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class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Featured_picture_promotion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Featured picture promotion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Featured_picture_promotion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:User_new_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:User_new_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Template:User new message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template:User_new_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Requested_pictures" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Requested_pictures"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Requested pictures</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Requested_pictures-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TOC_compression" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TOC_compression"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>TOC compression</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-TOC_compression-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Arc de Triomphe pic</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diet_&_French_FA's" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diet_&_French_FA's"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Diet & French FA's</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Diet_&_French_FA's-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>User talk:ShortJason/Publicity</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Breastfeeding_FARC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Breastfeeding_FARC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Breastfeeding FARC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Breastfeeding_FARC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gloves_and_mitts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gloves_and_mitts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Gloves and mitts</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gloves_and_mitts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rhône-Alpes_flag" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rhône-Alpes_flag"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Rhône-Alpes flag</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Rhône-Alpes_flag-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-French_Phonology" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#French_Phonology"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>French Phonology</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-French_Phonology-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-French_prefectures" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#French_prefectures"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>French prefectures</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-French_prefectures-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fête_des_Lumières_images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fête_des_Lumières_images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Fête des Lumières images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fête_des_Lumières_images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-French_featured_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#French_featured_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>French featured articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-French_featured_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Cricket fielding positions diagram</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sigs_etc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sigs_etc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Sigs etc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sigs_etc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FPC_Promotion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FPC_Promotion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>FPC Promotion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-FPC_Promotion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ecclesiastical_history" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ecclesiastical_history"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Ecclesiastical history</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ecclesiastical_history-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_talk_page_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_talk_page_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Re: talk page question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_talk_page_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-your_change_to_WP:DYK" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#your_change_to_WP:DYK"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>your change to WP:DYK</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-your_change_to_WP:DYK-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Paris_Eengleesh" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Paris_Eengleesh"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Paris Eengleesh</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Paris_Eengleesh-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bruno Senna</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>TfD nomination of Template:--</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:BEATLES" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:BEATLES"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>WP:BEATLES</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WP:BEATLES-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_Georgia_Move" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_Georgia_Move"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Proposed Georgia Move</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_Georgia_Move-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rivers_in_France" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rivers_in_France"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Rivers in France</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rivers_in_France-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Guinness_Storehouse" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Guinness_Storehouse"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Guinness Storehouse</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Guinness_Storehouse-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Uncat_tags" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Uncat_tags"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Uncat tags</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Uncat_tags-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Vote on Fir0002 FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Régions_of_France" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Régions_of_France"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Régions of France</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Régions_of_France-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Captain_scarlet's_new_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Captain_scarlet's_new_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Captain scarlet's new template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reply_re_CatherineYronwode"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Reply re CatherineYronwode</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-And_this_too" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#And_this_too"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>And this too</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">16 comments</span> <ul id="toc-And_this_too-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Changes_in_Paris_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Changes_in_Paris_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Changes in Paris article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Changes_in_Paris_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Melbourne" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Melbourne"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Melbourne</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Melbourne-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Coca-Cola" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Coca-Cola"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Coca-Cola</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Coca-Cola-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Vote on Fir0002 FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Athletic_fielding" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Athletic_fielding"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Athletic fielding</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Athletic_fielding-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Tallest structures - "Paris area"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Try_to_improve_this_sentence" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Try_to_improve_this_sentence"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Try to improve this sentence</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Childhood_obesity_image" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Childhood_obesity_image"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Childhood obesity image</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Childhood_obesity_image-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Your comment at Notability (numbers)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Y'en a qu'on du temps à perdre</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Vote on Fir0002 FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_Charaxes_kahruba" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_Charaxes_kahruba"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>About Charaxes kahruba</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-About_Charaxes_kahruba-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sparrow_on_FPC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sparrow_on_FPC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Sparrow on FPC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sparrow_on_FPC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Espionnage"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Espionnage""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>"Espionnage"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Espionnage"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Robert_M._Pagan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Robert_M._Pagan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Robert M. Pagan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Robert_M._Pagan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_November_20th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for November 20th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_France" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_France"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>WikiProject France</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_France-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Vote on Fir FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fractals" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fractals"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Fractals</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fractals-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_27th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_November_27th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for November 27th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_27th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_4th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_December_4th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 4th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_4th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_11th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_December_11th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 11th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_11th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cocktail_Stubs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cocktail_Stubs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Cocktail Stubs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Cocktail_Stubs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 18th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Claudio_Gonzalez" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Claudio_Gonzalez"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Claudio Gonzalez</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Claudio_Gonzalez-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 26th.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 2nd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_Cocktails" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_Cocktails"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>WikiProject Cocktails</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_Cocktails-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 8th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span><span>Template:References-small <span>(edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)</span></span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 15th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_Heart_Huckabees" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_Heart_Huckabees"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>I Heart Huckabees</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-I_Heart_Huckabees-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-English_vs._French_spelling" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#English_vs._French_spelling"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>English vs. French spelling</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-English_vs._French_spelling-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 22nd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Category deletion in nordic skiing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Idigenous_Australians" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Idigenous_Australians"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Idigenous Australians</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Idigenous_Australians-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_29th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_January_29th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 29th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_January_29th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 5th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Victoria" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Victoria"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Victoria</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Victoria-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-f-number" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#f-number"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>f-number</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-f-number-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 12th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ned_Kelly" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ned_Kelly"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Ned Kelly</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ned_Kelly-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 19th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Featured_Picture" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Featured_Picture"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Featured Picture</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Featured_Picture-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 26th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 5th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-See_also" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#See_also"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>See also</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-See_also-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-URLs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#URLs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>URLs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-URLs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 12th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enhance_history" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enhance_history"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Enhance history</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Enhance_history-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Brittany" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Brittany"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>Brittany</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Brittany-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 20th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_26th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_March_26th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">104</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 26th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_March_26th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Killer_whale_FPC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Killer_whale_FPC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">105</span> <span>Killer whale FPC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Killer_whale_FPC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_2nd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_April_2nd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">106</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for April 2nd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_2nd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_9th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_April_9th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">107</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for April 9th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_9th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_16th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_April_16th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">108</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for April 16th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_16th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_23rd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_April_23rd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">109</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for April 23rd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_23rd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_30th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_April_30th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">110</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for April 30th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_April_30th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:1915_Dance_by_Rodchenko.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:1915_Dance_by_Rodchenko.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">111</span> <span>Image:1915 Dance by Rodchenko.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:1915_Dance_by_Rodchenko.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_7th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_May_7th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 7th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_7th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>AfD nomination of Invincible Snowfields</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span>Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>Re: Fixing typos in French</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 14th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Porters_Ski_Area" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Porters_Ski_Area"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">117</span> <span>Porters Ski Area</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Porters_Ski_Area-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re_Template:·/doc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re_Template:·/doc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">118</span> <span>Re Template:·/doc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re_Template:·/doc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">119</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 21st, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PDP" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PDP"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">120</span> <span>PDP</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PDP-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">121</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 28th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">122</span> <span>Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_don't_re-insert_references" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_don't_re-insert_references"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">123</span> <span>Please don't re-insert references</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Please_don't_re-insert_references-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 4th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_11th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_June_11th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 11th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_11th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_18th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_June_18th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">126</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 18th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_18th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Scenic_Railway" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Scenic_Railway"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">127</span> <span>Scenic Railway</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Scenic_Railway-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{further}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{further}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">128</span> <span><span>{{</span>further<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-{{further}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">129</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 25th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sick" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sick"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">130</span> <span>Sick</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">12 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sick-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">131</span> <span>List of Pentax K mount lenses</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia_Study/Interview" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia_Study/Interview"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">132</span> <span>Wikipedia Study/Interview</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia_Study/Interview-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_2nd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_July_2nd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">133</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 2nd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_2nd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_9th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_July_9th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">134</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 9th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_9th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_16th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_July_16th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">135</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 16th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_16th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">136</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 23rd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wp:france" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wp:france"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">137</span> <span>Wp:france</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wp:france-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-La_Tour_d'Auvergne" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#La_Tour_d'Auvergne"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">138</span> <span>La Tour d'Auvergne</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">139</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 30th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_6th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_August_6th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">140</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 6th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_6th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hughes_H-4_Hercules" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hughes_H-4_Hercules"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">141</span> <span>Hughes H-4 Hercules</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hughes_H-4_Hercules-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Digital_Negative" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Digital_Negative"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">142</span> <span>Digital Negative</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Digital_Negative-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">143</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 13th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_20th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_August_20th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">144</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 20th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_20th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Placeholder_images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Placeholder_images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">145</span> <span>Placeholder images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Placeholder_images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">146</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 27th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_3rd,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_September_3rd,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">147</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 3rd, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_3rd,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_10th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_September_10th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">148</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 10th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_10th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_17th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_September_17th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">149</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 17th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_17th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sieve_WP:FPC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sieve_WP:FPC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">150</span> <span>Sieve WP:FPC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sieve_WP:FPC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">151</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 24th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ile-de-France" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ile-de-France"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">152</span> <span>Ile-de-France</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ile-de-France-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_October_03,_2007" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_October_03,_2007"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">153</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for October 03, 2007</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_October_03,_2007-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">154</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for October 15th, 2007.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regex_expressions_for_redirects" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regex_expressions_for_redirects"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">155</span> <span>Regex expressions for redirects</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{Credit}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{Credit}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">156</span> <span><span>{{</span>Credit<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-{{Credit}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-More_credit_stuff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#More_credit_stuff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">157</span> <span>More credit stuff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-More_credit_stuff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Promenader's_new_assault" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Promenader's_new_assault"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">158</span> <span>Promenader's new assault</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Promenader's_new_assault-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fish_Creek_photos" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fish_Creek_photos"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">159</span> <span>Fish Creek photos</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fish_Creek_photos-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">160</span> <span>Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wi-fi_cancer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wi-fi_cancer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">161</span> <span>Wi-fi cancer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wi-fi_cancer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Admin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Admin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">162</span> <span>Admin</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Admin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:EPISODE" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:EPISODE"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">163</span> <span>WP:EPISODE</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WP:EPISODE-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draco.NET" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draco.NET"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">164</span> <span>Draco.NET</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Draco.NET-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">165</span> <span>Morgane de toi#Description of tracks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_sizes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_sizes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">166</span> <span>Image sizes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_sizes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Main_Page_deletion_stuff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Main_Page_deletion_stuff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">167</span> <span>Main Page deletion stuff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Here_we_go_again" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Here_we_go_again"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">168</span> <span>Here we go again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Here_we_go_again-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">169</span> <span>AfD nomination of Gene Matlock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Optical_Disc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Optical_Disc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">170</span> <span>Optical Disc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Optical_Disc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-French_communes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#French_communes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">171</span> <span>French communes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-French_communes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">172</span> <span>Hello</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hello-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Trail" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Trail"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">173</span> <span>Trail</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Trail-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">174</span> <span>POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">175</span> <span>WikiProject French communes Newsletter</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Miror_of_Wikipedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Miror_of_Wikipedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">176</span> <span>Miror of Wikipedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Miror_of_Wikipedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Here_we_go_again_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Here_we_go_again_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">177</span> <span>Here we go again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Here_we_go_again_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mediawiki_markup_spec" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mediawiki_markup_spec"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">178</span> <span>Mediawiki markup spec</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mediawiki_markup_spec-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">179</span> <span>TfD nomination of Template:Credit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">180</span> <span>Promenader, for the zillionth time</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE:Great_work" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE:Great_work"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">181</span> <span>RE:Great work</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-RE:Great_work-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-afd-merged-from" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#afd-merged-from"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">182</span> <span>afd-merged-from</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-afd-merged-from-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">183</span> <span>A question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">184</span> <span>DYK for Otto Meiling</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Chimango_Caracara" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Chimango_Caracara"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">185</span> <span>Chimango Caracara</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Chimango_Caracara-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">186</span> <span>Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reply" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reply"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">187</span> <span>Reply</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reply-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talkback" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talkback"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">188</span> <span>Talkback</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Talkback-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Could_you_help_me?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Could_you_help_me?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">189</span> <span>Could you help me?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Could_you_help_me?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-music_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#music_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">190</span> <span>music template</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-music_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">191</span> <span>DYK for Nocturnes (Chopin)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Carnac_stones" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Carnac_stones"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">192</span> <span>Carnac stones</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Carnac_stones-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">193</span> <span>Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cyclone Ingrid</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">194</span> <span>NICE interface modification: We need more users!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">195</span> <span>Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Policy_page_barnstar" class="vector-toc-list-item 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics"],"text":"Curious about your Lyon pics","linkableTitle":"Curious about your Lyon pics"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics"></span>Hi Stevage. I do a lot of travelling (business and pleasure), and whenever I can I take my camera along, with Wikipedia (Commons) in mind (hence no relatives/friends in the pictures). Sort of a hobby of mine, and I have also noticed that my pictures get better with experience. Happy editing -- <a href="/wiki/User:Chris_73" title="User:Chris 73">Chris 73</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_73" title="User talk:Chris 73">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Chris 73","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics","replies":["c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T15:09:00.000Z-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z-Curious_about_your_Lyon_pics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T15:09:00.000Z-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z"></span>BTW, Why did you add the same bridge picture twice in <a href="/wiki/Lyon" title="Lyon">Lyon</a>? Once is enough, and too large looks not good. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Chris_73" title="User:Chris 73">Chris 73</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_73" title="User talk:Chris 73">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T15:09:00.000Z-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_73-2006-05-08T15:09:00.000Z-Chris_73-2006-05-08T12:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-08T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Chris 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Circeus-2006-05-10T14:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{-}_vs_{clear}-2006-05-10T14:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Circeus-2006-05-10T14:11:00.000Z-{-}_vs_{clear}"],"text":"{-} vs {clear}","linkableTitle":"{-} vs {clear}"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Circeus-2006-05-10T14:11:00.000Z-{-}_vs_{clear}"></span>Actually, thereason I originally replace them was that I confused <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:-" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:-">-</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with the wikicode ---- for a <hr>, and <hr> are not normally used in article space. <a href="/wiki/User:Circeus" title="User:Circeus">Circeus</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Circeus-2006-05-10T14:11:00.000Z-{-}_vs_{clear}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span 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A fact from the article <b><a href="/wiki/Couesnon" title="Couesnon">Couesnon</a></b>, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a>. 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A fact from the article <b><a href="/wiki/Carnac_stones" title="Carnac stones">Carnac stones</a></b>, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a>. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">the "Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Cactus.man" title="User:Cactus.man"><span style="color:#2B7A2B;">Cactus<b>.</b>man</span></a> <span style="font-size:large;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cactus.man" title="User talk:Cactus.man">✍</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Cactus.man-2006-05-13T13:38:00.000Z-DYK_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cactus.man-2006-05-13T13:38:00.000Z-DYK_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-13T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Cactus.man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cactus.man-2006-05-13T13:38:00.000Z-DYK_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cactus.man-2006-05-13T13:38:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"],"text":"Featured picture promotion","linkableTitle":"Featured picture promotion"}--><h2 id="Featured_picture_promotion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Featured picture promotion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Featured picture promotion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Featured_picture_promotion-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"],"text":"Featured picture promotion","linkableTitle":"Featured picture promotion"}--></div></div></div> <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border: 1px solid #CC9; background-color: #cfc"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Chambord_pano.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Chambord_pano.jpg/75px-Chambord_pano.jpg" decoding="async" width="75" height="27" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Chambord_pano.jpg/113px-Chambord_pano.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Chambord_pano.jpg/150px-Chambord_pano.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4540" data-file-height="1616"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><b>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Featured picture candidate</a> has been promoted</b></div> Your nomination for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_pictures" title="Wikipedia:Featured pictures">featured picture</a> status, <b><a href="/wiki/File:Chambord_pano.jpg" title="File:Chambord pano.jpg">Image:Chambord pano.jpg</a></b>, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p><br/> ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Veledan" title="User:Veledan">Veledan</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Veledan" title="User talk:Veledan">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","author":"Veledan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion","replies":["c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z-Featured_picture_promotion"></span> </p><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"></span>...and renamed to Chambord_pano.jpg too :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Yummifruitbat" title="User:Yummifruitbat">Yummifruitbat</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z","author":"Yummifruitbat","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yummifruitbat-2006-05-15T09:25:00.000Z-Veledan-2006-05-14T09:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"],"text":"Template:User new message","linkableTitle":"Template:User new message"}--><h2 id="Template:User_new_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:User_new_message" title="Template:User new message">Template:User new message</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Template:User new message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message","timestamp":"2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template:User_new_message-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"],"text":"Template:User new message","linkableTitle":"Template:User new message"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"></span>I saw that you commented that the colour of the box was confusing. FYI, you can change the colour of the box to any that you want, by using the following code: <b><code>{{user new message|color=<i>COLOR OF BOX</i>|name=<i>USERNAME</i>}}</code></b> --<span class="user-sig user-Shreshth91">May the Force be with you! <a href="/wiki/User:Shreshth91" title="User:Shreshth91">Shreshth91</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shreshth91" title="User talk:Shreshth91"><span style="font-size:smaller; color:green;">($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z","author":"Shreshth91","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shreshth91-2006-05-22T15:59:00.000Z-Template:User_new_message"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures","c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"],"text":"Requested pictures","linkableTitle":"Requested pictures"}--><h2 id="Requested_pictures" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Requested pictures<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Requested pictures"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures","c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_pictures-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures","c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"],"text":"Requested pictures","linkableTitle":"Requested pictures"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"></span>Glad to see we are thinking alike :-) Do you find the categorization by location scheme useful? Can you think of ways it could be improved? I am trying to make useful "search for free images" templates to help (see <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the United Kingdom">Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the United Kingdom</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_States" title="Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the United States">Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the United States</a>) but am struggling for other countries and sources. It would be good to know what you think about it all - I've had quite a lot of positive responses and a few complaints about "talk page clutter" or even "disruption" (because it messed up people's watchlists, I guess, when adding a photo request to a page...). Also, if you didn't spot this new scheme, should I take it that it wasn't advertised very well and that should be made clearer? <a href="/wiki/User:TheGrappler" title="User:TheGrappler">TheGrappler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z","author":"TheGrappler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-22T17:49:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"></span>Ok, here are a couple of ideas: </p> <ul><li>Totally deprecate the old system as much as possible. It's silly having both systems when the superior system (categories) exists.</li> <li>Make the template for requested photo smaller. It doesn't have to be that eye catching, because the idea is to attract people *to* the page, not *from* the page. If you get me - we want bridge photographers in Lyon to go out there and take a photo, not people who happen to be interested in La Passerelle du Collège or whatever.</li> <li>Ignore the people who complain about their watchlists.</li> <li>Formalise a way to add more info about your request. "A photo showing X, Y and Z would be great."</li> <li>Come up with a way to conveniently add photos to several categories at once. Create templates that fuse several categories: <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Reqphoto-bridge-france&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Reqphoto-bridge-france (page does not exist)">reqphoto-bridge-france</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> could add requests both to the fictional "wanted bridge photos" and "wanted France photos" for example.</li> <li>For that matter, create billions of templates. Allowing free text for {reqphotoin} is a little dangerous - misspellings, differences in scale etc could make duplicate categories.</li> <li>Get a *lot* more of these templates in use. Get the message out there that every article should have a photo, and if it doesn't, it needs the template. We should have a page where thousands of requested images in a given location can be seen. Every French commune should have a reqphoto template on it - unless it already has enough photos :)</li> <li>Improve the ways of contacting photographers. There isn't even a userbox for Wikipedia photographers. I created a provisional one (see my user page) but I didn't even put a category on it. We want to ramp up the number of requsets, the number of people fulfilling them, and the ease in which the two halves can meet.</li></ul> <p>That do you? :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z-Requested_pictures"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z"></span>I prefer to use parameterized templates because of the flexibility of the category system - saves creating loads of templates that may only be used once. <dl><dd>Is a combination possible - paramaterize them, but create templates for common one? No, probably doesn't make sense.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>I agree that some people really "don't get" the idea of requested photos templates (I have had requests stripped from one city and one university that had no images at all, because it was "disruptive" to their barely used talk pages :-/) but I'll see what I can do. <dl><dd>A link explaning what the template is all about? Yes, a Wikiproject is sounding like a good idea...</dd></dl></dd> <dd>You are probably right that including details of a request is a good idea. Do you think it is worth setting up a WikiProject to try to tag the entire 'pedia? And there also should be better communication with photographers - a project may be the best way to do that too. Even if it's just a question of personally messaging particularly active or good photographers, that would be a start! It's hard to make the template smaller (I'm still thinking about ways to do this, losing the image is probably a good start) but may be feasible. <dl><dd>Something vaguely like the shortcut template? That is, top right hand corner of talk page, with an icon and "Photo needed in New Orleans!" or something?</dd></dl></dd> <dd>And I am trying to ramp up alternative sources that wikiphotographers (see <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:US_image_sources" title="Template:US image sources">US image sources</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>). What do you reckon about a wikiproject? Feasible? <a href="/wiki/User:TheGrappler" title="User:TheGrappler">TheGrappler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z","author":"TheGrappler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-22T18:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z"></span>It sounds good, and creating a userboxes that people could use ("This user can take photos of food") etc would be good. I'm picturing a page that connects all the people who need photos with those that can find/make them. The question is, how to make a good hierarchy. How to have a page that groups all requests in France, but also allows graceful subdivision into cities if and when that's needed? I'll have to have a closer look at the existing categories/templates to see how that works. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-05-31T08:12:00.000Z-TheGrappler-2006-05-31T01:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Also, let's think about otherwise of dividing up the photospace - geographical location is obvious, but there are themes too. Architecture, cars, food, people, natural features - these appeal to different types of photographers. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"],"text":"(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon","linkableTitle":"(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon"}--><h2 id="(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z"><span id=".28Ecclesiastical.29_history_of_Lyon"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z"></span>(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: (Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon","timestamp":"2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"],"text":"(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon","linkableTitle":"(Ecclesiastical) history of Lyon"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"></span>If this contribution happens to double the history, then the problem is the secular history is (still? maybe you care to remediate that) far to stubbish, which is not my doing but apparently results from a lack of volunteers (I thought the French were ever so proud of their history, but apparently not enough to contribute about it in English) - in the Roman era Ludunum Lugdunesis was thé major centre of Gaul, as a mint rivalled only by Rome and Carthage, hence its unusally hight ecclesiastical rank (working trough in feudal days, well reflected in the primacy titulature) ... In these secularised times there's a definite tendency to neglect the major role of the church, at least in the Ancien régime (for good and for bad) even in academical history teaching; though not literally every day, I've already added ecclesiastical history sections to many (arch)episcopal sees (and often other information elsewhere in the process), usually without anyone challenging the idea <a href="/wiki/User:Fastifex" title="User:Fastifex">Fastifex</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z","author":"Fastifex","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fastifex-2006-05-23T09:51:00.000Z-(Ecclesiastical)_history_of_Lyon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"],"text":"TOC compression","linkableTitle":"TOC compression"}--><h2 id="TOC_compression" data-mw-thread-id="h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span>TOC compression<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: TOC compression"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression","timestamp":"2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TOC_compression-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"],"text":"TOC compression","linkableTitle":"TOC compression"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"></span>BTW, the Contents compression is a <i>brilliant</i> idea - in fact, would it not be normal that all infobox/table/contents/reference texts have a uniform 'smaller' style of their own, making them instantly discernable from 'main body' content? This would greatly ease readability and (text) navigation, and save much space. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-23T10:08:00.000Z-TOC_compression"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"],"text":"Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station","linkableTitle":"Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station"}--><h2 id="Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z"></span>Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station","timestamp":"2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"],"text":"Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station","linkableTitle":"Re: Taking photos of Flinders St Station"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"></span>Hi Stevage,<br/> Yeah that sound like an interesting idea, I might try it, but I'm not sure when - I don't actually live anywhere near Melbourne. It certainly sounds possible, and it will, as you mentioned give an interesting result. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.photos.flagstaffotos.com"><small style="color:#C6CACC; background:#F8FCFF">www</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-05-28T09:22:00.000Z-Re:_Taking_photos_of_Flinders_St_Station"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"],"text":"Arc de Triomphe pic","linkableTitle":"Arc de Triomphe pic"}--><h2 id="Arc_de_Triomphe_pic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"></span>Arc de Triomphe pic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Arc de Triomphe pic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","timestamp":"2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"],"text":"Arc de Triomphe pic","linkableTitle":"Arc de Triomphe pic"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"></span>It's corrected as you asked, but you have yet to comment. Make it or break it, man : ) <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"></span>LOL - thanks, adequately : ) <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T21:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome :) Like I said, they're not bad photos by any stretch of the imagination. But FP is a combination of beauty and intelligence. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span>Er, the former, yes, but... intelligence? True that it takes some of that to discern what people on Wiki will vote for. But should this be the goal? <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-05-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z"></span>By "intelligence" I mean that the image has to be informative, encyclopaedic etc. The Mona Lisa has no place on Wikipedia outside articles about Italian art. Anyway, don't be discouraged - it's really, really hard to take photos that are good enough for FP. I only have one, and that was no reflection on me - anyone can take a panorama of Chambord and get a nice result. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-05-30T08:54:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-05-29T22:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"></span>Okay, thanks. And perhaps next time I should be 'intelligent' enough to give a pic a peer review before tossing it into the FP bin : ) <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-Arc_de_Triomphe_pic"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"],"text":"Diet & French FA's","linkableTitle":"Diet & French FA's"}--><h2 id="Diet_&_French_FA's" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z"><span id="Diet_.26_French_FA.27s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z"></span>Diet & French FA's<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Diet & French FA's"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's","timestamp":"2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Diet_&_French_FA's-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"],"text":"Diet & French FA's","linkableTitle":"Diet & French FA's"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"></span>Thanks. I've been getting fed by <a href="/wiki/User:Aldux" title="User:Aldux">User:Aldux</a> who appears to be hunting down featury Greek History articles, which I rather enjoy. He may know of others. there's also sometimes good stuff to be found on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation_into_English/French" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Translation into English/French">Wikipedia:Translation_into_English/French</a> (there's a 'Featured Articles" section, but sometimes the FAs seem to be misplaced. One of my stunts on the NL: wiki has been just to hunt through their FA's, & see if there's no correspondin <a href="/wiki/..." class="mw-redirect" title="...">EN:...