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class="entry-editModal-headline">タイトル<span class="entry-editModal-guideline"><a href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/help/entry/guideline_title">ガイドライン</a></span></h4> <input type="text" name="title" value="具体と抽象を行き来するということ|yonekubo" class="entry-editModal-textInput"> </div> <div class="entry-editModal-btnArea"> <button type="button" class="entry-editModal-cancel js-entry-edit-modal-cancel-button is-hidden">キャンセル</button> <button type="submit" class="entry-editModal-decide js-entry-edit-modal-decision-button is-hidden">保存する</button> </div> </form> </div> <div class="entry-editModal-owner js-entry-edit-modal-owner is-hidden"> <p class="entry-editModal-owner-description">このページのオーナーなので以下のアクションを実行できます</p> <div class="entry-editModal-renew js-entry-edit-modal-refresh is-hidden"> <span class="entry-editModal-renew-help">タイトル、本文などの情報を<br>再取得することができます</span> <button type="button" class="entry-editModal-renew-btn">情報を更新する</button> </div> <div class="entry-editModal-visibility 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js-twitter-share-modal-auto-redirect"> <input class="entry-twitterModal-checkbox-btn" type="checkbox" id="twitter-redirect-switch" data-gtm-click-label="share-checkbox-twitter"> <label class="entry-twitterModal-checkbox-label" for="twitter-redirect-switch">次回からTwitterへ自動リダイレクト</label> </div> <p class="entry-twitterModal-note is-hidden js-twitter-share-modal-auto-redirect-note">ONにすると、次回以降このダイアログを飛ばしてTwitterに遷移します</p> <button type="button" class="entry-twitterModal-close js-modal-close-button"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/entry/overlay-close-gray.svg" alt=""></button> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-myBookmark js-entry-myBookmark" data-entry-canonical-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15" data-default-comment="" data-bookmark-source=""> <div class="entry-user-and-comment"> <span class="entry-info-users"><a href="" data-gtm-label="entry-info-users"><span>251</span> users</a><span class="text">がブックマーク</span></span> <span class="entry-info-comment"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/entry/ic-comment.svg" alt="コメント"><span>22</span></span> </div> <div class="following-bookmarks-container js-following-bookmarks-container" data-entry-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <ul class="following-bookmarks js-following-bookmarks"></ul> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-following-bookmark"> <li> <a href="{{ anchor_path }}" class="following-bookmark-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-followingBookmarks"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" class="following-bookmark-icon"> </a> <span class="following-bookmark-popup"> <span class="following-bookmark-username">{{ user_name }}</span><span class="following-bookmark-timestamp">{{ created }}</span> <span class="following-bookmark-text"> {{ #comment }}<span class="following-bookmark-comment">{{ comment }}</span>{{ /comment }} <ul class="following-bookmark-tags">{{ #tags }}<li>{{ label }}</li>{{ /tags }}</ul> </span> </span> </li> </script> </div> <script type="text/x-template" id="entry-myBookmark-template"> <a href="/{{ user_name }}/" class="entry-myBookmark-icon"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" title="{{ user_name }}"> </a> <span class="entry-myBookmark-username"><a href="{{ anchor_path }}">{{ user_name }}</a></span> <span class="js-private-icon status {{ #is_public }}is-hidden{{ /is_public }}"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/userpage/icon-private.svg" alt="非公開" width="10px" height="10px"></span> <span class="entry-myBookmark-text">{{{ comment_expanded }}}</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> {{ #tags }} <li><a href="/{{ user_name }}/{{ tag_escaped }}/">{{ tag }}</a></li> {{ /tags }} </ul> <div class="entry-myBookmark-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a href="{{ anchor_path }}">{{ timestamp }}</a></span> </p> <ul class="entry-myBookmark-menu js-bookmark-menu js-intent-share-bookmark" data-target-url="{{ url }}"> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-share"> <div class="tooltip-hint is-invisible js-intent-share-tooltip"> <p class="tooltip-hint-text">こちらからブックマークを共有できます</p> <button class="tooltip-hint-close js-tooltip-close"><span>close</span></button> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-myBookmark-item-inner"> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-intent-share-button" tabindex="0" role="button"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">共有</span> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-myBookmark-menu-list js-intent-share-container"> <ul class="is-disabled" tabindex="-1"> <li> <a href="#" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-myBookmark-menu-item entry-myBookmark-menu-item--twitter js-intent-share-twitter-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-gtm-click-label="share-intent-twitter">Twitterへ共有</a> </li> <li> <a href="#" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-myBookmark-menu-item entry-myBookmark-menu-item--mastodon js-intent-share-mastodon-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-gtm-click-label="share-intent-mastodon">Mastodonへ共有</a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-edit"> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-inplace-edit"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">ブックマークを編集</span> </button> </li> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-delete"> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-inplace-delete" data-confirm-message="ブックマークを削除しますか?"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">ブックマークを削除</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </script> <div class="entry-myBookmark-container js-entry-myBookmark-container"></div> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest is-hidden js-entry-myBookmark-guest"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fyonekubo%252Fn%252Fn4fe61173fe15%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-user-icon&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-icon js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-user-icon"> <img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/profile.gif" alt="ゲスト" title="ゲスト"> </a> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest-main"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fyonekubo%252Fn%252Fn4fe61173fe15%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-form&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-form