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So that no permutations are stored for the same set of tags, pull tag titles sorted by their id. this.sort( function(a,b){ return ( parseInt(a.id) - parseInt(b.id) ) } ).forEach( function(tag){ string += tag.title +";" }); return string; }; !function( tag_list ) { var count=0; try { tag_list.forEach( function(tag) { o.tag_list.push({ title :tag.getAttribute('content') ,id :tag.getAttribute('data-tag-id') ,category :tag.getAttribute('data-tag-category')? tag.getAttribute('data-tag-category'): "PLAIN-VANILLA" }); count++; }); if (count===0) o.tag_list.push({ title:'ZOMBIE', id:0, category:'ZOMBIE' }); o.tag_list.string = o.tag_list.toString(); // console.log("tag_list", o.tag_list); } catch(err) { o.tag_list.push({ title:'ZOMBIE', id:0, category:'ZOMBIE' }); console.log("ERROR-piwik: tag_list"); } }( document.head.querySelectorAll("meta[name='taz:tag']") ); } // === setup piwik bucket _paq.push([ "setCustomUrl" ,o.custom_url ]); _paq.push([ "setDocumentTitle" ,o.page_title ]); // debug parameters //console.log('piwik setup', o); _paq.push([ "setCustomVariable" ,1 ,"channel" ,o.channel ,"page" ]); _paq.push([ "setCustomVariable" ,2 ,"area" ,o.area ,"page" ]); _paq.push([ "setCustomVariable" ,3 ,"department" ,o.department ,"page" ]); if ( o.is_article && o.has_tags ) _paq.push([ "setCustomVariable", 4, "tag", o.tag_list.toString(), "page" ]); _paq.push([ "trackPageView" ]); _paq.push([ "enableLinkTracking" ]); // === load and setup piwik tracking (function() { var d=document , g=d.createElement("script") , s=d.getElementById("piwik-init") ; _paq.push([ "setTrackerUrl" ,o.piwik_script ]); _paq.push([ "setSiteId" ,o.piwik_site_id ]); g.type = "text/javascript"; g.id = "piwik-loaded"; g.async = true; g.defer = true; g.src = "https://taz.de/lib/share/js/piwik.js"; g.onload = function() { p.log( 'setup', o ) } s.parentNode.insertBefore( g, s ); })(); // === tag tracking if ( o.is_article && o.has_tags ) { o.tag_list.forEach( function(tag) { p.trackEvent( "TAG", "TAG-ARTICLE-"+ tag.category, "TAG - t"+ tag.id +": "+ tag.title ) }); } if ( o.is_tag ) { p.trackEvent( "TAG", "TAG-LANDINGPAGE", "TAG - "+ o.title ); } // === debugging //p.log( _paq ); // remove hash: see #16555 // this is running for the way from one url to another, but not for more if( location.hash.indexOf('#!formfill:') ==0 || location.hash.indexOf('#matomo:') ==0 ) { if( history && history.replaceState instanceof Function ){ history.replaceState({}, document.title, location.href.split('#')[0] ); } } })(); // piwik setup // some events taken from olf frontend (custom-piwik.js) function trackEventBasedOnCondition(selector, category, action, name) { if (document.querySelector(selector)) { //console.log('trackEvent', category, action, name); p.trackEvent(category, action, name); } } function trackClickEvent(selector, category, action, name) { document.addEventListener("click", function(event) { if (event.target.closest(selector)) { p.trackEvent(category, action, name); } }); } // you find this events matomo main dashbooard or under behaviour document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function() { setTimeout(function() { trackEventBasedOnCondition("body.isArticle", 'element', 'displayed', document.querySelector("#tzi-paywahl-fg") ? 'ARTIKELAUFRUF_mit_Layer' : 'ARTIKELAUFRUF_ohne_Layer');}, 1000); trackEventBasedOnCondition("body.isAuthor", 'element', 'displayed', 'AUTHOR-PAGE'); trackEventBasedOnCondition("body.isArticle", 'element', 'displayed', 'ARTIKELAUFRUF'); trackEventBasedOnCondition("body.isLongread", 'element', 'displayed', 'ARTIKELAUFRUF-LONGREAD'); trackClickEvent("#tzi-paywahl-fg .tzi-paywahl__yes", 'tzi', 'clicked', 'LAYER-JA'); trackClickEvent("#tzi-paywahl-fg .tzi-paywahl__close", 'tzi', 'clicked', 'LAYER-GERADE-NICHT'); trackClickEvent("#tzi-paywahl-fg .tzi-paywahl__subscriber", 'tzi', 'clicked', 'LAYER-SCHON-DABEI'); trackClickEvent("#tzi-shackle .tzi-shackle__yes", 'tzi', 'clicked', 'LASCHE-JA'); // if you want to track SM buttons // trackClickEvent("#meineiddesbuttons", 'element', 'clicked', 'MEINE BEZEICHUNG FÜR DEN BUTTON IN MATOMO'); // bestr place for this? document.body.classList.add('js-is-active'); // css helpers + feature detection here if (CSS.supports('selector(:has(*))')) { document.body.classList.add('css-has-supported'); } else { document.body.classList.add('css-has-not-supported'); } const isSafari = navigator.vendor && navigator.vendor.indexOf('Apple') > -1 && navigator.userAgent && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('CriOS') == -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('FxiOS') == -1; if (isSafari) document.documentElement.classList.add('is-safari'); }) </script> </head> <div x-cloak="" class="header-nav-wing " :class="wingIsActive ? 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' closing ' : ''" aria-label="Hauptnavigation" x-data="{closing: false}" @click.outside="wingIsActive = false"> <div class="is-flex is-align-items-center "> <form x-data="{searchWord: ''}" role="search" class="taz-wing-search full mgr-medium is-flex is-align-items-center " method="POST" action="https://taz.de/!s=/"> <input @keyup=" searchWord = $el.value.toLowerCase()" name="s" minlength="2" required="required" type="text" id="wing-search" class=" ph-medium full taz-wing-search__input has-background-light-button has-text-text" placeholder="taz.de durchsuchen" aria-label="Inhalte suchen"> <button type="submit" class="icon pl-medium pr-small center suche_redhov small " style="margin-left: -100px; height: 24px"></button> </input></form> <button type="button" @click="closing = true" @click.debounce="wingIsActive = false; closing = false" role="button" class="mgl-auto icon small close_redhov wing-close-button" aria-label="close"></button> </div> <div class="mgt-medium dotted-inline"></div> <div class="is-flex is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center"> <a x-data="{allowTransform: true}" href="/Bei-uns-haben-Sie-jeden-Tag-die-Wahl/!v=bd8182f9-0363-4f43-936f-7a2f0666b18c/#matomo:pk_campaign=tzi-Standard&pk_source=taz.de&pk_medium=taz.de-Redaktion&pk_content=aus-kampagne&pk_kwd=tzi-standardkampagne&pk_placement=cta-button-nav" x-init="$el.setAttribute('href', $el.getAttribute('href') + '&via=cta-button-nav'); if ($($el).closest('.header-nav-wing').length || $($el).closest('.navbar-start').length) { allowTransform = false}" title="Denn auf taz.de sind alle Inhalte der taz ohne Paywall und frei zugänglich. Sie können wählen, ob und wie viel Sie dafür bezahlen möchten. Falls Sie gerne und regelmäßig zu Besuch sind, würden wir uns sehr über Ihre Unterstützung freuen. Ihr Beitrag sichert die Unabhängigkeit der taz." style="min-width: 0; padding-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 8px;" class=" button ph-xsmall mgt-0 mgl-small-mobile mgr-small is-flex is-align-items-center is-flex-shrink-0 pulse-animation ph-medium line-height-reset navbar-second-level-link t-decoration-none has-text-white typo-teaser-text-secondary-bold pr-small-mobile pl-small-medium-mobile" :class="[(isMobile || isScrolled) && allowTransform ? '' : 'has-background-tzi', !allowTransform ? ' full mgt-medium is-justify-content-center ' : '']"> <span class="icon no-hover mgr-xsmall small" :class="(isMobile || isScrolled) && allowTransform ? 