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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Death" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Death">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Death</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Death</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Death</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Death articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This page is supported by <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Death/Suicide_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Death/Suicide task force">the Suicide task force</a></b>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Creation_and_gestation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creation_and_gestation-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Creation_and_gestation-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Creation and gestation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Creation_and_gestation-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Creation and gestation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z-Creation_and_gestation"></span>I have constructed this essay after an editor was kind enough to suggest that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATimtrent&diff=542423231&oldid=541782834">some of my words</a> had sufficient value to be worth expanding, generalising, and using as the foundation blocks for an essay on the careful handling of articles about notable suicides. It was created in my user space in order to allow me some time to consolidate my thoughts before it was released into the wild, and I invited the editor who made the suggestion to consider it and edit it, bringing any editors they felt to be relevant to do the same. </p><p>People are often hesitant to edit essays created by others. That should not be the case. Wikipedia runs on the consensus based opinions of many editors, and this essay should be no different. Please edit, discuss, alter, argue or agree at will. <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent">Fiddle Faddle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides#c-Timtrent-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z-Creation_and_gestation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z-Creation_and_gestation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-2013-03-07T10:24:00.000Z-Creation_and_gestation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Release" data-mw-thread-id="h-Release-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Release-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Release<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Release-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Release"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z-Release"></span>After a healthy gestation period including involving several other editors in the creation, editing, stripping back and just plain reading, this essay was moved into Wikipedia: space today. Many of the editing conversations were held on user talk pages. The essay's release was delayed pending the closure of a major discussion on the migration of a large number of <i>Suicide of Foo</i> articles to <i>Foo</i> which was closed in favour of their remaining as <i>Suicide of Foo</i> in accordance with the policies and guidelines which obtain today. This essay (and its talk page) is not the place to discuss those policies and guidelines. It simply reflects them. Should they alter then aspects of this essay should also alter. <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent">Fiddle Faddle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides#c-Timtrent-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z-Release" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z-Release"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-2013-05-03T08:54:00.000Z-Release"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?" data-mw-thread-id="h-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z"><span id="There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay.2C_but_is_it_beneficial.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z"></span>There is scope to extend the essay, but is it beneficial?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: There is scope to extend the essay, but is it beneficial?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?"></span>Without an enormous amount of effort this essay might be extended to encompass notable murders also. The topics are essentially similar in editing and article terms, though different emotions are aroused by the different mechanisms of death. It seems that a second essay along similar lines to this one would contain a large overlap of wording. </p><p>Would such an extension be judged to be beneficial? <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent">Fiddle Faddle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides#c-Timtrent-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-2013-05-05T23:07:00.000Z-There_is_scope_to_extend_the_essay,_but_is_it_beneficial?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Attempted_Suicide" data-mw-thread-id="h-Attempted_Suicide-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Attempted_Suicide-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Attempted Suicide<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Attempted_Suicide-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Attempted Suicide"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nauseous_Man-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z-Attempted_Suicide"></span>Hi all. Is there any wiki policy/guidelines on how to refer to attempted suicide? If so, could you please point me to them? <a href="/wiki/User:Nauseous_Man" title="User:Nauseous Man">Nauseous Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nauseous_Man" title="User talk:Nauseous Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides#c-Nauseous_Man-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z-Attempted_Suicide" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nauseous_Man-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z-Attempted_Suicide"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nauseous_Man-2021-07-25T20:31:00.000Z-Attempted_Suicide"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&oldid=1260215181">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_on_suicides&oldid=1260215181</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-impact_WikiProject_Wikipedia_essays_pages" title="Category:NA-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages">NA-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_Wikipedia_essays" title="Category:NA-Class Wikipedia essays">NA-Class Wikipedia essays</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wikipedia_essays_pages" title="Category:WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages">WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Death_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Death articles">Project-Class Death articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Death_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Death articles">NA-importance Death articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Suicide_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Suicide articles">Project-Class Suicide articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Suicide_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Suicide articles">NA-importance Suicide articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Suicide_articles" title="Category:Suicide articles">Suicide articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_banners_with_redundant_class_parameter" title="Category:WikiProject banners with redundant class parameter">WikiProject banners with redundant class parameter</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 29 November 2024, at 15:04<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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