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class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Q122782472"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Q122782472</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Q13179595"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Q13179595</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Controversial Alexei Navalny (Q155979) edits</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Szlachta family (Q115867377)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Requests_for_permissions_ab."><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Requests for permissions ab.</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#ruwiki"><span 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class="toctext">Incorrect labels at Madagascar (Q1019)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Q60764836"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Q60764836</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Grand_Theft_Auto_VI"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Grand Theft Auto VI</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Diljá"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Diljá</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Mul_labels"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Mul labels</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Chiman_Maru"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Chiman Maru</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Autopatrolled"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Autopatrolled</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Request for Confirmed User of Xikmoryt</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q122782472" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q122782472-20240108161800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q122782472-20240108161800"></span><a href="/wiki/Q122782472" title="Q122782472">Q122782472</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q122782472-20240108161800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Q122782472"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daremize-20240108161800-Q122782472"></span>Hello, I just realized that the item (Q122782472) was deleted. I remember that i talked on providing more source but i got busy. </p><p>Could you check if any of these is a source? Some are in other language but they can be translated easily </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://trademarks.justia.com/979/34/lysee-97934804.html">https://trademarks.justia.com/979/34/lysee-97934804.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://uspto.report/company/Pimentel-Vicel">https://uspto.report/company/Pimentel-Vicel</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/pimentel-vicel-5526607/">https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/pimentel-vicel-5526607/</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.discountmags.com/au/magazine/latino-sleb-october-1-2023-digital/in-this-issue/33">https://www.discountmags.com/au/magazine/latino-sleb-october-1-2023-digital/in-this-issue/33</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://listindiario.com/entretenimiento/20231213/lysee-dominicana-da-voz-temas-series-netflix-hulu-disney-plus_786753.html">https://listindiario.com/entretenimiento/20231213/lysee-dominicana-da-voz-temas-series-netflix-hulu-disney-plus_786753.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://teleradioamerica.com/2023/12/dominicanas-dando-voz-al-tema-de-las-series-lysee-netflix-hulu-y-disney-plus/">https://teleradioamerica.com/2023/12/dominicanas-dando-voz-al-tema-de-las-series-lysee-netflix-hulu-y-disney-plus/</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Daremize&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Daremize (page does not exist)">Daremize</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daremize" title="User talk:Daremize"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Daremize-20240108161800-Q122782472" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daremize-20240108161800-Q122782472"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daremize-20240108161800-Q122782472"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daremize-20240113135500-Daremize-20240108161800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> i awaits your response <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Daremize&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Daremize (page does not exist)">Daremize</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daremize" title="User talk:Daremize"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Daremize-20240113135500-Daremize-20240108161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 13 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daremize-20240113135500-Daremize-20240108161800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daremize-20240113135500-Daremize-20240108161800"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240108161803/https://listindiario.com/entretenimiento/20231213/lysee-dominicana-da-voz-temas-series-netflix-hulu-disney-plus_786753.html"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240113234900-Daremize-20240113135500"></span>This</a> appears to be the only source I could recommend as a serious reference. What do you think, <a href="/wiki/User:Emu" title="User:Emu">Emu</a>?.. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240113234900-Daremize-20240113135500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240113234900-Daremize-20240113135500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240113234900-Daremize-20240113135500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emu-20240114122600-Wolverène-20240113234900"></span>Yeah, that’s probably enough. I restored the item. Thank you, Wolverène. --<a href="/wiki/User:Emu" title="User:Emu">Emu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emu" title="User talk:Emu"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Emu-20240114122600-Wolverène-20240113234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 14 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emu-20240114122600-Wolverène-20240113234900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emu-20240114122600-Wolverène-20240113234900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q13179595" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q13179595-20240209144200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q13179595-20240209144200"></span><a href="/wiki/Q13179595" title="Q13179595">Q13179595</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q13179595-20240209144200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Q13179595"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240209144200-Q13179595"></span>Просьба не путать сущности: мировое христианство и христианство на Земле (Q13179595). Первое - объёмнее, потому что на МКС есть православные иконы и периодически бывают православные, а МКС Землёй не является. Если нужен элемент Мировое христианство, то создайте. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240209144200-Q13179595" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240209144200-Q13179595"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240209144200-Q13179595"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240209195300-Ыфь77-20240209144200"></span>Противопоставление "христианства на Земле" и "христианства в мире" выглядит как минимум избыточным, поскольку за пределами нашей планеты не существует постоянных христианских поселений, церквей, не печатаются Библии, не существует регулирования вопросов религии. Даже если на МКС есть какие-то молельные комнаты (в теории - я не знаю), противопоставлять их целой Румынии или любой другой стране - это сильно. И православные космонавты на МКС являются землянами, и работают в интересах земных государств и организаций.<br/>"Христианство на Земле" звучит примерно так же, как "Масонство на Луне". Как известно, один из двух первых человек, ступавших на поверхность Луны, Базз Олдрин, является масоном, какие выводы мы могли бы из этого сделать?.. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240209195300-Ыфь77-20240209144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240209195300-Ыфь77-20240209144200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240209195300-Ыфь77-20240209144200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240209201400-Wolverène-20240209195300"></span>1) Не утрируйте, это не противопоставление, а несоответствие. Разделение Земли и Мира в культуре существует уже с прошлого века - сколько выполнено (именно выполнено!) научных работ в космосе и на других планетах, сколько фильмов, включая художественных (хотя бы впомните российскую "космоактрису"), сделано вне биосферы Земли. Вы думаете за время существования станции Мир и МКС там не выработалась своя билингва? Это несоответствие наследуют все части культуры, включая искусство, религию и прочее. Его же я закрепил в элементах Викиданных (Q13152690, Q13198592 и Q13150034). 2) Мне для работы в ВД нужны элементы-контейнеры именно для Земли, чтобы отделить географические составляющие классов от всех остальных. Пример: христианство у монголов (Q5110478) в мировое христианство входит, а в христианство на Земле в общем случае - уже нет, потому что негеографический элемент у географического класса быть не должен. --<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240209201400-Wolverène-20240209195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240209201400-Wolverène-20240209195300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240209201400-Wolverène-20240209195300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240209201800-Wolverène-20240209195300"></span>3) Сейчас на Луне масонов нет, а вот православные иконы на МКС летают. И внеземная наука и прикладное искусство есть и продолжают развиваться - та же телесъёмка поверхности Луны производится во время написания ответа. --<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240209201800-Wolverène-20240209195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240209201800-Wolverène-20240209195300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240209201800-Wolverène-20240209195300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240209202100-Ыфь77-20240209201800"></span>Спасибо за аргументы, склонен даже согласиться. Тогда, с вашего позволения, <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13179595&diff=2073010964&oldid=2072791018">внесу эти правки</a> для соблюдения единообразия. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240209202100-Ыфь77-20240209201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240209202100-Ыфь77-20240209201800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240209202100-Ыфь77-20240209201800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240209205100-Wolverène-20240209202100"></span>Если Вы посмотрите на языковой шаблон на моей ЛС, то увидите, что языковой континуум, окромя 3 языков, мне не доступен. Поэтому онлайн-переводчики - наше всё. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240209205100-Wolverène-20240209202100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240209205100-Wolverène-20240209202100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240209205100-Wolverène-20240209202100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240209205900-Ыфь77-20240209144200"></span>Обращаюсь к Вашему опыту. Мне нужен элемент-контейнер наподобие Q13179595 для культур по этнической группе, потому что там много элементов зависли без надклассов: а) нужен ли? б) как назвать? в) как перевести на мировые языки, чтобы не возникало путаницы, г) в каких отношениях он будет с Q13179595? --<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240209205900-Ыфь77-20240209144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240209205900-Ыфь77-20240209144200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240209205900-Ыфь77-20240209144200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240212182200-Ыфь77-20240209205900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77"><bdi>Ыфь77</bdi></a>: Извините, что так долго отвечал, то одно то другое... Правильно я понимаю, структуризацию вы предлагаете примерно по такой схеме: <i>культура России</i> → <i>культура России на Земле</i>/<i>в космосе</i> -> <i>культура России в мире</i>? Я всё же не уверен, что такое детальное структурирование данных не вызовет вопросов. Если не включать в критерий этнос/национальность, то получается всё достаточно оправданно. То есть <i>культура России</i> (<i>культура русских</i>) → <i>культура Европы</i>/<i>Азии</i> → <i>культура на Земле</i> → <i>культура мира</i>. Для детализации на этносы предлагаю начать обсуждение на форуме (русскоязычном или лучше общем) и прийти к какому-то консенсусу.</dd> <dd>По остальному. По-русски можно сказать <i>... на Земле</i> (противопоставляя <i>... в космосе</i>). По-английски лучше <i>of Earth</i>, потому что <i>on Earth</i> звучит несколько не конкретно, <i>on the Earth</i> предполагает чёткую привязку к поверхности Земли, <i>in the Earth</i> - как будто что-то происходит внутри планеты. С другими языками надо смотреть со словарём, в том же испанском <i><b>de</b> la Tierra</i> (тот же смысл). Q13179595 (христианство на Земле) будет определяться как аспект (instance of) сущности <i>религия на Земле</i>, она в свою очередь как аспект <i>культура на Земле</i>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240212182200-Ыфь77-20240209205900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240212182200-Ыфь77-20240209205900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240212182200-Ыфь77-20240209205900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240212182800-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span>Но с христианством лучше <i>Christianity on Earth</i>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240212182800-Wolverène-20240212182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240212182800-Wolverène-20240212182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240212182800-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240212183000-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span>Я абсолютно не это имел в виду, поэтому и отделил разделы. Есть русская культура (культура русских как народа / этнической группы, Q71194656), которая является подклассом славянской культуры (Q66049360), которая подклассом должна быть, но не может, потому что нет соответствующего элемента в ВД (или я его не нашёл). Это подвопрос (а). Остальные подвопросы вроде бы после объяснения должны быть понятны. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240212183000-Wolverène-20240212182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240212183000-Wolverène-20240212182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240212183000-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240212183900-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span>Ответвление в лингвистическую сторону. Я вообще ничего не противопоставлял, создавая Христианство на Земли, я лишь объединял все географические элементы в один подкласс, всё что не касается географии и поверхности Земли (в пределах биосферы), в такое объединение не входит. Насколько я понял из вашего объяснения <i>Christianity of the Earth</i> -- самый точный перевод этого значения на англицкий. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240212183900-Wolverène-20240212182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240212183900-Wolverène-20240212182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240212183900-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240212184100-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span>Ещё мелкая просьба: подавите вики-ссылку на элемент, через полмесяца она будет неактуально, а в ссылках элемента она будет болтаться всё его время существование. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240212184100-Wolverène-20240212182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240212184100-Wolverène-20240212182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240212184100-Wolverène-20240212182200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240212184700-Ыфь77-20240212184100"></span>Почему бы в Q66049360 не перенести <a href="/wiki/Q1377906" title="Q1377906">culture of Europe <small>(Q1377906)</small></a> и <a href="/wiki/Q149806" title="Q149806">culture of Asia <small>(Q149806)</small></a> из <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a> в <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a>? Тогда структура не будет поломана. Если остаётся <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a>, то тогда в <a href="/wiki/Q1377906" title="Q1377906">culture of Europe <small>(Q1377906)</small></a> и <a href="/wiki/Q149806" title="Q149806">culture of Asia <small>(Q149806)</small></a> по идее должно быть свойство <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> с длинным перечислением европейских/азиатских культур, чего делать не предполагается. А культура славян действительно подкласс культур соответствующих континентов. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240212184700-Ыфь77-20240212184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240212184700-Ыфь77-20240212184100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240212184700-Ыфь77-20240212184100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240212185600-Ыфь77-20240212184100"></span>... тогда в Q71194656 не будет стоять предупреждение "Slavic culture should have a statement subclass of." (или как там по-русски) --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240212185600-Ыфь77-20240212184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240212185600-Ыфь77-20240212184100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240212185600-Ыфь77-20240212184100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240212185900-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span>Здесь несколько аргументов против. 1) Возможно я искренне заблуждаюсь, но я привык воспринимать подкласс ВД как сущность математики (множество) и программирования (подкласс из ООП), т. е. <b>не должно быть</b> элементов подкласса, не входящих в любой уровень родительских надклассов. В категориях рувики это называется транзитивность, так вот отношение подкласс-надкласс должны быть абсолютно транзитивны. Вы предлагаете грубо её нарушить 2) Произойдёт множество включений негеографических элементов в географические элементы. Если один раз ещё такое можно простить, то множественное включение - очень плохо. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240212185900-Wolverène-20240212185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240212185900-Wolverène-20240212185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240212185900-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240212190100-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span>Отношение в ВД "является частью" я не отношу к абсолютно транзитивным. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240212190100-Wolverène-20240212185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240212190100-Wolverène-20240212185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240212190100-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infovarius-20240213142100-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span>По мне, "часть от" - тоже транзитивное свойство. Ещё мелкая просьба: ставьте ссылки на элементы - 1) удобно переходить из беседы, чтобы посмотреть, о чём речь; 2) удобно из элемента получать список всех дискуссий об этом элементе. А "замусоренность" "ссылок сюда" вообще не проблема - легко фильтруется, если надо. --<a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infovarius" title="User talk:Infovarius"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Infovarius-20240213142100-Wolverène-20240212185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infovarius-20240213142100-Wolverène-20240212185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infovarius-20240213142100-Wolverène-20240212185600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240213142600-Infovarius-20240213142100"></span>Тогда найдите свойство, которое опишет частично транзитивные отношения: часть А есть часть Б, но Б по объёму больше. Свойство "частично совпадает с" (P1382) не предлагать, потому что здесь должны быть вертикальные отношения, а не горизонтальные. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240213142600-Infovarius-20240213142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240213142600-Infovarius-20240213142100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240213142600-Infovarius-20240213142100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240213142900-Infovarius-20240213142100"></span>И просьба не отвлекать от основного вопроса раздела: нужен ли главный элемент-контейнер для культур по этнической группе, и если нужен, то какой он должен быть. У меня уже есть вариант, но хотелось бы увидеть другие мнения. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240213142900-Infovarius-20240213142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240213142900-Infovarius-20240213142100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240213142900-Infovarius-20240213142100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infovarius-20240214100700-Ыфь77-20240213142900"></span>А у нас нету элемента "культура по этнической группе"? Его бы можно поставить в P31 для них. А нужен ли P279, я не уверен. --<a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infovarius" title="User talk:Infovarius"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Infovarius-20240214100700-Ыфь77-20240213142900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infovarius-20240214100700-Ыфь77-20240213142900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infovarius-20240214100700-Ыфь77-20240213142900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ыфь77-20240214100900-Infovarius-20240214100700"></span>Как метакласс - есть. UPD: нужен, потому что этнические группы свойством P279 обладают, следовательно иерархия есть. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User:Ыфь77">Ыфь77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%AB%D1%84%D1%8C77" title="User talk:Ыфь77"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Ыфь77-20240214100900-Infovarius-20240214100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ыфь77-20240214100900-Infovarius-20240214100700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ыфь77-20240214100900-Infovarius-20240214100700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits-20240218194100"><span id="Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_.28Q155979.29_edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits-20240218194100"></span>Controversial <a href="/wiki/Q155979" title="Q155979">Alexei Navalny <small>(Q155979)</small></a> edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits-20240218194100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Controversial Alexei Navalny (Q155979) edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits"></span>There is no need to remove such <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q155979&oldid=2080719020">statements</a>, as it directly aligns with Wikidata guidelines. Please refer to the following Wikidata policies (bolding made by me): </p><p><i>Marking erroneous statements as deprecated instead of <b>simply deleting</b> such statements has three benefits:</i> </p><p><i>3. it pholds and establishes the integrity of Wikidata as a secondary knowledge base (<b>that collects and links to references</b>), rather than a primary database of facts. Wikidata simply provides information according to specific sources; those sources may or may not reflect contemporary thought or scientific consensus.</i> </p> <ul><li>Source: <a href="/wiki/Help:Ranking" title="Help:Ranking">Help:Ranking</a><i></i></li></ul> <p><i>Qualifiers therefore contribute to Wikidata's flexibility as a platform and its ability to support a plurality of perspectives, including data which may provide contradicting information. In case of disputes, community consensus ultimately determines the value of a property, <b>however other points of views can be added as additional values using qualifiers as well as sources</b>. Please note that just as Wikipedia does not publish original research or content representing the beliefs of its editors, <b>Wikidata does not allow contributions that reflect personal stances or opinions</b>, nor does it tolerate edit warring over statement values.</i> </p> <ul><li>Source: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Verifiability" title="Wikidata:Verifiability">Wikidata:Verifiability</a><i></i></li></ul> <p>Assessing usefulness is subjective, and each user should decide whether to trust one source over another. </p><p>Please note that I will revert these edits as controversial and disruptive after 48 hours to avoid initiating an edit war. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Arjun_S%C3%A0jeev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Arjun Sàjeev (page does not exist)">Arjun Sàjeev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjun_S%C3%A0jeev" title="User talk:Arjun Sàjeev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100-Controversial_Alexei_Navalny_(Q155979)_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240219131600-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Arjun_S%C3%A0jeev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Arjun Sàjeev (page does not exist)"><bdi>Arjun Sàjeev</bdi></a>: First of all, I didn't mean that the value was errorneous, I meant it was <i>reduntant</i> and "does not make much sense for us" (c).</dd> <dd>If there is a person was born on June 4, 1976, we will have different options of how can the date of birth be represented: 1) 4 June 1976, 2) 1976, 3) June 1976; all of these three can be surely proven by sources. Also, some sources may list the day of birth only, or may not show the date of birth but within the context it might've been clear that the person started living in the XX century, thus we can get the value 4) 20. century. It would be superfluous to list all of these values although none of these ones are incorrect.</dd> <dd>Preferred and deprecated ranks might be good if we knew that there are sources which question the person's day of birth, or even the whole date of birth. In very this case and as far as I know, sources are more-less agree that Mr Navalny was born on June 4, 1976, and if one of the many databases displays just the year, for an unclear reason like code restrictions or another, we can neglect a database entry as a source for birthdate as incomplete and/or excessive for referencing.</dd> <dd>For what have been bolded:</dd> <dd><i>Marking erroneous statements as deprecated instead of simply deleting</i> -- We did not have an issue about the deprecated rank, and no one says that any property values are erroneous.</dd> <dd>Your understanding of <i>Wikidata as a secondary knowledge base that collects the references</i> is too literal, like if we should add a myriad of values for every property within an item, including those with typos or unintentional inaccuracies, just because of presence of at least one reference. For example, in practice we still do not seek to add literally all of the variants of romanization of the name "Алексей Анатольевич Навальный", incl. IPA-based one, letter-by-letter transliterations, obviously errorneous romanization styles, derogatory misrepresentations of the his name used by political opponents, etc.</dd> <dd><i>other points of views can be added as additional values using qualifiers as well as sources</i> -- Not the real case of POV ambiguity. He was our contemporary so we know detailedly his date of birth from his personal statements or state registers</dd> <dd><i>Wikidata does not allow contributions that reflect personal stances or opinions</i> -- Off topic?</dd> <dd><i>Assessing usefulness is subjective, and each user should decide whether to trust one source over another.</i> -- OK, if X is incomplete information and Y is complete information, X and Y may be both trustful, but X and Y are not the same valuable. Sorry but it looks like you are outraged of my edits while being misunderstood the meaning of them.</dd> <dd>The removal of reduntant values is not a clear violation and can just hardly be labeled as 'controversial' and 'disruptive'. Can I give you a hint on what <i>may</i> be considered controversial? Things like: I) bolding cited parts of policies in a semi-public message that looks like an attempt to use a condescending or didactic manner, II) assuming bad-faith ("...revert ... in 48 hours ... to avoid initiating an edit war" although it's not obvious if I am intending to initiate one), III) assuming that a user (be it newcomer or sysop) does something disruptive in spite of the other contributions seemed to be clearly constructive, with an attempt to present the very own vision of policies as the only correct.</dd> <dd>Do not worry, I am not going to initiate the edit-war even if you revert the edits right now and call them un-God-ly disruptive. In fact, this does not look like a reason for dispute and mutual accusations, although ... depends on an individual. :-] --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240219131600-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240219131600-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240219131600-Arjun_Sàjeev-20240218194100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)-20240227190600"><span id="Szlachta_family_.28Q115867377.