'heart_tzi_darkhov ' : 'heart_white_redhov '"></span> <span class="navbar-second-level-link-inner is-flex-shrink-0" :class=" (isMobile || isScrolled) && allowTransform ? ' is-hidden' : ''"> taz zahl ich </span> </a> </div> <ul class=" mgt-medium is-flex is-flex-direction-column "> <li class="pv-small level-0 first-item tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <details> <summary class="is-flex"> <a class="typo-drawer-head-section full " href="https://taz.de/Politik/!p4615/"> politik </a> <div class="vertical-line-left-before ph-small is-relative " style="width: 24px; height: 24px; "> <span class=" icon small show_more_grey_redhov no-hover"></span> </div> </summary> <ul> <li class="full level-1 pv-small first-item tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 mgt-small" style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Deutschland/!p4616/"> deutschland </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Europa/!p4617/"> europa </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Amerika/!p4618/"> amerika </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Afrika/!p4621/"> afrika </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Asien/!p4619/"> asien </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Nahost/!p4620/"> nahost </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pt-small last-item tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Politik/Netzpolitik/!p4622/"> netzpolitik </a> </li> </ul> </details> </li> <li class="pv-small level-0 tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <details> <summary class="is-flex"> <a class="typo-drawer-head-section full " href="https://taz.de/Oeko/!p4610/"> öko </a> <div class="vertical-line-left-before ph-small is-relative " style="width: 24px; 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height: 24px; "> <span class=" icon small show_more_grey_redhov no-hover"></span> </div> </summary> <ul> <li class="full level-1 pv-small first-item tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 mgt-small" style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Alltag/!p4632/"> alltag </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Reportage-und-Recherche/!p5265/"> reportage und recherche </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Debatte/!p4633/"> debatte </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Kolumnen/!p4634/"> kolumnen </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Medien/!p4630/"> medien </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Bildung/!p4635/"> bildung </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Gesundheit/!p4637/"> gesundheit </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pv-small tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Reise/!p4638/"> reise </a> </li> <li class="full level-1 pt-small last-item tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <a class=" full typo-drawer-subsection pv-small" href="https://taz.de/Gesellschaft/Podcast/!p5334/"> podcasts </a> </li> </ul> </details> </li> <li class="pv-small level-0 tablet-order-6 mobile-order-6 " style="border-top: .2px solid #565656"> <details> <summary class="is-flex"> <a class="typo-drawer-head-section full " href="https://taz.de/Kultur/!p4639/"> kultur </a> <div class="vertical-line-left-before ph-small is-relative " style="width: 24px; 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Doch seine Kritik an der AfD ist scharf: „Mehr Schwachsinn kann man nicht verbreiten“, sagt der Geschäftsführer des Verbandes Schiffbau und Meerestechnik über die Forderung von <a href="/ZDF-Sendung-Klartext/!6069601/" target="_blank" class="link in-text-link">AfD-Chefin Alice Weide</a>l, Windräder abzureißen. Die Firmen, die Lüken vertritt, leben auch davon, Windparks auf dem Meer zu errichten.</p> <p class="bodytext paragraph typo-bodytext is-block column pv-0 is-8-tablet mgh-auto-tablet mobile-order-2" pos="2">Der Lobbyist lehnt das Wirtschaftsprogramm der Hartrechten grundsätzlich ab. Mit der „Russland-Freundlichkeit“ der Partei „können unsere Mitglieder nichts anfangen“. Denn in manchem Betrieb komme es mittlerweile als Bestandteil hybrider Kriegsführung der russischen Regierung zu Sabotageakten. 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Fünf Tage vor der Bundestagswahl eingeladen hatte das Firmen-Netzwerk „Vielfalt ist Zukunft“, das sich unter anderem für eine zivilisierte Einwanderungspolitik einsetzt. Ihm gehören Unternehmen wie Ikea und Organisationen wie die Unternehmerinitiative Bayern an.</p> <p class="bodytext paragraph typo-bodytext is-block column pv-0 is-8-tablet mgh-auto-tablet mobile-order-5" pos="4">Ingrid Rieken, Personalvorständin der Firma MAN Energy Solutions mit Sitz in Augsburg, sagt: „Menschen müssen kommen können, aber auch kommen wollen.“ Um künftig ausreichend Beschäftigte zu gewinnen, sei man auf ausländische BewerberInnen angewiesen, die aber nur den Umzug erwögen, wenn die Atmosphäre in Deutschland angenehm sei. 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Fast genauso entschieden lehnen sie der Umfrage zufolge die <a href="/Weidel-zur-AfD-Kanzlerkandidatin-gewaehlt/!6061592/" target="_blank" class="link in-text-link">einwanderungsfeindliche Politik der AfD</a> ab. 90 Prozent der befragten ManagerInnen halten Arbeitsmigration für nötig.</p> <p class="bodytext paragraph typo-bodytext is-block column pv-0 is-8-tablet mgh-auto-tablet mobile-order-8" pos="7">Die Unternehmen haben auch einfach Angst, dass ihnen Umsätze, Gewinne und Märkte verloren gehen. Die Verluste könnten enorm sein, hat das IW berechnet. Ein Austritt Deutschlands aus dem Euro, wie AfD-PolitikerInnen ihn immer wieder ins Spiel bringen, würde die Wirtschaftsleistung um 140 Milliarden Euro jährlich reduzieren. Eine extreme Politik der Ausländerfeindlichkeit würde bis zu 650 Milliarden Euro kosten. 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Schließlich kann die demografische Entwicklung laut IW nur mit ausländischen Erwerbstätigen ausgeglichen werden. Dabei erwirtschaften 6,7 Millionen MigrantInnen schon heute 13,2 Prozent der deutschen Bruttowertschöpfung. Besonders im Osten haben sie demnach die Wirtschaft vorangebracht.</p> <p class="bodytext paragraph last typo-bodytext is-block column pv-0 is-8-tablet mgh-auto-tablet mobile-order-11" pos="9">Aber wie stabil ist die Front der Wirtschaft gegen die AfD? Beim Weltwirtschaftsforum in Davos im Januar war zu beobachten, wie einige Konzernchefs, etwa Coca-Cola-Vorstand James Quincey, dem neuen <a href="/-Die-USA-unter-Trump-/!6069728/" target="_blank" class="link in-text-link">US-Präsidenten Donald Trump</a> den Hof machten. 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Doch seine Kritik an der AfD ist scharf: „Mehr Schwachsinn kann man nicht verbreiten“, sagt der Geschäftsführer des Verbandes Schiffbau und Meerestechnik über die Forderung von AfD-Chefin Alice Weidel, Windräder abzureißen. Die Firmen, die Lüken vertritt, leben auch davon, Windparks auf dem Meer zu errichten.