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I noticed your participation in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Law" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Law">WP:Law</a> and am asking for your assistance with <a href="/wiki/Talk:Jay_Clayton_(attorney)#New_content" title="Talk:Jay Clayton (attorney)"> a request I have posted on the Talk page</a> for <a href="/wiki/Jay_Clayton_(attorney)" title="Jay Clayton (attorney)">Jay Clayton (attorney)</a>. As I have a <a href="/wiki/User:Blackseneca" title="User:Blackseneca"> COI</a> with Mr. Clayton, I can't modify the article myself. A different responding editor had some input about the references; he took issue with the exact wording of some of the content. I'd be willing to revise my suggested language based on your input and would implement directly if you approve. I appreciate your time and review. Looking forward to working with you to make these additions, <a href="/wiki/User:Blackseneca" title="User:Blackseneca">Blackseneca</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blackseneca&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Blackseneca (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Blackseneca-20241028142400-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blackseneca-20241028142400-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blackseneca-20241028142400-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029044700-Blackseneca-20241028142400"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Blackseneca" title="User:Blackseneca">Blackseneca</a>—thanks for following the rules on conflicts of interest. I don't generally deal with these myself, but if you add <code>{{Edit COI}}</code> to the top of your request, it will go into the queue and someone will eventually give you a decision on it. Before you do that, you'll want to address the concerns Drmies brought up. The wording one is straightforward (just change "serves as an advisor" to "is an advisor"), but the sourcing one is a bit trickier. Generally you'll be on the strongest ground if you can cite reliable news reports like Reuters; Coindesk <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COINDESK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COINDESK">isn't considered reliable</a>, and some of the others are in more of a gray area. It's your choice how much to ask for, but requests that are short, simple, and supported by strong references are most likely to be approved quickly. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029044700-Blackseneca-20241028142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029044700-Blackseneca-20241028142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029044700-Blackseneca-20241028142400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)-20241028201900"><span id="Question_from_Iacowriter_.2820:19.2C_28_October_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)-20241028201900"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (20:19, 28 October 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)-20241028201900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Question from Iacowriter (20:19, 28 October 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241028201900-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)"></span>Hi. I guess some admin are mad at me because I don’t know how to round numbers. I need help on that. I was never taught that in school. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241028201900-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241028201900-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241028201900-Question_from_Iacowriter_(20:19,_28_October_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300-Iacowriter-20241028201900"></span>Hello <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a>. Suppose a film grossed $579,985,450 and we want to shorten it to millions. The number is between $579 million and $580 million, but which one is it closest to? It's much closer to $580 million, so that's the number we use in the infobox and the article. That's all rounding is, although you can look at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.mathsisfun.com/rounding-numbers.html">this explanation</a> if you want more information. Please let me know if you have other questions about this.<br/>I'm sorry to see you've gotten so many warnings from other editors. The two things I would suggest are: 1) always write something in the edit summary field and 2) if someone undoes one of your edits, never restore it yourself. When someone says you've done something wrong, it's really important to make sure you <i>understand</i> what they're saying; if you don't understand, ask someone (like me!) for help before making similar edits. It's fine to make a mistake, but people will get frustrated if you keep making the same mistake over and over again. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300-Iacowriter-20241028201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300-Iacowriter-20241028201900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300-Iacowriter-20241028201900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241029121600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300"></span>Oh, i’ve seen this before. The problem was that everybody was just giving me a hard time at school. I must’ve forgotten about this, and got very confused on stuff like this nowadays. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241029121600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241029121600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241029121600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241029041300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)-20241029180500"><span id="Question_from_Iacowriter_.2818:05.2C_29_October_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)-20241029180500"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (18:05, 29 October 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)-20241029180500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Question from Iacowriter (18:05, 29 October 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241029180500-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)"></span>Hi. When I’m adding Of the box office is for Winnie the Pooh, Batman, and Spider-Man, did these films count to include? </p><p>The Blood and Honey movies </p><p>Captain America: Civil War </p><p>Batman Vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice </p><p>The Lego Movie </p><p>Lego Movie 2 </p><p>Avengers: Infinity War </p><p>Avengers: Endgame </p><p>Justice League </p><p>Suicide Squad </p><p>Superpets </p><p>The Flash --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241029180500-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241029180500-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241029180500-Question_from_Iacowriter_(18:05,_29_October_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300-Iacowriter-20241029180500"></span>Iacowriter</a>, for issues like these, Wikipedia articles try to follow the sources. If you're referring to the <a href="/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises" title="List of highest-grossing media franchises">List of highest-grossing media franchises</a> article, the box office figures there are mainly cited to entries on <a href="/wiki/The_Numbers_(website)" title="The Numbers (website)">The Numbers</a>, so you should just use their data rather than deciding yourself which films to count. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300-Iacowriter-20241029180500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300-Iacowriter-20241029180500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300-Iacowriter-20241029180500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241030174700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300"></span>Ok… sorry… <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241030174700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241030174700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241030174700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241030080300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)-20241101044900"><span id="Question_from_Hectorinaaa_.2804:49.2C_1_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)-20241101044900"></span>Question from <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a> (04:49, 1 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)-20241101044900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Question from Hectorinaaa (04:49, 1 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)"></span>how do I cite a certificate? --<a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hectorinaaa" title="User talk:Hectorinaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(04:49,_1_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241101084600-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a>. There are no specific requirements, so you should be fine if you just include the URL, the title of the document, the website where you found it, and anything else that seems relevant. As long as it's clear where the information came from, that's all that matters. By the way, since death certificates are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">primary sources</a>, it's important to use them carefully: citing them for a birth/death date (like you're doing) is just fine, but for less straightforward claims, secondary sources are preferred. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241101084600-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241101084600-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241101084600-Hectorinaaa-20241101044900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)-20241102033600"><span id="Question_from_Hectorinaaa_.2803:36.2C_2_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)-20241102033600"></span>Question from <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a> (03:36, 2 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)-20241102033600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Question from Hectorinaaa (03:36, 2 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)"></span>Is this article good? <a href="/wiki/Isabelle_Pinson" title="Isabelle Pinson">Isabelle Pinson</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hectorinaaa" title="User talk:Hectorinaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600-Question_from_Hectorinaaa_(03:36,_2_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241102082500-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Hectorinaaa" title="User:Hectorinaaa">Hectorinaaa</a>. Very nice work: the article has everything it needs. If the sources say anything else about the style of her paintings or what made them distinctive, that might be worth adding...but the article is perfectly fine as it is. Keep up the good work! <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241102082500-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241102082500-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241102082500-Hectorinaaa-20241102033600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hectorinaaa-20241102150000-Extraordinary_Writ-20241102082500"></span>Thank you! <a 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Please can you help to find that template ? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BioGPT&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BioGPT (page does not exist)">BioGPT</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BioGPT&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:BioGPT (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-BioGPT-20241106212600-Question_from_BioGPT_(21:26,_6_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BioGPT-20241106212600-Question_from_BioGPT_(21:26,_6_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BioGPT-20241106212600-Question_from_BioGPT_(21:26,_6_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241107105100-BioGPT-20241106212600"></span>Hello <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BioGPT&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BioGPT (page does not exist)">BioGPT</a>! <a href="/wiki/Template:Biography" title="Template:Biography">This template</a> may be what you're looking for: you can use it by copying <code>{{subst:Biography}}</code> onto a page and clicking "publish changes". (It gives some example sections to work with, but you'll probably want to remove some and add others.) Another option is to just find an article you like and copy its formatting, organization, etc. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard" title="Wikipedia:Article wizard">Article Wizard</a> will walk you through the process of creating a draft page where you can play around with things like this before you submit it for review. Let me know if you have any questions or run into any issues along the way. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241107105100-BioGPT-20241106212600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241107105100-BioGPT-20241106212600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241107105100-BioGPT-20241106212600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)-20241107203000"><span id="Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_.2820:30.2C_7_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)-20241107203000"></span>Question from <a href="/wiki/User:Gab_Bois_Studio" title="User:Gab Bois Studio">Gab Bois Studio</a> (20:30, 7 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)-20241107203000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Question from Gab Bois Studio (20:30, 7 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)"></span>Hi !! I'm trying to find where the modifications I added went, and how I can keep working on them? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gab_Bois_Studio" title="User:Gab Bois Studio">Gab Bois Studio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gab_Bois_Studio" title="User talk:Gab Bois Studio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000-Question_from_Gab_Bois_Studio_(20:30,_7_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gab_Bois_Studio" title="User:Gab Bois Studio"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108103300-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000"></span>Gab Bois Studio</a>: It looks like someone undid your changes, giving the reason "Unsourced, Narrative, external links in body of article". I know that can be frustrating. You can still access what you wrote at <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1255829364" title="Special:PermanentLink/1255829364">this link</a>, but think about ways to address the concerns that were raised. Adding references is probably the most important thing you can do: if you click the button that says "Cite" while you're editing, it will help you add a citation in the right format. Also, keeping articles neutral is important, so words like "stunning", "clever", "instantly recognizable", "infamous", etc. can sometimes rub people the wrong way. I know that's a normal way to write about art, but on Wikipedia it's better to stick to "just the facts". Hopefully this helps...let me know if you have any questions. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108103300-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108103300-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108103300-Gab_Bois_Studio-20241107203000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)-20241107193700"><span id="Question_from_Iacowriter_.2819:37.2C_7_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)-20241107193700"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (19:37, 7 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)-20241107193700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Question from Iacowriter (19:37, 7 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241107193700-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)"></span>I said Spider-Man is now worth $26,664,582,784. What should I put for the actual number as I am trying to round it? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241107193700-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241107193700-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241107193700-Question_from_Iacowriter_(19:37,_7_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100-Iacowriter-20241107193700"></span>Iacowriter</a>, the number is in between $26.6 billion and $26.7 billion, so those are your two possibilities. Which one is it closest to? It's closer to $26.7 billion, so that's your answer. Another way of thinking about it: in this example we're rounding to three digits, so look at the <i>fourth</i> digit. If that number is a 5 or greater, you round up to $26.7 billion; if it's a 4 or lower, you round down to $26.6 billion. In this case it's a 6, so we round up to $26.7 billion. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100-Iacowriter-20241107193700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100-Iacowriter-20241107193700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100-Iacowriter-20241107193700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241108141700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100"></span>Thank you. I wasn’t taught that much in school. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241108141700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241108141700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241108141700-Extraordinary_Writ-20241108105100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat" data-mw-thread-id="h-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat-20241112111900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat-20241112111900"></span>RM at <a href="/wiki/Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat" title="Talk:First Battle of Panipat">Talk:First Battle of Panipat</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat-20241112111900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: RM at Talk:First Battle of Panipat"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinderella157-20241112111900-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat"></span>Hi, given that I in particular refuted any argument for consistency, I am curious as to how you conclude: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The consistency argument isn't so weak that I as a closer can disregard it</q>. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Cinderella157" title="User:Cinderella157">Cinderella157</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinderella157" title="User talk:Cinderella157">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Cinderella157-20241112111900-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinderella157-20241112111900-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cinderella157-20241112111900-RM_at_Talk:First_Battle_of_Panipat"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Cinderella157" title="User:Cinderella157"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300-Cinderella157-20241112111900"></span>Cinderella157</a>, consistency is never the strongest argument out there, but the only way I could close that discussion as moved would be if I gave it zero weight, and that's not something I can do: it does have some basis in policy, and while you and SMcCandlish reasonably argued it shouldn't govern, ultimately others didn't agree. I don't think it's fair to say the opposers weren't making a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSISTENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSISTENT">WP:CONSISTENT</a> argument; PadFoot, for instance, pretty clearly is. In another RM I might come down differently, but when this is combined with Amakuru's entirely separate concerns, I don't see how I could find a consensus here. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300-Cinderella157-20241112111900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300-Cinderella157-20241112111900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300-Cinderella157-20241112111900"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinderella157-20241117025000-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"></span>Amakuru's entirely separate concerns are based on a superficial review of the ngram evidence - ie without considering <i>context</i> and that ngrams do not distinguish expected uses of title case (eg headings, captions and citations) versus usage in prose (what we need to consider) or that ngrams can often be contexturalised to give a better picture of usage in prose. This is something well established by <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Determining_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines</a></q> (per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">WP:RM</a>) and explicitly stated in response to Amakuru. <a href="/wiki/User:Cinderella157" title="User:Cinderella157">Cinderella157</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinderella157" title="User talk:Cinderella157">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Cinderella157-20241117025000-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinderella157-20241117025000-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cinderella157-20241117025000-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinderella157-20241114015200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"></span>Thank you for the reply. I didn't say that all opposers weren't making an argument invoking <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSISTENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSISTENT">WP:CONSISTENT</a> though in truth, I may have misunderstood a comment made by Noorullah. However, what I said about the distinction between WP:CONSISTENT and WP:OTHERCONTENT is no less valid. Invoking a shortcut does not mean that the linked P&G <i>reasonably</i> applies and/or that the P&G has been <i>reasonably</i> construed (or misconstrued). One cannot simply take a presumed meaning of a shortcut word (<i>consistent</i>) as representing the P&G linked by the shortcut. The meaning is established by the linked text <i>within the fuller context of the prevailing policy and supporting guidance</i>. Furthermore, Padfoot makes an unsubstantiated assertion of an "informal convention" <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">on Wikipedia to use "First Battle of ..." (with 'B' capitalised)</q> - which is readily disproven by a search of WP. <i>B</i> is not always capitalised (for reasons of P&G) in the construction <i>[ordinal] battle of X</i>. There is no documented convention to capitalise <i>battle</i> and there is no inconsistency between <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRITERIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRITERIA">WP:CRITERIA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLEFORMAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLEFORMAT">WP:TITLEFORMAT</a>. CONSISTENT applies to word patterns in title phrases. Asserting (through just citing the shortcut) that CONSISTENCY also <i>extends</i> to the capitalisation in a word pattern is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PETTIFOG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PETTIFOG">pettifogging</a> argument that has been thoroughly rebutted. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NHC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NHC">WP:NHC</a> tells us that inappropriate arguments <i>should</i> be discarded. Alternatively, where an argument has <i>negligible</i> substance, it can be assigned <i>negligible</i> weight. <a href="/wiki/User:Cinderella157" title="User:Cinderella157">Cinderella157</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinderella157" title="User talk:Cinderella157">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Cinderella157-20241114015200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinderella157-20241114015200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cinderella157-20241114015200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112222300"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSISTENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSISTENT"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200-Cinderella157-20241114015200"></span>WP:CONSISTENT</a> (and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRITERIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRITERIA">WP:CRITERIA</a>) is a broadly worded policy that says consistency is an important goal. It has no capitalization exception, at least not at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLEFORMAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLEFORMAT">WP:TITLEFORMAT</a> (which covers "questions not covered by the five principles", of which consistency is one). I don't think you really disagree that if there were 999 properly capitalized titles and just one that fell a bit below the MOS:CAPS threshold, editors could properly consider consistency. This case isn't that drastic, but it's not nothing either, and with my closer hat on I don't have the power to say that the opposers are placing too much weight on consistency here. That said, this may be a moot point; if the RM at <a href="/wiki/Talk:First_battle_of_%C3%96land_(1564)" title="Talk:First battle of Öland (1564)">Talk:First battle of Öland (1564)</a> isn't successful, the consistency argument would be considerably weaker in future RMs. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200-Cinderella157-20241114015200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200-Cinderella157-20241114015200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200-Cinderella157-20241114015200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinderella157-20241114142800-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200"></span>Again, thank you. Per TITLEFORMAT, the use of sentence case is <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk"><i>not</i> covered</q> [emphasis added] by CRITERIA - ie it falls outside CRITERIA. Note, CONSISTENT does not link to CRITERIA but to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Consistency" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">Wikipedia:Article titles#Consistency</a>. Furthermore, while the statement at CRITERIA might be broad, it is explicitly narrowed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLECON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLECON">WP:TITLECON</a>. Determining sentence case ultimately falls to MOS:CAPS. I would disagree with the 999:1 analogy as being an argument of WP:CONSISTENT. It <i>assumes</i> that the 999 are <i>correctly</i> capitalised and/or that all 1,000 are <i>directly</i> comparable rather than just somewhat similar (eg <i>X in the Olympic G|games</i> would be directly comparable but battles are not). This would be a argument of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAITACCOMPLI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAITACCOMPLI">WP:FAITACCOMPLI</a> and OTHERCONTENT but not a reasonable argument of CONSISTENT. The use of sentence case is a <i>fundamental</i> matter of WP style. Asserting that CONSISTENT <i>might</i> provide a loophole