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decoding="async" width="43" height="24" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg/65px-Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg/86px-Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg 2x" data-file-width="997" data-file-height="557"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/World_War_II_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/World War II task force">World War II task force</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pogrom_or_massacre_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pogrom_or_massacre_?-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"><span id="Pogrom_or_massacre_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pogrom_or_massacre_?-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"></span>Pogrom or massacre ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pogrom_or_massacre_?-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Pogrom or massacre ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vassyana-2008-02-17T08:13:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result was <i>no consensus</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Vassyana" title="User:Vassyana">Vassyana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vassyana" title="User talk:Vassyana">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Vassyana-2008-02-17T08:13:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vassyana-2008-02-17T08:13:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vassyana-2008-02-17T08:13:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>The article informs about a Nazi massacre of 1400-1500 Jews so the title should be rather <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tykocin_massacre&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tykocin massacre (page does not exist)">Tykocin massacre</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-29T19:27:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"></span>Not really. The massacre in the Łopuchowski forest was the culmination of the tree day long pogrom. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-29T19:27:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-29T19:27:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-29T19:27:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-29T13:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>In another words furniture is more important than human lives. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T07:54:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z"></span>Sadly, it seems so. The Poles wanted their belonging so much that they could not even wait for Germans to kill the Jews. They treated them as dead already. Polish police would make sure that Jews get no food in Tykocin. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-30T07:54:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T07:54:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T07:54:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T07:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>Polish police</i>? Emotions aren't tools to write a non-POV article.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T09:11:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z"></span>I agree. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-30T09:11:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T09:11:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T09:11:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T08:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>It's not a subject for jokes.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T11:15:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z"></span>What is your problem then, specifically ? So far, I agree with you that "Emotions aren't tools to write a non-POV article" and "It's not a subject for jokes." --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-30T11:15:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T11:15:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T11:15:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T10:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>You have written <i>:-)</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:20:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z"></span>I smiled at you. Smile is a common sign used to indicate that one has no evil intentions towards someone else. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:20:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:20:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:20:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T12:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>The new source doesn't confirm the pogrom story. The mentioned <i>Polish police</i> is apparently a self-made militia, not a Polish state police nor the Blue police.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:28:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z"></span>You may be right. Still, Encyclopaedia Judaica mentions Polish police, too. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html">check e.g. this link</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:28:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:28:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-30T17:28:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-30T15:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>It was outside GG so there was no Blue Police there. According to many sources it was the <i>auxillary police</i> ie. Hilfspolizei, not formally organised yet, and local civilians. The Hilfspolizei was German organisation, even if ethnically Polish, Belarus or Lithuanian. So eventually <i>German-Polish police</i>, but <i>Polish police</i> means a police organised by the Polish government and the London government certainly didn't organise the Hilfspolize. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T09:56:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z"></span>It might be a militia organized by Germans from Poles. In that sense it was "Polish". Blue Police was obviously wrong and I have already corrected that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-31T09:56:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T09:56:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T09:56:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T09:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>So the meaning of <i>Polish</i> should be explained to the reader from Korea or Mali, who doeasn't know anything about history of Central Europe.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T10:36:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z"></span>Done. In fact this article is badly missing scholarly sources. Has there been no historical research or book on Tykocin pogrom written yet ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Lysy" title="User:Lysy">Lysy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysy" title="User talk:Lysy">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Lysy-2008-01-31T10:36:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T10:36:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysy-2008-01-31T10:36:00.000Z-Xx236-2008-01-31T10:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-02-01T10:33:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span>Wokół Jedwabnego</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://wysylkowa.pl/ks552328.html">[1]</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-02-01T10:33:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-02-01T10:33:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-02-01T10:33:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z"><span id="Doubtful_title.2C_doubtful_text"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z"></span>Doubtful title, doubtful text<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Doubtful title, doubtful text"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text"></span>The basic text is available in Polish <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.kirkuty.xip.pl/tykocinzeznania.htm">[2]</a>. It's written by a Jew, so rather doesn't whitewash the Poles. </p><p>The <i>pogrom</i> took place days before the massacre, local peasants robbed Jewish homes. Later Germans organized the execution. The current title misinforms. The Holocaust wasn't a series of <i>pogroms</i>, but a planned extermination. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2008-08-01T08:18:00.000Z-Doubtful_title,_doubtful_text"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="?" data-mw-thread-id="h-?-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z"><span id=".3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-?-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z"></span>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-?-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DumnyPolak-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z-?"></span>"and executed by a militia organized by Germans from local Poles the next day." [4] </p><p>[4] Encyclopaedia Judaica </p><p>Where is any note to that? Page from the Encyclopedia? Anything? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DumnyPolak&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DumnyPolak (page does not exist)">DumnyPolak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DumnyPolak" title="User talk:DumnyPolak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-DumnyPolak-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z-?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DumnyPolak-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z-?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DumnyPolak-2009-04-25T03:18:00.000Z-?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="It_was_a_German_organized_massacre" data-mw-thread-id="h-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z"></span>It was a German organized massacre<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: It was a German organized massacre"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre"></span>The name "pogrom" misinforms.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) 13:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewsandPoles/message/111">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewsandPoles/message/111</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2009-11-02T13:38:00.000Z-It_was_a_German_organized_massacre"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z"></span>The title should be <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tykocin_massacre&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tykocin massacre (page does not exist)">Tykocin massacre</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: The title should be Tykocin massacre"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre"></span>According to Encyclopaedia Judaica <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html">http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html</a> pogrom (looting) and massacre were separate events. The massacre was obviously more important than the looting.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) 11:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewsandPoles/message/111">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewsandPoles/message/111</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2009-11-04T11:01:00.000Z-The_title_should_be_Tykocin_massacre"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_28_November_2017" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_28_November_2017-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_28_November_2017-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 28 November 2017<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_28_November_2017-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Requested move 28 November 2017"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrewa-2017-12-05T11:13:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>not moved</b>. No support nor prospect of consensus to move. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrewa" title="User:Andrewa">Andrewa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrewa" title="User talk:Andrewa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Andrewa-2017-12-05T11:13:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrewa-2017-12-05T11:13:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrewa-2017-12-05T11:13:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><br/> <a href="/wiki/Tykocin_pogrom" class="mw-redirect" title="Tykocin pogrom"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"></span>Tykocin pogrom</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tykocin_massacre&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tykocin massacre (page does not exist)">Tykocin massacre</a>? – The massacre was more important than the pogrom (looting). <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_28_November_2017"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. <a href="/wiki/Pogrom" title="Pogrom">Pogrom</a> means more than just looting, it can also include massacre - in fact usually it means massacre, not looting. Polish Wikipedia also uses the word pogrom. I don't see any need to change the article's name. It is clear as it is. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:18:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"></span>Pogrom means pogrom and mass execution by Germans is a mass execution by Germans. Was Babi Yar a site of a pogrom? No - it was a <i>site of massacres</i>. There is a Category <i>Holocaust massacres and pogroms</i>. Why not <i>Holocaust pogroms</i>? From <a href="/wiki/Pogrom" title="Pogrom">Pogrom</a> <i>During World War II, Nazi German death squads encouraged local populations in German-occupied Europe to commit pogroms against Jews.</i> <i>A large number of pogroms occurred during the Holocaust at the hands of non-Germans.</i></dd> <dd>Even if I accept your logic, so there were two <i>pogroms</i>, not one. Two apples are apples, not an apple.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:18:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:18:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:18:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"></span>Which source says <i>Tykocin pogrom</i>? <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-11-28T11:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2017-11-28T10:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Poeticbent-2017-11-28T18:39:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. Some commentators prefer to speak about all anti-Jewish actions as pogroms even if no-one dies, or if just one Jewish person died by chance or by accident, see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3AMassacres_or_pogroms_against_Jews&type=revision&diff=797352343&oldid=797350380">the 2015 Dutch incident discussion</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w_pogrom" title="Kraków pogrom">Kraków pogrom</a>. Pogrom is a content word, similar to antisemitism. The term antisemitism can be used equally to explain the annihilation of Jews in the Holocaust, as well as ulterior motives of North American teenagers who spray-paint swastikas on walls. In essence, the pogrom doesn't mean anything specific nowadays.