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After a marketing and pastoring career, the Lord led him uniquely to ECFA as the Executive Administrator to the President. Harold exudes joyous serving while also exhorting ECFA staff towards healthy leadership. Michael and Harold talk candidly about their professional, personal, and spiritual dynamic as humility, honor, and legacy overlap.</p><p>Find out more ab...</p></div> <style data-emotion="css 1t8gq41">.css-1t8gq41{border:none;background-image:none;background-color:transparent;box-shadow:none;color:#2F3133;cursor:pointer;font-size:inherit;padding:0;-webkit-text-decoration:inherit;text-decoration:inherit;width:-webkit-max-content;width:-moz-max-content;width:max-content;}.css-1t8gq41:hover,.css-1t8gq41:focus{-webkit-text-decoration:inherit;text-decoration:inherit;}</style><button class="css-1t8gq41 ehd7kj20" data-test="nav-link"> <!-- -->Read more</button></div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 4.70915 11.7405 4.28013L8.33472 0.428615Z" fill="#3F4447"></path><path d="M0 9.06873C0 8.03722 0.84082 7.21605 1.86035 7.21605H4C4.55225 7.21605 5 7.66377 5 8.21605C5 8.76834 4.55225 9.21605 4 9.21605H2V21H14V9.21605H12C11.4478 9.21605 11 8.76834 11 8.21605C11 7.66377 11.4478 7.21605 12 7.21605H14.1401C15.1594 7.21605 16 8.03759 16 9.06873V21.1478C16 22.1788 15.1592 23 14.1401 23H1.86035C0.841309 23 0 22.1792 0 21.1478V9.06873Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Share</div></div></button><div data-test="podcast-mark-as-played" class="css-1m2npzy e13vi74n0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 20 20" width="20"><path d="M15.2975 6.29251C14.9072 5.89941 14.2717 5.89829 13.88 6.29L8 12.17L5.11549 9.29352C4.7257 8.90482 4.09474 8.90526 3.70549 9.29451C3.31586 9.68414 3.31586 10.3159 3.70549 10.7055L7.54545 14.5455C7.79649 14.7965 8.20351 14.7965 8.45455 14.5455L15.295 7.705C15.6848 7.31524 15.6859 6.68365 15.2975 6.29251ZM10 0C4.48 0 0 4.48 0 10C0 15.52 4.48 20 10 20C15.52 20 20 15.52 20 10C20 4.48 15.52 0 10 0ZM10 18C5.58 18 2 14.42 2 10C2 5.58 5.58 2 10 2C14.42 2 18 5.58 18 10C18 14.42 14.42 18 10 18Z" fill="#000000"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Mark as Played</div></div></div><div data-test="podcast-play-progress" class="css-i5ai75 egwgilq0"></div></div></div><div class="css-ryp8vm ehbvdpp0"><div data-test="podcast-episode-card" class="css-1rnml96 emliuun0"><div class="css-1927myz e12f98q00"><div class="css-1rep9g8 e1rsh1tc0"><button class="css-4hf0t5 ebe59710" data-test="play-button" data-test-state="paused" type="button"><span aria-label="Play" class="SVGInline SVGInline--cleaned css-1u7b33j e1md4my70"><svg class="SVGInline-svg SVGInline--cleaned-svg css-1u7b33j-svg e1md4my70-svg" fill="#FFFFFF" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="256 908 100 100"><style></style><path d="M272.6 912.3l69.9 44c1.8 1.1 1.8 3.7 0 4.8l-69.9 44c-1.9 1.2-4.3-.2-4.3-2.4v-87.9c0-2.3 2.5-3.7 4.3-2.5z"/></svg></span></button></div><div data-test="podcast-episode-name" class="css-hdhnzj e1w784o30"><div class="css-omroyl elnhvn30"><a class="css-0" data-test="nav-link" href="/podcast/269-behind-the-seal-93862853/episode/the-leadership-and-trust-connection-131907509/"><h3 class="css-urhhfy e10xt71u0"><p class="css-r6mb8g" data-test="truncate-paragraph"><span data-test="truncate-span" title="">The Leadership and Trust Connection | Michael Martin, ECFA</span></p></h3></a></div><span><div class="css-1479fkt egx951j0">November 30, 2023<!-- --> <span data-test="bullet" class="css-eyxn1w e1y287ls0">•</span> <!