around this is <i>clearly</i> a contradiction to the <i>spirit and intent</i> and the written word of P&G. MOS:CAPS (through TITLEFORMAT) is RS based. Suggesting that CONSISTENCY <i>reasonably</i> overrides this creates multiple inconsistencies in P&G where none exist. It is inherently a pettifogging argument that <i>should</i> be discarded. Yes, it may be moot but, while it is appropriate to use an RM to address a [small] group of related articles, it is not appropriate for an RM to change policy by default. This <i>is</i> a matter that should be dealt with by an RfC. A result per the proposal <i>will</i> create contradictions between article titles and use in prose where MOS:CAPS undesputidly prevails. This RM has been used as a pretense to legitimise that RM. If nothing else, this dialogue helps coalesce my thoughts as a response there. If you don't already, you might watch <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MR">WP:MR</a> - but not about this move. <a href="/wiki/User:Cinderella157" title="User:Cinderella157">Cinderella157</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinderella157" title="User talk:Cinderella157">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Cinderella157-20241114142800-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinderella157-20241114142800-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cinderella157-20241114142800-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114100200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241117101300-Cinderella157-20241114142800"></span>I think we've at least identified the underlying issue here, which is whether MOS:CAPS necessarily trumps consistency or whether they're separate policy considerations that editors can at least sometimes balance against each other. I'm not persuaded that policy supports your answer (in letter or in spirit), but an RfC would certainly be one way to resolve the matter. 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Thank you. <span class="nowrap"><a href="/wiki/User:Chess" title="User:Chess">Chess</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chess" title="User talk:Chess">talk</a>) <small>(please <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages#Notifications" title="Help:Talk pages">mention</a> me on reply)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Chess-20241112190600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chess-20241112190600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chess-20241112190600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112213500-Chess-20241112190600"></span>Thanks for the note. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112213500-Chess-20241112190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112213500-Chess-20241112190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112213500-Chess-20241112190600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng" data-mw-thread-id="h-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng-20241112191500"><span id="Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FLee_Du-haeng"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng-20241112191500"></span>Closure of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Du-haeng">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Du-haeng</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng-20241112191500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Du-haeng"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Habst-20241112191500-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng"></span>Hi, thank you for your work as an admin and thanks for closing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Du-haeng">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Du-haeng</a>. I was wondering if you could change the closing decision from <i>no consensus</i> to <i>keep</i>. I think keep would be a fairer closure that's more representative of how the discussion went -- there were at least 6 participants and none of them except the nominator expressed any preference for a delete outcome while there were several arguments made to keep. The only delete view expressed was later retracted. I know it has little practical implication, but I think it could be useful down the line should someone try to re-nominate the article. Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Habst" title="User:Habst">Habst</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Habst" title="User talk:Habst">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Habst-20241112191500-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Habst-20241112191500-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Habst-20241112191500-Closure_of_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lee_Du-haeng"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Habst" title="User:Habst"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112215300-Habst-20241112191500"></span>Habst</a>, it's definitely an edge case, but with only two people willing to !vote keep, I think it's a stretch to call it an outright consensus, particularly since several concerns about sigcov (e.g., from Geschichte) were still on the table. With no new participants after the last relist, no consensus is the best we can do here, in my view. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112215300-Habst-20241112191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112215300-Habst-20241112191500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241112215300-Habst-20241112191500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. 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You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)-20241113150800"><span id="Question_from_Iacowriter_.2815:08.2C_13_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)-20241113150800"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (15:08, 13 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)-20241113150800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Question from Iacowriter (15:08, 13 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241113150800-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)"></span>It says that the Smurfs is a $4 billion franchise. But I did research and it came out to $1208275432. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241113150800-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241113150800-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241113150800-Question_from_Iacowriter_(15:08,_13_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800-Iacowriter-20241113150800"></span>Iacowriter</a>, the $4 billion figure is cited to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-smurfs-idUSL1434082320080114/">this 2008 Reuters article</a>, which says "the business they have created in over 30 languages is put at some $4 billion". I don't really know how they calculated that figure (maybe it also includes comics, merchandise, television, and the like?), but it's best to follow the sources when they give a specific number like that.