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class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: A TARDIS for you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--sche-20240621160800-A_TARDIS_for_you"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Red_telephone_box,_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral,_London,_England,_GB,_IMG_5182_edit.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg/120px-Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="183" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg/180px-Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg/240px-Red_telephone_box%2C_St_Paul%27s_Cathedral%2C_London%2C_England%2C_GB%2C_IMG_5182_edit.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3608" data-file-height="5509"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">A rouge TARDIS (or the closest thing I could find on Commons), for having made a closure so <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Rouge_admin" title="Wikipedia:Rouge admin">Rouge</a> that its effects travelled through time and were being challenged <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=1230130740#Challenge_to_closure_of_parts_2_and_3">before</a> you even issued it.<br/>. . .<br/>But to be serious, I appreciate that you undertook to close, and closed so thoughtfully, such a large and complex discussion even as it was getting international attention and pushback. Someone had to do it; the discussion was open for so long as to suggest no-one <i>wanted</i> to do it; I appreciate you doing it. <a href="/wiki/User:-sche" title="User:-sche">-sche</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:-sche" title="User talk:-sche">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c--sche-20240621160800-A_TARDIS_for_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--sche-20240621160800-A_TARDIS_for_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--sche-20240621160800-A_TARDIS_for_you"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300--sche-20240621160800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:-sche" title="User:-sche">-sche</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:CommunityNotesContributor" title="User:CommunityNotesContributor">CommunityNotesContributor</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint">Starship.paint</a>:</span> Thank you for the kind words, I'm just glad the discussion is finished and we can move on (at least until the next challenge). I'm sure co-closers <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin">Tamzin</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">Theleekycauldron</a> feel the same way. If you've got any recommendations for something more fun to read than that RFC (admittedly not a high bar) I could use a palate cleanser. Otherwise I think I'll pick up <a href="/wiki/The_Hobbit" title="The Hobbit">The Hobbit</a> again. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300--sche-20240621160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300--sche-20240621160800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300--sche-20240621160800"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--sche-20240621215500-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"></span>The Hobbit</i> sounds like a great palate cleanser! I was reading his <i>Sea-Bell</i> the other day and learning about the neat words Tolkien coined or resurrected in that and other writings (which might interest you, as a wordsmith, if you don't know them already), like <i><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ruel-bone" class="extiw" title="wikt:ruel-bone">ruel-bone</a></i> and <i><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eucatastrophe" class="extiw" title="wikt:eucatastrophe">wikt:eucatastrophe</a></i>. :o <a href="/wiki/User:-sche" title="User:-sche">-sche</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:-sche" title="User talk:-sche">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c--sche-20240621215500-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--sche-20240621215500-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--sche-20240621215500-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starship.paint-20240622014800-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"></span>You are welcome, the Wordsmith.... <i><a href="/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary" title="Project Hail Mary">Project Hail Mary</a></i>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">starship</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Starship.paint" title="Special:Contributions/Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">.paint</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Starship.paint" title="User talk:Starship.paint">RUN</a>)</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Starship.paint-20240622014800-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Starship.paint-20240622014800-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Starship.paint-20240622014800-The_Wordsmith-20240621185300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200-Starship.paint-20240622014800"></span>Thanks, I just bought it for my Kindle. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200-Starship.paint-20240622014800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200-Starship.paint-20240622014800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200-Starship.paint-20240622014800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint">Starship.paint</a>:</span> Thanks for the recommendation, it made excellent beach/pool-side reading. I haven't finished it yet, but I hope to sometime this weekend. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900-The_Wordsmith-20240623001200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starship.paint-20240801050900-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900"></span>You’re welcome! Interesting to have ‘horror’ story reading at the beach! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">starship</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Starship.paint" title="Special:Contributions/Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">.paint</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Starship.paint" title="User talk:Starship.paint">RUN</a>)</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Starship.paint-20240801050900-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Starship.paint-20240801050900-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Starship.paint-20240801050900-The_Wordsmith-20240731182900"></span> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240801184600-Starship.paint-20240801050900"></span>Amaze</i> <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240801184600-Starship.paint-20240801050900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240801184600-Starship.paint-20240801050900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240801184600-Starship.paint-20240801050900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240713025200"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240713025200"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240713025200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Callanecc-20240713025200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Admin's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for all the work you've done at SPI the past couple days! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Callanecc" title="User:Callanecc">Callanecc</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Callanecc" title="User talk:Callanecc">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Callanecc" title="Special:Contributions/Callanecc">contribs</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Callanecc" title="Special:Log/Callanecc">logs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Callanecc-20240713025200-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Callanecc-20240713025200-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Callanecc-20240713025200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20240715233300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20240715233300"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20240715233300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoeJShmo-20240715233300-Question"></span>Hey, I have a special interest in improving articles with the 'written with advertisement like language' tag, or similar tags, especially corporate articles written in business talk instead of encyclopedic language. Do you know how I can find a list of such articles, or if there is a wikiproject focused on that? <b><a href="/wiki/User:JoeJShmo" title="User:JoeJShmo"><span style="color:#ffadbe">Jo</span><span style="color:#dbafff">e</span><span style="color:#afd0ff">J</span><span style="color:#aafff8">Sh</span><span style="color:#b6fcd5">mo</span></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JoeJShmo" title="User talk:JoeJShmo"><sup>💌</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-JoeJShmo-20240715233300-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoeJShmo-20240715233300-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoeJShmo-20240715233300-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20240716000200-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> As far as I'm aware, there isn't a WikiProject dedicated to that specifically, but <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_with_a_promotional_tone" title="Category:Articles with a promotional tone">Category:Articles with a promotional tone</a> sounds like what you're looking for. There's 22,000 articles in the category so you shouldn't have a lack of things to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Clovermoss-20240716000200-JoeJShmo-20240715233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20240716000200-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20240716000200-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoeJShmo-20240716193200-Clovermoss-20240716000200"></span>Thanks! Maybe I'll make a wikiproject eventually ;) <b><a href="/wiki/User:JoeJShmo" title="User:JoeJShmo"><span style="color:#ffadbe">Jo</span><span style="color:#dbafff">e</span><span style="color:#afd0ff">J</span><span style="color:#aafff8">Sh</span><span style="color:#b6fcd5">mo</span></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JoeJShmo" title="User talk:JoeJShmo"><sup>💌</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-JoeJShmo-20240716193200-Clovermoss-20240716000200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoeJShmo-20240716193200-Clovermoss-20240716000200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoeJShmo-20240716193200-Clovermoss-20240716000200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716193900-JoeJShmo-20240716193200"></span>Just to clarify, there is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CLEANUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CLEANUP">WikiProject Cleanup</a> that might be of interest though it doesn't focus specifically on promotional articles. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240716193900-JoeJShmo-20240716193200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716193900-JoeJShmo-20240716193200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716193900-JoeJShmo-20240716193200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716181800-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"></span>That sounds like a great idea, and Clovermoss is right about that category. Fixing promotional articles is a great way to dive in and make a difference. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240716181800-JoeJShmo-20240715233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716181800-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240716181800-JoeJShmo-20240715233300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_22_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093200"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 22 July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 22 July 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093200-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"></span>Discussion report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Discussion_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Discussion report">Internet users flock to Wikipedia to debate its image policy over Trump raised-fist photo</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/News and notes">Wikimedia community votes to ratify Movement Charter; Wikimedia Foundation opposes ratification</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News from the WMF: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/News_from_the_WMF" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/News from the WMF">Wikimedia Foundation Board resolution and vote on the proposed Movement Charter</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Essay: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Essay" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Essay">Reflections on editing and obsession</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/In the media">What's on Putin's fork, the court's docket, and in Harrison's book?