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class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>Perkara 1</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Perkara_1-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Perkara_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Perkara_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>Perkara 2</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Perkara_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Perkara_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Perkara_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>Perkara 3</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Perkara_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>Penyeragaman piawai warna parti politik Malaysia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 ulasan</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Togol subbahagian Penyeragaman piawai warna parti politik Malaysia</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-A._Pemilihan_warna" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A._Pemilihan_warna"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.1</span> <span>A. Pemilihan warna</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-A._Pemilihan_warna-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#B._Penentuan_warna_piawai"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.2</span> <span>B. Penentuan warna piawai</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>Larangan pautan luar jenama di AdvancedSiteNotices?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 ulasan</span> <ul id="toc-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div class="mw-content-container"> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <header class="mw-body-header vector-page-titlebar"> <nav aria-label="Kandungan" class="vector-toc-landmark"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-titlebar-toc vector-button-flush-left" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Togol isi kandungan" > <label id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-label" for="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-listBullet mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-listBullet"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Togol isi kandungan</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Wikipedia</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Kedai Kopi (dasar)</span></h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox mw-interlanguage-selector" aria-label="Pergi ke rencana dalam bahasa lain. 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class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabierna/Politicas" title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Politicas – Aragon" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Politicas" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="Aragon" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-as mw-list-item"><a href="https://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%B0_%E0%A6%9A%27%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE_(%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BF)" title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা (নীতি) – Assam" lang="as" hreflang="as" data-title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা (নীতি)" data-language-autonym="অসমীয়া" data-language-local-name="Assam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>অসমীয়া</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-azb badge-Q70893996 mw-list-item" title=""><a href="https://azb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C_(%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA)" title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی (سیاست) – South Azerbaijani" lang="azb" hreflang="azb" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی (سیاست)" data-language-autonym="تۆرکجه" data-language-local-name="South Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>تۆرکجه</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Kebijakan)" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Kebijakan) – Indonesia" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Kebijakan)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pod_l%C3%ADpou_(pravidla)" title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou (pravidla) – Czech" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou (pravidla)" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="Czech" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dty mw-list-item"><a href="https://dty.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B_(%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF)" title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो (नीति) – Doteli" lang="dty" hreflang="dty" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो (नीति)" data-language-autonym="डोटेली" data-language-local-name="Doteli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>डोटेली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-en mw-list-item"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) – Inggeris" lang="en" hreflang="en" data-title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)" data-language-autonym="English" data-language-local-name="Inggeris" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/Pol%C3%ADticas/Actual" title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Políticas/Actual – Sepanyol" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Políticas/Actual" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Sepanyol" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eu badge-Q70893996 mw-list-item" title=""><a href="https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Txokoa/Politikak" title="Wikipedia:Txokoa/Politikak – Basque" lang="eu" hreflang="eu" data-title="Wikipedia:Txokoa/Politikak" data-language-autonym="Euskara" data-language-local-name="Basque" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Euskara</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87/%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C" title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه/اجرایی – Parsi" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه/اجرایی" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Parsi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:A_Taberna_(pol%C3%ADticas)" title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (políticas) – Galicia" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (políticas)" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="Galicia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-glk mw-list-item"><a href="https://glk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%D9%82%D8%A3%D9%88%D9%87_%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%A9%D8%A4%D9%86/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%A7%DA%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C" title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن/کارکیاگری – Gilaki" lang="glk" hreflang="glk" data-title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن/کارکیاگری" data-language-autonym="گیلکی" data-language-local-name="Gilaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>گیلکی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko mw-list-item"><a href="https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%B0%B1%EA%B3%BC:%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%EB%B0%A9_(%EC%A0%95%EC%B1%85)" title="위키백과:사랑방 (정책) – Korea" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키백과:사랑방 (정책)" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="Korea" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hy mw-list-item"><a href="https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%8E%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%AB%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%A4%D5%AB%D5%A1:%D4%BD%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%B0%D6%80%D5%A4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6/%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B8%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A3" title="Վիքիպեդիա:Խորհրդարան/կանոնակարգ – Armenia" lang="hy" hreflang="hy" data-title="Վիքիպեդիա:Խորհրդարան/կանոնակարգ" data-language-autonym="Հայերեն" data-language-local-name="Armenia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Հայերեն</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ilo mw-list-item"><a href="https://ilo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Annuroten" title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Annuroten – Iloko" lang="ilo" hreflang="ilo" data-title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Annuroten" data-language-autonym="Ilokano" data-language-local-name="Iloko" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ilokano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Angkringan_Niti" title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Niti – Jawa" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Niti" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="Jawa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Jawa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ks mw-list-item"><a href="https://ks.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%90%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%96%D9%BE%DB%8C%D9%96%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D8%A0%D8%B3%D9%8E%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%8E%D9%84%DB%8C_(%D8%AD%D9%90%DA%A9%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%AA%DB%81%D9%90_%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C)" title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:اؠسَمبَلی (حِکمَتہِ عَملی) – Kashmir" lang="ks" hreflang="ks" data-title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:اؠسَمبَلی (حِکمَتہِ عَملی)" data-language-autonym="कॉशुर / کٲشُر" data-language-local-name="Kashmir" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>कॉशुर / کٲشُر</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kk mw-list-item"><a href="https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%95%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80" title="Уикипедия:Форум/Ережелер – Kazakhstan" lang="kk" hreflang="kk" data-title="Уикипедия:Форум/Ережелер" data-language-autonym="Қазақша" data-language-local-name="Kazakhstan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Қазақша</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D_(%E0%B4%A8%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%B0%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A3%E0%B4%82)" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (നയരൂപീകരണം) – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (നയരൂപീകരണം)" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80_(%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF)" title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (नीति) – Nepal" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (नीति)" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepal" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ce mw-list-item"><a href="https://ce.