</dd> <dd>By the way, I want to repeat that it's very important to leave an edit summary each time you make an edit. It doesn't have to be long—it just has to explain what you did in that edit, for example "updated Batman revenue numbers". People find it frustrating when there isn't an edit summary because it's harder to tell what changes were made. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800-Iacowriter-20241113150800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800-Iacowriter-20241113150800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800-Iacowriter-20241113150800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241114151200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"></span>OK, sorry. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241114151200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241114151200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241114151200-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iacowriter-20241114151600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"></span>OK. I added the summary. Are we good now? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iacowriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iacowriter (page does not exist)">Iacowriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iacowriter" title="User talk:Iacowriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Iacowriter-20241114151600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iacowriter-20241114151600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iacowriter-20241114151600-Extraordinary_Writ-20241114091800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timur9008-20241114152800-Iacowriter-20241114151600"></span>If you update numbers you should update the accessdate as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Timur9008" title="User:Timur9008">Timur9008</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timur9008" title="User talk:Timur9008">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Timur9008-20241114152800-Iacowriter-20241114151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timur9008-20241114152800-Iacowriter-20241114151600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timur9008-20241114152800-Iacowriter-20241114151600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Format_fix_at_RRfA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Format_fix_at_RRfA-20241118064900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Format_fix_at_RRfA-20241118064900"></span>Format fix at RRfA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Format_fix_at_RRfA-20241118064900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Format fix at RRfA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Euryalus-20241118064900-Format_fix_at_RRfA"></span>Thanks, beat me to it. The perils of editing by phone. :) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Euryalus" title="User:Euryalus">Euryalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Euryalus" title="User talk:Euryalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Euryalus-20241118064900-Format_fix_at_RRfA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:49, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Euryalus-20241118064900-Format_fix_at_RRfA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Euryalus-20241118064900-Format_fix_at_RRfA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241118065000-Euryalus-20241118064900"></span>No worries! <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241118065000-Euryalus-20241118064900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241118065000-Euryalus-20241118064900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241118065000-Euryalus-20241118064900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004700"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004700-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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But please be aware that there is an expectation of closers to do at least some of the associated "cleanup" work, such as fixing the article contents to be consistent with the new title. Fixing incoming links is a lot more work that should get done, but doesn't typically fall on the closer. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Dicklyon-20241122171500-Mediterranean_basin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20241122171500-Mediterranean_basin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20241122171500-Mediterranean_basin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241123015400-Dicklyon-20241122171500"></span>Done; thanks for the reminder. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241123015400-Dicklyon-20241122171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241123015400-Dicklyon-20241122171500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241123015400-Dicklyon-20241122171500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20241123055500-Extraordinary_Writ-20241123015400"></span>Thank <i>You</i>. <a 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id="Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports_(21:33,_22_November_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports_(21:33,-20241122213300"><span id="Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter.2FFalse_positives.2FReports_.2821:33.2C_22_November_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports_(21:33,-20241122213300"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zonexer7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zonexer7 (page does not exist)">Zonexer7</a> on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports" title="Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports">Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports</a> (21:33, 22 November 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports_(21:33,-20241122213300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Question from Zonexer7 on Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports (21:33, 22 November 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zonexer7-20241122213300-Question_from_Zonexer7_on_Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports_(21:33,"></span>Trey THE Grey. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zonexer7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zonexer7 (page does not exist)">Zonexer7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zonexer7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Zonexer7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a 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