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Obituary: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Obituary" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Obituary">JamesR</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Crossword: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Crossword" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Crossword">Vaguely bird-shaped crossword</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Humour">Joe Biden withdraws RfA, Donald Trump selects co-nom</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-07-22" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-07-22">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093200-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093200-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093200-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="policy_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-policy_question-20240722213500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-policy_question-20240722213500"></span>policy question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-policy_question-20240722213500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: policy question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoeJShmo-20240722213500-policy_question"></span>Hey wordsmith. Hope all is well. I have a question relating to a case I'm involved in. Can a topic ban ever be justified because of a perceived lack of experience and/or policy knowledge? Per ARBPIA, an editor must be EC to edit in certain topics, however, is it up to an admin to determine, even after an editor reached EC, whether that editor has enough experience to be able to edit in that topic? <span style="background:#636363;border:solid#636363 1x;border-radius:15px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:JoeJShmo" title="User:JoeJShmo"><span style="color:#ffadbe">Jo</span><span style="color:#dbafff">e</span><span style="color:#afd0ff">J</span><span style="color:#aafff8">Sh</span><span style="color:#b6fcd5">mo</span></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JoeJShmo" title="User talk:JoeJShmo"><sup><span style="transform:rotate(25deg);display:inline-block;">💌</span></sup></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-JoeJShmo-20240722213500-policy_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoeJShmo-20240722213500-policy_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoeJShmo-20240722213500-policy_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182700-JoeJShmo-20240722213500"></span>I've just gotten back from a vacation, but it seems like this issue was hashed out elsewhere. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182700-JoeJShmo-20240722213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182700-JoeJShmo-20240722213500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240731182700-JoeJShmo-20240722213500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sockpuppetry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sockpuppetry-20240805132900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sockpuppetry-20240805132900"></span>Sockpuppetry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sockpuppetry-20240805132900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Sockpuppetry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20240805132900-Sockpuppetry"></span>Hi, about this SPI case you handled: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/PakistanHistorian/Archive#24_June_2024" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PakistanHistorian/Archive">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PakistanHistorian/Archive#24 June 2024</a>. You had temp blocked 2407:D000:F:0:0:0:0:0/48, 92.40.0.0/16 (?) but these still appear to be quite active with the sock network and disrupting quite a lot of pages. Can the block be extended here again? </p><p>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Gotitbro-20240805132900-Sockpuppetry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20240805132900-Sockpuppetry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20240805132900-Sockpuppetry"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400-Gotitbro-20240805132900"></span>Can you share a few examples of the disruptive edits from this range after the block expired? I'll check to see if there would be any collateral damage, too. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400-Gotitbro-20240805132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400-Gotitbro-20240805132900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400-Gotitbro-20240805132900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20240806072900-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400"></span>Well here is the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rai_Ahmad_Khan_Kharal&diff=prev&oldid=1238825668">latest one</a> (needs PP for socking), mere hours after a previous IP sock was reverted. Others that I recently reverted include <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Awankari_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1237777794">[1]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kohati&diff=prev&oldid=1237779378">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghebi&diff=prev&oldid=1237779862">[3]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thali_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1237781420">[4]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=House_of_Paigah&diff=prev&oldid=1238019220">[5]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_Khan_I&diff=prev&oldid=1238019464">[6]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhibullah_Allahabadi&diff=prev&oldid=1238019741">[7]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saadat_Hasan_Manto&diff=1237385890&oldid=1237239356">[8]</a>. [Most of the recent edits from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=2407:D000:F:0:0:0:0:0/48">2407:D000:F:0:0:0:0:0/48</a> are from the sock network.]</dd> <dd>From the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&end=&namespace=all&start=&tagfilter=&target=92.40.194.0%2F23&offset=&limit=500">92.40.194.0/23</a> range, these include: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riasti_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1236935065">[9]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Majhi_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1232869408">[10]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_in_Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=1235446369">[11]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baba_Farid&diff=prev&oldid=1238038215">[12]</a>. The 'census update' edits from the range are also likely the same sock. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Gotitbro-20240806072900-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20240806072900-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20240806072900-The_Wordsmith-20240805155400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240807155300-Gotitbro-20240806072900"></span>I'm not seeing much risk in blocking the IPv6 range for a longer time, so I'll softblock that one. For the IPv4, it looks like there would be a ton of collateral damage there so it would be a bad idea to block the whole thing. What I can do instead is break it into smaller ranges that exclude most of the legitimate edits, I can do <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.40.194.0/25" title="Special:Contributions/92.40.194.0/25">Special:Contributions/92.40.194.0/25</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.40.195.0/24" title="Special:Contributions/92.40.195.0/24">Special:Contributions/92.40.195.0/24</a>. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240807155300-Gotitbro-20240806072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 7 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240807155300-Gotitbro-20240806072900"><span 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Administrators may <a href="/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist" title="Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist">locally unblock</a> when appropriate.</li> <li>Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via <a href="/wiki/Special:GlobalVanishRequest" title="Special:GlobalVanishRequest">Special:GlobalVanishRequest</a>. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <ul><li>The Arbitration Committee <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1238795146#Conflict_of_interest_VRT_appointments,_July_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1238795146">appointed</a> the following administrators to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Conflict_of_interest_reports" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Conflict of interest reports">conflict of interest volunteer response team</a>: <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bilby">Bilby</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a></span></li></ul> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240806160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240806160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240806160000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_regarding_SPI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_regarding_SPI-20240809062700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_regarding_SPI-20240809062700"></span>Question regarding SPI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_regarding_SPI-20240809062700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Question regarding SPI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aintabli-20240809062700-Question_regarding_SPI"></span>Hi, I see that you've noted that sockpuppetry was a strong possibility in the recent report of AraxesTheThief, but without technical evidence (as CU was declined), you can't be confident to place a block. Can I rerequest CU on that basis, as declining it may potentially let long-term sockpuppetry pass, which you've noted as a strong possibility? <a href="/wiki/User:Aintabli" title="User:Aintabli">Aintabli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aintabli#top" title="User talk:Aintabli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Aintabli-20240809062700-Question_regarding_SPI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aintabli-20240809062700-Question_regarding_SPI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aintabli-20240809062700-Question_regarding_SPI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200-Aintabli-20240809062700"></span>Unfortunately that's not possible. All the known socks are already stale, so the Checkuser tool won't be able to provide any evidence which is why they already declined it. If there's future sock-like activity from that account or others, a new SPI can be opened and the new behavioral evidence can be evaluated as well. Or if their edits are disruptive, that can be handled through the normal channels. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200-Aintabli-20240809062700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200-Aintabli-20240809062700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200-Aintabli-20240809062700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aintabli-20240809135900-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200"></span>Oh okay. We'll have to wait and see then. Thank you for the explanation. It wasn't clear to me that CU wouldn't be useful either way. Wish you a great Friyay. <a href="/wiki/User:Aintabli" title="User:Aintabli">Aintabli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aintabli#top" title="User talk:Aintabli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Aintabli-20240809135900-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aintabli-20240809135900-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aintabli-20240809135900-The_Wordsmith-20240809132200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809153100-Aintabli-20240809135900"></span>Sadly the Checkuser tool is more limited than a lot of people think it is. Unless there's another account to compare it to that's edited en.wiki in the last 90 days, the tool is unlikely to show anything except maybe sleepers. After 90 days, IP data for logged-in accounts is generally discarded by WMF policy. For those, behavioral evidence is all we have to go on and we need to be confident in our findings to avoid blocking an innocent editor. Sometimes that unfortunately will result in illegitimate users avoiding blocks, but in my experience they often slip up and give us enough evidence to block sooner or later. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240809153100-Aintabli-20240809135900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809153100-Aintabli-20240809135900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240809153100-Aintabli-20240809135900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wisdom-inc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wisdom-inc-20240810210900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wisdom-inc-20240810210900"></span>Wisdom-inc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wisdom-inc-20240810210900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Wisdom-inc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-10mmsocket-20240810210900-Wisdom-inc"></span>Thanks for closing the Wisdom-inc SPI. He is still active today on one of the reported IP ranges - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/143.58.176.0/24" title="Special:Contributions/143.58.176.0/24">Special:Contributions/143.58.176.0/24</a> <a href="/wiki/User:10mmsocket" title="User:10mmsocket">10mmsocket</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:10mmsocket" title="User talk:10mmsocket">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-10mmsocket-20240810210900-Wisdom-inc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-10mmsocket-20240810210900-Wisdom-inc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-10mmsocket-20240810210900-Wisdom-inc"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thomas_Hope" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thomas_Hope-20240811055500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thomas_Hope-20240811055500"></span>Thomas Hope<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thomas_Hope-20240811055500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Thomas Hope"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20240811055500-Thomas_Hope"></span>I am happy to see you changed <a href="/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Britain" title="Kingdom of Great Britain">Great Britain</a> into US. A foolish mistake by a nitwit.