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border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Classicwiki-20240512015000-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Copyeditor_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Copyeditor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Comma, <a href="/wiki/User:Classicwiki" title="User:Classicwiki">Classicwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Classicwiki" title="User talk:Classicwiki">talk</a>)<span style="font-size:85%;"> If you reply here, please <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ECHO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ECHO">ping me</a>.</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tenneseoy#c-Classicwiki-20240512015000-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Classicwiki-20240512015000-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Classicwiki-20240512015000-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Silly_commas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Silly_commas-20240602033400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Silly_commas-20240602033400"></span>Silly commas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Silly_commas-20240602033400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tenneseoy&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Silly commas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-20240602033400-Silly_commas"></span>Hi, thanks for your contributions, <i>except</i> that you're adding commonly used but useless commas—especially those at the start of a sentence: "In 2011, we did this." I spend time removing these pimples. <a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tenneseoy#c-Tony1-20240602033400-Silly_commas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-20240602033400-Silly_commas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-20240602033400-Silly_commas"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dolphin51-20240602113500-Tony1-20240602033400"></span>Hi Tenneseoy. I agree with Tony1. On 30 May you edited the article <a href="/wiki/MacRobertson_Miller_Airlines_Flight_1750" title="MacRobertson Miller Airlines Flight 1750">MacRobertson Miller Airlines Flight 1750</a>. See your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MacRobertson_Miller_Airlines_Flight_1750&diff=prev&oldid=1226460752">diff</a>. Your edits consist primarily of inserting commas after dates. The dates are written in the format <i>dd month year</i> without any intervening comma. Wikipedia does not use a comma to conclude dates written in this format.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>At <a href="/wiki/MOS:DATE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DATE">MOS:DATE</a> there is a table titled “Acceptable date formats”. The first line in this table shows dates written without an intervening comma. The example given is “2 September 2001”. The comments accompanying the first line say <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">A comma doesn't follow the year unless otherwise required by context:</q> The example given is “The 5 May 1922 meeting was cancelled.”</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>I believe your insertion of commas in the above article was incorrect so I will revert the edit. Feel free to discuss on the article Talk page.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>I notice from your list of User contributions that most of your edits involve the insertion of commas. Minor changes of this kind, changing from one generally acceptable style to another generally acceptable style is strongly discouraged. Unless there is a convincing reason for making such a change it looks like imposing your personal preference. Wikipedia’s guidelines state: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">When either of two styles is acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change</q> – please read <a href="/wiki/MOS:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:VAR">MOS:VAR</a>. I suggest you take a break from inserting commas into mature articles until you have studied the guidelines provided at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a>. Happy editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Dolphin51" title="User:Dolphin51"><i style="color: green;"><i>Dolphin</i></i></a> <i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dolphin51" title="User talk:Dolphin51"><span style="color: blue;">t</span></a>)</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tenneseoy#c-Dolphin51-20240602113500-Tony1-20240602033400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dolphin51-20240602113500-Tony1-20240602033400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dolphin51-20240602113500-Tony1-20240602033400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dolphin51-20240603113900-Dolphin51-20240602113500"></span>Hi Tenneseoy. I see you have added some commas to numbers consisting of 4 significant digits. See your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre&diff=prev&oldid=1226957995">diff 1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_Fleet&diff=prev&oldid=1226813452">diff 2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firozabad_rail_collision&diff=prev&oldid=1226812582">diff 3</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgetown_University_Law_Center&diff=prev&oldid=1226809308">diff 4</a>. This is incorrect.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>At <a href="/wiki/MOS:DIGITS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DIGITS">MOS:DIGITS</a> Wikipedia specifies the following guidelines: <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Left of the decimal point, five or more digits are grouped into threes separated by commas.</q></dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Numbers with exactly four digits left of the decimal point may optionally be grouped consistently within any given article.</q></dd></dl></dd> <dd></dd> <dd>This means numbers with exactly four digits may be written with a comma between the first and second digits, or alternatively may be written with no comma. Within any given article all four-digit numbers should be written the same for consistency. Editors may change a four-digit number from one format to the other <i>to achieve consistency</i>, but should not make this change as a matter of personal preference.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>At <a href="/wiki/MOS:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:VAR">MOS:VAR</a> it is explained that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The Arbitration Committee has expressed the principle that "When either of two styles is acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change."</q> If you are switching from one acceptable style to another for what you believe to be a substantial reason, you should mention that substantial reason in your edit summary. If the edit summary makes no attempt to identify a substantial reason for making a switch of this kind, other Users are entitled to assume that no substantial reason exists; they are likely to revert your edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Dolphin51" title="User:Dolphin51"><i style="color: green;"><i>Dolphin</i></i></a> <i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dolphin51" title="User talk:Dolphin51"><span style="color: blue;">t</span></a>)</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tenneseoy#c-Dolphin51-20240603113900-Dolphin51-20240602113500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dolphin51-20240603113900-Dolphin51-20240602113500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dolphin51-20240603113900-Dolphin51-20240602113500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-20240603132200-Dolphin51-20240603113900"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tenneseoy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tenneseoy (page does not exist)">Tenneseoy</a> If you're adding a comma to preserve consistency, then it would be good to (a) say so in an edit summary, and (b) do it thoroughly: I looked at the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre&diff=prev&oldid=1226957995">first</a> of those diffs above, and see that you added a comma to one 4-digit number... yes, the majority of the 4-digit numbers in the article have a comma, so it seems to be the established style, but were several more which didn't have commas and could usefully be corrected. The article had been carelessly edited, with "1500" and "1,500" on adjacent lines at one point. I've added a couple more commas (and internationalised some measurements while I was there). <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tenneseoy#c-PamD-20240603132200-Dolphin51-20240603113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-20240603132200-Dolphin51-20240603113900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-20240603132200-Dolphin51-20240603113900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dolphin51-20240609102200-Silly_commas"></span>Hi Tenneseoy. In the discussion thread immediately above, three Users, including me, have written to you about your practice of inserting commas into mature articles. Sadly you have not replied to any of these requests, nor to any of the three Users. </p><p>I have noticed that despite the requests from other Users you are continuing to insert commas in places where they are unnecessary. Your insertion of many of these commas is switching from one acceptable sentence construction to another, presumably motivated by your personal preference for having a comma at certain points in a sentence. At <a href="/wiki/MOS:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:VAR">MOS:VAR</a> it is explained that the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee has stated that switching from one acceptable format to another without a substantial reason is unacceptable. </p><p>You have shown no sign that you understand what these three Users are requesting so I have reverted 20 of your inappropriate edits. I hope that reverting your edits will help you understand that Wikipedia is serious on this matter. Please try to understand that your insertion of unnecessary commas is unacceptable, and it must stop. </p><p>If you continue to insert multiple unnecessary commas without edit summaries that show you have a substantial reason for doing so, it is likely that your actions will be drawn to the attention of the appropriate body of senior Users. 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