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href="/videos/68180?in=0:00" > Anthropic’s CEO comes out as a China hawk </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=6:14" > Why so many China hawks in the AI community? </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=22:25" > Gaming out the AGI takeoff timeline </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=30:07" > Last year’s OpenAI coup: What did Ilya see? </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=36:19" > Underappreciated dangers of the China chip war </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=53:17" > Are US tech leaders seeing China’s perspective clearly? </a> </li> <li> <a href="/videos/68180?in=1:05:08" > Heading to Overtime </a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </div>  </div>     <div class="feature-list"> <div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68161?in=1:15&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-11-14-wright-davison-bessner.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68161?in=1:15&out=">Will Trump Go Full-On Authoritarian?</a></h1><h2>Robert Wright and American Prestige Podcast hosts Derek Davison and Daniel Bessner discuss.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68161?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68161?in=1:15&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68153?in=4:39&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-11-12-wright-hammond.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68153?in=4:39&out=">Is Trump a Good Fit for the AI Era?</a></h1><h2>Samuel Hammond of the Foundation for American Innovation and Robert Wright debate the issue, and also discuss the coming impact of AI, the authoritarian risks of regulating (and not regulating), whether Elon can be trusted on AI, and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68153?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68153?in=4:39&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68142?in=0:18&out="><img class="play-icon" 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Who’s to blame? What will a second Trump term prioritize? What did Kamala do wrong (and right)? and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68142?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68142?in=0:18&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68120?in=0:34&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-10-30-wright-kaus.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68120?in=0:34&out=">2024 Pre-Election Extravaganza</a></h1><h2>Robert Wright and Mickey Kaus cover the waterfront ahead of next week’s Trump vs Kamala showdown.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68120?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68120?in=0:34&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68094?in=2:38&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-10-22-wright-bloom.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68094?in=2:38&out=">Elon, Trump, and Other Enigmas</a></h1><h2>Robert Wright and psychologist Paul Bloom discuss the odd 2024 betting markets, Trump’s latest locker-room talk, Elon’s empathy deficit, Coates’s controversial cognitive-empathizing, and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68094?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68094?in=2:38&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68054?in=03:12&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-10-09-wright-kampeas.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68054?in=03:12&out=">October 7th: One Year Later</a></h1><h2>Robert Wright and journalist Ron Kampeas discuss the impact of October 7 and its aftermath on American Jews, Israel’s place in US politics, Israel’s military strategy, the prospects for lasting peace, and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68054?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68054?in=03:12&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/dmz"><h3 class="program-slug">The DMZ</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68034?in=0:00&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-10-02-scher-lewis.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68034?in=0:00&out=">Who Won the VEEP Debate?</a></h1><h2>On this week’s DMZ, Matt K. Lewis and Bill Scher weigh-in on Tuesday’s vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and J.D. Vance.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68034?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68034?in=0:00&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><div class="program-slug-plus-screenshot"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68024?in=1:20&out="><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-09-11-wright-narayanan.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div></div><div class="feature-head-plus-deck"><h1><a href="/videos/68024?in=1:20&out=">AI Snake Oil</a></h1><h2>Robert Wright and Arvind Narayanan, co-author of the new book AI Snake Oil—and co-host of the same-named podcast—discuss generative AI’s impact, AI uses and misuses, whether progress should (or can) be slowed, and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68024?in=00:01">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68024?in=1:20&out=">Play this clip</a></div></div></div> </div>  </div>  <div id="rightcolumn"> <div class="feature-list"> <div class="feature landscape"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><h1><a href="/videos/68173?in=3:18&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','title');">Will Trump release the JFK files?</a></h1><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68173?in=3:18&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','screenshot');"><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-11-12-wright-morley.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div><h2>Robert Wright and journalist Jefferson Morley, publisher of the JFK Facts newsletter, discuss.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68173?in=00:01" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','play_entire_video');">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68173?in=3:18&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','play_this_clip');">Play this clip</a></div></div><div class="feature landscape"><a href="/programs/wrightshow"><h3 class="program-slug">Nonzero (The Wright Show)</h3></a><h1><a href="/videos/68169?in=2:19&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','title');">Elon vs Bluesky, Jake Paul vs Tyson, AI vs World Peace</a></h1><div class="play-icon-group"><a href="/videos/68169?in=2:19&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','screenshot');"><img class="play-icon" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/graphics.nonzero/play-icon.png" alt="play" /><img class="landscape" src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/screenshots.bloggingheads.tv/bhtv-2024-11-19-wright-bloom.jpg" alt="video screenshot" /></a></div><h2>Robert Wright and psychologist Paul Bloom discuss the Bluesky boom, the Jake Paul-Tyson “fight”, AI’s militaristic turn, and more.</h2><div class="button-line"><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68169?in=00:01" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','play_entire_video');">Play entire video</a><a class="play-button" href="/videos/68169?in=2:19&out=" onclick="ga('send', 'event', 'feature', 'feature_click','play_this_clip');">Play this clip</a></div></div><div id="facebook"> <div id="fb-root"></div> <div class="fb-page" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/bloggingheads/" data-tabs="timeline" data-width="300" data-height="70" data-small-header="true" data-adapt-container-width="true" data-hide-cover="false" data-show-facepile="false"> <div class="fb-xfbml-parse-ignore"> <blockquote cite="https://www.facebook.com/bloggingheads/"> <a 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