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%8A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88" title="Википеди:Форум/Бакъонаш – Chechen" lang="ce" hreflang="ce" data-title="Википеди:Форум/Бакъонаш" data-language-autonym="Нохчийн" data-language-local-name="Chechen" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Нохчийн</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-frr mw-list-item"><a href="https://frr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Politiik" title="Wikipedia:Politiik – Frisian Utara" lang="frr" hreflang="frr" data-title="Wikipedia:Politiik" data-language-autonym="Nordfriisk" data-language-local-name="Frisian Utara" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nordfriisk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uz mw-list-item"><a href="https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Forum/Qoidalar" title="Vikipediya:Forum/Qoidalar – Uzbekistan" lang="uz" hreflang="uz" data-title="Vikipediya:Forum/Qoidalar" data-language-autonym="Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча" data-language-local-name="Uzbekistan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D9%86%DA%89%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%81%D8%A7%DB%8C/%D8%AA%DA%AF%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%87" title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/تگلاره – Pashto" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/تگلاره" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pashto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pl mw-list-item"><a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Zasady" title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Zasady – Poland" lang="pl" hreflang="pl" data-title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Zasady" data-language-autonym="Polski" data-language-local-name="Poland" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Polski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0" title="Википедия:Форум/Правила – Rusia" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Правила" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Rusia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपीडिया:नीतिसभा – Sanskrit" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:नीतिसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="Sanskrit" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>संस्कृतम्</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-stq mw-list-item"><a href="https://stq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Politik" title="Wikipedia:Politik – Saterland Frisian" lang="stq" hreflang="stq" data-title="Wikipedia:Politik" data-language-autonym="Seeltersk" data-language-local-name="Saterland Frisian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Seeltersk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%93%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F:%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%9D%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%92_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%9A_(%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BB%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%92)" title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (ප්‍රතිපත්ති) – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (ප්‍රතිපත්ති)" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%AA%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%DA%8A%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD_%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88/%D9%BE%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A" title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/پاليسي – Sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/پاليسي" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="Sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سنڌي</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-szl mw-list-item"><a href="https://szl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Prawid%C5%82a" title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Prawidła – Silesian" lang="szl" hreflang="szl" data-title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Prawidła" data-language-autonym="Ślůnski" data-language-local-name="Silesian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ślůnski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%DB%95%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86_(%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3%DB%95%D8%AA)" title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (سیاسەت) – Kurdi Tengah" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (سیاسەت)" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="Kurdi Tengah" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>کوردی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Википедија:Трг/Википолитика – Serbia" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг/Википолитика" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Serbia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sh mw-list-item"><a href="https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Pijaca/Pravila_i_smjernice" title="Wikipedija:Pijaca/Pravila i smjernice – SerboCroatia" lang="sh" hreflang="sh" data-title="Wikipedija:Pijaca/Pravila i smjernice" data-language-autonym="Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски" data-language-local-name="SerboCroatia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(kawijakan)" title="Wikipedia:Sawala (kawijakan) – Sunda" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wikipedia:Sawala (kawijakan)" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="Sunda" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sunda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(k%C3%A4yt%C3%A4nn%C3%B6t)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (käytännöt) – Finland" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (käytännöt)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Finland" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF_(%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%88)" title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி (கொள்கை) – Tamil" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி (கொள்கை)" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="Tamil" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>தமிழ்</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%B4%D3%99%D0%BB%D3%99%D1%80_%D0%B1%D3%99%D1%85%D3%99%D1%81%D0%B5" title="Википедия:Кагыйдәләр бәхәсе – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Кагыйдәләр бәхәсе" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A1_(%E0%B0%AA%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%B2%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%81)" title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (పాలసీలు) – Telugu" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (పాలసీలు)" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="Telugu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>తెలుగు</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tg mw-list-item"><a href="https://tg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D2%9A%D0%B0%D2%B3%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D2%B3%D0%BE" title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона/Дастурҳо – Tajik" lang="tg" hreflang="tg" data-title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона/Дастурҳо" data-language-autonym="Тоҷикӣ" data-language-local-name="Tajik" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Тоҷикӣ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tr mw-list-item"><a href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:K%C3%B6y_%C3%A7e%C5%9Fmesi_(politika)" title="Vikipedi:Köy çeşmesi (politika) – Turki" lang="tr" hreflang="tr" data-title="Vikipedi:Köy çeşmesi (politika)" data-language-autonym="Türkçe" data-language-local-name="Turki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Türkçe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uk mw-list-item"><a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%96%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8)" title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа (політики) – Ukraine" lang="uk" hreflang="uk" data-title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа (політики)" data-language-autonym="Українська" data-language-local-name="Ukraine" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Українська</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ur mw-list-item"><a href="https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85_(%D8%AD%DA%A9%D9%85%D8%AA_%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C)" title="ویکیپیڈیا:دیوان عام (حکمت عملی) – Urdu" lang="ur" hreflang="ur" data-title="ویکیپیڈیا:دیوان عام (حکمت عملی)" data-language-autonym="اردو" data-language-local-name="Urdu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>اردو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh-yue mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%9F%8E%E5%B8%82%E8%AB%96%E5%A3%87_(%E6%94%BF%E7%AD%96)" title="Wikipedia:城市論壇 (政策) – Kantonis" lang="yue" hreflang="yue" data-title="Wikipedia:城市論壇 (政策)" data-language-autonym="粵語" data-language-local-name="Kantonis" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>粵語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh 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class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Penampilan</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">alih ke bar sisi</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">sorokkan</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Daripada Wikipedia, ensiklopedia bebas.</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="ms" dir="ltr"><dl id="Pengguna:ArrazzazBot/Arkib" style="display:none;"> <dt>signal </dt><dd>1 </dd><dt>archive </dt><dd>Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2024 </dd><dt>days </dt><dd>14 </dd></dl> <table width="100%" style="border:1px solid #abd5f5; background:#f1f5fc; margin-bottom:10px;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="2"> <div id="m-laman-kedai-kopi"> <ul><li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Dasar</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(cadangan)" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (cadangan)">Cadangan</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(teknikal)" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (teknikal)">Teknikal</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(lain-lain)" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (lain-lain)">Lain-lain</a></li></ul> </div> <div id="submenu"> <div id="submenu-arkib"><div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form-inline" action="/wiki/Khas:Cari"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="Gelintar arkib" size="20" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib" name="prefix"/> <input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Cari dalam teks penuh" class="cdx-button"/><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div></div> <ul><li><a href="#toc">Isi kandungan</a></li> <li><a href="#below_toc">Perbincangan sulung</a></li> <li><a href="#footer">Hujung laman</a></li> <li><span class="noprint plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&&action=edit&section=new">Topik baharu</a></span></li> <li><span id="mw-kk-arkib-link">Arkib</span></li></ul> </div><b>Jika anda memerlukan bantuan dari penyelia, sila pergi ke <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Penyelia/Papan_kenyataan" title="Wikipedia:Penyelia/Papan kenyataan">papan kenyataan penyelia</a>.