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Aren't religious traditions great? <a href="/wiki/User:Kpalion" title="User:Kpalion">Kpalion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Kpalion-2007-01-25T18:32:00.000Z-Worship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kpalion-2007-01-25T18:32:00.000Z-Worship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kpalion-2007-01-25T18:32:00.000Z-Worship"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yuiuhbiu-2007-01-31T18:00:00.000Z-Worship"></span>If the article was about Mardi Gras in New Orleans, I would agree. But I have never experienced Fat Thursday as such a bacchanalia. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yuiuhbiu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yuiuhbiu (page does not exist)">Yuiuhbiu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Yuiuhbiu-2007-01-31T18:00:00.000Z-Worship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yuiuhbiu-2007-01-31T18:00:00.000Z-Worship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yuiuhbiu-2007-01-31T18:00:00.000Z-Worship"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clarify_meaning,_please!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clarify_meaning,_please!-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"><span id="Clarify_meaning.2C_please.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clarify_meaning,_please!-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"></span>Clarify meaning, please!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clarify_meaning,_please!-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Clarify meaning, please!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span>From the first sentence: "a traditional Polish and German feast marking the last Thursday before Lent (because Lent is fast time such opportunity arrives on Easter)." The part in parentheses makes no sense and I don't understand what the author was actually trying to say. <a href="/wiki/User:JoshieTV" title="User:JoshieTV">JoshieTV</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"></span>According to the history, that parenthetical note was added on 21 April 2006 by an anonymous user. I just left a note on their talk page <a href="/wiki/User_talk:193.0.96.15" title="User talk:193.0.96.15">User talk:193.0.96.15</a>, asking for clarification. If we don't get any response, I think it would be reasonable to delete it from the article and just let the question remain on this discussion page. ~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Mpwrmnt" title="User:Mpwrmnt">Mpwrmnt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z-JoshieTV-2007-02-15T01:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z"></span>I was going to comment on the same thing. I am sure it is trying to say something about no feast till Easter. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Beardo" title="User:Beardo">Beardo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-15T06:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z"></span>I suppose this is what the author meant, but it's irrelevant (there's a link to <a href="/wiki/Lent" title="Lent">Lent</a>, so you can learn from there that is's a period of fasting), so I deleted it. — <a href="/wiki/User:Kpalion" title="User:Kpalion">Kpalion</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kpalion" title="User talk:Kpalion">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z-Beardo-2007-02-15T06:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-16T12:04:00.000Z-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z"></span>Hmmm... so you did! But it appears that when you restored the <i>See Also</i> you also restored said parenthetical phrase! <g> Anyway, subsequently several of us have put some effort into making the sentence meaningful & I think it's close to being good! ~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Mpwrmnt" title="User:Mpwrmnt">Mpwrmnt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-16T12:04:00.000Z-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-16T12:04:00.000Z-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mpwrmnt-2007-02-16T12:04:00.000Z-Kpalion-2007-02-15T09:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PurpleChez-2008-01-31T17:22:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span>I'm not clear on why Fat Thursday is the last day to feast before Easter. Friday has always been a day of pennance in many traditional Christian faiths. And Sunday, in many cultures, is supposed to be about worship and introspection, rather than a holiday or a day off. But what about Saturday, Monday, and (of course) Fat Tuesday? It would appear that no one has told the folks in New Orleans that their last day to party was the preceeding Thursday. I seem to recall reading that in some of the Orthodox churches Lent not only begins at a slightly different time of year (some times at least...due to their use of the Julian calendar and the concept of "liturgical" equinox) but also on a different day of the week (i.e. not Wednesday). Could this be tied into that? Just call me a calendar geek. <a href="/wiki/User:PurpleChez" title="User:PurpleChez">PurpleChez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PurpleChez" title="User talk:PurpleChez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-PurpleChez-2008-01-31T17:22:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PurpleChez-2008-01-31T17:22:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PurpleChez-2008-01-31T17:22:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2019-02-22T21:35:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span>I agree - 11 years later! I will revise that sentence. I wonder, but have no proof and will not use it, if it is a result of the Russian and hence Orthodox presence in Poland and Austrian Germany. the Greeks have their Tsikno Thursday. Anyways, yes, it has to be modified. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richardson_mcphillips&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richardson mcphillips (page does not exist)">Richardson mcphillips</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richardson_mcphillips" title="User talk:Richardson mcphillips">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Richardson_mcphillips-2019-02-22T21:35:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2019-02-22T21:35:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2019-02-22T21:35:00.000Z-Clarify_meaning,_please!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spain" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spain-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spain-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z"></span>Spain<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spain-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Spain"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alex1011-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z-Spain"></span>I think, these are also fat Thursdays (in Spain): </p><p><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijous_gras" class="extiw" title="ca:Dijous gras">ca:Dijous gras</a> <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jueves_Lardero" class="extiw" title="es:Jueves Lardero">es:Jueves Lardero</a> </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Alex1011" title="User:Alex1011">Alex1011</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alex1011" title="User