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)-20240227190600"></span><a href="/wiki/Q115867377" class="mw-redirect" title="Q115867377">Szlachta family <small>(Q115867377)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)-20240227190600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Szlachta family (Q115867377)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Heroldicas-20240227190600-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)"></span>Hello sir. I would like to ask you for help in creating a redirect from <a href="/wiki/Q115867377" class="mw-redirect" title="Q115867377">Szlachta family <small>(Q115867377)</small></a> to <a href="/wiki/Q27062351" title="Q27062351">Szlachta family <small>(Q27062351)</small></a> because they are exactly the same subjects that are simply named differently. <a href="/wiki/Q115867377" class="mw-redirect" title="Q115867377">Szlachta family <small>(Q115867377)</small></a> is not linked to any subpage. Thank you very much. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Heroldicas&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Heroldicas (page does not exist)">Heroldicas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Heroldicas" title="User talk:Heroldicas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Heroldicas-20240227190600-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Heroldicas-20240227190600-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Heroldicas-20240227190600-Szlachta_family_(Q115867377)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240228065000-Heroldicas-20240227190600"></span>Hello. To merge the items in very this case, I would've had some understanding of the history of Poland, I am afraid mine is (at best) somewhat superficial.<br/>As far as I see it, 'Polish noble family' may be related to the noble families settled in Poland disregard of cultural/ethnical identity, while 'Szlachta family' may be related to the families of the specific noble estate known as Szlachta, disregard of the territory (Lithuania, ...).<br/>If we define the sameness of 'Polish noble family' and 'Szlachta family', we should also say that 1) any noble family that relocated to Poland (within any historical boundaries) from another lands was automatically regarded as a Szlachta family, 2) any noble family of the Polish descent that relocated to another lands, especially far from the Eastern Europe also stopped belonging to the Szlachta. This all probably sounds incorrect. We could divide nobility both ways, by country and by cultural ties, without mixing concepts.<br/>But then again, I am reasoning as a person with somewhat poor knowledge of the Polish history. Would not you like to consult the Polish-speaking community first? <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Kafejka" title="Wikidata:Kafejka">Wikidata:Kafejka</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240228065000-Heroldicas-20240227190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240228065000-Heroldicas-20240227190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240228065000-Heroldicas-20240227190600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Heroldicas-20240228114100-Wolverène-20240228065000"></span>I'll do that. Thank you for your time and have a nice day! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Heroldicas&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Heroldicas (page does not exist)">Heroldicas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Heroldicas" title="User talk:Heroldicas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Heroldicas-20240228114100-Wolverène-20240228065000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Heroldicas-20240228114100-Wolverène-20240228065000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Heroldicas-20240228114100-Wolverène-20240228065000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240228120200-Heroldicas-20240228114100"></span>Same to you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240228120200-Heroldicas-20240228114100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240228120200-Heroldicas-20240228114100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240228120200-Heroldicas-20240228114100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requests_for_permissions_ab." data-mw-thread-id="h-Requests_for_permissions_ab.-20240311003400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requests_for_permissions_ab.-20240311003400"></span>Requests for permissions ab.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requests_for_permissions_ab.-20240311003400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Requests for permissions ab."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiklav-20240311003400-Requests_for_permissions_ab."></span>I applied through this link <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Other_rights#DrowssapSMM">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Other_rights#DrowssapSMM</a> but I guess I couldn't do it. :( --<a href="/wiki/User:Quiklav" title="User:Quiklav">Quiklav</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quiklav" title="User talk:Quiklav"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Quiklav-20240311003400-Requests_for_permissions_ab." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiklav-20240311003400-Requests_for_permissions_ab."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quiklav-20240311003400-Requests_for_permissions_ab."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240311031100-Quiklav-20240311003400"></span>Hello, I have fixed/formatted your request. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240311031100-Quiklav-20240311003400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240311031100-Quiklav-20240311003400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240311031100-Quiklav-20240311003400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ruwiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-ruwiki-20240321123600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ruwiki-20240321123600"></span>ruwiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ruwiki-20240321123600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: ruwiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madamebiblio-20240321123600-ruwiki"></span>Hola @<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> Could you check <a href="/wiki/Q125024231" class="mw-redirect" title="Q125024231">this supposed template</a> on Russian wiki, please? спасибо. <a href="/wiki/User:Madamebiblio" title="User:Madamebiblio">Madamebiblio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madamebiblio" title="User talk:Madamebiblio"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Madamebiblio-20240321123600-ruwiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madamebiblio-20240321123600-ruwiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madamebiblio-20240321123600-ruwiki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240322032100-Madamebiblio-20240321123600"></span>Buen día, I have fixed the template and merged the WD items. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240322032100-Madamebiblio-20240321123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240322032100-Madamebiblio-20240321123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240322032100-Madamebiblio-20240321123600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_request-20240409192600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_request-20240409192600"></span>Bot request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_request-20240409192600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Bot request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600-Bot_request"></span>Hello you've been asked for feedback at <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bot_requests#The_nl_descriptions_lacking_the_space_sign_(2023-11-02)">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bot_requests#The_nl_descriptions_lacking_the_space_sign_(2023-11-02)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Vojt%C4%9Bch_Dost%C3%A1l" title="User:Vojtěch Dostál">Vojtěch Dostál</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vojt%C4%9Bch_Dost%C3%A1l" title="User talk:Vojtěch Dostál"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600-Bot_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600-Bot_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600-Bot_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240410061400-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600"></span>Thank you, I am going to respond later. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240410061400-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240410061400-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240410061400-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240409192600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Empty/Blank_items" data-mw-thread-id="h-Empty/Blank_items-20240419083600"><span id="Empty.2FBlank_items"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Empty/Blank_items-20240419083600"></span>Empty/Blank items<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Empty/Blank_items-20240419083600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Empty/Blank items"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600-Empty/Blank_items"></span>What do we do with unlinked blank items like <a href="/wiki/Q125523037" title="Q125523037">Q125523037</a>? Thanks - <a href="/wiki/User:PotsdamLamb" title="User:PotsdamLamb">Da Lamb</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PotsdamLamb" title="User talk:PotsdamLamb">Talk to me!</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb" title="Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb">Please don't eat da 🐑!