-- -->53 mins</div></span></div><div class="css-1accb37 e2syrdj0"><svg fill="none" height="8" viewBox="0 0 12 8" width="12"><path d="M9.87998 1.29L5.99998 5.17L2.11998 1.29C1.72998 0.899998 1.09998 0.899998 0.70998 1.29C0.31998 1.68 0.31998 2.31 0.70998 2.7L5.29998 7.29C5.68998 7.68 6.31998 7.68 6.70998 7.29L11.3 2.7C11.69 2.31 11.69 1.68 11.3 1.29C10.91 0.909998 10.27 0.899998 9.87998 1.29Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg></div></div><div class="css-z603ou ev53muh0"><div class="css-cmf3mf e179s98p0" itemProp="podcastDescription"><div> <p>Michael Martin, ECFA's President, takes us back to 2021 when ECFA's Board started digging into how a leader's health affects financial integrity and trust. In the past two years, ECFA has surveyed and researched this connection. The ECFA board has applied these findings to better support the health of its own leadership and staff. 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He’s the top leader at Grace and a Board Member here at ECFA. He dives into why supporting pastors is so vital right now and how the board can prioritize relationship building with top leaders! His leadership in the National Unity Weekend has spurred Christ-Centered conversations and action on race and diversity nationwide. 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Intentionality underscores all parts of their culture as leadership seeks intergenerational accountability. To live for Christ in your personal life and your public life, if they all look the same, is the most authentic you can be!</p><p>One Ho...</p></div> <button class="css-1t8gq41 ehd7kj20" data-test="nav-link"> <!-- -->Read more</button></div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 4.70915 11.7405 4.28013L8.33472 0.428615Z" fill="#3F4447"></path><path d="M0 9.06873C0 8.03722 0.84082 7.21605 1.86035 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e179s98p0" itemProp="podcastDescription"> <p>Women Doing Well's purpose is to activate women towards purposeful generosity. 95% of women will, at some point in their life, be the primary financial decision maker for their family, yet a larger percentage do not feel confident and equipped to to handle what God has given to them.</p><p>https://womendoingwell.org/</p> </div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 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He shares telling signs of unhealth and examples of leaders who took it head on, even as they were the problem.</p><p>Check out the Flourishing Culture Leadership Podcast here: https://workplaces.org/podcast</p> </div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 4.70915 11.7405 4.28013L8.33472 0.428615Z" fill="#3F4447"></path><path d="M0 9.06873C0 8.03722 0.84082 7.21605 1.86035 7.21605H4C4.55225 7.21605 5 7.66377 5 8.21605C5 8.76834 4.55225 9.21605 4 9.21605H2V21H14V9.21605H12C11.4478 9.21605 11 8.76834 11 8.21605C11 7.66377 11.4478 7.21605 12 7.21605H14.1401C15.1594 7.21605 16 8.03759 16 9.06873V21.1478C16 22.1788 15.1592 23 14.1401 23H1.86035C0.841309 23 0 22.1792 0 21.1478V9.06873Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Share</div></div></button><div data-test="podcast-mark-as-played" class="css-1m2npzy e13vi74n0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 20 20" width="20"><path d="M15.2975 6.29251C14.9072 5.89941 14.2717 5.89829 13.88 6.29L8 12.17L5.11549 9.29352C4.7257 8.90482 4.09474 8.90526 3.70549 9.29451C3.31586 9.68414 3.31586 10.3159 3.70549 10.7055L7.54545 