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) 05:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC) Perhaps you can change <i>born in 1704</i> very childish.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) 05:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC) Also the category <i>1799 deaths</i> is a mistake.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Taksen-20240811055500-Thomas_Hope" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20240811055500-Thomas_Hope"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20240811055500-Thomas_Hope"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240812200300-Taksen-20240811055500"></span>I have no idea what this is about. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240812200300-Taksen-20240811055500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240812200300-Taksen-20240811055500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240812200300-Taksen-20240811055500"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20240814081600-Thomas_Hope"></span>Sorry, it is about <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Hope_(banker,_born_1704)" title="Thomas Hope (banker, born 1704)">Thomas Hope (banker, born 1704)</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Taksen-20240814081600-Thomas_Hope" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20240814081600-Thomas_Hope"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20240814081600-Thomas_Hope"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814185600-Taksen-20240814081600"></span>Oh, that was reverting a sockpuppet who was adding inaccuracies into articles (especially around estimated dates of birth/death). If you're willing to take responsibility for the edits, you're welcome to make the changes again. Though since Henry Hope's son (also named Henry Hope) was born in Massachusetts, it seems like him moving to the US is correct. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240814185600-Taksen-20240814081600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814185600-Taksen-20240814081600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814185600-Taksen-20240814081600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Massive_disruption" data-mw-thread-id="h-Massive_disruption-20240813033900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Massive_disruption-20240813033900"></span>Massive disruption<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Massive_disruption-20240813033900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Massive disruption"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ratnahastin-20240813033900-Massive_disruption"></span>Hi, can you have a look at these IP ranges? I think they belong to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Anujror" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anujror">Anujror</a> as they originated from the same geographical location(Pakistan) and have an obsession with manipulating the result of a page move discussion on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara_dynasty" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty">Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty</a> just like the last range that you blocked<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2402:ad80:130::/44">[13]</a>. </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.191.136.0/21" title="Special:Contributions/182.191.136.0/21">182.191.136.0/21</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1240026786/1240027507">see</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/116.71.12.0/23" title="Special:Contributions/116.71.12.0/23">116.71.12.0/23</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1239970153">see</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/94.20.88.173" title="Special:Contributions/94.20.88.173">94.20.88.173</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1239975689&oldid=1239846313&title=User_talk:Jdcomix">see</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.191.128.0/21" title="Special:Contributions/182.191.128.0/21">182.191.128.0/21</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1240023220">see</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/116.71.14.0/23" title="Special:Contributions/116.71.14.0/23">116.71.14.0/23</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1240024008">see</a> <span style="font-family:'forte'"><a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin"><span style="color:#A52A2A;">Ratnahastin</span></a> <b>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a>)</b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Ratnahastin-20240813033900-Massive_disruption" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ratnahastin-20240813033900-Massive_disruption"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ratnahastin-20240813033900-Massive_disruption"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ratnahastin-20240813035500-Ratnahastin-20240813033900"></span>Also if possible, can you please semi protect the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara_dynasty" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty">talk page</a> too? <span style="font-family:'forte'"><a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin"><span style="color:#A52A2A;">Ratnahastin</span></a> <b>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a>)</b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Ratnahastin-20240813035500-Ratnahastin-20240813033900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ratnahastin-20240813035500-Ratnahastin-20240813033900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ratnahastin-20240813035500-Ratnahastin-20240813033900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814004300-Ratnahastin-20240813035500"></span>I've applied semiprotection to the talkpage. Those IP edits are probably Anujror or a similar sock drawer, but they seem to be one-offs. Blocking them would probably not have any effect as he's probably already moved on, and it looks like there are a bunch of legitimate users on those ranges. Protection is usually the better option in cases like this. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240814004300-Ratnahastin-20240813035500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814004300-Ratnahastin-20240813035500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240814004300-Ratnahastin-20240813035500"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_14_August_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224900"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 14 August 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 14 August 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224900-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"></span>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In the media">Portland pol profile paid for from public purse</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Recent research">STORM: AI agents role-play as "Wikipedia editors" and "experts" to create Wikipedia-like articles, a more sophisticated effort than previous auto-generation systems</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In focus">Twitter marks the spot</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/News and notes">Another Wikimania has concluded.</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Special report">Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion">HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Traffic report">Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really <i>weird</i></a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Humour">I'm proud to be a template</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-08-14" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-08-14">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224900-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224900-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224900-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CaseofGoliath_SPI" data-mw-thread-id="h-CaseofGoliath_SPI-20240815174900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CaseofGoliath_SPI-20240815174900"></span>CaseofGoliath SPI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CaseofGoliath_SPI-20240815174900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: CaseofGoliath SPI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S0091-20240815174900-CaseofGoliath_SPI"></span>Hi The Wordsmith, did you review the evidence I sent to the en-paid queue regarding Elianaisaac? Link <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/TheCaseOfGoliath/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheCaseOfGoliath/Archive">WP:Sockpuppet investigations/TheCaseOfGoliath/Archive</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:S0091" title="User:S0091">S0091</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S0091" title="User talk:S0091">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-S0091-20240815174900-CaseofGoliath_SPI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S0091-20240815174900-CaseofGoliath_SPI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S0091-20240815174900-CaseofGoliath_SPI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500-S0091-20240815174900"></span>I don't have access to that queue, but whoever does is free to take action independently of SPI if they determine it is warranted. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500-S0091-20240815174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500-S0091-20240815174900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500-S0091-20240815174900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S0091-20240815181000-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500"></span>Ok. I wasn't sure if you had access of not. Because it was an open SPI with a CU request, I <i>think</i> they left it up to the CU to review (got a standard response a couple weeks ago before the check) but I will double check. I will be opening up a new one for new socks I found anyway but was waiting until the weekend in case I came across others and might include Elianaisaac again depending on the response I get. Thanks for all the work you do, The Wordsmith. <a href="/wiki/User:S0091" title="User:S0091">S0091</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S0091" title="User talk:S0091">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-S0091-20240815181000-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S0091-20240815181000-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S0091-20240815181000-The_Wordsmith-20240815175500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Christine-dark" data-mw-thread-id="h-Christine-dark-20240817021900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Christine-dark-20240817021900"></span>Christine-dark<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Christine-dark-20240817021900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Christine-dark"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Capitals00-20240817021900-Christine-dark"></span>CU is positive and so is behavioral evidence.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Oriental_Aristocrat#Suspected_sockpuppets">[14]</a> Hope you can block as soon as possible. <a href="/wiki/User:Capitals00" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Capitals00">Capitals00</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Capitals00" title="User talk:Capitals00">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Capitals00-20240817021900-Christine-dark" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Capitals00-20240817021900-Christine-dark"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Capitals00-20240817021900-Christine-dark"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240817041200-Capitals00-20240817021900"></span>Unfortunately SPI is extremely backlogged at the moment. 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The timing and nature of the IPs' actions seemed quite suspicious to me, even though there weren't many instances to point to. </p><p>(Also sorry about all the edits). <a href="/wiki/User:JSwift49" title="User:JSwift49">JSwift49</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-JSwift49-20240918211100-Re._future_sockpuppet_cases" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSwift49-20240918211100-Re._future_sockpuppet_cases"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSwift49-20240918211100-Re._future_sockpuppet_cases"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500-JSwift49-20240918211100"></span>The timing is questionable, but not enough by itself. As far as the thresholds for evidence, "more likely than not" is usually enough to at least open an SPI case for either an account or an IP. In addition, the sock or IP needs to actually be doing something forbidden in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BADSOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BADSOCK">WP:BADSOCK</a>, rather than something allowed in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOODSOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOODSOCK">WP:GOODSOCK</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EWLO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EWLO">WP:EWLO</a>. Administrators will do their own investigation or ask you for more evidence if needed, but for a positive conclusion the standard is <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">obvious beyond a reasonable doubt that sockpuppetry is occurring</q>. Essentially, if there's another reasonable explanation then we generally need to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a> in the absence of technical evidence.