</a></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600-Empty/Blank_items" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600-Empty/Blank_items"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600-Empty/Blank_items"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240419084900-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600"></span>Technically such pages comply with the rules, see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:N">WD:N</a> criterion 3. The village of <a href="/wiki/Q20465835" title="Q20465835">Vuhly <small>(Q20465835)</small></a> was a part of <a href="/wiki/Q125523037" title="Q125523037">Bobynichi Volost <small>(Q125523037)</small></a> until 1924 (the start of the Soviet rule).<br/>Volost is an analogue of <a href="/wiki/Q3491994" title="Q3491994">subdistrict</a> or <a href="/wiki/Q19610511" title="Q19610511">township</a>, I guess...<br/>Also, I could suggest to add <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/68418-gubernii-i-arhangelskaya-xxv-nizhegorodskaya-1892-statistika-rossiyskoy-imperii-15#mode/inspect/page/51/zoom/5">this historical source</a> (list of volost's in Vitebsk region).<br/>What do we do? It just may be expanded, there is nothing 'criminally' wrong with these items. Such items are also not completely empty. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240419084900-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240419084900-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240419084900-PotsdamLamb-20240419083600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000-Wolverène-20240419084900"></span>Don’t care bye! See other post. Thanks - <a href="/wiki/User:PotsdamLamb" title="User:PotsdamLamb">Da Lamb</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PotsdamLamb" title="User talk:PotsdamLamb">Talk to me!</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb" title="Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb">Please don't eat da 🐑!</a></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000-Wolverène-20240419084900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000-Wolverène-20240419084900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000-Wolverène-20240419084900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240419094000-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000"></span>I have responded to you there. I have nothing more to say. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240419094000-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240419094000-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240419094000-PotsdamLamb-20240419085000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240419101700-Empty/Blank_items"></span>P.S. I see that literally nobody cares, just a record for the history -- the item was created just two hours ago and looks like there is still a work on it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240419101700-Empty/Blank_items" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240419101700-Empty/Blank_items"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240419101700-Empty/Blank_items"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation-20240422131000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation-20240422131000"></span>Timeline template and Item Documentation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation-20240422131000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Timeline template and Item Documentation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-20240422131000-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation"></span>I saw you put <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Timeline" title="Template:Timeline">Timeline</a>}}</code> template on a person template recently. Maybe it is more appropriate to generalize that a bit and push it into <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Item_documentation" title="Template:Item documentation">Item documentation</a>}}</code> somewhere so that it appears on all person's talk page ? <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-TomT0m-20240422131000-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-20240422131000-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-20240422131000-Timeline_template_and_Item_Documentation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240422131500-TomT0m-20240422131000"></span>In fact, I just did not want to leave the talk page empty. I would rather delete the talk page, I am not quite sure if this template was really helpful for somebody. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240422131500-TomT0m-20240422131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240422131500-TomT0m-20240422131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240422131500-TomT0m-20240422131000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_10th_Anniversary" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_10th_Anniversary-20240425091900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_10th_Anniversary-20240425091900"></span>My 10th Anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_10th_Anniversary-20240425091900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: My 10th Anniversary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240425091900-My_10th_Anniversary"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast,_Las_Vegas_(Summerlin)._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg/165px-Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg" decoding="async" width="165" height="124" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg/248px-Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg/330px-Peng_Zu_restaurant_at_the_Suncoast%2C_Las_Vegas_%28Summerlin%29._I_had_the_mango_cake_for_dessert.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4048" data-file-height="3036"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>It's been exactly 10 years since I joined Wikidata and Wikipedia. The reason to congratulate myself on this! 🎉 --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240425091900-My_10th_Anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240425091900-My_10th_Anniversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240425091900-My_10th_Anniversary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Heroldicas-20240502094800-Wolverène-20240425091900"></span>Congrats, sir! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Heroldicas&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Heroldicas (page does not exist)">Heroldicas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Heroldicas" title="User talk:Heroldicas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Heroldicas-20240502094800-Wolverène-20240425091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Heroldicas-20240502094800-Wolverène-20240425091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Heroldicas-20240502094800-Wolverène-20240425091900"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both; height: 1em"></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eden_Golan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eden_Golan-20240519115800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eden_Golan-20240519115800"></span>Eden Golan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eden_Golan-20240519115800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Eden Golan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MaskedSinger-20240519115800-Eden_Golan"></span>As per your comment, when you protected her page her <a href="/wiki/Q81436819" title="Q81436819">Q81436819</a>, I posted on her talk page. If you could please take a look. Thank you. And congrats on your 10 year anniversary! A wonderful accomplishment. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MaskedSinger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MaskedSinger (page does not exist)">MaskedSinger</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MaskedSinger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:MaskedSinger (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-MaskedSinger-20240519115800-Eden_Golan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaskedSinger-20240519115800-Eden_Golan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaskedSinger-20240519115800-Eden_Golan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240519143000-MaskedSinger-20240519115800"></span>Hello (shalom?) and thank you! I have responded to you there and fixed a little something... --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240519143000-MaskedSinger-20240519115800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240519143000-MaskedSinger-20240519115800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240519143000-MaskedSinger-20240519115800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)-20240520173800"><span id="Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_.28Q1019.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)-20240520173800"></span>Incorrect labels at <a href="/wiki/Q1019" title="Q1019">Madagascar <small>(Q1019)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)-20240520173800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Incorrect labels at Madagascar (Q1019)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)"></span>On <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1019&diff=prev&oldid=1867774548">this edit</a> to <a href="/wiki/Q1019" title="Q1019">Madagascar <small>(Q1019)</small></a>, incorrect labels were added. Because that page is semi-protected, I cannot undo the edit. I'm asking if you can. Also, about the mass edits on <a href="/wiki/Q118145112" title="Q118145112">Hailey's On It! <small>(Q118145112)</small></a>, I can explain why they were made. In most of those languages (like Breton and Corsican), the original title is used because there is no title in those languages. However, Haitian Creole uses the French titles, Emiliano-Romagnolo uses the Italian titles, and Alemannic uses the German titles. This is because Haitian Creole is similar to French, Emiliano-Romagnolo is similar to Italian, and Alemannic is the Swiss dialect of German. Finally, on <a href="/wiki/Q437449" title="Q437449">Kali Rocha <small>(Q437449)</small></a>, there is no Ukrainian label despite having the Ukrainian description. Do you know who could add the Ukrainian label? There is also no Malayalam label, despite having the Malayalam description. I also want to request an article on <i>Hailey's On It!