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While it is a great thing for them to contribute money towards a pro-peace prize, their contributions towards that line of action does not make their art amazing. Quotes from communities which receive monetary benefit from the artist are not neutral. Consider for example, that the two main sources in the "notes" section come from 1) PaulRe's site or a site that is for the organization he runs to distribute his peace price 2) The university of the students that he presented his prizes to. Those are not going to be neutral points of view to evaluate artistic talent by. </p><p>Not to be harsh, and I realize that art is difficult to judge, but if you go to deviantart.com or elfwood for example, within the first five pages, if you look up "lineart" or "black and white" you will find artwork that is wonderful black and white....So to call someone "enormously gifted" in art, well, those terms should perhaps be reserved for pieces that have been internationally recognized and stand on their own, without any ties to money. Otherwise, about 70% of the people on DeviantArt are "enormously gifted" artists and those words start to lose strength of meaning. </p><p>Suggestion: Find an article by an actual national or international artists' association, or something similar that is peer reviewed and not tied at all to money, and link that as your sources for the praise.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.33.240.95" title="Special:Contributions/192.33.240.95">192.33.240.95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:192.33.240.95" title="User talk:192.33.240.95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_R%C3%A9#c-192.33.240.95-2012-03-20T20:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 20 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-192.33.240.95-2012-03-20T20:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-192.33.240.95-2012-03-20T20:27:00.000Z"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peace_Prize" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peace_Prize-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peace_Prize-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z"></span>Peace Prize<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peace_Prize-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_R%C3%A9&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Peace Prize"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theredproject-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z-Peace_Prize"></span>Putting this here: I just TNT'd the off topic ADVERT section for the Paul Bartlett Ré Peace Prize that originally had its own article. In 2018, the article about the prize itself was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Bartlett_R%C3%A9_Peace_Prize&type=revision&diff=851060120&oldid=851055396&diffmode=visual">Speedily Redirected</a> here, b/c the prize itself isn't notable. I note that <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Paolo_Peace&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Paolo Peace (page does not exist)">Paolo Peace</a> reverted that redirect, much the way they just <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_R%C3%A9&type=revision&diff=959674883&oldid=959650261&diffmode=visual">reverted my TNT</a>. User <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Paolo_Peace&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Paolo Peace (page does not exist)">Paolo Peace</a>, given that you appear to be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Single-purpose_account" title="Wikipedia:Single-purpose account">Wikipedia:Single-purpose account</a> that only edits these two Ré pages, and your name references the subject's name itself, I would like to ask you to declare any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Wikipedia:Conflict of interest</a> you may have. <a href="/wiki/User:Theredproject" title="User:Theredproject">Theredproject</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theredproject" title="User talk:Theredproject">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_R%C3%A9#c-Theredproject-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z-Peace_Prize" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theredproject-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z-Peace_Prize"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theredproject-2020-05-30T14:17:00.000Z-Peace_Prize"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:Paolo_Peace_COI?" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Paolo_Peace_COI?-2021-03-01T08:28:00.000Z"><span id="User:Paolo_Peace_COI.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:Paolo_Peace_COI?-2021-03-01T08:28:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Paolo_Peace&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Paolo Peace (page does not exist)">User:Paolo Peace</a> COI?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:Paolo_Peace_COI?-2021-03-01T08:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_R%C3%A9&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: User:Paolo Peace COI?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theredproject-2021-03-01T08:28:00.000Z-User:Paolo_Peace_COI?"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Paolo_Peace&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Paolo Peace (page does not exist)">Paolo Peace</a>:</span> I reverted your changes, as the award is a vanity award given by Marquis Who’s Who. Please stop adding any content to this page until you make a statement about your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> here on the talk page or your user page, given that you appear to be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Single-purpose_account" title="Wikipedia:Single-purpose account">Wikipedia:Single-purpose account</a> that only edits these two Ré pages, and your name references the subject's name itself. 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