14.5455C7.79649 14.7965 8.20351 14.7965 8.45455 14.5455L15.295 7.705C15.6848 7.31524 15.6859 6.68365 15.2975 6.29251ZM10 0C4.48 0 0 4.48 0 10C0 15.52 4.48 20 10 20C15.52 20 20 15.52 20 10C20 4.48 15.52 0 10 0ZM10 18C5.58 18 2 14.42 2 10C2 5.58 5.58 2 10 2C14.42 2 18 5.58 18 10C18 14.42 14.42 18 10 18Z" fill="#000000"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Mark as Played</div></div></div><div data-test="podcast-play-progress" class="css-i5ai75 egwgilq0"></div></div></div><div class="css-ryp8vm ehbvdpp0"><div data-test="podcast-episode-card" class="css-1rnml96 emliuun0"><div class="css-1927myz e12f98q00"><div class="css-1rep9g8 e1rsh1tc0"><button class="css-4hf0t5 ebe59710" data-test="play-button" data-test-state="paused" type="button"><span aria-label="Play" class="SVGInline SVGInline--cleaned css-1u7b33j e1md4my70"><svg class="SVGInline-svg SVGInline--cleaned-svg css-1u7b33j-svg e1md4my70-svg" fill="#FFFFFF" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="256 908 100 100"><style></style><path d="M272.6 912.3l69.9 44c1.8 1.1 1.8 3.7 0 4.8l-69.9 44c-1.9 1.2-4.3-.2-4.3-2.4v-87.9c0-2.3 2.5-3.7 4.3-2.5z"/></svg></span></button></div><div data-test="podcast-episode-name" class="css-hdhnzj e1w784o30"><div class="css-omroyl elnhvn30"><a class="css-0" data-test="nav-link" href="/podcast/269-behind-the-seal-93862853/episode/the-tough-questions-the-needed-answers-118216444/"><h3 class="css-urhhfy e10xt71u0"><p class="css-r6mb8g" data-test="truncate-paragraph"><span data-test="truncate-span" title="">The Tough Questions, The Needed Answers | Brian Kreeger</span></p></h3></a></div><span><div class="css-1479fkt egx951j0">June 29, 2023<!-- --> <span data-test="bullet" class="css-eyxn1w e1y287ls0">•</span> <!-- -->57 mins</div></span></div><div class="css-1accb37 e2syrdj0"><svg fill="none" height="8" viewBox="0 0 12 8" width="12"><path d="M9.87998 1.29L5.99998 5.17L2.11998 1.29C1.72998 0.899998 1.09998 0.899998 0.70998 1.29C0.31998 1.68 0.31998 2.31 0.70998 2.7L5.29998 7.29C5.68998 7.68 6.31998 7.68 6.70998 7.29L11.3 2.7C11.69 2.31 11.69 1.68 11.3 1.29C10.91 0.909998 10.27 0.899998 9.87998 1.29Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg></div></div><div class="css-z603ou ev53muh0"><div class="css-cmf3mf e179s98p0" itemProp="podcastDescription"> <p>Ministry Lead Brian Kreeger worked hard. 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Listen to his reflections from The Courageous Ask, a book considering how a leader finds support from his board, friends, and fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.</p><p>Connect with Brian<br>https://www.briankreeger.com/</p><p>ECFA's Lessons from the Boardroom<br>https://www.ecfa.org/lessonsnonprofitboardroom/Default.aspx</p> </div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 4.70915 11.7405 4.28013L8.33472 0.428615Z" fill="#3F4447"></path><path d="M0 9.06873C0 8.03722 0.84082 7.21605 1.86035 7.21605H4C4.55225 7.21605 5 7.66377 5 8.21605C5 8.76834 4.55225 9.21605 4 9.21605H2V21H14V9.21605H12C11.4478 9.21605 11 8.76834 11 8.21605C11 7.66377 11.4478 7.21605 12 7.21605H14.1401C15.1594 7.21605 16 8.03759 16 9.06873V21.1478C16 22.1788 15.1592 23 14.1401 23H1.86035C0.841309 23 0 22.1792 0 21.1478V9.06873Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Share</div></div></button><div data-test="podcast-mark-as-played" class="css-1m2npzy e13vi74n0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 20 20" width="20"><path d="M15.2975 6.29251C14.9072 5.89941 14.2717 5.89829 13.88 6.29L8 12.17L5.11549 9.29352C4.7257 