CINXE.COM

<!DOCTYPE html> <html dir="ltr" lang="de"> <head> <script async src="https://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-8024708164316945" crossorigin="anonymous"></script> <script async src="https://fundingchoicesmessages.google.com/i/pub-8024708164316945?ers=1" nonce="wlJYfnipnzNdjIBvL9eH-Q"></script><script nonce="wlJYfnipnzNdjIBvL9eH-Q">(function() {function signalGooglefcPresent() {if (!window.frames['googlefcPresent']) {if (document.body) {const iframe = document.createElement('iframe'); iframe.style = 'width: 0; height: 0; border: none; z-index: -1000; left: -1000px; top: -1000px;'; iframe.style.display = 'none'; iframe.name = 'googlefcPresent'; document.body.appendChild(iframe);} else {setTimeout(signalGooglefcPresent, 0);}}}signalGooglefcPresent();})();</script> <meta charset="utf-8" /> <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" /> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" /> <title>Agrarforum - Antwort erstellen</title> <script> function getCookie(name) { var re = new RegExp(name + "=([^;]+)"); var value = re.exec(document.cookie); return (value != null) ? unescape(value[1]) : 'no'; } if (getCookie('cky-consent') == 'yes' && getCookie('cookieyes-analytics') == 'yes') { // Enable my Analytics tracking as the analytics category consent and overall consent is granted // Add anlytics script here } </script> <style> .cky-consent-bar {top: 30% !important;z-index: 99999 !important;} .cky-btn{ min-width:122px; } .cky-consent-bar{ text-align: left !important; font-family: sans-serif !important; font-size:14px !important; color:#999999 !important; } .cky-consent-title{ display:inline-block !important; text-align: left !important; font-family: sans-serif !important; font-size:14px !important; color:#333333 !important; } .cky-tab-content-item{ text-align: left !important; font-family: sans-serif !important; font-size:14px !important; color:#999999 !important; } .cky-btn-readMore, .cky-btn-readMore:visited{ font-size:13px !important; color:#333333 !important; text-decoration:underline !important; } #cky-btn-readMore, #cky-btn-readMore:visited{ font-size:13px !important; color:#333333 !important; text-decoration:underline !important; } .cky-btn-accept{ border-radius: 8px !important; display:inline-block !important; background-color:#00963f !important; border:0px solid #00963f !important; padding:0px !important; padding-left:8px !important; padding-right:8px !important; margin:0px !important; height:30px !important; cursor:pointer; color:#ffffff !important; font-size:14px !important; font-weight:400 !important; text-decoration:none !important; font-family:sans-serif !important; font-style:normal !important; text-align:center !important; -webkit-appearance:none !important; } .cky-btn-settings{ border-radius: 8px !important; display:inline-block !important; background-color:#ffffff !important; border:1px solid #999999 !important; padding:0px !important; padding-left:8px !important; padding-right:8px !important; margin:0px !important; height:30px !important; cursor:pointer; color:#999999 !important; font-size:14px !important; font-weight:400 !important; text-decoration:none !important; font-family:sans-serif !important; font-style:normal !important; text-align:center !important; -webkit-appearance:none !important; margin-right:4px !important; } .cky-tab-menu{ background-color:#ffffff !important; } .cky-btn-custom-accept{ min-width:110px !important; border-radius: 4px !important; display:inline-block !important; background-color:#00963f !important; border:0px solid #00963f !important; padding:0px !important; padding-left:8px !important; padding-right:8px !important; margin:5px !important; height:28px !important; cursor:pointer; color:#ffffff !important; font-size:12px !important; font-weight:400 !important; text-decoration:none !important; font-family:sans-serif !important; font-style:normal !important; text-align:center !important; -webkit-appearance:none !important; } .cky-btn:hover, .cky-btn-custom-accept:hover{ background-color:#00963f !important; color:#ffffff !important; -webkit-appearance:none !important; } </style> <meta name="Audience" content="Alle"> <meta http-equiv="language" content="DE"> <meta name="Content-Language" CONTENT="de"> <meta name="Language" CONTENT="German, de, deutsch"> <meta name="Robots" content="INDEX,FOLLOW"> <meta name="REVISIT-AFTER" content="1 DAYS"> <meta name="resource-type" content="document" /> <meta name="distribution" content="global" /> <meta name="description" content="Agrarforum - Antwort erstellen" /> <meta name="keywords" content="Agrarforum, Antwort erstellen" /> <link rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="Feed - Agrarforum" href="/app.php/feed?