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class="table-of-contents"> <li><a href="#RAGを用いた社内情報検索システムを導入した話いちかわさん">「RAGを用いた社内情報検索システムを導入した話」(いちかわさん)</a></li> <li><a href="#LLM勉強会のためにアプリを作ろうか悩んだけどDifyが解決してくれた話やまぐちさん">「LLM勉強会のためにアプリを作ろうか悩んだけど、Difyが解決してくれた話」（やまぐちさん）</a></li> <li><a href="#Azure-Prompt-FlowとRAGASを用いたRAGの精度評価の話いでみつさん">「Azure Prompt FlowとRAGASを用いたRAGの精度評価の話」（いでみつさん）</a></li> <li><a href="#RAGの簡易評価によるフィードバックサイクル実践Takeshi-Kondoさん">「RAGの簡易評価によるフィードバックサイクル実践」（Takeshi Kondoさん）</a></li> </ul> <h2 id="RAGを用いた社内情報検索システムを導入した話いちかわさん">「RAGを用いた社内情報検索システムを導入した話」(いちかわさん)</h2> <div class="profile-cards-list"> <div class="profile-card-container"> <section itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <div class="thumb"><img src="https://i.gyazo.com/1eaa1f4e544aa3f45f03ff97593c74bd.jpg" alt="" class="img" itemprop="image" width="400" height="400" loading="lazy"></div> <div class="prof-txt"> <p class="name" itemprop="name">いちかわ</p> <p class="work-history">株式会社助太刀ソフトウェアエンジニア</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://x.com/inu_shunta" itemprop="url" "="" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/f/findy-shimada/20240613/20240613152726.png" alt="X"></a></li> </ul> <p></p> </div></section> </div> </div> <p>Amazon Kendra・Amazon Bedrockを活用した、社内情報検索システムを構築した事例についての発表。</p> <p>システムは社員の約3分の2が使用し、ピーク時には月約70件の質問が実行される等、社員が必要な情報を迅速に取得できる環境を構築。<br> 一方で、検索速度の遅さや回答精度の不安定さといった技術的な課題、ユーザーがRAGの特性を十分に理解していないなどの運用上の課題も含めてお話しいただきました。</p> <p>導入してみての感想として<strong>「やりたいことに対して、そもそも今回の場合RAGを使う必要があったのかという疑問が浮かんだ」</strong>という、いちかわさん。<br> 今後は利用状況やコストを振り返り、新しい選択肢も検討しながらシステムの見直しを行なっていくそうです。</p> <div class="list-1"> <div>キーワード</div> <ul> <li>Amazon Kendra</li> <li>Amazon Bedrock</li> <li>回答精度</li> <li>検索速度</li> <li>ドキュメントの質</li> <li>運用ルール</li> </ul> </div> <iframe class="speakerdeck-embed" src="https://speakerdeck.com/player/5a4eced5fc1d4fc788be2b9f37e163d4" title="20240711_RAGを用いたシンプルな社内情報検索システムを導入した話とつらみ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" loading="lazy" style="aspect-ratio: 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