\n Der Lobbyist lehnt das Wirtschaftsprogramm der Hartrechten grundsätzlich ab. Mit der „Russland-Freundlichkeit“ der Partei „können unsere Mitglieder nichts anfangen“. Denn in manchem Betrieb komme es mittlerweile als Bestandteil hybrider Kriegsführung der russischen Regierung zu Sabotageakten. Zur Forderung der AfD, migrantische Beschäftigte des Landes zu verweisen und Einwanderung zu verhindern, sagt Lüken: „Dann können unsere Betriebe zumachen.“ Die AfD sei „nicht die Stimme des Volkes“, sie spreche für eine Minderheit, deren Positionen die große Mehrheit der Bevölkerung ablehne.\n \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n So deutlich äußerten sich mehrere VertreterInnen der Wirtschaft am Dienstag im Haus der Bundespressekonferenz in Berlin. Fünf Tage vor der Bundestagswahl eingeladen hatte das Firmen-Netzwerk „Vielfalt ist Zukunft“, das sich unter anderem für eine zivilisierte Einwanderungspolitik einsetzt. Ihm gehören Unternehmen wie Ikea und Organisationen wie die Unternehmerinitiative Bayern an.\n Ingrid Rieken, Personalvorständin der Firma MAN Energy Solutions mit Sitz in Augsburg, sagt: „Menschen müssen kommen können, aber auch kommen wollen.“ Um künftig ausreichend Beschäftigte zu gewinnen, sei man auf ausländische BewerberInnen angewiesen, die aber nur den Umzug erwögen, wenn die Atmosphäre in Deutschland angenehm sei. Riekens Firma fertigt unter anderem große Dieselmotoren, Dampfturbinen, aber auch Elektrolyseure und Wärmepumpen. „Wir arbeiten am Klimaschutz“, betont die Managerin, „ihn zurückzudrängen wäre für unser Unternehmen fatal.“ Fabian Zacharias, Mitglied der Geschäftsleitung von Bitkom, des Verbandes der Digital-Unternehmen, erklärt, er halte die AfD für „technologiefeindlich“.\n 90 Prozent halten Arbeitsmigration für notwendig\n Diese und ähnliche Argumente liefern die Erklärung für die Ergebnisse einer Umfrage des Instituts der Deutschen Wirtschaft (IW), die das Vielfalt-ist-Zukunft-Netzwerk in Auftrag gegeben hat. Demnach befürworten nur gut 3 Prozent der befragten 900 Firmen die ablehnende Haltung der AfD zum Euro. Fast genauso entschieden lehnen sie der Umfrage zufolge die einwanderungsfeindliche Politik der AfD ab. 90 Prozent der befragten ManagerInnen halten Arbeitsmigration für nötig.\n Die Unternehmen haben auch einfach Angst, dass ihnen Umsätze, Gewinne und Märkte verloren gehen. Die Verluste könnten enorm sein, hat das IW berechnet. Ein Austritt Deutschlands aus dem Euro, wie AfD-PolitikerInnen ihn immer wieder ins Spiel bringen, würde die Wirtschaftsleistung um 140 Milliarden Euro jährlich reduzieren. Eine extreme Politik der Ausländerfeindlichkeit würde bis zu 650 Milliarden Euro kosten. Nimmt man beide Zahlen zusammen, erreichen die Schäden der AfD-Wirtschaftspolitik die Größenordnung eines Fünftels des deutschen Bruttoinlandsprodukts.\n \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n Dies sei ein „massiver Wohlstandsverlust“, kommentiert die Präsidentin des Verbands der Automobilindustrie, Hildegard Müller. Schließlich kann die demografische Entwicklung laut IW nur mit ausländischen Erwerbstätigen ausgeglichen werden. Dabei erwirtschaften 6,7 Millionen MigrantInnen schon heute 13,2 Prozent der deutschen Bruttowertschöpfung. Besonders im Osten haben sie demnach die Wirtschaft vorangebracht.\n Aber wie stabil ist die Front der Wirtschaft gegen die AfD? 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' is-10-tablet is-11-mobile ' : ' is-7-tablet is-10-mobile '"> <div class="text_field field" x-data="{count: 0 }"> <div class="input_label_wrapper is-flex is-flex-direction-column is-justify-content-center wrapper_textarea"> <textarea name="taz_Kommune[newcomment_input]" id="taz_Kommune[newcomment_input]" class="text input typo-form-input-entry has-border small_textarea" placeholder="Was möchten Sie beitragen?" tabindex="1" x-ref="countme" x-on:keyup="count = $refs.countme.value.length" readonly="readonly" x-bind:readonly="!$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn" x-model="userComment" x-on:focus="loginOrWriteComment($event.target)" maxlength="1200"> </textarea> <label class="label typo-form-input-topline "> Kommentar </label> </div> <div class="mgt-xsmall typo-notifications-inline charCounter mgb-small-medium"> <span :class="count >= $refs.countme.maxLength ? 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'' : 'einloggen'"></span> </button> <div x-cloak="" x-show="showUserDropdown" @click.away="showUserDropdown = false" style=" position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 30;" class=" p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay typo-form-input-entry " @click=" showUserDropdown = false"> <div x-show="!$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn"> <a class="is-clickable" @click="openLoginModal();"><div class="">Einloggen</div></a> <a href="https://taz.de/kommune/post.php?a=registration" target="_blank" class="is-clickable"><div class="mgt-small-medium">Registrieren</div></a> <a href="https://portal.taz.de/?a=nopw" target="_blank" class="is-clickable"><div class="mgt-small-medium">Passwort vergessen?</div></a> </div> <div x-show="$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn"> <a :href="userProfileUrl !== '' ? userProfileUrl : 'javascript:void(0)' " class="is-clickable"><div class="mgt-small-medium">Profil anzeigen</div> </a> <a href="https://taz.de/kommune/post.php?a=registration" target="_blank" class="is-clickable"><div class="mgt-small-medium">Profil bearbeiten</div> </a> <a class="is-clickable" @click="openLoginModal(); " x-show="$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn"><div class="mgt-small-medium">Logout</div></a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="columns is-multiline is-mobile " x-show="$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn && commentboxFocused" style="display:none"> <div class="column is-12-mobile" :class="writeBoxIsInReplyLayout ? ' mgl-xxxlarge mgl-0-mobile ' : ' is-offset-3 is-6-tablet '"> <div class="is-flex "> <button type="submit" id="taz_Kommune[newcomment_post]" class=" mobile-order-2 tablet-order-2 mgr-medium submit button typo-button-text primary-button mgt-0 " x-bind:disabled="busy" tabindex="1" title="Abschicken">Abschicken </button> <button type="button" id="taz_Kommune[newcomment_cancel]" class=" mobile-order-2 tablet-order-2 mgr-medium submit button typo-button-text secondary-button mgt-0 " @click="resetCommentbox()" tabindex="1" title="Abbrechen">Abbrechen </button> </div> </div> <div class="column mgt-small is-12-mobile " :class="writeBoxIsInReplyLayout ? ' mgl-xxxlarge mgl-0-mobile is-10-tablet ' : ' is-offset-3 is-7-tablet '"> <div class="has-background-background-forms p-small-medium" x-show="$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn && commentboxFocused" style="display:none"> <p class=" typo-form-input-topline "> Bitte halten Sie sich an unsere <a href="/LeserInnen-Kommentare/!118006/" target="_blank" class="has-text link">Netiquette</a>.