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class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>Journal capitalization</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Journal_capitalization-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Moving Jstor and Worldcat URLs to parameters</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">26 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proxy_cleanup?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proxy_cleanup?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Proxy cleanup?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proxy_cleanup?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_that_webpage" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_that_webpage"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Treating a release date for content on a webpage as the publication date for that webpage</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_that_webpage-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Bot is not respecting Template:inuse</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Michael_Metcalf" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Michael_Metcalf"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Michael Metcalf</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Michael_Metcalf-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Publisher_removed_from_cite_book"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Publisher removed from cite book</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Authors_incorrectly_added" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Authors_incorrectly_added"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Authors incorrectly added</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Authors_incorrectly_added-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Finna and Elonet are not book refs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Bot adding articles to Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Journal_capitalization_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Journal_capitalization_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Journal capitalization</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Journal_capitalization_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-web_>_book_template_bug" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#web_>_book_template_bug"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>web > book template bug</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-web_>_book_template_bug-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Created {dead link...} with invalid parameter.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Config_issue" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Config_issue"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Config issue</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Config_issue-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>MDPI url ending in /pdf-vor or /pdf</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Not_finding_author_names" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Not_finding_author_names"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Not finding author names</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Not_finding_author_names-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Incorrect article title from archive</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Book_Chapter_Quotes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Book_Chapter_Quotes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Book Chapter Quotes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Book_Chapter_Quotes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>watch out for usurped websites, importing spam text</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cosmetic_edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cosmetic_edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Cosmetic edit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Cosmetic_edit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot_breaking_refs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot_breaking_refs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Bot breaking refs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bot_breaking_refs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot_ignores_comments" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot_ignores_comments"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Bot ignores comments</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bot_ignores_comments-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-title/chapter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#title/chapter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>title/chapter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-title/chapter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span><s>Two</s> Four Weird Behaviours</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Strip underscore from authorlinks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Creates_title_with_replacement_character" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Creates_title_with_replacement_character"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Creates title with replacement character</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Creates_title_with_replacement_character-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Enhancement request - Could new OECD data site be supported?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Enhancement request - support more pdfs from major organisations</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Could dergipark.org.tr journals be expanded</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work="> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>adds |chapter= to {{citation}} templates that have |work=</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-weird_journal_overwriting" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#weird_journal_overwriting"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>weird journal overwriting</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-weird_journal_overwriting-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Could a simple overview be added to the "function summary" please</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-More_conferences:_10.21437/..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#More_conferences:_10.21437/..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>More conferences: 10.21437/...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-More_conferences:_10.21437/...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Caps: Antibiotiki i Khimioterapiia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_broke_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_broke_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Edit broke template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_broke_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Caps:_iSciences" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Caps:_iSciences"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Caps: iSciences</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Caps:_iSciences-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Adding CS1|2 templates to bare URLs badly</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Garbage title from scraping captcha</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI,_much_like_Category:CS1_errors:_DOI_and_the_others" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI,_much_like_Category:CS1_errors:_DOI_and_the_others"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Allow 1-click activation of category run on Category:CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI, much like Category:CS1 errors: DOI and the others</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI,_much_like_Category:CS1_errors:_DOI_and_the_others-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>TNT journal = National Library of Medicine</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-For_books,_fetch_publishers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#For_books,_fetch_publishers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>For books, fetch publishers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-For_books,_fetch_publishers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#biorxiv_is_not_a_journal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>biorxiv is not a journal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-last1=(punctuation_mark)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#last1=(punctuation_mark)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>last1=(punctuation mark)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-last1=(punctuation_mark)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Better IEEE Xplore handling</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IEEE_Xplore_part_deux"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>IEEE Xplore part deux</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Better handling of SPIE proceedings</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Reordering splits up author parameters</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>arXiv-to-journal-conversion upcases article title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>arXiv-to-journal conversion breaks math formula formatting in title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Messing_with_correct_citation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Messing_with_correct_citation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Messing with correct citation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Messing_with_correct_citation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Incorrect changing to cite document</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Does not fix "zero width space character in |title= at position 1"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Journal_capitalization_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Journal_capitalization_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Journal capitalization</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Journal_capitalization_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Enable 1-click activation of Category:CS1 errors: dates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>changes cite journal → cite book for no apparent reason</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Leaves journal= parameter in cite arXiv</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal="> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>in {{citation}} templates, bot leaves behind |journal=</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replaces_–_with_�" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replaces_–_with_�"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Replaces – with �</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Replaces_–_with_�-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proceedings_of_Science_handling" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proceedings_of_Science_handling"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Proceedings of Science handling</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proceedings_of_Science_handling-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"series"_parameter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"series"_parameter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>"series" parameter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"series"_parameter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Journal/conference/book_cleanup" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Journal/conference/book_cleanup"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Journal/conference/book cleanup</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Journal/conference/book_cleanup-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>nonsense journal to cite book</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-page_generated_un_error" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#page_generated_un_error"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>page generated un error</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-page_generated_un_error-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Use Project MUSE book parameter instead of adding URL</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>cosmetic feature request suggestion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Surtees_Society" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Surtees_Society"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Surtees Society</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Surtees_Society-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-10.22323_is_open_access" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#10.22323_is_open_access"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>10.22323 is open access</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-10.22323_is_open_access-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IEEE_Xplore_part_trois"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>IEEE Xplore part trois</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>misidentifying not-journals as journals</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>"Document unavailable"/"Preview unavailable" is not a title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Caps:_SIGPLAN" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Caps:_SIGPLAN"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>Caps: SIGPLAN</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Caps:_SIGPLAN-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-10.15347_is_free_to_read" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#10.15347_is_free_to_read"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>10.15347 is free to read</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-10.15347_is_free_to_read-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Convert_&#x00026;_to_&"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Convert &#x00026; to &</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Adds doi-access=free for broken DOI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">21 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>unsupported parameters when changing template type to cite document</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>10.1074 and 10.1194 are open access</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-One_cache_to_rule_them_all." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#One_cache_to_rule_them_all."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>One cache to rule them all.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-One_cache_to_rule_them_all.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replace_inf_by_sub_tags"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>Replace inf by sub tags</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Incorrect_title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Incorrect_title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>Incorrect title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Incorrect_title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fails_to_remove_invisible_character"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>Fails to remove invisible character</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>After inspection, all of 10.5210 are free access, not just 10.5210/fm</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Specifying name list style for newly-added name entries</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Expand_non-templated_refs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Expand_non-templated_refs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>Expand non-templated refs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Expand_non-templated_refs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-arxiv_is_not_a_journal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#arxiv_is_not_a_journal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>arxiv is not a journal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-arxiv_is_not_a_journal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_one_author" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_one_author"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Bug? The bot should not replace first/last to first1/last1 when there is just one author</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_one_author-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Use_of_template_"ODNB"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Use_of_template_"ODNB""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Use of template "ODNB"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Use_of_template_"ODNB"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-pages_totales" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#pages_totales"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>pages totales</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-pages_totales-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>bot drops author first name in favor of a pair of dots</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>treat #invoke:cite foo | as cite foo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-When_databases_collide" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#When_databases_collide"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>When databases collide</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-When_databases_collide-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>Convesion to mathml conflices with the math:Extension</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-invoke_other_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#invoke_other_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>invoke other template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-invoke_other_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Breaks_charts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Breaks_charts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Breaks charts</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Breaks_charts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet" class="vector-toc-list-item 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_35" title="User talk:Citation bot/Archive 35">Archive 35</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_36" title="User talk:Citation bot/Archive 36">Archive 36</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 37</a></span></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_38" title="User talk:Citation bot/Archive 38">Archive 38</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_39" title="User talk:Citation bot/Archive 39">Archive 39</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_40" title="User talk:Citation bot/Archive 40">Archive 40</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="weird_cite_arxiv_convertion" data-mw-thread-id="h-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-20231002215700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-20231002215700"></span>weird cite arxiv convertion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-20231002215700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for now, since so rare</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-1"></span>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AConsumer-resource_model&diff=prev&oldid=1178315654">[1]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Possibly from garbage Pubmed metadata <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231002215700-weird_cite_arxiv_convertion-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231003151400-Headbomb-20231002215700"></span>Really weird that PubMed is now tracking arxiv stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231003151400-Headbomb-20231002215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 3 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231003151400-Headbomb-20231002215700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231003151400-Headbomb-20231002215700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorrect_grab_of_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_grab_of_title-20231010165300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_grab_of_title-20231010165300"></span>Incorrect grab of title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_grab_of_title-20231010165300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UtherSRG-20231010165300-Incorrect_grab_of_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> unicode PHP oddity. Thank you for reporting.