</dd> <dd>One other thing that filers don't often ask themselves before opening a case is "What is actually being gained by sockpuppetry here?" In this case, it was two minor rephrasings of a small amount of text, switching from a paraphrase to a quote. It doesn't seem controversial at all, especially in comparison to many of the other contested edits on that page. The IP also has a history of edits, which doesn't have any real overlap with Superb Owl. If he had (for example) been warned for edit warring or approached <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a> before the IP started editing, that would be much stronger evidence. As it stands, the more likely explanation is that two people have a similar opinion on how that information should be presented. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500-JSwift49-20240918211100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500-JSwift49-20240918211100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500-JSwift49-20240918211100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSwift49-20240919134100-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500"></span>Got it; appreciate the explanation. My rationale at the time was: I had thought the pattern of both IPs (cosmetic edits on random articles, but substantive edits seemingly only on the Electoral fraud or similarly politically charged articles) could be an obfuscation attempt. And I thought they would have something to gain from these edits, as we have devoted a lot of time to disputing phrasing in the article where differences seem relatively minor.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Superb_Owl/sandbox/fraud">[16]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:JSwift49" title="User:JSwift49">JSwift49</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-JSwift49-20240919134100-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSwift49-20240919134100-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSwift49-20240919134100-The_Wordsmith-20240918220500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPI_Asphonixm" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_Asphonixm-20240925071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_Asphonixm-20240925071800"></span>SPI Asphonixm<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_Asphonixm-20240925071800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: SPI Asphonixm"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ckfasdf-20240925071800-SPI_Asphonixm"></span>Hi, could you please review on my recent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Asphonixm" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Asphonixm">SPI report on Asphonixm</a>? If you don't have the time to do so, could you at least check whether the report was correctly opened? I'm a bit worried because I messed up the previous one, which was malformed and not properly opened. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Ckfasdf" title="User:Ckfasdf">Ckfasdf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ckfasdf" title="User talk:Ckfasdf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Ckfasdf-20240925071800-SPI_Asphonixm" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ckfasdf-20240925071800-SPI_Asphonixm"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ckfasdf-20240925071800-SPI_Asphonixm"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240925180100-Ckfasdf-20240925071800"></span>I don't have time to fully review the case right now, but it looks like it was opened properly. For the previous one, it was missing the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:SPI_case_status" title="Template:SPI case status">SPI case status</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. That template automatically adds it to the categories that put it on the SPI dashboards.</dd> <dd>Personally I think filing SPI cases by hand is too fiddly and unreliable, but it's a complex process so it has to be. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TWINKLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TWINKLE">WP:TWINKLE</a> has a module that fills in the case request for you; I use that so I don't have to deal with all the manual bits. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20240925180100-Ckfasdf-20240925071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20240925180100-Ckfasdf-20240925071800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20240925180100-Ckfasdf-20240925071800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_case_opened" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926122300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926122300"></span>Arbitration case opened<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926122300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Arbitration case opened"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20240926122300-Arbitration_case_opened"></span>You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion</a>. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Evidence" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Evidence">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Evidence</a>. <b>Please add your evidence by October 10, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes.</b> You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Workshop" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Workshop">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Workshop</a>. For a guide to the arbitration process, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Party_Guide/Introduction" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction">Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction</a>. 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font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-09-26" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-09-26">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201200-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201200-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201200-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span>RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span>Hi there! The trial of the <strong>RfA discussion-only period</strong> passed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA2024">WP:RFA2024</a> has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period</a></b>. Cheers, and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)-20240930062100"><span id="Draft_refund_for_Mayor.27s_Cup_.28Missouri.E2.80.93South_Carolina.