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<img alt='Colin McLaughlin' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d75f91373aab47ca37f2abe37f5ee806?s=96&d=identicon&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d75f91373aab47ca37f2abe37f5ee806?s=192&d=identicon&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-96 photo th-rounded-full sm:th-block th-hidden' height='96' width='96' decoding='async'/><span class="byline th-flex">by <a class="th-uppercase" href="https://standsinthefire.com/author/standsinfire/" rel="author">Colin McLaughlin</a></span><span class="posted-on th-block"><time class="entry-date published" datetime="2016-05-19T20:43:10-07:00">May 19, 2016</time><time class="updated" datetime="2016-06-05T20:48:20-07:00">June 5, 2016</time></span> <div class="comments-link th-flex th-items-center sm:th-mt-0 th-mt-auto"> <svg class="svg-icon th-fill-current" width="16" height="16" aria-hidden="true" role="img" focusable="false" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="0 0 24 24"><path d="M12 3c5.514 0 10 3.592 10 8.007 0 4.917-5.144 7.961-9.91 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They reached 7th level at the end of the session. The players were there to attempt to steal back the soul of one of the group that was in the possession of Prince Levistus, ruler of the 5th layer of the Nine Hells. Levistus had been traded the soul by a coven of sea hags, who had acquired the soul after a player died in battle. When the player was restored to life, there were clues that things were not as they seemed. He spoke in a strange language, with two different voices speaking at once, and his breath smelled of sulfur. When he slept, sometimes Levistus acted through him, though the player didn’t yet know it was him, and one a small portal to Hell opened, and the players fought against lesser devils. The players ultimately tried to have him exorcised. This failed, and they learned it was indeed Levistus, and how he acquired the soul.</p> <p>Levistus wanted the players to entreat with one of the other antagonistic forces in the campaign, a djinn named Nahas Al-Aizdira, commonly referred to as the Brazier of Contempt, on his behalf. The players already dislike this djinn, and her servants. The players also learned the hags received the Silver Horn of Thyrana in exchange for the soul. Further, they discovered Thyrana was a servant of Lurue the Unicorn Queen, and the hags served Sarula Iliene.</p> <p>The players traveled to nearest large kahin idol, a giant, but now crumbling, jade statue once dedicated to Ha’Rabar. Their goal was to hopefully run into other kahin on pilgrimage, and consult them on planar travel and learn if they know anything happening on a planar being level, as kahin attain mastery over an element and can plane shift when they become Aged Masters. They encounter an already known Aged Master, who so happened to have mastery over water. He lays out a few further options, such as retrieving an object desired by Sarula Iliene, and granting it to her. As a fey, Sarula would be obligated to give them a boon, and treat them kindly for not belaboring the soul issue. Another option was to seek aid from a genie who would be opposed to the Brazier of Contempt, as any alliance would likely be troublesome. The players already have a relation with a dao, as a result of previous events, and know this dao opposed Nahas Al-Aizdira.</p> <p>Instead of any of this, the players refused to negotiate with anyone, or ask for assistance in any way, and asked the kahin to plane shift them to Stygia, where the Aged Master had previously been. They wanted to sneak into Stygia, and try and steal the player’s soul back. The general consensus was the soul was a lesser prize, really, and it wouldn’t be under heavy guard. So, off they went, to the teleportation circle in one of the levels of Levistus’ ice fortress.</p> <p>This is fine, as I support player action. I really don’t care what they ended up doing. I set up criteria for success and failure, just as I would anything else. The two-session adventure did not feature any combat, and was an exercise in utility spells for the purpose of exploration and avoidance, as the players sneaked around that particular level of the ice fortress. It was blind exploration, it’s not like they were given a map, but the player without a soul was able to function as a compass, to give them an idea of what direction they needed to head.</p> <p>I ran the encounter as a skill challenge, more than anything else. The players needed to reach the goal before achieving X failures. Hitting that number of failures wasn’t an automatic failure. It was just a signal that things started to get back. Creatures became aware of them, alarms sounds, they were being chased, and so on. The players used a great combination of <em>invisibility</em> and <em>pass without trace</em>. They did really well, and didn’t get greedy. Unfortunately, a few things broke bad for them. A few failed checks in a row, coupled with running into a dead end, and having to backtrack through an area they had already failed in a few times.