<br> Haben Sie Probleme beim Kommentieren oder Registrieren? Dann mailen Sie uns bitte an <a href="mailto:kommune@taz.de" class="has-text link"> kommune@taz.de</a>. </br></p> </div> </div> </div> </form> <aside id="modal-rgc68jafz" class="modal article module-article"> <div class="modal-background"></div> <div class="modal-card "> <header class="is-flex is-flex-direction-column modal-card-head"> <div class="is-flex full is-align-items-flex-start is-flex-direction-row "> <p class="full mgr-medium typo-head-medium">Login Kommune</p> <button type="button" role="button" class="mgl-auto delete-modal icon medium-large close_circle_redhov" aria-label="close"> </button> </div> <div class="dotted-inline mgt-medium" style="display:initial"></div> </header> <section class="modal-card-body pt-0"> <div class="columns is-flex is-justify-content-center"> <div class=" column is-8"> <div><div class="kommune_login_modal "> <script type="module"> import { TazUser } from '/lib/taz-verlag-node/js/user_auth.js' if (typeof window.TazUser === 'undefined') { window.TazUser = TazUser } </script> <div x-data="{ // TODO: To keep modular this has its own isLoggedIn state function (though has been called already in ...comments_write.html ) init() { if (typeof Alpine.store('TazUser') === 'undefined') { Alpine.store('TazUser', { isLoggedIn: false }) } document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', () => { $store.TazUser.isLoggedIn = window.TazUser.isLoggedIn(); }); }, email: '', password: '', errorMsg: '', busy: false, closeParentModal(el) { // close modal (if login or logout box is wrapped in modal) const modal = el.closest('.modal') if (modal) { setTimeout(function() {modal.classList.remove('is-active')}, 0); // const input = $(el).find('input[type=submit]'); // input.attr('type', 'text').removeClass('button').text('Eingeloggt'); // console.log('input', input) } }, logout() { this.email = ''; this.password = ''; this.busy = true const result = window.TazUser.logoutUser({email: '', password: ''}); result.then((result) => { this.errorMsg = result.success ? '' : result.message window.popToast(result.message) $store.TazUser.isLoggedIn = window.TazUser.isLoggedIn() if (result.success) { this.errorMsg = '' this.closeParentModal($el) } }).finally(() => { this.busy = false }) }, login() { this.busy = true const result = window.TazUser.loginUser({email: this.email, password: this.password}); result.then((result) => { this.errorMsg = result.success ? '' : result.message window.popToast(result.message) $store.TazUser.isLoggedIn = window.TazUser.isLoggedIn() if (result.success) { this.errorMsg = '' this.closeParentModal($el) } }).finally(() => { this.busy = false }) }, }"> <div class="errormsg has-text-primary typo-r-subline-detail" x-text="errorMsg" x-show="errorMsg"> </div> <form name="form" method="post" id="taz-user-login" autocomplete="on" class="form sect sect_form js jsFormtaz_Kommune_user_comment_login first typo-r-subline-detail" x-show="!$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn" x-on:submit.prevent="login()"> <p class="mgb-large">Sie können nur als eingeloggter taz-User kommentieren. Sie haben noch keinen taz-Account? <a href="https://taz.de/kommune/post.php?a=registration" class="link in-text-link has-text">Registrieren Sie sich hier</a>.</p> <div class="line_field field"> <div class="input_label_wrapper is-flex is-align-items-center wrapper_text "> <input name="taz_Kommune[email]" id="taz_Kommune[email]" type="text" autocomplete="username" class="text form-control typo-form-input-entry has-background-white input right has-border" tabindex="1" x-model="email"></input> <label for="taz_Kommune[email]" class="is-flex is-align-items-center label typo-form-input-topline"> <span> E-Mail </span> </label> </div> </div> <div class="line_field field"> <div class="input_label_wrapper is-flex is-align-items-center wrapper_text "> <input name="taz_Kommune[password]" id="taz_Kommune[password]" type="password" autocomplete="current-password" class="text form-control typo-form-input-entry has-background-white input right has-border" tabindex="1" x-model="password"></input> <label for="taz_Kommune[password]" class="is-flex is-align-items-center label typo-form-input-topline"> <span> Passwort </span> </label> </div> </div> <p class="mgt-medium mgb-large"> <a href="https://portal.taz.de/?a=nopw" class="link in-text-link has-text">Passwort vergessen</a> </p> <button type="submit" id="taz_Kommune[login_button]" class=" mobile-order-2 tablet-order-2 mgr-medium submit button typo-button-text primary-button " x-bind:disabled="busy" tabindex="1" title="Einloggen">Einloggen </button> </form> <form name="form" method="post" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" id="send-comment" class="${this.styleFormClass}" x-show="$store.TazUser.isLoggedIn" x-on:submit.prevent="logout()"> <p class="typo-r-subline-detail "> Sie sind eingeloggt. </p> <button type="submit" id="taz_Kommune[logout_button]" class=" mobile-order-2 tablet-order-2 mgr-medium submit button typo-button-text primary-button " x-bind:disabled="busy" tabindex="1" title="Ausloggen">Ausloggen </button> </form> </div></div></div> </div> </div> </section> </div> </aside> </div> </div> <aside id="modal-user__kommune_comments_report" class="modal article module-article"> <div class="modal-background"></div> <div class="modal-card small"> <header class="is-flex is-flex-direction-column modal-card-head"> <div class="is-flex full is-align-items-flex-start is-flex-direction-row "> <p class="full mgr-medium typo-head-medium">Kommentar melden</p> <button type="button" role="button" class="mgl-auto delete-modal icon medium-large close_circle_redhov" aria-label="close"> </button> </div> <div class="dotted-inline mgt-medium" style="display:initial"></div> </header> <section class="modal-card-body pt-0"> <div class="columns is-flex is-justify-content-center"> <div class=" column is-8"> <div x-data="{ commentReport: '', // meldung of a comment busy: false, reportComment() { this.busy = true // TODO: check to URI-escape this properly please const reportData = { post: this.commentReport, pid: this.reportid, // Injects reported Post ID from parent .community div's x-data } console.log(reportData) const result = window.TazUser.reportComment(reportData); result.then((result) => { console.log(result); this.errorMsg = result.status ? '' : result.message window.popToast('Der Kommentar wurde gemeldet.') }).finally(() => { // Enable the 'submit' button again this.busy = false }) }, }"> <form name="form" method="post" id="kommune_form_postcomment" class="form sect sect_form js jsFormtaz_Kommune_user_comment_login first" x-on:submit.prevent="reportComment()"> <p>Informationen zu allgemeinen Moderationskriterien sind in unserer <a class="link in-text-link" href="/LeserInnen-Kommentare/!118006/">Netiquette</a> zusammengefasst.