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No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:Gong_players" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:Gong_players"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:Gong_players"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921205900-Category:Gong_players"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Gong_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Gong players (page does not exist)">Category:Gong players</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Gong_players&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Gong_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Gong players (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Gong_players&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Gong_players">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Gong_players&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AGong+players">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Way too specific of a category; one who's members all fit <a href="/wiki/Category:Percussionists" title="Category:Percussionists">Category:Percussionists</a> already. No one in the world classifies themselves as a "gong player". <a href="/wiki/User:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User:Why? I Ask">Why? I Ask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User talk:Why? I Ask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921205900-Category:Gong_players" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921205900-Category:Gong_players"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921205900-Category:Gong_players"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400-Category:Gong_players"></span>Delete</b>. Some e.g. <a href="/wiki/Airto_Moreira#Instruments" title="Airto Moreira">Airto Moreira#Instruments</a> list various percussion instruments that they have played, but they do not need to be categorised by each of them – indeed, that would be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCAT">WP:OCAT</a>. Most do not mention gongs in the article, so playing gongs is not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEFINING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEFINING">WP:DEFINING</a>. All have better categories as percussionists, so no merge is needed. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Triangle_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Triangle players (page does not exist)">Category:Triangle players</a> must be similarly undeserving of a category; <a href="/wiki/User:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User:Why? I Ask">nominator</a>, do you want to add it to this nomination? – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400-Category:Gong_players" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400-Category:Gong_players"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400-Category:Gong_players"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220923000100-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"></span>I have removed that listing from Moreira. If you're a percussionist, it's expected that you will play common percussion, so the list means nothing. (All other pages should follow suit if they have that). For whatever reason, I wouldn't doubt someone would want to keep the triangle category, so I'll make that a separate discussion. There <i>are</i> some categories that could potentially be added though, if you look at the subcats for <a href="/wiki/Category:Percussionists" title="Category:Percussionists">Category:Percussionists</a> (e.g., glockenspiel players, güira players, güiro players, tubular bells players). I do think a case could be made for keeping castanets and tambourine, and maracas, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User:Why? I Ask">Why? I Ask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User talk:Why? I Ask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Why?_I_Ask-20220923000100-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220923000100-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220923000100-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Opus88888-20220923175200-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"></span>I have never seen a güirero playing tambora or congas. --<a href="/wiki/User:Opus88888" title="User:Opus88888">Opus88888</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Opus88888" title="User talk:Opus88888">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Opus88888-20220923175200-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 23 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Opus88888-20220923175200-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Opus88888-20220923175200-Fayenatic_london-20220922213400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220924133400-Opus88888-20220923175200"></span>Half the people in the category are known best for playing congas. <a href="/wiki/User:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User:Why? I Ask">Why? I Ask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User talk:Why? I Ask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Why?_I_Ask-20220924133400-Opus88888-20220923175200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220924133400-Opus88888-20220923175200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220924133400-Opus88888-20220923175200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFBk1wF5MI0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFBk1wF5MI0</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:End_of_World_Music" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:End_of_World_Music-September_21-20220921201900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:End_of_World_Music-September_21-20220921201900"></span>Category:End of World Music<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:End_of_World_Music-September_21-20220921201900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Category:End of World Music"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193300-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pichpich-20220921201900-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:End_of_World_Music&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:End of World Music (page does not exist)">Category:End of World Music</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:End_of_World_Music&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:End_of_World_Music&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:End of World Music (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:End_of_World_Music&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:End_of_World_Music">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:End_of_World_Music&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AEnd+of+World+Music">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> "End of World Music" is not a widely recognized music genre and the term does not appear in the articles for the artists in this category. The common element of these artists is that most (not all, see <a href="/wiki/Raven_Chacon" title="Raven Chacon">Raven Chacon</a>) are signed to the <a href="/wiki/Stone_Tapes" title="Stone Tapes">Stone Tapes</a> label or its parent label <a href="/wiki/Joyful_Noise_Recordings" title="Joyful Noise Recordings">Joyful Noise Recordings</a>. Alternatives to deletion would be to create <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Stone_Tapes_artists&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Stone Tapes artists (page does not exist)">Category:Stone Tapes artists</a> and selectively add artists there or delete and use only <a href="/wiki/Category:Joyful_Noise_Recordings_artists" title="Category:Joyful Noise Recordings artists">Category:Joyful Noise Recordings artists</a> where it's relevant. <a href="/wiki/User:Pichpich" title="User:Pichpich">Pichpich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pichpich" title="User talk:Pichpich">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Pichpich-20220921201900-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pichpich-20220921201900-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pichpich-20220921201900-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921235600-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>Support Deleting</b>: Looking up "End of World Music" on Google only brought up this category. I'm fairly certain it's not a suitable category. <a href="/wiki/User:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User:Why? I Ask">Why? I Ask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Why%3F_I_Ask" title="User talk:Why? I Ask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921235600-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921235600-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Why?