</p> <p>The players who were invisible remained invis. One player used the <a href="https://standsinthefire.com/2015/10/19/the-libyans-run-marty/">declare trait</a> system, and picked up “takes one for the family” as a bond (negative). This got rid of one terrible ice devil. The barbarian, the character with the captured soul, decides to intimidate another ice devil, stating he is the master’s pet and shouldn’t be harmed. The other visible player chimed in with an affirmative. So the players were marched to a projection of Levistus, and ending up wheeling and dealing. The end result was the players having to both deal with the Brazier of Contempt, and go pick up an item on his behalf, and return it to him. He gave the players a time deadline to follow, and sent them on their way. Of course, first he gave the barbarian a magical sword to prove he was the emissary of Levistus. I’m sure it’s fine.</p> <p>Back home, they immediately started discussing how much they hate that guy, and how they are going to betray him at the first opportunity and so on. They had a great time with it, which is cool. More player investment is never bad.</p> <p>However, two things popped up during the course of all this. One is a player believing I was railroading them into this conclusion, when I certainly do not feel this was the case. On the backend, they could have totally succeeded. The projection of Levistus didn’t show up until the alarm was triggered and the players captured and escorted. He wasn’t there from the beginning. I would have been fine had they succeeded. It doesn’t matter to me. I’ve heard a few players express their belief that I, the GM, want them to go to certain places and do certain things, when that couldn’t be further from the case. I just provide what is going on in the world, how people are reacting, and then present several options to proceed. I don’t care what the players do. I will support whatever their choice is, and run what I believe should happen.</p> <p>I believe this is largely a result of the players in question not understanding the nature of a more sandbox game. The game has lots of things that are occurring, but the story is of the PCs trying to restore honor to their family name, and regain their lost status. As that story is directly tied to the players, however they want to achieve it is cool with me.</p> <p>The second point is one more indicative of a wider shift in the gaming community. There is a trend for players to want their players to never need assistance, nor have any modicum of control wrested from them. It’s a little disappointing. Higher powers play a huge part in the worlds of D&D, as is facing powerful foes beyond reach. As players get higher level, they are able to face these challenges without assistance, it’s not like they couldn’t cast <em>plane shift</em>, for example. In a setting filled with genies and other cosmic level beings, dealing and interacting with them is part for the course.</p> <p>Yet players don’t want to do this.</p> <p>Instead, they want to never have to ask for assistance. Negotiating or dealing is a sign of weakness that must be only used if everything else fails. I am not talking about only the players in this game. I’ve been co-running a LARP for five years. It’s the same thing there. It’s a growing trend of rigid self-indulgence. Why wouldn’t you want situations where you are able to discuss things with villains, but are not in positions where you can do violence just then? The villain is similarly bound, of course. The idea is to create a greater sense of ownership, as the players can then engage on a personal level.</p> <p>Unfortunately, people seem to want to do this less and less. They want to only be able to combat the villain with no repercussions or hindrance. It’s largely disappointing.</p> <p>The players very much enjoyed the two-part session, and seem excited to move forward. I am, too. 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Self sufficiency is the core protective agenda of a player character: don’t open yourself to any more problems than you have to.</p> <p>I think it’s also exacerbated by modules trending heavily toward encounters that are always exactly hard enough for a party of standard size and expected level. Particularly when those encounters always fight to the death. It can be easy to metagame into the idea that wherever you go, there will be a threat that’s just on the edge of whatever capabilities you happen to be bringing, and expect things to auto-scale if you bring help.</p> <p>I think you basically have to train your players to get used to the idea that A) most enemies are fairly rational and don’t want to die and B) problems may not be automatically sized for whatever the PCs have, so getting help and skipping encounters with socials is a big benefit. And you may have to retrain each and ever subsequent group, unless there’s significant enough overlap in your former players that they can explain to the newbies how you roll.