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)-20240930062100"></span>Draft refund for <a href="/wiki/Mayor%27s_Cup_(Missouri%E2%80%93South_Carolina)" class="mw-redirect" title="Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)">Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)-20240930062100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Draft refund for Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PK-WIKI-20240930062100-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)"></span>Hello, you closed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayor%27s_Cup_(Missouri%E2%80%93South_Carolina)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)">Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)</a>. </p><p>I'm requesting a DRAFT of this article restored to <a href="/wiki/Draft:Mayor%27s_Cup_(Missouri%E2%80%93South_Carolina)" title="Draft:Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)">Draft:Mayor's Cup (Missouri–South Carolina)</a> for further development and the addition of new citations to establish notability of the trophy. Will move to article space only upon significant improvement to the article and ensuring it meets GNG. </p><p>Significant coverage of this trophy exists that was not discussed in any previous AFD: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1223188/2019/09/19/south-carolina-missouri-football-rivalry-who-needs-it-more/">New York Times / The Athletic, 2017</a></li></ul> <p>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:PK-WIKI" title="User:PK-WIKI">PK-WIKI</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PK-WIKI" title="User talk:PK-WIKI">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-PK-WIKI-20240930062100-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PK-WIKI-20240930062100-Draft_refund_for_Mayor's_Cup_(Missouri–South_Carolina)"><span 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class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections" title="Wikipedia:Administrator elections">Administrator elections</a> are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA">requests for adminship</a> (RfA). 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I think that should probably handle the disruption. Apologies (also to <a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>) if my SPI report was a little bit of a mess. The 1 week timeline at AfD puts some time pressure, but I should've at least requested CU. I'll try to do better next time! <a href="/wiki/User:Russ_Woodroofe" title="User:Russ Woodroofe">Russ Woodroofe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Russ_Woodroofe" title="User talk:Russ Woodroofe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300-Peter_Middlebrook" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300-Peter_Middlebrook"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300-Peter_Middlebrook"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20241011150500-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300"></span>No worries, SPI is a complicated process even for what should be a pretty straightforward case. You didn't do anything wrong with it! Your filing was fine (better than a lot that I see) and had all the evidence available. I think those accounts are either socks and or were canvassed by the article subject or someone very interested in them, but since the CU was negative the 1-2 edits from each don't give me enough behavioral evidence to prove it. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20241011150500-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20241011150500-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20241011150500-Russ_Woodroofe-20241011082300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPI_investigation_clarity" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_investigation_clarity-20241018074900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_investigation_clarity-20241018074900"></span>SPI investigation clarity<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_investigation_clarity-20241018074900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: SPI investigation clarity"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Originalmess-20241018074900-SPI_investigation_clarity"></span>Hi! Wondering if my earlier report on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Geminiwebchickenwing/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Geminiwebchickenwing/Archive">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Geminiwebchickenwing/Archive</a> before the last user's report was too detailed - it's the first one I'd submitted and felt like I might have overdone it! Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Originalmess" title="User:Originalmess"><span style="color:#09C"><span style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>originalmess</b></span></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Originalmess" title="User talk:Originalmess"><span style="color:#333">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-Originalmess-20241018074900-SPI_investigation_clarity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Originalmess-20241018074900-SPI_investigation_clarity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Originalmess-20241018074900-SPI_investigation_clarity"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Wordsmith-20241018160000-Originalmess-20241018074900"></span>No, I think your report had the right amount of detail. It gave the evidence I needed without me having to spend ages digging up evidence on my own. If all SPIs were that well done, there probably wouldn't be such a backlog at SPI. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Wordsmith" title="User:The Wordsmith"><b>The Wordsmith</b></a></span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small><i><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk to me</a></i></small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Wordsmith#c-The_Wordsmith-20241018160000-Originalmess-20241018074900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Wordsmith-20241018160000-Originalmess-20241018074900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Wordsmith-20241018160000-Originalmess-20241018074900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Originalmess-20241019223100-The_Wordsmith-20241018160000"></span>Ah, good to know! It took me a lot of time so it makes sense why there's such a backlog. 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href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1254983370#Administrator_Recall" title="Special:PermanentLink/1254983370">request for comment</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECALL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECALL">Administrator recall</a> is adopted as a policy.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span> <b>Technical news</b> </p> <ul><li>Mass deletions done with the <a href="/wiki/Special:Nuke" title="Special:Nuke">Nuke</a> tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. 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