20241212232800"></span>IP edits to RfC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IP_edits_to_RfC-20241212232800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: IP edits to RfC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Placeholderer-20241212232800-IP_edits_to_RfC"></span>Just mentioning that <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.241.128.28" title="Special:Contributions/77.241.128.28">an IP</a> has commented several times on the North Korea RfC, and that those edits have been up for several days, in case you'd like to do anything about that <a href="/wiki/User:Placeholderer" title="User:Placeholderer">Placeholderer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Placeholderer" title="User talk:Placeholderer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven#c-Placeholderer-20241212232800-IP_edits_to_RfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Placeholderer-20241212232800-IP_edits_to_RfC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Placeholderer-20241212232800-IP_edits_to_RfC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Astrology_additions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Astrology_additions-20241214151200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Astrology_additions-20241214151200"></span>Astrology additions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Astrology_additions-20241214151200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Astrology additions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dz3-20241214151200-Astrology_additions"></span>Hello you reverted my edit to astrology. I see its a protected article so perhaps I wasn't following protocol (should I just have added the suggestion into the astrology talk page?). On your substantive comment to the revert I'd say the reference is not definitive (of course!) but it is uptodate and critically contributes to the article by discussing forms of astrology from round the world usually disussed separately. This makes it notable/worth including I think. 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