<sup id="cite_ref-Bren_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Bren-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> That's why it should stay. Historians confirm that the peasants were looting Jewish property (without hearsay exaggerations), and that's enough of a reason to keep it. However, If no-one dies, it should always be stated for the reader that the looting occurred. Grabbing things involved many millions of people those days everywhere in Europe, see the <a href="/wiki/Hungarian_Gold_Train" title="Hungarian Gold Train">Hungarian Gold Train</a> for example. On the other hand, shooting actions usually don't have articles in English Wikipedia, see hundreds of locations provided in the <a href="/wiki/Einsatzgruppen_reports" title="Einsatzgruppen reports">Einsatzgruppen reports</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Poeticbent" title="User:Poeticbent"><span style="color:darkblue;font-family:Papyrus">Poeticbent</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Poeticbent" title="User talk:Poeticbent"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;font-size:7.0pt;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Poeticbent-2017-11-28T18:39:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Poeticbent-2017-11-28T18:39:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Poeticbent-2017-11-28T18:39:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-11-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"></div></dd></dl> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-Bren-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Bren_1-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.ca/books?id=JqRFgZbvsu0C&q=%22one+person+died%22+pogrom">Controlling Knowledge</a></i> By Louis Brenner, p. 124. ISBN 0253339170.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z"><span id="Tykocin_massacre_.28pogrom.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Tykocin massacre (pogrom)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Tykocin massacre (pogrom)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span>It's the only sourced name from a description of pictures. It seems you use an unsourced name.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:22:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jewishbialystok.pl/Remembering_the_Tykocin_Jews,_the_76th_massacre_anniversary_,5407,3198"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:24:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span>https://www.jewishbialystok.pl/Remembering_the_Tykocin_Jews,_the_76th_massacre_anniversary_,5407,3198</a> - massacre.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:24:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:24:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:24:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:26:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span>An academic book by Polonsky and Michlic <i>The Neighbors Respond: The Controversy over the Jedwabne Massacre in Poland</i>.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:26:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:26:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:26:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span></dd> <dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:31:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span>Antisemitism</i> and <i>pogroms</i> are native to mostly Eastern Europe. It's true the words aren't precisely defined, which makes them effective tools of propaganda. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:31:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:31:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:31:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:35:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span>One pogrom, but two <b>pogroms</b>.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:35:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:35:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2017-12-13T13:35:00.000Z-Tykocin_massacre_(pogrom)"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia" data-mw-thread-id="h-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z"></span><i>up to 1.5 million ethnic Poles to Siberia</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: up to 1.5 million ethnic Poles to Siberia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia"></span>Controversial statement. Probably less than 1.5 million, Many of them to Kasakhstan, which isn't Siberia.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2018-04-17T12:52:00.000Z-up_to_1.5_million_ethnic_Poles_to_Siberia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pogrom_or_massacre?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pogrom_or_massacre?-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"><span id="Pogrom_or_massacre.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pogrom_or_massacre?-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Pogrom or massacre?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pogrom_or_massacre?-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Pogrom or massacre?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre?"></span>The time is running, noone is interested.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 19 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z-Pogrom_or_massacre?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Icewhiz-2018-11-19T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"></span>I don't have a really strong concrete opinion on the title - though it might split - e.g. the events in June may be properly described as pogrom, and the mass shooting by the Germans (with local assistance) as a massacre. The Polish wiki rolls with pogrom (though it looks like a straight up translation of the English wiki). The Hebrew wiki uses "Destruction of the Tykocin Jewish community" which may also be accurate.<a href="/wiki/User:Icewhiz" title="User:Icewhiz">Icewhiz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Icewhiz" title="User talk:Icewhiz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Icewhiz-2018-11-19T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Icewhiz-2018-11-19T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Icewhiz-2018-11-19T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-19T11:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kapica_or_Kapice?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kapica_or_Kapice?-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z"><span id="Kapica_or_Kapice.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kapica_or_Kapice?-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z"></span>Kapica or Kapice?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kapica_or_Kapice?-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Kapica or Kapice?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z-Kapica_or_Kapice?"></span>Polish sources use <i>Kapica</i>. It's a Polish and Russian last name, Russian quoted here as <a href="/wiki/Kapitsa" title="Kapitsa">Kapitsa</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z-Kapica_or_Kapice?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z-Kapica_or_Kapice?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z-Kapica_or_Kapice?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Icewhiz-2018-11-20T11:22:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z"></span>Kapice follows the cited source. Agree it seems Kapica can be verified from Polish language source (perhaps we could add one to the article?). Spelling of names that originated in Yiddish/Polish/Russian (usually multiple variants originally) through transliterations/adaptations to English (at times via Hebrew) is generally a mess.<a href="/wiki/User:Icewhiz" title="User:Icewhiz">Icewhiz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Icewhiz" title="User talk:Icewhiz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mass_murders_in_Tykocin#c-Icewhiz-2018-11-20T11:22:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Icewhiz-2018-11-20T11:22:00.000Z-Xx236-2018-11-20T10:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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