</p> </div> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="https://standsinthefire.com/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/?replytocom=388#respond" data-commentid="388" data-postid="3345" data-belowelement="div-comment-388" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to samhaine" aria-label="Reply to samhaine">Reply</a></div> </article> </li> <li id="comment-389" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <article id="div-comment-389" class="comment-body"> <footer class="comment-meta"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d75f91373aab47ca37f2abe37f5ee806?s=136&d=identicon&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d75f91373aab47ca37f2abe37f5ee806?s=272&d=identicon&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-136 photo' height='136' width='136' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="http://iamthenameofyourcoverband.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">standsinfire</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div> <div class="comment-metadata"> <a href="https://standsinthefire.com/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/#comment-389"><time datetime="2016-05-19T21:46:13-07:00">May 19, 2016 at 9:46 pm</time></a> </div> </footer> <div class="comment-content"> <p>I try and make a show of the world being what the world is. While in Hell, they consistently ran into Ice Devils and Bone Devils, with wandering Erinyes on patrol. That’s CR 14, 9, and 12. They were 6th at the time. For the most part, it’s one or two people that are hesitant to adopt, and the other 2/3 of the group are on board. It’s not insurmountable, but there’s a curve to overcome with one player, specifically. I think the other late adopter is now on board. </p> <p>The second issue is a bit thornier. Players refuse to engage at the basic level. They don’t want to know motivations, or what they are doing, or anything. I say that generally, but I see it more and more. There is a growing sentiment that things should be tailored to them, and them alone, so they shouldn’t need to investigate and engage. Running counter to this, even if you stick to your guns on the point, which I have done, just results in continued negative attitudes. It’s tough.</p> </div> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="https://standsinthefire.com/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/?replytocom=389#respond" data-commentid="389" data-postid="3345" data-belowelement="div-comment-389" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to standsinfire" aria-label="Reply to standsinfire">Reply</a></div> </article> </li> <li id="comment-868" class="comment even thread-even depth-1"> <article id="div-comment-868" class="comment-body"> <footer class="comment-meta"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/22dfaee0df4a744d3158074af8a29275?s=136&d=identicon&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/22dfaee0df4a744d3158074af8a29275?s=272&d=identicon&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-136 photo' height='136' width='136' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="http://gravatar.com/mickoneverything" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">mickoneverything</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div> <div class="comment-metadata"> <a href="https://standsinthefire.com/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/#comment-868"><time datetime="2021-10-19T10:49:23-07:00">October 19, 2021 at 10:49 am</time></a> </div> </footer> <div class="comment-content"> <p>I’m a few years late to this one it looks like, I just ran a session last night where my PCs met not a projection but actually Levistus, they got dragged a deep layer of the hells by a PC betrayer serving Mephistopheles’ cult. I appreciate you talking about this, I dragged them to hell to take away the sandbox world they were in because they couldn’t make any decisions. I am in fact railroading them now, but since I can do much more elaborate set pieces this way they are loving it.</p> <p>Anyway, great find from my perspective, thanks.</p> </div> <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="https://standsinthefire.com/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/?replytocom=868#respond" data-commentid="868" data-postid="3345" data-belowelement="div-comment-868" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to mickoneverything" aria-label="Reply to mickoneverything">Reply</a></div> </article> </li> </ol> <div id="respond" class="comment-respond"> <h3 id="reply-title" class="comment-reply-title">Leave a Reply<small><a rel="nofollow" id="cancel-comment-reply-link" href="/2016/05/19/that-time-my-players-raided-hell-instead-of-using-their-words/#respond" style="display:none;">Cancel reply</a></small></h3> <form id="commentform" class="comment-form"> <iframe title="Comment Form" 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