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7"> <link rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="Feed - Alle Foren" href="/app.php/feed/forums?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7"> <link href="./assets/css/font-awesome.min.css?assets_version=26" rel="stylesheet"> <link href="./styles/basic_darkgreen/theme/stylesheet.css?assets_version=26" rel="stylesheet">   <script> var gaProperty = 'G-T5TKWM1N0H'; var disableStr = 'ga-disable-' + gaProperty; if (document.cookie.indexOf(disableStr + '=true') > -1) { window[disableStr] = true; } function gaOptout() { document.cookie = disableStr + '=true; expires=Thu, 31 Dec 2099 23:59:59 UTC; path=/'; window[disableStr] = true; } </script>  <script async data-cookieyes="cookieyes-analytics" src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=G-T5TKWM1N0H"></script> <script> window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-T5TKWM1N0H'); </script> </head> <body id="phpbb" class="nojs notouch section-posting ltr " data-online-text="Online"> <a id="top" class="top-anchor" accesskey="t"></a> <div id="page-header" class="page-width"> <div class="headerbar" role="banner"> <div class="inner"> <div style="padding-bottom:15px;width:auto"> <h1 style="color:#26783a;font-size:24px;">Agrarforum</h1> <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.agrarforum.de/">Home</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de" target="_blank">Proplanta</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Agrar-Service" target="_blank">Service</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Kontakt" target="_blank">Kontakt</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Mediadaten" target="_blank">Mediadaten</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Newsletter" target="_blank">Newsletter</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Impressum" target="_blank">Impressum</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Datenschutz" target="_blank">Datenschutz</a> | <a class="aMenueobenlinks" href="https://www.proplanta.de/Nutzungsbedingungen" target="_blank">Nutzungsbedingungen</a> </div> <div id="site-description" class="site-description"> <a id="logo" class="logo" href="./index.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Foren-Übersicht"><img src="./styles/basic_darkgreen/theme/images/logo.png" data-src-hd="./styles/basic_darkgreen/theme/images/logo_hd.png" alt="Agrarforum"/></a> <p class="sitename">Agrarforum</p> <p></p> <p class="skiplink"><a href="#start_here">Zum Inhalt</a></p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="navbar tabbed not-static" role="navigation"> <div class="inner page-width"> <div class="nav-tabs" data-current-page="posting"> <ul class="leftside"> <li id="quick-links" class="quick-links tab responsive-menu dropdown-container"> <a href="#" class="nav-link dropdown-trigger">Schnellzugriff</a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <ul class="dropdown-contents" role="menu"> <li class="separator"></li> <li> <a href="./search.php?search_id=unanswered&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-file-o fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Unbeantwortete Themen</span> </a> </li> <li> <a href="./search.php?search_id=active_topics&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-file-o fa-fw icon-blue" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Aktive Themen</span> </a> </li> <li class="separator"></li> <li> <a href="./search.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-search fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Suche</span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> </li> <li class="tab forums selected" data-responsive-class="small-icon icon-forums"> <a class="nav-link" href="./index.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">Foren</a> </li> <li class="tab members dropdown-container" data-select-match="member" data-responsive-class="small-icon icon-members"> <a class="nav-link dropdown-trigger" href="./memberlist.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">Mitglieder</a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <ul class="dropdown-contents" role="menu"> <li> <a href="./memberlist.