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Han kritiserade även Joe Biden som gav grönt ljus till Ukraina att använda de avancerade amerikanska vapnen offensivt mot mål på ryskt territorium. </p><p>Däremot kom inget fuck you till Putin och Ryssland som i förra veckan avfyrade den nya medeldistansroboten Oresjnik mot Dnipro i Ukraina. Putin kallade attacken för en testskjutning, men det var lika mycket en maktdemonstration mot omvärlden. Den nya robottypen sägs nå alla europeiska huvudstäder och har kapacitet att bära kärnvapenstridsspetsar. Ett liknande vapen har aldrig tidigare använts i krig och i sitt tv-tal gjorde Vladimir Putin en stor poäng av att inget land har ett luftvärn som klarar att slå ut dem. </p><p>Putin har sedan dess hotat att använda robotarna på nytt mot mål i Ukraina. </p><p>– Självklart kommer vi att svara på de pågående attackerna mot ryskt territorium med långdistansvapen från väst, som redan sagts, inklusive genom att eventuellt fortsätta testa Oresjnik under stridsförhållanden.</p><p>I Ukraina har Joe Rogans ord väckt avsky. När tidningen Kyiv Independent intervjuar människor på huvudstadens gator uttrycker många både ilska och vanmakt. </p><p>– Som att blir spottad på, säger en kvinna. </p><p>– Helt ärligt, dra åt helvete, kom hit och upplev det vi upplever, säger en annan. </p><h2>Inbjudan</h2><p>Nu skriver Ukrainas tidigare utrikesminister Dmytro Kuleba ett svar till podcastvärden och Trump-vännen Rogan. </p><figure class="rich-image rich-text__block"><picture class="ratio-16x9"><img loading="lazy" srcSet="https://static.bonniernews.se/images/5e/cf/5ecfbd4c7611498f994379cfd59fa9de/16x9/640@60.jpg 640w,https://static.bonniernews.se/images/5e/cf/5ecfbd4c7611498f994379cfd59fa9de/16x9/1280@40.jpg 1280w" sizes="(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) 1280px,(min-resolution: 192dpi) 1280px,640px" alt></picture><figcaption><div class="rich-image__description">Diplomaten och politikern Kuleba är en av dem som reagerat mot Trumpvännen Rogans ord.</div> <div class="rich-image__credit">Foto: LEV RADIN/PACIFIC PRESS/SHUTTERS / SHUTTERSTOCK EDITORIAL/IBL</div></figcaption></figure><p>”Kriget som Ukraina utkämpar handlar inte bara om Nato eller territoriella konflikter – det handlar om överlevnad. 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