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:UtherSRG" title="User:UtherSRG">UtherSRG</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:UtherSRG" title="User talk:UtherSRG">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-UtherSRG-20231010165300-Incorrect_grab_of_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 10 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UtherSRG-20231010165300-Incorrect_grab_of_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UtherSRG-20231010165300-Incorrect_grab_of_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot incorrectly grabs journal article title</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homo_habilis&diff=prev&oldid=1179513770">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homo_habilis&diff=prev&oldid=1179513770</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL-20231011133900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL-20231011133900"></span>Adds broken repository.upenn.edu URL<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL-20231011133900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231011133900-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> by adding epository.upenn.edu to the list of bad urls</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:Chris_Capoccia" title="User:Chris Capoccia">Chris Capoccia</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_Capoccia" title="User talk:Chris Capoccia">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chris_Capoccia-20231011133900-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231011133900-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231011133900-Adds_broken_repository.upenn.edu_URL"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Expanding a cite to <a href="/wiki/JSTOR_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="JSTOR (identifier)">JSTOR</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2859808">2859808</a> adds a broken URL that redirects to a home page. Maybe they've changed their URL format? Correct URL for this case should be <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://repository.upenn.edu/handle/20.500.14332/36341">https://repository.upenn.edu/handle/20.500.14332/36341</a></dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AChris_Capoccia%2Fsandbox&diff=1179641487&oldid=1179641470">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AChris_Capoccia%2Fsandbox&diff=1179641487&oldid=1179641470</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journal_capitalization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal_capitalization-20231012154000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal_capitalization-20231012154000"></span>Journal capitalization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal_capitalization-20231012154000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231012154000-Journal_capitalization"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User:Super Dromaeosaurus">Super Dromaeosaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231012154000-Journal_capitalization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231012154000-Journal_capitalization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231012154000-Journal_capitalization"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231013224100-Journal_capitalization"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot keeps capitalizing a journal's name (examples from one article: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aromanian_studies&diff=prev&oldid=1113241939">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aromanian_studies&diff=prev&oldid=1165887632">[3]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aromanian_studies&diff=prev&oldid=1172111723">[4]</a>; examples from another: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Freiburg&diff=prev&oldid=1161509582">[5]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Freiburg&diff=prev&oldid=1166961332">[6]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Freiburg&diff=prev&oldid=1174723802">[7]</a>).</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Leave it as is. I'm tired of this bot.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd>Gave them above.</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> The issue here should be to recognize language=rup <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231013224100-Journal_capitalization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231013224100-Journal_capitalization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231013224100-Journal_capitalization"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231015223300-Headbomb-20231013224100"></span>Thanks for the fix! <a href="/wiki/User:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User:Super Dromaeosaurus">Super Dromaeosaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231015223300-Headbomb-20231013224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231015223300-Headbomb-20231013224100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231015223300-Headbomb-20231013224100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters-20230922061900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters-20230922061900"></span>Moving Jstor and Worldcat URLs to parameters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters-20230922061900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230922061900-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span>From discussions (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC#Jstor_URL_extractor">1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Link_rot#Mass_additions_of_archive_links_for_live_sites">2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive_18#Further_steps?">3</a>) on stopping useless cruft – for example <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://i.imgur.com/1Dow25O.jpg">this useless blank archive of a Jstor article</a> – from semi-automated mass archiving, a number of editors have noted their <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive_18#Further_steps?" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 18">support</a> for a bot to parse Jstor and Worldcat URLs (eg <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812</code>) for their respective <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|jstor=24432812</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|oclc=</code> parameters where relevant and purge URLs, archive URLs, and archive metadata for CS1 templates. </p><p>Is this something that can be done with citation bot? I will note that I'm not saying to purge all URLs – they can be useful if the full text is separately hosted elsewhere – just URLs and archives thereof (almost always useless blank pages) that are duplicative of the generated parameter URLs. Tagging <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230922061900-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230922061900-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230922061900-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900-Ifly6-20230922061900"></span>The bot got blocked for doing this (although the person who lead the charge on this themselves eventually got banned). The main arguement was that the users of wikipedia are only capable of clicking on title-links, and numbers after the reference as above their IQ level. Although I would argue that having these as title links is misleading since they they almost never lead to the source, but just a page listing the source. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900-Ifly6-20230922061900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 22 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900-Ifly6-20230922061900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900-Ifly6-20230922061900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230922141100-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900"></span>That policy feels like insanity. Is it possible to determine whether the Jstor link leads to a full source and the URL (metadata, archive URL, and archive metadata) only if it does not lead to a full source? Worldcat is easier because it never(?) leads thereto. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230922141100-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 22 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230922141100-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230922141100-AManWithNoPlan-20230922130900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20230923033400-Ifly6-20230922141100"></span>I feel there's a case to remove links that will never host the full text, like PMID, OCLC, etc... because they mislead the reader into thinking there's a full text available at the end. But that would require an RFC. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20230923033400-Ifly6-20230922141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 23 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20230923033400-Ifly6-20230922141100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20230923033400-Ifly6-20230922141100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230925151700-Headbomb-20230923033400"></span>Is it really the case that we cannot do <i>anything</i> to change this (to me at least) absurdist combination where the following series of events keep occurring: <ul><li>People use Citoid which places Jstor links into <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code></li> <li>Citation bot comes around and extracts the Jstor ID etc but doesn't remove the URL</li> <li>Some NPC hits ARCHIVE EVERYTHING with the IA Bot check box (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ifly6/IA_bot_Jstor_test&curid=74903164&diff=1176967332&oldid=1176967281">eg IA Bot</a>) and now we have a massive pile of archive URL cruft (nb the check box <i>does not actually archive anything</i>)</li> <li>After this rigmarole an editor can now see the result, which is: <ul><li>A <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812">main URL</a> that doesn't give you full text</li> <li>A duplicated parameter which renders an identical URL link (<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|jstor=24432812</code>)</li> <li>An archive URL which is a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220526152815/https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812">literally blank page</a></li> <li>A mark up reference which is now <b>70 per cent</b> longer than it needs to be to do the exact same thing</li></ul></li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230925151700-Headbomb-20230923033400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230925151700-Headbomb-20230923033400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230925151700-Headbomb-20230923033400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230925162600-Ifly6-20230925151700"></span>The bot used to do this until the argument was made that: our users were too stupid to figure out non-title links, and yet so smart that they needed links to scientific journals, since wikipedia was too simple for them. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20230925162600-Ifly6-20230925151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230925162600-Ifly6-20230925151700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230925162600-Ifly6-20230925151700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:8em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:8em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230925171300-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> Is there really nothing we can do on this without an RFC? <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230925171300-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230925171300-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230925171300-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20230925200100-Ifly6-20230925171300"></span>Getting blocked twice for the same thing is probably an existential risk.</dd> <dd>I think Headbomb makes a good point, removing title-links that don't contain full content and that can be replaced with non-title-links. Sometimes JSTOR has the full content sometimes not, sometimes freely accessible (pre-1923), sometimes not. As for archive URLs, this will depend what is cited, if the content is available in the archive URL. It's context sensitive. I would be careful with an RfC, they can be counter-productive with complex matters. An RfC might codify a minority opinion that bots should not be used at all due to "context sensitive" and the "community" will take care of it, which dooms the whole thing to fantasy land due the reality of the scale.</dd> <dd>It's possible a bot (this one or another) could start on JSTOR, determine content availability, url-status, and edit accordingly. It might also check archive URLs for possible problems. This is going to be a slow process, and it might run into bot blockers at JSTOR, rate limiting, which further complicates. If true that would leave the "blind" edit option of simply removing all JSTOR links from the title-link as the only viable method, unless someone has another idea how to determine content availability. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GreenC-20230925200100-Ifly6-20230925171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20230925200100-Ifly6-20230925171300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20230925200100-Ifly6-20230925171300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMF-20230925225700-GreenC-20230925200100"></span>Some people have deeper access to JSTOR resources than others, depending on where they are. Surely when a JSTOR resource is cited, no-one is seriously suggesting that only open-access ones may be given? Is anyone suggesting that we deprecate ISBNs because <shudder> some readers might have to buy the actual book? Or have I completely missed the point? --<a href="/wiki/User:JMF" title="User:JMF">𝕁𝕄𝔽</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMF" title="User talk:JMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-JMF-20230925225700-GreenC-20230925200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMF-20230925225700-GreenC-20230925200100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMF-20230925225700-GreenC-20230925200100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span>Nobody is saying that Jstor should not be cited. The dispute here is whether a link to the Jstor page should be included in the URL parameter. For me this emerges from the really pointless practice of adding the "archive" version of Jstor links so you can get the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220526152815/https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812">glory of gazing upon a blank page</a>. Removing the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> entry would prevent "archive" links from being added. It is a dispute between whether a reference should look like this:</dd> <dd><pre>{{Cite journal |last=Steel |first=Catherine |date=2014 |title=The Roman senate and the post-Sullan "res publica" |journal=Historia: Zeitschrift für Alte Geschichte |volume=63 |issue=3 |pages=323–339 |doi=10.25162/historia-2014-0018 |jstor=24432812 |s2cid=151289863 |issn=0018-2311 }}</pre></dd> <dd>Or, by almost inevitable accretion through inaction, like this:</dd> <dd><pre>{{Cite journal |last=Steel |first=Catherine |date=2014 |title=The Roman senate and the post-Sullan "res publica" |journal=Historia: Zeitschrift für Alte Geschichte |volume=63 |issue=3 |pages=323–339 |doi=10.25162/historia-2014-0018 |jstor=24432812 |s2cid=151289863 |issn=0018-2311 |url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812 |access-date=26 May 2022 |archive-date=26 May 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220526152815/https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812 |url-status=live }}</pre></dd> <dd>The portions at the end after <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> entirely duplicate existing links in the citation and regardless add nothing for the unprivileged reader while clogging up the mark up and making it difficult to do the <i>edit</i> part of "editor". Even if I have Ivy League library access and be able to read all full texts through proxies (eg <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://guides.library.upenn.edu/usingeresources/ezproxy">Penn Libraries</a>), that doesn't mean that linking the proxy page whole (like <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">https://www-jstor-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/</code>) does any good for readers without Penn or Wikipedia library privileges. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ereunetes-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span>The number of Wikipedians who potentially have access to JSTOR sources that are hidden by paywalls may be larger than you think. "Veteran" Wikipedians (I believe the cut-off is 500 life-time edits) can avail themselves of access to JSTOR (and many ohter sources barred to the hoi polloi) via <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/users/my_library/">the Wikipedia library</a>. So I think for these relatively "privileged" people giving a link to a page that contains a doi is till useful. I have no problem doing it, also for sources like Cambridge U.P and the like. <a href="/wiki/User:Ereunetes" title="User:Ereunetes">Ereunetes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ereunetes" title="User talk:Ereunetes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ereunetes-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ereunetes-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ereunetes-20230925233700-JMF-20230925225700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230925234300-Ereunetes-20230925233700"></span>If the purpose of adding <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812">https://www.jstor.org/stable/24432812</a></code> is for the "average" reader this link does nothing because they will not have a Jstor subscription. If adding it is to help the "average" university student, the link also does nothing because they will have to go through their university proxy. If it is to help the privileged editor with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LIBRARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LIBRARY">WP:LIBRARY</a> access, it also does nothing because we have to go through a proxy too. The only people it supports are those few who have direct access to Jstor <span style="font-size:85%;">(which ironically includes me via the Federal Reserve)</span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230925234300-Ereunetes-20230925233700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230925234300-Ereunetes-20230925233700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230925234300-Ereunetes-20230925233700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Umimmak-20230925234900-Ifly6-20230925234300"></span>What do you mean "the link does nothing"? If someone has access to JSTOR, via WP:LIBRARY, their local public library, an academic library, or whatever, seeing that there is <em>anything</em> in the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|jstor=</code> parameter lets them know that the article is on JSTOR and they will likely have access to it, and once they click on the link they can easily log in via whatever gives them access via whatever proxy, or if they're physically at their library just click the link and access it. The JSTOR link also provides metabibliographic information, a first page preview, and abstract. Plus JSTOR allows independent researchers 100 free articles each month, and if someone so chooses they have the option to buy it à la carte. Anything which helps a reader access a source is useful, and quite often JSTOR is <em>the</em> electronic place of record for a journal. [Edit: sorry I'm following more closely now, I still think it should be in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|jstor=</code> -- that's why we have that parameter; it does not also belong in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code>.] <a href="/wiki/User:Umimmak" title="User:Umimmak">Umimmak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Umimmak" title="User talk:Umimmak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Umimmak-20230925234900-Ifly6-20230925234300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Umimmak-20230925234900-Ifly6-20230925234300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Umimmak-20230925234900-Ifly6-20230925234300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230926011300-Umimmak-20230925234900"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">What do you mean "the link does nothing"?</q> The link to the native Jstor website in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> is not the proper one and will not yield the full text unless you have <i>direct</i> Jstor access. If you access it through a proxy, you would have to copy the Jstor ID and paste it in after <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">../static/</code>. Putting the direct URL in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> is not very useful and largely facilitates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEATBOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEATBOT">WP:MEATBOTs</a> crufting up articles with unnecessary mark up pointing to blank archive pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230926011300-Umimmak-20230925234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230926011300-Umimmak-20230925234900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230926011300-Umimmak-20230925234900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ereunetes-20230927204200-Ifly6-20230926011300"></span>OK. Forgive my ignorance; I didn't know about the "jstor=" parameter and will use it in future if the case applies, instead of the "url=" parameter. Would it be possible to enable the Citation bot to change "url=" to "jstor=" if that would be appropriate? Or am I stupid again? <a href="/wiki/User:Ereunetes" title="User:Ereunetes">Ereunetes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ereunetes" title="User talk:Ereunetes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ereunetes-20230927204200-Ifly6-20230926011300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ereunetes-20230927204200-Ifly6-20230926011300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ereunetes-20230927204200-Ifly6-20230926011300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230927215400-Ereunetes-20230927204200"></span>The discussion we are in is whether citation bot should extract Jstor URLs and put them into <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|jstor=</code>. Apparently there was an RFD, ban, or something of the sort which has led the maintainer(s) of the bot not being willing to re-enable that previously-present functionality. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230927215400-Ereunetes-20230927204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230927215400-Ereunetes-20230927204200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230927215400-Ereunetes-20230927204200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Izno-20230930003700-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span>The RFC you are looking for is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_172#Issues_raised_by_Citation_bot" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 172">this one</a>.</dd> <dd>Perhaps the maintainers of the bots should put together an FAQ somewhere about why the bot does some things that it does and some things that it does not with links to appropriate major discussions. <a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Izno-20230930003700-Ifly6-20230927215400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Izno-20230930003700-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Izno-20230930003700-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20230930044400-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span>I think it might be possible to effect a change like this if we take it slowly. If we can start with getting consensus that archives of paywall landing pages (like Jstor) <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">should be removed</span>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|access-date=</code> in <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> (and maybe others) <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">should be removed</span>, we'll have solved almost the entire problem of these kinds of URLs without needing to determine whether or not readers / editors will understand the alternative stable identifiers. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20230930044400-Ifly6-20230927215400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20230930044400-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20230930044400-Ifly6-20230927215400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20230930232800-Folly_Mox-20230930044400"></span>While I agree that those two should be done, it doesn't appear to me to solve the problem of someone driving by to blindly hit the check box and add those archives back in. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20230930232800-Folly_Mox-20230930044400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20230930232800-Folly_Mox-20230930044400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20230930232800-Folly_Mox-20230930044400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001003900-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span>Right, the prevention is more difficult than the cure, but if we have consensus to remove archives to paywall landing pages, we could get a bot to do it, and getting consensus to remove would be a step towards consensus against adding. I don't think this is a one-step recipe. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231001003900-Ifly6-20230930232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001003900-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231001003900-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001004300-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span>And there's no way to prevent the URLs and prefer custom stable identifiers. Citoid guarantees a valid URL in its output, and works across multiple projects, most of which don't implement custom stable identifiers. We'd have to get every maintainer of every automated referencing script, including VisualEditor, to build in functionality to reach our end goal here, which it's unclear if there's even consensus for in all facets. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231001004300-Ifly6-20230930232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001004300-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231001004300-Ifly6-20230930232800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:17.6em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:17.6em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20231001193600-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> Well that issue is why we're here at Citation bot. Do you think it's actually impossible to get a decision for Citation bot to remove those URLs? A bot to remove those archives would produce even more watchlist events, which people in the discussion below seem to be adamantly against, while also probably being impossible to implement per GreenC's comment above. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20231001193600-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20231001193600-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20231001193600-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001220900-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span>I don't know what venue should generate the consensus, but we do need the theoretical underpinnings of a discussion reaching consensus regarding archives of paywall landing pages before a Bot request or BRFA for a new task could be submitted. I wouldn't necessarily frame it as something that Citation bot in particular needs to handle, instead of some other bot, and I wouldn't want it to take place in absence of other constructive edits even though it doesn't violate COSMETICBOT.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>So, I'd try to frame this bit of the discussion as "archives to paywall landing pages are useless cruft: they don't archive the content and you can't use them to navigate to the content", not "proposal for a one-time bot run to have User:Citation bot remove archives to paywall landing pages in 1,700,000 articles".<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>So no, I don't think it's actually impossible, and I think setting jstor.org to <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">permalive</code> for IABot is also a reasonable first step. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231001220900-Ifly6-20231001193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001220900-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231001220900-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001221100-Folly_Mox-20231001220900"></span>And I do appreciate that the discussion you opened on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Link_rot#Mass_additions_of_archive_links_for_live_sites" title="Wikipedia talk:Link rot">Wikipedia talk:Link rot#Mass additions of archive links for live sites</a> is essentially a superset of the discussion I just proposed. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231001221100-Folly_Mox-20231001220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231001221100-Folly_Mox-20231001220900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231001221100-Folly_Mox-20231001220900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Umimmak-20231005212000-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span>I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but just wanted to note that resources in JSTOR: Global Plants have URLS of the form <span class="url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://plants.jstor.org/stable/10.5555/al.ap.person.bm000000658">plants<wbr/>.jstor<wbr/>.org<wbr/>/stable<wbr/>/10<wbr/>.5555<wbr/>/al<wbr/>.ap<wbr/>.person<wbr/>.bm000000658</a></span>, and that if a bot naively took any <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> including a "jstor.org/stable/XXXXX" to turn it into a <a href="/wiki/JSTOR_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="JSTOR (identifier)">JSTOR</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5555/al.ap.person.bm000000658">10.5555/al.ap.person.bm000000658</a> this would not work; occasionally JSTOR the website gets cited instead of a book/article it is hosting so just bots should be aware of this. <a href="/wiki/User:Umimmak" title="User:Umimmak">Umimmak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Umimmak" title="User talk:Umimmak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Umimmak-20231005212000-Ifly6-20231001193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Umimmak-20231005212000-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Umimmak-20231005212000-Ifly6-20231001193600"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> <span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024204100-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> because people are whiners. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024204100-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024204100-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024204100-Moving_Jstor_and_Worldcat_URLs_to_parameters"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proxy_cleanup?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proxy_cleanup?-20230927002500"><span id="Proxy_cleanup.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proxy_cleanup?-20230927002500"></span>Proxy cleanup?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proxy_cleanup?-20230927002500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20230927002500-Proxy_cleanup?"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20230927002500-Proxy_cleanup?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20230927002500-Proxy_cleanup?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20230927002500-Proxy_cleanup?"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_Ivy&diff=prev&oldid=1177270305">[8]</a> + more?</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_that_webpage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha-20231010110800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha-20231010110800"></span>Treating a release date for content on a webpage as the publication date for that webpage<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha-20231010110800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AKiwiDeerPin-20231010110800-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with a list of bad-date websites.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:AKiwiDeerPin" title="User:AKiwiDeerPin">AKiwiDeerPin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AKiwiDeerPin" title="User talk:AKiwiDeerPin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AKiwiDeerPin-20231010110800-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AKiwiDeerPin-20231010110800-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AKiwiDeerPin-20231010110800-Treating_a_release_date_for_content_on_a_webpage_as_the_publication_date_for_tha"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Uses metadata for media the webpage is about as metadata for the page itself (specifically, release/publication date). There are two comments on this page from within the last month, and several older comments, saying the bot changes web citations for pages about books to book citations; it seems to have problems handling webpages about other types of media.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Don't know exactly where it got the date from, but adding dates to web citations seems tricky to properly automate, so maybe it shouldn't try to do that? It probably shouldn't act like citations for a webpage about a work are equivalent to citations for that work.