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-group fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Mitglieder</span> </a> </li> <li> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=team&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-shield fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Das Team</span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="rightside" role="menu"> <li class="tab faq" data-select-match="faq" data-responsive-class="small-icon icon-faq"> <a class="nav-link" href="/app.php/help/faq?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" rel="help" title="Häufig gestellte Fragen" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-question-circle fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>FAQ</span> </a> </li> <li class="tab login" data-skip-responsive="true" data-select-match="login"><a class="nav-link" href="./ucp.php?mode=login&redirect=posting.php%3Fmode%3Dquote%26p%3D4202&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Anmelden" accesskey="x" role="menuitem">Anmelden</a></li> <li class="tab register" data-skip-responsive="true" data-select-match="register"><a class="nav-link" href="./ucp.php?mode=register&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem">Registrieren</a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <div class="navbar secondary with-search"> <ul role="menubar"> <li class="small-icon icon-search responsive-hide"><a href="./search.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">Suche</a></li> <li class="small-icon icon-login"><a href="./ucp.php?mode=login&redirect=posting.php%3Fmode%3Dquote%26p%3D4202&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Anmelden">Anmelden</a></li> <li class="small-icon icon-register"><a href="./ucp.php?mode=register&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">Registrieren</a></li> <li class="search-box not-responsive"> <div id="search-box" class="search-box search-header" role="search"> <form action="./search.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" method="get" id="search"> <fieldset> <input name="keywords" id="keywords" type="search" maxlength="128" title="Suche nach Wörtern" class="inputbox search tiny" size="20" value="" placeholder="Suche…" /> <button class="button button-search" type="submit" title="Suche"> <i class="icon fa-search fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Suche</span> </button> <a href="./search.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" class="button button-search-end" title="Erweiterte Suche"> <i class="icon fa-cog fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Erweiterte Suche</span> </a> <input type="hidden" name="sid" value="70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" /> </fieldset> </form> </div> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="wrap" class="page-width"> <a id="start_here" class="anchor"></a> <div id="page-body" class="page-body" role="main"> <div class="navbar"> <ul id="nav-breadcrumbs" class="nav-breadcrumbs linklist navlinks" role="menubar"> <li class="breadcrumbs"> <span class="crumb" itemtype="http://data-vocabulary.org/Breadcrumb" itemscope=""><a href="./index.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" accesskey="h" data-navbar-reference="index" itemprop="url"><i class="icon fa-home fa-fw"></i><span itemprop="title">Foren-Übersicht</span></a></span> <span class="crumb" itemtype="http://data-vocabulary.org/Breadcrumb" itemscope="" data-forum-id="1"><a href="./-f1/?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" itemprop="url"><span itemprop="title"></span></a></span> <span class="crumb" itemtype="http://data-vocabulary.org/Breadcrumb" itemscope="" data-forum-id="20"><a href="./-f20/?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" itemprop="url"><span itemprop="title"></span></a></span> <span class="crumb" itemtype="http://data-vocabulary.org/Breadcrumb" itemscope="" data-forum-id="21"><a href="./verbrauch-versorgung-f21/?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" itemprop="url"><span itemprop="title"></span></a></span> </li> <li class="rightside responsive-search"> <a href="./search.