</a> tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Bridesmill" title="User:Bridesmill">Bridesmill</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z","author":"Bridesmill","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bridesmill-2006-06-02T00:33:00.000Z-Diet_&_French_FA's"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity"],"text":"User talk:ShortJason\/Publicity","linkableTitle":"User talk:ShortJason\/Publicity"}--><h2 id="User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z"><span id="User_talk:ShortJason.2FPublicity"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity" title="User talk:ShortJason/Publicity">User talk:ShortJason/Publicity</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: User talk:ShortJason/Publicity"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity","timestamp":"2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity"],"text":"User talk:ShortJason\/Publicity","linkableTitle":"User talk:ShortJason\/Publicity"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity"></span>I posted a new proposal at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity" title="User talk:ShortJason/Publicity">User talk:ShortJason/Publicity</a> that would allow users to opt-in to RfA alerts, and specify the nominees they would be interested in. Given your previous message on the topic, I wondered if you would like to comment, or even sign up? <a href="/wiki/User:TheGrappler" title="User:TheGrappler">TheGrappler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason/Publicity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z","author":"TheGrappler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheGrappler-2006-06-02T03:07:00.000Z-User_talk:ShortJason\/Publicity","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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<p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Violetriga-2006-06-03T09:52:00.000Z-Breastfeeding_FARC"></span>So you know, I've now taken <a href="/wiki/Breastfeeding" title="Breastfeeding">Breastfeeding</a> to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FARC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FARC">WP:FARC</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_removal_candidates/Breastfeeding" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Breastfeeding">Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Breastfeeding</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Violetriga" title="User:Violetriga">violet/riga</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Violetriga" title="User talk:Violetriga">(t)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Violetriga-2006-06-03T09:52:00.000Z-Breastfeeding_FARC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Gloves_and_mitts-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts","c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"],"text":"Gloves and mitts","linkableTitle":"Gloves and mitts"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"></span>Re: <a href="/wiki/Comparison_between_cricket_and_baseball" class="mw-redirect" title="Comparison between cricket and baseball">Comparison between cricket and baseball</a>. Catchers and first basemen wear mitts, other fielders wear gloves. Gloves have fingers. Since the rules of baseball forbid mitts to any players other than the pitcher and first baseman, this is an important distinction, and I didn't think mentioning it in the article would create any confusion. Obviously it did, though, so maybe I'll try re-inserting it in a clearer form. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z","author":"John FitzGerald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts","replies":["c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Forgot to mention that I liked your other changes – the article is still a bit redundant as a result of being written by multiple contributors. I think I'll propose some changes later on the Talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z","author":"John FitzGerald","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:43:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-05T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"></span>Thanks for the reply. I hadn't thought about it that way before, but how right you are about the tone of the article. When I first came across it it contained a statement about baseball being to cricket as cricket is to chess. I may have contributed a lot to this tone, simply because the article has been constructed as part of a debate. The main point I wanted to introduce is that cricket is a batting game while baseball is a fielding game, and the difference is due in part to the equipment used. A related point is that far from making the game easy, the flat bats and big gloves actually make it more difficult because they permit the development of skill. </p><p>Anyway, I'll try some revisions to shape the article up. I like both sports and think their popularity is a credit to the sporting public. But I won't be making any tonight, since at the moment I'm missing the finals of the <a href="/wiki/Stanley_Cup" title="Stanley Cup">Stanley Cup</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z","author":"John FitzGerald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-06-06T00:42:00.000Z-Gloves_and_mitts"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag"],"text":"Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes flag","linkableTitle":"Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes flag"}--><h2 id="Rhône-Alpes_flag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rhône-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z"><span id="Rh.C3.B4ne-Alpes_flag"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rhône-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z"></span>Rhône-Alpes flag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rhône-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Rhône-Alpes flag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag","timestamp":"2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag"],"text":"Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes flag","linkableTitle":"Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes flag"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rhône-Alpes_flag"></span>In answer to your question, the new flag of Rhône-Alpes was introduced in 2005. If you click <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://emblemes.free.fr/images-rho/photo-dpts-rhone-alpes1.JPG">here</a>, you can see a picture showing the new flag in front of the regional council of Rhône-Alpes. </p><p>I've also noticed that you created some templates about regional and departmental prefectures. Are these really needed? I think they add very little information. In particular in the Paris article, where there are already many templates at the bottom, I think they should be removed. Prefectures in Île-de-France don't mean much really, the Paris Metropolitan Area infobox is more interesting because it gives the names of the most populated communes in the metro area. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rhône-Alpes_flag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rhône-Alpes_flag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes_flag","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-06-06T09:37:00.000Z-Rhône-Alpes_flag"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"],"text":"French Phonology","linkableTitle":"French Phonology"}--><h2 id="French_Phonology" data-mw-thread-id="h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"></span>French Phonology<span data-mw-comment-end="h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: French Phonology"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_Phonology-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"],"text":"French Phonology","linkableTitle":"French Phonology"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"></span>Actually, that is what I meant. The line in the article that I modified was ambiguous, and from my own experience, what I added is correct. Someone who's more knowledgeable can fix it, but I know that at least in some places in Québec, that's totally standard (e.g. montagne = /mɔ̄taŋ/ etc.). ̀—<a href="/wiki/User:Firespeaker" title="User:Firespeaker">Firespeaker</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","author":"Firespeaker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology","replies":["c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z-French_Phonology"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Given the evidence (including your anecdote) and what was there before, I think /ŋ/ and /ɲ/ have generally merged in Québec French, and I suppose there's variation on which sound people produce for the merged phoneme, but they oughta do it consistently. This seems right given first-hand experience too, but I'd like it verified, ideally by a native-speaker linguist. —<a href="/wiki/User:Firespeaker" title="User:Firespeaker">Firespeaker</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z","author":"Firespeaker","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T10:03:00.000Z-Firespeaker-2006-06-07T04:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA"],"text":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Snail-WA","linkableTitle":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Snail-WA"}--><h2 id="Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z"><span id="Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FSnail-WA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z"></span>Your vote on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA","timestamp":"2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA"],"text":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Snail-WA","linkableTitle":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Snail-WA"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snail-WA</a> seems to be getting into a bit of a bog. Could you please specify which version your vote goes for? This will help to reach a consensus on which version to promote. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Snail-WA","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-06-07T10:09:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Snail-WA"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"],"text":"French prefectures","linkableTitle":"French prefectures"}--><h2 id="French_prefectures" data-mw-thread-id="h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z"></span>French prefectures<span data-mw-comment-end="h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: French prefectures"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures","timestamp":"2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_prefectures-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"],"text":"French prefectures","linkableTitle":"French prefectures"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"></span>Well, as you have pointed out yourself, prefectures are not always a good measure of what's an important city. A good example is Châlon-en-Champagne, which you have mentioned. It makes sense to nobody that the government didn't choose Reims as the capital of Champagne. The reason why they chose Châlon has to do with the French Revolution: during the French Revolution Châlon was chosen as the prefecture of the Marne département instead of the natural choice which should have been Reims, because Reims was too associated with the monarchy (French kings were crowned in Reims). In the 1960s when they set up regions they would have had to move the prefecture from Châlon to Reims in order to make Reims the capital of Champagne, but they didn't do it probably because of conservatism and because people in Châlon would have made a big fuss about it. In the 1990s the city of Châlon-sur-Marne changed its name into Châlon-en-Champagne to stress that they are the capital of Champagne, in case people had forgotten. This is not the only silly example. In the Tarn département, the Revolutionaries punished Castres (the largest city) by moving the prefecture to Albi, where it is still today. In Guadeloupe, the prefecture is Basse-Terre, a small town, whereas the biggest city is Pointe-à-Pitre. Anyway, leave the infoboxes in the other articles if you feel like, but at any rate I suggest you remove them from the Paris article which is already infobox-laden, and because in Paris metro area the prefectures don't mean much anyway... (obviously the subprefecture of Saint-Denis is much more important than the prefecture of Bobigny, and so on...). <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-06-07T19:55:00.000Z-French_prefectures"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"],"text":"Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote","linkableTitle":"Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote"}--><h2 id="Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"></span>Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"],"text":"Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote","linkableTitle":"Lower Antelope Canyon 2 FPC vote"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"></span>Stevage -- I hope you didn't feel obligated to vote for my image after my responses to your questions. I am not going to take it personally if the image is voted down for FP status. My verbose responses are typical; I'm more interested in being understood than anything else, and spend a lot of text making sure I get my point across. </p><p>I think with that particular image it's sometimes hard for people to grasp the scale, since it lacks a human being in the frame for reference. Maybe that makes it a tougher sell here. Cheers -- <a href="/wiki/User:Moondigger" title="User:Moondigger">moondigger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","author":"Moondigger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z-Lower_Antelope_Canyon_2_FPC_vote"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"></span>Gosh no. I have no idea what Lower Antelope Canyon is, and that image didn't help me understand that much - hence, not encyclopaedic. But if you're telling me that that's sandstone, then the image helps me understand a lot - and it's a lovely image to boot. Encyclopaedic + pretty = FP. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Aha... thanks. Your explanation makes sense. I'll keep that in mind for the next time I nominate a picture. Just because a photo was taken in a certain place doesn't mean that's the best article to attach it to on Wikipedia... -- <a href="/wiki/User:Moondigger" title="User:Moondigger">moondigger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z","author":"Moondigger","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moondigger-2006-06-08T22:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-06-08T22:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_3"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_3"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_3"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_3","replies":[]}}--></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On June 9, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/F%C3%AAte_des_lumi%C3%A8res" class="mw-redirect" title="Fête des lumières">Fête des lumières</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">the "Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images"],"text":"F\u00eate des Lumi\u00e8res images","linkableTitle":"F\u00eate des Lumi\u00e8res images"}--><h2 id="Fête_des_Lumières_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fête_des_Lumières_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z"><span id="F.C3.AAte_des_Lumi.C3.A8res_images"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fête_des_Lumières_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/F%C3%AAte_des_Lumi%C3%A8res" class="mw-redirect" title="Fête des Lumières">Fête des Lumières</a> images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fête_des_Lumières_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Fête des Lumières images"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images","timestamp":"2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images"],"text":"F\u00eate des Lumi\u00e8res images","linkableTitle":"F\u00eate des Lumi\u00e8res images"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-Fête_des_Lumières_images"></span>It's a combination of many factors, really. </p> <ul><li>I tend to disagree with using images larger than the default thumb size unless the image really calls for it (such as animations, graphics, maps and such that do no scale well). There is a reason thumb size can be set in user preferences.</li> <li>Whenever possible, I think it is to be avoided to start a section with a left-aligned images.</li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Fete_des_lumieres_candles.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Fete des lumieres candles.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Fete des lumieres candles.jpg</a> is rather on the low-quality end of the spectrum, and looks better scaled down more than it was.</li> <li>It looked weird to have just an image on the left,so I switched it to the right.</li></ul> <p>feel absolutely free to revert my changes. They are, in the end, personal opisions on what looks better in wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Circeus" title="User:Circeus">Circeus</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-Fête_des_Lumières_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-Fête_des_Lumières_images"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z","author":"Circeus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-F\u00eate_des_Lumi\u00e8res_images","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Circeus-2006-06-11T03:07:00.000Z-Fête_des_Lumières_images"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"],"text":"French featured articles","linkableTitle":"French featured articles"}--><h2 id="French_featured_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"></span>French featured articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: French featured articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_featured_articles-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"],"text":"French featured articles","linkableTitle":"French featured articles"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"></span>Hi Stevage. I've just noted you asked Bridesmill about a list of featured articles in the French language, which have no English correspondent article. With absolutely no correspondent there are <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calmin" class="extiw" title="fr:Calmin">fr:Calmin</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_49_de_la_Constitution_de_la_cinqui%C3%A8me_R%C3%A9publique_fran%C3%A7aise" class="extiw" title="fr:Article 49 de la Constitution de la cinquième République française">fr:Article 49 de la Constitution de la cinquième République française</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippias_majeur" class="extiw" title="fr:Hippias majeur">fr:Hippias majeur</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_de_S%C3%BBrya_(Kon%C3%A2rak)" class="extiw" title="fr:Temple de Sûrya (Konârak)">fr:Temple de Sûrya (Konârak)</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phare_de_la_Vieille" class="extiw" title="fr:Phare de la Vieille">fr:Phare de la Vieille</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nom_de_r%C3%A8gne_des_papes" class="extiw" title="fr:Nom de règne des papes">fr:Nom de règne des papes</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violences_urbaines" class="extiw" title="fr:Violences urbaines">fr:Violences urbaines</a>. With the English article only at meagre stub level there are <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naumachie" class="extiw" title="fr:Naumachie">fr:Naumachie</a> (English <a href="/wiki/Naumachia" title="Naumachia">Naumachia</a>), <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritiques_de_l%27alphabet_grec" class="extiw" title="fr:Diacritiques de l'alphabet grec">fr:Diacritiques de l'alphabet grec</a> (Eng. <a href="/wiki/Diacritics_(Greek_alphabet)" class="mw-redirect" title="Diacritics (Greek alphabet)">Diacritics (Greek alphabet)</a>), <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampi" class="extiw" title="fr:Sampi">fr:Sampi</a> (Eng. <a href="/wiki/Sampi" title="Sampi">Sampi</a>), <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivoire_Barberini" class="extiw" title="fr:Ivoire Barberini">fr:Ivoire Barberini</a> (Eng. <a href="/wiki/Barberini_ivory" title="Barberini ivory">Barberini ivory</a>), <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missorium_de_Th%C3%A9odose" class="extiw" title="fr:Missorium de Théodose">fr:Missorium de Théodose</a> (Eng. <a href="/wiki/Missorium_of_Theodosius_I" title="Missorium of Theodosius I">Missorium of Theodosius I</a>). Hope this list is of some help. Bye, <a href="/wiki/User:Aldux" title="User:Aldux">Aldux</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","author":"Aldux","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles","replies":["c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z-French_featured_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"></span>I'm happy you liked it :-) Regards <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violences_urbaines" class="extiw" title="fr:Violences urbaines">fr:Violences urbaines</a>, there doesn't seem to be, surprisingly, a similar English article; with the possible exception of <a href="/wiki/Civil_disorder" title="Civil disorder">Civil disorder</a>, which doesn't really appear to be exactly the same ground.--<a href="/wiki/User:Aldux" title="User:Aldux">Aldux</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Aldux","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aldux-2006-06-12T20:01:00.000Z-Aldux-2006-06-12T15:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"],"text":"Cricket fielding positions diagram","linkableTitle":"Cricket fielding positions diagram"}--><h2 id="Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"></span>Cricket fielding positions diagram<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Cricket fielding positions diagram"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"],"text":"Cricket fielding positions diagram","linkableTitle":"Cricket fielding positions diagram"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"></span>Hi, I've just voted on the FPC page for this. I like the diagram, and is the best I've seen. However there is a problem with it, as I mentioned with my vote. The position of the runner is incorrect. It would be easiest to simply delete it from the diagram, as to correct it will look too messy. You'd have to show the Striker's End umpire in two different positions, and show an Injured striker at Square Leg. </p><p>I've just noticed another problem, you shouldn't refer to the Striker's End Umpire as the Square Leg Umpire, and so that should be changed as well. </p><p>Apart from that very good diagram. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wisden17" title="User:Wisden17">Wisd</a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza" title="Wikipedia:Esperanza"><span style="color:green;"><b>e</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wisden17" title="User talk:Wisden17">n17</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","author":"Wisden17","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram","replies":["c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Wisd"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z-Cricket_fielding_positions_diagram"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"></span>One other really pedantic thing, the width of the pitch (the brown rectangle) should be wider than the crease markings. The pitch is 10 feet wide, whilst the distance bewteen the return creases is 8' 8<i>. I'd be surprised if other people notice that! --<a href="/wiki/User:Wisden17" title="User:Wisden17">Wisd</a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza" title="Wikipedia:Esperanza"><span style="color:green;"><b>e</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wisden17" title="User talk:Wisden17">n17</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"></span></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z","author":"Wisden17","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Wisd"}}--></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Hi, yeah I realised that it wasn't your original diagram but saw you'd done a few edits to the original so was just suggesting a few more. The term square-leg umpire is indeed an unofficial term, and will not be found in the Laws of Cricket. The reason why it is not an ideal term is this, to quote Law 3 <i>The umpire at the striker's end may elect to stand on the off side instead of the on side of the pitch</i> meaning that the striker's end umpire need not be at square leg, and indeed with the stuff about the runner above you can see that he needs to be at point with the runner at square leg. Hope that helps. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wisden17" title="User:Wisden17">Wisd</a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza" title="Wikipedia:Esperanza"><span style="color:green;"><b>e</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wisden17" title="User talk:Wisden17">n17</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wisden17-2006-06-16T19:45:00.000Z-Wisden17-2006-06-16T18:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Frymaster-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sigs_etc-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Frymaster-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z-Sigs_etc"],"text":"Sigs etc","linkableTitle":"Sigs etc"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frymaster-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z-Sigs_etc"></span>cyde has some very strong opinions on sig files and in the never ending debate over whether people should edit other user's sig files, he is firmly in the edit camp. there have been several wikipedians who have questioned this activity in the past and there has been a <i>lot</i> of heated debate that has generated, in my opinion, a lot of bad will and division. you should check out <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tony_Sidaway_3">the rfc on tony_sidaway</a> to get an idea of the heaviness that surrounds this issue. in any event, my advice is not to engage cyde on this topic. it will most likelyonly result in a lot of frustration, and your sig will never be safe from edits in any event. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Frymaster" title="User:Frymaster">frymaster</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Frymaster-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z-Sigs_etc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frymaster-2006-06-16T19:54:00.000Z-Sigs_etc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FPC_Promotion-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion"],"text":"FPC Promotion","linkableTitle":"FPC Promotion"}--></div></div></div> <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border: 1px solid #CC9; background-color: #cfc"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg/75px-Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg/113px-Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg/150px-Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="2010" data-file-height="2690"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><b>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Featured picture candidate</a> has been promoted</b></div> Your nomination for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_pictures" title="Wikipedia:Featured pictures">featured picture</a> status, <b><a href="/wiki/File:Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg" title="File:Cricket fielding positions2.svg">Image:Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg</a></b>, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Stevage, there is a slight problem with the diagram. When I go to <a href="/wiki/File:Cricket_fielding_positions2.svg" title="File:Cricket fielding positions2.svg">its page</a> to add the featured picture tag, the page loads but the Image tab at the top is red, indicating that the file doesn't exist. So I can't edit the page to add the tag. ???? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Moondigger" title="User:Moondigger">moondigger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z","author":"Moondigger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion","replies":["c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z-FPC_Promotion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z"></span>Problem fixed. Thanks... -- <a href="/wiki/User:Moondigger" title="User:Moondigger">moondigger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z","author":"Moondigger","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moondigger-2006-06-18T14:20:00.000Z-Moondigger-2006-06-18T02:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"],"text":"Ecclesiastical history","linkableTitle":"Ecclesiastical history"}--><h2 id="Ecclesiastical_history" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"></span>Ecclesiastical history<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Ecclesiastical history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","timestamp":"2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ecclesiastical_history-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"],"text":"Ecclesiastical history","linkableTitle":"Ecclesiastical history"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"></span>Please help with an annoying editor. <a href="/wiki/User:Fastifex" title="User:Fastifex">user:Fastifex</a> is adding everywhere stupid, out of date and unrelevant text copied abruplty from Catholic Encyclopedia in articles for Italian communes. When I deleted them, he reverted. When I moved them to separate articles, he also reverted the thing without debating at all. I think he's searching for an edit war to have an excuse to impose his stupid chunk of bad written stuff. Please help me. The article involved are: <a href="/wiki/Camerino" title="Camerino">Camerino</a>, <a href="/wiki/Otranto" title="Otranto">Otranto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaeta" title="Gaeta">Gaeta</a> and <a href="/wiki/Adria" title="Adria">Adria</a> (for the moment). I think the separate entry for ecclesiastical histories is fairly reasaonable, but I seem he's sticking to his view without listening any reason. Let me know and good work. --<a href="/wiki/User:Attilios" title="User:Attilios">Attilios</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","author":"Attilios","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","replies":["c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. It's a pleasure to see that I'm not the stupid one in this quarrel... As for you, 1) Thanks for your opinion. 2) Nothin' special. I'd like you could give me some support in the event of Fastifex should start an edit war. I'll let you know, if you want to help me. Ciao and thanks very much again! --<a href="/wiki/User:Attilios" title="User:Attilios">Attilios</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Attilios","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:02:00.000Z-Attilios-2006-06-19T08:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"></span>I gave a glance. You could see:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Ecclesiastical_history_of_Adria&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ecclesiastical history of Adria (page does not exist)">Ecclesiastical history of Adria</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ecclesiastical_history_of_Camerino" class="mw-redirect" title="Ecclesiastical history of Camerino">Ecclesiastical history of Camerino</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ecclesiastical_history_of_Gaeta" class="mw-redirect" title="Ecclesiastical history of Gaeta">Ecclesiastical history of Gaeta</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Ecclesiastical_history_of_Otranto&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ecclesiastical history of Otranto (page does not exist)">Ecclesiastical history of Otranto</a></li></ul> <p>It seems that intelligence and good taste are not Fastifex' main qualities. Further, he sticks with stupid info about 1911 data (nr. of parishes, nr. of feminine school, etc.) without nothing provided for today's situation. Cannot really understand how his neurons work. Thanks for help and attention. Bye. (<i>P.S.: something similar happened when a dispute arose about the presence of prayers in saints articles. Of course all the Christian guys here revolted against their suppression...</i>) --<a href="/wiki/User:Attilios" title="User:Attilios">Attilios</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Attilios","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Attilios-2006-06-19T17:17:00.000Z-Ecclesiastical_history"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"],"text":"Re: talk page question","linkableTitle":"Re: talk page question"}--><h2 id="Re:_talk_page_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z"></span>Re: talk page question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Re: talk page question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question","timestamp":"2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_talk_page_question-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"],"text":"Re: talk page question","linkableTitle":"Re: talk page question"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"></span>I was short for time on the rv's...otherwise I would have had more time to explain. That particular anon is recurring(albeit with a slightly different IP each time) and has a bit of "English pride". The pride part is fine(like you I have no opinion either way)...but the user tends to rm to semi-accurate "Brit" link and replace it with the disambig English language (as opposed to a England|English) link. The user has been rv'd and been given the corrected link before but doesn't appear to care. If I had the time I would have pasted a corrected link myself. Last evening I was having to "one button it" for awhile. Hope that explains things. Cheers and take care! <a href="/wiki/User:Anger22" title="User:Anger22">Anger22</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z","author":"Anger22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anger22-2006-06-22T12:22:00.000Z-Re:_talk_page_question"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="your_change_to_WP:DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-your_change_to_WP:DYK"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-your_change_to_WP:DYK"></span>your change to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYK">WP:DYK</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-your_change_to_WP:DYK"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: your change to WP:DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-your_change_to_WP:DYK","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Hi... saw this change <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADid_you_know&diff=60205263&oldid=60184111">[1]</a>... thanks for tightening that. It was wordy because the change is the subject of some discussion on <a href="/w/index.php?title=WPT:DYK&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="WPT:DYK (page does not exist)">WPT:DYK</a>. I think it would be great if you'd pop by and give your input... it's the tail end of the discussion page at current, starting with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Selecting_one.27s_own_articles" title="Wikipedia talk:Did you know">Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Selecting_one.27s_own_articles</a> thanks! 18:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"],"text":"Paris Eengleesh","linkableTitle":"Paris Eengleesh"}--><h2 id="Paris_Eengleesh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"></span>Paris Eengleesh<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Paris Eengleesh"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Paris_Eengleesh-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"],"text":"Paris Eengleesh","linkableTitle":"Paris Eengleesh"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"></span>Stevage, </p><p>How about coming to the Paris article for a spin? The page has just recieved another language complaint, and as far as I know this sort of problem is in your ballpark. Everything present is quite factual, so no worries about adding or cutting anything - just about cleaning it up! </p><p>I'm doing my best to finish a last 'Education' section before it goes to peer review - but I'm overworked these days, and have little time for anything else besides monitoring and dabbling. If you could lend a hand there too that would be cool - it's in my <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader/sandbox" title="User:ThePromenader/sandbox">sandbox</a>. </p><p>Thanks and take care, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z-Paris_Eengleesh"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"></span>Shouldn't that be <i> "Shanks, but no shanks?" </i> ? : ) <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size:12px;"><span style="font-size:16px;">T</span>HE<span style="font-size:16px;">P</span>ROMENADER</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-06-24T17:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-06-23T21:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna"],"text":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Bruno Senna","linkableTitle":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Bruno Senna"}--><h2 id="Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z"><span id="Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FBruno_Senna"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z"></span>Your vote on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bruno Senna">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bruno Senna</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bruno Senna"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna","timestamp":"2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna"],"text":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Bruno Senna","linkableTitle":"Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Bruno Senna"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna"></span>Hi Stevage,<br/> Sorry to bother you, but I've updated the captions on the edits to make it perfectly clear which version you support. Please update your vote and state <b>which version</b> you support. Please use the naming located under the main caption in bold, large text. Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Bruno_Senna","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-06-25T09:05:00.000Z-Your_vote_on_Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bruno_Senna"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"],"text":"TfD nomination of Template:--","linkableTitle":"TfD nomination of Template:--"}--><h2 id="TfD_nomination_of_Template:--" data-mw-thread-id="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z"></span>TfD nomination of Template:--<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: TfD nomination of Template:--"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--","timestamp":"2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:---2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"],"text":"TfD nomination of Template:--","linkableTitle":"TfD nomination of Template:--"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:--" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:--"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"></span>Template:--</a> has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:--" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion">the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Ais523" title="User:Ais523">ais523</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z","author":"Ais523","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ais523-2006-06-26T14:23:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:--"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"],"text":"WP:BEATLES","linkableTitle":"WP:BEATLES"}--><h2 id="WP:BEATLES" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEATLES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEATLES">WP:BEATLES</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: WP:BEATLES"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES","timestamp":"2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:BEATLES-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"],"text":"WP:BEATLES","linkableTitle":"WP:BEATLES"}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg/70px-AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg" decoding="async" width="70" height="53" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg/105px-AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg/140px-AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="768"/></a></span> </td> <td align="center">Hi! I've seen you around on <a href="/wiki/The_Beatles" title="The Beatles">The Beatles</a>' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles">WikiProject The Beatles</a>, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of <i>The Beatles</i> on Wikipedia? Please feel free to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Active_participants" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles">join us</a>.<p>(If you're already a member, forgive me. It's a hot day!) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kingboyk" title="User:Kingboyk">kingboyk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Kingboyk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kingboyk-2006-07-03T17:00:00.000Z-WP:BEATLES"></span></p><p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" align="left"><small><a href="/wiki/Abbey_Road_(album)" class="mw-redirect" title="Abbey Road (album)">Abbey Road</a>... 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See also <a href="/wiki/User:CleanupWorklistBot" title="User:CleanupWorklistBot">the tool's wiki page</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/index.html">the index of WikiProjects</a>. </p> </div> <table style="background:none;color:inherit;width:auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align:top;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e6/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e6/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e6/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span><br/><div style="width: 55px; height: 0px;"></div> </td> <td> <div style="position: relative; left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; z-index: 15;">Here are some tasks awaiting attention: <ul style="font-size: 100%; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0px 0.3em 25px;"> <li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles">Article requests</a></i> :</b> Articles on each Beatle tour (<a href="/wiki/Category:The_Beatles_concert_tours" title="Category:The Beatles concert tours">Category:The Beatles concert tours</a>). See: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Missing_articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Missing articles">Missing articles</a>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles" title="Wikipedia:Writing better articles">Expand</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/The_Lost_Lennon_Tapes" title="The Lost Lennon Tapes">The Lost Lennon Tapes</a>, notable radio series which has spawned many bootlegs. <a href="/wiki/Apple_Records" title="Apple Records">Apple Records</a> See also: <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Adopt_an_article" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles">Adopt an article</a></b></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">Stubs</a></i> :</b> See: <a href="/wiki/Category:The_Beatles_song_stubs" title="Category:The Beatles song stubs">Category:The Beatles song stubs</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:As_of" title="Wikipedia:As of">Update</a></i> :</b> <b>Pics/Graphics wanted</b>: <a href="/wiki/Kenwood,_St._George%27s_Hill" class="mw-redirect" title="Kenwood, St. George's Hill">Kenwood</a>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">Verify</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cynthia_Powell#Beatles_wives" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Cynthia Powell">Beatle wives</a></li><li><b><i>Other</i> :</b> <b>Project</b>: Add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:WikiProject_The_Beatles" title="Template:WikiProject The Beatles">WikiProject The Beatles</a>}}</code> to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members and coordinate tasks. Enter articles <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Assessment">assessed as stubs</a> onto this list, also list articles needing cleanup and other work here.</li> </ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> <b>If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Log" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Log">project log</a></b>. </p> </div> </div> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> </div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"],"text":"A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles","linkableTitle":"A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles"}--><h2 id="A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z"></span>A favour to ask relating to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Beatles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Beatles">WP:Beatles</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles","timestamp":"2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"],"text":"A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles","linkableTitle":"A favour to ask relating to WP:Beatles"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"></span>Would you consider helping out with an important task? We need the comments made earlier migrated. See: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Help_wanted" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles">Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Help_wanted</a> which discusses the instructions for the task given here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Article_Classification/Migrating" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Article Classification/Migrating">Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Article Classification/Migrating</a>. It would really help the project out a lot. Feedback on the instructions themselves gratefully received as well. Feel free to ask others for help. Thanks! ++<a href="/wiki/User:Lar" title="User:Lar">Lar</a>: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lar" title="User talk:Lar">t</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lar" title="Special:Contributions/Lar">c</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lar-2006-07-04T18:23:00.000Z-A_favour_to_ask_relating_to_WP:Beatles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"],"text":"Proposed Georgia Move","linkableTitle":"Proposed Georgia Move"}--><h2 id="Proposed_Georgia_Move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z"></span>Proposed Georgia Move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Proposed Georgia Move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move","timestamp":"2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_Georgia_Move-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"],"text":"Proposed Georgia Move","linkableTitle":"Proposed Georgia Move"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"></span>As a past participant in the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Georgia#poll" title="Talk:Georgia">discussion on how to handle the Georgia pages</a>, I thought you might be interested to know that there's a new attempt to reach consensus on the matter being addressed at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Georgia_(country)#Requested_Move_-_July_2006" title="Talk:Georgia (country)">Talk:Georgia (country)#Requested_Move_-_July_2006</a>. Please come by and share your thoughts to help form a consensus. --<a href="/wiki/User:Vengeful_Cynic" title="User:Vengeful Cynic">Vengeful Cynic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z","author":"Vengeful Cynic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vengeful_Cynic-2006-07-08T03:40:00.000Z-Proposed_Georgia_Move"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"],"text":"Rivers in France","linkableTitle":"Rivers in France"}--><h2 id="Rivers_in_France" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span>Rivers in France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Rivers in France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rivers_in_France-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"],"text":"Rivers in France","linkableTitle":"Rivers in France"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"></span>You've been moving some French river articles lately, referring to consistency and a discussion on the WikiProject French départements. I think this discussion refers to rivers where disambiguation is necessary, because there is a département with the same name. In other cases, where disambiguation is not necessary, because there is nothing else with the same name (or only very insignificant places/objects), I prefer the name without "River". See also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Rivers#Naming" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers">Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers#Naming</a>, that clearly states that names without "River" are allowed. <a href="/wiki/User:Markussep" title="User:Markussep">Markussep</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Markussep","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France","replies":["c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z-Rivers_in_France"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span>My main objection against "River" is that it implies that "River" is part of the name, which it isn't, for most European (and African, Asian etc.) rivers. See the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rivers/Naming" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers/Naming">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers/Naming</a>. Of the 130 French river articles, 61 need disambiguation. In other countries, that don't have départements named after rivers, the disambiguation ratio is even lower (e.g. Germany, Belgium, Italy). <a href="/wiki/User:Markussep" title="User:Markussep">Markussep</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z","author":"Markussep","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T09:24:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span>I don't think it makes sense to move all French rivers to "X River". <a href="/wiki/User:Markussep" title="User:Markussep">Markussep</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Markussep","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-11T13:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z"></span>If ever River is to be included in the article's name it is to be placed in front, not behind the river's name, regardless of consistency. French river naming places <i>rivière</i> in front of the name, as it in <i>English</i>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Captain_scarlet" title="User:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#000000;">Captain Scarlet</span></a></b> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_scarlet" title="User talk:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#FF0000;">and the Mysterons</span></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z","author":"Captain scarlet","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:32:00.000Z-Markussep-2006-07-14T20:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"],"text":"Guinness Storehouse","linkableTitle":"Guinness Storehouse"}--><h2 id="Guinness_Storehouse" data-mw-thread-id="h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Guinness_Storehouse" title="Guinness Storehouse">Guinness Storehouse</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Guinness Storehouse"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse","timestamp":"2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Guinness_Storehouse-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"],"text":"Guinness Storehouse","linkableTitle":"Guinness Storehouse"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"></span>Hi Stevage. Just to let you know, I've merged the content of the article into the brewery page (<a href="/wiki/St._James%27s_Gate_Brewery" class="mw-redirect" title="St. James's Gate Brewery">St. James's Gate Brewery</a>), where the exhibition was already mentioned, and put a redirect in place. The information you added is fine - and might go back later to being a separate article - but at the moment it is more appropriate to keep related information in the same place. If you like beer (which I suspect you do, if you have visited the Guinness brewery), you might consider joining <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Beer" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer">Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer</a>. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:SilkTork" title="User:SilkTork">SilkTork</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z","author":"SilkTork","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilkTork-2006-07-16T08:10:00.000Z-Guinness_Storehouse"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"],"text":"Uncat tags","linkableTitle":"Uncat tags"}--><h2 id="Uncat_tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z"></span>Uncat tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Uncat tags"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags","timestamp":"2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Uncat_tags-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"],"text":"Uncat tags","linkableTitle":"Uncat tags"}--></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"></span>My practice is to remove the uncat tag when there's even one category (other than birth and death years). Otherwise, it's too hard to know which items on the uncat list need work. <a href="/wiki/User:NawlinWiki" title="User:NawlinWiki">NawlinWiki</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z","author":"NawlinWiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NawlinWiki-2006-07-16T23:25:00.000Z-Uncat_tags"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set"}--><h2 id="Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z"></span>Vote on Fir0002 FPC set<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Vote on Fir0002 FPC set"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set","timestamp":"2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> Hope you can stop by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Horse_Racing">here</a> and leave your much appreciated thoughts. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-07-30T12:14:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-R\u00e9gions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-R\u00e9gions_of_France"],"text":"R\u00e9gions of France","linkableTitle":"R\u00e9gions of France"}--><h2 id="Régions_of_France" data-mw-thread-id="h-Régions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"><span id="R.C3.A9gions_of_France"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Régions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"></span>Régions of France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Régions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Régions of France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-R\u00e9gions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-R\u00e9gions_of_France"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-R\u00e9gions_of_France-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-R\u00e9gions_of_France"],"text":"R\u00e9gions of France","linkableTitle":"R\u00e9gions of France"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-Régions_of_France"></span>There are only 22 régions in France, of which the DOMs or TOMs are not part of. ROMS are not <i>régions</i> but <i>Région d'outre-mer</i> which is different. See <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gion_d%27outre-mer" class="extiw" title="fr:Région d'outre-mer">Région d'outre-mer</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Captain_scarlet" title="User:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#000000;">Captain Scarlet</span></a></b> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_scarlet" title="User talk:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#FF0000;">and the Mysterons</span></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-Régions_of_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-Régions_of_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","author":"Captain scarlet","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-R\u00e9gions_of_France","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z-Régions_of_France"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"></span>Ok, put them in a separate line in the template. I think it would be amiss to leave them out altogether, because you'd have the question "well, what région *do* these départements belong to?" <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z"></span>I removed them from the régions template because they aren't régions and do not literally belong to one as they have special status. Not all French territories are part of régions. Secondly, DOMs are included in <a href="/wiki/Template:Pr%C3%A9fectures_of_d%C3%A9partements_of_France" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Préfectures of départements of France">Template:Préfectures of départements of France</a> along with the other 95 départements and was hoping to remove a double presence. Cheers, <b><a href="/wiki/User:Captain_scarlet" title="User:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#000000;">Captain Scarlet</span></a></b> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_scarlet" title="User talk:Captain scarlet"><span style="color:#FF0000;">and the Mysterons</span></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z","author":"Captain scarlet","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_scarlet-2006-08-10T09:38:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-10T09:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"],"text":"Captain scarlet's new template","linkableTitle":"Captain scarlet's new template"}--><h2 id="Captain_scarlet's_new_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"><span id="Captain_scarlet.27s_new_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"></span>Captain scarlet's new template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Captain scarlet's new template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Captain_scarlet's_new_template-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"],"text":"Captain scarlet's new template","linkableTitle":"Captain scarlet's new template"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"></span>I agree with you that the new <a href="/wiki/Template:Pr%C3%A9fectures_of_d%C3%A9partements_of_France" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Préfectures of départements of France">Template:Préfectures of départements of France</a> is way too large, and absolutely unnecessary. I left a note on the talk page there. Have a look. I must warn you that this user, Captain scarlet, has weird ideas about classifying French things (from railway lines, to tallest buildings, etc.). He has already started quite a few edit wars, and he has this tendency to act unilaterally, on a rash, such as he's done today by creating his template and uploading it to the 100 prefecture articles of France without consulting anyone. Two weeks ago his account was blocked for a week because he tried to move unilaterally <a href="/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris" class="mw-redirect" title="List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris">List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris</a> to "List of tallest buildings and structures in Île-de-France". If you want to revert to your regional template and if Captain scarlet opposes it (which is probable), then we'll have to refer this to some admins. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z-Captain_scarlet's_new_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"></span>Third opinion? Yes, you could leave your opinion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris">Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris</a>, if you can bother to read the very many messages there. It has been decided that there is no consensus to move the article, but if you also oppose the move you can express your opinion anyway, it won't hurt. Also, you could express yourself at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Paris#What_is_this?" title="Talk:Paris">Talk:Paris#What is this?</a>, where <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader">User:ThePromenader</a> is, as usual, accusing me of all sorts of villainies, like distorting reality, writing theories and POV, being at the center of a conspiracy (whose goal is still quite unclear to me, the guy at the center of it; lol), and so forth. As you can see, nothing has changed much since you left the article last January. Promenader is still tirelessly arguing over each and every edit I make. This time it's an edit I made a few days ago about administration in Paris and the legal history of the municipality. You can find the content of my edit here: <a href="/wiki/Paris#Municipal_offices" title="Paris">Paris#Municipal offices</a>. If you want to make a brief comeback to express yourself on this particular point, then allow me to soliciter officiellement ton avis. Lol. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-10T18:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-999-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-999-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode"],"text":"Reply re CatherineYronwode","linkableTitle":"Reply re CatherineYronwode"}--><h2 id="Reply_re_CatherineYronwode" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Reply re CatherineYronwode<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Reply re CatherineYronwode"><span>edit</span></a><span 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CatherineYronwode"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-999-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode"></span>But 1) it wasn't done by mistake, she simply changed her mind, and 2) other people worked on it. -<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:999 (page does not exist)">999</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:999 (page does not exist)">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-999-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-999-2006-08-10T19:30:00.000Z-Reply_re_CatherineYronwode"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/10_August" class="mw-redirect" title="10 August">10 August</a>, <a href="/wiki/2006" title="2006">2006</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Kate_McTell" title="Kate McTell">Kate McTell</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"],"text":"And this too","linkableTitle":"And this too"}--><h2 id="And_this_too" data-mw-thread-id="h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"></span>And this too<span data-mw-comment-end="h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: And this too"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__16__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-And_this_too-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too","c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"],"text":"And this too","linkableTitle":"And this too"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span>Oh, yesterday I forgot to tell you the article where your "avis" is most "solicité". It's <a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_(r%C3%A9gion)" class="mw-redirect" title="Île-de-France (région)">Île-de-France (région)</a>. You DO have to leave your word on the talk page there. A few weeks ago, ThePromenader deleted this sentence from the introduction of the article, despite <a href="/wiki/User:Metropolitan" title="User:Metropolitan">User:Metropolitan</a> and myself being in favor of keeping that sentence: " Its territory corresponds for the most part to the <a href="/wiki/Aire_urbaine" class="mw-redirect" title="Aire urbaine">metropolitan area</a> of <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a>." I still don't understand what is so monstruously conspirational about that sentence that it had to be removed from the article. In any case, despite two users in favor of keeping the sentence, and only Promenader in favor of deleting it, if I dare to put the sentence back in the article, you know Promenader, he won't hesitate to wage a revert war to delete it again. So a third-opinion is much needed on the talk page. Should you also be in favor of keeping that sentence, then I think we can safely put it back (I don't believe that Promenader would delete it again in the face of three people in favor of keeping it, but who knows...). <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Tell me, how long has this battle over "metropolitan area" vs "aire urbaine" vs "région parisienne" vs "ile-de-france" etc being going on? I would like to know so I can list it at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars" title="Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars">Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars</a> :) It's just bizarre. Whether the sentence is there or not doesn't seem to make much difference to me. If it's true, I'd tend to put it there, but...????? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T13:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z"></span>It has been going on for as long as Promenader has been on Wikipedia really, which is since last November. Back then he was known as Josefu, but he later changed his sceenname. Before that, I have been on Wikipedia for more than three years, there was never any edit war about Paris-related things. Apparently, Promenader believes that <a href="/wiki/User:Metropolitan" title="User:Metropolitan">User:Metropolitan</a>, myself, and God knows who else are conspiring to present Paris as something it is not. Apparently we are presenting Paris as a large world city when actually it's a small city that cannot withstand comparison with the likes of NYC or Chicago. We are evil conspirators you know... Thanks God, ThePromenader has assigned himself the mission to restore truth to Wikipedia and foil our evil plot. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-11T14:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z"></span>The conspiracy theory is amusing : ) What it about amounts to is a couple suburban kids doctoring a few low-traffic high-ignorance pages with the goal of making a city seem big enough so they can pretend they live there. The funniest of all this is that French (Paris) administration is so backwards that the <a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_(r%C3%A9gion)" class="mw-redirect" title="Île-de-France (région)">Île-de-France</a> as a body has by far outgrown in importance even the city of Paris itself - yet the same actor(s) are hell-bent on having the whole thing called 'Paris' over any other name, even when this goes against every reference, administration and usage in existence - not to mention trying to con the ignorant bystander if it serves the same end.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Open a book, look at a map, link to a government website and fact is there for you. Look at the reams of talk pages, and discern who is asking for/providing references and who has only comparitive theories as 'proof'. It is only a matter of time (and traffic) that pages such as these find order thanks to a domination of those interested in sharing information, rather than those with other more personal interests and viewpoints. Sorry that once again you're involved in all this silliness. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, Promenader, for hijacking Stevage's talk page. He'll probably appreciate that. It only shows that you're tracking all my edits, even when I send messages to other Wikipedians. And for your information, I am not a "kid", and I don't live in the suburbs of Paris. As for the other users, I don't know where they live, but calling them "kids" only show your profound disrespect for people who disagree with you. What do you think Stevage, should we file a complaint on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">noticeboard</a>? I am sick and tired of Promenader's attitude. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T22:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Any argument but fact as usual. Stevage and I have conversed many times before, so it is only natural that he is on my watchlist. By all means, please complain. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:51:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-11T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span>Oh, yes, and for the IDF 'comparison' phrase: Did you know that Mumbai with its official suburban district are about the same size as the Mumbai metropolitan area? What informative value does this phrase have for you if you know the size of neither? That is why it is gone, and for no reason more. Hardouin also neglected to mention that others on the same talk page were quite kind enough to point the truth of the matter out to him. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-11T23:37:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span>Question, for my own sanity, would it be possible to have a one sentence summary of the position you each take wrt this Paris/metropolitan area thing? Perhaps we can format it like this: </p> <ul><li>Hardouin: ThePromenader believes that...</li> <li>Hardouin: I believe that...</li> <li>ThePromenader: I believe that...Only the city of Paris is called only 'Paris', and this is a fact reflected in every map, reference and government documentation in existence, and reflected especially in local usage; only the very ignorant (those having no idea where Paris' borders are) or extremely offhanded could ever place to anything bigger under the same title.</li> <li>ThePromenader: Hardouin believes that...</li></ul> <p><br/> One sentence, only! Thanks :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T08:17:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span>Hmmm - It's kind of you to offer to play referee (once again), but your allergy to verifying the fact of allegations would mean another endless circle argument should it persist. But the cause of the conflict in once sentence? Here goes:</dd></dl> <p><snip, moved above> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"></span>Whew. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T09:24:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"></span>Ok, well that makes things easy. Your position is flawed. It's not a question of being ignorant. It's a question of context and what's useful to the reader. "Paris has a population of 10 million." "The city of Paris has a population of 2 million." "2 million people live in Paris." - these statements don't necessarily conflict. </p><p>You don't seem to accept that it's ok to use terms in imprecise ways, or that we can redefine a term for the sake of an article. Every article topic has an imprecise scope. It's up to us to decide what's in and what's out, in terms of what best serves our readers. The scope of a city is necessarily imprecise. Do we stop at the administrative borders? Do we stop at a statistical border? Do we do a bit of both, but include things that are *near* the city, because they are relevant? Do we exclude things that *are* in the city, because for some reason they don't seem to fit the topic? If someone wants to find the height of a building at la Défense, do we serve their needs by refusing to include it in a list of "buildings in Paris"? Of course not. Do we serve anyone's interests by wasting paragraph after paragraph splitting hairs over fine differences in definition? No. </p><p>As far as our articles should be concerned, Paris is whatever most people say it is. If we're trying to give a population to the nearest person, then we're going to have to be precise for that figure: The 1999 census of the city of Paris counted xxxxxxx people. But then we can go right back to talking about La Défense, Versailles, Clichy-sous-bois, Orly, and Eurodisney, because all those places have some "relevance" to Paris. </p><p>TP: Fighting for "truth" on Wikipedia is a really, really, bad idea. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z-And_this_too-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"></span>For both our sanity, I suggest you stay out of this. When a situation is already black and white, why make things grey? I don't "believe" anything, and there is no "quest for truth" in anything I do: Reality backed by reference says one thing, Wiki says another. That's it!</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It's okay to use imprecise terms under certain contexts <i>within</i> articles - and that only when it's clear what we're talking about - but in article <i>titles</i> ? Is our role here to <i>introduce</i> ambiguity? Why do this when the references we are obliged to cite do not? What is the big deal in changing "Paris" to "Paris region" if it would make the article concord with fact? It's the <i>resistance</i> and reverting to what should be a minor correction that fills talk pages with unreferencable crap. If you really care about the reader in all this, master your misgivings, get out an encyclopaedia and have a look into the fact of the matter so that he can find the same fact elsewhere, and help put an end to these "only on Wiki" articles. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T10:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z"></span>The reality is that Paris is a city comparable with London and Berlin, and a hell of a lot bigger than Sydney. Claiming that only the "Paris region" is bigger than Sydney, for instance, is just attempting to confuse things.</dd> <dd>As for article titles - well, look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions">wikipedia:naming conventions</a>. From one of the first paragraphs:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><i>Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature.</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><i>Another way to summarize the overall principle of Wikipedia's naming conventions:</i> <dl><dd><i>Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists.</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>There is not even the briefest mention there of "concording with reality", the word "accuracy" does not rate a mention, and I don't see the word "imprecision". Read it! Really! The key words used are "recognize", "minimum of ambiguity", and "general audience". You could argue that "Paris" is ambiguous, but not many would agree with you. We all agree that it's centered on Ile de la cité, and it spreads out it roughly a circular shape. Attempting to cram information about how big that circle is into the title is *not* helping readers.</dd> <dd>I really ought to have a look at <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a> now compared to a year ago, and see what's changed. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T11:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z"></span>Now we're back to interpretation, and this is a zone I always try to avoid. Rather, where is the need to alter fact for comprehensibility when fact as it is is already perfectly comprehensible to all? What is there not to understand in "in the Paris region"? Where are we "cramming information" in all that? Although I'm working elsewhere, I'm going to stop answering you for a while as it seems that you've got some personal feelings in this.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>As for the Paris article, your language skills there would be a help for sure. Cheers. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T11:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z"></span>Personal feelings, heh. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T12:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z"></span>I'm sure I'd piss myself off too if I wasn't 100% sure where was coming from. I also take a break from me, not just for you. Cheers. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T14:40:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-12T12:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"],"text":"Changes in Paris article","linkableTitle":"Changes in Paris article"}--><h2 id="Changes_in_Paris_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Changes in Paris article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Changes in Paris article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changes_in_Paris_article-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"],"text":"Changes in Paris article","linkableTitle":"Changes in Paris article"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"></span>Stevage, about the Paris article, there were lots of fights and edits wars since you left, but thanks God I was seconded by <a href="/wiki/User:Metropolitan" title="User:Metropolitan">User:Metropolitan</a> (who has now left Wikipedia due to ThePromenader's tiresome attitude, read Metropolitan's good-bye here: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris&diff=prev&oldid=62719064">[2]</a>), so anyway, with the help of this guy who is now gone we were able to save as much metro area-related information as we could from the article. For example, at some point, in the demographics section, Promenader wanted to remove all population information concerning the 11 million people metro area, leaving only information concerning the 2 million people administrative city proper, but in the end common sense prevailed and we managed to save it (the word "save" is not too strong, after the pitted edit war it took). </p><p>Unfortunately, bits of metro area information have disappeared here and there. It's not possible to monitor everything, and it's very tiresome to fight over every little detail with Promenader. For example, the article mentioned that the highest elevation in the City of Paris proper is Montmartre at 130m above sea-level, but in the whole urban area the highest elevation is in the Forest of Montmorency at 195m above sea-level. A few weeks ago, Promenader deleted the mention of the Forest of Montmorency (see: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris&diff=64089293&oldid=64089054">[3]</a>), again because for him the article should be limited only to the administrative city proper. Should I put the Forest of Montmorency's altitude back in the article, you can bet he'll start a new edit war (just for this little detail !). Another example is this: about 4 weeks ago, Promenader engaged in a nasty edit war because I had written that there are 17 public universities in the metropolitan area of Paris, but he contended that we should write "there are 17 public universities in the Paris region", and that's what the article states now because I gave up on that edit war. I don't understand why the concept of Paris metropolitan area irks him so much. It's beyond me... </p><p>Then, probably the most important change to the article is the infobox at the beginning of the article. Promenader decided that the infobox, which I had designed about 2 years ago, and which I had uploaded to several other large French cities, was crap because it gave too much importance to the metropolitan areas (again!). So he created new infoboxes and deleted all my infoboxes in all the large French cities articles. Check his new infobox at the beginning of the Paris article (or Lyon article if you prefer), it puts the metro area population at the very bottom of the infobox. You really have to look for it! He separated it from the rest of the infobox by creating a category called "urban spread". Metropolitan and I tried to tell him that the metro area population should appear immediately below the city population figure, such as is the case in all other city infoboxes (check <a href="/wiki/NYC" class="mw-redirect" title="NYC">NYC</a> or <a href="/wiki/Berlin" title="Berlin">Berlin</a>), but.... NO, out of question, he's persuaded that he's right with his "urban spread" section. Sigh... </p><p>If you want to intervene on any of the points I mentioned, in particular the infobox, don't hesitate. We shouldn't let ourselves be detered by Promenader's uncompromising and tiresome attitude. If we are the majority, we can change things even against his will. <a href="/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris" class="mw-redirect" title="List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris">List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris</a> is a good example where he was checked by a majority of other users who opposed his ideas. Like I told you already last January, I thought, and still think, that it's a bad idea that you left the Paris article just because of his uncompromising and tiring attitude. We're only rewarding his bad attitude by giving in to his relentless behavior and leaving the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z-Changes_in_Paris_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"></span>What can I say when I see the above. Not one mention of those who helped improve the article, not one mention of what actually was improved, no mention either of the efforts to rally contributors to the article, and certainly not any mention of those who did their best to make one Wikepiedian provide references for his quite original affirmations: just a single-person selective accusatory self-supporting diatribe saying "This is how I did it before, so help me put it back!"</dd></dl> <dl><dd>If the article is so bad, why is there only one complainer? Wait, I answered that above. Yet now that the article has passed a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PR">Peer Review</a>, why can it not pass to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FA">WP:FA</a> status? Largely because a single Wikipedian refuses to provide sources for his affirmations, at least those that can be sourced - I for one do not have time to verify them all. On the same subject, it is strange to see the same complaining about the removal of his false source: statistics taken in the IDF cannot be labelled as being taken over another 'preferred area'. Finally, just a reminder that consensus was for the <i>complete</i> removal of MA info from the infobox, and it was actually myself who campaigned for its preservation. How 'petite' to skip this little factoid.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It is only normal that one peddling fiction cannot hold out forever in a place publishing fact - yet, thanks to the use of every available tactic save fact, <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">User:Hardouin</a> has held out remarkably. <a href="/wiki/User:Stevage" title="User:Stevage">Stevage</a>, with all due respect, most likely for your proven reluctance to verify anything, you're being played for a potential lackey. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-12T13:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"],"text":"FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)","linkableTitle":"FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)"}--><h2 id="FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)" data-mw-thread-id="h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z"><span id="FPC_Candidate_.28Siberian_tiger.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z"></span>FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)","timestamp":"2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"],"text":"FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)","linkableTitle":"FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"></span>A comment was recently posted by <a href="/wiki/User:Samsara" title="User:Samsara">Samsara</a> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Siberian_Tiger" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Siberian Tiger">Siberian tiger</a> FPC. It concerned placing the image in another article (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Siberian_Tiger" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Siberian Tiger">the subpage</a> for the exact comment). I have now added the image to the <a href="/wiki/Stretching" title="Stretching">stretching</a> article, so you may or may not consider changing your vote (this is just to inform you of the change). Thanks. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Tewy" title="User:Tewy"><span style="color:#007FFF;">Tewy</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Tewy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tewy-2006-08-20T00:52:00.000Z-FPC_Candidate_(Siberian_tiger)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"],"text":"Melbourne","linkableTitle":"Melbourne"}--><h2 id="Melbourne" data-mw-thread-id="h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"></span>Melbourne<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Melbourne"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Melbourne-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"],"text":"Melbourne","linkableTitle":"Melbourne"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne"></span>I'd really like to know how Australia defines its cities, as it is not the first time they have been brought up in our *cough* many discussions. </p><p>By looking at the <a href="/wiki/Melbourne" title="Melbourne">Melbourne</a> article I see that it has a fixed population (3,689,700 inh.) and a fixed land area (7,694 km<sup>2</sup>), but no clearly defined unifying government or anything ... it's odd that there's no clear map. The populations numbers seem to come from a Melbourne Statistical area: the Australian census bureau does have <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/d4f3b7af766a4c4dca256f1900134a73/$FILE/Victoria.pdf">this map</a> (attn: 6.5m to load) showing this "Melbourne statistical area". Perhaps this is commonly called "Melbourne" there - but in Wiki common usage should only apply to name <i>forms</i> (borough, shire, etc) and not as reference to an offhand areas - this would not be factual. Thus I don't get the <a href="/wiki/Melbourne" title="Melbourne">Melbourne</a> article designation either. Much is vague around that one, but hey, <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a> is already big enough for me (jk). </p><p>Yet coming back to your article, if it is indeed common local practice to call greater Melbourne just "Melbourne", the journalist was probably applying the same local standards to Paris for better local understanding. I don't know where he got the figures though - a Google would be enough to find the right ones! It was interesting to look into, anyway. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z-Melbourne"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"></span>Promenader, check <a href="/wiki/City_of_Melbourne" title="City of Melbourne">City of Melbourne</a> and you'll understand. I've already proposed the <a href="/w/index.php?title=City_of_Paris.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="City of Paris. (page does not exist)">City of Paris</a>/<a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a> article pair thousands of times. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T16:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z"></span>It's probably not an exact parallel, because the city of Paris has much more salience for both French people and foreigners alike. There's a prestige associated with living in department 75 that even being a few hundred metres away just wouldn't have. In Melbourne, the "city of Melbourne" concept just seems very artificial. They seem to have recently renamed a bunch of these "cities" and did weird things - somehow I ended up in the amusingly named <a href="/w/index.php?title=City_of_Boorondara&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="City of Boorondara (page does not exist)">City of Boorondara</a> - a coherent, logical "city" in the same sense that the région of <a href="/wiki/Centre_(r%C3%A9gion)" class="mw-redirect" title="Centre (région)">Centre</a> is a coherent, logical grouping of départements.</dd> <dd>All of which is to say: The concept of "Paris" for the vast majority of people does not stop once one tippy toes down into Kremlin-Bicêtre (if I'm not confused), but many people probably recognise that there is an "official Paris" which has a certain amount of significance. Wikipedia should go with whatever naming is clearest and most easily understood, as long as there is no ambiguity over what the scope of any given article or factoid is.<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-08-21T16:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>We also have the pair <a href="/wiki/City_of_Brussels" title="City of Brussels">City of Brussels</a>/<a href="/wiki/Brussels" title="Brussels">Brussels</a>, although I believe (to use your language) that the city of Brussels has much more salience for both Belgian people and foreigners. There's also prestige associated with living in the City of Bruxelles (or "Bruxelles-Ville", as the locals call it). It's certainly more prestigious than living, say, in <a href="/wiki/Saint-Josse-ten-Noode" title="Saint-Josse-ten-Noode">Saint-Josse-ten-Noode</a>. Yet we have the article pair... <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-08-21T17:19:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"></span>I'll look into the "obnoxiousness" later - I'm on a mac. I saw the "City of Melbourne", and I also agree that there is little comparison. I'm sure Paris' <i>snobbisme</i> is a major reason why it is so isolated administratively, but well-defined it is. Yet even this is of no consequence, as all that counts is that that anyone on Wiki can get the same meaning of what they read anywhere else in any other reference - this is the whole purpose of <a href="/wiki/Verifiability" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Verifiability">verifiability</a>, finding a common factual base. Imagine a conversation or paper between two people with two different concepts of what "X place" is - there's bound to be confusion; our <a href="/wiki/Melbourne" title="Melbourne">Melbourne</a> exchange is a perfect example. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z","c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T21:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z-Melbourne"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Dude, your understanding of verifiability is really warped. Verifiability gives absolutely no guidance on naming, article structure, article division etc. It simply defines what content can and can't appear within any article. A statement is either verifible or it's not. So keep <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> out of this, it didn't do anything to deserve this. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Not at all. Don't mix conventions and fact. Naming conventions are not fact - Wiki says that <i>name form</i> has to be understandable to English people, and that's it. What that name <i>describes</i> is a complete other subject entirely in the domain of fact - <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8" class="extiw" title="ja:オレンジ">オレンジ</a> and <a href="/wiki/Orange" class="mw-disambig" title="Orange">orange</a> should follow their respective language naming conventions, but both rely on reference for their definition. The fact that X is X (or is in X) should be <a href="/wiki/Verifiable" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Verifiable">verifiable</a>. This shouldn't seem so complicated. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-22T12:15:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-08-22T10:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T21:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Odd. The mac single-se arrow shows up as a double-direction nw-se arrow in PC. Rather pointless - gone now. Thanks for the heads-up. <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;">the<span style="color:#ffffff;">promenader</span></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T21:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T21:10:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2006-08-21T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.60.227.118-2006-08-25T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Coca-Cola-2006-08-25T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-72.60.227.118-2006-08-25T17:36:00.000Z-Coca-Cola"],"text":"Coca-Cola","linkableTitle":"Coca-Cola"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-72.60.227.118-2006-08-25T17:36:00.000Z-Coca-Cola"></span>Please see the proposal to merge in <a href="/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola" title="Criticism of Coca-Cola">Criticism of Coca-Cola</a> at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Coca-Cola" title="Talk:Coca-Cola">Talk:Coca-Cola</a>.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:72.60.227.118&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:72.60.227.118 (page does not exist)">72.60.227.118</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-72.60.227.118-2006-08-25T17:36:00.000Z-Coca-Cola" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 25 August 2006 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set 2"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> Hope you can spare the time to put your thoughts on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Yarra_River_by_night">this set</a>. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-08-26T11:43:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"],"text":"Athletic fielding","linkableTitle":"Athletic fielding"}--><h2 id="Athletic_fielding" data-mw-thread-id="h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"></span>Athletic fielding<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Athletic fielding"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","timestamp":"2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Athletic_fielding-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"],"text":"Athletic fielding","linkableTitle":"Athletic fielding"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"></span>Hi, Stevage – I just noticed your old comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Comparison_between_cricket_and_baseball" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Comparison between cricket and baseball">Talk:Comparison between cricket and baseball</a> about the description of baseball fielding as athletic. I don't see <i>athletic</i> as a complimentary term, so I wasn't trying to imply anything by descxribing baseball fielding that way. Hockey players skate better than either cricketers or baseball players, but that isn't what makes hockey a superior sport. They just have more scope for skating. I have seen athletic fielding in cricket. Saw an amazing catch in the slips at Lord's once. I also saw, back when Christ was a cowboy, Doug Walters hit two mighty sixes there which have impressed me more than any home run I've ever seen hit, but on the whole there is (unfortunately) more power hitting in baseball because of the composition of the ball. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","author":"John FitzGerald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, still not quite following what you mean by "athletic" then. Since the ball is generally hit further/harder, it follows logically that the fielders return the ball more "athletically"? Anyway, it's just a word...:) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-09-04T19:48:00.000Z-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-04T02:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"></span>I'll check the wording in the article. I think the idea I wanted to convey is that the game offers more opportunity for athletic fielding and provides more instances of it, not that it baseball fielding is inherently more athletic. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> </p> <dl><dd>I made a couple of changes which I hope clarify the issue. I believe the article already notes that in some aspects (fielding in the slips or at mid-on or mid-off, for example) cricket offers more scope for athletic fielding. Maybe the real differences between the games are the big flat bats and baserunning, then. <a href="/wiki/User:John_FitzGerald" title="User:John FitzGerald">John FitzGerald</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z","author":"John FitzGerald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_FitzGerald-2006-09-05T13:26:00.000Z-Athletic_fielding"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\""],"text":"Tallest structures - \"Paris area\"","linkableTitle":"Tallest structures - \"Paris area\""}--><h2 id="Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z"><span id="Tallest_structures_-_.22Paris_area.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z"></span>Tallest structures - "Paris area"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Tallest structures - "Paris area""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\"","timestamp":"2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\"-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\""],"text":"Tallest structures - \"Paris area\"","linkableTitle":"Tallest structures - \"Paris area\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area""></span>A few of us have managed to come into agreement over an "in the Paris area" title - as a former participant in the discussion, your views and vote on the matter would much be welcome at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris">Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_\"Paris_area\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-05T18:11:00.000Z-Tallest_structures_-_"Paris_area""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"],"text":"Try to improve this sentence","linkableTitle":"Try to improve this sentence"}--><h2 id="Try_to_improve_this_sentence" data-mw-thread-id="h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z"></span>Try to improve this sentence<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Try to improve this sentence"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence","timestamp":"2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Try_to_improve_this_sentence-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"],"text":"Try to improve this sentence","linkableTitle":"Try to improve this sentence"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"></span>Hi there. ThePromenader is yet again moving Heaven and Earth to change one of my edits in the Paris article. Business as usual as you see. Anyway, he's basically proposing to delete a sentence I wrote some time ago, and replace it with his new "proposition". If I may try a joke, Promenader's "propositions" are a bit like Louis XIV's propositions, you can't really refuse them. Lol. </p><p>Anyway, his "proposition" is a bit awkwardly written, so I thought you could have a look and improve it. In the past when you have improved Promenader's long-winded prose, he was quite happy about it, so have a try. If I try myself, he will get all huffy-puffy and accuse me of evil actions and whatnot. With you it seems it's ok. </p><p>Your mission, should you accept it, consists in improving the "proposition" found at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Paris#Proposition" title="Talk:Paris">Talk:Paris#Proposition</a> and import it in this section: <a href="/wiki/Paris#Municipal_offices" title="Paris">Paris#Municipal offices</a>, in replacement of this awefully wrong and inadequate sentence of mine: "The provost of the merchants was shot by the crowd on <a href="/wiki/July_14" title="July 14">July 14</a>, <a href="/wiki/1789" title="1789">1789</a> (<a href="/wiki/Storming_of_the_Bastille" title="Storming of the Bastille">Storming of the Bastille</a>) and the next day a municipal council was elected with a mayor of Paris at its head." <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-09-06T11:08:00.000Z-Try_to_improve_this_sentence"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"],"text":"Childhood obesity image","linkableTitle":"Childhood obesity image"}--><h2 id="Childhood_obesity_image" data-mw-thread-id="h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Childhood_obesity" title="Childhood obesity">Childhood obesity</a> image<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Childhood obesity image"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Childhood_obesity_image-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"],"text":"Childhood obesity image","linkableTitle":"Childhood obesity image"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"></span>Good bold move. I'm 100% in favour of demonstrating the results of this condition but wish to remove controversy over the identity of the child. Rest assured you'll be in for an assault by the "hippie" brigade, but I'm just writing to say good move...! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Budgiekiller&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Budgiekiller (page does not exist)">Budgiekiller</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","author":"Budgiekiller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image","replies":["c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z-Childhood_obesity_image"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Regarding your edit summary in the new (obscured) childhood obesity image... May I please remind you to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a> and be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">WP:CIVIL</a>? Perhaps it seems to you that I didn't use "common sense" in linking the original image. However, I felt that we needed link back to that image at least until the discussion was closed. I'm pleased to see that the 'obscured' image seems to have placated both sides of this issue -- I had halfway expected the obscured image to either be removed outright, or reverted back to the unobscured one almost immediately, due to the level of controversy. Anyway, I didn't much like your accusation of not using common sense. I had reasons for doing things the way I did. I'm not sure if they were done properly, but they were done in good faith, and I would have happily agreed with your change if the cutting remark would have been ommitted. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rehcsif" title="User:Rehcsif">Rehcsif</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z","author":"Rehcsif","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z-Budgiekiller-2006-09-08T18:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z"></span>I'm assuming good faith, just poor judgment. It's a bit silly to obscure an image to protect someone's identity, then to link back to the unobscured image, don't you think? So yeah - good faith, but not too sensible. Sorry if my tone was a bit harsh, I'm just amazed that this issue needs as much discussion as it does. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T21:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z"></span>The point was to obscure the identity in the article, not make it so that nobody would ever see the child's picture again. You can easilly do that by going back through the history... Frankly I don't care whether her identity is obscured or not, so perhaps your view on this issue is what's making my judgement seem so "poor"? --<a href="/wiki/User:Rehcsif" title="User:Rehcsif">Rehcsif</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Rehcsif","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rehcsif-2006-09-11T23:32:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-11T22:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"],"text":"Your comment at Notability (numbers)","linkableTitle":"Your comment at Notability (numbers)"}--><h2 id="Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z"><span id="Your_comment_at_Notability_.28numbers.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z"></span>Your comment at Notability (numbers)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Your comment at Notability (numbers)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)","timestamp":"2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"],"text":"Your comment at Notability (numbers)","linkableTitle":"Your comment at Notability (numbers)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"></span>Hi, I've responded to your comment at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(numbers)" title="Wikipedia talk:Notability (numbers)">Wikipedia talk:Notability (numbers)</a>, and I'd appreciate comment (on the section below it as well). Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Fresheneesz" title="User:Fresheneesz">Fresheneesz</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Fresheneesz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fresheneesz-2006-09-12T20:17:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_Notability_(numbers)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"],"text":"Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion","linkableTitle":"Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion"}--><h2 id="Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z"></span>Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion","timestamp":"2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"],"text":"Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion","linkableTitle":"Image:Interrobang-big.png listed for deletion"}--></div></div></div> <div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"></span> An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Interrobang-big.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Interrobang-big.png (page does not exist)">Image:Interrobang-big.png</a>, has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion#Image:Interrobang-big.png" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion">Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion</a>. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Wwagner" title="User:Wwagner">Wwagner</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z","author":"Wwagner","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wwagner-2006-09-14T02:49:00.000Z-Image:Interrobang-big.png_listed_for_deletion"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre"],"text":"Y'en a qu'on du temps \u00e0 perdre","linkableTitle":"Y'en a qu'on du temps \u00e0 perdre"}--><h2 id="Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre" data-mw-thread-id="h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"><span id="Y.27en_a_qu.27on_du_temps_.C3.A0_perdre"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Y'en a qu'on du temps à perdre<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: Y'en a qu'on du temps à perdre"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre"],"text":"Y'en a qu'on du temps \u00e0 perdre","linkableTitle":"Y'en a qu'on du temps \u00e0 perdre"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span>You haven't read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10_List_of_Tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_Paris" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10 List of Tallest buildings and structures in Paris">Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10 List of Tallest buildings and structures in Paris</a> yet. You've missed something. By all means, do list this controversy at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars" title="Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars">Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars</a> as you suggested earlier. It must have now become the "trivialest" argument ever on Wikipedia (or should I say the most serious argument about the trivialest point ever on Wikipedia?). <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","replies":["c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"></span>I see that your French is improving by the day. It's unfortunate that there are so many people on Wikipedia whose only contributions seem to consist in moving commas, changing American English into British English, and arguing over words or names, when there are actually so many articles that need either to be created from scratch or "de-stubbed". But then that needs researching information and painfully crafting decent prose, which is of course a much harder work than moving commas or arguing over words. Personally, I find it more interesting to research information and create new articles or expand stubs, and I rarely engage in comma moving, which I find both boring and petty. The only reason why I'm still taking part in this mediation process is because of the level of insults and offensive insinuations from some people, as well as the narrow-mindedness of some comments. Je me fais l'avocat du pauvre, comme tu vois. Let's see if your French has really improved. Lol. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-17T20:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z"></span>Heh. J'y jeterai un coup d'oeil des mon retour en australie. Mais franchement....bon, ce que j'aimerais faire, c'est traduire quelques-uns des featured articles du wikipedia francais qui n'existent pas dans la version anglaise. C'est dommage que tout ce qui est Paris reste dans cet etat assez bizzare, mais comme tu l'as dit, il y a d'autre travail a faire. Coucou de Vienne, pour savoir...<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-09-22T16:27:00.000Z-Hardouin-2006-09-21T11:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span>You're leaving France for good? It's weird but you're the editor that I felt the most confident working with. In the few instances when we disagreed, we always reached compromise. You're the most reasonable editor I've seen in the Paris articles I must say, and you don't make big fuss like some people. Anyway, I feel embarassed making compliments. It's not in my culture. Plus ThePromenader, who reads all my messages (and often adds comments to them, as you've seen in the past), is gonna say that I'm being a sycophant or something. </p><p>Do you know there has been a major edit war at the <a href="/wiki/La_D%C3%A9fense" title="La Défense">La Défense</a> article? In the end, all the lead of the article was changed and re-written by ThePromenader. Here is the lead before, and the lead now. Forget it's Promenader, forget it's me asking, just look at it impartially. Honestly, which one do you prefer, and do you see language problems or awkwardness somewhere? Are there points that you prefer more in one version or the other? Are there points that are more precise in one version than in the other? I'm just curious. </p><p>Lead before (PS: I didn't write it): </p> <dl><dd><b>La Défense</b> is one of <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a>' major <a href="/wiki/Central_business_district" title="Central business district">business districts</a>, located west of the city proper in the heart of the <i><a href="/wiki/D%C3%A9partement_in_France" class="mw-redirect" title="Département in France">département</a></i> of the <a href="/wiki/Hauts-de-Seine" title="Hauts-de-Seine">Hauts-de-Seine</a>. The district marks the endpoint of the <a href="/wiki/Axe_historique" title="Axe historique">Historical Axis</a>, which commences at the <a href="/wiki/Louvre" title="Louvre">Louvre</a> and crosses the <a href="/wiki/Champs-%C3%89lys%C3%A9es" title="Champs-Élysées">Champs-Élysées</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Arc_de_Triomphe" title="Arc de Triomphe">Arc de Triomphe</a>. The district is spread across three municipalities: <a href="/wiki/Nanterre" title="Nanterre">Nanterre</a>, <a href="/wiki/Courbevoie" title="Courbevoie">Courbevoie</a> and <a href="/wiki/Puteaux" title="Puteaux">Puteaux</a>. La Défense consists mainly of business <a href="/wiki/Highrise" class="mw-redirect" title="Highrise">highrises</a> built along a central esplanade (<i>le Parvis</i>). With 3.5 million m² of offices, it is today the largest district in Europe specifically developped for business. Moreover, La Défense is one of the major financial centers in the world and it wields a considerable clout in the world economy.</dd></dl> <p>Lead now: </p> <dl><dd><b>La Défense</b> is a major <a href="/wiki/Business_district" class="mw-redirect" title="Business district">business district</a> of <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a>, located in the suburbs just to the west of the city. It is centred on an ovular loop of roadway straddling the <a href="/wiki/Hauts-de-Seine" title="Hauts-de-Seine">Hauts-de-Seine</a> <i><a href="/wiki/D%C3%A9partement_in_France" class="mw-redirect" title="Département in France">département</a></i> <a href="/wiki/Commune_in_France" class="mw-redirect" title="Commune in France">municipalities</a> of <a href="/wiki/Nanterre" title="Nanterre">Nanterre</a>, <a href="/wiki/Courbevoie" title="Courbevoie">Courbevoie</a> and <a href="/wiki/Puteaux" title="Puteaux">Puteaux</a>, at the westernmost extremity of Paris' <a href="/wiki/Axe_historique" title="Axe historique">historical axis</a> that, in passing the <a href="/wiki/Champs_%C3%89lys%C3%A9es" class="mw-redirect" title="Champs Élysées">Champs Élysées</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Arc_de_Triomphe" title="Arc de Triomphe">Arc de Triomphe</a>, originates at the <a href="/wiki/Louvre" title="Louvre">Louvre</a> in the Paris city centre.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Centred around a <a href="/wiki/Grande_Arche" title="Grande Arche">Grande Arche</a> and central esplanade ("le Parvis"), this district holds many of the Paris urban area's tallest high-rises: with its 3.5 million m² of office space, <b>La Défense</b> is the largest purpose-built business districts in Europe, and one of the world's major centres of international finance.</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2006-09-23T20:37:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span>Hi, yes I'leaving France "for good", but will be spending 3 days in Paris around the 19th to 22nd of Oct. I'd love to meet up for a drink or something if you like. </p><p>There's no question here, the first version is much better. The second one focuses so much on "objective fact" it fails to inform the reader. You barely have the impression its even connnected to Paris, rather than being the focal endpoint of Paris' most famous street! Overall the new English is very clunky - though honestly the old version was only slightly better. "Ovular loop of roadway straddling..." sounds totally bizarre to me. I would simply say "Oval-shaped road passing though...". As for "this district holds many of the Paris urban area's tallest high-rises" I would have said "almost all of Paris's skyscrapers are found here, with the notable exception of the Tour Montparnasse". </p><p>If I didn't know better I would be convinced that TP was deliberately trying to use obfuscated language. I think in fact he simply can't express himself clearly. Pity in that case that he takes it upon himself to rewrite so much! --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_\u00e0_perdre","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z-Y'en_a_qu'on_du_temps_à_perdre"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z"></span>It's been rewritten since, but by all means have a go at it. I was not in that edit war as the language insinuates - actually I rewrote that at as an end compromise between two edit-warring contributors: one wanted "overly-pointed" fact and the other wanted things to remain vague. If <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> were honest he would have told you that and presented you with the third version too. I didn't instigate the rewriting, and as long as the phrase doesn't say anything that's untrue, I really don't care one way or the other. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2006-09-24T17:36:00.000Z-Stevage-2006-09-24T16:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"],"text":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set 3"}--><h2 id="Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"></span>Vote on Fir0002 FPC set<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Vote on Fir0002 FPC set"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"],"text":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir0002 FPC set 3"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"></span>Hi Stevage,<br/> I was wondering if you could spare the time to have a look at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Sparrows">these</a>. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir0002_FPC_set_3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"></span>Sorry to ask again so soon, but I've got <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Kangroo_and_Joey">another small set</a>, with really minor differences, but differences I can't choose b/w! Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-03T10:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z"></span>Added two edits from people's comments. I'd appreciate if you could make a final choice between <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Kangroo_and_Joey">them</a>. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-10-21T09:51:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-10-10T08:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"],"text":"About Charaxes kahruba","linkableTitle":"About Charaxes kahruba"}--><h2 id="About_Charaxes_kahruba" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z"></span>About Charaxes kahruba<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: About Charaxes kahruba"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba","timestamp":"2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-About_Charaxes_kahruba-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"],"text":"About Charaxes kahruba","linkableTitle":"About Charaxes kahruba"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"></span>Hi Stevage, Sorry, they were placeholders at a very early stage of my wikipedia life. I'll get down to tracking and removing them. Some more of them are around. We got diverted from stub writing to getting the taxonomy right first. I'm on Lycaenids now. Will get to Nymphalids next. Thanks for the reminder. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:AshLin" title="User:AshLin">AshLin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z","author":"AshLin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AshLin-2006-10-26T12:54:00.000Z-About_Charaxes_kahruba"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"],"text":"Sparrow on FPC","linkableTitle":"Sparrow on FPC"}--><h2 id="Sparrow_on_FPC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z"></span>Sparrow on FPC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: Sparrow on FPC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC","timestamp":"2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sparrow_on_FPC-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"],"text":"Sparrow on FPC","linkableTitle":"Sparrow on FPC"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> I've put up version 2 of the sparrow set I asked you about before (on <a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates" title="User:Fir0002/FPCandidates">User:Fir0002/FPCandidates</a>) and it's currently got the majority by one vote. <br/> Now I want to make clear that you are of course under no obligation to go vote (and I certainly don't want it to seem like "hey come and support this pic") but just for the sake of determining consensus (and since you liked it when I put it up on my FPC subpage), I was wondering if you could vote here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/House_Sparrow2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/House Sparrow2">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/House Sparrow2</a>? Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-11-02T06:33:00.000Z-Sparrow_on_FPC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Espionnage\"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-\"Espionnage\""],"text":"\"Espionnage\"","linkableTitle":"\"Espionnage\""}--><h2 id=""Espionnage"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Espionnage"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z"><span id=".22Espionnage.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Espionnage"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z"></span>"Espionnage"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Espionnage"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: "Espionnage""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Espionnage\"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-\"Espionnage\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-\"Espionnage\"","timestamp":"2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Espionnage\"-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-\"Espionnage\""],"text":"\"Espionnage\"","linkableTitle":"\"Espionnage\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-"Espionnage""></span>I answered your query on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sabotage" title="Talk:Sabotage">talk:Sabotage</a> page. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:138.217.219.88&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:138.217.219.88 (page does not exist)">138.217.219.88</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-"Espionnage"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-"Espionnage""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z","author":"138.217.219.88","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-\"Espionnage\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-138.217.219.88-2006-11-13T10:12:00.000Z-"Espionnage""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Robert_M._Pagan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Robert_M._Pagan"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Robert_M._Pagan"></span>Robert M. Pagan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Robert_M._Pagan"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Robert M. Pagan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Robert_M._Pagan","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Dear Stevage, Before you refer to an article as a "hoax", you should get your information straight. The article as written is in fact true. It was written by my daughter, who in her zeal and youth, combined my side of the story with the wording on the citation, to make a factual article. She is a child, trying to impress her father. As far as you not being able to find anything to substantiate the article, as she said, many things at that time were, and still are classified. Do you have a security clearance high enough to access government information? I can show you the medal, the citation, and even a photograph of the presentation ceremony, if you like. The fact is, she put me on the list of notable recipients because she thought I should be on it. There was no malice or hoax intended. I saw the list of notable recipients, and I agree that I should not be on it. Feel free to remove my name and the article from Wikipedia if you like. But keep in mind, that just because you couldn't find something, doesn't mean it's not true. There are thousands of veterans who are not given the slightest bit of recognition for their sacrifices. She just thought she could give me a little bit of praise. But to be honest, I don't care for or require any slap on the back. Like everyone else over there, I just did my job. </p> <pre> Robert M. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2006-11-21T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2006-11-21T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-21T06:50:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2006-11-21T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2006-11-21T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_20th."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"],"text":"DYK","linkableTitle":"DYK 5"}--><h2 id="DYK_5" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5","timestamp":"2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_5-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"],"text":"DYK","linkableTitle":"DYK 5"}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"></span><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/November_21" title="November 21">November 21</a>, <a href="/wiki/2006" title="2006">2006</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Phare_de_la_vieille" class="mw-redirect" title="Phare de la vieille">Phare de la vieille</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Thanks for taking the painstaking effort in translation mate. You've earnt top billing for this update.<b><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Blnguyen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Blnguyen (page does not exist)">Blnguyen</a></b> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blnguyen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Blnguyen (page does not exist)">bananabucket</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Blnguyen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blnguyen-2006-11-21T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_5"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"],"text":"WikiProject France","linkableTitle":"WikiProject France"}--><h2 id="WikiProject_France" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: WikiProject France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France","timestamp":"2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_France-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"],"text":"WikiProject France","linkableTitle":"WikiProject France"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"></span>A proposal has been made for the above WikiProject at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France</a>. Would you be interested in contributing to it? <a href="/wiki/User:SlaveToTheWage" title="User:SlaveToTheWage">STTW</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SlaveToTheWage" title="User talk:SlaveToTheWage"><span style="color:green;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z","author":"SlaveToTheWage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France","replies":[],"displayName":"STTW"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SlaveToTheWage-2006-11-23T20:42:00.000Z-WikiProject_France"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on Fir FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir FPC set"}--><h2 id="Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Vote on Fir FPC set<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Vote on Fir FPC set"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set","timestamp":"2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on Fir FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on Fir FPC set"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> I was wondering if you could vote <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#90_Mile_beach">here</a>? Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-11-26T21:52:00.000Z-Vote_on_Fir_FPC_set"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z-Fractals"],"text":"Fractals","linkableTitle":"Fractals"}--><h2 id="Fractals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z"></span>Fractals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Fractals"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z-Fractals"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z-Fractals","timestamp":"2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fractals-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z-Fractals"],"text":"Fractals","linkableTitle":"Fractals"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BernardH-2006-11-28T15:43:00.000Z-Fractals"></span>Hi Stevage. Following your comment on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Mandelbrotset" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mandelbrotset">Mandelbrot FPC</a>, I would like to ask if you had something more specific in mind, concerning a kind of rendering or color choice that would be better? I am sure that it is possible to make many more attractive renderings, but I am afraid it would hurt "enc". I would like to see more quality image fractals on Wikipedia, and am thinking of uploading a few of mines. Apart from flooding <a href="/wiki/Fractal_art" title="Fractal art">Fractal art</a>, perhaps an article like <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fractal_rendering_methods&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fractal rendering methods (page does not exist)">Fractal rendering methods</a> could be a good place to add examples of more elaborate renderings. 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I reverted the change from cocktail-stub to drink-stub on <a href="/wiki/Amaro_(drink)" class="mw-redirect" title="Amaro (drink)">Amaro (drink)</a>. I agree with you that Amaro is an alcoholic drink, not a cocktail (not that it can't be used in a cocktail), and it really should be flagged with a drink-stub instead of a cocktail one. However, since the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cocktail&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktail (page does not exist)">Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktail</a> is actively seeking and improving stubs and poor articles (tagged with cocktail-expand), it seems to me that it would be best to leave it with the Cocktail tag for now. After March 1st when our <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cocktail&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktail (page does not exist)">Cleanup Project</a> is finished, we can switch it back along with other spririts that have been Cocktail-tagged. Either way, they show up in the main stubs page, so people can and will find them. It just helps the Project memembers locate ones now while we are actively engaged in cleanup. If you feel it must be reverted back to drink-stub immediatel, I will not get into an edit war. I am just trying to give the article as much help as possible to avoid having it deleted just for being a stub. If you are interested, it would be great having your help in the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cocktail&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktail (page does not exist)">Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktail</a>. Have a good day! --<a href="/wiki/User:Willscrlt" title="User:Willscrlt">Willscrlt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Willscrlt-2006-12-14T02:09:00.000Z-Cocktail_Stubs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Willscrlt-2006-12-14T02:09:00.000Z-Cocktail_Stubs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-14T02:09:00.000Z","author":"Willscrlt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Willscrlt-2006-12-14T02:09:00.000Z-Cocktail_Stubs","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Willscrlt-2006-12-14T02:09:00.000Z-Cocktail_Stubs"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."],"text":"Signpost updated for December 18th.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for December 18th."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_December_18th." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 18th.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for December 18th."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.","timestamp":"2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."],"text":"Signpost updated for December 18th.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for December 18th."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2006-12-19T06:27:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_18th."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"],"text":"Claudio Gonzalez","linkableTitle":"Claudio Gonzalez"}--><h2 id="Claudio_Gonzalez" data-mw-thread-id="h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z"></span>Claudio Gonzalez<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Claudio Gonzalez"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez","timestamp":"2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Claudio_Gonzalez-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"],"text":"Claudio Gonzalez","linkableTitle":"Claudio Gonzalez"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"></span>Hi Stevage. I've tagged <a href="/w/index.php?title=Claudio_Gonzalez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Claudio Gonzalez (page does not exist)">Claudio Gonzalez</a>, which you created back in August 2006, with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-bio" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Db-bio">db-bio</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, because there's no assertion of notability. Oh, and for the record, his country is <a href="/wiki/Chile" title="Chile">Chile</a> with an e, not Chili! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Picaroon9288&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Picaroon9288 (page does not exist)">Picaroon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z","author":"Picaroon9288","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T06:09:00.000Z-Claudio_Gonzalez"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."],"text":"Signpost updated for December 26th.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for December 26th."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_December_26th." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for December 26th.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for December 26th."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.","timestamp":"2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."],"text":"Signpost updated for December 26th.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for December 26th."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2006-12-27T07:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_December_26th."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set"}--><h2 id="Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span>Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on a Fir0002 FPC set"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span>Hi Stevage!<br/> Hope you can drop by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Wolf_Spider">here</a> and leave your comments! Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set","replies":["c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z-Vote_on_a_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span>Sorry to ask again so soon, but could you please add your comments <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Hoverflies">here</a>? Thanks a lot --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2006-12-31T03:10:00.000Z-Fir0002-2006-12-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 2nd, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 2nd, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 2nd, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for January 2nd, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 2nd, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 2nd, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-01-03T07:42:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_2nd,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"],"text":"WikiProject Cocktails","linkableTitle":"WikiProject Cocktails"}--><h2 id="WikiProject_Cocktails" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Cocktails<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: WikiProject Cocktails"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails","timestamp":"2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Cocktails-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"],"text":"WikiProject Cocktails","linkableTitle":"WikiProject Cocktails"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"></span>Hello. As a person interested in cocktails and/or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cocktails" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktails">WikiProject Cocktails</a>, you may be interested to know that a name change is being considered for the WikiProject from <b>Cocktails</b> to <b>Mixed Drinks</b>. Please add your opinions to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cocktails#Proposed_WikiProject_Name_Change" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cocktails">the discussion and vote</a>. Also, check out the recent changes to the WikiProject area. Consider becoming an <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cocktails/Participants&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cocktails/Participants (page does not exist)">active Participant</a>. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Willscrlt" title="User:Willscrlt">Willscrlt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z","author":"Willscrlt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Willscrlt-2007-01-08T09:07:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cocktails"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 8th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 8th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_January_8th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 8th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for January 8th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 8th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 8th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-01-09T07:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_8th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set"}--><h2 id="Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z"></span>Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set","timestamp":"2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"],"text":"Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set","linkableTitle":"Vote on peacock Fir0002 FPC set"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span>Hi Steve,<br/> Hope you don't mind me asking, but could you please take a look at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Peacocks">these</a>? Thanks a lot --<a href="/wiki/User:Fir0002" title="User:Fir0002">Fir0002</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z","author":"Fir0002","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fir0002-2007-01-12T05:48:00.000Z-Vote_on_peacock_Fir0002_FPC_set"></span> </p> <div 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Frodet-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Frodet-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)"],"text":"Template:References-small\u00a0(edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)","linkableTitle":"Template:References-small (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frodet-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)"></span>Just to let you know that I have nominated the template you created, <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:References-small&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:References-small (page does not exist)">Template:References-small</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:References-small&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:References-small&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:References-small (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:References-small&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:References-small">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:References-small&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Template%3AReferences-small">logs</a>)</span></span>, for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_January_13#Template:References-small" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 January 13">deletion</a> since it is superseded by <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Reflist" title="Template:Reflist">Reflist</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Frodet" title="User:Frodet">Frodet</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Frodet-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frodet-2007-01-13T23:38:00.000Z-Template:References-small_(edit_|_talk_|_history_|_links_|_watch_|_logs)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-01-16T06:10:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-16T06:10:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-16T06:10:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-16T06:10:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_15th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bssc81-2007-01-16T19:24:00.000Z-I_Heart_Huckabees"></span>There is a new debate on the name change at <a href="/wiki/Talk:I_%E2%99%A5_Huckabees" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:I ♥ Huckabees">Talk:I ♥ Huckabees</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bssc81" title="User:Bssc81">Bssc81</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Bssc81-2007-01-16T19:24:00.000Z-I_Heart_Huckabees" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bssc81-2007-01-16T19:24:00.000Z-I_Heart_Huckabees"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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vs. French spelling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-English_vs._French_spelling-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: English vs. French spelling"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-English_vs._French_spelling-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-English_vs._French_spelling-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling"],"text":"English vs. French spelling","linkableTitle":"English vs. French spelling"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling"></span>Because of your past work on the Wikiprojects for French "régions", "départements" or "communes", I thought you might be interested in contributing to the current discussion over French vs. English spelling of those very words taking place at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France#Anglicisation" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject France">Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France#Anglicisation</a>. Cheers. --<a href="/wiki/User:NYArtsnWords" title="User:NYArtsnWords">NYArtsnWords</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","author":"NYArtsnWords","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z-English_vs._French_spelling"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z"></span>Hello Stevage - there's been an RfC opened on the above - could we have a word there from you too? Thanks if you can. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-01-28T17:17:00.000Z-NYArtsnWords-2007-01-18T23:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 22nd, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 22nd, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for January 22nd, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for January 22nd, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for January 22nd, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for January 22nd, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-01-23T06:48:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_January_22nd,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"],"text":"Category deletion in nordic skiing","linkableTitle":"Category deletion in nordic skiing"}--><h2 id="Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"></span>Category deletion in nordic skiing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: Category deletion in nordic skiing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"],"text":"Category deletion in nordic skiing","linkableTitle":"Category deletion in nordic skiing"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"></span>I noticed that you have been deleting <a href="/wiki/Category:Nordic_skiing" title="Category:Nordic skiing">Category:Nordic skiing</a> from the individual championships of the <a href="/wiki/FIS_Nordic_World_Ski_Championships" title="FIS Nordic World Ski Championships">FIS Nordic World Ski Championships</a>. May I ask why? I think this category should be in the ones that are already in there (1925-95) and the ones that you have removed (1980, 1997-2011) should be returned. Can you please respond on this. I would greatly appreciate it. <a href="/wiki/User:Miller17CU94" title="User:Miller17CU94">Chris</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","author":"Miller17CU94","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Chris"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z-Category_deletion_in_nordic_skiing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"></span>I agree with your category, but I do need to remind you that <a href="/wiki/Nordic_skiing" title="Nordic skiing">Nordic skiing</a> consists of <a href="/wiki/Cross_country_skiing" class="mw-redirect" title="Cross country skiing">cross country skiing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ski_jumping" title="Ski jumping">ski jumping</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Nordic_combined" title="Nordic combined">nordic combined</a>. The <a href="/wiki/FIS_Nordic_World_Ski_Championships" title="FIS Nordic World Ski Championships">FIS Nordic World Ski Championships</a> consists of events for all three disciplines. Unless you want to put the championships on equal footings as the disciplines. It is just a thought. <a href="/wiki/User:Miller17CU94" title="User:Miller17CU94">Chris</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Miller17CU94","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Chris"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T02:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z"></span>Fair enough. I agree with your suggestion. I look forward to working with on future endeavours. <a href="/wiki/User:Miller17CU94" title="User:Miller17CU94">Chris</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z","author":"Miller17CU94","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Chris"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T15:12:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2007-01-26T14:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"],"text":"Idigenous Australians","linkableTitle":"Idigenous Australians"}--><h2 id="Idigenous_Australians" data-mw-thread-id="h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"></span>Idigenous Australians<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: Idigenous Australians"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idigenous_Australians-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"],"text":"Idigenous Australians","linkableTitle":"Idigenous Australians"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"></span>Hi Stevage. With regard to your edit: While the percentile is significant, it is not one the few facts that will inform the reader about this topic. The populations are to the right of the lead article and this leads the reader to census data. What do you think? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fred.e" title="User talk:Fred.e">Fred</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","author":"Fred.e","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z-Idigenous_Australians"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"></span>I think that infoboxes should not substitute for text in the article. I didn't read the infobox, and I suspect many people don't. By all means have it - but in addition to the text. And as for a key fact, well, when I've travelled overseas, it's one of the first questions people ask me about Australia - how many aboriginal people are there (strangely enough). I know it doesn't necessarily have a simple straightforward answer, but it's definitely important enough to address in the first paragraph. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-27T04:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z"></span>We <i>definitely</i> have to find a consensus. I don't know how many people you talked to, but it is probably not a reference we can use. I will put this all on the talk page, if ok with you? Regards, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fred.e" title="User talk:Fred.e">Fred</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z","author":"Fred.e","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-01-28T02:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z"></span>Sure. Don't get me wrong, I don't know anything about the issue: I'm just saying that the first paragraph should answer the question "How many Australians are of indigenous descent?" I don't know if the answer is 2.4% or not. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-01-30T03:17:00.000Z-Fred.e-2007-01-28T14:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z-DYK_6"],"text":"DYK","linkableTitle":"DYK 6"}--><h2 id="DYK_6" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z-DYK_6"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z-DYK_6","timestamp":"2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_6-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z-DYK_6"],"text":"DYK","linkableTitle":"DYK 6"}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yomangani-2007-01-30T10:04:00.000Z-DYK_6"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/30_January" class="mw-redirect" title="30 January">30 January</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Female_urination_device" title="Female urination device">Female urination device</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-02-06T05:30:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-02-06T05:30:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-06T05:30:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-02-06T05:30:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-02-06T05:30:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_5th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"],"text":"Victoria","linkableTitle":"Victoria"}--><h2 id="Victoria" data-mw-thread-id="h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z"></span>Victoria<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: Victoria"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria","timestamp":"2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Victoria-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"],"text":"Victoria","linkableTitle":"Victoria"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"></span>I intended to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria&diff=106475900&oldid=104422856">revert this</a> - I'm going to a) blame my tool b) not use it that way in the future <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josh_Parris" title="User talk:Josh Parris">Josh Parris</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z","author":"Josh Parris","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josh_Parris-2007-02-08T05:25:00.000Z-Victoria"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"],"text":"f-number","linkableTitle":"f-number"}--><h2 id="f-number" data-mw-thread-id="h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/F-number" title="F-number">f-number</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: f-number"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number","timestamp":"2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-f-number-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"],"text":"f-number","linkableTitle":"f-number"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F-number&oldid=55724782">F-number&oldid=55724782</a> you write </p> <dl><dd>sharpness is best at medium f-numbers is that the sharpness at high f-number is constrained by <a href="/wiki/Diffraction" title="Diffraction">diffraction</a>, whereas at low f-numbers limitations of the lens design known as <a href="/wiki/Aberration_in_optical_systems" class="mw-redirect" title="Aberration in optical systems">aberrations</a> will dominate</dd></dl> <p>Do you have a reference for the diffraction part? As I understand it, diffraction effects are only significant when the pupil size approaches the wavelength. <a href="/wiki/User:TomViza" title="User:TomViza">TomViza</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z","author":"TomViza","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomViza-2007-02-11T23:09:00.000Z-f-number"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"],"text":"Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms","linkableTitle":"Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms"}--><h2 id="Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z"><span id="Requests_for_arbitration.23Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z"></span>Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms","timestamp":"2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"],"text":"Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms","linkableTitle":"Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NYArtsnWords-2007-02-12T23:01:00.000Z-Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms"></span>I have initiated a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Anglicisation_of_French_administrative_terms" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration">Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Anglicisation of French administrative terms</a>. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-02-13T05:37:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-02-13T05:37:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-13T05:37:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-02-13T05:37:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-02-13T05:37:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_12th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"],"text":"Ned Kelly","linkableTitle":"Ned Kelly"}--><h2 id="Ned_Kelly" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z"></span>Ned Kelly<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=93" title="Edit section: Ned Kelly"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ned_Kelly-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"],"text":"Ned Kelly","linkableTitle":"Ned Kelly"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span>That a criminal who maintained a 2 year spree of murder and robbery can be <i>one of the most important figures</i> is certainly POV. To give but one example, <a href="/wiki/Redmond_Barry" title="Redmond Barry">Redmond Barry</a>, the judge who sentenced him to hang, is far more important, as the founder of institutions such as Melbourne University and the State Library. What about John Batman, John Fawkner, Charles LaTrobe, Peter Lawler, Alfred Deakin, to just give a handful of examples. To say that Ned Kelly is as "important" as any of these beggers belief. </p><p>He is certainly a well-known folk hero, and the article states that. And of course crime and criminals are interesting to a lot of people, so they are important to people who like to read crime histories. But that does not make them "important" in the broad sense of the word. </p><p>But of course the above is my POV. More importantly you did not source your statement. If you think it should be included please find a relevent, reputable source that supports the statement, and reference it in the article. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Johnson" title="User:Michael Johnson">Michael Johnson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z","author":"Michael Johnson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T01:46:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span>Guys can I assist with the POV. Ned Kelly did appear in an early book, '100 Great Lives' (Australian edition). Also Supt Hare who was one of his police pursuers described him as 'the greatest man in the world' cited in J.J. Kenneally, "The inner history of the Kelly Gang" (1929) p. 4. <a href="/wiki/User:Tonyob" title="User:Tonyob">Tonyob</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z","author":"Tonyob","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z"></span>Kelly is *more* important than those figures in the sense that he is well known. Your average Autsralian has not heard of all of the above examples. But even primary school kids learn about Ned Kelly. To ignore his place in history (after Captain Cook, who in pre-20th century Australian history is more well known?) in the intro is what "beggars belief". If you prefer "well known", "renowned" or "famous" to "important", then you should go ahead and change the wording. But reverting my entire edit (including the fact that he was hanged at Melbourne Gaol) for being "pov" is blatantly rude, and poor wiki etiquette. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T03:56:00.000Z-Tonyob-2007-02-15T03:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span>"Important" means have some effect on the future. <a href="/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith" title="Anna Nicole Smith">Anna Nicole Smith</a> is no doubt better known in many quarters than <a href="/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice" title="Condoleezza Rice">Condoleezza Rice</a>. No doubt now many thousands of words will be written about Anna Nicole Smith, but thst does not make her in any way important. Rice of course is the third most powerful person in the world, which makes her very important. "Well known" does describe it, but the paragraph already mentions that he is Australia's most famous bushranger, and s folk hero to many, so anything more sounds to me like a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PEACOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PEACOCK">peacock term</a>. As for your mention of popular culture and being hanged in the Melbourne Gaol, both are covered in detail later in the article, but if you wish to add them to the introduction, I would have no objection. I'm sorry you feel I was being rude in reverting your edit on POV grounds, I could also have written that it was irrelevent and unsourced, if that assists you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Johnson" title="User:Michael Johnson">Michael Johnson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Michael Johnson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly","replies":["c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z-Ned_Kelly"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z"></span>BTW if you want to reply, please do on my talk page. It is only by accident that I came back here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Johnson" title="User:Michael Johnson">Michael Johnson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z","author":"Michael Johnson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z"></span>Irrelevant, heh. Pointing out that Kelly is one of the most famous *people* (not just bushrangers) in Australia's history is "irrelevant". And that his life ended by hanging, irrelevant? What on earth do you mean? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-02-15T06:19:00.000Z-Michael_Johnson-2007-02-15T04:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for February 19th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for February 19th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_February_19th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 19th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=94" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for February 19th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007.-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for February 19th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for February 19th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-02-20T07:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_February_19th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Raven4x4x" title="User:Raven4x4x">Raven4x4x</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Raven4x4x-2007-02-21T08:35:00.000Z-Featured_Picture" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raven4x4x-2007-02-21T08:35:00.000Z-Featured_Picture"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007.-2007-02-27T08:37:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_February_26th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007.-2007-02-27T08:37:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for February 26th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_February_26th,_2007.-2007-02-27T08:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=96" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for February 26th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span 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title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a> : <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POST">WP:POST</a></small> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><small>You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Tools/Spamlist" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist"><i>Signpost</i> spamlist</a>. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-03-06T06:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-03-06T06:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-06T06:43:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-03-06T06:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-03-06T06:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_5th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also"],"text":"See also","linkableTitle":"See also"}--><h2 id="See_also" data-mw-thread-id="h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z"></span>See also<span data-mw-comment-end="h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=98" title="Edit section: See also"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also","timestamp":"2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-See_also-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also"],"text":"See also","linkableTitle":"See also"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also"></span>Well, I take "see also" to mean "see <b>also</b>". <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout#See_also" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Guide to layout">Wikipedia:Guide to layout#See also</a>: </p> <dl><dd>"The 'See also' section provides an additional <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lists" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:Lists">list</a> of internal links to other articles in the Wikipedia that are related to this one as a navigational aid, and <b>it should ideally not repeat links already present in the article.</b>" (emphasis in original). --<a href="/wiki/User:Mel_Etitis" title="User:Mel Etitis">Mel Etitis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mel_Etitis" title="User talk:Mel Etitis"><span style="color:green;">Talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Mel_Etitis-2007-03-11T14:10:00.000Z-See_also" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-URLs-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-URLs-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"></span>URLs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-URLs-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: URLs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-URLs-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-URLs-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs"],"text":"URLs","linkableTitle":"URLs"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs"></span>Hi Stevage, when we only have a URL, it's best just to leave it as an embedded link (in square brackets) in the text, which is allowed by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE">WP:CITE</a>. Otherwise, the reader has to click twice but gets no additional information, whereas clicking on a footnote gives the citation. <a href="/wiki/User:SlimVirgin" title="User:SlimVirgin">SlimVirgin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SlimVirgin" title="User talk:SlimVirgin"><sup style="color:Purple;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","author":"SlimVirgin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z-URLs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"></span>Oh, yeah. Good point. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-03-11T16:22:00.000Z-SlimVirgin-2007-03-11T15:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_March_12th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 12th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-03-13T05:47:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_12th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history","c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"],"text":"Enhance history","linkableTitle":"Enhance history"}--><h2 id="Enhance_history" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z"></span>Enhance history<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: Enhance history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history","c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history","timestamp":"2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Enhance_history-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history","c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"],"text":"Enhance history","linkableTitle":"Enhance history"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history"></span>Im trying to install your js but Im having no luck. Could you explain? Ive also made a comment at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/EnhanceHistory.user.js" title="User talk:Stevage/EnhanceHistory.user.js">User talk:Stevage/EnhanceHistory.user.js</a>. Regards, -<a href="/wiki/User:Stevertigo" title="User:Stevertigo">Ste</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevertigo" title="User talk:Stevertigo">vertigo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z","author":"Stevertigo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history","replies":[],"displayName":"Ste"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-15T02:27:00.000Z-Enhance_history"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"></span>I installed it, but it doesnt seem to be running. Any manual? -<a href="/wiki/User:Stevertigo" title="User:Stevertigo">Ste</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevertigo" title="User talk:Stevertigo">vertigo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z","author":"Stevertigo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history","replies":[],"displayName":"Ste"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevertigo-2007-03-21T02:08:00.000Z-Enhance_history"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"],"text":"Brittany","linkableTitle":"Brittany"}--><h2 id="Brittany" data-mw-thread-id="h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z"></span>Brittany<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Brittany"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany","timestamp":"2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Brittany-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"],"text":"Brittany","linkableTitle":"Brittany"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"></span>Sorry about that. I was in a rush. Thanks for pointing it out though.--<a href="/wiki/User:Flyingcheese" title="User:Flyingcheese">Ryan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flyingcheese" title="User talk:Flyingcheese">¾</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Flyingcheese","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany","replies":[],"displayName":"Ryan"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flyingcheese-2007-03-20T19:59:00.000Z-Brittany"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_March_20th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for March 20th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007.-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-03-21T07:33:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_March_20th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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A Featured Picture Candidate you commented on, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Killer_whale_mother_and_calf" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Killer whale mother and calf">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Killer whale mother and calf</a>, is now in the section for "Older nominations requiring additional input from voters." Contributors have tried to improve it after you commented, and your opinion is welcome as to which, if any, of the available versions deserves promotion. I am sending this message to everyone who participated in the FPC. 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An automated process has found and removed a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a> image used in your userspace. The image (<a href="/wiki/File:1915_Dance_by_Rodchenko.jpg" title="File:1915 Dance by Rodchenko.jpg">Image:1915 Dance by Rodchenko.jpg</a>) was found at the following location: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive1" title="User talk:Stevage/archive1">User talk:Stevage/archive1</a>. This image was removed per criterion number 9 of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">non-free content policy</a>. The image was replaced with <a href="/wiki/File:Example.jpg" title="File:Example.jpg">Image:Example.jpg</a>, so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. 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I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. <a href="/wiki/User:Jayden54Bot" title="User:Jayden54Bot">Jayden54Bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Jayden54Bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields","replies":["c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Invincible_Snowfields"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z"></span>I agree that wikipedia would be served with a complete list of all ski resorts in New Zealand, but you should only have complete articles on the notable ones. The ones that are not notable can be on the Ski Resorts of New Zealand page with a description of that resort and only have links to the notable ones' articles. The article for Invincible Snowfields can easily fit into a table of some kind for the list page.</dd> <dd>You have a good point with the private ski resorts. Your reasoning makes sense, 'private' doesn't mean much. But I still consider this a non-notable business that should be up for a merge and redirect. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:C5mjohn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:C5mjohn (page does not exist)">C5mjohn</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z","author":"C5mjohn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C5mjohn-2007-05-11T02:25:00.000Z-Jayden54Bot-2007-05-10T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"],"text":"Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)","linkableTitle":"Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)"}--><h2 id="Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z"><span id="Orphaned_fair_use_image_.28Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=114" title="Edit section: Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)","timestamp":"2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"],"text":"Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)","linkableTitle":"Orphaned fair use image (Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"></span>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Coca cola blak French can.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Coca cola blak French can.jpg</a></b>. 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You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Stevage/archive2" title="Special:Contributions/Stevage/archive2">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any <b>articles</b> will be deleted after seven days, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:BetacommandBot" title="User:BetacommandBot">BetacommandBot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z","author":"BetacommandBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BetacommandBot-2007-05-11T04:30:00.000Z-Orphaned_fair_use_image_(Image:Coca_cola_blak_French_can.jpg)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"],"text":"Re: Fixing typos in French","linkableTitle":"Re: Fixing typos in French"}--><h2 id="Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z"></span>Re: Fixing typos in French<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=115" title="Edit section: Re: Fixing typos in French"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French","timestamp":"2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"],"text":"Re: Fixing typos in French","linkableTitle":"Re: Fixing typos in French"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"></span>My apologies for that mistake and thanks for letting me know. I've checked my contributions and that 'fix' was the only incorrect one. I accept responsibility for incorrectly 'fixing' foreign-language text, but my point was just that in such cases there's an easy way to make sure it won't be 'fixed' again by the use of foreign-language tags, and this improves the quality of the article formatting too. Ideally all foreign-language text would be tagged, but then ideally there would be no spelling errors for me to correct either! Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Rjwilmsi" title="User:Rjwilmsi">Rjwilmsi</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z","author":"Rjwilmsi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rjwilmsi-2007-05-14T06:51:00.000Z-Re:_Fixing_typos_in_French"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_May_14th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 14th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=116" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-05-16T03:34:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_14th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"],"text":"Porters Ski Area","linkableTitle":"Porters Ski Area"}--><h2 id="Porters_Ski_Area" data-mw-thread-id="h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Porters_Ski_Area" title="Porters Ski Area">Porters Ski Area</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=117" title="Edit section: Porters Ski Area"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Porters_Ski_Area-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"],"text":"Porters Ski Area","linkableTitle":"Porters Ski Area"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"></span>Heya Stevage </p><p>I see its finally been sold - do you have any news about who it was sold to (Mt Hutt was interested I thought) or what the plans are for it? It has an interesting place in the market - family and groups oreintated and close to Christchurch. Is this going to change/ expand? I visited there last year and thought it was laking on terrain a bit (and snow quality) but its interesting to see were it goes. :: <a href="/wiki/User:Maelgwn" title="User:Maelgwn">maelgwn</a> :: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maelgwn" title="User talk:Maelgwn">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","author":"Maelgwn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z-Porters_Ski_Area"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"></span>Hi Maelgwn. No, I have no idea, I just noticed today when I went to check what the official name was and found it had all changed. You're right, I do remember reading speculation that a rival company would buy it. I've never visited any of these places, but I'm going there in July, and am (after all this extensive research :)) planning to visit Mt Hutt, Porters, Broken River and Craigieburn Valley. Well, subject to personal whim of course...