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1179343202">Diff here</a></span></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse-20231011145500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse-20231011145500"></span>Bot is not respecting Template:inuse<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse-20231011145500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koavf-20231011145500-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Notabug" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Notabug">notabug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, but users should use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nobots" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Nobots">nobots</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> right next to it. And then remove together.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko<b>a</b>vf</span>)</a><span style="color:red">❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Koavf-20231011145500-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-20231011145500-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-20231011145500-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231013224200-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot is not respecting <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Inuse" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Inuse">inuse</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Just stop.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Rest_%28EP%29&diff=1179644470&oldid=1179642372">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Rest_%28EP%29&diff=1179644470&oldid=1179642372</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> The bot never respected <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:In_use" title="Template:In use">in use</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> because very often people who use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:In_use" title="Template:In use">in use</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> will also use the bot to expand citations. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231013224200-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231013224200-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231013224200-Bot_is_not_respecting_Template:inuse"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koavf-20231013224700-Headbomb-20231013224200"></span>Then they can remove the tag and then run the bot. The bot should not cause edit conflicts by interfering when articles have this tag on them. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko<b>a</b><span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)</a><span style="color:red">❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Koavf-20231013224700-Headbomb-20231013224200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-20231013224700-Headbomb-20231013224200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-20231013224700-Headbomb-20231013224200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231014091400-Koavf-20231013224700"></span>The tag is often put to tell others to not edit the article so the bot can make its edits. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231014091400-Koavf-20231013224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231014091400-Koavf-20231013224700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231014091400-Koavf-20231013224700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koavf-20231014103100-Headbomb-20231014091400"></span>That's not how it should work: all bots should respect the tag. Other bots do and one should expect it to not edit with the tag on an article. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko<b>a</b><span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)</a><span style="color:red">❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Koavf-20231014103100-Headbomb-20231014091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koavf-20231014103100-Headbomb-20231014091400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koavf-20231014103100-Headbomb-20231014091400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Michael_Metcalf" data-mw-thread-id="h-Michael_Metcalf-20231013144100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Michael_Metcalf-20231013144100"></span><a href="/wiki/Michael_Metcalf" title="Michael Metcalf">Michael Metcalf</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Michael_Metcalf-20231013144100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grimes2-20231013144100-Michael_Metcalf"></span>From my discussion page: Hi, I see that you have used citation bot to add dates to references to numismatics.org.uk webpages <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Metcalf&curid=58634391&diff=1179948613&oldid=1179836345">here</a>. I am not familiar with the bot, so could you explain what the dates mean? The pages seem to be updated regularly. </p><p>I think the bot is wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Grimes2-20231013144100-Michael_Metcalf" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20231013144100-Michael_Metcalf"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20231013144100-Michael_Metcalf"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231013160000-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span>Something (probably upstream in the Zotero libraries) is using <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">meta property="article:published_time"</code> instead of <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">meta property="article: modified_time"</code>. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231013160000-Grimes2-20231013144100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231013160000-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231013160000-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-49.237.203.59-20231024060600-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span>@Grimes2</a> No.bot <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/49.237.203.59" title="Special:Contributions/49.237.203.59">49.237.203.59</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:49.237.203.59&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:49.237.203.59 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-49.237.203.59-20231024060600-Grimes2-20231013144100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-49.237.203.59-20231024060600-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-49.237.203.59-20231024060600-Grimes2-20231013144100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203500-49.237.203.59-20231024060600"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> by adding to NO_DATE_WEBSITES array. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203500-49.237.203.59-20231024060600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203500-49.237.203.59-20231024060600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203500-49.237.203.59-20231024060600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Publisher_removed_from_cite_book" data-mw-thread-id="h-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book-20231015232600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book-20231015232600"></span>Publisher removed from cite book<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book-20231015232600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Umimmak-20231015232600-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with some code additions</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Umimmak" title="User:Umimmak">Umimmak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Umimmak" title="User talk:Umimmak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Umimmak-20231015232600-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Umimmak-20231015232600-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Umimmak-20231015232600-Publisher_removed_from_cite_book"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Publisher removed from cite book, not realizing that ProQuest was in fact the correct publisher (see copyright page <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781600301285/page/n11/mode/1up">[9]</a>)</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Publisher should not be removed from book citation</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lustrum_(journal)&curid=72440503&diff=1180192312&oldid=1176169375">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lustrum_(journal)&curid=72440503&diff=1180192312&oldid=1176169375</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Authors_incorrectly_added" data-mw-thread-id="h-Authors_incorrectly_added-20231020012100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Authors_incorrectly_added-20231020012100"></span>Authors incorrectly added<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Authors_incorrectly_added-20231020012100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kline-20231020012100-Authors_incorrectly_added"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. New Republic now only add one author.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Kline" title="User:Kline">Kline</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kline" title="User talk:Kline">talk to me!</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kline" title="Special:Contributions/Kline">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Kline-20231020012100-Authors_incorrectly_added" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kline-20231020012100-Authors_incorrectly_added"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kline-20231020012100-Authors_incorrectly_added"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>citation bot picks up authors from other articles and adds them to the citation</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>the author of the article should only be added</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war&diff=1180974861&oldid=1180961884">revision</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs-20231022043500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs-20231022043500"></span><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18760310" class="extiw" title="d:Q18760310">Finna</a> and <a href="/wiki/Elonet" title="Elonet">Elonet</a> are not book refs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs-20231022043500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Spring_of_the_Moonstone&diff=prev&oldid=1181288010"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs"></span>[10]</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88" title="Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88">2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500-Finna_and_Elonet_are_not_book_refs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231022050000-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span>This is the third thread about this behaviour visible on this talkpage, and I'm beginning to wonder why, when editors cite a source to <i>establish the existence of a book</i> it is ever less preferable to include the full publication information of the book, even when the route chosen to establish the book's existence is a website somewhere.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>I think the root solution here might be additional guidance about writing about books. Like, in <a href="/wiki/The_Spring_of_the_Moonstone" title="The Spring of the Moonstone">an article about a book</a>, just have a section in the appendix called <span class="serif-fonts" style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', FreeSerif, 'DejaVu Math TeX', 'URW Bookman L', serif;">Publication information</span>. For articles about authors, put their books in <span class="serif-fonts" style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', FreeSerif, 'DejaVu Math TeX', 'URW Bookman L', serif;">Selected bibliography</span>. I don't think this is the right kind of information for inside a citation template inside a pair of ref tags. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231022050000-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231022050000-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231022050000-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ifly6-20231023151700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span>I agree with Folly Mox. If the purpose of the citation is to establish the existence of a book, full publication information should always be preferred to a website which says the exact same thing. If I need to establish that <a href="/wiki/Erich_S_Gruen" class="mw-redirect" title="Erich S Gruen">Erich S Gruen</a> wrote <i>Last generation of the Roman republic</i> surely the best way to do that would be to give you all the information you would need to find that book in a library and confirm on the cover, title page, and verso for yourself. <a href="/wiki/User:Ifly6" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ifly6-20231023151700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ifly6-20231023151700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ifly6-20231023151700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span>And some more: <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moscow_Peace_Treaty&diff=prev&oldid=1119697636">edit 1</a> (a <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18760310" class="extiw" title="d:Q18760310">Finna</a> web page <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.finna.fi/Record/musketti.M012:HK19670603:43040#image">about an image</a>)</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pater_Noster_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=1163203401">edit 2</a> (a <a href="/wiki/Elonet" title="Elonet">Elonet</a> web page <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://elonet.finna.fi/Record/kavi.elonet_elokuva_146933">about a film</a>)</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Traffic_park&diff=prev&oldid=1089476494">edit 3</a> (a Finna web page <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.finna.fi/Record/hkm.2F2BE155-33CD-40CA-ABC3-C6FD741EFDB0">about an image</a>)</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saippuaprinsessa&diff=prev&oldid=1119957122">edit 4</a> (a Finna database entry <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.finna.fi/Record/fikka.3994813?lng=en-gb#versions">about different versions of a book</a>)</li></ul></dd> <dd>Probably some more can be found <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Finland+insource%3A%2F%5BCc%5Dite+book%5B%5E%5C%7D%5D%2Bfinna%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&limit=5000">among these</a> causing ref errors, e.g. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Order_of_Boyac%C3%A1&diff=prev&oldid=1149885794">[11]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian&diff=prev&oldid=1129140586">[12]</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6" title="Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6">2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:20AB:2C62:7318:4F88-20231022043500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400"></span>Also, not just <code>elonet.finna.fi</code> but also <code>elonet.fi</code> it seems: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ville_Juurikkala&diff=prev&oldid=1168021956">[13]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Eye_for_an_Eye_(1999_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1113632402">[14]</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Finland+insource%3A%2F%5BCc%5Dite+book%5B%5E%5C%7D%5D%2Belonet%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1">probably some more</a>). Please stop the bot from changing the citation templates of elonet.fi and finna.fi from "cite web" to "cite book", thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA" title="Special:Contributions/2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA">2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:8CDE:6F36:A6DA:6CE6-20231023181400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024202700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024202700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024202700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024202700-2001:14BA:9CE5:8400:79D9:9129:F234:CDFA-20231024200300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical-20231023065000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical-20231023065000"></span>Bot adding articles to <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical" title="Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical">Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical-20231023065000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20231023065000-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical"></span>At the <a href="/wiki/Kenny_Clarke" title="Kenny Clarke">Kenny Clarke</a> article in the oral history ref, the bot changes "Cite web" to "Cite journal" without changing any other parameters, causing this error message. While checking hidden categories on that page, I discovered that the bot did this in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1092633816" title="Special:Diff/1092633816">June 2022</a> and I <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1181466223" title="Special:Diff/1181466223">reproduced the problem</a> just now. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Graham87-20231023065000-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20231023065000-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20231023065000-Bot_adding_articles_to_Category:CS1_errors:_missing_periodical"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300-Graham87-20231023065000"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with special code for 10.7282 DOIs that have odd meta-data. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300-Graham87-20231023065000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300-Graham87-20231023065000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300-Graham87-20231023065000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024205600-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for all cases with no <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024205600-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024205600-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231024205600-AManWithNoPlan-20231024203300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journal_capitalization_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal_capitalization_2-20231025092300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal_capitalization_2-20231025092300"></span>Journal capitalization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal_capitalization_2-20231025092300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231025092300-Journal_capitalization_2"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User:Super Dromaeosaurus">Super Dromaeosaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231025092300-Journal_capitalization_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231025092300-Journal_capitalization_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231025092300-Journal_capitalization_2"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Another instance of improper journal capitalization. This time in Serbian.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Leave as is.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lunjina_Serbian%E2%80%93Aromanian_Association&curid=68483050&diff=1181795179&oldid=1168189121">[15]</a>. "i" is "and" in Serbian, not even in English should "and" be capitalized.</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="web_>_book_template_bug" data-mw-thread-id="h-web_>_book_template_bug-20230930125300"><span id="web_.3E_book_template_bug"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-web_>_book_template_bug-20230930125300"></span>web > book template bug<span data-mw-comment-end="h-web_>_book_template_bug-20230930125300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> by adding that website to special case code</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="font-family: Franklin Gothic Medium Cond; color: #b22e3e; font-size: 10pt;"><i>(chat!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug-1"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>template type altered from web to book</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>not that, since it generates an error and it's also not a book</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shoto_Todoroki&diff=prev&oldid=1177916086">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shoto_Todoroki&diff=prev&oldid=1177916086</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="font-family: Franklin Gothic Medium Cond; color: #b22e3e; font-size: 10pt;"><i>(chat!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20230930125300-web_>_book_template_bug-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter." data-mw-thread-id="h-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter.-20231027051700"><span id="Created_.7Bdead_link....7D_with_invalid_parameter."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter.-20231027051700"></span>Created {dead link...} with invalid parameter.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter.-20231027051700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A876-20231027051700-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter."></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with date being corrected. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Notabug" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Notabug">notabug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> on spaces, since they already existed and were not added. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> on rescuing, since we do not do that type of thing</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A876&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A876 (page does not exist)">A876</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A876" title="User talk:A876">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-A876-20231027051700-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A876-20231027051700-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A876-20231027051700-Created_{dead_link...}_with_invalid_parameter."></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>When {cite ...} has |url-status=dead but lacks |archive-url= and |archive-date= , Citation bot removes |url-status=dead and adds {dead link...} after, with parameter |dd mmmm yyyy.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd> </dd></dl> <ul><li>{dead link...} needs parameter |date=mmmm yyyy. (As changed by AnomieBOT and AManWithNoPlan.)</li> <li>Should have fixed all 4 places.</li> <li>Shouldn't insert a space before the <code>}}</code>.</li> <li>COULD HAVE done the rescues too (like #IABot), to get more done in one edit.</li></ul> <dl><dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1181995039" title="Special:Diff/1181995039">this diff</a></dd> <dt>Replication instructions</dt> <dd>Find a dead URL. Add |url-status=dead , but no |archive-url= and |archive-date=. Wait for Citation bot.</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> The first instance, starting from <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1181740062" title="Special:Diff/1181740062">my edit</a>: </p> <ul><li><code>|access-date=February 13, 2011 |url-status=dead}}</ref></code> (by me) (and 3 more like it) (Not official, though I don't see why.) (Nannyware keeps me from viewing any "archive" websites and/or I didn't have time.)</li> <li><code>|access-date=February 13, 2011 }}{{dead link|29 September 2023}}</ref></code> (by <b>Citation bot</b>, <i>Misc citation tidying...</i>) (Made it official, but wrong format) (only got 3 of 4 instances) (disoptimal - should be no space before the closing <code>}}</code>.</li> <li><code>|access-date=February 13, 2011 }}{{dead link|date=September 2023}}</ref></code> (by AnomieBOT, <i>Dating maintenance tags...</i>) (Corrected the 3 changed by Citation bot.)</li> <li>(by AManWithNoPlan, <i>properly flag dead link</i>) (Fixed the 4th instance to match the other 3.)</li> <li><code>|access-date=February 13, 2011 |archive-date=December 18, 2010 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101218224918/http://makingitbigcareers.com/books/making-it-big-in-software/mark-russinovich/ |url-status=dead }}</code> (by AManWithNoPlan), <i>Rescuing 4 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5)</i>) (disoptimal - field order should be |access-date= |url-status= |archive-url= |archive-date=.)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Config_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Config_issue-20231027190400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Config_issue-20231027190400"></span>Config issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Config_issue-20231027190400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Comfr-20231027190400-Config_issue"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> itself. Weird.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Comfr" title="User:Comfr">Comfr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Comfr" title="User talk:Comfr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Comfr-20231027190400-Config_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Comfr-20231027190400-Config_issue"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Comfr-20231027190400-Config_issue"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Today I do not see "Expand citations" in my tools menu. I do not know what caused it to disappear. </p> <dl><dd>Today I logged off and logged back onto Wikipedia, and Expand citation was back on my Tools menu.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf" data-mw-thread-id="h-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-20231102013300"><span id="MDPI_url_ending_in_.2Fpdf-vor_or_.2Fpdf"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-20231102013300"></span>MDPI url ending in /pdf-vor or /pdf<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-20231102013300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yuhuangdong_Grottoes&diff=prev&oldid=1183077516">[16]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wind_power_in_Romania&diff=prev&oldid=1183077858">[17]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>Treat as if /pdf-vor or /pdf isn't there. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231102013300-MDPI_url_ending_in_/pdf-vor_or_/pdf-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_finding_author_names" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_finding_author_names-20231102142700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_finding_author_names-20231102142700"></span>Not finding author names<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_finding_author_names-20231102142700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chidgk1-20231102142700-Not_finding_author_names"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> by rejecting 'object' as a name. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> adding correct authors, since it is a PDF</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Chidgk1" title="User:Chidgk1">Chidgk1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chidgk1" title="User talk:Chidgk1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chidgk1-20231102142700-Not_finding_author_names" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chidgk1-20231102142700-Not_finding_author_names"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chidgk1-20231102142700-Not_finding_author_names"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>uses "Object" as a name</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>add the 3 names Berberoglu, S, Cilek, A, Kirkby, M</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agriculture_in_Turkey&curid=15948548&diff=1183153893&oldid=1183153147">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agriculture_in_Turkey&curid=15948548&diff=1183153893&oldid=1183153147</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorrect_article_title_from_archive" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive-20231028100800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive-20231028100800"></span>Incorrect article title from archive<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive-20231028100800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231028100800-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> by rejecting "latin1" as a character set.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231028100800-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 28 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231028100800-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231028100800-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231029222600-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Incorrect article title</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1182285211" title="Special:Diff/1182285211">this</a> (or nothing)</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1182275615" title="Special:Diff/1182275615">this edit</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180312205216/http://www.zdnet.co.kr/news/news_view.asp?artice_id=20140408103154">https://web.archive.org/web/20180312205216/http://www.zdnet.co.kr/news/news_view.asp?artice_id=20140408103154</a> </p> <dl><dd>Another example: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1182437641" title="Special:Diff/1182437641">Special:Diff/1182437641</a> - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150314222820/http://kharkivoda.gov.ua/en/">https://web.archive.org/web/20150314222820/http://kharkivoda.gov.ua/en/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231029222600-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231029222600-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231029222600-Incorrect_article_title_from_archive"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Book_Chapter_Quotes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Book_Chapter_Quotes-20231101001500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Book_Chapter_Quotes-20231101001500"></span>Book Chapter Quotes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Book_Chapter_Quotes-20231101001500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Susmuffin-20231101001500-Book_Chapter_Quotes"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>―<a href="/wiki/User:Susmuffin" title="User:Susmuffin"><span style="color:#8B008B;"><i><b>Susmuffin</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Susmuffin" title="User talk:Susmuffin"><sup><span style="color:#8B008B;"><i><b>Talk</b></i></span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Susmuffin-20231101001500-Book_Chapter_Quotes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 1 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Susmuffin-20231101001500-Book_Chapter_Quotes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Susmuffin-20231101001500-Book_Chapter_Quotes"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>The bot replaced singular quotation marks with double ones in the title of a book chapter, causing citation style issues.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Not that</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1182885667">[18]</a></span></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text" data-mw-thread-id="h-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text-20231102100800"><span id="watch_out_for_usurped_websites.2C_importing_spam_text"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text-20231102100800"></span>watch out for usurped websites, importing spam text<span data-mw-comment-end="h-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text-20231102100800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-20231102100800-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, since that title is too rare. We do block a lot</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>— <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:smaller"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Billinghurst-20231102100800-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-20231102100800-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-20231102100800-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20231102135700-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>when the bot is running and it pulls in titles it is pulling in title of usurped websites, so the title is spam</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>there should be a blacklist of terms that are not able to be applied, and ideally would help report usurp sites</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1175534976" title="Special:Diff/1175534976">special:diff/1175534976</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>This is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JUDI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JUDI">WP:JUDI</a> gambling site. They should be reported to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JUDI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JUDI">WP:JUDI</a>, so they can be repaired by the automated processes there. There are many 100s of domains, and more being added all the time. It's never ending. If you do match on these titles, it's important to know which domains, so I can usurp them. Currently I find them by looking for spam titles in the wiki code, most often added by Citation bot. If CB were to stop adding these titles, it would be very difficult to find the usurped domains. I've added khyber.org to the list: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1179566502/1183150376" title="Special:Diff/1179566502/1183150376">Special:Diff/1179566502/1183150376</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GreenC-20231102135700-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20231102135700-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20231102135700-watch_out_for_usurped_websites,_importing_spam_text"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cosmetic_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cosmetic_edit-20231102193100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cosmetic_edit-20231102193100"></span>Cosmetic edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cosmetic_edit-20231102193100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231102193100-Cosmetic_edit"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, since it is very rare. The juice is not worth the squeeze.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231102193100-Cosmetic_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231102193100-Cosmetic_edit"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231102193100-Cosmetic_edit"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400-Cosmetic_edit"></span>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rail_transport_in_South_Korea&curid=7215011&diff=1183183659&oldid=1174266032">[19]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> That is super odd. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400-Cosmetic_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400-Cosmetic_edit"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400-Cosmetic_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005600-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400"></span>The bot adds something and then removes it during the clean-up phase at the end. The net result is that the missing space is added. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005600-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005600-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005600-AManWithNoPlan-20231102212400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_breaking_refs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_breaking_refs-20231102220500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_breaking_refs-20231102220500"></span>Bot breaking refs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_breaking_refs-20231102220500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Right-wing_populism&diff=prev&oldid=1183204126"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20231102220500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span>changing a date to today</a> and breaking a ref in the process. I am sick and tired of Citation bot going around breaking sfn refs willy nilly. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-DuncanHill-20231102220500-Bot_breaking_refs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20231102220500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20231102220500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span> </p><p><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> the bug that was causing extra book clean-ups. But, no idea where that date came from. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005500-Bot_breaking_refs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105005500-Bot_breaking_refs"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_ignores_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_ignores_comments-20231103225500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_ignores_comments-20231103225500"></span>Bot ignores comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_ignores_comments-20231103225500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231103225500-Bot_ignores_comments"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231103225500-Bot_ignores_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231103225500-Bot_ignores_comments"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231103225500-Bot_ignores_comments"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nakba_denial&curid=75102749&diff=1183259207&oldid=1183239479">[20]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="title/chapter" data-mw-thread-id="h-title/chapter-20231104082900"><span id="title.2Fchapter"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-title/chapter-20231104082900"></span>title/chapter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-title/chapter-20231104082900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boghog-20231104082900-title/chapter"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Boghog" title="User:Boghog">Boghog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boghog" title="User talk:Boghog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Boghog-20231104082900-title/chapter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boghog-20231104082900-title/chapter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boghog-20231104082900-title/chapter"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bordetella+pertussis&diff=prev&oldid=1183434039">[21]</a> in <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=Medical Microbiology</code> replaced with the name of the chapter</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours" data-mw-thread-id="h-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours-20231104220700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours-20231104220700"></span><s>Two</s> Four Weird Behaviours<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours-20231104220700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UndercoverClassicist-20231104220700-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">Fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> several different ways including dates that are today.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><i><a href="/wiki/User:UndercoverClassicist" title="User:UndercoverClassicist"><b style="color:#7F007F">UndercoverClassicist</b></a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:UndercoverClassicist" title="User talk:UndercoverClassicist">T</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/UndercoverClassicist" title="Special:Contributions/UndercoverClassicist">C</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-UndercoverClassicist-20231104220700-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UndercoverClassicist-20231104220700-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UndercoverClassicist-20231104220700-Two_Four_Weird_Behaviours"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><s>Two</s> <b>Four</b> strange things seem to have happened sporadically in this edit:</dd></dl> <p>1. Bot seems to be replacing (only very occasionally) "year=[a year]" with "date=[today's date]" - there seems to be no particular pattern to which sources these are, and none of them are 2023 sources.<br/> 2. Where a journal is published in single-issue volumes (this particular one is <i>Archaeological Reports</i>, the bot has erroneously expanded "volume=14" to "volume=14|issue=14", though no issue 14 that year or ever existed.<br/> (Edit:) 3. Replaced: </p> <dl><dd><code>{{cite book| last=Gates| first=Charles| year=2004| chapter=The Adoption of Pictorial Imagery in Minoan Wall Painting: A Comparativist Perspective| series=Hesperia Supplements| title= ΧΑΡΙΣ: Essays in Honor of Sara A. Immerwahr| editor-last=Chapin| editor-first=Anne P.| publisher=American School of Classical Studies at Athens| place=Athens| isbn=978-0-87661-533-1| pages=27–46| jstor=1354061}}</code></dd></dl> <p>with <code>{{cite book| last=Gates| first=Charles| title=The Adoption of Pictorial Imagery in Minoan Wall Painting: A Comparativist Perspective| series=Hesperia Supplements| date=4 November 2023| volume=33| editor-last=Chapin| editor-first=Anne P.| publisher=American School of Classical Studies at Athens| place=Athens| isbn=978-0-87661-533-1| pages=27–46| jstor=1354061}}</code> </p><p>Overriding the (correct) description of this article as a chapter in a <i>Festschrift</i> and that <i>Festschrift'</i>s title. </p><p>4. It added the page range 1-370 to a cite book template, where the whole book is being cited. </p> <dl><dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spyridon_Marinatos&curid=627855&diff=1183531038&oldid=1183112956">[22]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-20231017091200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-20231017091200"></span>Strip underscore from authorlinks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-20231017091200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hyalospheniidae&diff=prev&oldid=1180544034">[23]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>And similar wikilink parameters. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231017091200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks-1"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span>The following? (this would be compared after removing numbers and dashes): </p> <pre>authorlink chapterlink contributorlink editorlink episodelink interviewerlink inventorlink serieslink subjectlink titlelink translatorlink </pre> <p><a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200-Strip_underscore_from_authorlinks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231025203900-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200"></span>I think so, yes. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231025203900-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231025203900-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231025203900-AManWithNoPlan-20231025132200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231025204700-Headbomb-20231025203900"></span>No such thing as <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter-link=</code>.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231025204700-Headbomb-20231025203900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231025204700-Headbomb-20231025203900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231025204700-Headbomb-20231025203900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Creates_title_with_replacement_character" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creates_title_with_replacement_character-20231105041300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Creates_title_with_replacement_character-20231105041300"></span>Creates title with replacement character<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Creates_title_with_replacement_character-20231105041300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231105041300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Notabug" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Notabug">notabug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> sadly</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231105041300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231105041300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231105041300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183527473" title="Special:Diff/1183527473">this edit</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183572397" title="Special:Diff/1183572397">this edit</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> That is the title CrossRef has <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://search.crossref.org/?from_ui=yes&q=10.1063%2Fpt.6.4.20200327a">https://search.crossref.org/?from_ui=yes&q=10.1063%2Fpt.6.4.20200327a</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231105134200-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300"></span>Is there a way Citation bot could check to see if its output matches any characters like that, and decline to fill the value if it does? GIGO is still undesirable behaviour that can be addressed. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231105134200-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231105134200-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231105134200-AManWithNoPlan-20231105122300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231105183900-Folly_Mox-20231105134200"></span>A title with partial garbage beats no title at all. Especially since corrupt characters are easily reviewable and rarely last more than a few hours on Wikipedia. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231105183900-Folly_Mox-20231105134200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231105183900-Folly_Mox-20231105134200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231105183900-Folly_Mox-20231105134200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231105192800-Headbomb-20231105183900"></span>How will Citation bot know not to alter an existing title to an incorrect one if it doesn't check its output for obvious errors, like a glyph not used in any language? I don't agree that known incorrect output is superior to declining to return a value, but I understand that's probably a philosophical position: software limitations are safer than software errors. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231105192800-Headbomb-20231105183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231105192800-Headbomb-20231105183900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231105192800-Headbomb-20231105183900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20231105163200-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span>Below is a method to detect replacement characters. (Not pretty but works.) I added some inline comments because it's an obscure language <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style> </p> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">isbinary() in Nim</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <pre># # Return true if string contains a 'replacement' or binary character (black diamond with ? in middle) # Based on: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/474709/how-to-grep-for-unicode-in-a-bash-script/474812#474812 # Requires a secondary shell layer so UTF-8 works # tcsh -s 'grep -axv ".*" <filename>' # proc isbinary*(s: string): bool {.discardable.} = result = false # default return value let tmpfile = mktempname(GX.ramdir & "isbinary.") # Generate a temporary and unique filename "isbinary.xxx" to be located in a ramdisk directory for speed s >* tmpfile # Write the string to the tempfile let command1 = "tcsh -c 'grep -axv \".*\" \"" & tmpfile & "\" | wc -l'" # need to use tcsh -c for UTF-8 to work. Bash with similar -c might also work. let c1 = runshellBasic(command1) # run the shell command and capture output to c1 if strip(c1) !~ "^0$": # If the output is not "0" (only) then it contains a replacement character. result = true removeFile(tmpfile) # Delete the temp file and return 'result' </pre> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC#top" title="User talk:GreenC">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreenC" title="Special:Contributions/GreenC">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GreenC-20231105163200-Creates_title_with_replacement_character" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20231105163200-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20231105163200-Creates_title_with_replacement_character"></span> </p><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231105192600-GreenC-20231105163200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a>:</span> Thank you for the explanation. I reported the issue to Crossref. <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231105192600-GreenC-20231105163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231105192600-GreenC-20231105163200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231105192600-GreenC-20231105163200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?-20231106085600"><span id="Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?-20231106085600"></span>Enhancement request - Could new OECD data site be supported?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?-20231106085600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chidgk1-20231106085600-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - dynamic javascripte controlled title-less webpages, and the bot uses <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation">https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation</a> which is outside our control</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Chidgk1" title="User:Chidgk1">Chidgk1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chidgk1" title="User talk:Chidgk1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chidgk1-20231106085600-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 6 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chidgk1-20231106085600-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chidgk1-20231106085600-Enhancement_request_-_Could_new_OECD_data_site_be_supported?"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>nothing</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>As this new site at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://data-explorer.oecd.org/">https://data-explorer.oecd.org/</a> will presumably be useful for very many articles it would be great if citation bot could fill in the tedious details - for example for the first cite in <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_Turkey#Subsidies" title="Agriculture in Turkey">Agriculture_in_Turkey#Subsidies</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations-20231106090800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations-20231106090800"></span>Enhancement request - support more pdfs from major organisations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations-20231106090800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chidgk1-20231106090800-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations"></span>As you know the "automatic" option in the Visual Editor cite button does not support any pdfs, perhaps because it would be too slow. As this bot is not constrained as much for time it would be great if the bot could expand more pdfs from major organisations. For example the second cite in <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_Turkey#Subsidies" title="Agriculture in Turkey">Agriculture_in_Turkey#Subsidies</a> namely <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.g20.org/content/dam/gtwenty/gtwenty_new/document/G20_Report_on_Macroeconomic_impacts.pdf">https://www.g20.org/content/dam/gtwenty/gtwenty_new/document/G20_Report_on_Macroeconomic_impacts.pdf</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Chidgk1" title="User:Chidgk1">Chidgk1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chidgk1" title="User talk:Chidgk1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chidgk1-20231106090800-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chidgk1-20231106090800-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chidgk1-20231106090800-Enhancement_request_-_support_more_pdfs_from_major_organisations"></span> </p><p><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - PDF files, and the bot uses <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation">https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation</a> which is outside our control </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded" data-mw-thread-id="h-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded-20231106100900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded-20231106100900"></span>Could dergipark.org.tr journals be expanded<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded-20231106100900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chidgk1-20231106100900-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - PDF files, and the bot uses <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation">https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Citation/getCitation</a> which is outside our control</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Chidgk1" title="User:Chidgk1">Chidgk1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chidgk1" title="User talk:Chidgk1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chidgk1-20231106100900-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chidgk1-20231106100900-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chidgk1-20231106100900-Could_dergipark.org.tr_journals_be_expanded"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>nothing - at least one dergipark.org.tr journal not being expanded</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>it would be good if they could be expanded as there are a lot of journals on that cite - I am not sure how many are affected. If this is a problem on their side I could contact them if you tell me what to ask them</dd> <dt>Replication instructions</dt> <dd>Run on <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_Turkey" title="Agriculture in Turkey">Agriculture in Turkey</a> and see whether the cite at the end of the sentence about einkorn gets expanded</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=" data-mw-thread-id="h-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=-20231107140500"><span id="adds_.7Cchapter.3D_to_.7B.7Bcitation.7D.7D_templates_that_have_.7Cwork.3D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=-20231107140500"></span>adds |chapter= to {{citation}} templates that have |work=<span data-mw-comment-end="h-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=-20231107140500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107140500-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work="></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a>}}</code> is such a pain to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=with</code></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107140500-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work=" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107140500-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work="></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107140500-adds_|chapter=_to_{{citation}}_templates_that_have_|work="></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>adds <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code> to <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a>}}</code> templates that have <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code>. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code> (aliases: <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|magazine=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|newspaper=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|periodical=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|website=</code>) configures <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> as a periodical template. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code> (aliases <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|contribution=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|entry=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|article=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|section=</code>) is not supported in the cs1 periodical templates (<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a>}}</code>, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_magazine" title="Template:Cite magazine">cite magazine</a>}}</code>, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news" title="Template:Cite news">cite news</a>}}</code>, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_periodical" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite periodical">cite periodical</a>}}</code>, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a>}}</code>) and not supported in the cs2 <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> template when it is configured as a periodical template.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>These particular <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> templates are best written as <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_Australian_Dictionary_of_Biography" title="Template:Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography">cite Australian Dictionary of Biography</a>}}</code> templates. In no case should the bot add a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code> alias to <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> when there is a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code> alias with an assigned value present in <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span>.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183892109" title="Special:Diff/1183892109">Special:Diff/1183892109</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183891942" title="Special:Diff/1183891942">Special:Diff/1183891942</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183927757" title="Special:Diff/1183927757">Special:Diff/1183927757</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183891483" title="Special:Diff/1183891483">Special:Diff/1183891483</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="weird_journal_overwriting" data-mw-thread-id="h-weird_journal_overwriting-20231107042900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-weird_journal_overwriting-20231107042900"></span>weird journal overwriting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-weird_journal_overwriting-20231107042900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231107042900-weird_journal_overwriting"></span>Status</dt> <dd>GIGO <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231107042900-weird_journal_overwriting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231107042900-weird_journal_overwriting"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231107042900-weird_journal_overwriting"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231107074800-weird_journal_overwriting"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Casimir_effect&diff=prev&oldid=1183897003">[24]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>leave it alone</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>This is the sort of thing that happens when you have a bot whose entire philosophy is "anything the publisher says must be correct and any deviation from that by the person who formatted the citation in the first place must be an error". That aside, the citation was garbage to begin with, as you might have guessed. The doi and editors go to the book "Casimir physics", the arxiv goes to a chapter inside the book (whose author and title are not mentioned), and the pmid and authors go to a different paper "Casimir physics". It looks like the sort of thing that happens when one bot makes a mistake and adds the wrong id to a citation and another bot runs with it to fill in all the details and remove the other details that don't fit. In the long run as humans get tired of chasing after bot mistakes all our citations will become this garbled. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231107074800-weird_journal_overwriting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231107074800-weird_journal_overwriting"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231107074800-weird_journal_overwriting"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000-David_Eppstein-20231107074800"></span>So much GIGO in that reference. I have cleaned up the reference and removed the bogus PMID, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000-David_Eppstein-20231107074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000-David_Eppstein-20231107074800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000-David_Eppstein-20231107074800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231107212600-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000"></span>I didn't even notice the GIGO. That was a bad one. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231107212600-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231107212600-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231107212600-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please-20231107122100"><span id="Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_.22function_summary.22_please"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please-20231107122100"></span>Could a simple overview be added to the "function summary" please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please-20231107122100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chidgk1-20231107122100-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please"></span>Although this is a very useful bot I am struggling to understand what it can and cannot do and how it works. </p><p>I recently submitted a bug report, and a couple of enhancement requests asking if the bot could be run on pdf files and they were immediately closed because there is an api which is "outside our control". </p><p>Could the "function summary" be rewritten with a first paragraph to explain what the bot does in very simple terms and a second para to explain how it works in very simple terms and relegate the technical explanation to later paragraphs? </p><p>Also it would be useful if the "won't fix" could be left here for a couple of days for us to read rather than being immediately archived. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Chidgk1" title="User:Chidgk1">Chidgk1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chidgk1" title="User talk:Chidgk1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chidgk1-20231107122100-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chidgk1-20231107122100-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chidgk1-20231107122100-Could_a_simple_overview_be_added_to_the_"function_summary"_please"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300-Chidgk1-20231107122100"></span>You can always read the archives. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300-Chidgk1-20231107122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300-Chidgk1-20231107122100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300-Chidgk1-20231107122100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300"></span>Lack of PDF support added to description. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500-AManWithNoPlan-20231107141300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231111022300-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500"></span>documentation <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231111022300-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231111022300-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231111022300-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_conferences:_10.21437/..." data-mw-thread-id="h-More_conferences:_10.21437/...-20231109031000"><span id="More_conferences:_10.21437.2F..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_conferences:_10.21437/...-20231109031000"></span>More conferences: 10.21437/...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_conferences:_10.21437/...-20231109031000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231109031000-More_conferences:_10.21437/..."></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231109031000-More_conferences:_10.21437/..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 9 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231109031000-More_conferences:_10.21437/..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231109031000-More_conferences:_10.21437/..."></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Janigog&diff=prev&oldid=1184227448">[25]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Sproat&diff=prev&oldid=1184227522">[26]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikkimese_language&diff=prev&oldid=1184227640">[27]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Compressed_sensing_in_speech_signals&diff=prev&oldid=1184227668">[28]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Roach_(phonetician)&diff=prev&oldid=1184227825">[29]</a>, ...</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-20231110224100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-20231110224100"></span>Caps: Antibiotiki i Khimioterapiia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-20231110224100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riamilovir&diff=prev&oldid=1184518817">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riamilovir&diff=prev&oldid=1184518817</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>And it should leave every other 'I' alone too. This is particularly annoying. The only 'I' that needs capitalization are those from Part I, Section I, etc... <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231110224100-Caps:_Antibiotiki_i_Khimioterapiia-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_broke_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_broke_template-20231112041800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_broke_template-20231112041800"></span>Edit broke template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_broke_template-20231112041800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231112041800-Edit_broke_template"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231112041800-Edit_broke_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231112041800-Edit_broke_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231112041800-Edit_broke_template"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1184699965" title="Special:Diff/1184699965">This edit</a> added the template to <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_redundant_parameter" title="Category:CS1 errors: redundant parameter">Category:CS1 errors: redundant parameter</a>, so I reverted the edit</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Leave the template alone</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Caps:_iSciences" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caps:_iSciences-20231119074900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caps:_iSciences-20231119074900"></span>Caps: iSciences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caps:_iSciences-20231119074900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231119074900-Caps:_iSciences"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231119074900-Caps:_iSciences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231119074900-Caps:_iSciences"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231119074900-Caps:_iSciences"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chao-Jun_Li&diff=prev&oldid=1185831735">[30]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-20231120120600"><span id="Adding_CS1.7C2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-20231120120600"></span>Adding CS1|2 templates to bare URLs badly<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-20231120120600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Not_a_bug" title="Template:Not a bug">not a bug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-1"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1186015763" title="Special:Diff/1186015763">Special:Diff/1186015763</a>: Citation bot takes a bare URL, and wraps it in <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, adding a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> parameter scraped from <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">meta</code> tags in the HTML header, and absolutely nothing else.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1186017469" title="Special:Diff/1186017469">Special:Diff/1186017469</a>: actual citation information is added to the reference, based on the source.</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p> If the goal is to wrap a URL in a citation template so Internet Archive picks it up, and there's no good translators available for the domain, just set the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=(URL)</code> so it's obvious the citation is incomplete and needs work. This sort of lazy not-citation is essentially worthless, and encourages people to use scripts for tasks the scripts are not ready to handle, instead of putting in the one minute of work it takes to create a real citation by looking at the source.</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p>If Citation bot can't figure out anything from the URL except the title, it should either leave the link alone, set the title to the URL, or tag its change with a template like <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Citation_needs_human_review&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Citation needs human review (page does not exist)">citation needs human review</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> so this sort of garbage can be tracked.</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p>Apologies for the strong language, but if we train a whole generation of editors to rely on pushbutton non-solutions, the maintenance burden of trash citations is going to outpace our capacity and never be fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231120120600-Adding_CS1|2_templates_to_bare_URLs_badly-1"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231126151200-Folly_Mox-20231120120600"></span>I hate this, and I'm not sure it has consensus, but even I know it's not a bug. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Cancelled_process_mini.svg/30px-Cancelled_process_mini.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Cancelled_process_mini.svg/44px-Cancelled_process_mini.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Cancelled_process_mini.svg/59px-Cancelled_process_mini.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="292" data-file-height="198"/></span></span> <b>Request withdrawn</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231126151200-Folly_Mox-20231120120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231126151200-Folly_Mox-20231120120600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231126151200-Folly_Mox-20231120120600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha" data-mw-thread-id="h-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha-20231125080800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha-20231125080800"></span>Garbage title from scraping captcha<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha-20231125080800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125080800-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231125080800-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125080800-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231125080800-Garbage_title_from_scraping_captcha"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>attempts to fix "Archived copy as title" by scraping metadata from captcha</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>basic sanity checking should be done on proposed output before committing edit</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186756111" title="Special:MobileDiff/1186756111">Special:MobileDiff/1186756111</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI,_much_like_Category:CS1_errors:_DOI_and_the_others" data-mw-thread-id="h-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D-20231125173100"><span id="Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI.2C_much_like_Category:CS1_errors:_DOI_and_the_others"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D-20231125173100"></span>Allow 1-click activation of category run on <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_DOI" title="Category:CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI">Category:CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI</a>, much like <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_DOI" title="Category:CS1 errors: DOI">Category:CS1 errors: DOI</a> and the others<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D-20231125173100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231125173100-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231125173100-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231125173100-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231125173100-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231126122300-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>Also <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_dates" title="Category:CS1 errors: dates">Category:CS1 errors: dates</a> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231126122300-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231126122300-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231126122300-Allow_1-click_activation_of_category_run_on_Category:CS1_maint:_unflagged_free_D"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine" data-mw-thread-id="h-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine-20231124032100"><span id="TNT_journal_.3D_National_Library_of_Medicine"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine-20231124032100"></span>TNT journal = National Library of Medicine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine-20231124032100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231124032100-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - obscure and sometimes correct, in which case should be work or website.