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The motivation for this change is that a question has come up during discussions more than once regarding how many players get Wesnoth from one source vs another - SourceForge, Steam, software repositories, etc - and this would be able to provide us some actual data to look at (at least as far as players who use the official multiplayer server).<br> <br> The value that is to be stored for the client's source is read from the file <code class="inline-code"><root wesnoth directory>/data/dist</code>. If the file is not present, or contains an invalid value, then the value of <code class="inline-code">Default</code> will be sent to wesnothd. The list of valid values is: <ul><li>Default</li> <li>Steam</li> <li>SourceForge</li> <li>Flatpak</li> <li>macOS App Store</li> <li>Linux repository</li> <li>iOS</li> <li>Android</li> <li>BSD repository</li></ul> <strong class="text-strong">What this means for packagers</strong><br> During packaging, please create the <code class="inline-code">data/dist</code> file with the appropriate value <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"></div> <div id="sig648344" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p648399" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile648399"> <dt 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class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2019-10-24T05:40:34+00:00">October 24th, 2019, 5:40 am</time> </p> <div class="content">That's basically what <code class="inline-code">Default</code> covers, though - any situation where the provided options are missing, invalid, or don't apply.</div> <div id="sig648406" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p649302" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile649302"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140077&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" 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Packagers won't know about this unless some drastic measures like build failure happen without them setting this. We don't have contact to them, nor do I expect them to read this topic. To make matters worse, while @Packagers are pinged upon tagging,I remember no release where our Debian packager was pinged – the only Linux packager I know of to be in the chat.<br> <a href="https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/wesnoth" class="postlink">Archlinux</a> for example is setting the location of manpages explicitly. 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I was thinking that wouldn't cover people who self-compile, for example, but the number of people who do that on Windows/macOS is probably very small.</div> <div id="sig649310" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p649311" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile649311"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=122699_1532101445.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">octalot</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">General Code Maintainer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=122699&sr=posts&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299">816</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> July 17th, 2010, 7:40 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Austria</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content649311"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=649311&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649311">Re: Packaging changes for 1.14.10 and 1.15.3</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=649311&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=649311&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649311" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">octalot</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2019-11-26T19:17:17+00:00">November 26th, 2019, 7:17 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Is it a problem when packagers don't change the default? 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2019, 9:23 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=649302&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649302"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140077&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299">Shiki</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=649302&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649302" data-post-id="649302" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">November 26th, 2019, 1:53 pm</span></cite> To make matters worse, while @Packagers are pinged upon tagging,I remember no release where our Debian packager was pinged – the only Linux packager I know of to be in the chat.</div></blockquote> Rhonda can configure her IRC client to highlight on <code class="inline-code">@Packagers</code>. It's pretty easy to do this in most clients.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p649513" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile649513"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=141610&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Tad_Carlucci</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Inactive Developer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=141610&sr=posts&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299">503</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> April 24th, 2016, 4:18 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content649513"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=649513&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649513">Re: Packaging changes for 1.14.10 and 1.15.3</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=649513&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=649513&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299#p649513" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=141610&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">Tad_Carlucci</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2019-12-03T13:21:59+00:00">December 3rd, 2019, 1:21 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">In my experience, there is no way to ensure all packagers get notified _and_pay_attention_.<br> <br> I'm in the "make it a build error" camp. Sure, that means everyone, not just packagers, have a new step, but the other choice is to set a default. Setting a default means it'll never be changed. Which is the same as not bothering with the feature at all.</div> <div id="sig649513" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">I forked real life and now I'm getting merge conflicts.</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p649544" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile649544"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=113928_1671328089.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=21cd555d74bb407087ca0b1a01489299" style="color: #CA8935;" 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