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[1903.07496] The notion of observable and the moment problem for *-algebras and their GNS representations
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If $\mathfrak{A}$ is a $*$-algebra describing a quantum system and $蠅\colon\mathfrak{A}\to\mathbb{C}$ a state, we focus in particular on the interpretation of $蠅(a)$ as expectation value for an algebraic observable $a=a^*\in\mathfrak{A}$, studying the problem of finding a probability measure reproducing the moments $\{蠅(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$. This problem enjoys a close relation with the self-adjointeness of the (in general only symmetric) operator $蟺_蠅(a)$ in the GNS representation of $蠅$ and thus it has important consequences for the interpretation of $a$ as an observable. We provide physical examples (also from QFT) where the moment problem for $\{蠅(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$ does not admit a unique solution. To reduce this ambiguity, we consider the moment problem for the sequences $\{蠅_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, being $b\in\mathfrak{A}$ and $蠅_b(\cdot):=蠅(b^*\cdot b)$. Letting $渭_{蠅_b}^{(a)}$ be a solution of the moment problem for the sequence $\{蠅_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, we introduce a consistency relation on the family $\{渭_{蠅_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$. We prove a 1-1 correspondence between consistent families $\{渭_{蠅_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ and positive operator-valued measures (POVM) associated with the symmetric operator $蟺_蠅(a)$. In particular there exists a unique consistent family of $\{渭_{蠅_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ if and only if $蟺_蠅(a)$ is maximally symmetric. 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If $\mathfrak{A}$ is a $*$-algebra describing a quantum system and $\omega\colon\mathfrak{A}\to\mathbb{C}$ a state, we focus in particular on the interpretation of $\omega(a)$ as expectation value for an algebraic observable $a=a^*\in\mathfrak{A}$, studying the problem of finding a probability measure reproducing the moments $\{\omega(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$. This problem enjoys a close relation with the self-adjointeness of the (in general only symmetric) operator $\pi_\omega(a)$ in the GNS representation of $\omega$ and thus it has important consequences for the interpretation of $a$ as an observable. We provide physical examples (also from QFT) where the moment problem for $\{\omega(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$ does not admit a unique solution. To reduce this ambiguity, we consider the moment problem for the sequences $\{\omega_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, being $b\in\mathfrak{A}$ and $\omega_b(\cdot):=\omega(b^*\cdot b)$. Letting $\mu_{\omega_b}^{(a)}$ be a solution of the moment problem for the sequence $\{\omega_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, we introduce a consistency relation on the family $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$. We prove a 1-1 correspondence between consistent families $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ and positive operator-valued measures (POVM) associated with the symmetric operator $\pi_\omega(a)$. In particular there exists a unique consistent family of $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ if and only if $\pi_\omega(a)$ is maximally symmetric. 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class="header-breadcrumbs-mobile"> <strong>arXiv:1903.07496</strong> (math-ph) </div> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/static/base/1.0.1/css/abs.css"> <div id="content-inner"> <div id="abs"> <div class="dateline"> [Submitted on 18 Mar 2019 (<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1903.07496v1">v1</a>), last revised 17 Feb 2020 (this version, v4)]</div> <h1 class="title mathjax"><span class="descriptor">Title:</span>The notion of observable and the moment problem for *-algebras and their GNS representations</h1> <div class="authors"><span class="descriptor">Authors:</span><a href="https://arxiv.org/search/math-ph?searchtype=author&query=Drago,+N" rel="nofollow">Nicol貌 Drago</a>, <a href="https://arxiv.org/search/math-ph?searchtype=author&query=Moretti,+V" rel="nofollow">Valter Moretti</a></div> <div id="download-button-info" hidden>View a PDF of the paper titled The notion of observable and the moment problem for *-algebras and their GNS representations, by Nicol\`o Drago and Valter Moretti</div> <a class="mobile-submission-download" href="/pdf/1903.07496">View PDF</a> <blockquote class="abstract mathjax"> <span class="descriptor">Abstract:</span>We address some usually overlooked issues concerning the use of $*$-algebras in quantum theory and their physical interpretation. If $\mathfrak{A}$ is a $*$-algebra describing a quantum system and $\omega\colon\mathfrak{A}\to\mathbb{C}$ a state, we focus in particular on the interpretation of $\omega(a)$ as expectation value for an algebraic observable $a=a^*\in\mathfrak{A}$, studying the problem of finding a probability measure reproducing the moments $\{\omega(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$. This problem enjoys a close relation with the self-adjointeness of the (in general only symmetric) operator $\pi_\omega(a)$ in the GNS representation of $\omega$ and thus it has important consequences for the interpretation of $a$ as an observable. We provide physical examples (also from QFT) where the moment problem for $\{\omega(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$ does not admit a unique solution. To reduce this ambiguity, we consider the moment problem for the sequences $\{\omega_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, being $b\in\mathfrak{A}$ and $\omega_b(\cdot):=\omega(b^*\cdot b)$. Letting $\mu_{\omega_b}^{(a)}$ be a solution of the moment problem for the sequence $\{\omega_b(a^n)\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}$, we introduce a consistency relation on the family $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$. We prove a 1-1 correspondence between consistent families $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ and positive operator-valued measures (POVM) associated with the symmetric operator $\pi_\omega(a)$. In particular there exists a unique consistent family of $\{\mu_{\omega_{b}}^{(a)}\}_{b\in\mathfrak{A}}$ if and only if $\pi_\omega(a)$ is maximally symmetric. This result suggests that a better physical understanding of the notion of observable for general $*$-algebras should be based on POVMs rather than projection-valued measure (PVM). </blockquote> <!--CONTEXT--> <div class="metatable"> <table summary="Additional metadata"> <tr> <td class="tablecell label">Comments:</td> <td class="tablecell comments mathjax">44 pages, no figures, accepted for publication in Letters in Mathematical Physics</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="tablecell label">Subjects:</td> <td class="tablecell subjects"> <span class="primary-subject">Mathematical Physics (math-ph)</span>; High Energy Physics - Theory (hep-th); Operator Algebras (math.OA)</td> </tr><tr> <td class="tablecell label">Cite as:</td> <td class="tablecell arxivid"><span class="arxivid"><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1903.07496">arXiv:1903.07496</a> [math-ph]</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="tablecell label"> </td> <td class="tablecell arxividv">(or <span class="arxivid"> <a 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