_I_Ask-20220921235600-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Storchy-20220922074400-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>Support deletion</b>, I can only find a few mentions online of "end of <a href="/wiki/World_music" title="World music">world music</a>"; this categorization might refer to that, or to "<a href="/wiki/End_of_world" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="End of world">end of world</a> music". Either way, none of the articles mentions it, and per nomination it's not a widely recognised musical genre. <a href="/wiki/User:Storchy" title="User:Storchy">Storchy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Storchy" title="User talk:Storchy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Storchy-20220922074400-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Storchy-20220922074400-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Storchy-20220922074400-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20220923024000-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>Delete</b> Category with unclear scope and no suitable merge target. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-LaundryPizza03-20220923024000-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20220923024000-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20220923024000-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span>Delete</b> not a verifiable thing. <a href="/wiki/User:Jontesta" title="User:Jontesta">Jontesta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jontesta" title="User talk:Jontesta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:End_of_World_Music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:End_of_World_Music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:End_of_World_Music"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Madura" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Madura-September_21-20220913145400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Madura-September_21-20220913145400"></span>Category:Madura<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Madura-September_21-20220913145400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Category:Madura"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193700-Category:Madura"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge/rename</b>. Merge first two as per nom, and rename <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam_Madura_Utama&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam Madura Utama (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam Madura Utama</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193700-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193700-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929193700-Category:Madura"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-P199-20220913145400-Category:Madura"></span>Propose merging and redirecting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:Madura" title="Category:Madura">Category:Madura</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Madura" title="Category talk:Madura">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Madura">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AMadura">logs</a>)</span></span> to <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:Madura_Island" title="Category:Madura Island">Category:Madura Island</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Madura_Island" title="Category talk:Madura Island">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Madura_Island">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AMadura+Island">logs</a>)</span></span></li> <li><b>Propose merging and redirecting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_Madura" title="Category:People from Madura">Category:People from Madura</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:People_from_Madura" title="Category talk:People from Madura">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:People_from_Madura">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3APeople+from+Madura">logs</a>)</span></span> to <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_Madura_Island" title="Category:People from Madura Island">Category:People from Madura Island</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura_Island&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:People_from_Madura_Island" title="Category talk:People from Madura Island">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura_Island&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:People_from_Madura_Island">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_from_Madura_Island&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3APeople+from+Madura+Island">logs</a>)</span></span></li> <li><b>Propose merging and deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Persepam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Persepam (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Persepam">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3APersepam">logs</a>)</span></span> to <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:Madura_Island" title="Category:Madura Island">Category:Madura Island</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Madura_Island" title="Category talk:Madura Island">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Madura_Island">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Madura_Island&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AMadura+Island">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> What is this category for??? Madura is an island, not any other administrative division (not a province or otherwise). We already have <a href="/wiki/Category:Madura_Island" title="Category:Madura Island">Category:Madura Island</a>, so this category is not needed as far as I can tell and can be redirected, just like at <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Madura">Commons</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:P199" title="User:P199"><span style="color: #199199;">P 1 9 9</span></a></b> <big><a href="/wiki/User_talk:P199" title="User talk:P199">✉</a></big> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-P199-20220913145400-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 13 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-P199-20220913145400-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-P199-20220913145400-Category:Madura"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220913154300-Category:Madura"></span>Merge and redirect</b>. Good catch! This is categorised in Provinces of Indonesia, but is not one. I have added its sub-cats to the nomination. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220913154300-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 13 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220913154300-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220913154300-Category:Madura"></span></li> <li><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182100-Category:Madura"></span>Note: This discussion has been included in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football#Nominations_for_deletion_and_page_moves" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Football">WikiProject Football</a>'s list of association football-related page discussions. <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-GiantSnowman-20220914182100-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182100-Category:Madura"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182100-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182300-Category:Madura"></span>Oppose merging of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam</a></b> and instead rename to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam_Madura_Utama&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam Madura Utama (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam Madura Utama</a> to match the parent article name at <a href="/wiki/Persepam_Madura_Utama" title="Persepam Madura Utama">Persepam Madura Utama</a> per CFDS C2D. I have expanded the category and it is worth keeping. <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-GiantSnowman-20220914182300-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182300-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20220914182300-Category:Madura"></span> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000-GiantSnowman-20220914182300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">GiantSnowman</a>:</span> it currently contains a team, their logo file, a stadium, and a sub-cat for players of a different team (which has its own category, <a href="/wiki/Category:Madura_United_F.C." title="Category:Madura United F.C.">Madura United F.C.</a>). If the sub-cat was for players of this team I would have ignored it, but I don't see that a category is justified for 2 articles and 1 image file. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000-GiantSnowman-20220914182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000-GiantSnowman-20220914182300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000-GiantSnowman-20220914182300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20220922070300-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000"></span>The correct player category looks to be <a href="/wiki/Category:Persepam_Pamekasan_players" title="Category:Persepam Pamekasan players">Category:Persepam Pamekasan players</a> (as <a href="/wiki/Persepam_Pamekasan" class="mw-redirect" title="Persepam Pamekasan">Persepam Pamekasan</a> redirects to <a href="/wiki/Persepam_Madura_Utama" title="Persepam Madura Utama">Persepam Madura Utama</a>); that category should be CFDSed and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam_Pamekasan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam Pamekasan (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam Pamekasan</a> should be merged with this? <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-GiantSnowman-20220922070300-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20220922070300-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20220922070300-Fayenatic_london-20220921131000"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterkingiron-20220916120400-Category:Madura"></span>Comment</b> -- I note that <a href="/wiki/Madura" title="Madura">Madura</a> is a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Madura_Island" class="mw-redirect" title="Madura Island">Madura Island</a>, but that article frequently refers to it merely as Madura. Is there a case for renaming the article and reverse merging? <a href="/wiki/User:Peterkingiron" title="User:Peterkingiron">Peterkingiron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peterkingiron" title="User talk:Peterkingiron">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Peterkingiron-20220916120400-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterkingiron-20220916120400-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterkingiron-20220916120400-Category:Madura"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-P199-20220916151100-Peterkingiron-20220916120400"></span>Not opposed to reverse merging, if that makes the most sense. But if there is no strong reason for it, then it will be better that the categories match the article naming conventions. -- <b><a href="/wiki/User:P199" title="User:P199"><span style="color: #199199;">P 1 9 9</span></a></b> <big><a href="/wiki/User_talk:P199" title="User talk:P199">✉</a></big> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-P199-20220916151100-Peterkingiron-20220916120400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-P199-20220916151100-Peterkingiron-20220916120400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-P199-20220916151100-Peterkingiron-20220916120400"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500-P199-20220916151100"></span>Madura does have other meanings – see <a href="/wiki/Madura_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Madura (disambiguation)">Madura (disambiguation)</a>. It is best to disambiguate the category. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500-P199-20220916151100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500-P199-20220916151100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500-P199-20220916151100"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-P199-20220921202200-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500"></span>Good point. Agreed. -- <b><a href="/wiki/User:P199" title="User:P199"><span style="color: #199199;">P 1 9 9</span></a></b> <big><a href="/wiki/User_talk:P199" title="User talk:P199">✉</a></big> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-P199-20220921202200-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-P199-20220921202200-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-P199-20220921202200-Fayenatic_london-20220921130500"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></dd> <dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220921173300-Category:Madura"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220921173300-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220921173300-Category:Madura"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220921173300-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220923134900-Category:Madura"></span>Now that <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">User:GiantSnowman</a> has found and added the correct players category, I'm happy to go along with renaming <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Persepam_Madura_Utama&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Persepam Madura Utama (page does not exist)">Category:Persepam Madura Utama</a> instead of upmerging, and have speedily nominated its related cats. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220923134900-Category:Madura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220923134900-Category:Madura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220923134900-Category:Madura"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Deaths_from_dementia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Deaths_from_dementia-September_21"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Deaths_from_dementia-September_21"></span>Category:Deaths from dementia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Deaths_from_dementia-September_21"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Category:Deaths from dementia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Relisted</b>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_29#Category:Deaths_from_dementia" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29#Category:Deaths from dementia</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Anti-immigration_activism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Anti-immigration_activism-September_21"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Anti-immigration_activism-September_21"></span>Category:Anti-immigration activism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Anti-immigration_activism-September_21"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Category:Anti-immigration activism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Relisted</b>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_29#Category:Anti-immigration_activism" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29#Category:Anti-immigration activism</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War-September_21-20220921120000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War-September_21-20220921120000"></span>Category:Former countries of the Cold War<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War-September_21-20220921120000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Category:Former countries of the Cold War"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194100-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194100-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194100-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194100-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120000-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Former countries of the Cold War (page does not exist)">Category:Former countries of the Cold War</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Former countries of the Cold War (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AFormer+countries+of+the+Cold+War">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> <b>delete</b>, trivial intersection between a period in history and the fact that these countries no longer exist. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Marcocapelle-20220921120000-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120000-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120000-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span>Delete</b>: countries don't belong to wars, so this doesn't make sense. <a href="/wiki/User:Jontesta" title="User:Jontesta">Jontesta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jontesta" title="User talk:Jontesta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jontesta-20220927150500-Category:Former_countries_of_the_Cold_War"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Seljuk_Empire_stubs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seljuk_Empire_stubs-September_21-20220921111800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seljuk_Empire_stubs-September_21-20220921111800"></span>Seljuk Empire stubs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seljuk_Empire_stubs-September_21-20220921111800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Seljuk Empire stubs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge</b>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921111800-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:People_of_the_Seljuq_Empire_stubs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:People of the Seljuq Empire stubs (page does not exist)">Category:People of the Seljuq Empire stubs</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Asian_people_stubs" title="Category:Asian people stubs">Category:Asian people stubs</a></li> <li><b>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Seljuk_Empire_stubs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Seljuk Empire stubs (page does not exist)">Category:Seljuk Empire stubs</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Turkish_history_stubs" title="Category:Turkish history stubs">Category:Turkish history stubs</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Only contains two articles. If not merged, the first one should be renamed to Seljuk people stubs (or perhaps Seljuk Empire people stubs), following the pattern for former countries in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:European_people_stubs&from=%23">[1]</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Fayenatic_london-20220921111800-Seljuk_Empire_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921111800-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20220921111800-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span>Support merge</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Marcocapelle-20220921120200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20220921120200-Seljuk_Empire_stubs"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Ethnic_Uzbek_people" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Ethnic_Uzbek_people-September_21"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Ethnic_Uzbek_people-September_21"></span>Category:Ethnic Uzbek people<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Ethnic_Uzbek_people-September_21"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Category:Ethnic Uzbek people"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Relisted</b>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_29#Category:Ethnic_Uzbek_people" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 29#Category:Ethnic Uzbek people</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews-September_21-20220921021900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews-September_21-20220921021900"></span>Category:Medieval Ottoman Jews<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews-September_21-20220921021900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Category:Medieval Ottoman Jews"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194300-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge</b>. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194300-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194300-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20220929194300-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921021900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Medieval Ottoman Jews (page does not exist)">Category:Medieval Ottoman Jews</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jews_of_the_Ottoman_Empire&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jews of the Ottoman Empire (page does not exist)">Category:Jews of the Ottoman Empire</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Jews_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world" title="Category:Jews in the medieval Islamic world">Category:Jews in the medieval Islamic world</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> <b>upmerge</b>, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Note: the first target has been nominated for renaming to <a href="/wiki/Category:Jews_from_the_Ottoman_Empire" title="Category:Jews from the Ottoman Empire">Category:Jews from the Ottoman Empire</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Marcocapelle-20220921021900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20220921021900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20220921021900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurel_Lodged-20220921112900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span>Support</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Laurel_Lodged" title="User:Laurel Lodged">Laurel Lodged</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laurel_Lodged" title="User talk:Laurel Lodged">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_21#c-Laurel_Lodged-20220921112900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurel_Lodged-20220921112900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurel_Lodged-20220921112900-Category:Medieval_Ottoman_Jews"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). 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