8.90482 4.09474 8.90526 3.70549 9.29451C3.31586 9.68414 3.31586 10.3159 3.70549 10.7055L7.54545 14.5455C7.79649 14.7965 8.20351 14.7965 8.45455 14.5455L15.295 7.705C15.6848 7.31524 15.6859 6.68365 15.2975 6.29251ZM10 0C4.48 0 0 4.48 0 10C0 15.52 4.48 20 10 20C15.52 20 20 15.52 20 10C20 4.48 15.52 0 10 0ZM10 18C5.58 18 2 14.42 2 10C2 5.58 5.58 2 10 2C14.42 2 18 5.58 18 10C18 14.42 14.42 18 10 18Z" fill="#000000"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Mark as Played</div></div></div><div data-test="podcast-play-progress" class="css-i5ai75 egwgilq0"></div></div></div><div class="css-ryp8vm ehbvdpp0"><div data-test="podcast-episode-card" class="css-1rnml96 emliuun0"><div class="css-1927myz e12f98q00"><div class="css-1rep9g8 e1rsh1tc0"><button class="css-4hf0t5 ebe59710" data-test="play-button" data-test-state="paused" type="button"><span aria-label="Play" class="SVGInline SVGInline--cleaned css-1u7b33j e1md4my70"><svg class="SVGInline-svg SVGInline--cleaned-svg css-1u7b33j-svg e1md4my70-svg" fill="#FFFFFF" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="256 908 100 100"><style></style><path d="M272.6 912.3l69.9 44c1.8 1.1 1.8 3.7 0 4.8l-69.9 44c-1.9 1.2-4.3-.2-4.3-2.4v-87.9c0-2.3 2.5-3.7 4.3-2.5z"/></svg></span></button></div><div data-test="podcast-episode-name" class="css-hdhnzj e1w784o30"><div class="css-omroyl elnhvn30"><a class="css-0" data-test="nav-link" href="/podcast/269-behind-the-seal-93862853/episode/global-and-biblical-perspective-on-leaders-117441915/"><h3 class="css-urhhfy e10xt71u0"><p class="css-r6mb8g" data-test="truncate-paragraph"><span data-test="truncate-span" title="">Global and Biblical Perspective on Leaders | Gary Hoag, Global Trust Partners</span></p></h3></a></div><span><div class="css-1479fkt egx951j0">June 15, 2023<!-- --> <span data-test="bullet" class="css-eyxn1w e1y287ls0">•</span> <!-- -->48 mins</div></span></div><div class="css-1accb37 e2syrdj0"><svg fill="none" height="8" viewBox="0 0 12 8" width="12"><path d="M9.87998 1.29L5.99998 5.17L2.11998 1.29C1.72998 0.899998 1.09998 0.899998 0.70998 1.29C0.31998 1.68 0.31998 2.31 0.70998 2.7L5.29998 7.29C5.68998 7.68 6.31998 7.68 6.70998 7.29L11.3 2.7C11.69 2.31 11.69 1.68 11.3 1.29C10.91 0.909998 10.27 0.899998 9.87998 1.29Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg></div></div><div class="css-z603ou ev53muh0"><div class="css-cmf3mf e179s98p0" itemProp="podcastDescription"><div> <p>Gary Hoag sees and hears about the global church every day. As CEO of Global Trust Partners, birthed from the heartbeat of ECFA, Gary witnesses how ministry work is done worldwide and how different cultures and governments perceive financial integrity, good governance, and leadership. Biblically, Gary has spent time as a New Testament scholar considering the Jerusalem council and its leadership structure.</p><p>The three books G...</p></div> <button class="css-1t8gq41 ehd7kj20" data-test="nav-link"> <!-- -->Read more</button></div></div><div class="css-j9qmi7 e1v33edj0"><button aria-label="More" data-test="target-button" role="button" class="css-1tdkcll e2uivio0"><div data-test="share-button" class="css-rqol1o eagfbvw0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 16 23" width="16"><path d="M8.33472 0.428615C8.13428 0.201808 7.77979 0.203876 7.58179 0.433017L4.25146 4.28926C3.8772 4.72267 3.92627 5.37638 4.36133 5.74938C4.79614 6.12237 5.45215 6.0734 5.82642 5.63999L7 4.28118V14.1482C7 14.7005 7.44775 15.1482 8 15.1482C8.55225 15.1482 9 14.7005 9 14.1482V4.31299L10.1814 5.64912C10.5608 