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Zeigt die erweiterten Suchoptionen an" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-search fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Suche</span> </a> </li> <li class="rightside dropdown-container icon-only"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger time" title="Aktuelle Zeit: Mo 30. Dez 2024, 02:00"><i class="fa fa-clock-o"></i></a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <ul class="dropdown-contents"> <li>Aktuelle Zeit: Mo 30. Dez 2024, 02:00</li> <li>Alle Zeiten sind <span title="UTC+2">UTC+02:00</span></li> </ul> </div> </li> </ul> </div> <h2 class="posting-title"><a href="./viewtopic.php?t=2466&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">Außenkamin bauen?</a></h2> <form id="postform" method="post" action="./posting.php?mode=quote&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7&p=4202"> <div class="panel" id="postingbox"> <div class="inner"> <h3>Antwort erstellen</h3> <fieldset class="fields1"> <dl style="clear: left;"> <dt><label for="username">Benutzername:</label></dt> <dd><input type="text" tabindex="1" name="username" id="username" size="25" value="" class="inputbox autowidth" /></dd> </dl> <dl> <dt><label for="email">E-Mail-Adresse:</label></dt> <dd><input type="email" tabindex="2" name="email" id="email" size="25" maxlength="100" value="" class="inputbox autowidth" title="E-Mail-Adresse" /></dd> </dl> <dl style="clear: left;"> <dt><label for="subject">Betreff:</label></dt> <dd> <input type="text" name="subject" id="subject" size="45" maxlength="124" tabindex="2" value="Re: Außenkamin bauen?" class="inputbox autowidth" /> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dt><label for="confirm_code">Bestätigungscode:</label></dt> <dd class="captcha captcha-image"><img src="./ucp.php?mode=confirm&confirm_id=0c0db1820facb7b7c44a54d09c128f39&type=3&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" alt="Bestätigungscode" /></dd> <dd><input type="text" name="confirm_code" id="confirm_code" size="8" maxlength="8" tabindex="3" class="inputbox narrow" title="Bestätigungscode" /> <input type="hidden" name="confirm_id" id="confirm_id" value="0c0db1820facb7b7c44a54d09c128f39" /></dd> <dd>Gib den Code genau so ein, wie du ihn siehst; Groß- und Kleinschreibung wird nicht unterschieden.</dd> </dl> <script> var form_name = 'postform'; var text_name = 'message'; var load_draft = false; var upload = false; // Define the bbCode tags var bbcode = new Array(); var bbtags = new Array('[b]','[/b]','[i]','[/i]','[u]','[/u]','[quote]','[/quote]','[code]','[/code]','[list]','[/list]','[list=]','[/list]','[img]','[/img]','[url]','[/url]','[flash=]', '[/flash]','[size=]','[/size]', '[album]', '[/album]'); var imageTag = false; // Helpline messages var help_line = { b: 'Fett\u003A\u0020\u005Bb\u005DText\u005B\/b\u005D', i: 'Kursiv\u003A\u0020\u005Bi\u005DText\u005B\/i\u005D', u: 'Unterstrichen\u003A\u0020\u005Bu\u005DText\u005B\/u\u005D', q: 'Zitat\u003A\u0020\u005Bquote\u005DText\u005B\/quote\u005D', c: 'Code\u0020anzeigen\u003A\u0020\u005Bcode\u005DCode\u005B\/code\u005D', l: 'Aufz\u00E4hlung\u003A\u0020\u005Blist\u005D\u005B\u002A\u005DText\u005B\/list\u005D', o: 'Geordnete\u0020Aufz\u00E4hlung\u003A\u0020z.\u0026nbsp\u003BB.\u0020\u005Blist\u003D1\u005D\u005B\u002A\u005DErster\u0020Punkt\u005B\/list\u005D\u0020oder\u0020\u005Blist\u003Da\u005D\u005B\u002A\u005DPunkt\u0020a\u005B\/list\u005D', p: 'Bild\u0020einf\u00FCgen\u003A\u0020\u005Bimg\u005Dhttp\u003A\/\/bild_url\u005B\/img\u005D', w: 'Link\u0020einf\u00FCgen\u003A\u0020\u005Burl\u005Dhttp\u003A\/\/url\u005B\/url\u005D\u0020oder\u0020\u005Burl\u003Dhttp\u003A\/\/url\u005DLinktext\u005B\/url\u005D', a: 'Eingebetteter\u0020Dateianhang\u003A\u0020\u005Battachment\u003D\u005Ddateiname.erw\u005B\/attachment\u005D', s: 'Schriftfarbe\u003A\u0020\u005Bcolor\u003Dred\u005DText\u005B\/color\u005D\u0020oder\u0020\u005Bcolor\u003D\u0023FF0000\u005DText\u005B\/color\u005D', f: 'Schriftgr\u00F6\u00DFe\u003A\u0020\u005Bsize\u003D85\u005Dkleiner\u0020Text\u005B\/size\u005D', y: 'Aufz\u00E4hlung\u003A\u0020Listenelement\u0020hinzuf\u00FCgen', d: 'Flash\u003A\u0020\u005Bflash\u003DBreite,H\u00F6he\u005Dhttp\u003A\/\/url\u005B\/flash\u005D' ,cb_22: '' } function change_palette() { phpbb.toggleDisplay('colour_palette'); e = document.getElementById('colour_palette'); if (e.style.display == 'block') { document.getElementById('bbpalette').value = 'Schriftfarbe\u0020ausblenden'; } else { document.getElementById('bbpalette').value = 'Schriftfarbe'; } } </script> <div id="smiley-box" class="smiley-box"> <strong>Smilies</strong><br /> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':D', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':)', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":)" title="Smile" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(';)', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=";)" title="Wink" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':(', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":(" title="Sad" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':o', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':shock:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':?', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":?" title="Confused" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text('8-)', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" width="15" height="17" alt="8-)" title="Cool" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':lol:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':x', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_mad.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":x" title="Mad" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':P', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":P" title="Razz" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':oops:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":oops:" title="Embarrassed" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':cry:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_cry.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very Sad" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':evil:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':twisted:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':roll:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':!:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':?:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_question.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":?:" title="Question" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':idea:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':arrow:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":arrow:" title="Arrow" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':|', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":|" title="Neutral" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':mrgreen:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':geek:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif" width="17" height="17" alt=":geek:" title="Geek" /></a> <a href="#" onclick="insert_text(':ugeek:', true); return false;"><img src="./images/smilies/icon_e_ugeek.gif" width="17" height="18" alt=":ugeek:" title="Uber Geek" /></a> <div class="bbcode-status"> <hr /> <a href="/app.php/help/bbcode?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7">BBCode</a> ist <em>ausgeschaltet</em><br /> Smilies sind <em>eingeschaltet</em> </div> <hr /> <strong><a href="#review">Die letzten Beiträge des Themas</a></strong> </div> <div id="message-box" class="message-box"> <textarea name="message" id="message" rows="15" cols="76" tabindex="4" onselect="storeCaret(this);" onclick="storeCaret(this);" onkeyup="storeCaret(this);" onfocus="initInsertions();" class="inputbox">U.Ehrlich hat geschrieben: > Hallo, > > sind gerade am überlegen ob wir noch vor dem Winter einen Außenkamin bauen > lassen und die 3 Wohnungen dann über 2 Kamine heizen sollen. Der > Schornsteinfeger war auch schon hier und hat gemeint, dass er für den > Außenkamin mit 2 Kernbohrungen für 2 Anschlüsse ca. 2750 € will. Ist der > Preis int Ordnugn oder gehts auch günstiger. Weiterhin würde mich > interessieren welchen Kaminofen ihr empfehlen könnt. Waren jetzt schon bei > Hark, allerdings lese ich im Internet ganz grauenvolle Berichte über diese > Firma. Hase macht mir einen soliden Eindruck, ist aber auch ganz schön > teuer. Was lohnt sich noch, bzw. kann man auch in den Baumarkt? Taugt der > Ratgeber auf der Seite aussenkamin.net etwas? Meine Mutter hat eine 55 m² > große Wohnung und wir so ca. 160 m². Da brauchen wir doch sicherlich > unterschiedliche KW-Leistungen oder? > > Grüße </textarea> </div> </fieldset> </div> </div> <div class="panel bg2"> <div class="inner"> <fieldset class="submit-buttons"> <input type="hidden" name="topic_cur_post_id" value="4202" /> <input type="submit" tabindex="5" name="preview" value="Vorschau" class="button1" onclick="document.getElementById('postform').action += '#preview';" />  <input type="submit" accesskey="s" tabindex="6" name="post" value="Absenden" class="button1 default-submit-action" />  </fieldset> </div> </div> <div id="tabs" class="tabs sub-panels" data-show-panel="options-panel" role="tablist"> <ul> <li