</b><div id="sarkib-kkopi"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi#Senarai_arkib" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi">Sebelum 2008</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2008" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2008">2008</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2009" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2009">2009</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2010&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2010 (laman tidak wujud)">2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2011" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2011">2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2012" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2012">2012</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2013" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2013">2013</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2014" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2014">2014</a></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding:5px"><div style="float:right"><div style="position:relative;top:-3em"><span id="WP:KKD"></span></div> <div class="shortcutbox plainlist noprint" role="note" style="float:right;border:1px solid #aaa;background:#fff;margin:0em 0em 0em 1em;padding:.3em .6em .2em .6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold"><div style="display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;margin-bottom:.2em;font-weight:normal"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Jalan_pintas" title="Wikipedia:Jalan pintas">Jalan pintas</a> </div><ul><li>[[:<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:KKD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:KKD">WP:KKD</a>]]</li></ul></div></div>Laman ini merupakan salah satu daripada bahagian-bahagian <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi">Kedai Kopi</a> khas untuk perbincangan tentang dasar-dasar sedia ada ataupun yang diusulkan di sini berkenaan <b>Wikipedia</b>.<br/> <p><b>Lihat juga</b>: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dasar_dan_garis_panduan" title="Wikipedia:Dasar dan garis panduan">Wikipedia:Dasar dan garis panduan</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi/Jadual_usul" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi/Jadual usul">Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi/Jadual usul</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align:center; border-top:1px solid #abd5f5">Sila letakkan tandatangan beserta tarikh bagi kiriman anda (dengan menaip <code>~~~~</code> atau klik butang <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Insert-signature.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Tandatangan dan cap waktu"><img alt="Tandatangan dan cap waktu" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Insert-signature.png" decoding="async" width="22" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="22" data-file-height="22"/></a></span> pada bar peralatan menyunting).<sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tandatangan" title="Wikipedia:Tandatangan">kenapa?</a></sup> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r5657302">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-header,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-subheader,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-above,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-title,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-image,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data,body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .infobox-below{text-align:center}</style><table class="infobox" style="width:200px"><tbody><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-above">Dasar-dasar terpilih</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="font-weight:normal; border-bottom:1px solid #ccc;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2008#Penggunaan_Aksara_Bukan_Melayu" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2008">Penggunaan Aksara Bukan Melayu</a> (2008)</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="font-weight:normal; border-bottom:1px solid #ccc;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2008#Pembentukan_dasar-dasar_baru" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2008">Pembentukan dasar-dasar baru</a> (2008)</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="font-weight:normal; border-bottom:1px solid #ccc;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2008#Pautan_luar_atau_Pantauan_luar" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2008">Pautan luar atau Pantauan luar</a> (2008)</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="font-weight:normal; border-bottom:1px solid #ccc;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2009#Lagi_berkenaan_dasar_dan_garis_panduan" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2009">Lagi berkenaan dasar dan garis panduan</a> (2009)</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="font-weight:normal; border-bottom:1px solid #ccc;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2024#Referendum_fungsi_muat_naik_fail_di_Wikipedia_Bahasa_Melayu" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2024">Referendum fungsi muat naik fail di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu</a> (2024)</th></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-below"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Senarai_dasar_terpilih" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Senarai dasar terpilih">lihat semua</a> · <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/dt&action=edit">sunting</a></span></b></td></tr></tbody></table> <table id="archivebox" role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice mbox-small" style="text-align: center;"> <tbody><tr><th><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:File-manager.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/File-manager.svg/35px-File-manager.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/File-manager.svg/53px-File-manager.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/File-manager.svg/70px-File-manager.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="60" data-file-height="60"/></a></span><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bagaimana_mengarkibkan_halaman_perbualan" title="Wikipedia:Bagaimana mengarkibkan halaman perbualan">Arkib</a> </th></tr> <tr><td style="text-align:left;"> <p> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2008" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2008">2008</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2009" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2009">2009</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2010&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2010 (laman tidak wujud)">2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2011" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2011">2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2012" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2012">2012</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2013" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2013">2013</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2014" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2014">2014</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Archive1" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Archive1">2015</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Archive2" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Archive2">2016</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Archive3" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Archive3">2017</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2018" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2018">2018</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2019" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2019">2019</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2020" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2020">2020</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2021" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2021">2021</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2024" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (dasar)/Arkib/2024">2024</a></li></ul> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <p><span id="below_toc"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia-20240705113800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia-20240705113800"></span>Nama universiti di Indonesia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia-20240705113800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=1" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Nama universiti di Indonesia"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Desertasad-20240705113800-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia"></span>Saya ingin bertanya kepada penyelia WP BM, apakah memang nama <i>article</i> untuk universitas di Indonesia harus ditulis 'universitas', bukan 'universiti'? Apakah ada kebijakan di WP BM bahwa nama Indonesia apapun harus dikekalkan di sini? Terima kasih. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Desertasad" title="Pengguna:Desertasad">Desertasad</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Desertasad" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Desertasad">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Desertasad-20240705113800-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 5 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Desertasad-20240705113800-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Desertasad-20240705113800-Nama_universiti_di_Indonesia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stress_043-20240706162700-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span>Secara peribadi, saya berpendapat rencana mengenai universiti tidak kira di negara mana sekali seharusnya ditulis sebagai "Universiti" sebagai mengikut piawaian bahasa Melayu. Contoh seperti <a href="/wiki/Universiti_Harvard" title="Universiti Harvard">Universiti Harvard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Universiti_Hassan_II_Casablanca" title="Universiti Hassan II Casablanca">Universiti Hassan II Casablanca</a> atau <a href="/wiki/Universiti_G%C3%B6ttingen" title="Universiti Göttingen">Universiti Göttingen</a>. Kemudian, dalam kotak info universiti barulah diletakkan nama asal/sebenar universiti tersebut. Apapun, terpulanglah kepada penyelia WBM untuk menilai hal ini. Terima kasih. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Stress_043" title="Pengguna:Stress 043">Stress 043</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Stress_043" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Stress 043">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Stress_043-20240706162700-Desertasad-20240705113800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 6 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stress_043-20240706162700-Desertasad-20240705113800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stress_043-20240706162700-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240714131300-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span>Seharusnya menggunakan tajuk Universiti, sebagaimana mengikut dasar yang telah dipersetujui <a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)/Arkib/2020#Penetapan_takrifan_bahasa_Melayu_dalam_WBM">di sini</a>. Penggunaan mengikut MABBIM dengan penggunaan bahasa dari Brunei dan Malaysia, serta Singapura. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240714131300-Desertasad-20240705113800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 14 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240714131300-Desertasad-20240705113800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240714131300-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240715090900-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span>Saya ingat ke selama ini kita memang guna "Universiti" bukannya "Universitas“? Saya sudah tambah ke <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Senarai_kesalahan_umum_ejaan" title="Wikipedia:Senarai kesalahan umum ejaan">Wikipedia:Senarai kesalahan umum ejaan</a> berkenaan hal ini. Mengikut hasil carian enjin, terdapat <a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khas:Cari&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&search=universitas">636 laman</a> Wikipedia yang menggunakan "universitas" berbanding "universiti". Mungkin sempena bulan gotong royong ini kita boleh betulkan kesemua ejaan yang ada di rencana Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240715090900-Desertasad-20240705113800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 15 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240715090900-Desertasad-20240705113800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240715090900-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240715090900"></span>Ah, seronoknya berwiki. Haha. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240715090900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:06, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240715090900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240715090900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240728020300-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span>Sekadar catatan di sini, setakat ini ada 22 rencana lagi tajuk rencana yang masih berawalan Universitas. Boleh rujuk <a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Indeks_awalan?prefix=Universitas&namespace=0&hideredirects=1">sini</a> - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240728020300-Desertasad-20240705113800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240728020300-Desertasad-20240705113800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240728020300-Desertasad-20240705113800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725032200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725032200"></span>Penetapan rencana bertulisan Jawi di mswiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725032200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=2" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Penetapan rencana bertulisan Jawi di mswiki"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240725032200-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki"></span>Baru-baru ini, ada pengguna yang mencipta rencana dalam tulisan Jawi berdasarkan rencana sedia ada. Perkara ini umum dalam versi bahasa di Indonesia yang lain seperti Jawa dan Bali. Namun, mswiki belum ada ketetapan khusus untuk rencana Jawi. </p><p>Cara yang lebih elok sebenarnya adalah menggunakan sistem penukaran aksara secara automatik seperti yang digunakan di Wikipedia Bahasa Cina dan bahasa lain. Namun, ini mengambil masa yang sangat lama kerana kita tiada pakar untuk membuatnya. </p><p>Bagi tempoh yang pendek dan mudah, kita boleh membuat rencana Jawi dengan disunting oleh penyunting sendiri berbanding mesin. </p><p>Saya menentang penggunaan tajuk Jawi dalam URL rencana kerana ini akan dikira dalam pengiraan jumlah rencana mswiki. Jika dibiarkan, senang sahaja mswiki melonjak jumlah rencana dan mencapai sejuta rencana dan sebagainya. Tidak elok rupanya kalau jumlah rencana kita banyak tetapi ternyatanya kebanyakannya hanya rencana dedua (duplicate). </p><p>Oleh itu, saya cadang untuk menggunakan sublaman /ms-arab untuk setiap rencana Jawi. ms-arab ialah kod yang diguna di projek-projek Wikimedia yang lain. Setelah itu, kita boleh paksa paparkan tajuk rencana kepada tulisan Jawi dengan menggunakan {{DISPLAYTITLE:بروني}} Namun, kita boleh melencong tajuk Jawi ke tajuk sublaman. Contohnya, <a href="/wiki/%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86%D9%8A" title="بروني">بروني</a> dilencongkan ke <a href="/w/index.php?title=Brunei/ms-arab&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Brunei/ms-arab (laman tidak wujud)">Brunei/ms-arab</a>. </p><p>Oleh itu, kita perlu membuat ketetapan terlebih dahulu untuk membuat ini. Saya mencadangkan perbincangan dan pengundian ini dijalankan selama sebulan atau selanjutnya jika perlu. </p><p>1. Setujukah anda Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu membenarkan rencana bertulisan Jawi yang tersendiri yang dicipta dan disunting oleh para penyunting? </p> <ul><li>~~~~ {{Undi|Ya}}/{{Undi|Tidak}}</li></ul> <p>2. Setujukah anda isi kandungan rencana mesti sama dengan versi Ruminya? </p> <ul><li>~~~~ {{Undi|Ya}}/{{Undi|Tidak}}</li></ul> <p>3. Setujukah anda tajuk rencana bertulisan Jawi menggunakan format ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab? </p> <ul><li>~~~~ {{Undi|Ya}}/{{Undi|Tidak}}</li></ul> <p>Saya mempersilakan semua penyunting untuk memberi ulasan. Terima kasih. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240725032200-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:22, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240725032200-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240725032200-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500-Tofeiku-20240725032200"></span>Berkaitan perbincangan ini, adakah sesuai juga kita jadikan sebagai subjudul untuk setiap persoalan diketengahkan, sebagaimana yang pernah dibuat oleh @<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">Hakimi97</a> di atas? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500-Tofeiku-20240725032200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500-Tofeiku-20240725032200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500-Tofeiku-20240725032200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725040000-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500"></span>Saya boleh bantu tetapkan semula format jika perlu. Kalau @<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a> benarkan maka saya akan teruskan sahaja. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725040000-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725040000-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725040000-Zahirulnukman-20240725035500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240725040500-Hakimi97-20240725040000"></span>Boleh sahaja. Maaf dibuat dengan kurang kemas. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240725040500-Hakimi97-20240725040000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240725040500-Hakimi97-20240725040000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240725040500-Hakimi97-20240725040000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240727143200-Tofeiku-20240725040500"></span>Memanggil beberapa penyunting aktif untuk memberi pendapat. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:*angys*" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:*angys*">*angys*</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Pengguna:26 Ramadan">26 Ramadan</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">Adamhakeemiforv</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Akazumi_Ahasi" title="Pengguna:Akazumi Ahasi">Akazumi Ahasi</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Alenjun03" title="Pengguna:Alenjun03">Alenjun03</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ameh_Hammie_1997" title="Pengguna:Ameh Hammie 1997">Ameh Hammie 1997</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Amir_Hamzah_2008" title="Pengguna:Amir Hamzah 2008">Amir Hamzah 2008</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Aqil55" title="Pengguna:Aqil55">Aqil55</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Aurora" title="Pengguna:Aurora">Aurora</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ayamato" title="Pengguna:Ayamato">Ayamato</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:AyyanD" title="Pengguna:AyyanD">AyyanD</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Billiena" title="Pengguna:Billiena">Billiena</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ceball1923" title="Pengguna:Ceball1923">Ceball1923</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:CyberTroopers" title="Pengguna:CyberTroopers">CyberTroopers</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Pengguna:EmpAhmadK">EmpAhmadK</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hayate891" title="Pengguna:Hayate891">Hayate891</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">Haziq Faruqi</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hongqilim" title="Pengguna:Hongqilim">Hongqilim</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Jonhsonbaby" title="Pengguna:Jonhsonbaby">Jonhsonbaby</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:MuhdAliffHaziq" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:MuhdAliffHaziq">MuhdAliffHaziq</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:PeaceSeekers" title="Pengguna:PeaceSeekers">PeaceSeekers</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Pengguna:Surat Layang">Surat Layang</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:TakuYuri" title="Pengguna:TakuYuri">TakuYuri</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ultron90" title="Pengguna:Ultron90">Ultron90</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Visnu92" title="Pengguna:Visnu92">Visnu92</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman">Zahirulnukman</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zamwan" title="Pengguna:Zamwan">Zamwan</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zayn_al_aziz" title="Pengguna:Zayn al aziz">Zayn al aziz</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zcoollz" title="Pengguna:Zcoollz">Zcoollz</a>:</span>. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240727143200-Tofeiku-20240725040500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240727143200-Tofeiku-20240725040500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240727143200-Tofeiku-20240725040500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Perkara_1" data-mw-thread-id="h-Perkara_1-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Perkara_1-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span>Perkara 1<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Perkara_1-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=3" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Perkara 1"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_1"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r6366573">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 50px;background:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa)}.mw-parser-output .templatequote .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;padding-left:1.5em;padding-top:1.0em;margin-top:0}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Secara umum, adakah anda bersetuju sekiranya Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu membenarkan penciptaan rencana yang ditulis dalam tulisan Jawi sepenuhnya?</p></blockquote> <p>Undian pada perkara ini akan direkodkan di Kedai Kopi untuk tujuan pendokumenan di masa hadapan. Sila salin kod berikut untuk menyatakan sokongan/bantahan anda tentang rencana bertulisan Jawi di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu. </p> <ul><li>Kalau <b>setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|Y}}</li> <li>Kalau <b>tidak setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|T}}</li></ul> <p>(Tekan "balas" di sini untuk Perkara 1) <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725044700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - kerana tulisan Jawi juga ialah bahasa Melayu, dan ini Wikipedia bahasa Melayu. Sangat wajar untuk dibenarkan penciptaan rencana dalam tulisan Jawi sepenuhnya. Cuma, saya cenderung untuk diwujudkan sistem semakan sebelum dijadikan rencana bagi mengelakkan terjemahan rambang dan berlaku kesalahan ejaan yang nyata. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240725044700-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725044700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725044700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240725051100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Walaupun saya lebih suka dengan penukaran automatik aksara, bagi saya ini dapat membenarkan penyunting mahu menyunting dalam tulisan Jawi. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240725051100-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240725051100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240725051100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Sudah 4 tahun kita memohon di <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261507">T261507</a> untuk mewujudkan alat pertukaran aksara bahasa Melayu daripada tulisan Rumi ke tulisan Jawi, tetapi yang kita dapat hanya senyap sahaja. Penggunaan <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjek_Jawi" title="Wikipedia:WikiProjek Jawi">kod Rumi ke Jawi</a> sebenarnya tidak memuaskan kerana seperti <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pengguna:Hakimi97/kamusrumikpdjawi.js&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97/kamusrumikpdjawi.js (laman tidak wujud)">saiz kamus terlalu besar tidak boleh boleh ditampung oleh perisian MediaWiki</a>. Saya sudah <a class="external text" href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pengguna:Hakimi97/rumikpdjawi.js&action=history">cuba bermacam-macam cara untuk mengemas kini kod supaya kamus boleh terus diimport dari Github</a>, namun disebabkan saya tidak pakar IT maka semuanya tidak menjadi. Berbanding menunggu timba jatuh dari langit, saya berpendapat lebih baik kita lakukan sesuatu. Jika alat pertukaran aksara sudah tersedia nanti kita mungkin bolehlah hapuskan balik laman-laman tersebut. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725093100-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725093100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stress_043-20240725150200-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_neutral_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Berkecuali</b> Saya secara peribadinya memang sokong jika terdapat banyak rencana dalam tulisan Jawi di WBM, namun apa yang merisaukan saya ialah WBM kurangnya sukarelawan yang memantau aktiviti di sini. Gejala vandalisma sememangnya sedang berlaku di kebanyakkan rencana dan apabila kita menambah lagi rencana dalam Jawi, dengan bilangan sukarelawan yang ada tentunya menyukarkan lagi tugas pemantauan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Stress_043" title="Pengguna:Stress 043">Stress 043</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Stress_043" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Stress 043">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Stress_043-20240725150200-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stress_043-20240725150200-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stress_043-20240725150200-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Jawi memainkan peranan penting dalam persuratan bahasa Melayu suatu ketika dahulu, jadi sangat wajar untuk Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu membolehkan rencana ditulis dalam tulisan Jawi. Saya juga cenderung adanya sistem semakan sebelum dijadikan rencana. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Pengguna:Kazuki278">Kazuki278</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Kazuki278">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Kazuki278-20240726111400-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 26 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kazuki278-20240726111400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_neutral_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Berkecuali</b> Pada pandangan saya boleh saja tapi penulis yang mahir Jawi tidak begitu ramai. Bukanlah saya membangkangnya tapi mutunya hanya perlu dijaga. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">Haziq Faruqi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145700-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Saya bersetuju sahaja kerana memang ada penulis yang memang berminat untuk menulis menggunakan Jawi. Daripada cempedak baiklah nangka, daripada tidak baiklah ada, tetapi sistem penukaran aksara tentunya lebih mudah untuk diuruskan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Pengguna:Surat Layang">Surat Layang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Surat Layang">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Surat_Layang-20240727152000-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hayate891-20240727153800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Saya bersetuju. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hayate891" title="Pengguna:Hayate891">Hayate891</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hayate891" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hayate891">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hayate891-20240727153800-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hayate891-20240727153800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hayate891-20240727153800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hongqilim-20240727164100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_neutral_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Berkecuali</b> Saya baik-baik sahaja. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hongqilim" title="Pengguna:Hongqilim">Hongqilim</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hongqilim" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hongqilim">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hongqilim-20240727164100-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hongqilim-20240727164100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hongqilim-20240727164100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> – <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Pengguna:26 Ramadan">26 Ramadan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Perbincangan pengguna:26 Ramadan">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aurora-20240728051500-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Tidak setuju</b> Lebih baik tunggu penukaran aksara secara automatik. Kalau hendak juga, bukan di ruang nama utama. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Aurora" title="Pengguna:Aurora">...Aurora...</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Aurora" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Aurora">b</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Aurora-20240728051500-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:15, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aurora-20240728051500-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aurora-20240728051500-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">Adamhakeemiforv</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112000-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728160600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> namun perlukan pemantauan ketat. Kini terdapat terlalu banyak kesilapan ejaan dalam penulisan panjang. Memandangkan Wikipedia merupakan salah satu sumber utama penulisan bagi model bahasa raya, ini boleh menjadi satu masalah untuk peralatan AI termasuk Google Translate yang buat masa kini tidak dapat mengeja dengan betul. Saya cadangkan, dan akan turut berusaha untuk mempercepatkan usaha penukaran aksara secara automatik secepat mungkin.<br/>Melainkan jika sudah ada sistem yang serupa atau lebih bagus, saya cadangkan penggunaan sistem semakan (seakan-akan sistem terjemahan di laman-laman Wikimedia) bagi setiap istilah rumi bagi mengesahkan terjemahan automatik. Mungkin segala ejaan yang belum disemak akan dimerahkan sehingga disemak oleh pengguna terautosah. Ini bagi mengelakkan berlakunya kesalahanggapan hanya kerana Wikipedia berkata sedemikian. <span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999"><b><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font></a></b> - (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Perbincangan pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black;">bincang</font></a>)</span> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-EmpAhmadK-20240728160600-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728160600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728160600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li></ol></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Perkara_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Perkara_2-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Perkara_2-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span>Perkara 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Perkara_2-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=4" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Perkara 2"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r6366573"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Adakah anda setuju bahawa kandungan penulisan rencana pada versi tulisan Jawi mesti sama sepenuhnya dengan padanan versi tulisan Ruminya?