js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-form">コメントするにはログインが必要です</a> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fyonekubo%252Fn%252Fn4fe61173fe15%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-button&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-button js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-button"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></a> </div> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest-register"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fyonekubo%252Fn%252Fn4fe61173fe15%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-button-cta-bookmark&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-button js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-click-label="entry-info-register-button-cta-bookmark" rel="noreferrer"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></a> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft js-user-bookmark-edit editing-form js-editing-form is-hidden entry-myBookmark-form"> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-icon js-profile-image-container"> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-user-profile-image"> <a href="/{{ user_name }}"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" title="{{ user_name }}" class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-icon-image"> </a> </script> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-main"> <form method="post" action="/my/bookmark" class="js-add-form "> <input type="hidden" name="url" value="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15" /> <input type="hidden" name="from" value="entry" /> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment js-annotation-component"> <textarea class="bookmarkadd-comment-form is-comment-form-shrink" name="annotation" placeholder="コメントを入力してください (省略可)" aria-label="コメントを入力 (省略可)" ></textarea> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment-footer"> <div class="bookmarkadd-community-guideline"> <p><a href="/guide/guideline" target="_blank">ガイドライン</a>をご確認の上、良識あるコメントにご協力ください</p> </div> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-count"> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-count">0</span> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-slash">/</span> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-limit">0</span> </span> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-options"> <div class="bookmarkadd-tags js-bookmarkadd-tags"> <input type="text" class="bookmarkadd-tags-textbox js-bookmarkadd-tags-textbox" placeholder="タグを入力して追加" aria-label="タグを入力して追加(省略可)"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-tags-btn"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-popup">入力したタグを追加</span> <button class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-image"></button> </span> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-share"> <div class="bookmarkadd-share-block js-bookmarkadd-share-block"> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label js-bookmarkadd-share-label-twitter"> <input type="checkbox" name="post_twitter" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-twitter"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text twitter"> twitterにシェア </span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" name="bookmark_stock" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-readlater" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-readlater"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text readlater">あとで読む</span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-private" name="privacy" value="1"> <span class="bookmarkadd-private"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text private">非公開</span> </span> </label> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-cancel-and-submit-buttons js-buttons-container"> <button class="bookmarkadd-cancel-btn js-bookmarkadd-cancel-btn is-hidden" type="button"> キャンセル </button> <input class="bookmarkadd-submit-btn js-bookmarkadd-submit-btn" type="submit" value="ブックマーク"> </div> </div> </div> <p class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-externalHelp-general-myBookmarkPrivate" > <span>現在プライベートモードです<span> <a href="/-/my/config/profile" class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp-link">設定を変更する</a> </p> </form> <div class="js-bookmarkadd-tagList is-hidden"> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-title"><span>おすすめタグ<span><a href="/help/entry/tag" target="_blank">タグについて</a></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-contents"> </ul> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title often js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-title"><span>よく使うタグ</span><button type="button" class="js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-button">すべて表示</button></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-contents"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-form-button js-entry-myBookmark-form-button is-hidden"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></button> <div class="bookmark-modal js-bookmark-modal js-editing-form is-hidden" aria-label="閉じる"> <div class="bookmark-modal-inner js-bookmark-modal-inner"> <div class="bookmark-modal-info"> <h2 class="bookmark-modal-title"> 具体と抽象を行き来するということ|yonekubo </h2> <div class="entry-info-meta"> <span class="entry-users">251 users</span> <span class="entry-info-domain"> <img src="https://cdn-ak2.favicon.st-hatena.com/64?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fyonekubo%2Fn%2Fn4fe61173fe15" alt="" width="16px" height="16px" class="bookmark-modal-favicon"><a href="/site/note.com/yonekubo">note.com/yonekubo</a> </span> </div> </div> <form method="post" action="/my/bookmark" class="js-add-form bookmark-modal-form"> <input type="hidden" name="url" value="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15" /> <input type="hidden" name="from" value="entry" /> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment js-annotation-component"> <textarea class="bookmarkadd-comment-form is-comment-form-shrink" name="annotation" placeholder="コメントを入力してください (省略可)" aria-label="コメントを入力 (省略可)" ></textarea> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment-footer"> <div class="bookmarkadd-community-guideline"> <p><a href="/guide/guideline" target="_blank">ガイドライン</a>をご確認の上、良識あるコメントにご協力ください</p> </div> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-count"> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-count">0</span> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-slash">/</span> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-limit">0</span> </span> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-options"> <div class="bookmarkadd-tags js-bookmarkadd-tags"> <input