talk:Alex1011">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Alex1011-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z-Spain" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alex1011-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z-Spain"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alex1011-2008-01-31T12:13:00.000Z-Spain"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hamtramck" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hamtramck-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hamtramck-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z"></span>Hamtramck<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hamtramck-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Hamtramck"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-166.102.22.76-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z-Hamtramck"></span>Is the last day of feasting, Fat Thursday, during the week previous to Ash Wednesday, or is it the day after Ash Wednesday? If it is during the preceeding week, then what do the observant eat from that Thursday on through Ash Wednesday (is the fast actually longer than the 40 days of Lent)? If Fat Thursday is the day after Ash Wednesday, which is the first day of the Lenten Fast, does that mean that the observant can break their fast, briefly, the day after Ash Wednesday? I grew up in thePolish neighborhood, Hamtramck, and I've never heard of Fat Thursday. We always ate paczki on Paczki Day, which is the same day as Fat Tuesday. I think the author made a mistake. Neil Thomas <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/166.102.22.76" title="Special:Contributions/166.102.22.76">166.102.22.76</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:166.102.22.76&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:166.102.22.76 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-166.102.22.76-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z-Hamtramck" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-166.102.22.76-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z-Hamtramck"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-166.102.22.76-2008-02-05T13:34:00.000Z-Hamtramck"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"" data-mw-thread-id="h-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z"><span id="There_is_no_such_thing_as_.22Fat_Thursday.22_only_.22Fat_Tuesday.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z"></span>There is no such thing as "Fat Thursday" only "Fat Tuesday"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: There is no such thing as "Fat Thursday" only "Fat Tuesday""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kpalion-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span>With all due respect, I am Polish and I know what we celebrate. The Polish people DO NOT celebrate "Fat Thursday", there is no such thing. Paczkis are eaten on "Fat Tuesday". I challenge you to find anyone who is celebrating "Fat Thursday". The dates listed in this article are in error. Jedam 17:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe Polish-Americans eat "paczkis" on Fat Tuesday, but Poles here in Poland eat pączki on Tłusty Czwartek, i.e. Fat Thursday. — <a href="/wiki/User:Kpalion" title="User:Kpalion">Kpalion</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kpalion" title="User talk:Kpalion">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Kpalion-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kpalion-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kpalion-2009-02-18T08:11:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-123abcdoreme2-2009-02-19T20:07:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span>pownage... <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:123abcdoreme2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:123abcdoreme2 (page does not exist)">123abcdoreme2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:123abcdoreme2" title="User talk:123abcdoreme2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-123abcdoreme2-2009-02-19T20:07:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-123abcdoreme2-2009-02-19T20:07:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-123abcdoreme2-2009-02-19T20:07:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kpalion-2009-02-21T14:55:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span>I humbly stand corrected! In all my long years, I had never heard any Polish family, friends, or relatives mention "Fat Thursday"; it has always been "Fat Tuesday". (How far does this celebration actually date back?) This experience has taught me a valuable lesson about patience and discernment. I apologize. You have all been very patient and understanding. Thank you. PS - "pownage" is a new one for me, I had to look it up: "implies domination or humiliation of a rival". Ouch! Therese Jedam 00:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>I don't think anybody has been "powned" here. It's actually interesting how some traditions that were brought by Polish immigrants over to America decades ago have evolved in isolation and eventually diverged from the customs observed back in the "old country". — <a href="/wiki/User:Kpalion" title="User:Kpalion">Kpalion</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kpalion" title="User talk:Kpalion">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Kpalion-2009-02-21T14:55:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kpalion-2009-02-21T14:55:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kpalion-2009-02-21T14:55:00.000Z-There_is_no_such_thing_as_"Fat_Thursday"_only_"Fat_Tuesday""></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FatTY_Thursday" data-mw-thread-id="h-FatTY_Thursday-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FatTY_Thursday-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z"></span>FatTY Thursday<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FatTY_Thursday-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: FatTY Thursday"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.162.46.137-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z-FatTY_Thursday"></span>Tlusty Czwartek translates as Fatty Thursday as opposed to Fat Tuesday. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.162.46.137" title="Special:Contributions/86.162.46.137">86.162.46.137</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:86.162.46.137&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:86.162.46.137 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-86.162.46.137-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z-FatTY_Thursday" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.162.46.137-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z-FatTY_Thursday"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.162.46.137-2011-03-07T02:04:00.000Z-FatTY_Thursday"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday" data-mw-thread-id="h-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z"></span>Little clarification about Fat Thursday<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Little clarification about Fat Thursday"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.139.29.35-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday"></span>Attention: this might only cover the german "Fat Thursday". </p><p>The articles claims that Fat Thursday is the last day before lent, when you are allowed to eat everything. However, lent starts with Ash-Wednesday, so the last day to eat is the Tuesday before. German Wikipedia explains the name of Fat Thursday in that way: This Thursday was in catholic regions the last occasion to slaughter animals before lent, since friday, saturday and sunday were days on which it was forbidden by religion to slaughter. Slaughtering animals on monday and tuesday was okay, but with the upcoming lent on wednesday it was unpractical to slaughter because the meat couldn't be eaten till wednesday. So Fat Thursday means, that you have "fat" and meat to eat from this day until lent starts. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.139.29.35" title="Special:Contributions/87.139.29.35">87.139.29.35</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:87.139.29.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:87.139.29.35 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-87.139.29.35-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.139.29.35-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.139.29.35-2012-02-15T11:26:00.000Z-Little_clarification_about_Fat_Thursday"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z"></span>Fat Tuesday vs. Shrove Thursday<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Fat Tuesday vs. Shrove Thursday"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikolajch-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday"></span>Some people mistranslate from polish Fat Tuesday as Shrove Tuesday. Fat Tuesday is a correct translation. The word shrove is the past tense of the English verb shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of Confession and doing penance and this word is not applicable for Fat Tuesday celebrations. In many polish sources 'tłusty czwartek' is translated as Fat Tuesday: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/90408,Poles-gorge-themselves-on-Fat-Thursday">http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/90408,Poles-gorge-themselves-on-Fat-Thursday</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.vi-hotels.com/en/andels-lodz/restaurant-brasserie/sweet-craziness-at-fat-thursday/">http://www.vi-hotels.com/en/andels-lodz/restaurant-brasserie/sweet-craziness-at-fat-thursday/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://polandisawesome.blogspot.com/2012/02/fat-thursday.html">http://polandisawesome.blogspot.com/2012/02/fat-thursday.html</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art60951.asp">http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art60951.asp</a> <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mikolajch&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mikolajch (page does not exist)">Mikolajch</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikolajch&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Mikolajch (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mikolajch" title="Special:Contributions/Mikolajch">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Mikolajch-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikolajch-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikolajch-2013-02-06T17:59:00.000Z-Fat_Tuesday_vs._Shrove_Thursday"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z"><span id="Greek:_.CE.A4.CF.83.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.BD.CE.BF.CF.80.CE.AD.CE.BC.CF.80.CF.84.CE.B7_.28Tsiknopempti.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z"></span>Greek: Τσικνοπέμπτη (Tsiknopempti)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Greek: Τσικνοπέμπτη (Tsiknopempti)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)"></span>Greek Tsiknopempti is not the Thursday before Lent, but the Thursday before the week before Lent. This is because the week it falls in is the last week to eat meat, as the following week is called Cheesefare week. As it has its own entry, it should be removed from here.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richardson_mcphillips&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richardson mcphillips (page does not exist)">Richardson mcphillips</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richardson_mcphillips" title="User talk:Richardson mcphillips">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 3 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-02-03T17:24:00.000Z-Greek:_Τσικνοπέμπτη_(Tsiknopempti)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="rose_"marmalade"" data-mw-thread-id="h-rose_"marmalade"-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z"><span id="rose_.22marmalade.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-rose_"marmalade"-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z"></span>rose "marmalade"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-rose_"marmalade"-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: rose "marmalade""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z-rose_"marmalade""></span>I believe it is rose jam, not rose marmalade. And in any case according to the linked article on marmalade, it has to be made from citrus. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richardson_mcphillips&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richardson mcphillips (page does not exist)">Richardson mcphillips</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richardson_mcphillips" title="User talk:Richardson mcphillips">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z-rose_"marmalade"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 29 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z-rose_"marmalade""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richardson_mcphillips-2016-01-29T23:07:00.000Z-rose_"marmalade""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others..." data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others...-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others...-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z"></span>This Article should be merged into others...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others...-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: This Article should be merged into others..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuanRiley-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others..."></span>...Such as Shrove Tuesday...Pancake Tuesday etc. Which are all better ones. AND importantly the 2016 date at least is off...or I else have missed my pancakes! <a href="/wiki/User:JuanRiley" title="User:JuanRiley">Juan Riley </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuanRiley" title="User talk:JuanRiley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat_Thursday#c-JuanRiley-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuanRiley-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuanRiley-2016-02-05T02:03:00.000Z-This_Article_should_be_merged_into_others..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiki_Education_assignment:_Communication_and_Culture" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiki_Education_assignment:_Communication_and_Culture"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiki_Education_assignment:_Communication_and_Culture"></span>Wiki Education assignment: Communication and Culture<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiki_Education_assignment:_Communication_and_Culture"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fat_Thursday&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Wiki Education assignment: Communication and Culture"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sciences_humaines.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Sciences_humaines.svg/40px-Sciences_humaines.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Sciences_humaines.svg/60px-Sciences_humaines.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Sciences_humaines.svg/80px-Sciences_humaines.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-02-02">2 February 2021</span> and <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-05-14">14 May 2021</span>. 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