</p> <div class="mgt-medium"> <div class="text_field field" x-data="{count: 0 }"> <div class="input_label_wrapper is-flex is-flex-direction-column is-justify-content-center wrapper_textarea"> <textarea name="taz_Kommune[kommentar_melden_input]" id="taz_Kommune[kommentar_melden_input]" class="text input typo-form-input-entry has-border" placeholder="Warum halten Sie diesen Kommentar für problematisch?" tabindex="1" x-ref="countme" x-on:keyup="count = $refs.countme.value.length" x-model="commentReport"> </textarea> <label class="label typo-form-input-topline "> Meldegrund </label> </div> <div class="mgt-xsmall typo-notifications-inline charCounter mgb-small-medium"> <span :class="count >= $refs.countme.maxLength ? 'has-text-notifications-error-text' : 'has-text-notifications-success-text'" x-html="count"></span> von <span x-html="$refs.countme.maxLength"></span><span> Zeichen</span> </div> </div> </div> <div class="is-pulled-left mgb-medium "> <button type="submit" id="taz_Kommune[kommentar_melden_submit]" class=" mobile-order-2 tablet-order-2 mgr-medium submit button typo-button-text primary-button mgt-large " x-bind:disabled="busy" ,="" @click.debounce="marOtaz_de.closeModal($el.closest('.modal.is-active'))" tabindex="1" title="Kommentar melden">Kommentar melden </button> </div> </form> </div> </div> </div> </section> </div> </aside> </div> </section> <ul class="comments-list comments-container columns is-multiline "> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4948256" data-cid="4948256"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku105153/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/105153.webp"> </img></figure> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku105153/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">vieldenker</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4948256'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4948256)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T18:13:27+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">18:13 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Wer nicht nur wie Frau Dr. W. theoretisch „etwas“ von Wirtschaft versteht, sondern auch ganz real entscheidend in einem produktiven Unternehmen tätig ist, wird die Kleinkrämerkulisse der Alternative für Dummies nicht ernst nehmen können. Mit echtem Sachverstand hat das auf jeden Fall nichts zu tun.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4948256)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">vieldenker antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4948200" data-cid="4948200"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku73789/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 213.76); color:oklch(35% 0.15 213.76);"> <span>A</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku73789/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Šarru-kīnu</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4948200'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4948200)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T16:41:34+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">16:41 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Kann mich noch an Zeiten erinnern als bei Linken alle Alarmglocken schrillten wenn die Wirtschaft etwas gut fand.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4948200)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Šarru-kīnu antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947850" data-cid="4947850"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku96556/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 182.45); color:oklch(35% 0.15 182.45);"> <span>DH</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku96556/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Dr.med. Heinz de Moll</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947850'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947850)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T10:48:53+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">10:48 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Es geht um nicht verstehen wollen ! Sie könnten, aber sie wollen nicht ! Palmström : … weil nicht sein kann, was nicht sein darf . Selbst Medien übernehmen AFD-Narrative: Ampel sei gescheitert ( ist willentlich gecrasht worden. Scholz gescheitert ( weil die FDP unannehmbare Forderungen stellte), bzgl Migration werden gelingende Projekte nicht erwähnt, die Ehrenämtler nicht mehr eingeladen. Als Scholz wie auch einmal R.Lang die Ukrainehilfe mit Schulden versus Sozialabbau u Rentenkürzung verband, also die volle Wahrheit sagte ( denn Sozialabbau ist der Plan von CDUFDP ) fielen fast alle über ihn her. Das war ein Tabubruch. Übrigens ist die Versorgung von Flüchtlingen ein riesiges Keynes-Programm ( ähnlich den Rüstungsausgaben). Nur staatlich gefördert. Refinanziert durch die mittlerweile arbeitenden Flüchtlinge von 2015, die viel für unser BSP tun.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947850)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Dr.med. Heinz de Moll antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947734" data-cid="4947734"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku139740/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 133.77); color:oklch(35% 0.15 133.77);"> <span>DN</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku139740/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Desdur Nahe</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947734'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947734)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T09:28:13+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">09:28 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Was würde denn passieren, wenn sich einer der Bosse öffentlich hinter die AfD stellen würde? Auch Manager hängen an ihren Jobs. Von daher sollte man solche Umfragen mit Vorsicht genießen.<br></br><br></br> Auch in den USA haben sich diverse Chefs hinter Trump gestellt, als sie sich davon einen Vorteil versprochen haben. Selten vorher.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947734)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Desdur Nahe antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947610" data-cid="4947610"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 278.16); color:oklch(35% 0.15 278.16);"> <span>D</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">dtx</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947610'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947610)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T01:35:05+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">01:35 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Ja, aber ... Wie war das? Wenn es Deutschland schlecht geht, ...</p> <p>Die Fanbase der AfD hat sich in ihrer Blase eingerichtet und interessiert sich nicht mehr fürs Gemeinwohl (schließlich sind nicht satte 20% zu dumm, das zu begreifen). Und die Vorstandsetage käme, das sieht man an AW, mit den Auswirkungen der selbst herbeigesehnten Katastrophen ganz gut zu Recht.