type="text" class="bookmarkadd-tags-textbox js-bookmarkadd-tags-textbox" placeholder="タグを入力して追加" aria-label="タグを入力して追加(省略可)"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-tags-btn"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-popup">入力したタグを追加</span> <button class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-image"></button> </span> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-share"> <div class="bookmarkadd-share-block js-bookmarkadd-share-block"> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label js-bookmarkadd-share-label-twitter"> <input type="checkbox" name="post_twitter" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-twitter"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text twitter"> twitterにシェア </span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" name="bookmark_stock" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-readlater" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-readlater"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text readlater">あとで読む</span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-private" name="privacy" value="1"> <span class="bookmarkadd-private"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text private">非公開</span> </span> </label> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-cancel-and-submit-buttons js-buttons-container"> <input class="bookmarkadd-submit-btn js-bookmarkadd-submit-btn" type="submit" value="ブックマーク"> </div> </div> </div> <p class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-externalHelp-general-myBookmarkPrivate" > <span>現在プライベートモードです<span> <a href="/-/my/config/profile" class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp-link">設定を変更する</a> </p> </form> <div class="js-bookmarkadd-tagList is-hidden"> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-title"><span>おすすめタグ<span><a href="/help/entry/tag" target="_blank">タグについて</a></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-contents"> </ul> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title often js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-title"><span>よく使うタグ</span><button type="button" class="js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-button">すべて表示</button></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-contents"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bookmark-guest-register-modal js-bookmark-guest-register-modal is-hidden" aria-label="閉じる"> <div class="bookmark-guest-register-modal-inner js-modal-inner"> <button type="button" class="bookmark-guest-register-modal-close js-modal-close-button"> <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="5748.793 -620.207 21.414 21.414"> <defs><style>.cls-1 { fill: none; stroke-width: 2px; }</style></defs> <g> <title>閉じる</title> <desc>モーダルを閉じます</desc> <path id="line1" d="M5769.5-619.5l-20 20"/><path id="line2" d="M5769.5-599.5l-20-20"/> </g> </svg> </button> <img src="/images/v4/public/bookmark-logo.png" class="entry-modal-guest-register-logo" alt="はてなブックマーク"> <h2 class="entry-modal-guest-register-title">はてなブックマークで<br>関心をシェアしよう</h2> <p class="entry-modal-guest-register-description">みんなの興味と感想が集まることで<br>新しい発見や、深堀りがもっと楽しく</p> <a href="#" data-gtm-click-label="entry-modal-guest-register-button" class="entry-modal-guest-register-button js-register-link" rel="noreferrer">ユーザー登録</a> <p class="entry-modal-guest-login">アカウントをお持ちの方は<a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/login?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fentry%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fyonekubo%252Fn%252Fn4fe61173fe15" data-gtm-click-label="entry-modal-guest-login" rel="noreferrer">ログインページ</a>へ</p> </div> </div> <div class="entry-ad-pc-text"> <div id="entry-text-ad"></div> </div> <div class="entry-ad-sp-banner"> <div id="entry-ad-sp-upon-comments"></div> </div> <div class="entry-comments"> <h3 class="entry-comment-title">記事へのコメント<span>22</span>件</h3> <div class="js-bookmarks-sort-tabs-group entry-comment" data-popular-count="1"> <div class="entry-comment-tabs js-bookmarks-sort-tabs"> <ul class="entry-comment-tab"> <li role="button" class="js-bookmarks-sort-tab is-active" data-sort="popular">注目コメント</li> <li role="button" class="js-bookmarks-sort-tab" data-sort="recent">新着コメント</li> </ul> </div> <div class="bookmarks-sort-panels js-bookmarks-sort-panels"> <script type="text/x-template" id="autoloader-bookmark-item"> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="{{user_name}}" data-url="{{bookmarked_url}}"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="{{user_page_path}}" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-{{ sort }}-icon"><img src="{{profile_image_url}}"/ alt="{{user_name}}" title="{{user_name}}"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span 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<span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="{{location_id}}" data-user-name="{{user_name}}" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button{{#enable_button}} is-enabled{{/enable_button}}" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </script> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-short-url-click"> {{#tweet_url}} <a href="{{tweet_url}}" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-gtm-click-label="reaction-twitter-clicks"><span>{{count}} clicks</span></a> {{/tweet_url}} {{^tweet_url}} <span>{{count}} clicks</span> {{/tweet_url}} </script> <div class="is-active bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmarks-sort-panel" data-sort="popular"> <div class="js-bookmarks js-bookmarks-popular"> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kobito19" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kobito19/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kobito19/profile.png"/ alt="kobito19" title="kobito19"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kobito19/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">kobito19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">ユーザーと開発者の会話の例で思い出したけど、抽象度上げて質問されるのめっちゃ嫌う人いるよなあ。この増田とか典型的だけど <a href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/entry/s/anond.hatelabo.jp/20241123134225" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">https://b.hatena.ne.jp/entry/s/anond.hatelabo.jp/20241123134225</a></span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kobito19/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/kobito19" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="kobito19" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class=" bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmark-autoloader-recent" data-sort="recent" data-autoload-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15" data-next-cursor=""> <div class="js-bookmarks js-bookmarks-recent"> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="travel_jarna" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/travel_jarna/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/travel_jarna/profile.png"/ alt="travel_jarna" title="travel_jarna"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/travel_jarna/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">travel_jarna</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">書かれていることは当たり前のことであり、焦点は抽象化が苦手な人をどう成長させるかとなる。