</i> in Luxembourgish, because I've seen you expand the one on <a href="/wiki/Q8172269" title="Q8172269">Liv and Maddie <small>(Q8172269)</small></a>. I also want to request Russian and German articles on <a href="/wiki/Q288138" title="Q288138">Gordy <small>(Q288138)</small></a> and expand the Luxembourgish article on <a href="/wiki/Q184342" title="Q184342">Wizards of Waverly Place <small>(Q184342)</small></a>. Thank you for hearing this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B" title="Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B">2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800-Incorrect_labels_at_Madagascar_(Q1019)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240521054200-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800"></span>1) I do not recommend to add labels if you are not sure if they are existing in a specific language, or if you do not know how the Wikipedia projects name the articles. The labels are not an obligatory thing. For example, on Q118145112 I set the Luxembourgish label as 'Hailey's On It!' because I know that the lbWP is using the original names in the article titles although, it would seem to us that the French or German names are the most typical for Luxembourg (even if some lb translation exists). I set the Veps label as 'Heilil om azj!' because the vepWP tends to translate the titles from the names accepted in Russian (local lingua-franca) literally, so I could not set the label 'Хейли в деле!' for Veps although for the speakers this name is obviously the most recognizable and the series will almost certainly be never translated into Veps. If you are not know which names are acceptable for each language, no need in experiments! Assuming of a similarity is not a valid thing too, sometimes it may look conflict-generating -- e.g. imagine adding a Spanish-language name as the Catalan label, or adding a Russian name as the Ukrainian label. Also, some edits within that editing were obiously incorrect -- like, a speaker of any Slavic language could see that <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q118145112&diff=2159473264&oldid=2159164832">this description is incorrect</a> because of the mismatch of the gender endings in the adjectives; in Bulgarian it should sound as 'американск<b>и</b> анимационен сериал' (<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q118145112&diff=2160667883&oldid=2160654586">fixed</a>). I do not speak Bulgarian but it caught my eye. :)</dd> <dd>2) Q1019 is fixed.</dd> <dd>3) I have added the Ukrainian label for Q437449 myself, I have no idea what to do with the Malayalam label, perfectly not familiar with their abugida. Sooner or later it will surely be appeared.</dd> <dd>4) I have just very basic skills of German and Luxembourgish. Also the local article policy in the deWP is somewhat strict so I may be failed creating a sub-stub in German, I am not sure which size and which degree of notability are acceptable for them. I could create a couple of stub-class articles in Luxembourgish, with a hope that I will not mess with the wording. :) I also may create the Russian article about <i>Gordy</i> later but I do not promise.</dd> <dd>Thank you for attention. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240521054200-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240521054200-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240521054200-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240520173800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900-Wolverène-20240521054200"></span>I actually did know the Wikipedia projects that name the articles after other languages. If you'll notice, Haitian Creole usually uses the French titles. Gilles2014 is one of the admins writing articles there, and they are usually translated from French. Emiliano-Romagnolo uses the Italian titles, and Gloria sah is one of the admins there translating the Italian pages to Emiliano-Romagnolo. Alemannic is actually Swiss German, and Holder is one of the admins translating German to Alemannic there. So, can these titles be added back? For Malayalam, the titles are transliterated from the original title to Malayalam. I was asking if you knew any users who speak Malayalam who could add the Malayalam label. I saw a description, but no label. Maybe ask the user who added the description? Finally, if you can't write the Russian <i>Gordy</i>, do you know who could? I also wanted the German and Japanese versions. I know you can't speak Japanese, but do you know which users in jawp could write about <i>Gordy</i>? Finally, would like to request a Luxembourgish article on <a href="/wiki/Q36479" title="Q36479">The Lion King <small>(Q36479)</small></a> as well. The page was deleted as vandalism, but how much would it need to be an acceptable sub-stub? I have seen the lbwp page on <a href="/wiki/Q40302" title="Q40302">The Fox and the Hound <small>(Q40302)</small></a>, and it later was edited by other editors. And I must make a correction about <a href="/wiki/Q184342" title="Q184342">Wizards of Waverly Place <small>(Q184342)</small></a>. I had seen the older version of that page in lbwp, and it wasn't that long. However, I didn't realize that another editor already expanded it a few years ago. So, I guess it has enough now. Would it be OK if I made <i>The Lion King</i> in lbwp based on <i>The Fox and the Hound</i>, and then maybe you or other people could add to it? I generally like most Disney movies and shows. Some of my favorites include <i>Bambi</i>, <i>Dumbo</i>, <i>The Little Mermaid</i>, <i>Lady and the Tramp</i>, <i>Oliver & Company</i>, <i>Beauty and the Beast</i>, <i>One Hundred and One Dalmatians</i>, <i>Hamster & Gretel</i>, <i>Fancy Nancy</i>, <i>Sydney to the Max</i>, and <i>Encanto</i>. Plus some more like the ones I have edited. Thank you for your help, and sorry I had to take a month to reply. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B" title="Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B">2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900-Wolverène-20240521054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900-Wolverène-20240521054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900-Wolverène-20240521054200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900"></span>What should the Veps label for <i>The Lion King</i> be? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF">2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100-2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B-20240623153900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240828181800-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100"></span>"Lev-kunigaz". --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240828181800-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240828181800-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240828181800-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828140100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q60764836" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q60764836-20240616153300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q60764836-20240616153300"></span><a href="/wiki/Q60764836" title="Q60764836">Q60764836</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q60764836-20240616153300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Q60764836"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300-Q60764836"></span>Hi there, you recently <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q60764836&diff=prev&oldid=2173644698">reverted</a> my edit to the entry <a href="/wiki/Q60764836" title="Q60764836">Q60764836</a>. I changed it from "2019 album by Hiroyuki Sawano" to "2019 studio album by SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]" because: 1. he has released compilation albums in the past, so i thought "studio album" was much more specific; 2. he used the alias "SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]" for this work; are we supposed to disregard the aliases for such cases and use the real name instead? BTW, is it just me, or can we not add summaries to the changes we make here? i see you were able to insert "???" in your revert's summary; how do we do that? Is it something exclusive to admins? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lunar-akaunto&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lunar-akaunto (page does not exist)">Lunar-akaunto</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lunar-akaunto&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Lunar-akaunto (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300-Q60764836" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300-Q60764836"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300-Q60764836"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240616200600-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300"></span>You could have just undone my 'silent' revert with adding explanation. I admit I misunderstood your edit so I am going to restore it back. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240616200600-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240616200600-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240616200600-Lunar-akaunto-20240616153300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240617005600-Wolverène-20240616200600"></span>Oh. So it allows adding a summary when reverting others. Sorry, i didn't know that. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lunar-akaunto&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lunar-akaunto (page does not exist)">Lunar-akaunto</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lunar-akaunto&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Lunar-akaunto (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Lunar-akaunto-20240617005600-Wolverène-20240616200600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240617005600-Wolverène-20240616200600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lunar-akaunto-20240617005600-Wolverène-20240616200600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Grand_Theft_Auto_VI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI-20240718133300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI-20240718133300"></span>Grand Theft Auto VI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI-20240718133300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Grand Theft Auto VI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eurohunter-20240718133300-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI"></span>Hello. The question is which studio is developing <i>Grand Theft Auto VI</i>? Developer is unknown. We only know that the game will be published by American Rockstar Games. <a href="/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Eurohunter-20240718133300-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eurohunter-20240718133300-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eurohunter-20240718133300-Grand_Theft_Auto_VI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240718190400-Eurohunter-20240718133300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter"><bdi>Eurohunter</bdi></a>: Hello! Country of origin is not necessary same with the country of development. Yes, we are still not sure which studio is developing the game and where it is located, but we know that the series of Grand Theft Auto is originated in the UK (in Scotland, strictly speaking). Country of publishing can be shown in <a href="/wiki/Property:P123" title="Property:P123">publisher <small dir="ltr">(P123)</small></a> with the qualifier <a href="/wiki/Property:P291" title="Property:P291">place of publication <small dir="ltr">(P291)</small></a>.<br/>Also, although this is not the best argument but still -- almost all another items for GTA games are stating the United Kingdom as the sole country of origin. In short, here it is important where the idea of the game was implemented initially. Best regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240718190400-Eurohunter-20240718133300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240718190400-Eurohunter-20240718133300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240718190400-Eurohunter-20240718133300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eurohunter-20240719205800-Wolverène-20240718190400"></span>It doesn't matter. For now, it's unknown as there is no information about developing studio (Original research). Even if all the games of <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> series were created by British developers, it's possible that new <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> could be created by other studio - American studio for example. <a href="/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Eurohunter-20240719205800-Wolverène-20240718190400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eurohunter-20240719205800-Wolverène-20240718190400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eurohunter-20240719205800-Wolverène-20240718190400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240720221900-Eurohunter-20240719205800"></span>I am not trying to predict which country is the centre of the development. I may have a misconception about what the property '<a href="/wiki/Property:P495" title="Property:P495">country of origin <small dir="ltr">(P495)</small></a>' is intended for, I always thought this one is for the place where the <i>whole series of related items</i> is originating from. My vision may not be accurate. If we had a special property for the 'country of production' (also conceptually distinct from 'c. of origin'), there would not a problem like this.<br/>I believe you can fix the value in P495 making it 'unknown value', I do not see it as something obviously wrong. Sooner or later it will be clear which country to be entered there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240720221900-Eurohunter-20240719205800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240720221900-Eurohunter-20240719205800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240720221900-Eurohunter-20240719205800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diljá" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diljá-20240722234600"><span id="Dilj.C3.A1"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diljá-20240722234600"></span>Diljá<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diljá-20240722234600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Diljá"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steinninn-20240722234600-Diljá"></span>Why did you put Diljá Pétursdóttir and Diljá in <a href="/wiki/Property:P1559" title="Property:P1559">name in native language <small dir="ltr">(P1559)</small></a> for <a href="/wiki/Q116979332" title="Q116979332">Diljá <small>(Q116979332)</small></a>. Diljá Pétursdóttir is the correct full name. Am I missing something? <a href="/wiki/User:Steinninn" title="User:Steinninn">Steinninn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steinninn" title="User talk:Steinninn"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Steinninn-20240722234600-Diljá" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steinninn-20240722234600-Diljá"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steinninn-20240722234600-Diljá"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240723044300-Steinninn-20240722234600"></span>Looks like she is mostly known by the mononym Diljá than by the full name with the patronymic, internationally too. Is not she? --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240723044300-Steinninn-20240722234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240723044300-Steinninn-20240722234600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240723044300-Steinninn-20240722234600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mul_labels" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mul_labels-20240826174100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mul_labels-20240826174100"></span>Mul labels<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mul_labels-20240826174100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Mul labels"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100-Mul_labels"></span>On <a href="/wiki/Q118145112" title="Q118145112">Hailey's On It! <small>(Q118145112)</small></a>, should the mul label be removed? <a href="/wiki/User:Madamebiblio" title="User:Madamebiblio">User:Madamebiblio</a> reverted at a few, such as <a href="/wiki/Q215617" title="Q215617">Sleeping Beauty <small>(Q215617)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q188439" title="Q188439">Tangled <small>(Q188439)</small></a>. I was also the one to request the Russian page about <i>Gordy</i>, and I still would love to know who could create it. Please see the reply from 2602:306:3384:B280:6F93:49ED:AB76:E8B above. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C" title="Special:Contributions/2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C">2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100-Mul_labels" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100-Mul_labels"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100-Mul_labels"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madamebiblio-20240826175600-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100"></span>Please, read <a href="/wiki/Help:Default_values_for_labels_and_aliases" title="Help:Default values for labels and aliases">this help</a>. Mul label is NOT used in films or TV series. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Madamebiblio" title="User:Madamebiblio">Madamebiblio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madamebiblio" title="User talk:Madamebiblio"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Madamebiblio-20240826175600-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madamebiblio-20240826175600-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madamebiblio-20240826175600-2602:306:3384:B280:B457:62D0:EE3B:F17C-20240826174100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200-Madamebiblio-20240826175600"></span>However, <a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">User:Infovarius</a> has reverted at <a href="/wiki/Q132863" title="Q132863">Finding Nemo <small>(Q132863)</small></a> and five others. There seems to be confusion. Which user is right? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF">2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200-Madamebiblio-20240826175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200-Madamebiblio-20240826175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200-Madamebiblio-20240826175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240828131500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200"></span>That one who is citing the help/policy page. :) As I understand, the default/multilingual labels are intended not for creative works (rather for people or subjects with scientific names). --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240828131500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240828131500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240828131500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828131200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000-Wolverène-20240828131500"></span>These are the other items: <a href="/wiki/Q271189" title="Q271189">Hercules <small>(Q271189)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q4499813" title="Q4499813">Home <small>(Q4499813)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q943192" title="Q943192">Fantasia <small>(Q943192)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q30937" title="Q30937">Fantasia 2000 <small>(Q30937)</small></a>, and <a href="/wiki/Q485983" title="Q485983">Shrek 2 <small>(Q485983)</small></a>. Also, could you please add the vep label for <i>Finding Nemo</i>? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF">2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000-Wolverène-20240828131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000-Wolverène-20240828131500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000-Wolverène-20240828131500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20240828133500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000"></span>vep = Nemon ecmižiš. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20240828133500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20240828133500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20240828133500-2600:1700:EAF1:91F0:F17A:163B:99B0:F9EF-20240828133000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chiman_Maru" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chiman_Maru-20241007221400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chiman_Maru-20241007221400"></span>Chiman Maru<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chiman_Maru-20241007221400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Chiman Maru"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20241007221400-Chiman_Maru"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently discovered that the category <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Chiman_Maru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Chiman Maru (page does not exist)">Category:Chiman Maru</a> has been deleted under the reasoning of "Empty category (C2)." However, this action is highly questionable, as the category was **not empty** and contained **5 images**, all properly titled, captioned, and accurately linked with Wikidata, including a **signature image**. </p><p>Furthermore, the images and signature statements linked to my Wikidata profile were removed by **CommonsDelinker**. This raises serious concerns—if the category was allegedly empty, why were the associated **Wikidata image and signature statements** deleted? This feels unnecessary and unjustified, especially given the effort put into ensuring that everything complied with Wikimedia's guidelines. </p><p>To add to this, the **Wikidata item "Q130394775"**, which was carefully structured and well-referenced for **notability**, has been deleted by the user **Wolverène**. The item was built according to Wikidata's standards, complete with proper references and notability links, yet it was removed without valid reasoning. Additionally, user **Stanglavine** has taken steps to block my IP address without a justifiable cause, which seems like an attempt to silence any legitimate defense or clarification I may present. </p><p>I am now requesting that this matter be reviewed by an administrator at a higher level, as I am unable to present my case due to these unwarranted deletions and restrictions. I believe these actions were taken without a full understanding of the situation, and I request that this be looked into with the seriousness it deserves. Furthermore, I would appreciate guidance on how to properly manage the situation, including the restoration of the deleted items and the removal of the unjust IP block. </p><p>I trust that Wikimedia's commitment to fairness will guide this process toward a just resolution. </p><p>Looking forward to your prompt response. </p><p>Best regards, Chiman Maru </p> <dl><dd>Hello. First of all, I have nothing to do with the deletion of the category. Was it on Wikimedia Commons? I have no even a permission to delete or restore any page there. My only responsibility there is related to the deletion of the Wikidata page. It did not meet the notability criteria -- please read <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:N">this policy</a> carefully. It had no references, which in very this case, I guess, should be external links to reliable sources. It also had no, for example, Wikimedia sitelinks and seems it was not useful for a structural need (= internal connection between items).<br/>Also, here on Wikidata we do not encourage the self-promotion attempts, and the links to the social networks are not normally enough to make an item meet the notability criteria.<br/>Please, prove us you can be regarded as a notable person providing some reliable (!) sources describing you.<br/>Otherwise, there is nothing wrong to be a not enough notable subject for Wikidata (well, maybe it is so just at the moment, life's long) and the web services like linktr.ee are more useful for storing your personal links to the social networks than the site you are currently browsing through. Thanks for understanding. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20241007221400-Chiman_Maru" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20241007221400-Chiman_Maru"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20241007221400-Chiman_Maru"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Autopatrolled" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autopatrolled-20241016141500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autopatrolled-20241016141500"></span>Autopatrolled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autopatrolled-20241016141500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Autopatrolled"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500-Autopatrolled"></span>Hello, I would like to request the Autopatrolled right. I am contributing a large number of Wikidata items that are missing Vietnamese descriptions. Therefore, I need the Autopatrolled right to reduce the workload for other patrollers. You may check my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/P._%C4%90%C4%82NG">contributions</a> and rights across other Wikimedia projects if you wish. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:P._%C4%90%C4%82NG" title="User:P. ĐĂNG">P. ĐĂNG</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:P._%C4%90%C4%82NG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:P. ĐĂNG (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500-Autopatrolled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500-Autopatrolled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500-Autopatrolled"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20241017205900-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500"></span>Hello and sorry for an unintentional ignoring. Anyway, you were an autopatrolled user already at the time you created this topic. Best regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20241017205900-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20241017205900-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20241017205900-P._ĐĂNG-20241016141500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt-20241108132700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt-20241108132700"></span>Request for Confirmed User of Xikmoryt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt-20241108132700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Request for Confirmed User of Xikmoryt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Xikmoryt" title="User:Xikmoryt"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xikmoryt-20241108132700-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt"></span>Xikmoryt</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xikmoryt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Xikmoryt (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Xikmoryt" title="Special:Contributions/Xikmoryt">contribs</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Xikmoryt&namespace=0&newOnly=1">new items</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Xikmoryt&namespace=146&newOnly=1">new lexemes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Xikmoryt" title="Special:CentralAuth/Xikmoryt">SUL</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Xikmoryt">Block log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=rights&page=User:Xikmoryt">User rights log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserRights/Xikmoryt&user-reason=">User rights</a> • <span class="plainlinks"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/wikidata.org?user=Xikmoryt">xtools</a></span>)</span> </p><p>Can I get a wikidata confirmed user? I opened account last 5 days and added more than 200 edits and new information. Also I have a lot of ideas about Wikidata. I believe in my work and spend a lot of time editing Wikidata.Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Xikmoryt" title="User:Xikmoryt">Xikmoryt</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xikmoryt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Xikmoryt (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Xikmoryt-20241108132700-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xikmoryt-20241108132700-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xikmoryt-20241108132700-Request_for_Confirmed_User_of_Xikmoryt"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolverène-20241109175000-Xikmoryt-20241108132700"></span>Hello, you are already an autoconfirmed user. The flag of autoconfirmed is the same to flag of confirmed, you have just got it automatically, not manually by a sysop. Happy editing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wolver%C3%A8ne" title="User:Wolverène">Wolverène</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Wolver%C3%A8ne#c-Wolverène-20241109175000-Xikmoryt-20241108132700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolverène-20241109175000-Xikmoryt-20241108132700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolverène-20241109175000-Xikmoryt-20241108132700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xikmoryt-20241110073200-Wolverène-20241109175000"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Xikmoryt" title="User:Xikmoryt">Xikmoryt</a> (<a 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