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947610)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">dtx antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947555" data-cid="4947555"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku114454/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 305.39); color:oklch(35% 0.15 305.39);"> <span>KT</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku114454/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Kommen Tier</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947555'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947555)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-18T21:55:49+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">18.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">21:55 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Laut "Handelsblatt" fordert die Wirtschaftsweise Monika Schnitzer 1,5 Millionen Zuwanderer im Jahr, um den Fachkräftemangel zu decken. Das wären also 15 Millionen Menschen in 10 Jahren.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947555)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Kommen Tier antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947984" data-cid="4947984"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku52720/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 141.05); color:oklch(35% 0.15 141.05);"> <span>F</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku52720/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">FancyBeard</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947984'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947984)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T13:08:55+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">13:08 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Kommen Tier:</span> <p>Man muss einfach nur schauen, wie viele Zuwanderer die Schweiz hat und das ungefähr auf Deutschland hochrechnen.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947984)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">FancyBeard antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947877" data-cid="4947877"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku86524/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 283.00); color:oklch(35% 0.15 283.00);"> <span>CM</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku86524/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Chris McZott</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947877'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947877)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T11:16:40+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">11:16 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Kommen Tier:</span> <p>Oder alternativ: jährliche Abwanderung von 1,5 Mio Rentnern.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947877)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Chris McZott antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947759" data-cid="4947759"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku4343/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/4343.webp"> </img></figure> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku4343/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Kaboom</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947759'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947759)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T09:41:09+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">09:41 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Kommen Tier:</span> <p>Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, beträgt die Zahl der demnächst in Rente gehenden Babyboomer 11 Mio ...</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947759)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Kaboom antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947744" data-cid="4947744"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku139740/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 133.77); color:oklch(35% 0.15 133.77);"> <span>DN</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku139740/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Desdur Nahe</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947744'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947744)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T09:33:19+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">09:33 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Kommen Tier:</span> <p>Menschen ins Land zu bekommen ist nicht das Problem. Fachkräfte ins Land zu bekommen, das ist die Herausforderung. Und dann auch dafür zu sorgen, dass diese Fachkräfte einen positiven Beitrag zur Volkswirtschaft beitragen. Ansonsten hat man keine Ent-, sondern eine Belastung der Systeme.<br></br><br></br> Da stehen "wir" momentan schlecht da, wenn man sich z. B. mal die Arbeitsquoten der UkrainerInnen bei uns und im europäischen Vergleich anschaut.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947744)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Desdur Nahe antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947477" data-cid="4947477"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 33.11); color:oklch(35% 0.15 33.11);"> <span>A</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Aurego</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947477'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947477)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-18T19:43:55+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">18.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">19:43 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Viele Menschen bringen es nicht fertig, in komplexen Zusammenhängen zu denken, sondern reagieren mit Angst und Flucht auf Dinge, die sie nicht verstehen und daher für gefährlich halten. Einmal sind das Impfungen, das nächste Mal Windräder, dann Wärmepumpen. Bei Putin entwickeln sie ein Stockholm-Syndrom und da sie sich mit Kernkraftwerken nicht auskennen, finden sie sie inzwischen wieder gut, jedenfalls besser als CO2. In ihrer Angst versammeln sie sich gerne hinter Führern, denen sie glauben, dass sich fast jedes Problem auf einfache Weise lösen lässt (obwohl die persönliche Lebenserfahrung dagegen spricht). Dasselbe tun auch die Lemminge in Walt Disneys berühmtem Film "White Wilderness" ...</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947477)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Aurego antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947905" data-cid="4947905"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 278.16); color:oklch(35% 0.15 278.16);"> <span>D</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">dtx</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947905'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947905)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T11:51:42+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">11:51 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Aurego:</span> <p>Die persönliche Lebenserfahrung spräche gegen einfache Gründe, bliebe sie erstens überhaupt und zweitens korrekt in Erinnerung. Aber dann müßte man den Widerspruch auch bemerken. Rachen ist ja auch so ungefährlich, weil Opa, der als Buchhalter so einen gefährlichen Posten hatte, daß er längst hätte sterben können, trotzdem seine Frühpensionierung erlebte ...