</p></blockquote> <p>Undian pada perkara ini akan direkodkan di Kedai Kopi untuk tujuan pendokumenan di masa hadapan. Sila salin kod berikut untuk menyatakan sokongan/bantahan anda tentang rencana bertulisan Jawi di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu. </p> <ul><li>Kalau <b>setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|Y}}</li> <li>Kalau <b>tidak setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|T}}</li></ul> <p>(Tekan "balas" di sini untuk Perkara 2) <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725045600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Lebih baik ikut Rumi. Pada saya, rencana Jawi yang dihasilkan pendek disebabkan menulis pendahuluan sahaja (mengikut apa yang ada di Rumi) lebih baik daripada menulis perkara berbeza. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240725045600-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725045600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725045600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240725050800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Memandangkan menggunakan domain yang sama, isi kandungan perlu sama melainkan kita wujudkan domain yang berbeza. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240725050800-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240725050800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240725050800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Ya, tidak kira tulisan Rumi atau tulisan Jawi, bahasanya tetap sama sahaja iaitu bahasa Melayu. Tidak patut diwujudkan dua versi yang berbeza ibarat tulisan Jawi dan tulisan Rumi ini dua bahasa berbeza. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725093400-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725093400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Saya setuju kerana isi kandungan itu yang lebih penting di Wikipedia. Kita hanya memudahkan pengguna membaca Wikipedia sama ada dalam Rumi atau Jawi, dengan isi kandungan yang sama. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Stress_043" title="Pengguna:Stress 043">Stress 043</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Stress_043" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Stress 043">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Bahasa yang sama, hanya tulisan yang berbeza. Memudahkan pengguna yang mungkin hendak berjinak-jinak dengan tulisan Jawi. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Pengguna:Kazuki278">Kazuki278</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Kazuki278">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Kazuki278-20240726111600-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 26 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kazuki278-20240726111600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Sebaik-baiknya begitulah kerana sistem tulisan sahaja yang berbeza. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">Haziq Faruqi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145900-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727145900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b>, mengekalkan konsep asalnya iaitu menukarkan sistem tulisan Rumi kepada Jawi. Tetapi mungkin agak susah untuk kita sentiasa menyelaraskan kededua kandungannya. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Pengguna:Surat Layang">Surat Layang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Surat Layang">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Surat_Layang-20240727152900-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surat_Layang-20240727152900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hayate891-20240727154700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Saya bersetuju. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hayate891" title="Pengguna:Hayate891">Hayate891</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hayate891" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hayate891">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hayate891-20240727154700-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hayate891-20240727154700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hayate891-20240727154700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> – <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Pengguna:26 Ramadan">26 Ramadan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Perbincangan pengguna:26 Ramadan">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aurora-20240728051800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Aurora" title="Pengguna:Aurora">...Aurora...</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Aurora" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Aurora">b</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Aurora-20240728051800-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aurora-20240728051800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aurora-20240728051800-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">Adamhakeemiforv</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112100-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b>. Kandungan berbeza-beza akan membawa kepada satu keadaan di mana salah satu daripada versinya ketinggalan dalam pembangunan, atau kedua-duanya kekurangan kandungan yang wujud di versi satu lagi. <span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999"><b><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font></a></b> - (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Perbincangan pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black;">bincang</font></a>)</span> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li></ol></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Perkara_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Perkara_3-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Perkara_3-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span>Perkara 3<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Perkara_3-Penetapan_rencana_bertulisan_Jawi_di_mswiki-20240725044000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=5" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Perkara 3"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_3"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r6366573"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Adakah anda setuju bahawa tajuk rencana bertulisan Jawi menggunakan format ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab? ("Tajuk" pada "ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab" itu sendiri mestilah bertulisan Rumi, maksud di sini versi tulisan Jawi merupakan sublaman di bawah versi tulisan Rumi)</p></blockquote> <p>Undian pada perkara ini akan direkodkan di Kedai Kopi untuk tujuan pendokumenan di masa hadapan. Sila salin kod berikut untuk menyatakan sokongan/bantahan anda tentang rencana bertulisan Jawi di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu. </p> <ul><li>Kalau <b>setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|Y}}</li> <li>Kalau <b>tidak setuju</b> maka salin kod ini: # {{undi|T}}</li></ul> <p>(Tekan "balas" di sini untuk Perkara 3) <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725044000-Perkara_3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Setuju, versi Jawi menjadi sublaman kepada Rumi. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050400-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240725050400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Jika ramai setuju untuk membenarkan rencana bertulisan Jawi sepenuhnya di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu, saya menyokong untuk tajuk rencana bertulisan Jawi menggunakan format sublaman seperti ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia/ms-arab dan bukannya ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/مليسيا. Ini untuk mengelakkan rencana bertulisan Jawi dihitung dalam jumlah rencana mswiki. Ini tidak adil bagi Wikipedia bahasa lain jika kita tidak menggunakan sublaman. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:06, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240725050600-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> serta setuju dengan pandangan @<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a> dan @<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman">Zahirulnukman</a>. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240725093700-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240725093700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240725093700-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240801020400-Hakimi97-20240725093700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a>, sekiranya tidak boleh ditetapkan format "ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab" disebabkan masalah teknikal, saya cadang untuk wujudkan ruang nama baharu iaitu "Jawi:", contoh jika versi Rumi ialah "Ikan" maka versi Jawi ialah "Jawi:ايکن". Namun, pilihan ini haruslah dijadikan pilihan terakhir dan kita seharusnya mengutamakan format "ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab" terlebih dahulu. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240801020400-Hakimi97-20240725093700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 1 Ogos 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240801020400-Hakimi97-20240725093700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240801020400-Hakimi97-20240725093700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000-Hakimi97-20240801020400"></span>Kalau ruang nama tu terus guna aksara jawi, jadi "جاوي:ايكن" pun menarik juga. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000-Hakimi97-20240801020400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 1 Ogos 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000-Hakimi97-20240801020400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000-Hakimi97-20240801020400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240801040000-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000"></span>Saya berpendapat guna "Jawi:" lebih selaras dengan format ruang nama Wikipedia berbanding ruang nama ":جاوي". Apapun berkenaan hal ini kita tunggu jika format "ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajuk/ms-arab" boleh diusahakan, kalau boleh senang sikit kerja. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240801040000-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 1 Ogos 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240801040000-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240801040000-Zahirulnukman-20240801035000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofeiku-20240801123100-Hakimi97-20240801040000"></span>Tidak terfikir pula pasal ruang nama tersendiri. Ini dapat membenarkan penyunting menggunakan tajuk dalam tulisan Jawi berbanding menggunakan sublaman. Jika betul-betul mahu memberikan peluang sepenuhnya dalam Jawi, lebih baik ruang namanya pun dalam ejaan Jawi jika dibenarkan. Tujuan penyunting Jawi mahu menyunting pun untuk mengelakkan ejaan Rumi sepenuhnya. Jadi, ia seperti masih berat sebelah bagi pendapat saya jika ruang namanya dalam Rumi juga. <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Pengguna:Tofeiku">Tofeiku</a></b><a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Tofeiku" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Tofeiku"><span style="color:Orange"><sup>Bincang</sup></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Tofeiku-20240801123100-Hakimi97-20240801040000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 1 Ogos 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofeiku-20240801123100-Hakimi97-20240801040000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tofeiku-20240801123100-Hakimi97-20240801040000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Saya setuju, namun kita juga perlu menggariskan panduan pengstrukturan di WBM tidak terhad kepada tajuk rencana sahaja. Kerana saya melihat ada beberapa rencana di sini meletakkan tulisan Rumi dan Jawi di bahagian tajuk kecil seperti di <a href="/wiki/Terengganu" title="Terengganu">sini</a>. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Stress_043" title="Pengguna:Stress 043">Stress 043</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Stress_043" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Stress 043">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 25 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stress_043-20240725151900-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jossisad-20240726070400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> setuju, dibuat sublaman seperti <a href="/wiki/Yayasan/ms-arab" title="Yayasan/ms-arab">Laman ini</a> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Jossisad" title="Pengguna:Jossisad">Jossisad</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Jossisad" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Jossisad">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Jossisad-20240726070400-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 26 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jossisad-20240726070400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jossisad-20240726070400-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> - Saya setuju versi Jawi dibuat sublaman. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Pengguna:Kazuki278">Kazuki278</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Kazuki278" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Kazuki278">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Kazuki278-20240726111900-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 26 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kazuki278-20240726111900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kazuki278-20240726111900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727150000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Setuju. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">Haziq Faruqi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Haziq_Faruqi" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Haziq Faruqi">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727150000-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727150000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haziq_Faruqi-20240727150000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727153100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Pengguna:Surat Layang">Surat Layang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Surat_Layang" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Surat Layang">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Surat_Layang-20240727153100-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surat_Layang-20240727153100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surat_Layang-20240727153100-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hayate891-20240727154900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Saya bersetuju. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hayate891" title="Pengguna:Hayate891">Hayate891</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hayate891" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hayate891">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hayate891-20240727154900-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 27 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hayate891-20240727154900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hayate891-20240727154900-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> – <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Pengguna:26 Ramadan">26 Ramadan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:26_Ramadan" title="Perbincangan pengguna:26 Ramadan">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-26_Ramadan-20240728020400-Hakimi97-20240725044000-2"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aurora-20240728052000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> sublaman atau ruang nama sendiri. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Aurora" title="Pengguna:Aurora">...Aurora...</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Aurora" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Aurora">b</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Aurora-20240728052000-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aurora-20240728052000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aurora-20240728052000-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240728223900-Aurora-20240728052000"></span>Menarik juga cadangan dijadikan ruang nama baharu ni. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240728223900-Aurora-20240728052000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">Adamhakeemiforv</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Adamhakeemiforv">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112200-Hakimi97-20240725044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112200-Hakimi97-20240725044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamhakeemiforv-20240728112200-Hakimi97-20240725044000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b>. Tulisan Rumi merupakan tulisan utama. Tujuan penggunaan tulisan Jawi adalah bagi pemeliharaan dan pendidikan, bukan kemudahan dari segi carian dsb. <span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999"><b><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font></a></b> - (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Perbincangan pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black;">bincang</font></a>)</span> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 28 Julai 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EmpAhmadK-20240728161000-Hakimi97-20240725044000-1"></span></li></ol></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"></span>Penyeragaman piawai warna parti politik Malaysia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=6" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Penyeragaman piawai warna parti politik Malaysia"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p>Salam sejahtera. Saya ingin mencadangkan agar warna tanda parti politik di Malaysia dipiawaikan agar seragam di serata Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu, dan dapat dibezakan antara satu sama lain. </p><p>Saya mempunyai beberapa cadangan sebagai garis panduan untuk penetapan warna piawai ini: </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="A._Pemilihan_warna" data-mw-thread-id="h-A._Pemilihan_warna-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A._Pemilihan_warna-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia"></span>A. Pemilihan warna<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A._Pemilihan_warna-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=7" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: A. Pemilihan warna"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ol><li>Warna yang digunakan hendaklah berdasarkan warna utama parti tersebut</li> <li>Sekiranya tiada warna utama yang jelas, warna dominan daripada lambang, bendera, atau logo akan digunakan.</li> <li>Sekiranya terdapat percanggahan antara penggunaan warna, parti yang mana pendaftarannya diluluskan oleh Jabatan Pendaftaran Pertubuhan Malaysia pada tarikh yang lebih awal akan diutamakan dan diberi warna yang lebih tepat.</li> <li>Sekiranya parti-parti bercanggah ditubuhkan pada hari yang sama, maka keutamaan pada huruf abjad Rumi akan diberi, di mana parti A akan diberi keutamaan berbanding parti Z.</li> <li>Pengecualian terhadap keutamaan-keutamaan ini akan diberi sekiranya parti yang wujud lebih awal tersebut tidak mempunyai kerusi di Dewan Rakyat, atau mempunyai kurang daripada 10 kerusi di Dewan Rakyat.</li> <li>Sekiranya warna selain warna utama atau warna dominan perlu digunakan akibat percanggahan, warna yang akan digunakan ialah warna utamanya namun dicairkan kecerahannya, dan sekiranya ia juga telah digunakan, warna dominan cair akan digunakan.</li> <li>Sekiranya warna tersebut terlalu cair untuk dicairkan lagi, maka warna tersebut sebaliknya akan ditingkatkan kecerahannya.</li> <li>Sekiranya sesebuah parti telah dibubar, ia akan kekalkan warnanya sehingga suatu parti yang lebih aktif perlu menggunakan warnanya.</li> <li>Sekiranya sesebuah parti mengganti parti yang lain, sama ada selepas pembubaran atau pun atas penjenamaan semula, maka kedua-dua parti ini dibenarkan mengguna warna yang sama sekiranya masih sesuai dengan kedua-dua penjenamaan.</li> <li>Sekiranya warna utama dua atau lebih parti politik kelihatan serupa walaupun berbeza, warna parti yang lebih baharu hendaklah diubah sedikit dengan melaraskan skala warna atau kepekatannya. Sekiranya kedua-dua pilihan tersebut mustahil dilakukan, ia akan dianggap sebagai warna sama dan perlu ubah kepada warna dominan lain atau warna cair.</li> <li>Sekiranya warna utama sesebuah parti komponen sama dengan warna parti gabungannya, dan parti komponen tersebut lazimnya bertanding di bawah lambang parti gabungan tersebut, maka ia dibenarkan untuk mengguna warna sama. Sekiranya parti tersebut lazim bertanding di bawah lambang sendiri, maka ia akan dikira sebagai parti berbeza dan perlu menggunakan warna dominan lain atau warna cair.</li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="B._Penentuan_warna_piawai" data-mw-thread-id="h-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"></span>B. Penentuan warna piawai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai-Penyeragaman_piawai_warna_parti_politik_Malaysia-20240902043500"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=8" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: B. Penentuan warna piawai"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai"></span>Warna yang digunakan hendaklah diambil daripada sumber rasmi, seperti laman sesawang atau sosial parti politik.</li> <li>Sekiranya terdapat percanggahan dalam warna pada sumber rasmi, keutamaan hendaklah diberi kepada yang berikut, disusun mengikut keutamaan: <ol><li>Suruhanjaya Pilihan Raya</li> <li>Jabatan Pendaftaran Pertubuhan</li> <li>Sumber di laman sesawang mengenai, mengikut keutamaan: <ol><li>lambang</li> <li>bendera</li> <li>logo</li></ol></li> <li>Pengepala laman sesawang, iaitu warna pada, mengikut keutamaan: <ol><li>lambang</li> <li>bendera</li> <li>logo</li></ol></li> <li>Gambar profil laman sosial rasmi pusat, iaitu pada, mengikut keutamaan: <ol><li>lambang</li> <li>bendera</li> <li>logo</li></ol></li> <li>Pengepala laman sosial rasmi pusat, iaitu pada, mengikut keutamaan <ol><li>lambang</li> <li>bendera</li> <li>logo</li></ol></li> <li>Sumber-sumber lain dengan persetujuan komuniti.