id="options-panel-tab" class="tab activetab"><a href="#tabs" data-subpanel="options-panel" role="tab" aria-controls="options-panel"><span>Optionen</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="panel bg3" id="options-panel"> <div class="inner"> <fieldset class="fields1"> <div><label for="disable_smilies"><input type="checkbox" name="disable_smilies" id="disable_smilies" /> Smilies ausschalten</label></div> <div><label for="disable_magic_url"><input type="checkbox" name="disable_magic_url" id="disable_magic_url" /> URLs nicht automatisch verlinken</label></div> </fieldset> <input type="hidden" name="show_panel" value="options-panel" /> <input type="hidden" name="creation_time" value="1735516840" /> <input type="hidden" name="form_token" value="d2b2ad79cc910c6339b064fa9e456766a99830a4" /> </div> </div> <h3 id="review" class="review"> <span class="right-box"><a href="#review" onclick="viewableArea(getElementById('topicreview'), true); var rev_text = getElementById('review').getElementsByTagName('a').item(0).firstChild; if (rev_text.data == 'Ansicht\u0020erweitern'){rev_text.data = 'Zusammenklappen'; } else if (rev_text.data == 'Zusammenklappen'){rev_text.data = 'Ansicht\u0020erweitern'};">Ansicht erweitern</a></span> Die letzten Beiträge des Themas: Außenkamin bauen? </h3> <div id="topicreview" class="topicreview"> <script> bbcodeEnabled = 0; </script> <div class="post bg2"> <div class="inner"> <div class="postbody" id="pr4202"> <h3><a href="#pr4202">Außenkamin bauen?</a></h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="#postingbox" onclick="addquote(4202, 'U.Ehrlich', 'hat\u0020geschrieben', {post_id:4202,time:1501579451,user_id:1086});" title="Zitat U.Ehrlich" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitat U.Ehrlich</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=4202&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7#p4202" title=""> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only"></span> </a> von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1086&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" class="username">U.Ehrlich</a></strong> » Di 1. Aug 2017, 11:24 </p> <div class="content">Hallo,<br> <br> sind gerade am überlegen ob wir noch vor dem Winter einen Außenkamin bauen lassen und die 3 Wohnungen dann über 2 Kamine heizen sollen. Der Schornsteinfeger war auch schon hier und hat gemeint, dass er für den Außenkamin mit 2 Kernbohrungen für 2 Anschlüsse ca. 2750 € will. Ist der Preis int Ordnugn oder gehts auch günstiger. Weiterhin würde mich interessieren welchen Kaminofen ihr empfehlen könnt. Waren jetzt schon bei Hark, allerdings lese ich im Internet ganz grauenvolle Berichte über diese Firma. Hase macht mir einen soliden Eindruck, ist aber auch ganz schön teuer. Was lohnt sich noch, bzw. kann man auch in den Baumarkt? Taugt der Ratgeber auf der Seite aussenkamin.net etwas? Meine Mutter hat eine 55 m² große Wohnung und wir so ca. 160 m². Da brauchen wir doch sicherlich unterschiedliche KW-Leistungen oder?<br> <br> Grüße</div> <div id="message_4202" style="display: none;">Hallo,<br /><br />sind gerade am überlegen ob wir noch vor dem Winter einen Außenkamin bauen lassen und die 3 Wohnungen dann über 2 Kamine heizen sollen. Der Schornsteinfeger war auch schon hier und hat gemeint, dass er für den Außenkamin mit 2 Kernbohrungen für 2 Anschlüsse ca. 2750 € will. Ist der Preis int Ordnugn oder gehts auch günstiger. Weiterhin würde mich interessieren welchen Kaminofen ihr empfehlen könnt. Waren jetzt schon bei Hark, allerdings lese ich im Internet ganz grauenvolle Berichte über diese Firma. Hase macht mir einen soliden Eindruck, ist aber auch ganz schön teuer. Was lohnt sich noch, bzw. kann man auch in den Baumarkt? Taugt der Ratgeber auf der Seite aussenkamin.net etwas? Meine Mutter hat eine 55 m² große Wohnung und wir so ca. 160 m². Da brauchen wir doch sicherlich unterschiedliche KW-Leistungen oder?<br /><br />Grüße</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <hr /> <p> <a href="#postingbox" class="top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Nach oben</span> </a> </p> </form> <center> <script async src="//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js"></script>  <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:block" data-ad-client="ca-pub-8024708164316945" data-ad-slot="1574830618" data-ad-format="auto" data-full-width-responsive="true"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> <br><br> </center> </div> <div class="navbar" role="navigation"> <div class="inner"> <ul id="nav-footer" class="nav-footer linklist" role="menubar"> <li class="breadcrumbs"> <span class="crumb"><a href="./index.