<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-17T07:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z"></span>I'd give Mt Hutt a <strike>visit</strike> miss - tho ive never been there it seems to be overcommercialised and crowded. Craigieburn is my favorite - best terrain and best atmosphere. The YHA is Springfield is excellent as well - the man who runs it is a bit grumpy at times but is useful but his wife cooks amazing Japanese food. Be interesting to see what Porters is like - when i was there it was closed for 2 days in a row due to massive dumping on the first day and clearing on the second but by the time we got back up there all the snow had blown a way.:: <a href="/wiki/User:Maelgwn" title="User:Maelgwn">maelgwn</a> :: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maelgwn" title="User talk:Maelgwn">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z","author":"Maelgwn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-05-17T14:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I understand what you mean. We're all booked now though :) The main reason we're doing Mt Hutt is we're a fairly large group and some of the people have never been to a commercial ski resort before. So we're doing 2 days at Mt Hutt then 5 days of club fields. And it's the only time we'll be seeing real chairlifts :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-05-19T04:49:00.000Z-Maelgwn-2007-05-18T05:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc"],"text":"Re Template:\u00b7\/doc","linkableTitle":"Re Template:\u00b7\/doc"}--><h2 id="Re_Template:·/doc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re_Template:·/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z"><span id="Re_Template:.C2.B7.2Fdoc"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re_Template:·/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Re <a href="/wiki/Template:%C2%B7/doc" title="Template:·/doc">Template:·/doc</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re_Template:·/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=118" title="Edit section: Re Template:·/doc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc","timestamp":"2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc"],"text":"Re Template:\u00b7\/doc","linkableTitle":"Re Template:\u00b7\/doc"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:·/doc"></span>Hi Stevage, </p> <dl><dd><i><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3A%C2%B7%2Fdoc&diff=131725687&oldid=131725317">(add small bold middot to reference (the supposed justification for using bullet instead, for small fonts - I can't see a difference))</a></i></dd></dl> <p>Hopefully <b>·</b> the <b>·</b> difference <b>·</b> is <b>·</b> <small>apparent <b>·</b> in <b>·</b> this <b>·</b> sentence</small> when <b>·</b> displayed <b>·</b> <small>on • your • screen/s!</small><br/>(The separators within "apparent ... sentence" should look/print very insubstantial/ly.) Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David Kernow</a> <span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:·/doc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:·/doc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z","author":"David Kernow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:\u00b7\/doc","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2007-05-19T03:54:00.000Z-Re_Template:·/doc"></span><br/> PS Thanks for the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Middot" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Middot">middot</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> redirect – good idea! </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_May_21st.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 21st, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-05-22T05:43:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_21st,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"],"text":"PDP","linkableTitle":"PDP"}--><h2 id="PDP" data-mw-thread-id="h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z"></span>PDP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=120" title="Edit section: PDP"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP","timestamp":"2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-PDP-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"],"text":"PDP","linkableTitle":"PDP"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"></span>Sorry, I messed up. Thanks for pointing that out.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ageo020" title="User:Ageo020"><span style="color:#2A52BE"><b>Agεθ020</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ageo020" title="User talk:Ageo020"><span style="color:#E49B0F"><b>ΔT</b></span></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ageo020" title="Special:Contributions/Ageo020"><span style="color:#E52B50"><b>ФC</b></span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z","author":"Ageo020","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP","replies":[],"displayName":"Ag\u03b5\u03b8020"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ageo020-2007-05-29T03:08:00.000Z-PDP"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_May_28th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for May 28th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=121" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-05-29T06:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_May_28th,_2007."></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"],"text":"Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=122" title="Edit section: Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?","timestamp":"2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"],"text":"Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia Study: would you like to participate?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"></span>Hi Stevage, </p><p>I'm an Australian researcher from the University of Sydney currently writing my thesis on collaborative online communities and Wikipedia is my case study. As such I am looking to interview Wikipedians for my research. </p><p>As someone involved extensively in Wikipedia, i was wondering if you'd be interested in being interviewed (via email) for my research? I notice that you've been involved for a while so it certainly sounds like you'd have interesting observations and experiences! </p><p>The interview can be done anytime between now and july, via email, and anonymity is ensured by the University's ethics standards. </p><p>I would love to know if you're interested, and would love to interview you if you have the time. Jimmy Wales is participating as well, so hopefully the project will be interesting. Please let me know on my talk page if you think you'd like to participate. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Tamsinjane" title="User:Tamsinjane">tamsin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z","author":"Tamsinjane","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?","replies":[],"displayName":"tamsin"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamsinjane-2007-06-04T02:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study:_would_you_like_to_participate?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"],"text":"Please don't re-insert references","linkableTitle":"Please don't re-insert references"}--><h2 id="Please_don't_re-insert_references" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z"><span id="Please_don.27t_re-insert_references"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Please don't re-insert references<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=123" title="Edit section: Please don't re-insert references"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references","timestamp":"2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_don't_re-insert_references-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"],"text":"Please don't re-insert references","linkableTitle":"Please don't re-insert references"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"></span>The references to the meme were removed (indeed the article deleted) per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a>. That deletion was endorsed by consensus at DRV (check the closing statement) for details.--<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doc_glasgow" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Doc glasgow">Doc</a><sup>g</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Doc glasgow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doc_glasgow-2007-06-04T23:51:00.000Z-Please_don't_re-insert_references"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_June_4th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 4th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=124" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007.-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-06-05T08:04:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_4th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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well done!--<a href="/wiki/User:Melburnian" title="User:Melburnian">Melburnian</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Melburnian-2007-06-22T07:36:00.000Z-Scenic_Railway" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Melburnian-2007-06-22T07:36:00.000Z-Scenic_Railway"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-22T07:36:00.000Z","author":"Melburnian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Melburnian-2007-06-22T07:36:00.000Z-Scenic_Railway","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Melburnian-2007-06-22T07:36:00.000Z-Scenic_Railway"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"],"text":"{{further}}","linkableTitle":"{{further}}"}--><h2 id="{{further}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7Bfurther.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Further" title="Template:Further">further</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=128" title="Edit section: {{further}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}","timestamp":"2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{further}}-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"],"text":"{{further}}","linkableTitle":"{{further}}"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"></span>Hey, I've renominated the template for deletion. Let's push this template thru to deletion, and get as many of your like minded friends to vote.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_June_24">[4]</a><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:199.126.28.20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:199.126.28.20 (page does not exist)">199.126.28.20</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 24 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z","author":"199.126.28.20","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-199.126.28.20-2007-06-24T03:28:00.000Z-{{further}}"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_June_25th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for June 25th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=129" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-06-26T08:08:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_June_25th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick","c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-Tr\u00f6del-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"],"text":"Sick","linkableTitle":"Sick"}--><h2 id="Sick" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span>Sick<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=130" title="Edit section: Sick"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick","c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-Tr\u00f6del-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tr\u00f6del-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick","timestamp":"2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__12__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sick-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick","c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick","c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick","c-Tr\u00f6del-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"],"text":"Sick","linkableTitle":"Sick"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick"></span>The goal of Wiki is to inform; it is not a pasteboard for one's own obsessions. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> is simply continuing a revert-war from <i>one year ago</i> on a subject that was amply discussed on the talk page. You simply don't compare one object to another if the only goal is to show everyone that the (unexplained) other (of your own preference/invention/obsession) exists - this is both pigheaded and uninformative. No bad blood from here, but in the future take a real look at the situation before sending knee-jerk responses to calculated complaints that may or may not be true. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span>Did you even read the talk page? Did you even look at the page history? Did you even try to make sense of the phrase in question? Would you call reverting to a version <i>eight months before</i> a "good-faith edit"? Please save the effort of forwarding your opinions in a matter if you are unwilling to research it beforehand - you're just fanning flames here. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:44:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span>PS - Also, I think a good phrase to describe the actions of someone whos first edit in eight months is a revert to a contribution he knows wrong and opposed would be "taking the piss". Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T11:59:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span>PPS - <a href="/wiki/Talk:%C3%8Ele-de-France_(region)#.C3.8Ele-de-France_and_the_metropolitan_area_of_Paris" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Île-de-France (region)">Here</a> you can find some reading on the subject - you will see that I was not alone in not seeing the sense/opposing <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>'s pigheaded phrasing - he is in the minority in this issue and was/is unable to present an honest or even rational case. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>'s contributions are often a formulation of his own "backed" by selective references (and repeated reverts) - this is not what Wikipedia is about at all. We formulate conclusions from facts; selecting facts to back opinion is the opposite to this. Where facts are straight and comprehensible there can be no opposition, but this is not the case. Cheers again.<a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T12:17:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-06-29T09:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick"></span>I'm actually sorry for all of this that should not be a part of Wikipedia. I'm all for the "free and easy" approach, but unfortunately a few seem to want to take advantage of that "liberal;" (and objective) way of viewing fact) Cheers.<a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-01T00:34:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick"></span>Excuse my exasperation, but it's not <i>I</i> who is "sick" here. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>'s exploits to date include blanket-reverting, sock-puppetry, providing false sources for irrelevent information (or no sources for the same at all), lying to other contributors about facts and activities (or others who oppose him) - the same in a covert way if at all possible. Have I done any of this, and am I, in your books, really to take the brunt of all this because I insist discrediting as unverifiable (not fact) every "theory" Hardouin throws our way? I really hope this goes to arbitration - or just goes away. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:20:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick"></span>PS: I <i>am</i> keeping my cool - and perspective - in all this, and won't be editing anything in any article at least till tonight. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z"></span>Have any proof of your claims of sockpuppetry? But anyway, yes, you are definitely in the wrong by "insisting [on] discredit[ing] as unverifiable" Hardouin's edits. You're convinced you're right. You're willing to do anything to make articles conform to your POV. You're willing to expend extraordinary amounts of effort in editing, reverting, and policing his efforts all by yourself. Now, I can't prove that the changes you're making are factually incorrect. But I can tell you that your behaviour is not typical of our most valuable contributors. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T10:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span>I'm not <i>convinced</i> I am right, I am <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paris_urban_area">verifiably</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.insee.fr/fr/nom_def_met/definitions/html/aire-urbaine.htm">certain</a>: all you have to do is look at the links to see that the organisation that <i>created</i> the <i>"<a href="/wiki/Aire_urbaine" class="mw-redirect" title="Aire urbaine">aire urbaine</a>"</i> statistical area has <i>never</i> used "metropolitan area" as a translation for the same (and the official translation used in internationally-published <a href="/wiki/INSEE" class="mw-redirect" title="INSEE">INSEE</a> documents is right there for you; just look, okay?) - but my being "right" has nothing to do with anything; all that counts is that Wiki articles contain verifiable fact. When you give a proper name another that it has never had, it is far from fact and easily definable as <a href="/wiki/Original_research" class="mw-redirect" title="Original research">original research</a> - if there was any research done at all.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Don't you think it's stupid to see such guff over one misused term, especially when it is so easy to check up on it? What blows all this out of proportion is <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">User:Hardouin</a>'s <i>insistance</i> on using his inventive "pet translation" - and it is because there is little to no knowledgable opposition that the same thinks he can "get away" with bully-reverting and other manipulative behaviour as an only defence the same.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>If you really want to help to put an end to this, help me find some knowlegable people willing to participate, people who know enough to be able to <i>reason</i> in a straightforward "no bullshit" way. You can only make me happy, man. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:02:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-07-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick"></span>Stevage, did you see this : <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=143693154&oldid=143692510">[5]</a>? He even tagged several contributor talk pages with a self-created "Hardouin sock-puppet" tag : <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ckoicedelire&diff=143696800&oldid=101068278">[6]</a>. This is absolutely despicable. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Now for <i>this</i> I am truly only "convinced" - but let's let the admins decide. I'll take the consequences. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-07-10T16:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-07-10T16:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trödel-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"></span>Thanks for doing what you can about this debate. I think it is only fair for you to know that Hardouin took a fairly long wikibreak at my suggestion in order to try to calm down the debate between the two. However, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%8Ele-de-France_%28region%29&diff=141070118&oldid=140758646">Hardouin's first edit</a> in 8 months is changed <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%8Ele-de-France_%28region%29&diff=141128481&oldid=141070118">very quickly</a> without any comment on the talk page. </p><p>The most frustrating thing about trying to figure this stuff out is the volume of comments ThePromenader makes, and what seems to be his inability to make a point and leave it for a bit and see if other editors agree or disagree and whether there is some kind of consensus that involves editors other than the ones in the revert war. Instead editors who disagree with him are responded to frequently and with I would consider to be condescending tones. Since the issues are often esoteric - the editor just moves on to something more interesting and less controversial. </p><p>Finally, it seems like ThePromenader is doing things to provoke Hardouin. For example, on a page ThePromenader created as <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris_urban_area&oldid=44051409">Paris metropolitan area</a> over a year ago is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Paris+metropolitan+area">moved to ThePromenader's</a> "factual" word usage title in the middle of the language disagreement between him and Hardouin. </p><p>BTW, Hardouin asked me to comment on the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=move&user=Hardouin&page=Template:Paris_urban_area">July 8th move</a> he made, and I came across your talk page while skimming through the debate and seeing that once again ThePromenader is replying multiple times before the person he is commenting to can respond with his "fact" based arguments. I must say that the thought of trying to figure this stuff out made me feel tired - anyway - good luck --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tr%C3%B6del" title="User talk:Trödel"><span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Trödel-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trödel-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z","author":"Tr\u00f6del","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tr\u00f6del-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trödel-2007-07-13T02:16:00.000Z-Sick"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"],"text":"List of Pentax K mount lenses","linkableTitle":"List of Pentax K mount lenses"}--><h2 id="List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"></span>List of Pentax K mount lenses<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=131" title="Edit section: List of Pentax K mount lenses"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"],"text":"List of Pentax K mount lenses","linkableTitle":"List of Pentax K mount lenses"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"></span>Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well in the closing rationale. Basically, there was a clear consensus that something had to be done with the article other than keeping it. A lot of people were arguing for a merge to <a href="/wiki/Pentax_K_mount" class="mw-redirect" title="Pentax K mount">Pentax K mount</a>, so I was going to do this, but then I saw how lengthy the list was, and I couldn't see any way to merge it into the parent article without making that article long and confusing. Re your other question, no, I wouldn't say it was "inherently wrong" to have a list of lenses supporting a mount as a Wikipedia article, nor that the list was "offensively poor". However, there wasn't any evidence of why the list merited inclusion in an encyclopedia. Your argument centred on the fact that the list was useful and informative; that's probably true, but not everything that's useful is necessarily <i>encyclopedic</i>. (See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:USEFUL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:USEFUL">WP:USEFUL</a>.) I hope that explains why I closed the AfD as Delete; however, if you disagree, you can take it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">deletion review</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Walton_monarchist89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Walton monarchist89 (page does not exist)">Walton</a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Walton_monarchist89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Walton monarchist89 (page does not exist)">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Walton monarchist89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses","replies":["c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Walton"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z-List_of_Pentax_K_mount_lenses"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I know that AfD culture is often confusing. Given that my closure was controversial, I recommend you take the article to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">deletion review</a>. I will abstain from participating in the DRV; we can let the community decide. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Walton_monarchist89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Walton monarchist89 (page does not exist)">Walton</a><sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Walton_monarchist89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Walton monarchist89 (page does not exist)">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z","author":"Walton monarchist89","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Walton"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Walton_monarchist89-2007-07-01T13:44:00.000Z-Walton_monarchist89-2007-06-30T11:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview"],"text":"Wikipedia Study\/Interview","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia Study\/Interview"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia_Study/Interview" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_Study/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia_Study.2FInterview"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_Study/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia Study/Interview<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_Study/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=132" title="Edit section: Wikipedia Study/Interview"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T23:14:00.000Z-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-07-03T23:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study\/Interview"],"text":"Wikipedia Study\/Interview","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia Study\/Interview"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study/Interview"></span>Hi Steve, Hope you're well. My email is playing up and I sent you an email confirming you received my email.... but then realised you may not have got that (how confusing)! </p><p>Are you still ok to participate in the study? Just trying to confirm my numbers for uni deadlines :-) Sorry to interupt if you've been super busy.... if you can shoot a quick email or post on my talk just to let me know I'd appreciate it. <a href="/wiki/User:Tamsinjane" title="User:Tamsinjane">tamsin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study/Interview" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamsinjane-2007-07-03T02:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Study/Interview"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-07-24T06:54:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-07-24T06:54:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-24T06:54:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-07-24T06:54:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-07-24T06:54:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_23rd,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"],"text":"Wp:france","linkableTitle":"Wp:france"}--><h2 id="Wp:france" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:France" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:France">Wp:france</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=137" title="Edit section: Wp:france"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france","timestamp":"2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wp:france-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"],"text":"Wp:france","linkableTitle":"Wp:france"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"></span>The redirect that you created, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:France" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:France">Wp:france</a>, has been proposed for deletion. You can comment at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2007_August_1" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 August 1">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 August 1</a> should you feel the need to. --<span style="font-variant: small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:ChrisDHDR" title="User:ChrisDHDR">ChrisDHDR</a></span> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChrisDHDR" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:ChrisDHDR"></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ChrisDHDR" title="Special:Contributions/ChrisDHDR">contrib's</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z","author":"ChrisDHDR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChrisDHDR-2007-08-01T08:38:00.000Z-Wp:france"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"],"text":"La Tour d'Auvergne","linkableTitle":"La Tour d'Auvergne"}--><h2 id="La_Tour_d'Auvergne" data-mw-thread-id="h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z"><span id="La_Tour_d.27Auvergne"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z"></span>La Tour d'Auvergne<span data-mw-comment-end="h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=138" title="Edit section: La Tour d'Auvergne"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne","timestamp":"2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-La_Tour_d'Auvergne-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"],"text":"La Tour d'Auvergne","linkableTitle":"La Tour d'Auvergne"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"></span>No problem! We French people are sneaky like that, with names that don't sound like names. <a href="/wiki/User:Fair_Alienor" title="User:Fair Alienor">Fair Alienor</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fair_Alienor" title="User talk:Fair Alienor">Talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z","author":"Fair Alienor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fair_Alienor-2007-08-02T13:00:00.000Z-La_Tour_d'Auvergne"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_July_30th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for July 30th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=139" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007.-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-08-04T00:36:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_July_30th,_2007."></span>Apologies for the late delivery this week; my plans to handle this while on vacation went awry. <a href="/wiki/User:Ral315" title="User:Ral315">Ral315</a> </p> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; top: .3em; font-size: 250%;"><b>Weekly Delivery</b></span> </th></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b>Volume 3, Issue 31</b></td> <td align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/30_July" class="mw-redirect" title="30 July">30 July</a> <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a></b></td> <td align="right"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About the Signpost</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table align="center" cellspacing="20" width="90%" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/From the editor">From the editor: Another experiment and Wikimania</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/Citizendium_analysis" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/Citizendium analysis">Report on Citizendium</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/News_from_Citizendium" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/News from Citizendium">Response: News from Citizendium</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/Another_desysopping" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/Another desysopping">User resigns admin status amid allegations of sock puppetry</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/WikiWorld" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/WikiWorld">WikiWorld comic: "Mr. Bean"</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/In_the_news" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/In the news">Wikipedia in the news</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/Features_and_admins" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/Features and admins">Features and admins</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/Technology report">Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-07-30/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-30/Arbitration report">The Report on Lengthy Litigation</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="2"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Home</a></b> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives">Archives</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom">Newsroom</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions">Tip Line</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Tools/Single" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Single">Single-Page View</a> </td> <td align="right"><small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a> : <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POST">WP:POST</a></small> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><small>You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Tools/Spamlist" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist"><i>Signpost</i> spamlist</a>. 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What does "non productive edit- that was an improvement?" mean? Do you revert good-faith edits by habit? Do you think that it's better to link to [flying boats] rather than [flying boat]s? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-08-13T05:05:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)</a>."<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-08-13T05:05:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-13T05:05:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-08-13T05:05:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-08-13T05:05:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span>Hi Steve, thanks for your note. I would be happy to elaborate: </p> <ul><li>You wrote:"The <b>Hughes H-4 Hercules</b> was a once-off aircraft " – the term is "one-off"</li> <li>You wrote: "making its first and only flight took place in 1947." – the sentence fragment should have read "making its first and only flight in 1947."</li> <li>You wrote: "It was nicknamed the "<b>Spruce Goose</b>" in reference to its wooden construction, and as a way of mocking the Hercules project due to Hughes' alleged misuse of government funding to build the aircraft." The original sentences read: "Hughes himself detested the nickname "Spruce Goose". The nickname arose as a way of mocking the Hercules project due to Hughes' alleged misuse of government funding to build the aircraft." The differences that are important is that two short, active voice sentences were changed into one, long sentence in a passive voice, plus removing the reference that Hughes was not in favour of the name. The use of "it" in an introductory paragraph is also non-standard.</li> <li>You wrote: "The laminated wood was glued with a form of composite technology known as Dura Mold..." – The sentence should have read "The Duramold process was used in forming the laminated wood." Duramold is a process as you have surmised but the sentence was ambiguous in stating the wood was glued with a form of technology rather than saying a form of technology was used in gluing the wood.</li></ul> <p>When there were no substantive improvements to the introduction but instead errors in syntax, content and grammar were made, then I concluded that there was a "non-productive edit" that did not further the meaning or readability of the passage. FWIW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z","author":"Bzuk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules","replies":["c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z"></span>I find it a bit disconcerting that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bzuk&diff=150973697&oldid=150973382">my contribution</a> to this discussion was deemed "silliness" in the edit summary. <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">User:Bzuk</a> then went on to call the Spruce Goose a "Bf 109" and claim that it was the largest "aircraft" (rather than "flying boat") ever built. These weird edits were later explained away with some technical excuse that, frankly to me, sounds fictional. Is there something amiss with <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">User:Bzuk</a>, Stevage? --<a href="/wiki/User:Dude_Manchap" title="User:Dude Manchap">Dude Manchap</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Dude Manchap","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-14T01:35:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-08-13T06:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span>Strange behaviour indeed. Here's what he removed from his talkpage. General etiquette discourages removing anything from your own talk page. </p> <div style="background-color: lightgray;"> <p>Yes; See <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/dick" class="extiw" title="m:dick">m:dick</a>. Stevage, I think it probably has to do with ownership of articles and people preferring their own style, regardless of whether it is the most succint. <span style="padding:2px;font-size:80%;font-family:verdana;background:#E6E8FA;"><a href="/wiki/User:KamrynMatika2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:KamrynMatika2">Kamryn</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:KamrynMatika2" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:KamrynMatika2">Talk</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z","author":"KamrynMatika2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules","replies":["c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Kamryn"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z"></span>Stevage's edit, in my opinion, is the preferred one -- not Bzuk's revert. The only critique of the Stevage edit I have would be: <i>The <b>Hughes H-4 Hercules</b> was a once-off aircraft designed and built by <a href="/wiki/Howard_Hughes" title="Howard Hughes">Howard Hughes</a>' <a href="/wiki/Hughes_Aircraft" class="mw-redirect" title="Hughes Aircraft">Hughes Aircraft</a> company, making its first and only flight <s>took place</s> in 1947.</i> I'm going to revert back to Stevage's edit, and if that leads to trouble, I'll bail on the argument. Only reason I'm an interested party is that I attended a wedding reception at Evergreen museum and sat under the portside wing of this amazing aircraft. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dude_Manchap" title="User:Dude Manchap">Dude Manchap</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Dude Manchap","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z-KamrynMatika2-2007-08-13T09:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z"></span>Looks like <a href="/wiki/User:Reinis" title="User:Reinis">User:Reinis</a> already beat me to the punch, even catching the strikeout. Let's hope it sticks and that Bzuk doesn't take offense. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dude_Manchap" title="User:Dude Manchap">Dude Manchap</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Dude Manchap","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:30:00.000Z-Dude_Manchap-2007-08-13T12:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span>Also, judging from other comments there (and who knows if he's deleted others), he seems to have a history of revert wars and being excessively rude to people who make grammar or spelling errors. Is there something amiss? No, unfortunately users like this do exist. Personally, I prefer to avoid them. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-08-14T03:26:00.000Z-Hughes_H-4_Hercules"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"],"text":"Digital Negative","linkableTitle":"Digital Negative"}--><h2 id="Digital_Negative" data-mw-thread-id="h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z"></span>Digital Negative<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=142" title="Edit section: Digital Negative"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative","timestamp":"2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Digital_Negative-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"],"text":"Digital Negative","linkableTitle":"Digital Negative"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"></span>You're supposed to start the discussion, explaining your proposal and how to respond, which you place merge tags as on <a href="/wiki/Digital_negative" class="mw-redirect" title="Digital negative">digital negative</a>; otherwise someone can just remove it for not finding the linked discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2007-08-14T15:21:00.000Z-Digital_Negative"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_August_13th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 13th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=143" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007.-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-08-14T21:06:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_13th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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Can you comment <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Redesign_of_placeholder_images" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">here</a>? — <a href="/wiki/User:Omegatron" title="User:Omegatron">Omegatron</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Omegatron-2007-08-27T08:12:00.000Z-Placeholder_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Omegatron-2007-08-27T08:12:00.000Z-Placeholder_images"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-27T08:12:00.000Z","author":"Omegatron","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Omegatron-2007-08-27T08:12:00.000Z-Placeholder_images","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Omegatron-2007-08-27T08:12:00.000Z-Placeholder_images"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007."}--><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_August_27th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for August 27th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=146" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.","timestamp":"2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007.-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007."],"text":"Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007.","linkableTitle":"Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007."}--></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2007-08-28T06:50:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_August_27th,_2007."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><span style="position: relative; 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id="c-Froth-2007-09-25T18:31:00.000Z-Sieve_WP:FPC"></span>I noticed that your objection to the FPC was that it was too slow.. well <small><a href="/wiki/User:Brian0918" title="User:Brian0918"><b style="color:black;">BRIAN</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brian0918" title="User talk:Brian0918"><span style="color:gray;">0918</span></a></small> created an edit that plays faster, so could you take a look at it and possibly update your vote? --<a href="/wiki/User:Froth" title="User:Froth"><b>froth</b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Froth" title="User talk:Froth"><small>t</small></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Froth-2007-09-25T18:31:00.000Z-Sieve_WP:FPC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Froth-2007-09-25T18:31:00.000Z-Sieve_WP:FPC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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id="Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007.-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_September_24th.2C_2007."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007.-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 24th, 2007.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007.-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=151" title="Edit section: Signpost updated for September 24th, 2007."><span>edit</span></a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b>Volume 3, Issue 39</b></td> <td align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/24_September" class="mw-redirect" title="24 September">24 September</a> <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a></b></td> <td align="right"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About the Signpost</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table align="center" cellspacing="20" width="90%" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/From the editor">From the editor: Survey results</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/Relocation" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/Relocation">Wikimedia announces plans to move office to San Francisco</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/WikiWorld" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/WikiWorld">WikiWorld comic: "Ambigram"</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/News and notes">News and notes: <i>Times</i> archives, conferences, milestones</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/Features_and_admins" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/Features and admins">Features and admins</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/Technology report">Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-09-24/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-09-24/Arbitration report">The Report on Lengthy Litigation</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="14"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives">Archives</a> | <a 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:R_Delivery_Bot" title="User:R Delivery Bot">R Delivery Bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-R_Delivery_Bot-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-R_Delivery_Bot-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z","author":"R Delivery Bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-R_Delivery_Bot-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-R_Delivery_Bot-2007-09-27T02:40:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_24th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"],"text":"Ile-de-France","linkableTitle":"Ile-de-France"}--><h2 id="Ile-de-France" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"></span>Ile-de-France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=152" title="Edit section: Ile-de-France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ile-de-France-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"],"text":"Ile-de-France","linkableTitle":"Ile-de-France"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"></span>Hi Stevage. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader">User:ThePromenader</a> is back again leading his revert crusade. The <a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_(region)" class="mw-redirect" title="Île-de-France (region)">Île-de-France</a> article has been recently unlocked and only a few days later Promenader couldn't resist deleting a sentence about the metropolitan area of Paris (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%8Ele-de-France_%28region%29&diff=160643699&oldid=160494980">[7]</a>), even though the sentence is backed by a source. He's also trying to rally people to support him (see <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThePromenader#Other_occupations?" title="User talk:ThePromenader">User talk:ThePromenader#Other occupations?</a>). It would be good if you could have a look at <a href="/wiki/Talk:%C3%8Ele-de-France_(region)#Here_we_go_again." class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Île-de-France (region)">Talk:Île-de-France (region)#Here we go again.</a> and give some input there. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z-Ile-de-France"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"></span>Oh, call the waaaaaambulance. The reverting is <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>'s: I removed a phrase that was akin to comparing "a wibbit is as big as a wobbit" without stating the size of either. Hardouin and I had an agreement over "metropolitan area" - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.insee.fr/fr/nom_def_met/definitions/html/aire-urbaine.htm">that is not an official or even proper translation of "aire urbaine"</a> - that it be used as a descriptive, but not a proper name - but he has elected to ignore both this and the Cabal judgement it seems. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">User:Hardouin</a> is also reverting the contributions of another editor in the process, without offering any sort of comment or explanation at all.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As for "rallying", at least I'm asking people I know <i>know</i> something about the subject, and the person in question (not person<i>s</i>) actually <i>lived</i> in the Paris region. Seeking the support of those we know ignorant on the subject is not in the interest of fact - as we all know. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z"></span>Stevage is not ignorant on the subject so stop insulting people. Also stop stalking and always leaving messages after me on third party talk pages. You're not making yourself popular by doing that. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z"></span>Stevage has admitted to not knowing the details of the subject. By the way, I edited the article to comply with our compromise, so all this fuss should be over. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-09-28T12:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z"></span>Not this again. Ugh. I edit on a wide range of subjects (see: <a href="/wiki/User:Stevage/Stubs" title="User:Stevage/Stubs">User:Stevage/Stubs</a>), and I've never seen such difficulties over what are apparently simple issues. I'll happily do basic research and express an opinion when someone presents to me a question like "Should we use term X or Y for this concept?" But I'm not going to read back through dozens of revisions or attempt to read between the lines to work out what petty difference of wording is causing all the drama. Honestly, Wikipedia would be a lot better off if you would both devote your talents to separate articles, regardless of which one of you is "right" in this case. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-09-29T03:48:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2007-09-28T12:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ralbot-2007-10-16T10:15:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2007-10-16T10:15:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-16T10:15:00.000Z","author":"Ralbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ralbot-2007-10-16T10:15:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2007-10-16T10:15:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_October_15th,_2007."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"],"text":"Regex expressions for redirects","linkableTitle":"Regex expressions for redirects"}--><h2 id="Regex_expressions_for_redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span>Regex expressions for redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=155" title="Edit section: Regex expressions for redirects"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regex_expressions_for_redirects-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"],"text":"Regex expressions for redirects","linkableTitle":"Regex expressions for redirects"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"></span>I was reading <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-October/083880.html">this mailing list post</a>, and I thought of a problem. When you have people, often their middle initials are used in the page titles, or in redirects to the full name title. The trouble is that many people have the same middle initial and name, so you would end up at a disambiguation page anyway. Your regex expression thingy would have been useful at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Thomas-Fran%C3%A7ois_Dalibard#Correct_spelling_of_name?" title="Talk:Thomas-François Dalibard">Talk:Thomas-François Dalibard#Correct spelling of name?</a>, but I don't see how it would help with things like <a href="/w/index.php?title=J._K._Smith&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="J. K. Smith (page does not exist)">J. K. Smith</a>, which could refer to <a href="/wiki/Julie_K._Smith" title="Julie K. Smith">Julie K. Smith</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jean_Kennedy_Smith" title="Jean Kennedy Smith">Jean Kennedy Smith</a>, and <a href="/wiki/James_K._A._Smith" title="James K. A. Smith">James K. A. Smith</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Carcharoth" title="User:Carcharoth">Carcharoth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","author":"Carcharoth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z-Regex_expressions_for_redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span>Allowing people to find a page just by initials is a nice goal, but a bit more than I was aiming for. I'll I'm really suggesting is allowing you to do whatever you can do by creating 8 manual redirects (eg, <a href="/wiki/Thomas-Fran%C3%A7ois_Dalibard" title="Thomas-François Dalibard">Thomas-François Dalibard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Fran%C3%A7ois_Dalibard" class="mw-redirect" title="Thomas François Dalibard">Thomas François Dalibard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thomas-Francois_Dalibard" class="mw-redirect" title="Thomas-Francois Dalibard">Thomas-Francois Dalibard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Francois_Dalibard" class="mw-redirect" title="Thomas Francois Dalibard">Thomas Francois Dalibard</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Dalibard" class="mw-redirect" title="Thomas Dalibard">Thomas Dalibard</a> etc) with one simple statement: #ALIASES Thomas[-[Fran[c|ç]ois]] Dalibard. Now if turned out there was already an article on a different guy called Thomas Dalibard (or maybe that was even a disambiguation page), then I imagine the alias wouldn't work: you would always be taken to the actual page instead. However, if there was no page, but two different "regexes" (they're not really) matched the same string, then you could have the automatic disambiguation. So perhaps there's another article with a line like: #ALIASES T[h]omas Dalibart - then obviously "Thomas Dalibart" would match either alias, so an automatic disambiguation would be used.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This is all just pie in the sky for the moment. Would it be helpful for you, do you think? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z"></span>It would be more useful for the hyphen, special character, apostrophe and capitalisation stuff. I hadn't realised you didn't mean initials as well. I was probably misled by the Greater Melbourne examples being used. The initials thing arises because often authors of papers (in article references), and people in lists of awards, and in old documents and newspaper reports. Often it is desirable to record exactly what the source says, rather than changing it to link to the person you think they are referring to. An example is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Auszug_aus_einem_Briefe_des_Herrn_J._F._W._Herschel_an_den_Herausgeber">this</a>, where "Mr South" is <a href="/wiki/James_South" title="James South">James South</a> and "M. Stuve" is <a href="/wiki/Friedrich_Georg_Wilhelm_von_Struve" title="Friedrich Georg Wilhelm von Struve">Friedrich Georg Wilhelm von Struve</a>. I find disambiguation pages and redirects helps a lot when searching for a page to link to, in cases like this, but as you say, not really applicable in your case. Just pointing out (though it seems you already knew) that it wouldn't completely solve the need to laboriously construct disambiguation pages and create redirects. Though someone is writing a bot to try and automatically generate some disambiguation suggestions. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Carcharoth" title="User:Carcharoth">Carcharoth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z","author":"Carcharoth","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-23T14:21:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-23T13:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"],"text":"{{Credit}}","linkableTitle":"{{Credit}}"}--><h2 id="{{Credit}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BCredit.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Credit" title="Template:Credit">Credit</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=156" title="Edit section: {{Credit}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-{{Credit}}-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"],"text":"{{Credit}}","linkableTitle":"{{Credit}}"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"></span>I don't see the point of this template. An image description page provides for all the attribution and credit for images one would ever need. Why pollute the mainspace with meta information?-- <a href="/wiki/User:Longhair" title="User:Longhair">Longhair</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Longhair" title="User talk:Longhair">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z-{{Credit}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"></span>I guess I expected a negative reaction. I'm taking images from flickr that are licenced under "attribution required" and uploading them to Wikipedia. Personally, I don't think tucking the attribution information behind an unintuitive mouse-click cuts it. Attributing an image means publicly stating where it came from, not begrudingly providing that information on request. Considering we're getting these nice, useful images totally free, complying with the licence conditions seems pretty reasonable. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z"></span>I see your point, but I'm wondering if this has been discussed anywhere I can read up on? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Longhair" title="User:Longhair">Longhair</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Longhair" title="User talk:Longhair">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z"></span>Not that I know of, but it's probably time it was. Want to start a discussion somewhere? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z"></span>I've posted pretty much the same remark to the template talk page. That's a good a place as any I guess to see what comes of it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Longhair" title="User:Longhair">Longhair</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Longhair" title="User talk:Longhair">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Longhair-2007-10-29T04:53:00.000Z-Stevage-2007-10-29T04:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"],"text":"More credit stuff","linkableTitle":"More credit stuff"}--><h2 id="More_credit_stuff" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z"></span>More credit stuff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=157" title="Edit section: More credit stuff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff","timestamp":"2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-More_credit_stuff-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"],"text":"More credit stuff","linkableTitle":"More credit stuff"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"></span>I saw <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-October/084448.html">this mailing list post</a>, and the term "content creator" seems fairly widely used, though "author" is OK for non-photographic images as well. I agree with you that photo credits should be easier to access - not so much for individual photographers (though that would be nice), but the vast amount of, say, Library of Congress, NASA, and other US government/public institution pictures. Astronomical pics, for example, should always say in the caption what instrument took them, and so on. I will subscribe to the mailing list eventually, but haven't got round to it yet. Do you think you could pass these thoughts on? I also think poeple should be more aware of the differences between text and images - one person in that thread seemed puzzled by this: "I've noticed people seem to hold photos and text to very different standards." Well, I've never yet seen anyone taking a photo with a keyboard or pen, or seen anyone writing with a camera. They are plainly different media. <a href="/wiki/User:Carcharoth" title="User:Carcharoth">Carcharoth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Carcharoth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carcharoth-2007-10-30T12:27:00.000Z-More_credit_stuff"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"],"text":"Promenader's new assault","linkableTitle":"Promenader's new assault"}--><h2 id="Promenader's_new_assault" data-mw-thread-id="h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"><span id="Promenader.27s_new_assault"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span>Promenader's new assault<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=158" title="Edit section: Promenader's new assault"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader's_new_assault-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"],"text":"Promenader's new assault","linkableTitle":"Promenader's new assault"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"></span>Promenader is on the rampage again. This time he wants to delete the template showing communes in the metropolitan area of Paris. I don't know where this guy will stop to remove any notion of an agglomeration of Paris. He has single-handedly listed the template for deletion (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Paris_Metropolitan_Area&diff=172724746&oldid=161181746">[8]</a>), completely disregarding the fact that several editors have contributed to this template and that he is the sole person asking for its deletion. He has written a message on the template's talk page which you can check here: <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Paris_Metropolitan_Area#This_Template_is_pointless." title="Template talk:Paris Metropolitan Area">Template talk:Paris Metropolitan Area#This Template is pointless.</a>. Last but not least he has also single-handedly removed the template from the 20 arrondissements of Paris, because according to him these arrondissements have nothing to do with the suburban communes: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ier_arrondissement&diff=172480202&oldid=172252773">[9]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IIe_arrondissement&diff=172708173&oldid=172480289">[10]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IIIe_arrondissement&diff=172252674&oldid=172056446">[11]</a>, etc. Complete denial of a Greater Paris, and that just when an administrative "Grand Paris" is going to be created by French authorities next year! This guy really has a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault","replies":["c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z-Promenader's_new_assault"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span>Promenader has also created an entry at Templates for deletion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_November_20#Template:Paris_Metropolitan_Area" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 November 20">Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 November 20#Template:Paris Metropolitan Area</a>. You can vote there to keep or delete the template. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2007-11-20T17:32:00.000Z-Hardouin-2007-11-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"],"text":"Fish Creek photos","linkableTitle":"Fish Creek photos"}--><h2 id="Fish_Creek_photos" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"></span>Fish Creek photos<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=159" title="Edit section: Fish Creek photos"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fish_Creek_photos-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"],"text":"Fish Creek photos","linkableTitle":"Fish Creek photos"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"></span>Hi Stevage. I am in the process of creating a directory of Images on Victorian towns at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_page" class="extiw" title="commons:Main page">Wikimedia Commons</a> and your photos were ideal for use in that directory. The directory can be found at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Towns_of_Victoria" class="extiw" title="commons:Towns of Victoria">commons:Towns of Victoria</a>. <s> Images at Wikimedia commons are still available for use in Wikipedia (using exactly the same syntax as images on Wikipedia) and the big advantage is that they are available for use in other Wikimedia projects as well, such as Wikipedia in other languages. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons">Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons</a> for more information.</s> </p><p>The gallery with your Fish Creek photos can be found at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fish_Creek,_Victoria" class="extiw" title="commons:Fish Creek, Victoria">commons:Fish Creek, Victoria</a>. As the gallery was available at the commons link, I thought it was redundant to have it in the main body of the article. If you are unhappy with that, you can of course revert that change. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Mattinbgn" title="User:Mattinbgn">Mattinbgn</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mattinbgn" title="User talk:Mattinbgn">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Mattinbgn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos","replies":["c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z-Fish_Creek_photos"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"></span>Having a another look at those images it seems you are familiar with commons. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Mattinbgn" title="User:Mattinbgn">Mattinbgn</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mattinbgn" title="User talk:Mattinbgn">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z","author":"Mattinbgn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I am unsure if you want the gallery returned. I do think where images are useful where they illustrate a particular point made in the article, but galleries seem to be in the main gratuitous. That said, the Fish Creek gallery had only three pictures, so I have no objections if you wish to return it. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Mattinbgn" title="User:Mattinbgn">Mattinbgn</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mattinbgn" title="User talk:Mattinbgn">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z","author":"Mattinbgn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mattinbgn-2007-11-28T07:00:00.000Z-Mattinbgn-2007-11-25T21:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"],"text":"Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer","linkableTitle":"Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer"}--><h2 id="Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z"></span>Nonsense of <a href="/wiki/Wi-fi_cancer" class="mw-redirect" title="Wi-fi cancer">Wi-fi cancer</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=160" title="Edit section: Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer","timestamp":"2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"],"text":"Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer","linkableTitle":"Nonsense of Wi-fi cancer"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_icon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/62px-Information_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="62" height="62" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/93px-Information_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/124px-Information_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Hello, this is a message from <a href="/wiki/User:CSDWarnBot" title="User:CSDWarnBot">an automated bot</a>. 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To see the user who deleted the page, click <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Wi-fi+cancer">here</a></b> <a href="/wiki/User:CSDWarnBot" title="User:CSDWarnBot">CSDWarnBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CSDWarnBot" title="User talk:CSDWarnBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z","author":"CSDWarnBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CSDWarnBot-2007-11-29T08:30:00.000Z-Nonsense_of_Wi-fi_cancer"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"],"text":"Wi-fi cancer","linkableTitle":"Wi-fi cancer"}--><h2 id="Wi-fi_cancer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z"></span>Wi-fi cancer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=161" title="Edit section: Wi-fi cancer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer","timestamp":"2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wi-fi_cancer-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"],"text":"Wi-fi cancer","linkableTitle":"Wi-fi cancer"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"></span>Hi. Someone at <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:88.172.132.94&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:88.172.132.94 (page does not exist)">88.172.132.94</a> tagged it for speedy deletion. I've undeleted it, but for my 2¢, working the term into the article might be a less subtle way of directing search results than the redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:IceKarma" title="User:IceKarma">IceKarma</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:IceKarma#new" title="User talk:IceKarma">ॐ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z","author":"IceKarma","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IceKarma-2007-11-30T04:34:00.000Z-Wi-fi_cancer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"],"text":"Admin","linkableTitle":"Admin"}--><h2 id="Admin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Admin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=162" title="Edit section: Admin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin","timestamp":"2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Admin-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"],"text":"Admin","linkableTitle":"Admin"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"></span>Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as you seem experienced enough. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Epbr123" title="User:Epbr123">Epbr123</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 1 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z","author":"Epbr123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Epbr123-2007-12-01T10:24:00.000Z-Admin"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"],"text":"WP:EPISODE","linkableTitle":"WP:EPISODE"}--><h2 id="WP:EPISODE" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z"></span>WP:EPISODE<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=163" title="Edit section: WP:EPISODE"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE","timestamp":"2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WP:EPISODE-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"],"text":"WP:EPISODE","linkableTitle":"WP:EPISODE"}--></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Television_episodes&curid=2949878&diff=179327548&oldid=179314983"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"></span>[12]</a> </p><p>Would you like to say what is disputed? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ned_Scott" title="User:Ned Scott">Ned Scott</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z","author":"Ned Scott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ned_Scott-2007-12-21T04:12:00.000Z-WP:EPISODE"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"],"text":"Draco.NET","linkableTitle":"Draco.NET"}--><h2 id="Draco.NET" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z"></span>Draco.NET<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=164" title="Edit section: Draco.NET"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET","timestamp":"2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draco.NET-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"],"text":"Draco.NET","linkableTitle":"Draco.NET"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg/48px-Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg/72px-Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg/96px-Nuvola_apps_important_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Prod" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Prod">proposed deletion</a></b> template has been added to the article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draco.NET&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draco.NET (page does not exist)">Draco.NET</a>, suggesting that it be deleted according to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion</a> process. 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If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-author" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Db-author">db-author</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> to the top of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draco.NET&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draco.NET (page does not exist)">Draco.NET</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Technobadger" title="User:Technobadger">Technobadger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Technobadger" title="User talk:Technobadger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z","author":"Technobadger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Technobadger-2008-01-03T14:27:00.000Z-Draco.NET"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"],"text":"Morgane de toi#Description of tracks","linkableTitle":"Morgane de toi#Description of tracks"}--><h2 id="Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z"><span id="Morgane_de_toi.23Description_of_tracks"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks" title="Morgane de toi">Morgane de toi#Description of tracks</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=165" title="Edit section: Morgane de toi#Description of tracks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks","timestamp":"2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"],"text":"Morgane de toi#Description of tracks","linkableTitle":"Morgane de toi#Description of tracks"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"></span>Mieux vaut tard que jamais: very nice job! Thank you, and congrats. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jerome_Charles_Potts" title="User:Jerome Charles Potts">Jerome Potts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerome_Charles_Potts" title="User talk:Jerome Charles Potts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z","author":"Jerome Charles Potts","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks","replies":[],"displayName":"Jerome Potts"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerome_Charles_Potts-2008-01-17T05:24:00.000Z-Morgane_de_toi#Description_of_tracks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"],"text":"Image sizes","linkableTitle":"Image sizes"}--><h2 id="Image_sizes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"></span>Image sizes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=166" title="Edit section: Image sizes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image_sizes-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"],"text":"Image sizes","linkableTitle":"Image sizes"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"></span>You asked me <i>on what grounds do you say that pictures should be left to the default size?</i> Firstly image sizes can be set by user preferences. It seems rather strange that you would seek to overrride user preferences. A debate on image size defgaults can be found here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Image_use_policy/Archive_8#Forced_image_size" title="Wikipedia talk:Image use policy/Archive 8">Wikipedia talk:Image use policy/Archive 8#Forced image size</a>. This discussion led to the <b>policy</b> at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Displayed_image_size" title="Wikipedia:Image use policy">Wikipedia:Image use policy#Displayed image size</a> - <i>In articles, if you wish to have a photo beside the text, you should generally use the "thumbnail" option available in the "Image markup" </i>. Thus my grounds for that edit are that it is in accordance with policy. Exceptions are things like maps where the detail might not be able to be seen satisfactorily. Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Matilda" title="User:Matilda">Matilda</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matilda" title="User talk:Matilda">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","author":"Matilda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes","replies":["c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z-Image_sizes"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"></span>You said <i>Hmm, are you trying to pull a swifty? The policy which you pointed me to makes no comment about image sizes at all. It just says to use the thumbnail tag. It even implies that it's ok to have larger images</i>. No I am not trying to "pull a swifty".. The policy states <i>use the "thumbnail" option available in the "Image markup" (this results in 180 pixels wide display in standard preferences default setting).</i> - the clarification in brackets refers to size - ie the default size option if you do not put in fixed pixel height or width when using the thumbnail markup. Thus the policy in fact does refer specifically to size! Once again I question why you are trying to override user preferences in your mark-up? If you personally wish to see pictures as larger, please modify your user preferences. I take the qualification about image properties to refer to such things as maps or perhaps other images with text in them where the default zsize would make them unintelligible. The pictures in the edit you are referring to are landscape type images and do not need to be any larger than the default width of 180px (or whatever default width a user has chosen for themselves). Please note that I resent the lack of good faith assumed in <i>are you trying to pull a swifty?</i> --<a href="/wiki/User:Matilda" title="User:Matilda">Matilda</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matilda" title="User talk:Matilda">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Matilda","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matilda-2008-01-20T20:44:00.000Z-Matilda-2008-01-20T08:09:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"],"text":"Main Page deletion stuff","linkableTitle":"Main Page deletion stuff"}--><h2 id="Main_Page_deletion_stuff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z"></span>Main Page deletion stuff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=167" title="Edit section: Main Page deletion stuff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff","timestamp":"2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Main_Page_deletion_stuff-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"],"text":"Main Page deletion stuff","linkableTitle":"Main Page deletion stuff"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"></span>Hi again. Hope you don't mind another mailing list post... I was reading <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2008-February/089569.html">this thread</a>, and was wondering if I could possibly ask you to post a link to my on-wiki summary? See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Summary" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Summary</a>. <i>"Tim's hack basically serves only to</i> prevent accidental or other non-malicious deletion"<i> - I'd say, yes (Angela's workaround was quite clever!), and that this workaround plays down the concern that this is moving against the tradition that admins should be able to use their tools on all pages. I'll ask Risker as well, about posting that link, as I see he has posted there. <a href="/wiki/User:Carcharoth" title="User:Carcharoth">Carcharoth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carcharoth" title="User talk:Carcharoth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z","author":"Carcharoth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carcharoth-2008-02-04T14:01:00.000Z-Main_Page_deletion_stuff"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"],"text":"Here we go again","linkableTitle":"Here we go again"}--><h2 id="Here_we_go_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z"></span>Here we go again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=168" title="Edit section: Here we go again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again","timestamp":"2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"],"text":"Here we go again","linkableTitle":"Here we go again"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"></span>The <a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France_(r%C3%A9gion)" class="mw-redirect" title="Île-de-France (région)">Île-de-France (région)</a> article was fully protected due to the edit war waged by <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader">User:ThePromenader</a> who wants to have the "Paris metropolitan area" removed from the article if you remember, then last month it was unprotected to allow good faith editors to edit the article, and sure enough one month later ThePromenader has renewed his edit war and deleted the "Paris metropolitan area" from the lead of the article, by claiming that it was an "uninformative phrase" (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%8Ele-de-France_%28region%29&diff=191708868&oldid=190285368">[13]</a>). We've been through all that already, I know it's really tiring, but as long as the guy is not banned from editing the Paris related articles, all we can do is check these articles and reinstate the information he keeps deleting. Please have a look. Alone I can't do much. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2008-02-16T15:21:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"],"text":"AfD nomination of Gene Matlock","linkableTitle":"AfD nomination of Gene Matlock"}--><h2 id="AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z"></span>AfD nomination of Gene Matlock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=169" title="Edit section: AfD nomination of Gene Matlock"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock","timestamp":"2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"],"text":"AfD nomination of Gene Matlock","linkableTitle":"AfD nomination of Gene Matlock"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/48px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/72px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/96px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>An article that you have been involved in editing, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Gene_Matlock&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gene Matlock (page does not exist)">Gene Matlock</a>, has been listed for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deletion</a>. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gene_Matlock" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gene Matlock">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gene Matlock</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Optigan13" title="User:Optigan13">Optigan13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Optigan13" title="User talk:Optigan13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Optigan13-2008-02-18T23:44:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Gene_Matlock"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Towel401-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Optical_Disc-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Towel401-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z-Optical_Disc"],"text":"Optical Disc","linkableTitle":"Optical Disc"}--><h2 id="Optical_Disc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Optical_Disc-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Optical_Disc-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Optical Disc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Optical_Disc-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=170" title="Edit section: Optical Disc"><span>edit</span></a><span 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id="c-Towel401-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z-Optical_Disc"></span>Because SD was intended to be a completely new optical storage format incompatible with the <a href="/wiki/Compact_disc" title="Compact disc">compact disc</a> -<a href="/wiki/User:Towel401" title="User:Towel401">Towel401</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Towel401" title="User talk:Towel401">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Towel401-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z-Optical_Disc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Towel401-2008-02-19T17:51:00.000Z-Optical_Disc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-French_communes-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes"],"text":"French communes","linkableTitle":"French communes"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes"></span>Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes</a>: </p><p><br/> I would like to welcome you back to the project. With some help from <a href="/wiki/User:AlbertHerring" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AlbertHerring">User:AlbertHerring</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Blofeld_of_SPECTRE" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Blofeld of SPECTRE">User:Blofeld of SPECTRE</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Jj137" title="User:Jj137">User:Jj137</a>, I have successfully revived the project. Welcome back, we hope to see you there, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Basketball110&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Basketball110 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#00BFFF;">Basketball</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basketball110" title="User talk:Basketball110"><span style="color:#FF8C00;">110</span></a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Basketball110/Quotes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Basketball110/Quotes (page does not exist)"><small><sub><span style="color:#a9a9a9;">what famous people say</span></sub></small></a> ♣ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 2 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Basketball110","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes","replies":[],"displayName":"Basketball"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basketball110-2008-03-02T17:07:00.000Z-French_communes"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"],"text":"Hello","linkableTitle":"Hello"}--><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=172" title="Edit section: Hello"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"],"text":"Hello","linkableTitle":"Hello"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"></span>Bonjour, I leave this message beaucause you should be interssed by the news ! (sorry for my too poor english) I have the idea to do an international meetup in Lyon the 8th december 2008. I don't know if you'ld interessed to come again here, but perhaps you could help me for the translation in english of the bill! <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Rencontre/Rh%C3%B4ne-Alpes" class="extiw" title="fr:Wikipédia:Rencontre/Rhône-Alpes">fr:Wikipédia:Rencontre/Rhône-Alpes</a>. Thanks for the photos, the <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Lyon" class="extiw" title="fr:Projet:Lyon">fr:Projet:Lyon</a> had recategorised all so you could see the result ;) Cordialy <a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) 17:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC) -Lien corrigé <a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Otourly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z-Hello"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"></span>Still me! be carefull this page is in the category Nordic skiing, and I thing it's not wellcome for this wikipédia^^ --<a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Otourly","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T17:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Oui, tu as bien compris c'est cette page qu'il faut traduire, merci d'avance! Je pense que c'est une bonne idée d'organniser une rencontre wikipédia dans une fête populaire! Je suis à toi pour toutes suggestions ou recommandations! Généralement, beaucoup en gardent des souvenirs! <abbr title="Winking face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/18px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/27px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/36px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr>! tu as bien de la chance d'être là bas en été :p il fait plus chaud^^ <a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z","author":"Otourly","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-09T21:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z"></span>It's possible or not? Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z","author":"Otourly","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otourly-2008-04-02T10:53:00.000Z-Otourly-2008-03-11T06:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail","c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"],"text":"Trail","linkableTitle":"Trail"}--><h2 id="Trail" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"></span>Trail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=173" title="Edit section: Trail"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail","c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail","timestamp":"2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Trail-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail","c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"],"text":"Trail","linkableTitle":"Trail"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail"></span>Re: removing the word "Trail" from the template for [<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bicycle_Trails_in_Melbourne">bicycle trails in Melbourne</a>]. I can see that the word appears redundant when all the trails are named in one place. However the word trail is in fact part of their name, eg: </p><p>Refer to top right photo here: <a href="/wiki/Merri_Creek_Trail" title="Merri Creek Trail">Merri Creek Trail</a> and top left photo here <a href="/wiki/Dandenong_Creek_Trail" title="Dandenong Creek Trail">Dandenong Creek Trail</a> </p><p>If the word "trail" stays removed, then an explanation in the heading of the template may help? Currently there are major problems with trail names in Melbourne and I'm trying to foster some consistency re their naming - bit naive of me perhaps. The "Upfield Bike Path" however is not called a trail as you point out - as far as I know it's the only one on the template list. </p><p>This may be of interest: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.boroondarabug.org/wiki/index.php/Trail_names">Trail Names</a> </p><p>A classic case is the <a href="/wiki/Outer_Circle_Trail" title="Outer Circle Trail">Anniversary Trail</a>, which is also called the Outer Circle Trail plus other variants. However the Boroondara City Council has literally a few hundred signs pointing to it that name it the "Anniversary Trail". See photos top of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.boroondarabug.org/">this page.</a> <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.191.112.44" title="Special:Contributions/124.191.112.44">124.191.112.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:124.191.112.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:124.191.112.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","author":"124.191.112.44","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail","replies":["c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z-Trail"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"></span>Hi. I'm really just suggesting removing the word "trail" everywhere in the interests of saving space in the navbox - I would keep it for the article itself. Though I do find it a bit awkward that you end up with links like "Merri Creek", when of course it's a bike path that's being linked to. It might be better to instead group the trails by physical location, and restore the full name - not sure. Also, I don't really like the title of the navbox - "off-road" suggests <a href="/wiki/Off-road" class="mw-redirect" title="Off-road">off-road</a>, like dirt, rocks and rough country, etc. Maybe "Established cycling trails in Melbourne" or something. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2008-03-31T05:12:00.000Z-124.191.112.44-2008-03-31T00:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"></span>Hi Stevage </p><p>In general I agree with what you are saying especially re the off-road bit. How about "Melbourne's network of cycling Trails". I would like to keep the word "network" as the majority are linked to each other and it gives the sense of something bigger than one trail. Not so sure about grouping by physical location. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.191.112.44" title="Special:Contributions/124.191.112.44">124.191.112.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:124.191.112.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:124.191.112.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z","author":"124.191.112.44","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-124.191.112.44-2008-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Trail"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"],"text":"POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page","linkableTitle":"POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page"}--><h2 id="POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z"></span>POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=174" title="Edit section: POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page","timestamp":"2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"],"text":"POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page","linkableTitle":"POV on Boston Redevelopment Authority Page"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"></span>You placed a POV in <a href="/wiki/Boston_Redevelopment_Authority" class="mw-redirect" title="Boston Redevelopment Authority">Boston_Redevelopment_Authority</a> but did not place any info in the talk page as to what you were questioning The edits that I made were sourced and I attempted to show both the past negative and current positive aspects of the Redevelopment authority. Please open a conversation in the talk page and I will attempt to right or support my edits. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Markco1" title="User:Markco1">Markco1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Markco1" title="User talk:Markco1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z","author":"Markco1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Markco1-2008-04-05T03:07:00.000Z-POV_on_Boston_Redevelopment_Authority_Page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter"></span>WikiProject French communes Newsletter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=175" title="Edit section: WikiProject French communes Newsletter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_French_communes_Newsletter","replies":[]}}--></div> <table width="80%" align="center" style="border: 1px black solid; padding: 0em; border-collapse:collapse"> <tbody><tr valign="middle" style="background-color: #DC143C; color:white"> <td width="33%" style="padding:5px" align="left"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png/100px-Wikipedia-logo.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png/150px-Wikipedia-logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> </td> <td width="33%" style="padding:5px" align="center"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Logo_de_la_R%C3%A9publique_fran%C3%A7aise.svg" class="new" title="File:Logo de la République française.svg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="200">File:Logo de la République française.svg</span></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td width="33%" style="padding:5px" align="right"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png/100px-Wikipedia-logo.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png/150px-Wikipedia-logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Wikipedia-logo.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> </td></tr> <tr valign="middle" style="background-color: #4169E1; color:white; text-align:center"> <td colspan="3" style="padding:5px"><big><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes"><span style="color:#3F3964">The French Communes WikiProject</span></a><span style="color:#3F3964;"> Newsletter</span></b></big> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="background-color: #DC143C; color:white; text-align:center;">Volume 1, Issue 2 • April 5, 2008 • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes"><span style="color:white">About the Project</span></a> • Written by: <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Basketball110&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Basketball110 (page does not exist)">Basketball110</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Editorofthewiki" title="User:Editorofthewiki">Editorofthewiki</a> </td></tr> <tr style="vertical-align: top;"> <td> <dl><dt><big>News</big></dt></dl> <p>Project and team news: </p> <ul><li>After an effort by several users including <a href="/wiki/User:AlbertHerring" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AlbertHerring">AlbertHerring</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Basketball110&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Basketball110 (page does not exist)">Basketball110</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Blofeld_of_SPECTRE" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Blofeld of SPECTRE">Blofeld of SPECTRE</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Jj137" title="User:Jj137">Jj137</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Editorofthewiki" title="User:Editorofthewiki">Editorofthewiki</a>, the project is out of inactivity (the removal of the template <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes&diff=195221547&oldid=194016838">here</a>). We have also completed creating the articles on towns. Now we are working on adding infoboxes and demographics to them.</li></ul> </td> <td> <dl><dt><big>Features</big></dt></dl> <p>Featured French commune articles of the week: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Arbellara" title="Arbellara">Arbellara</a>, an example of what a village with 152 inhabitants is supposed to look like.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/French_communes" class="mw-redirect" title="French communes">French communes</a></li></ul> </td> <td> <dl><dt><big>Collaboration of the Month</big></dt></dl> <ul><li>The push for cantons has begun! See <a href="/wiki/Canton_of_Champagne-en-Valromey" title="Canton of Champagne-en-Valromey">Canton of Champagne-en-Valromey</a> for an example of what the canton articles are to look like. We want to get articles on <i>all</i> of them by the end of the month.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="background-color: #efe196; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; border-top:1px"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes/Newsletter/Archives" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes/Newsletter/Archives"><span style="color:white">Archives</span></a> • <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes/Newsletter/Newsroom&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes/Newsletter/Newsroom (page does not exist)"><span style="color:white">Newsroom</span></a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><small>If you would not like to receive this newsletter, please add your name <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes/newsletter/exclude&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes/newsletter/exclude (page does not exist)">here.</a></small> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="center"><small>Delivered by: <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000FF;padding:1px;"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Basketball110&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Basketball110 (page does not exist)"><b><b>Basketball110</b></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basketball110" title="User talk:Basketball110"><span style="color: #FF8C00;background:#FFFFF;"> Talk </span></a> </span></small></small></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"],"text":"Miror of Wikipedia","linkableTitle":"Miror of Wikipedia"}--><h2 id="Miror_of_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z"></span>Miror of Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=176" title="Edit section: Miror of Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia","timestamp":"2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Miror_of_Wikipedia-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"],"text":"Miror of Wikipedia","linkableTitle":"Miror of Wikipedia"}--></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.prescriptiondrug-info.com/drug_information_online.asp?title=User_talk:Stevage"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"></span>It's really bad!</a> I was just searching for english sources for <a href="/wiki/F%C3%AAte_des_lumi%C3%A8res" class="mw-redirect" title="Fête des lumières">Fête des lumières</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Otourly" title="User:Otourly">Otourly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otourly" title="User talk:Otourly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Otourly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otourly-2008-04-05T21:29:00.000Z-Miror_of_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"],"text":"Here we go again","linkableTitle":"Here we go again 2"}--><h2 id="Here_we_go_again_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Here we go again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=177" title="Edit section: Here we go again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Here_we_go_again_2-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"],"text":"Here we go again","linkableTitle":"Here we go again 2"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span>ThePromenader has once again edited the lead of the <a href="/wiki/Paris" title="Paris">Paris</a> article. As a native English speakers, can you tell me if his edit makes any sense to you at all? He replaced this sentence:<br/> "The Paris <i><a href="/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_urbaine" class="mw-redirect" title="Unité urbaine">unité urbaine</a></i> (or <a href="/wiki/Urban_area" title="Urban area">urban area</a>) extends well beyond the administrative city limits and has an estimated population of 9.93 million (in 2005)."<br/> with this sentence:<br/> "Paris as a metropole is can be represented by its <i><a href="/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_urbaine" class="mw-redirect" title="Unité urbaine">unité urbaine</a></i> (or <a href="/wiki/Urban_area" title="Urban area">urban area</a>), as it is an area of unbroken demographic growth that extends over an area thirty times larger than Paris itself; its population is estimated at 9.93 million (in 2005)." </p><p>That has really become an obsession with him. It must be the 127th time he edits this part of the lead. I mean, contrary to you and me who have either created or edited many articles since we've been active here, this guy has contributed little to Wikipedia in general, except an obsessive rewriting of this paragraph in the lead concerning the Paris urban and metropolitan areas, and the end result is a gramatically incorrect sentence which makes things overly complicated for the reader. This is the lead, it should be kept simple. There are dedicated articles (with links) for those who want to find out more about the definitions of urban and metropolitan areas, so why adding unnecessary details in the lead? Apparently he doesn't understand that. It's really frustrating having to deal with this obsessive guy (and as usual I get reams of angry messages from him on my talk page). <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span>I think we're whining here about who's editing, and not about the content - thank you for making this quite clear to us, <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>. Which is clearer: "Much beyond", or "thirty times larger"? What exactly can be your problem with that? Your entire agenda was to present Paris as a unique and thriving metropolis, and my edits were quite in this direction. As usual, your complaints are both misconstrued and blown all out of proportion.</dd> <dd>As usual, as per every post-revert whining campaign, we're down to discussing obvious details that normally are evident in themselves. Do you think that this repeated pattern of stalk/revert would not make one angry? It is incredibly antisocial to say the least, and even your reasons above are not honest nor based in fact - if you don't like the grammar, correct it, but don't complain about that one word only to revert the entire edit. Your approach is completely dishonest. Grow up. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:12:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span>As usual, Stevage, sorry for filling your talk page with things that don't even concern you, but <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>'s complaints, as usual, but amount to dishonest slander. Happy editing to you, wherever you are. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-15T17:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"></span>The first looks fine to me. The second has a number of problems: <ul><li>"Paris as a metropole" - metropole? Is this specialised vocab? Is it necessary? How is "Paris as a metropole" different from "Paris"?</li> <li>"is can be represented" enough said</li> <li>"can be represented by its unité urbaine" - what does that mean, it "can be represented"? Sentences that say what something *is* are much clearer, less ambiguous, and actually mean something. I can be represented by a fish. So what?</li> <li>"as it is an area of unbroken demographic growth " ugh. Ok, Paris can be represented by a UA, because that UA is an area of unbroken demographic growth? Huh? I'm honestly trying to make sense of this sentence, but it's brain hurty.</li> <li>"thirty times larger than Paris itself" - uh, isn't the whole purpose here to define what you mean by "Paris"? Referring back to "Paris itself" isn't helping.</li></ul></dd> <dd>There's nothing particularly complex or hard to grasp about the fact that "Paris" is a somewhat vague notion (like most cities) and can be defined either administratively or demographically. The first sentence does a perfectly adequate job of that. It should probably follow up with a precise definition of the UA, but I don't see any problems stylistically or grammatically with it. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-15T19:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z"></span>You contradict yourself at the same time as you show your lack of knowledge in the subject: you say that a more detailed explanation of the UU is needed, yet "is an area of unbroken demographic growth" is exactly that. The article's former state provides no explanation at all of the sort, which is exactly why I changed it. Nor does the introduction say anything about the differences between political Paris and its actual size as an urban tissue, which would remove much of the vagueness you mention; this also I improved, and it is now removed. As for the grammar - one word. Click. My edit was relatively minor, and you're both making really too much of it - for reasons having little to do with the edit itself. Once again, Hardouin did well to run to you. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T05:04:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-16T02:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span>This is the lead of the article, it's not the place for definitions. It links to the <a href="/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_urbaine" class="mw-redirect" title="Unité urbaine">unité urbaine</a> article and to the <a href="/wiki/Urban_area" title="Urban area">urban area</a> article, where there are all the definitions necessary, so no need to repeat the definitions in the lead. Otherwise I agree with Stevage, the points you highlighted are exactly what I found awkward in TP's 127th rewriting of that part of the lead. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z"></span>This coming from somone who spent <i>years</i> eliminating every reference to the city itself from the Paris article and replacing it with 'information' about a quite fictitious 'Paris metropolitan area'. Stevage doesn't get it, and probably doesn't care; you do, but would rather juggle your pet theories against the ignorance of others, so there's really no point in discussing this any more. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-04-16T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span>The new text as presented to me is virtually incomprehensible. TP's conspiracy theories aside, the old text was better. If one day TP can present some preferred wording which is actually intelligible, maybe we can have a meaningful discussion. Until then, the dispute will continue to fester on as "Hardouin writes the text, TP gets angry about *something*, can't explain what it is, and mangles the text into something that isn't English, and doesn't do Wikipedia any service whatsoever". <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z-Here_we_go_again_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z"></span>The language was something that could be corrected - even though I think you exaggerate your claims of incomprehensibility - and you've got the rest all wrong. The 'old version' is actually of my own writing, so I can have no 'conspiracy' issue there; what makes me angry is that, every time someone edits any Paris-based article, <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> is right there to 'footprint' it or revert it to his 'taste', even though he hasn't touched the article since weeks, even months, in spite of his being asked repeatedly to correct/provide citations for claims that <i>are</i> his writ. Is that clear? This is behaviour both antisocial and unproductive, and changes every little edit into an overblown tit-for-tat battle truely incomprehensible to many; the latter only can treat/understand the 'social' in the problem, and you fall into that category, dear Stevage, which is why Hardouin always comes running to you.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It has since years taken weeks of post-<a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a>-revert (war) discussion and even admin intervention to implement any change to the article. In its year after being appropriated and 'squatted' our friend, it sat as a much-criticised/largely avoided jumble of unsourced and fantastical claims that could be found only on Wikipedia. After much battle, it has progressed to a B-Class article, and one of the only things keeping it from becoming an A-class - or even FA - article is its lack of citations, a problem that <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> categorically refuses to assist. I leave this job to him, as when I have attempted to find sources, or alter phrases for which I could find no source, he was always right there to revert; in doing so he did provide a source, but I frankly don't have the time for his making every edit into a tit-for-tat battle and lengthy discussions.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I know that I am known for 'knotting my knickers' over such issues - and it is largely thanks to that that the article could change at all - but this is but a social issue. What should speak volumes to you is the fact that I have never reverted any edit that wasn't a revert, have never made any edit without improvement in mind, have always sought the aid of only those obviously knowledgable, and have never felt the need to resort to any behind-the-scenes slanderous e-mailing campaigns; the campaigns I <i>have</i> conducted were drives to bring other knowledgable editors to the article, campaigns often ruined by a <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">User:Hardouin</a> - seemingly quite keen on my contributions list - leaving slanderous 'warnings' after any invitation I should make. Any claim that my ranting 'scares others away' is complete bullshit - this claim blithely ignores the fact that a) Wikipedia has a constant flow of new editors not even aware of the article history and that b) I have not edited nor commented the article since months. You have only to glance through the page history for proof of this.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The Paris article remained unchanged (vandalism aside) for months before I even began editing it, and it has remained again unchanged in the months before today; this lack of knowledgable attention, mixed with the biased protectionism of one, that is the reason for all the noise. I was hoping, through my minor edit the other day, that I would see that this problem had gone away, and that I could once again call attention to the article - but, unfortunately, as we can see by this exchange, things remain still the same. <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z-Stevage-2008-04-17T03:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z"></span>Well, you can both go on blaming each other. Or you could find ways to actually contribute productively to Wikipedia. Neither reverting other people's edits (Hardouin), nor replacing carefully worked prose with "something that could be corrected" in order to correct some minor semantic issue (ThePromenader), nor spending a lot of energy bickering and politicking (both of you) is really very beneficial, from the project's point of view. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2008-04-18T06:15:00.000Z-ThePromenader-2008-04-17T07:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"],"text":"Mediawiki markup spec","linkableTitle":"Mediawiki markup spec"}--><h2 id="Mediawiki_markup_spec" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span>Mediawiki markup spec<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=178" title="Edit section: Mediawiki markup spec"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","timestamp":"2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mediawiki_markup_spec-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"],"text":"Mediawiki markup spec","linkableTitle":"Mediawiki markup spec"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"></span>Hello, Stevage. I want to improve the <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec/ANTLR/draft">makrup</a>, but I think that GFDL is not very suitable for software. The initial author (David Gerard) on his user page has a statement, that all his contributions to MediaWiki is released as public domain. In my opinion, it would be better if you also license your changes under some free software license. Thank you for your attention. <a href="/wiki/User:Licorn" title="User:Licorn">Licorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Licorn" title="User talk:Licorn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z","author":"Licorn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Licorn-2008-06-01T11:54:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"></span>Hi, Stevage. I am still waiting for your answer. <a href="/wiki/User:Licorn" title="User:Licorn">Licorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Licorn" title="User talk:Licorn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z","author":"Licorn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Licorn-2008-06-19T16:30:00.000Z-Mediawiki_markup_spec"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"],"text":"TfD nomination of Template:Credit","linkableTitle":"TfD nomination of Template:Credit"}--><h2 id="TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit" data-mw-thread-id="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z"></span>TfD nomination of <a href="/wiki/Template:Credit" title="Template:Credit">Template:Credit</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=179" title="Edit section: TfD nomination of Template:Credit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit","timestamp":"2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"],"text":"TfD nomination of Template:Credit","linkableTitle":"TfD nomination of Template:Credit"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:Credit" title="Template:Credit"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"></span>Template:Credit</a> has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Credit" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion">the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page</a>. Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Longhair" title="User:Longhair">Longhair</a>\<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Longhair" title="User talk:Longhair">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Longhair-2008-07-22T09:49:00.000Z-TfD_nomination_of_Template:Credit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"],"text":"Promenader, for the zillionth time","linkableTitle":"Promenader, for the zillionth time"}--><h2 id="Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time" data-mw-thread-id="h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"><span id="Promenader.2C_for_the_zillionth_time"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"></span>Promenader, for the zillionth time<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=180" title="Edit section: Promenader, for the zillionth time"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"],"text":"Promenader, for the zillionth time","linkableTitle":"Promenader, for the zillionth time"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"></span>Here we go again: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris&diff=prev&oldid=227864428">[14]</a>. Don't you like those? LOL. <a href="/wiki/User:Hardouin" title="User:Hardouin">Hardouin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hardouin" title="User talk:Hardouin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Hardouin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time","replies":["c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z-Promenader,_for_the_zillionth_time"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"></span>Ignore the whining and read the <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paris#Can.27t_we_edit_even_one_phrase_without_User:Hardouin_reverting_it.3F_Or_is_it_something_personal.3F">[15]</a> concerned talk page. Btw, aren't you kind of tired of being treated as an attack dog? <a href="/wiki/User:ThePromenader" title="User:ThePromenader"><span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;color:#ddd7a3;font-size:95%;">THE<span style="color:#aba67e;">PROMENADER</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z","author":"ThePromenader","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThePromenader-2008-07-28T06:03:00.000Z-Hardouin-2008-07-27T21:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"],"text":"RE:Great work","linkableTitle":"RE:Great work"}--><h2 id="RE:Great_work" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z"></span>RE:Great work<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=181" title="Edit section: RE:Great work"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work","timestamp":"2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-RE:Great_work-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"],"text":"RE:Great work","linkableTitle":"RE:Great work"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"></span>Thanks, always nice to hear good things about articles I have contributed to - <a href="/wiki/User:Dumelow" title="User:Dumelow">Dumelow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dumelow" title="User talk:Dumelow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z","author":"Dumelow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dumelow-2008-11-24T08:28:00.000Z-RE:Great_work"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"],"text":"afd-merged-from","linkableTitle":"afd-merged-from"}--><h2 id="afd-merged-from" data-mw-thread-id="h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z"></span>afd-merged-from<span data-mw-comment-end="h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=182" title="Edit section: afd-merged-from"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from","timestamp":"2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-afd-merged-from-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"],"text":"afd-merged-from","linkableTitle":"afd-merged-from"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"></span>FYI, I finally wrote {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merged-from" title="Template:Afd-merged-from">afd-merged-from</a>}}. I wrote a little more at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Afd-mergefrom#Should_template_be_removed_after_performing_the_merge?" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:Afd-mergefrom">Template talk:Afd-mergefrom#Should template be removed after performing the merge?</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Flatscan" title="User:Flatscan">Flatscan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flatscan" title="User talk:Flatscan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Flatscan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flatscan-2009-01-04T00:00:00.000Z-afd-merged-from"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"],"text":"A question","linkableTitle":"A question"}--><h2 id="A_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z"></span>A question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=183" title="Edit section: A question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question","timestamp":"2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_question-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"],"text":"A question","linkableTitle":"A question"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"></span>Let's say we've met before. I believe you have something of mine and I would like it - I will pay you - if you've still got it. It's a chessboard. I suppose it might be fun to catch up as well...for old times' sake. </p><p>I saw your wikipedia page and knew it was you. </p><p>Regards, Kazee <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:OriginalKazee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:OriginalKazee (page does not exist)">OriginalKazee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OriginalKazee" title="User talk:OriginalKazee">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/OriginalKazee" title="Special:Contributions/OriginalKazee">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 29 January 2009 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z","author":"OriginalKazee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OriginalKazee-2009-01-29T04:21:00.000Z-A_question"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"],"text":"DYK for Otto Meiling","linkableTitle":"DYK for Otto Meiling"}--><h2 id="DYK_for_Otto_Meiling" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Otto Meiling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=184" title="Edit section: DYK for Otto Meiling"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling","timestamp":"2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"],"text":"DYK for Otto Meiling","linkableTitle":"DYK for Otto Meiling"}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#February_5_2009" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">February 5, 2009</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Otto_Meiling" title="Otto Meiling">Otto Meiling</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Dravecky" title="User:Dravecky">Dravecky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dravecky" title="User talk:Dravecky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Dravecky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dravecky-2009-02-05T15:09:00.000Z-DYK_for_Otto_Meiling"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"],"text":"Chimango Caracara","linkableTitle":"Chimango Caracara"}--><h2 id="Chimango_Caracara" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z"></span>Chimango Caracara<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=185" title="Edit section: Chimango Caracara"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara","timestamp":"2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chimango_Caracara-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"],"text":"Chimango Caracara","linkableTitle":"Chimango Caracara"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"></span>Hi Steve: I noticed your entry now says "semi-confirmed" as Chimango Caracara. I've passed the photo links (from Picasa) on to Alvaro Jaramillo (author of the <i>Birds of Chile</i> field guide and a good friend) and asked for his comment, and he agrees it's a Chimango. If you want, I can forward the email... <a href="/wiki/User:MeegsC" title="User:MeegsC">MeegsC</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MeegsC" title="User talk:MeegsC">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z","author":"MeegsC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MeegsC-2009-02-06T12:58:00.000Z-Chimango_Caracara"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot"],"text":"Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot","linkableTitle":"Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot"}--><h2 id="Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z"><span id="Articles_you_might_like_to_edit.2C_from_SuggestBot"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z"></span>Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=186" title="Edit section: Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot","timestamp":"2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot"],"text":"Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot","linkableTitle":"Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:SuggestBot" title="User:SuggestBot"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SuggestBot-2009-03-30T18:02:00.000Z-Articles_you_might_like_to_edit,_from_SuggestBot"></span>SuggestBot</a> predicts that you will enjoy editing some of these articles. 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You've made me think about the example, which would be better if drawn from a larger passage in which the two separate sentence stuck out as stubby. I do tend to use semicolons more than most writers, and yes, some writers don't use it at all. I think they miss opportunities to use the full gradation of signals to the reader about the relationship between sentences. On a practical level, semicolons are often the best tool when splitting a sentence that is too long, and joining stubs. And, of course, they function as stronger boundaries between the items in a list-sentence than mere comma, and are usually necessary when one item or more have an <i>internal</i> comma.<a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;"><b>Tony</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tony1-2009-05-01T16:39:00.000Z-Reply" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2009-05-01T16:39:00.000Z-Reply"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-01T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony1-2009-05-01T16:39:00.000Z-Reply","replies":[],"displayName":"Tony"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2009-05-01T16:39:00.000Z-Reply"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z-Reply"></span>Sad-sounding instrument, the pedal piano. Nowadays, electronic keyboards/pedalboards have rendered it obsolete as a practice instrument for organists. Perhaps not so for pedal harpshichords—see <a href="/wiki/Peter_Watchorn" title="Peter Watchorn">Peter Watchorn</a>'s ?about-to-be-released Volume 2 of JS Bach's <i>The well-tempered clavichord</i>, which apparently uses the pedals as a deep, funky foundation line in a number of the works. </p><p>On "may", it does have more uses than to express possibility (a lower likelihood than "might", I've heard it said, but I'm unsure about that). How about no "may" at all? </p> <blockquote><p><i>There are two types of pedal piano: in one type, the pedalboard is an integral part of the instrument, using the same strings and mechanism as the manual keyboard; the other, less common type, consists of two independent pianos, for the hands and feet, respectively.</i></p></blockquote> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;"><b>Tony</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Tony1-2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z-Reply" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z-Reply"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony1-2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z-Reply","replies":[],"displayName":"Tony"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2009-05-02T08:25:00.000Z-Reply"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"],"text":"Talkback","linkableTitle":"Talkback"}--><h2 id="Talkback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z"></span>Talkback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=188" title="Edit section: Talkback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback","timestamp":"2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Talkback-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"],"text":"Talkback","linkableTitle":"Talkback"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edward130603" title="User talk:Edward130603"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Stevage. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edward130603" title="User talk:Edward130603">Edward130603's talk page</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Stevage/archive2" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Stevage/archive2">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div><p>--<b><a href="/wiki/User:Edward130603" title="User:Edward130603">Edward130603</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edward130603" title="User talk:Edward130603">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z","author":"Edward130603","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edward130603-2009-06-05T01:17:00.000Z-Talkback"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"],"text":"Could you help me?","linkableTitle":"Could you help me?"}--><h2 id="Could_you_help_me?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z"><span id="Could_you_help_me.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z"></span>Could you help me?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=189" title="Edit section: Could you help me?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?","timestamp":"2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_you_help_me?-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"],"text":"Could you help me?","linkableTitle":"Could you help me?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"></span>I have an argument with others on disambiguation. I want to add some useful information to <a href="/wiki/ACE" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="ACE">ACE</a>, <a href="/wiki/NME" title="NME">NME</a> and <a href="/wiki/PMF" class="mw-disambig" title="PMF">PMF</a>, but other people always delete them. The link is here: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#need_help_on_ACE_and_NME">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#need_help_on_ACE_and_NME</a> Could you please have a look? Thanks.--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/141.89.77.122" title="Special:Contributions/141.89.77.122">141.89.77.122</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:141.89.77.122" title="User talk:141.89.77.122">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z","author":"141.89.77.122","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-141.89.77.122-2009-06-06T20:57:00.000Z-Could_you_help_me?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="music_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-music_template"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-music_template"></span>music template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-music_template"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=190" title="Edit section: music template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-music_template","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Hello. I'm just following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)#Accidentals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)">Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)#Accidentals</a>. The music template was created so that the characters would be depicted correctly on all browsers and without requiring the user to install any special fonts. Pasting in the unicode character by hand, the character doesn't render on my PC with IE, it just gets rendered as a black square. I know I can use another browser (and I usually do) but the PC/IE combination is too ubiquitous to ignore. The wikitext renders a bit differently, I was curious as to why and I checked... it looks like the music template fixes the font. I'm not an HTML/Unicode expert, though, so I don't know why that was done in the template. Cheers. 02:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)"><span id="DYK_for_Nocturnes_.28Chopin.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)"></span>DYK for Nocturnes (Chopin)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=191" title="Edit section: DYK for Nocturnes (Chopin)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK_for_Nocturnes_(Chopin)","replies":[]}}--></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#June_11_2009" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">June 11, 2009</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Nocturnes_(Chopin)" title="Nocturnes (Chopin)">Nocturnes (Chopin)</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Giants 27 11:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"],"text":"Carnac stones","linkableTitle":"Carnac stones"}--><h2 id="Carnac_stones" data-mw-thread-id="h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Carnac_stones" title="Carnac stones">Carnac stones</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=192" title="Edit section: Carnac stones"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Carnac_stones-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"],"text":"Carnac stones","linkableTitle":"Carnac stones"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"></span>In 2006 (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carnac_stones&diff=52806948&oldid=52806667">[16]</a>) you wrote: </p> <blockquote> <p>In recent centuries, many of the sites have been neglected, with reports of dolmens being used as sheep shelters, chicken sheds or even ovens.[4] Even more commonly, stones have been removed to make way for roads, or as building materials. </p> </blockquote> <p>But I can't see this information on the metioned page (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=9178">4</a>). Now I am seeking for another source (still without any noticeable result). I've read that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=9376">Crucuno dolmen was used as a stable</a> and something like this about <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=9185">two more dolmens</a>. But I haven't found reports that some dolmens or menhirs are/were used as ovens or building materials. Please help me to find sources. Thank you in advance. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dynasha" title="User:Dynasha">Dynasha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dynasha" title="User talk:Dynasha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z","author":"Dynasha","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones","replies":["c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z-Carnac_stones"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the prompt reply and for the help. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dynasha" title="User:Dynasha">Dynasha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dynasha" title="User talk:Dynasha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dynasha-2009-06-20T13:05:00.000Z-Dynasha-2009-06-20T05:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FCyclone_Ingrid"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cyclone Ingrid">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cyclone Ingrid</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=193" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cyclone Ingrid"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Cyclone_Ingrid-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Cyclone_Ingrid"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Cyclone Ingrid","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Cyclone Ingrid"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid"></span>Your response for your comments on this FPC are requested. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Cyclonebiskit" title="User:Cyclonebiskit">Cyclonebiskit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyclonebiskit" title="User talk:Cyclonebiskit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z","author":"Cyclonebiskit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Cyclone_Ingrid","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyclonebiskit-2009-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Cyclone_Ingrid"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"],"text":"NICE interface modification: We need more users!","linkableTitle":"NICE interface modification: We need more users!"}--><h2 id="NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!" data-mw-thread-id="h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z"><span id="NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> interface modification: We need more users!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=194" title="Edit section: NICE interface modification: We need more users!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!","timestamp":"2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"],"text":"NICE interface modification: We need more users!","linkableTitle":"NICE interface modification: We need more users!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"></span>Hello. I am one of the developers of the <a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> tool and the related study's contact person. I hope you have been finding the modification helpful so far. We have been gathering users for a little over a month now, but we haven't gotten as many users as we had hoped. We'd appreciate it if you would share the <a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> tool with any editors that might find it useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">E</a><small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">poch</a></small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">F</a><small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">ail</a></small> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpochFail" title="User talk:EpochFail">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/EpochFail" title="Special:Contributions/EpochFail">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","author":"EpochFail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpochFail-2009-06-29T16:59:00.000Z-NICE_interface_modification:_We_need_more_users!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"],"text":"Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!","linkableTitle":"Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!"}--><h2 id="Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z"><span id="Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=195" title="Edit section: Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!","timestamp":"2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"],"text":"Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!","linkableTitle":"Greetings from the Mountain Biking Task Force!"}--></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"></span>Thank you for your past contributions to one or more of Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Mountain_biking" title="Mountain biking">mountain biking</a>-related articles. Have you considered helping us out at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cycling/Mountain_Biking_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Cycling/Mountain Biking task force">the Mountain Biking task force</a>? It's a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Task_force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Task force">group</a> dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of <a href="/wiki/Mountain_biking" title="Mountain biking">mountain biking</a>.</dd></dl> <p>If you have any questions, please ask at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cycling/Mountain_Biking_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling/Mountain Biking task force">TF's talk page</a>, or feel free to ask me on my talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Andyo2000" title="User:Andyo2000">Andyo2000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andyo2000" title="User talk:Andyo2000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z","author":"Andyo2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andyo2000-2009-07-08T12:25:00.000Z-Greetings_from_the_Mountain_Biking_Task_Force!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"],"text":"Policy page barnstar","linkableTitle":"Policy page barnstar"}--><h2 id="Policy_page_barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"></span>Policy page barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=196" title="Edit section: Policy page barnstar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Policy_page_barnstar-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"],"text":"Policy page barnstar","linkableTitle":"Policy page barnstar"}--></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Great work cleaning up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLICY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLICY">WP:POLICY</a> back in late January, 2006! By my count, you managed to remove remove some 7000 characters and add 2600 characters (much of which survived for a long time). For your efforts towards making one of the original policy pages shorter and clearer, I award you this Original Barnstar. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:M&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:M (page does not exist)"><span style="position:relative;display:inline-block;color:#222;line-height:1.3em;border:1px solid #bbb;"><i style="position:absolute;z-index:-1;bottom:0;width:2.2em;height:8px;background:#eee;"> </i> <b>M</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","author":"M","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar","replies":["c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z-Policy_page_barnstar"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"></span>Aw, shucks. :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2009-08-03T23:41:00.000Z-M-2009-08-03T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"],"text":"2012 Election Need Your Feedback","linkableTitle":"2012 Election Need Your Feedback"}--><h2 id="2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback" data-mw-thread-id="h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z"></span>2012 Election Need Your Feedback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=197" title="Edit section: 2012 Election Need Your Feedback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback","timestamp":"2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"],"text":"2012 Election Need Your Feedback","linkableTitle":"2012 Election Need Your Feedback"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"></span>I noticed you were a regular editor on the 2008 election page. Myself and other editors are odds on some edits we are trying to make to the page. Since you have already been involved in probably similar discussion, we would greatly appreciate hearing your feedback on the 2012 election discussion page under the Republicans and Ruled Out discussions <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Republicans.3F">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Republicans.3F</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:David1982m" title="User:David1982m">David1982m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David1982m" title="User talk:David1982m">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/David1982m" title="Special:Contributions/David1982m">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z","author":"David1982m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David1982m-2009-08-04T20:03:00.000Z-2012_Election_Need_Your_Feedback"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"],"text":"Full version of NICE to be released","linkableTitle":"Full version of NICE to be released"}--><h2 id="Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released" data-mw-thread-id="h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z"></span>Full version of <a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> to be released<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=198" title="Edit section: Full version of NICE to be released"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released","timestamp":"2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"],"text":"Full version of NICE to be released","linkableTitle":"Full version of NICE to be released"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"></span>Thanks for helping me and my colleagues test the <a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> interface modification. Depending on when you installed the tool, you were only presented with a specific subset of the features we have developed. We are ready to roll out the full feature set which, we expect, will make the gadget significantly more useful. Before we do that, we'd like you to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://frost.cs.umn.edu/limesurvey/index.php?sid=79792&lang=en">answer a few questions</a> about your activity in Wikipedia as it relates to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDO">undoing</a> other's edits and what you thought of the NICE features you were shown. </p><p>The survey will ask for your Wikipedia username, but you can participate anonymously if you choose. To do so, <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/EpochFail" title="Special:EmailUser/EpochFail">send me an email</a> with an address I can respond to and I will have the survey software respond with an anonymous token for you to continue. --<a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">E</a><small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">poch</a></small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">F</a><small><a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail">ail</a></small> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpochFail" title="User talk:EpochFail">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/EpochFail" title="Special:Contributions/EpochFail">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z","author":"EpochFail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpochFail-2009-08-24T17:55:00.000Z-Full_version_of_NICE_to_be_released"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/MTB trials penalty","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/MTB trials penalty"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FMTB_trials_penalty"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/MTB trials penalty">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/MTB trials penalty</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=199" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/MTB trials penalty"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty","timestamp":"2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/MTB trials penalty","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/MTB trials penalty"}--></div></div></div> <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border: 1px solid #CC9; background-color: #cfc"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty"></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/75px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" decoding="async" width="75" height="54" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/113px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/150px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2920" data-file-height="2088"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><b>An image created by you has been promoted to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture">featured picture</a> status</b></div> Your image, <b><a href="/wiki/File:MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" title="File:MTB Trials 3 Stevage.jpg">File:MTB Trials 3 Stevage.jpg</a></b>, was nominated on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates</a>, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates</a>. Thank you for your contribution! <a href="/wiki/User:Jjron" title="User:Jjron">jjron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jjron" title="User talk:Jjron">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z","author":"Jjron","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/MTB_trials_penalty","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jjron-2009-09-17T07:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/MTB_trials_penalty"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"],"text":"Third party FPs","linkableTitle":"Third party FPs"}--><h2 id="Third_party_FPs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"></span>Third party FPs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=200" title="Edit section: Third party FPs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Third_party_FPs-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"],"text":"Third party FPs","linkableTitle":"Third party FPs"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"></span>Would you deny me the third party FPs I've nominated? My fungi nominations have a "point" as they allowed me to expand <a href="/wiki/Portal:Fungi" title="Portal:Fungi">Portal:Fungi</a>, which is now featured. I can hold up my <a href="/wiki/File:Danny_Lee_Wynter.jpg" title="File:Danny Lee Wynter.jpg">most recent nomination</a>, even though I neither created it nor edited it, as a prize from the often difficult work dealing with the OTRS submission backlog. FPC should not be about feeding the egos of contributors (though, of course, photographers and restorationists have every reason to be proud) it should be about collecting together free images of high quality that contribute massively to our encyclopedia. <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs","replies":["c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z-Third_party_FPs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"></span>These are good questions. I'm not sure exactly where I draw the line: essentially, I think featured pictures should serve to motivate and reward those who make an effort to contribute images to Wikipedia (so yes, I think they should feed the egos of contributors, if that's what it takes). Your case of extracting a high quality image of a BLP is a good example - it does take effort, and is worth rewarding. But merely trawling US military or NASA images for pretty pics to add to our featured collection seems too cheap...and such a waste of all our time to sit around voting on which are the best.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The case of the fungus FPs seems right on the borderline. Do you think you would have gone to the effort if none of them could be featured? That is, did it motivate you? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T10:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z"></span>I wouldn't have included them in my portal (and thus, the portal would have been lacking and would have not been promoted) if they were not featured- and yes, I may have even given up on it. I certainly see where you're coming from, but I think that a blanket ban on third party FPCs would be poor. Remember also that we use FPs for the main page- as such, any high quality picture is surely a plus, especially when they show such amazing things- as the NASA images do. Would it not seem a little strange that we were featuring some comparatively boring (and often extremely difficult to understand) diagrams, when we have images like <a href="/wiki/File:Cone_Nebula_(NGC_2264)_Star-Forming_Pillar_of_Gas_and_Dust.jpg" title="File:Cone Nebula (NGC 2264) Star-Forming Pillar of Gas and Dust.jpg">this one</a> freely available? NASA is a great example, as they offer the kind of images that Wikipedians could never produce. FPs also exist merely to browse- I often browse them simply from the point of view of looking at amazing images, rather than in any editorial role. Surely, the FP project would be damaged by rejecting images from outside sources? Remember how much Wikipedia depends on outside sources anyway- all of our featured articles are based entirely on other sources, naturally. Yes, that's not the same as just finding a picture and uploading it, obviously, but, again, FPC exists more to recognise the images themselves, rather than their authors. <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T10:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z"></span>Ah, well there I have to disagree with you on two points. <ol><li>"FPs also exist merely to browse- I often browse them simply from the point of view of looking at amazing images" - IMHO, this is really a weak argument for featuring images. There are dozens of pretty picture repositories out there, not least of which is nasa's <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">astronomy pic of the day</a>. That's not really within the scope of Wikipedia's mission.</li> <li>"FPC exists more to recognise the images themselves, rather than their authors" - again, Wikipedia FPC should not be a committee that just votes on the interweb's best images. What's the point? We feature stuff in order to show off Wikipedia's best content, and implicitly to show off its creators. Featured articles are made by Wikipedians. Featured lists, too. Featured portals, yep. Do we even have featured categories now? Now, when we get into featured images that are restorations, we're bending the rules, but that's fine. But once you get to NASA pics - what's the point? It's not our image, and we should have no particular pride in it. Fine, we take it if it adds to our collection, but where does "featuring" NASA's content get us? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T11:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ol> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Well, if it isn't "ours" to feature, why is it "ours" to use? Do you mean to say that, for you, the best possible encyclopedia would not use images from outside sources, no matter their license? <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z-Stevage-2009-09-17T12:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z"></span>I explicitly said it would: "Fine, we take it if it adds to our collection". And I explained what I see as the purpose of featuring: to motivate people to create more high quality content. Featuring external content seems pointless - we could just import the most highly rated photos from Flickr, and feature them all. But why? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2009-09-17T22:11:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2009-09-17T19:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Nardwuar the Human Serviette","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Nardwuar the Human Serviette"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FNardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Nardwuar the Human Serviette">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Nardwuar the Human Serviette</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=201" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Nardwuar the Human Serviette"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette","timestamp":"2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Nardwuar the Human Serviette","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Nardwuar the Human Serviette"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"></span>You commented on this FPC, just wanted to let you know an edited version has been uploaded that might just deal with your comments! <a href="/wiki/User:Staxringold" title="User:Staxringold">Staxringold</a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staxringold" title="User talk:Staxringold">talk</a></sub><sup><span style="position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staxringold" title="Special:Contributions/Staxringold">contribs</a></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Staxringold","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staxringold-2009-09-21T17:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Nardwuar_the_Human_Serviette"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"],"text":"Poker run","linkableTitle":"Poker run"}--><h2 id="Poker_run" data-mw-thread-id="h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Poker run<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=202" title="Edit section: Poker run"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Poker_run-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"],"text":"Poker run","linkableTitle":"Poker run"}--></div></div></div> <div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid #96C896;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:#b8ffe8;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:#80ffff;text-align:center;font-size:14pt;font-weight:bold;color:black;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Fairytale_Trash_No.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Fairytale_Trash_No.svg/40px-Fairytale_Trash_No.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Fairytale_Trash_No.svg/60px-Fairytale_Trash_No.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Fairytale_Trash_No.svg/80px-Fairytale_Trash_No.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:left;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:black;vertical-align:middle"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Wikipedians_who_contribute_to_the_Article_Incubator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Wikipedians who contribute to the Article Incubator (page does not exist)">This user</a> played a significant role in helping <b><a href="/wiki/Poker_run" title="Poker run">Poker run</a></b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Article_Incubator_graduates" title="Category:Article Incubator graduates">graduate</a> from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Incubator" title="Wikipedia:Article Incubator">incubation</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p>First of all, nice work on bringing <a href="/wiki/Poker_run" title="Poker run">Poker run</a> up to standard. Your effort is appreciated. However, I did want to point out a couple things. First, as a minor point, in the incubator we normally have someone who hadn't previously edited the article evaluate it before moving back to mainspace. Setting the template to "status=eval" triggers that to happen. That said, it isn't a big deal that you skipped that step. </p><p>The second problem was a bit more serious. Instead of using the move button, you copied and pasted the text back into mainspace. When you move text like that it brings the attribution chain that is required by our licensing agreements. I have fixed the error, but please keep this in mind for the future. Additionally, when you merge text from one article to another, you must follow the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Help:Merge" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Merge">Help:Merge</a> which mostly means stating where to text is going and coming from in your edit summaries using [[ ]] hyperlinks, and adding <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_merge" title="Template:R from merge">R from merge</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to the newly redirected page. </p><p>Thanks again for your hard work, <a href="/wiki/User:ThaddeusB" title="User:ThaddeusB">ThaddeusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThaddeusB" title="User talk:ThaddeusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","author":"ThaddeusB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run","replies":["c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z-Poker_run"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"></span>We decided on the "one person checks" model as a middle ground of sorts, but see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator#.22Eval.22_status" title="Wikipedia talk:Article Incubator">Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator#.22Eval.22_status</a> where I have reopened the issue for further evaluation. --<a href="/wiki/User:ThaddeusB" title="User:ThaddeusB">ThaddeusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThaddeusB" title="User talk:ThaddeusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z","author":"ThaddeusB","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:44:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2009-09-30T12:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"],"text":"Mount Rushmore FPC nom","linkableTitle":"Mount Rushmore FPC nom"}--><h2 id="Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Dean_Franklin_-_06.04.03_Mount_Rushmore_Monument_(by-sa)-2_new.jpg" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Dean Franklin - 06.04.03 Mount Rushmore Monument (by-sa)-2 new.jpg">Mount Rushmore FPC nom</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=203" title="Edit section: Mount Rushmore FPC nom"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom","timestamp":"2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"],"text":"Mount Rushmore FPC nom","linkableTitle":"Mount Rushmore FPC nom"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"></span>Hi. There's an alternate version of the picture you supported in this nom. I'd appreciate it if you could state a preference for the original or the edit so that I can determine which one to promote. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Makeemlighter" title="User:Makeemlighter">Makeemlighter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Makeemlighter" title="User talk:Makeemlighter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Makeemlighter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makeemlighter-2009-10-03T01:07:00.000Z-Mount_Rushmore_FPC_nom"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous","c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"],"text":"Glabrous","linkableTitle":"Glabrous"}--><h2 id="Glabrous" data-mw-thread-id="h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Glabrous<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=204" title="Edit section: Glabrous"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous","c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous","timestamp":"2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glabrous-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous","c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"],"text":"Glabrous","linkableTitle":"Glabrous"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous"></span>Dear Stevage, I've reverted your edit to <a href="/wiki/Nepenthes_tentaculata" title="Nepenthes tentaculata">Nepenthes_tentaculata</a> and wish to explain why; whilst I can see your issue with the terminology used on that page, it is a standard terminology used in botany and across all technical plant descriptions on Wikipedia. Altering one entry among 120 <i>Nepenthes</i> pages makes that page the odd one out since the term <i>glabrous</i> is used frequently in plant science, and not just for this genus. </p><p>Those people who are interested in actually reading the detailed species descriptions are more than likely to have become familiar with such terminology. Moreover, the meanings of such terms are highly specific; for example your addition of "or bristles" was immediately redundant after the statement that the species has no indumentum. Substituting <i>glabrous</i> for <i>hairless</i> is also inconsistent in the face of the numerous other words that are even more specialised, such as <i>peristome</i>, <i>cordate</i>, <i>amplexicaul</i>, <i>revolute</i>, <i>pinnate</i> or <i>filiform</i>. Unless these are all changed, there is no point changing just one that has a perfectly valid meaning; the great thing about Wikipedia is that each of these unusual adjectives can be linked to their meanings whilst being specific enough for a technical person to know exactly what is being described, where more general adjectives are too vague and therefore insufficient. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Attenboroughii" title="User:Attenboroughii">Attenboroughii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Attenboroughii" title="User talk:Attenboroughii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","author":"Attenboroughii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous","replies":["c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z-Glabrous"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Hi Stevage, right, I see what you were trying to achieve with <i>or bristles</i>. In this context, it reads as an alternative rather than an explanation because indumentum refers collectively to various types of hair (whereas operculum has one specific meaning); would <i>(bristles)</i> in parentheses not read better? My concern then, is that <i>indumentum</i> includes all hair-like coverings including bristles/trichomes/filaments, so explaining it simply as <i>(bristles)</i> restricts the meaning of indumentum to <i>bristles</i>, where <i>(hairs)</i> would be more appropriate; <i>bristles</i> have particular tensile characteristics and are a sub-category of hair, so <i>hairs</i> would be a better explanation of <i>indumentum</i> since it, too, is collective. Would you agree that <i>(hairs)</i> makes for a better compromise? Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Attenboroughii" title="User:Attenboroughii">Attenboroughii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Attenboroughii" title="User talk:Attenboroughii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z","author":"Attenboroughii","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Attenboroughii-2009-10-30T08:52:00.000Z-Attenboroughii-2009-10-29T15:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"></span>I've edited the article to reflect the "hairs" compromise above. The alternative ", or" is syntactically poor as it makes the sentence less clear that it originally was. Unlike the botanist user above, I am non-technical, but find the original description perfectly acceptable. </p><p>The problems of reducing valid systematic terminology vs. jargon have been discussed ad nauseam on WP and the consensus has been to leave technical descriptions in botany, medicine etc. alone where there are no glaring issues, though of course there is room for discourse. </p><p>This is such an example, as the introduction of <i>bristles</i> is misrepresentative. General descriptions are another matter, but this clearly isn't such a description; the casual reader will have little or no experience in telling species of these <i>Nepenthes</i> apart and have little reason to dissect this section - those who care will quickly become <i>au fait</i> with the correct terminology in the way that the web was intended: by clicking through. The article reads more clearly without additional elaboration. </p><p>Incidentally, great pictures of Australia! What a beautiful country. How large is the "solder" crab? <a href="/wiki/User:Jeljen" title="User:Jeljen">Jeljen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jeljen" title="User talk:Jeljen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z","author":"Jeljen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeljen-2009-10-30T11:34:00.000Z-Glabrous"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"],"text":"Proposed deletion of Pervasive Data Integrator","linkableTitle":"Proposed deletion of Pervasive Data Integrator"}--><h2 id="Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Proposed deletion</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pervasive_Data_Integrator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pervasive Data Integrator (page does not exist)">Pervasive Data Integrator</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=205" title="Edit section: Proposed deletion of Pervasive Data Integrator"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"],"text":"Proposed deletion of Pervasive Data Integrator","linkableTitle":"Proposed deletion of Pervasive Data Integrator"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_yellow.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pervasive_Data_Integrator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pervasive Data Integrator (page does not exist)">Pervasive Data Integrator</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <dl><dd><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPAM">Promotional</a> article about a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">non-notable</a> software product. Essentially, this article is just a features list, and as such is a mere sales brochure, and continues to read like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">unambiguous advertising</a>: <i>can automate the integration of data movement tasks on an event-driven, real-time, or regularly scheduled basis....extracts, aggregates, replicates, transforms and loads data from disparate sources, including between very old legacy and mainframe data and applications and new systems.... has a very wide range of connectivity</i>... Referenced only to a press release announcing an acquisition, no substantive coverage; the other references are to internal sites.</b></dd></dl> <p>While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dated_prod" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Dated prod">dated prod</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pervasive_Data_Integrator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Pervasive Data Integrator (page does not exist)">the article's talk page</a>. </p><p>Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dated_prod" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Dated prod">dated prod</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Proposed Deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy Deletion process</a> can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">Articles for Deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Ihcoyc" title="User:Ihcoyc">Smerdis of Tlön</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihcoyc" title="User talk:Ihcoyc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Ihcoyc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator","replies":["c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Smerdis of Tl\u00f6n"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"></span>Sure, but don't blame me - I only wrote one sentence, back in 2006. I've removed the Prod though - I think it deserves a proper hearing, rather than being deleted due to apathy. By all means start an AfD, I for one will not be offended. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2009-11-03T06:12:00.000Z-Ihcoyc-2009-11-02T16:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"],"text":"AfD nomination of Pervasive Data Integrator","linkableTitle":"AfD nomination of Pervasive Data Integrator"}--><h2 id="AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">AfD</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pervasive_Data_Integrator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pervasive Data Integrator (page does not exist)">Pervasive Data Integrator</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=206" title="Edit section: AfD nomination of Pervasive Data Integrator"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator","timestamp":"2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"],"text":"AfD nomination of Pervasive Data Integrator","linkableTitle":"AfD nomination of Pervasive Data Integrator"}--></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/42px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="42" height="37" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/63px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/84px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></span></div><p>An article that you have been involved in editing, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pervasive_Data_Integrator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pervasive Data Integrator (page does not exist)">Pervasive Data Integrator</a>, has been listed for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deletion</a>. 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Thank you.</p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><p>Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. - <a href="/wiki/User:Ihcoyc" title="User:Ihcoyc">Smerdis of Tlön</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihcoyc" title="User talk:Ihcoyc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihcoyc-2009-11-03T12:51:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Pervasive_Data_Integrator"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Articles_for_deletion_nomination_of_Draco.NET-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=208" title="Edit section: Articles for deletion nomination of Draco.NET"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jclemens-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Articles_for_deletion_nomination_of_Draco.NET-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jclemens-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z-Articles_for_deletion_nomination_of_Draco.NET"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Draco.NET" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Draco.NET">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Draco.NET</a>. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.</p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><p>Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. <a href="/wiki/User:Jclemens" title="User:Jclemens">Jclemens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jclemens" title="User talk:Jclemens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jclemens-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z-Articles_for_deletion_nomination_of_Draco.NET" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jclemens-2010-01-23T01:20:00.000Z-Articles_for_deletion_nomination_of_Draco.NET"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z"></span>CfD nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Brazillian jazz singers (page does not exist)">Category:Brazillian jazz singers</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=209" title="Edit section: CfD nomination of Category:Brazillian jazz singers"><span>edit</span></a><span 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Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_March_29#Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 March 29">the discussion page</a>. Thank you. —<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (koavf)</a>❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Koavf-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Koavf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Koavf-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers","replies":[],"displayName":"Justin (koavf)"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-2010-03-29T22:02:00.000Z-CfD_nomination_of_Category:Brazillian_jazz_singers"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Review of closure process 2","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Review of closure process 2"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2FReview_of_closure_process_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=210" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2","timestamp":"2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Review of closure process 2","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/Review of closure process 2"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2"></span>Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Papa_Lima_Whiskey" title="User:Papa Lima Whiskey"><span style="color:#ba0000;">Papa Lima Whiskey</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Papa_Lima_Whiskey" title="User talk:Papa Lima Whiskey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z","author":"Papa Lima Whiskey","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Review_of_closure_process_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Papa_Lima_Whiskey-2010-04-28T12:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Review_of_closure_process_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"],"text":"List of rivers of Egypt","linkableTitle":"List of rivers of Egypt"}--><h2 id="List_of_rivers_of_Egypt" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Egypt" title="List of rivers of Egypt">List of rivers of Egypt</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=211" title="Edit section: List of rivers of Egypt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt","timestamp":"2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"],"text":"List of rivers of Egypt","linkableTitle":"List of rivers of Egypt"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"></span>I was amused by your comments on wikien-l about <a href="/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Egypt" title="List of rivers of Egypt">List of rivers of Egypt</a>. I think if you take a look at the article now you'll be pleasantly surprised. ;-) -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ChrisO&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ChrisO (page does not exist)">ChrisO</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisO&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ChrisO (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z","author":"ChrisO","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChrisO-2010-05-26T20:25:00.000Z-List_of_rivers_of_Egypt"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"],"text":"Chopin Preludes Picture","linkableTitle":"Chopin Preludes Picture"}--><h2 id="Chopin_Preludes_Picture" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"></span>Chopin Preludes Picture<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=212" title="Edit section: Chopin Preludes Picture"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","timestamp":"2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chopin_Preludes_Picture-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"],"text":"Chopin Preludes Picture","linkableTitle":"Chopin Preludes Picture"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"></span>Your picture at <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chopin_theme_op_28.png">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chopin_theme_op_28.png</a> shows an E natural in bar 3 beat 4 RH (carried on from previous accidental. This should be an E flat I believe </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Ronnie268" title="User:Ronnie268">Ronnie268</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ronnie268" title="User talk:Ronnie268">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","author":"Ronnie268","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture","replies":["c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z-Chopin_Preludes_Picture"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I think you're right. I don't have LilyPond and internet in the same place atm, so it will be a while before I can fix this. If you're willing, go ahead -- the lilypond code is on that page. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2010-06-07T01:12:00.000Z-Ronnie268-2010-06-04T11:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"],"text":"You are now a Reviewer","linkableTitle":"You are now a Reviewer"}--><h2 id="You_are_now_a_Reviewer" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z"></span>You are now a Reviewer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=213" title="Edit section: You are now a Reviewer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer","timestamp":"2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"],"text":"You are now a Reviewer","linkableTitle":"You are now a Reviewer"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/130px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="130" height="130" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/195px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/260px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello. Your account has been granted the "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049734">.mw-parser-output .monospaced{font-family:monospace,monospace}</style><span class="monospaced">reviewer</span>" userright, allowing you to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reviewing" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:Reviewing">review other users' edits</a> on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes" title="Wikipedia:Pending changes">two-month trial</a> scheduled to end 15 August 2010. </p><p>Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed">autoconfirmed</a> to articles placed under pending changes. 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More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes" title="Wikipedia:Pending changes">here</a>. </p><p>If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. <a href="/wiki/User:Courcelles" title="User:Courcelles">Courcelles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Courcelles" title="User talk:Courcelles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 19 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z","author":"Courcelles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Courcelles-2010-06-19T17:47:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"],"text":"Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF","linkableTitle":"Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF"}--><h2 id="Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WMF" data-mw-thread-id="h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z"><span id="Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience.2C_revert_communication_and_.2410_to_the_WMF"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z"></span>Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=214" title="Edit section: Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM","timestamp":"2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"],"text":"Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF","linkableTitle":"Interview request: The newbie experience, revert communication and $10 to the WMF"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"></span>I'm concluding the study related to the <a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail/NICE" title="User:EpochFail/NICE">NICE</a> user script (that you installed at some point), and I'd like to ask you some questions about your experiences with and ideas about Wikipedia. The questions will be related to how you interact with new editors and the way you communicate when reverting. The chat should take about 45 minutes to an hour and can happen over phone, voip(skype) or instant messenger(gtalk, ICQ, AIM, etc.). As thanks for your time, I'll donate $10 (US) to the Wikimedia foundation at the completion of the interview. If you are interested or need more information, please <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/EpochFail" title="Special:EmailUser/EpochFail">let me know</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:EpochFail" title="User:EpochFail"><span title="ohai" style="font-variant:small-caps">EpochFail</span></a><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpochFail" title="User talk:EpochFail">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/EpochFail" title="Special:Contributions/EpochFail">work</a>)</sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z","author":"EpochFail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpochFail-2010-07-20T16:41:00.000Z-Interview_request:_The_newbie_experience,_revert_communication_and_$10_to_the_WM"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"],"text":"Unreferenced BLPs","linkableTitle":"Unreferenced BLPs"}--><h2 id="Unreferenced_BLPs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span>Unreferenced BLPs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=215" title="Edit section: Unreferenced BLPs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs","timestamp":"2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Unreferenced_BLPs-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"],"text":"Unreferenced BLPs","linkableTitle":"Unreferenced BLPs"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DASHBot-2010-08-19T08:00:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello Stevage! Thank you for your contributions. I am a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOT">bot</a> notifying you on behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unreferenced_Biographies_of_Living_Persons" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons">the unreferenced biographies team</a> that <b>1</b> of the articles that you created is currently tagged as an<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons"> Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biographies of living persons</a> policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. 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Pollack</a> - <small><span class="plainlinks"><i>Find sources:</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Alan+W.+Pollack%22">Google</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Alan+W.+Pollack%22+-wikipedia">books</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Alan+W.+Pollack%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1">news</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Alan+W.+Pollack%22">scholar</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22Alan+W.+Pollack%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org">free images</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" 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Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LOVE">WikiLove</a> by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy! <br/> </p> What goes around, comes around. 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Otherwise, happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Acalamari" title="User:Acalamari">Acalamari</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Acalamari-2011-01-24T21:45:00.000Z-Autopatrolled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Acalamari-2011-01-24T21:45:00.000Z-Autopatrolled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-24T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Acalamari","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acalamari-2011-01-24T21:45:00.000Z-Autopatrolled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Acalamari-2011-01-24T21:45:00.000Z-Autopatrolled"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"],"text":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Credit","linkableTitle":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Credit"}--><h2 id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">Nomination for deletion</a> of <a href="/wiki/Template:Credit" title="Template:Credit">Template:Credit</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=219" title="Edit section: Nomination for deletion of Template:Credit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit","timestamp":"2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"],"text":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Credit","linkableTitle":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Credit"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Credit" title="Template:Credit">Template:Credit</a> has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Template:Credit" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsaa" title="User:Nsaa">Nsaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsaa" title="User talk:Nsaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Nsaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsaa-2011-02-02T21:48:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Credit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"],"text":"POTD notification","linkableTitle":"POTD notification"}--><h2 id="POTD_notification" data-mw-thread-id="h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z"></span>POTD notification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=220" title="Edit section: POTD notification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification","timestamp":"2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-POTD_notification-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"],"text":"POTD notification","linkableTitle":"POTD notification"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/100px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="72" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/150px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg/200px-MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2920" data-file-height="2088"/></a><figcaption><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_of_the_day/February_2011#February_16_-_Wed" title="Wikipedia:Picture of the day/February 2011">POTD</a></figcaption></figure> <p>Hi Steve, </p><p>Just to let you know that the Featured Picture <a href="/wiki/File:MTB_Trials_3_Stevage.jpg" title="File:MTB Trials 3 Stevage.jpg">File:MTB Trials 3 Stevage.jpg</a> is due to make an appearance as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_of_the_day" title="Wikipedia:Picture of the day">Picture of the Day</a> on February 16, 2011. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at <a href="/wiki/Template:POTD/2011-02-16" title="Template:POTD/2011-02-16">Template:POTD/2011-02-16</a>. <span style="font-family:Verdana;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Howcheng"><span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span></a></b> <small>{<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Howcheng">chat</a>}</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Howcheng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Howcheng-2011-02-15T22:59:00.000Z-POTD_notification"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"],"text":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Chopin works","linkableTitle":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Chopin works"}--><h2 id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">Nomination for deletion</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Chopin_works&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Chopin works (page does not exist)">Template:Chopin works</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=221" title="Edit section: Nomination for deletion of Template:Chopin works"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"],"text":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Chopin works","linkableTitle":"Nomination for deletion of Template:Chopin works"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Chopin_works&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Chopin works (page does not exist)">Template:Chopin works</a> has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Template:Chopin_works" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","author":"Sfan00 IMG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works","replies":["c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Chopin_works"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"></span>Now moved to <a href="/wiki/User:Stevage/Chopin_works" title="User:Stevage/Chopin works">User:Stevage/Chopin works</a>. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Plastikspork" title="User:Plastikspork">Plastikspork</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Plastikspork" title="User talk:Plastikspork"><sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ</sub><sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z","author":"Plastikspork","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Plastikspork-2011-05-14T20:11:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2011-05-04T05:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"],"text":"Query on a new temlate","linkableTitle":"Query on a new temlate"}--><h2 id="Query_on_a_new_temlate" data-mw-thread-id="h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z"></span>Query on a new temlate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=222" title="Edit section: Query on a new temlate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate","timestamp":"2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Query_on_a_new_temlate-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"],"text":"Query on a new temlate","linkableTitle":"Query on a new temlate"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"></span>I have created a new template <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Surajt88/workspace&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Surajt88/workspace (page does not exist)">here</a>. I would much appreciate if you could guide me in creating the documentation for it. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Surajt88" title="User:Surajt88"><span style="font-family:Vivaldi; color:red; font-size:large;"><b>Suraj</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Surajt88" title="User talk:Surajt88"><span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; color:blue; font-size:large;"> <b>T</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 18 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z","author":"Surajt88","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate","replies":[],"displayName":"Suraj"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surajt88-2011-06-18T10:43:00.000Z-Query_on_a_new_temlate"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"],"text":"Wikipedia as work?","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia as work?"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia_as_work?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia_as_work.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia as work?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=223" title="Edit section: Wikipedia as work?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?","timestamp":"2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia_as_work?-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"],"text":"Wikipedia as work?","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia as work?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"></span>Hi, I saw this thread from 2007, <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://markmail.org/message/37jhowstmr2b7gll#query:+page:1+mid:37jhowstmr2b7gll+state:results">http://markmail.org/message/37jhowstmr2b7gll#query:+page:1+mid:37jhowstmr2b7gll+state:results</a>, where you (?) and some other guys discussed wikipedia as work. If you still have ideas on this or if you know of any discussions about this, perhaps a new thread I can read, pls post it on my discussion page (on English or Swedish wp-page). I think there should be wikipedia-centers in Africa where students can work and get paid by hour or something like that. For 1. Participating in a course. 2. Make some articles and participate in other ways. 3. Go out in schools and inform. (it could be paid with donations, aid, and/or their state own money). I also think that there should be a formalisation of wikipedia-information-workers, and that these should be paid when going to schools and university, and that it should be seen as a complement to the teachers, which seldom is wikipedia-experts. What do u say? Regards m. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mats33" title="User:Mats33">Mats33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mats33" title="User talk:Mats33">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Mats33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mats33-2011-08-30T22:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia_as_work?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Page_Patrol_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Page_Patrol_survey"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Page_Patrol_survey"></span>New Page Patrol survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Page_Patrol_survey"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=224" title="Edit section: New Page Patrol survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-New_Page_Patrol_survey","replies":[]}}--></div> <table style="background-color: #dfeff3; border: 4px solid #bddff2; width:100%" cellpadding="5"> <tbody><tr> <td><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:NPPbarnstar.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/70px-NPPbarnstar.jpg" decoding="async" width="70" height="67" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/105px-NPPbarnstar.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/140px-NPPbarnstar.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><big><b>New page patrol – <i>Survey Invitation</i></b></big> </p> <hr/> <p>Hello Stevage! The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WMF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WMF">WMF</a> is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you. </p> <ul><li>If this invitation also appears on other accounts you may have, please complete the survey once only. </li> <li>If this has been sent to you in error and you have never patrolled new pages, please ignore it.</li></ul> <p><b>Please click <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9RSKYC9">HERE</a> to take part.</b><br/> Many thanks in advance for providing this essential feedback. </p> <hr/> <p><small>You are receiving this invitation because you have patrolled new pages. For more information, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Survey" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Survey">NPP Survey</a>. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery">Global message delivery</a> 13:25, 26 October 2011 (UTC)</small> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"],"text":"Exposing to the right","linkableTitle":"Exposing to the right"}--><h2 id="Exposing_to_the_right" data-mw-thread-id="h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"></span>Exposing to the right<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=225" title="Edit section: Exposing to the right"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Exposing_to_the_right-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"],"text":"Exposing to the right","linkableTitle":"Exposing to the right"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"></span>Hi Stevage! I have recently re-written <a href="/wiki/Exposing_to_the_right" title="Exposing to the right">Exposing to the right</a> and would appreciate some feedback, if you have the time. Even a cursory glance to see if I've made any glaring errors would be enough. Thank you in advance. </p><p>By the way, this talk page is <i>enormous</i> and takes quite a while to load! Perhaps you should look into archiving some of its contents. Just a thought. <b>;-)</b> Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Nagualdesign" title="User:Nagualdesign">nagualdesign</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nagualdesign" title="User talk:Nagualdesign">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","author":"Nagualdesign","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right","replies":["c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z-Exposing_to_the_right"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"></span>Really interesting work. I had actually thought in retrospect that the technique was of marginal importance and not really worthy of an article in its own right - perhaps a paragraph or two in an article about digital sensors, or something. Your edit convinces me otherwise - so, well done. :) One thing you might consider adding is clarifying early in the article that it's a <i>temporary</i> overexposure, that will be corrected in postprocessing. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T09:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the feedback, Stevage. And for the kind words. <b>:-)</b> I had carefully considered the phrase <i>"ETTR images may appear to be overexposed until they are correctly processed"</i>, but perhaps I'd focussed too much on the words <i>"may appear"</i> and not clarified the fact that images <i>will</i> require processing. I'll fix that. If you could keep an eye on the article I'd appreciate it. Kind regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Nagualdesign" title="User:Nagualdesign">nagualdesign</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nagualdesign" title="User talk:Nagualdesign">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Nagualdesign","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nagualdesign-2011-11-26T20:42:00.000Z-Stevage-2011-11-26T10:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\""],"text":"Stevage, the word's \"behavior\", not \"behaviour\"","linkableTitle":"Stevage, the word's \"behavior\", not \"behaviour\""}--><h2 id="Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z"><span id="Stevage.2C_the_word.27s_.22behavior.22.2C_not_.22behaviour.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z"></span>Stevage, the word's "behavior", not "behaviour"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=226" title="Edit section: Stevage, the word's "behavior", not "behaviour""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","timestamp":"2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\""],"text":"Stevage, the word's \"behavior\", not \"behaviour\"","linkableTitle":"Stevage, the word's \"behavior\", not \"behaviour\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""></span>Dear Stevage, </p><p>I have to say, Stevage, that the word's "behavior", not "behaviour". So why do you spell the word "behavior" as "behaviour"? Are you a Canadian? A British Wikipedian? Where <i><b><u>exactly</u></b></i> are you from? </p><p>Sincerely, <a href="/wiki/User:3.14159265358pi" title="User:3.14159265358pi">3.14159265358pi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3.14159265358pi" title="User talk:3.14159265358pi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z","author":"3.14159265358pi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3.14159265358pi-2011-11-29T22:46:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""></span>{{Remember to copy this section before saving it, then paste it to <a href="/wiki/User_talk:3.14159265358pi" title="User talk:3.14159265358pi">my talk page</a>, but don't copy this line!}} </p> <dl><dd>No idea what inspired this comment. Yes, different varieties of English spell such words differently. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_\"behavior\",_not_\"behaviour\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2011-11-30T06:30:00.000Z-Stevage,_the_word's_"behavior",_not_"behaviour""></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"],"text":"Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted","linkableTitle":"Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted"}--><h2 id="Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers_wanted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z"><span id="Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot.2C_script.2C_template.2C_and_Gadget_makers_wanted"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=227" title="Edit section: Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers","timestamp":"2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"],"text":"Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted","linkableTitle":"Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"></span>I invite you to the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012" class="extiw" title="mw:Berlin Hackathon 2012">yearly Berlin hackathon</a>, 1-3 June. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wmberlin.eventbrite.com/">Registration is now open</a>. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wmberlin.eventbrite.com/">the registration form</a>. </p><p>This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader" class="extiw" title="mw:ResourceLoader">ResourceLoader</a> and Gadgets (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen" class="extiw" title="mw:Gadget kitchen">extending functionality with JavaScript</a>), the switch to <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting" class="extiw" title="mw:Lua scripting">Lua for templates</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata">Wikidata</a>, and <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Labs">Wikimedia Labs</a>. </p><p>We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come! </p><p>I also thought you might want to know about <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki developer meetings">other upcoming events</a> where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API" class="extiw" title="mw:API">web API</a> for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing. </p><p>Check out the the <a href="https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon" class="extiw" title="wm2012:Hackathon">developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC</a> and <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki developer meetings">our other events</a>. </p><p>Best wishes! - <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah" class="extiw" title="mw:User:Sumanah">Sumana Harihareswara</a>, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Sumanah" class="extiw" title="mw:User talk:Sumanah">at mediawiki.org</a>. <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah" class="extiw" title="mw:User:Sumanah">Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z","author":"Sumanah","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers","replies":[],"displayName":"Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sumanah-2012-04-04T02:26:00.000Z-Invitation_to_events_in_June_and_July:_bot,_script,_template,_and_Gadget_makers"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"],"text":"Needing Wiki contribution assistance!","linkableTitle":"Needing Wiki contribution assistance!"}--><h2 id="Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z"><span id="Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z"></span>Needing Wiki contribution assistance!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=228" title="Edit section: Needing Wiki contribution assistance!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!","timestamp":"2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"],"text":"Needing Wiki contribution assistance!","linkableTitle":"Needing Wiki contribution assistance!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"></span>Greetings Stevage, </p><p>I am looking for an experienced Wikipedian to contribute an article for our band Mr. Meeble. I have checked and we meet the Wikipedia "notability" guidelines for a band. We have a very basic Wikipedia article written already, but I know that someone like yourself may be able to point out our formatting errors and critical omissions. You can hear our music and see our videos here:<br/> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://youtube.com/mrmeeble">http://youtube.com/mrmeeble</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://soundcloud.com/meeble">http://soundcloud.com/meeble</a><br/> </p><p>Let me know if you would be willing to help!<br/> </p><p>Regards,<br/> Devin<br/> mm @ meeble.com<br/> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Devbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Devbot">Devbot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Devbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Devbot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z","author":"Devbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Devbot-2012-06-12T04:11:00.000Z-Needing_Wiki_contribution_assistance!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)"],"text":"Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)","linkableTitle":"Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)"}--><h2 id="Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z"><span id="Credo_Reference_Update_.26_Survey_.28your_opinion_requested.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z"></span>Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=229" title="Edit section: Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)","timestamp":"2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)"],"text":"Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)","linkableTitle":"Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Credo_Reference" title="Credo Reference"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)"></span>Credo Reference</a>, who generously <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CREDO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CREDO">donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts</a> to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that: </p> <ul><li>Link to Survey (should take between 5-10 minutes): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N8FQ6MM">http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N8FQ6MM</a></li></ul> <p>It also asks some basic questions about what you like about the Credo program and what you might want to improve. </p><p>At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RESOURCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RESOURCE">WikiProject Resource Exchange</a>). </p><p>Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot. </p><p>If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Ocaasi" title="User:Ocaasi">Ocaasi</a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ocaasi" title="User talk:Ocaasi">t </a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ocaasi" title="Special:Contributions/Ocaasi"> c</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ocaasi-2012-07-11T17:33:00.000Z-Credo_Reference_Update_&_Survey_(your_opinion_requested)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord pano.jpg"}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates.2Fdelist.2FFile:Chambord_pano.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/File:Chambord pano.jpg">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/File:Chambord pano.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=230" title="Edit 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord_pano.jpg-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord_pano.jpg"],"text":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord pano.jpg","linkableTitle":"Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord pano.jpg"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg"></span>Hi- just to let you know that I have nominated a featured picture for delisting which was originally nominated by you. <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/delist\/File:Chambord_pano.jpg","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2012-11-14T00:04:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/File:Chambord_pano.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wingan_Inlet_Edit-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit"],"text":"Wingan Inlet Edit","linkableTitle":"Wingan Inlet Edit"}--><h2 id="Wingan_Inlet_Edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wingan_Inlet_Edit-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wingan_Inlet_Edit-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z"></span>Wingan Inlet Edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wingan_Inlet_Edit-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=231" title="Edit section: Wingan Inlet 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Edit"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit"></span>Thank you Stevage for your recent review of my contributions: your adjustment was a good call. I'm kind of proud as a newbie that you made so little adjustment! Howe ver u r helping me to improve. I just wanted to advise that I have updated the page again, and would prefer if you reviewed it again for me - Timmy2much (Tim Heydon, Melbourne Australia) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Timmy2much&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Timmy2much (page does not exist)">Timmy2much</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timmy2much" title="User talk:Timmy2much">talk</a>) 04:46, 15 November 2012 (UTC) Stevage thx for such a quick response. The 'section" heading thing is cool an a new skill I can include in future articles - I'll review the code to understand it. The edit i just did is just minor, as is for accuracy <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Timmy2much&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Timmy2much (page does not exist)">Timmy2much</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timmy2much" title="User talk:Timmy2much">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 15 November 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z","author":"Timmy2much","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timmy2much-2012-11-15T04:46:00.000Z-Wingan_Inlet_Edit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for January 29","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for January 29"}--><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for January 29<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=232" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for January 29"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29","timestamp":"2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for January 29","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for January 29"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2013-01-29T11:34:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_29"></span>Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited <a href="/wiki/SCODY_3_Peaks_Challenge" class="mw-redirect" title="SCODY 3 Peaks Challenge">SCODY 3 Peaks Challenge</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Falls_Creek" class="mw-disambig" title="Falls Creek">Falls Creek</a> (<a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/SCODY_3_Peaks_Challenge" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/SCODY 3 Peaks Challenge">check to confirm</a> | <a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/SCODY_3_Peaks_Challenge" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab solver.py/SCODY 3 Peaks Challenge">fix with Dab solver</a>). 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I noticed the description page specifies that this media item is being used under a claim of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">fair use</a>, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria">first non-free content criterion</a> in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media item could be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. 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You can find a list of description pages you have edited by clicking on <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Stevage&namespace=6">this link</a></span>. Note that even if you follow steps 1 and 2 above, non-free media which could be replaced by freely licensed alternatives will be deleted 2 days after this notification (7 days if uploaded before 13 July 2006), per the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria">non-free content policy</a>. If you have any questions, please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:TGV_duplex.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:TGV_duplex.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Sfan00 IMG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:TGV_duplex.png","replies":["c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:TGV_duplex.png"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I think you're right. Funny, when I read the "7 days if uploaded before 13 July 2006", my first thought was "as if there's any infringing images that old around!" Oops - I did indeed upload that picture in May 2006. Anyway, I'm not going to replace it, so I guess it will just be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2013-02-02T04:36:00.000Z-Sfan00_IMG-2013-02-01T19:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for February 5","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for February 5"}--><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for February 5<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=234" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for February 5"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5","timestamp":"2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for February 5","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for February 5"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"></span>Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited <a href="/wiki/Tour_Divide" title="Tour Divide">Tour Divide</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/SPOT" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="SPOT">SPOT</a> (<a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Tour_Divide" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Tour Divide">check to confirm</a> | <a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Tour_Divide" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab solver.py/Tour Divide">fix with Dab solver</a>). 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z","author":"DPL bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5","replies":[],"displayName":"opt-out instructions"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2013-02-05T11:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_5"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"],"text":"ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup","linkableTitle":"ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup"}--><h2 id="ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z"></span>ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=235" title="Edit section: ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup","timestamp":"2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"],"text":"ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup","linkableTitle":"ANTLR grammar for Mediawiki markup"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"></span>I'm interested in turning your ANTLR parser for mediawiki markup (from <a class="external free" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec/ANTLR/draft">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec/ANTLR/draft</a> ) into a JavaScript parser for an offline mediawiki reader. The cited page says to contact you before hacking on it. So I am! Feel free to drop me an email if you've got a later version. (My email address is at the bottom of <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://cscott.net">http://cscott.net</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Cananian" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cananian">C. Scott Ananian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cananian" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Cananian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Cananian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup","replies":[],"displayName":"C. Scott Ananian"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cananian-2013-02-09T20:08:00.000Z-ANTLR_grammar_for_Mediawiki_markup"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"],"text":"Lamington National Park","linkableTitle":"Lamington National Park"}--><h2 id="Lamington_National_Park" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span>Lamington National Park<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=236" title="Edit section: Lamington National Park"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park","timestamp":"2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lamington_National_Park-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"],"text":"Lamington National Park","linkableTitle":"Lamington National Park"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"></span>I really wish you hadn't. Wikipedia is not a collection of photos. That is what Wikicommons is for. The article had more than enough photos down the right-hand side. I notice some of the photos are yours. You seem to placing too much value on them. Galleries are only appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images. Which images have been carefully selected, the one of some random ferns or random animals? We don't need a photo of a common bush turkey or someone feeding the birds to explain their occurrence. </p><p>Your galleries wreck the page. It looks awful with the text broken up like that. I notice that <a href="/wiki/Yellowstone_National_Park" title="Yellowstone National Park">Yellowstone National Park</a> which is a featured article has no image galleries. None of the editors of that page agree with you. How about <a href="/wiki/Yosemite_National_Park" title="Yosemite National Park">Yosemite National Park</a> another featured article? Any tacky image galleries there? Please remove them, they don't belong. - <a href="/wiki/User:Shiftchange" title="User:Shiftchange">Shiftchange</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shiftchange" title="User talk:Shiftchange">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z","author":"Shiftchange","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shiftchange-2013-02-18T07:36:00.000Z-Lamington_National_Park"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for February 18","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for February 18"}--><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for February 18<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=237" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for February 18"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18","timestamp":"2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18"],"text":"Disambiguation link notification for February 18","linkableTitle":"Disambiguation link notification for February 18"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2013-02-18T11:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_18"></span>Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited <a href="/wiki/Lamington_National_Park" title="Lamington National Park">Lamington National Park</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Pencil_Cedar" class="mw-redirect" title="Pencil Cedar">Pencil Cedar</a> (<a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Lamington_National_Park" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Lamington National Park">check to confirm</a> | <a href="//toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Lamington_National_Park" class="extiw" title="tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab solver.py/Lamington National Park">fix with Dab solver</a>). 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Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:GeorgianJorjadze" class="mw-redirect" title="User:GeorgianJorjadze">georgian<small>JORJADZE</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-GeorgianJorjadze-2013-08-19T18:26:00.000Z-Please_comment_on_Georgia_(country)_to_Georgia_move_suggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeorgianJorjadze-2013-08-19T18:26:00.000Z-Please_comment_on_Georgia_(country)_to_Georgia_move_suggestion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T18:26:00.000Z","author":"GeorgianJorjadze","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GeorgianJorjadze-2013-08-19T18:26:00.000Z-Please_comment_on_Georgia_(country)_to_Georgia_move_suggestion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeorgianJorjadze-2013-08-19T18:26:00.000Z-Please_comment_on_Georgia_(country)_to_Georgia_move_suggestion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"],"text":"Does this js still work?","linkableTitle":"Does this js still work?"}--><h2 id="Does_this_js_still_work?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"><span id="Does_this_js_still_work.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"></span>Does this js still work?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=239" title="Edit section: Does this js still work?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Does_this_js_still_work?-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"],"text":"Does this js still work?","linkableTitle":"Does this js still work?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"></span>I'm checking if the scripts here still work: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Greasemonkey_user_scripts" title="Wikipedia:Tools/Greasemonkey user scripts">Wikipedia:Tools/Greasemonkey_user_scripts</a> </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stevage/EnhanceHistory.user.js">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stevage/EnhanceHistory.user.js</a> </p><p>Yours was last updated March 2006, I'm to lazy to test it. If it still works, could you put the date you've lasted tested it on the page? </p><p>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81" title="Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81">84.106.26.81</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:84.106.26.81" title="User talk:84.106.26.81">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","author":"84.106.26.81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?","replies":["c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z-Does_this_js_still_work?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"></span>You're very funny. Why would I test it for you? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2013-08-23T00:07:00.000Z-84.106.26.81-2013-08-21T10:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter"],"text":"Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter","linkableTitle":"Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter"}--><h2 id="Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span>Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=240" title="Edit section: Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter","timestamp":"2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Interior-2013-10-27T21:00:00.000Z-Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter"],"text":"Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter","linkableTitle":"Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter"}--></div></div></div> <div style="border: 2px dashed #ADC2E4; 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I have automatically detected that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=583591963">your edit</a> to <a href="/wiki/Rokeby_to_Crossover_Rail_Trail" title="Rokeby to Crossover Rail Trail">Rokeby to Crossover Rail Trail</a> may have broken the <a href="/wiki/Syntax" title="Syntax">syntax</a> by modifying 1 "[]"s. If you have, don't worry: just <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rokeby_to_Crossover_Rail_Trail&action=edit&minor=minor&summary=Fixing+typo+raised+by+%5B%5BUser%3ABracketBot%7CBracketBot%5D%5D">edit the page</a> again to fix it. 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style="margin-bottom:0;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-17T10:33:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking" class="mw-redirect" title="Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking">Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking</a> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p> Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div><p>--<b><a href="/wiki/User:Jetstreamer" title="User:Jetstreamer">Jetstreamer</a></b> <i><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jetstreamer#top" title="User talk:Jetstreamer">Talk</a></sup></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-17T10:33:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-17T10:33:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#26_February_2014" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">26 February 2014</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking" class="mw-redirect" title="Ethiopian Airlines Flight 702 hijacking">Ethiopian Airlines Flight 702 hijacking</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking" class="mw-redirect" title="Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking">Ethiopian Airlines Flight 702</a></b> was hijacked by the co-pilot?</i> You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201402/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking">quick check</a>)</small> and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table><p> Thanks for your article from the DYK project <a href="/wiki/User:Victuallers" title="User:Victuallers">Victuallers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victuallers" title="User talk:Victuallers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Victuallers-2014-02-26T10:23:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 26 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victuallers-2014-02-26T10:23:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-26T10:23:00.000Z","author":"Victuallers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Victuallers-2014-02-26T10:23:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victuallers-2014-02-26T10:23:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_702_hijacking"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"],"text":"re: protein crystallography redirects","linkableTitle":"re: protein crystallography redirects"}--><h2 id="re:_protein_crystallography_redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"></span>re: protein crystallography redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=245" title="Edit section: re: protein crystallography redirects"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"],"text":"re: protein crystallography redirects","linkableTitle":"re: protein crystallography redirects"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"></span>Hello — In 2009, you updated the redirect title <a href="/wiki/Protein_crystallography" class="mw-redirect" title="Protein crystallography">Protein crystallography</a> to make the target more specific, that is, to redirect to a particular section within the target article. There exists a second redirect to the same target, <a href="/wiki/Protein_Crystallography" class="mw-redirect" title="Protein Crystallography">Protein Crystallography</a>, which wasn't updated. I'm thinking of making the same update to that second redirect, too, so that once again the two will behave uniformly. Can you think of any reason <i>not</i> to do that? An outside Website which links to the non-specific title will suddenly show different behavior, but will also show more appropriate content. Is there a scenario where such a change would be undesirable? Thanks for any perspective you can offer. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.181.30.121" title="Special:Contributions/50.181.30.121">50.181.30.121</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.181.30.121" title="User talk:50.181.30.121">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","author":"50.181.30.121","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects","replies":["c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z-re:_protein_crystallography_redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"></span>Please go for it :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevage" title="User talk:Stevage">Stevage</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z","author":"Stevage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z-50.181.30.121-2014-05-01T01:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.181.30.121" title="Special:Contributions/50.181.30.121">50.181.30.121</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.181.30.121" title="User talk:50.181.30.121">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.181.30.121-2014-05-02T01:43:00.000Z-Stevage-2014-05-01T01:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you have not seen, I responded to your comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Heritage_Action#Proposed_revision_for_this_article" title="Talk:Heritage Action">Talk:Heritage Action</a> earlier this week and just a few days ago I went ahead and updated my <a href="/wiki/User:Morzabeth/Heritage_Action" title="User:Morzabeth/Heritage Action">Heritage Action draft</a> to incorporate a few of your suggestions. </p><p>I would like to continue this discussion on the Talk page and work towards a version of my draft that we are all comfortable with so we can update the current page. I hope you'll have the time to take a look at my draft again and let me know if you see any other specific issues. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Morzabeth" title="User:Morzabeth">Morzabeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Morzabeth" title="User talk:Morzabeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Morzabeth-2014-08-15T21:09:00.000Z-Heritage_Action" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 15 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Morzabeth-2014-08-15T21:09:00.000Z-Heritage_Action"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-15T21:09:00.000Z","author":"Morzabeth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Morzabeth-2014-08-15T21:09:00.000Z-Heritage_Action","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Morzabeth-2014-08-15T21:09:00.000Z-Heritage_Action"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"],"text":"Fields Medal page","linkableTitle":"Fields Medal page"}--><h2 id="Fields_Medal_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z"></span>Fields Medal page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stevage/archive2&action=edit&section=249" title="Edit section: Fields Medal page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page","timestamp":"2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fields_Medal_page-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"],"text":"Fields Medal page","linkableTitle":"Fields Medal page"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"></span>Hello there,I'm that user who's been the victim of editing the Fields Medal page(i.e.I got blocked with charge of Vandalism.).I've got three question:1)When the current protected status of that page ends,Does the page current contents remain in place or they are replaced with the old version? 2)I've prepared a new and somehow comprehensive table about Fields medalists.I posted this table on the discussion section of the Fields Medal page,and I request for comments about this(If You come there and see my that table I will be really glad,and don't forget to put your comment about it down there!;-)),but so far,just one person did so.Is it normal? 3)Should I submit a request for edit to replace the new table with current one?Or should I wait for reaching a consensus?Thank You. Rezameyqani (talk) 07:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<a href="/wiki/User:Rezameyqani" title="User:Rezameyqani">Rezameyqani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rezameyqani" title="User talk:Rezameyqani">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stevage/archive2#c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 19 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z","author":"Rezameyqani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rezameyqani-2014-08-19T08:28:00.000Z-Fields_Medal_page"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐7494d5f4d9‐566j8 Cached time: 20241121201457 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.421 seconds CPU time usage: 1.347 seconds Real time usage: 1.745 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 4814/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 47275/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 13271/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 1/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 4647/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.051/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1879547/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 241.129 1 -total 33.88% 81.684 1 Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/To_do 32.84% 79.187 1 Template:To_do 30.55% 73.661 1 Template:Mbox 16.52% 39.827 1 Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/To_do/Contents 9.58% 23.102 1 Template:WikiProject_cleanup_listing 9.56% 23.055 1 Template:User_Incubator_Graduate 8.19% 19.744 1 Template:Userbox 6.48% 15.625 4 Template:Center 6.35% 15.309 2 Template:User --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:43601203-0!canonical and timestamp 20241121201457 and revision id 1149970246. 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