しかしながら幼少期に巻き戻すしかないとなりがち。抽象化の話は、実践的な意味に乏しい。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/travel_jarna/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/travel_jarna" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="travel_jarna" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="yojik" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/yojik/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/yojik/profile.png"/ alt="yojik" title="yojik"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/yojik/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">yojik</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">本題とは少しズレるけど、例にあげられてるドメインイベントは多分ほとんどの状況ではオーバースペックに感じる。抽象化度合いをあげすぎて宇宙飛行士になってしまう(by Joel Spolsky)のを止めるセンスも重要。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/yojik/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/yojik" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="yojik" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="tk_musik" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/tk_musik/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/tk_musik/profile.png"/ alt="tk_musik" title="tk_musik"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/tk_musik/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">tk_musik</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">仕事仲間とクライアントじゃぜんぜん違うからね。仕事仲間ならまず受け取って、ある程度コンテキストから自分なりに30分くらいで整理して仮説立てて進め方問題ないか確認に行く、くらいはしてほしいよね。お客様か</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/tk_musik/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/tk_musik" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="tk_musik" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="iphone" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/iphone/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/iphone/profile.png"/ alt="iphone" title="iphone"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/iphone/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">iphone</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">"犬はあなたとあなたのきょうだいを「家族」としてカテゴライズして認識することはありませんね。" まで読んだ。例としては穴が大きすぎるだろ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/iphone/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/iphone" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="iphone" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="gunjoutarou" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/gunjoutarou/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/gunjoutarou/profile.png"/ alt="gunjoutarou" title="gunjoutarou"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/gunjoutarou/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">gunjoutarou</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">要件定義で必要な力よな</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/gunjoutarou/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/gunjoutarou" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="gunjoutarou" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="akanama" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/akanama/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/akanama/profile.png"/ alt="akanama" title="akanama"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/akanama/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">akanama</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">ブコメの「抽象度上げて質問されるのめっちゃ嫌う人」、いるいる。あれは自分が抽象化して考えないので、抽象度の高い質問の意味がわからないんだと思う。「それ関係ある?なんで今そんなこと聞くの?」と思ってる。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/akanama/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/akanama" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="akanama" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="qawsklp" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/qawsklp/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/qawsklp/profile.png"/ alt="qawsklp" title="qawsklp"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/qawsklp/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">qawsklp</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">年収が、まで読んだわ..</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/qawsklp/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/qawsklp" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="qawsklp" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="el-bronco" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/el-bronco/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/el-bronco/profile.png"/ alt="el-bronco" title="el-bronco"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/el-bronco/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">el-bronco</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">現場では具体的作業をどんどん進めないと、現実が回らない。抽象的なところまでイチイチ深められても困らないかな</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/el-bronco/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/el-bronco" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="el-bronco" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="tanahata" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/tanahata/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/tanahata/profile.png"/ alt="tanahata" title="tanahata"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/tanahata/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">tanahata</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">吉原治良や白髪一雄の話ではなかった。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/tanahata/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/tanahata" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="tanahata" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="dekasasaki" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/dekasasaki/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/dekasasaki/profile.png"/ alt="dekasasaki" title="dekasasaki"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/dekasasaki/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">dekasasaki</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">ウミガメのスープというゲームがあるけど問題解決パターンの思考回路に近しいと感じてる。チームのメンバーと飲み会でやったら盛り上がった。出題者大変だけどねw 見えていない事実を発見すると視座が上がる感覚。