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" data-navbar-reference="index"><i class="icon fa-home fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Foren-Übersicht</span></a></span> </li> <li class="rightside">Alle Zeiten sind <span title="UTC+2">UTC+02:00</span></li> <li class="rightside"> <a href="./ucp.php?mode=delete_cookies&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" data-ajax="true" data-refresh="true" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-trash fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Alle Cookies löschen</span> </a> </li> <li class="rightside" data-last-responsive="true"> <a href="./memberlist.php?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Zeigt eine vollständige Liste aller Mitglieder an" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-group fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Mitglieder</span> </a> </li> <li class="rightside" data-last-responsive="true"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=team&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-shield fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Das Team</span> </a> </li> <li class="rightside" data-last-responsive="true"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=contactadmin&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" role="menuitem"> <i class="icon fa-envelope fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span>Kontakt</span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <div id="page-footer" class="page-width" role="contentinfo"> <div class="copyright"> <p class="footer-row"> <span class="footer-copyright">Powered by <a href="https://www.phpbb.com/">phpBB</a>® Forum Software © phpBB Limited</span> </p> <p class="footer-row"> <span class="footer-copyright">Style von <a href="http://www.artodia.com/">Arty</a> - Aktualisieren phpBB 3.2 von MrGaby</span> </p> <p class="footer-row"> <span class="footer-copyright">Deutsche Übersetzung durch <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/">phpBB.de</a></span> </p> <p class="footer-row"> <a class="footer-link" href="./ucp.php?mode=privacy&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Datenschutz" role="menuitem"> <span class="footer-link-text">Datenschutz</span> </a> | <a class="footer-link" href="./ucp.php?mode=terms&sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" title="Nutzungsbedingungen" role="menuitem"> <span class="footer-link-text">Nutzungsbedingungen</span> </a> </p> </div> <div id="darkenwrapper" class="darkenwrapper" data-ajax-error-title="AJAX-Fehler" data-ajax-error-text="Bei der Verarbeitung deiner Anfrage ist ein Fehler aufgetreten." data-ajax-error-text-abort="Der Benutzer hat die Anfrage abgebrochen." data-ajax-error-text-timeout="Bei deiner Anfrage ist eine Zeitüberschreitung aufgetreten. Bitte versuche es erneut." data-ajax-error-text-parsererror="Bei deiner Anfrage ist etwas falsch gelaufen und der Server hat eine ungültige Antwort zurückgegeben."> <div id="darken" class="darken"> </div> </div> <div id="phpbb_alert" class="phpbb_alert" data-l-err="Fehler" data-l-timeout-processing-req="Bei der Anfrage ist eine Zeitüberschreitung aufgetreten."> <a href="#" class="alert_close"> </a> <h3 class="alert_title"> </h3><p class="alert_text"></p> </div> <div id="phpbb_confirm" class="phpbb_alert"> <a href="#" class="alert_close"> </a> <div class="alert_text"></div> </div> </div> <div> <a id="bottom" class="anchor" accesskey="z"></a> <img src="/app.php/cron/cron.task.core.tidy_sessions?sid=70281eee36aefe086c773d20418637b7" width="1" height="1" alt="cron" /></div> <script type="text/javascript" src="./assets/javascript/jquery-3.6.0.min.js?assets_version=26"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="./assets/javascript/core.js?assets_version=26"></script> <script> (function($) { // Avoid conflicts with other libraries 'use strict'; phpbb.addAjaxCallback('reporttosfs', function(data) { if (data.postid !== "undefined") { $('#sfs' + data.postid).hide(); phpbb.closeDarkenWrapper(5000); } }); })(jQuery); </script> <script src="./assets/javascript/editor.js?assets_version=26"></script> <script src="./styles/basic/template/forum_fn.js?assets_version=26"></script> <script src="./styles/basic/template/ajax.js?assets_version=26"></script> </body> </html>