</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947905)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">dtx antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947922" data-cid="4947922"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 278.16); color:oklch(35% 0.15 278.16);"> <span>D</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">dtx</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947922'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947922)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T12:04:39+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">12:04 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@dtx:</span> <p>Sorry, "Rauchen"</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947922)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">dtx antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </ul> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947527" data-cid="4947527"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/190877.webp"> </img></figure> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">DemokratischeZelleEins</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947527'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947527)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-18T20:53:06+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">18.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">20:53 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Aurego:</span> <p>Die Lemminge in Walt Disneys berühmtem Film "White Wilderness" wurde mittels einer Drehscheibe über die "Klippe geworfen". Alles eine Frage der richtigen Filmtechnik .</p> <p>Herr Armin Nassehi hat wahrscheinlich auch mehr Walt Disney Filme gesehen, als Niklas Luhmann kritisch gelesen und glaubt daher, so ein Verweis auf nichtverstandene Komplexität wäre immer eine gutes Argument.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947527)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">DemokratischeZelleEins antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947784" data-cid="4947784"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 33.11); color:oklch(35% 0.15 33.11);"> <span>A</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Aurego</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947784'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947784)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T09:58:17+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">09:58 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@DemokratischeZelleEins:</span> <p>Sie hätten das nicht erklären müssen. Was die nicht verstandene Komplexität angeht: Es werden halt nicht aus allen gute Schachspieler oder Klaviervirtuosen. Es ist also zu vermuten, dass nicht alle gleich gut mit Komplexität umgehen können. Da die Verteilung wie beim Zipfschen Gesetz aussehen dürfte, reden wir da wieder über das obere Dezil und die anderen 90%.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947784)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Aurego antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947919" data-cid="4947919"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 278.16); color:oklch(35% 0.15 278.16);"> <span>D</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">dtx</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947919'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947919)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T12:03:21+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">12:03 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@Aurego:</span> <p>Mit dem oberen Dezil allein wird man aber keine Wahl gewinnen. Die Dinge weiter laufen zu lassen, wäre also keine Lösung. Anstatt des oder neben dem Zipfschen Gesetz(es) könnte auch die Gaußsche Glockenkurve Anschauung bieten, anhand der man (zumindest früher) die Plausibilität von Klausurergebnissen beurteilte. Dazu paßt ganz gut der Eindruck, daß derzeit mehr als die Hälfte der Wählerschaft bereit sei, gegen ihre Interessen zu stimmen.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947919)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">dtx antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4948044" data-cid="4948044"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 33.11); color:oklch(35% 0.15 33.11);"> <span>A</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku78174/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Aurego</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4948044'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4948044)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T14:00:30+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">14:00 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@dtx:</span> <p>Wahlen gewinnt man, indem man den 90%, die nicht zum obersten Dezil gehören, erfolgreich einredet, es sei für sie von Vorteil, für etwas zu stimmen, was ihnen selbst nach gewissenhafter Analyse kaum Vorteile bringen kann, z. B. indem man Angst vor anderen Lösungsvorschlägen schürt und statistisch irrelevante Extrembeispiele zur Abschreckung verwendet.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4948044)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Aurego antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947389" data-cid="4947389"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku144774/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 325.88); color:oklch(35% 0.15 325.88);"> <span>KS</span> </div> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku144774/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Karl Schmidt</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947389'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947389)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-18T18:33:54+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">18.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">18:33 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Die AFD ist wie eine Kompassnadel, die ständig nach Süden zeigt. Bei praktisch jedem Thema in die falsche Richtung zu zeigen, muss man als Partei erst einmal schaffen.</p> <p>Einfach mal in den Wahlomat schauen. Technologie-, Menschen- und Wirtschaftsfeindlich beschreibt das Wahlprogramm vollständig.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947389)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Karl Schmidt antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium " id="bb_message_4947320" data-cid="4947320"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/190877.webp"> </img></figure> </a> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">DemokratischeZelleEins</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947320'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947320)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-18T17:10:18+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">18.