</li></ol></li> <li>Pengecualian kepada keutamaan akan diberi kepada parti yang menggunakan lambang hitam-putih apabila bendera dan/atau logonya menggunakan warna, di mana warna pada bendera atau logonya akan digunakan.</li> <li>Sekiranya kesemua tiga lambang, bendera, dan logonya menggunakan warna hitam-putih, perhatikan laman sesawang dan laman sosial parti tersebut sekiranya terdapat warna yang lebih utama berbanding warna hitam atau putih. Sekiranya ada, dengan persetujuan komuniti, warna tersebut akan digunakan. Sekiranya tiada, warna utama hitam/putih akan digunakan.</li> <li>Sekiranya sumber menggunakan gambar yang berkeleraian rendah dengan warna tidak sekata, maka warna purata akan diambil daripada bidang berwarna utama tersebut.</li></ol> <hr/> <p>Selepas kepiawaian ini dipersetujui, saya cadangkan untuk sebuah senarai diwujudkan bagi mengaturkan warna-warna utama setiap parti yang ada pada <a href="/wiki/Senarai_parti_politik_Malaysia" title="Senarai parti politik Malaysia">senarai parti politik Malaysia</a>, tanpa mengira percanggahan warna, di dalam sebuah jadual. Selepas itu, warna yang ingin digunakan akan ditambah pada senarai tersebut. </p><p>Senarai itu hendaklah disusun mengikut tarikh pendaftaran parti tersebut diluluskan oleh Jabatan Pendaftaran Pertubuhan atau keutamaan abjad (seperti Perkara A(3) & (4), dengan butiran seperti berikut: </p> <table class="wikitable"> <caption>Contoh senarai </caption> <tbody><tr> <th>Nama </th> <th>Lambang </th> <th>Tarikh Pendaftaran </th> <th>Warna Utama </th> <th>Warna Piawai WBM </th> <th>Keterangan </th> <th>Sumber </th></tr> <tr> <td>Parti Penternak Celah Parit (PENCAK) </td> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg/60px-UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="47" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg/90px-UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg/120px-UK_Tourist_Sign_T119_-_English_or_Welsh_farm_park.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="477" data-file-height="377"/></a></span> </td> <td>20/02/2132 </td> <td><span style="background-color:#723601; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td><span style="background-color:#723601; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td>Warna lambang. </td> <td>SPR </td></tr> <tr> <td>Gabungan Pengecat Sekolah & Kilang Negara (GPSKN) </td> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg/60px-Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="60" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg/90px-Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg/120px-Large-paint-brush_-_Delapouite_-_game-icons.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> </td> <td>30/10/2132 </td> <td><span style="background-color:#000; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td><span style="background-color:#FFDE00; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td>Bendera parti menggunakan warna hitam berisian kuning </td> <td>Laman sesawang rasmi </td></tr> <tr> <td>Parti Pesara Atlet Lari Pecut Olimpik Tanah Air (LARI) </td> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:ISO_7010_E001.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/ISO_7010_E001.svg/60px-ISO_7010_E001.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="60" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/ISO_7010_E001.svg/90px-ISO_7010_E001.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/ISO_7010_E001.svg/120px-ISO_7010_E001.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="380" data-file-height="380"/></a></span> </td> <td>31/04/2133 </td> <td><span style="background-color:#1f8051; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td><span style="background-color:#1f8051; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td>Warna lambang. </td> <td>SPR </td></tr> <tr> <td>Parti Kampung Terbakar (PAKAT) </td> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg/61px-SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg.png" decoding="async" width="61" height="38" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg/92px-SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg/122px-SADC_road_sign_GFS_C1-10.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="3465" data-file-height="2133"/></a></span> </td> <td>24/09/2133 </td> <td><span style="background-color:#792900; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td><span style="background-color:#F28C28; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td>Warna bercanggah dengan PENCAK. Baju korporat & laman sesawang menggunakan warna jingga juga. </td> <td>Laman sesawang rasmi </td></tr> <tr> <td>Parti Basikal Lajak Negara (BALAJ) </td> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg/60px-USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg/90px-USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg/120px-USDOT_highway_sign_bicycle_symbol_-_white_on_green.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="653" data-file-height="379"/></a></span> </td> <td>01/01/2176 </td> <td><span style="background-color:#00923e; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td><span style="background-color:#65c400; color:; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;"> </span> </td> <td>Warna mirip dengan LARI. Warna dilaraskan agar perbezaan lebih ketara. </td> <td> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Mohon pendapat semua agar dapat kita perkemaskan rencana-rencana politik di WBM, dan seterusnya di WBI sekali. <span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999"><b><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font></a></b> - (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:EmpAhmadK" title="Perbincangan pengguna:EmpAhmadK"><font style="color:black;">bincang</font></a>)</span> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500-B._Penentuan_warna_piawai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"></span>Sebagai salah seorang penyunting bagi tema politik Malaysia, saya setuju cadangan ini. - <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Zahirulnukman" title="Pengguna:Zahirulnukman"><span style="color: black; font-family:montserrat"><b>Zahirul Nukman</b></span></a> <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ustad_abu_gosok-20240902122500-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b><br/>— <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ustad_abu_gosok" title="Pengguna:Ustad abu gosok">الأستاذ أبو ݢوصوك</a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Ustad_abu_gosok" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Ustad abu gosok">بينچڠ</a> | <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ustad_abu_gosok/%DA%A9%D9%88%D8%AA%D9%82_%DA%A4%DA%A0%DD%A2%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7" title="Pengguna:Ustad abu gosok/کوتق ڤڠݢونا">کوتق ڤڠݢونا</a>)<br/><a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Ustad_abu_gosok-20240902122500-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ustad_abu_gosok-20240902122500-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ustad_abu_gosok-20240902122500-Zahirulnukman-20240902101700"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hakimi97-20240904104200-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> dengan cadangan saudara. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Pengguna:Hakimi97">محمد حكيمي </a> (<a href="/wiki/Perbincangan_pengguna:Hakimi97" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Hakimi97">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Hakimi97-20240904104200-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hakimi97-20240904104200-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hakimi97-20240904104200-EmpAhmadK-20240902043500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240920192600"><span id="Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240920192600"></span>Larangan pautan luar jenama di AdvancedSiteNotices?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240920192600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)&action=edit&section=9" title="Sunting kod sumber bahagian: Larangan pautan luar jenama di AdvancedSiteNotices?"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kitabc12345-20240920192600-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"></span>Ada yang berpendapat bahawa Berita Wiki Cina dan Bahasa Cina Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Templat:AdvancedSiteNotices" title="Templat:AdvancedSiteNotices">AdvancedSiteNotices</a> tidak boleh menyebut secara lengkap nama jenama seperti Telegram, Instagram, Google Form dan menggunakan pautan luar ini, perlu segera <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">diperbaiki di Phabricator T375253</a>. </p><p>Saya rasa ini sangat tidak wajar, menyatakan rasa dukacita dan meminta pendapat lain. Dia berkata: "Saya sangat pasti anda tidak dibenarkan untuk menyambung atau bahkan menyebut nama jenama Telegram atau Instagram atau Google dari satu sitenotice. anda tidak boleh dari Pemberitahuan Pusat, saya tidak melihat mengapa dasar yang berbeza harus digunakan di sini. anda boleh menyambung ke halaman-halaman itu dari halaman wiki anda dan menyambung dari sitenotice ke halaman wiki itu. tetapi tidak secara langsung dari sitenotice ke laman luar. ini mendesak, mesti diperbaiki segera. (kecuali anda dapat menunjukkan kepada kami di mana seseorang mengatakan ini dibenarkan?)" </p><p>Prohibiting External Brand Links in AdvancedSiteNotices? </p><p>Some believe that the Chinese Wikinews and Chinese Wikipedia AdvancedSiteNotices should not fully mention brand names like Telegram, Instagram, Google Form, and use these external links, needing to be <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">fixed on Phabricator T375253</a> immediately. </p><p>I find this very unreasonable, express regret, and seek more opinions from you all. He said: "I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to link to or even mention the brand names Telegram or Instagram or Google from a sitenotice. you can't from a CentralNotice, I don't see why a different policy should apply here. you can link to those pages from a page on your wiki and link from the sitenotice to that page on your wiki. but not directly from sitenotice to the external site. this is urgent, must be fixed immediately. (unless you can show us where someone said this is ok?)" <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kitabc12345" title="Pengguna:Kitabc12345">Kitabc12345</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Perbincangan_pengguna:Kitabc12345&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Perbincangan pengguna:Kitabc12345 (laman tidak wujud)">bincang</a>) <a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(dasar)#c-Kitabc12345-20240920192600-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kitabc12345-20240920192600-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balas</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kitabc12345-20240920192600-Larangan_pautan_luar_jenama_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kitabc12345-20240921023800-Kitabc12345-20240920192600"></span>tetapi dia berpendapat bahawa semua wiki harus mematuhi peraturan ini, tidak kira wiki apa pun. 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