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Hence, it should not be surprising that the<br />> rules imposed by the US Government might be different for Huawei<br />> compared to other sanctioned entities that are directly or indirectly<br />> controlled by the Russian Military-Industrial complex.<br /><br />I wonder some of Ukrainian misiles and drones might also be using<br />the embedded Linux controllers, and why aren't there any sanctions.<br />This cannot be used as an excuse.<br /><br />What LF and Linus done will inevitably create a climate of fear where<br />contributors and maintainers from the *Countries of Particular Concern*<br />feels endangered.<br /><br />This is clearly NOT what contributors truly want. People from around the world<br />once firmly believed that Linux was a free and open-source project. However, <br />Greg's commit and Linus' response deeply disappoint them.<br /><br />Open-source projects might be international, but the people or organizations<br />controlling them are not. This is the source of concern and disappointment.<br /><br />> Of course, if China were to militarily attack Taiwan or some other<br />> country in Asia, circumstances might change at some point in the<br />> future. Hopefully Chinese leaders will pursue a path of wisdom and<br />> those consequences won't come to pass. Ultimately, though, that's not<br />> up to any of us on this mail thread.<br /><br />Finally, I must point out that Taiwan's status as part of China has never<br />changed and will never change. The term "military attack" is therefore<br />**inappropriate**. The move to solve the Taiwan question and achieve<br />China's reunification is coming soon and before that China must make full<br />preparation for the upcoming *sanctions* from the U.S. government, including<br />handling the issue of high dependence on any international open-source<br />projects.<br /><br /></pre></td><td width="32" rowspan="2" class="c" valign="top"><img src="/images/icornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom"> 聽 </td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerl.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td><td class="c">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="/" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"> 聽 </td><td class="lm">Last update: 2024-10-24 20:21 聽聽 [from the cache]<br />漏2003-2020 <a href="http://blog.jasper.es/"><span itemprop="editor">Jasper Spaans</span></a>|hosted at <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=9a8e99d24cf9">Digital Ocean</a> and my Meterkast|<a href="http://blog.jasper.es/categories.html#lkml-ref">Read the blog</a></td><td>聽</td></tr></table><script language="javascript" src="/js/styleswitcher.js" type="text/javascript"></script></body></html>