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Isn’t enough with one of these?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_2' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/mcliquid'><span itemprop='name'>mcliquid</span></a> (mcliquid) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T08:42:25Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 8:42am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T08:42:25Z'> <span itemprop='position'>2</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p><strong><code>layer</code></strong> is used to define the vertical stacking order of overlapping map elements (like bridges or tunnels) to avoid visual confusion in rendering, while <strong><code>level</code></strong> indicates the physical floor within a building, crucial for indoor mapping. Or how would you indicate when one object is above another even though it is on the same floor?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="8" /> <span class='post-likes'>8 Likes</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_3' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Msiipola'><span itemprop='name'>Msiipola</span></a> (Msiipola) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T08:45:31Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 8:45am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T08:45:31Z'> <span itemprop='position'>3</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="mcliquid" data-post="2" data-topic="122191"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/mcliquid/48/588_2.png" class="avatar"> mcliquid:</div> <blockquote> <p>Or how would you indicate when one object is above another even though it is on the same floor?</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>Different layers?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <span class='post-likes'>2 Likes</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_4' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Herwescheluc'><span itemprop='name'>Herwescheluc</span></a> (Andreas) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T08:48:50Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 8:48am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T08:48:50Z'> <span itemprop='position'>4</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>All you have to know to understand the difference you will find at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer">Key:layer</a> and <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:level">Key:level</a>.</p> <p>But most importantly, these tags can even be combined!<br> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=12" title=":wink:" class="emoji only-emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_5' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/mcliquid'><span itemprop='name'>mcliquid</span></a> (mcliquid) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T09:02:31Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 9:02am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T09:02:31Z'> <span itemprop='position'>5</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="Msiipola" data-post="3" data-topic="122191"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/msiipola/48/8396_2.png" class="avatar"> Msiipola:</div> <blockquote> <p>Different layers?</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>Think of a passenger lift in a multi-storey building or in a train station. How do you use <code>layer</code> to indicate which floors this lift serves?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_6' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Msiipola'><span itemprop='name'>Msiipola</span></a> (Msiipola) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T10:12:13Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 10:12am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T10:12:13Z'> <span itemprop='position'>6</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="Herwescheluc" data-post="4" data-topic="122191"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/herwescheluc/48/16454_2.png" class="avatar"> Herwescheluc:</div> <blockquote> <p>All you have to know to understand the difference you will find at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer">Key:layer</a> and <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:level">Key:level</a>.</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>If the wiki had told me what I asked for, I haven’t post the question here.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="1" /> <span class='post-likes'>1 Like</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_7' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Msiipola'><span itemprop='name'>Msiipola</span></a> (Msiipola) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T10:18:42Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 10:18am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T10:18:42Z'> <span itemprop='position'>7</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="mcliquid" data-post="5" data-topic="122191"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/mcliquid/48/588_2.png" class="avatar"> mcliquid:</div> <blockquote> <p>How do you use <code>layer</code> to indicate which floors this lift serves?</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>If it’s important to show on what floor something is (same number as on the lift buttons), then maybe level is correct to use.</p> <p>As I never do any indoor mapping, maybe I misunderstand something. Never mind.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_8' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Jofban'><span itemprop='name'>Jofban</span></a> (Jofban) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T10:41:04Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 10:41am </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T10:41:04Z'> <span itemprop='position'>8</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Another difference between the two is that <code>layer</code> is in a sense purely fictional and highly localised.<br> <code>layer=1</code> can mean wildly different actual vertical difference, even over just a few meters. To cite the article:</p> <blockquote> <p>The vertical ordering established by the layer values is valid exactly only in the precise location (not marked by a node) where the ways cross or objects overlap.</p> </blockquote> <p>On the other hand, <code>level</code> directly references otg, real floors, which sometimes don’t even have a number. So there is some objective reference as to what <code>level=1</code> means.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="4" /> <span class='post-likes'>4 Likes</span> </div> </div> <div id='post_9' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/supsup'><span itemprop='name'>supsup</span></a> </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T13:26:45Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 1:26pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T17:09:19Z'> <span itemprop='position'>9</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="Msiipola" data-post="6" data-topic="122191"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/msiipola/48/8396_2.png" class="avatar"> Msiipola:</div> <blockquote> <p>If the wiki had told me what I asked for, I haven’t post the question here.</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>I do agree that the wiki answers the <em>how</em> here but not the <em>why</em>.</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_10' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/karlos'><span itemprop='name'>karlos</span></a> (Karl-Josef Adler) </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T16:32:12Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 4:32pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T16:32:12Z'> <span itemprop='position'>10</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Now, things clarifyed, could you add this/the why into the wiki pages please?</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> <div id='post_11' itemprop='comment' itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/Comment' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" rel='nofollow' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/supsup'><span itemprop='name'>supsup</span></a> </span> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time itemprop='datePublished' datetime='2024-11-27T17:09:07Z' class='post-time'> November 27, 2024, 5:09pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-27T17:09:07Z'> <span itemprop='position'>11</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>that for <a class="mention" href="/u/msiipola">@msiipola</a> or somebody 3kse, I find both pages highly confusing and do not feel confident to edit them, actually. 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