6.07814 11.2173 6.11946 11.6479 5.74143C12.0784 5.36339 12.1199 4.70915 11.7405 4.28013L8.33472 0.428615Z" fill="#3F4447"></path><path d="M0 9.06873C0 8.03722 0.84082 7.21605 1.86035 7.21605H4C4.55225 7.21605 5 7.66377 5 8.21605C5 8.76834 4.55225 9.21605 4 9.21605H2V21H14V9.21605H12C11.4478 9.21605 11 8.76834 11 8.21605C11 7.66377 11.4478 7.21605 12 7.21605H14.1401C15.1594 7.21605 16 8.03759 16 9.06873V21.1478C16 22.1788 15.1592 23 14.1401 23H1.86035C0.841309 23 0 22.1792 0 21.1478V9.06873Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Share</div></div></button><div data-test="podcast-mark-as-played" class="css-1m2npzy e13vi74n0"><svg fill="none" height="15" viewBox="0 0 20 20" width="20"><path d="M15.2975 6.29251C14.9072 5.89941 14.2717 5.89829 13.88 6.29L8 12.17L5.11549 9.29352C4.7257 8.90482 4.09474 8.90526 3.70549 9.29451C3.31586 9.68414 3.31586 10.3159 3.70549 10.7055L7.54545 14.5455C7.79649 14.7965 8.20351 14.7965 8.45455 14.5455L15.295 7.705C15.6848 7.31524 15.6859 6.68365 15.2975 6.29251ZM10 0C4.48 0 0 4.48 0 10C0 15.52 4.48 20 10 20C15.52 20 20 15.52 20 10C20 4.48 15.52 0 10 0ZM10 18C5.58 18 2 14.42 2 10C2 5.58 5.58 2 10 2C14.42 2 18 5.58 18 10C18 14.42 14.42 18 10 18Z" fill="#000000"></path></svg><div class="css-epdmgm e16w9crw0">Mark as Played</div></div></div><div data-test="podcast-play-progress" class="css-i5ai75 egwgilq0"></div></div></div><div class="css-ryp8vm ehbvdpp0"><div data-test="podcast-episode-card" class="css-1rnml96 emliuun0"><div class="css-1927myz e12f98q00"><div class="css-1rep9g8 e1rsh1tc0"><button class="css-4hf0t5 ebe59710" data-test="play-button" data-test-state="paused" type="button"><span aria-label="Play" class="SVGInline SVGInline--cleaned css-1u7b33j e1md4my70"><svg class="SVGInline-svg SVGInline--cleaned-svg css-1u7b33j-svg e1md4my70-svg" fill="#FFFFFF" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="256 908 100 100"><style></style><path d="M272.6 912.3l69.9 44c1.8 1.1 1.8 3.7 0 4.8l-69.9 44c-1.9 1.2-4.3-.2-4.3-2.4v-87.9c0-2.3 2.5-3.7 4.3-2.5z"/></svg></span></button></div><div data-test="podcast-episode-name" class="css-hdhnzj e1w784o30"><div class="css-omroyl elnhvn30"><a class="css-0" data-test="nav-link" href="/podcast/269-behind-the-seal-93862853/episode/the-lords-calling-you-to-lead-116338189/"><h3 class="css-urhhfy e10xt71u0"><p class="css-r6mb8g" data-test="truncate-paragraph"><span data-test="truncate-span" title="">The Lord's Calling You to Lead, Answer Humbly | Jacob Bland, Youth for Christ</span></p></h3></a></div><span><div class="css-1479fkt egx951j0">June 1, 2023<!-- --> <span data-test="bullet" class="css-eyxn1w e1y287ls0">•</span> <!-- -->46 mins</div></span></div><div class="css-1accb37 e2syrdj0"><svg fill="none" height="8" viewBox="0 0 12 8" width="12"><path d="M9.87998 1.29L5.99998 5.17L2.11998 1.29C1.72998 0.899998 1.09998 0.899998 0.70998 1.29C0.31998 1.68 0.31998 2.31 0.70998 2.7L5.29998 7.29C5.68998 7.68 6.31998 7.68 6.70998 7.29L11.3 2.7C11.69 2.31 11.69 1.68 11.3 1.29C10.91 0.909998 10.27 0.899998 9.87998 1.29Z" fill="#3F4447"></path></svg></div></div><div class="css-z603ou ev53muh0"><div class="css-cmf3mf e179s98p0" itemProp="podcastDescription"><div> <p>Jacob Bland answered the call. As a young leader in a storied ministry, his wisdom in humbly leading and balancing a young family is relatable for so many of us. The relationship between Youth For Christ's Board of Directors and senior leadership is thoughtful, caring, and saturated in prayer. 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