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">17:10 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <p>Was sind denn moderne Firmen? Moderne Profitjäger?</p> <p>Ich habe gehört, die Volkswagen AG plant in Texas (USA) den Bau einer neuen Autofabrik und will dort das überarbeitete Topmodell ihrer Marke Bentley als reinen Verbrenner unter der Modellbezeichnung 'Gulf America' bauen. Es sollen dort nur 100%-prozentige Amerikaner beschäftigt werden.</p> <p>Das ist doch reine Satire ... unvorstellbar</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947320)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">DemokratischeZelleEins antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947611" data-cid="4947611"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 278.16); color:oklch(35% 0.15 278.16);"> <span>D</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku101686/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">dtx</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947611'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947611)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T01:38:58+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">01:38 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@DemokratischeZelleEins:</span> <p>Volkswagen hat anscheinend keinen Bock darauf, sich die Arbeiter vom Montageband weg verhaften und abschieben zu lassen. Auch hierzulande legt Wert auf legale Beschäftigung, wer keine Probleme mit dem Zoll und der Staatsanwaltschaft braucht.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947611)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">dtx antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947654" data-cid="4947654"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/190877.webp"> </img></figure> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">DemokratischeZelleEins</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947654'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947654)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T07:29:09+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">07:29 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@dtx:</span> <p>Glauben Sie an Satire?<br></br><br></br> Dann glauben Sie vielleicht auch an den "ehrlichen Geschäftsmann", der alles nur macht, weil er den Menschen und dem Land Gutes tun will.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947654)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">DemokratischeZelleEins antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947901" data-cid="4947901"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku105316/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/105316.webp"> </img></figure> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku105316/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Alex_der_Wunderer</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947901'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947901)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T11:47:14+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">11:47 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@DemokratischeZelleEins:</span> <p>Sie meinen jetze wohl, so wie Politkermenschen auch ? <br></br><br></br> 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947901)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Alex_der_Wunderer antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4947813" data-cid="4947813"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku144765/"> <div class="image is-flex is-rounded author-profile is-align-items-center is-justify-content-center typo-short-text-bold" style="background-color:oklch(97% 0.05 125.56); color:oklch(35% 0.15 125.56);"> <span>E</span> </div> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku144765/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">Erfahrungssammler</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; right: 0; min-width: max-content; z-index: 2;" class="typo-short-text column p-small-medium has-background-background-forms is-overlay"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-center is-align-items-center"> <button @click.one="const cleanUrl = location.href.replace(location.hash,''); marOtaz_de.copyToClipboard(cleanUrl+ '#bb_message_4947813'); $($el).text('im Clipboard'); $($el).addClass('cursor-initial')" class="typo-link link is-clickable"> Link kopieren </button> <button class="mgl-small typo-link link report is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="report(4947813)"> melden </button> </div></aside> </div> </div> <time datetime="2025-02-19T10:23:26+01:00" class="has-text-text-icon-grey typo-meta-data"> <span class="date">19.02.2025</span>, <span class="mgb-small time">10:23 Uhr</span> </time> <div class="typo-short-text text pt-small message-text-container hyphens break-word"> <span class="has-text-text-icon-grey">@DemokratischeZelleEins:</span> <p>Es gibt durchaus ehrliche Geschäftsleute, die anderen auch etwas übrig lassen wollen/können.<br></br><br></br> Die werden allerdings meist als naiv oder blöd angesehen und dargestellt, im besten Fall von den Geiern und Hyänen ausgenutzt und aufgefressen.</p> </div> <ul class="toolbar is-flex is-align-items-center reply-container"> <li class="reply is-flex is-align-items-center" x-on:click="reply($event, 4947813)"> <button class="typo-link icon-link-wrapper mgt-small is-flex is-align-items-center" title="auf diesen Beitrag antworten …"> <span class="icon small reply_redhov "></span> <span class="link icon-link-text">Erfahrungssammler antworten</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <ul class="thread"> <li class="member column pt-0-tablet is-12-tablet mobile-order-1 comment mgt-medium mgl-xlarge " id="bb_message_4948209" data-cid="4948209"> <div class="columns is-mobile"> <div class="column is-1-tablet is-2-mobile is-offset-2 is-flex is-align-items-center mobile-order-1"> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <figure class="is-flex-shrink-0"> <img class="image is-rounded author-profile is-large" src="https://taz.de/kommune/files/images/profile/192x192/190877.webp"> </img></figure> </a> <div class="column thread dotted mgl-small mgt-small"></div> </div> <div class="column is-7-tablet is-10-mobile mgl-large-negative pl-large mobile-order-2"> <div class="is-flex is-justify-content-space-between is-align-items-center"> <div> <a href="/!ku190877/"> <span class="author typo-short-text-bold">DemokratischeZelleEins</span> </a> </div> <div class="mobile-order-3" x-cloak="" style="position: relative;" x-data="{ showFurtherOptionsDropdown: false }"> <span class="is-clickable is-1 icon small further_options_redhov" @click="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = !showFurtherOptionsDropdown"> </span> <aside x-show="showFurtherOptionsDropdown" @click.away="showFurtherOptionsDropdown = false" style="position: absolute; 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