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/dekasasaki/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/dekasasaki" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="dekasasaki" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="spark7" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/spark7/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/spark7/profile.png"/ alt="spark7" title="spark7"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/spark7/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">spark7</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">質問に質問で返す前にまず自分の考えを言え、という例の増田が理解できない層がまだいるのね。回答側も思考の過程を述べず結論だけ質問し返すのは、依頼側と同じコミュ不全な行為と気づかないのかしら。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/spark7/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/spark7" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="spark7" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="szsszs" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/szsszs/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/szsszs/profile.png"/ alt="szsszs" title="szsszs"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/szsszs/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">szsszs</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">具体「空を自由に飛びたいな」問「なぜ飛びたい?」抽象「太陽に近づきたいから」解決策「蜜蝋の翼」</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/szsszs/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/szsszs" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="szsszs" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kazoo_keeper2" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kazoo_keeper2/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kazoo_keeper2/profile.png"/ alt="kazoo_keeper2" title="kazoo_keeper2"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kazoo_keeper2/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">kazoo_keeper2</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">これは先日ホットエントリになった「頭のいい新入社員にイライラしてる増田」への嫌味なのか?</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kazoo_keeper2/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/kazoo_keeper2" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div 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class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="manimoto" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/manimoto/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/manimoto/profile.png"/ alt="manimoto" title="manimoto"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/manimoto/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">manimoto</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">抽象「空を自由に飛びたいな」具体「ハイ!タケコプター」</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/manimoto/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/manimoto" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="manimoto" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="bopperjp" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/bopperjp/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/bopperjp/profile.png"/ alt="bopperjp" title="bopperjp"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/bopperjp/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">bopperjp</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">ゴールと責任を設定されずに、作業内容だけを指示されてるとだんだんそれに慣れれて「言われたことを言われたままやるのが仕事」みたいな思考になるってだけじゃね。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/bopperjp/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/bopperjp" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="bopperjp" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="toraba" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/toraba/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/toraba/profile.png"/ alt="toraba" title="toraba"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/toraba/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">toraba</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">「具体だけで考えるのでも抽象だけで考えるのでもなく、それらを行ったり来たりする、すなわち臨機応変に切り替えて思考することが大事」岩尾俊兵『具体に引きずられる人達』<a href="https://youtu.be/SHYV_ywGSxA?t=880" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">https://youtu.be/SHYV_ywGSxA?t=880</a></span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/toraba/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/toraba" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="toraba" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="morita_non" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/morita_non/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/morita_non/profile.png"/ alt="morita_non" title="morita_non"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/morita_non/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">morita_non</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">掛算順序問題かと思ったら違った。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/morita_non/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/morita_non" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="morita_non" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="clairvy" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/clairvy/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/clairvy/profile.png"/ alt="clairvy" title="clairvy"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/clairvy/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">clairvy</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">年収は関係ないんじゃないか?</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/clairvy/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/clairvy" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762463802636750016" data-user-name="clairvy" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kobito19" data-url="https://note.com/yonekubo/n/n4fe61173fe15"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kobito19/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kobito19/profile.png"/ alt="kobito19" title="kobito19"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kobito19/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">kobito19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">ユーザーと開発者の会話の例で思い出したけど、抽象度上げて質問されるのめっちゃ嫌う人いるよなあ。この増田とか典型的だけど <a href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/entry/s/anond.hatelabo.jp/20241123134225" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">https://b.hatena.ne.jp/entry/s/anond.hatelabo.jp/20241123134225</a></span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kobito19/20241125#bookmark-4762463802636750016">2024/11/25</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762463802636750016/comment/kobito19" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container 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