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231124032100-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231124032100-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231124032100-TNT_journal_=_National_Library_of_Medicine"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R1a-SUR51&diff=prev&oldid=1186574893">[31]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="For_books,_fetch_publishers" data-mw-thread-id="h-For_books,_fetch_publishers-20231125140100"><span id="For_books.2C_fetch_publishers"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-For_books,_fetch_publishers-20231125140100"></span>For books, fetch publishers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-For_books,_fetch_publishers-20231125140100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231125140100-For_books,_fetch_publishers"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - CrossRef does not support</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231125140100-For_books,_fetch_publishers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231125140100-For_books,_fetch_publishers"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231125140100-For_books,_fetch_publishers"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Topology_optimization&diff=prev&oldid=1186789990">[32]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="biorxiv_is_not_a_journal" data-mw-thread-id="h-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231125172300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231125172300"></span>biorxiv is not a journal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231125172300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231125172300-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>—<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231125172300-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231125172300-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231125172300-biorxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Citation bot sees a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with a doi url, but the url goes to bioarxiv, tries to convert it to cite journal, and fails, producing a buggy citation with no periodical</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>not that</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1186759015" title="Special:Diff/1186759015">Special:Diff/1186759015</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="last1=(punctuation_mark)" data-mw-thread-id="h-last1=(punctuation_mark)-20231125213800"><span id="last1.3D.28punctuation_mark.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-last1=(punctuation_mark)-20231125213800"></span>last1=(punctuation mark)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-last1=(punctuation_mark)-20231125213800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125213800-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231125213800-last1=(punctuation_mark)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125213800-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231125213800-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231126163600-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>adds bogus parameter consisting wholly of punctuation</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>basic sanity checking should be performed on proposed output before edit is published</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186845416" title="Special:MobileDiff/1186845416">Special:MobileDiff/1186845416</a>. Here, Citation bot provides the obviously erroneous <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|last1=&#124</code> (the pipe character <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">|</code>).</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>Another instance of this same error at <a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1186954603" title="Special:MobileDiff/1186954603">Special:MobileDiff/1186954603</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231126163600-last1=(punctuation_mark)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231126163600-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231126163600-last1=(punctuation_mark)"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-20231116000200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-20231116000200"></span>Better IEEE Xplore handling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-20231116000200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> mostly, not all is doable without human help</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-1"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=294_(number)&diff=prev&oldid=1185320665">[33]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=294_(number)&diff=1185321095&oldid=1181552764">[34]</a>+<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=294_(number)&diff=prev&oldid=1185321437">[35]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>The garbage human-entered title prevented the full expansion. Wondering if we can't just yeet the title out <i>when converting a cite web to a cite journal/book</i> for ieeexplore links. It's a highly-reliable database. Either way, the website= parameter should be nuked. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231116000200-Better_IEEE_Xplore_handling-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IEEE_Xplore_part_deux" data-mw-thread-id="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux-20231116000600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux-20231116000600"></span>IEEE Xplore part deux<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux-20231116000600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231116000600-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> mostly, not all is doable without human help. Some things will still require multiple edits, since the bot does things in a certain order and re-checking everything for a few rare cases can really slow the bot down</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231116000600-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 16 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231116000600-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231116000600-IEEE_Xplore_part_deux"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstract_syntax&diff=prev&oldid=1185321158">[36]</a>+<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstract_syntax&diff=next&oldid=1185321158">[37]</a>+<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstract_syntax&diff=next&oldid=1185321766">[38]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Should happen in one edit, including <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstract_syntax&diff=next&oldid=1185321766">[39]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings-20231119011600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings-20231119011600"></span>Better handling of SPIE proceedings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings-20231119011600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231119011600-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - limited by meta-data.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231119011600-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231119011600-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231119011600-Better_handling_of_SPIE_proceedings"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Time-domain_diffuse_optics&diff=prev&oldid=1185791812">[40]</a></dd></dl> <p>and </p><p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thirty_Meter_Telescope&diff=prev&oldid=1185792276">[41]</a> (here I manually switched <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|series=</code> </p> <dl><dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters-20231123184500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters-20231123184500"></span>Reordering splits up author parameters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters-20231123184500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231123184500-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - thank you for reporting this</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>—<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231123184500-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231123184500-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231123184500-Reordering_splits_up_author_parameters"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>I always find it difficult to edit author parameters when they are split up into different parts of the template, separated from each other. In <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1186468004" title="Special:Diff/1186468004">Special:Diff/1186468004</a>, beyond cosmetic edits and a minor capitalization change, that is exactly what the bot did: it moved a title from later in the template to a new position between the author and author-link parameters.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Not that</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title-20231130231700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title-20231130231700"></span>arXiv-to-journal-conversion upcases article title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title-20231130231700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231700-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> with better CrossRef parsing</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>—<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231130231700-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231700-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231700-arXiv-to-journal-conversion_upcases_article_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>As part of the conversion of an arXiv preprint reference to a journal publication reference (fortunately, mostly correct this time, except that the article text stating when the publication occurred needed to be edited to match) it changed the article title from sentence-case to title-case</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Not that</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187705641" title="Special:Diff/1187705641">Special:Diff/1187705641</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title-20231130231900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title-20231130231900"></span>arXiv-to-journal conversion breaks math formula formatting in title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title-20231130231900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231900-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>—<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231130231900-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231900-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231130231900-arXiv-to-journal_conversion_breaks_math_formula_formatting_in_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>As part of the same conversion of an arXiv preprint reference to a journal publication reference as the previous bug, it changed the mathematical formulas in the article title from wiki-formatted math (with <math>) to TeX-formatted math with dollar signs</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Not that</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187705641" title="Special:Diff/1187705641">Special:Diff/1187705641</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Messing_with_correct_citation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Messing_with_correct_citation-20231201120600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Messing_with_correct_citation-20231201120600"></span>Messing with correct citation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Messing_with_correct_citation-20231201120600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231201120600-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> for this source</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Michael_Bednarek-20231201120600-Messing_with_correct_citation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231201120600-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231201120600-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231201125500-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>introduced CS1 error <code>"|work= ignored"</code></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Nothing; the citation was fine.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187788448" title="Special:Diff/1187788448">Special:diff/1187788448</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>Last week or the week before, I fixed a lot of instances of this error introduced by Citation bot, and I noticed but did not mention that the "BnF catalog" source seemed to be a major stumbling block. I'm not sure why Citation bot thinks it's a book, but it's common enough and invariably incorrect enough that the source could probably be put on some sort of exclusion list rather than coding more complicated logic. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231201125500-Messing_with_correct_citation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231201125500-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231201125500-Messing_with_correct_citation"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document-20231202111400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document-20231202111400"></span>Incorrect changing to cite document<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document-20231202111400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isaidnoway-20231202111400-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> to match VERY recent changes to cite document, not years.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Isaidnoway" title="User:Isaidnoway"><b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:black"> <i>Isaidnoway</i> </b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isaidnoway" title="User talk:Isaidnoway"><b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF5F1F"><i>(talk)</i></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Isaidnoway-20231202111400-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isaidnoway-20231202111400-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isaidnoway-20231202111400-Incorrect_changing_to_cite_document"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot changes citation to cite document when no publisher= parameter is present as required by that template, and the url= parameter and access-date= parameter is not used by cite document either. This issue has been going on for years.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Stop changing to cite document when no publisher parameter is present</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zome&diff=1187921488&oldid=1187424537">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zome&diff=1187921488&oldid=1187424537</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"-20231113223300"><span id="Does_not_fix_.22zero_width_space_character_in_.7Ctitle.3D_at_position_1.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"-20231113223300"></span>Does not fix "zero width space character in |title= at position 1"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"-20231113223300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231113223300-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1""></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231113223300-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231113223300-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231113223300-Does_not_fix_"zero_width_space_character_in_|title=_at_position_1""></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>The bot fixes many errors in <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_invisible_characters" title="Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters">Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters</a>, but not "<code>zero width space character in |title= at position 1</code>"</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1184996352" title="Special:Diff/1184996352">this edit</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journal_capitalization_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal_capitalization_3-20231202194400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal_capitalization_3-20231202194400"></span>Journal capitalization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal_capitalization_3-20231202194400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202194400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Not_a_bug" title="Template:Not a bug">not a bug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User:Super Dromaeosaurus">Super Dromaeosaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202194400-Journal_capitalization_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202194400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202194400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231202205400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Capitalized journal name.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Don't capitalize it. Searching it in Google will show it's most commonly written without capitalizing each word. See also its official website <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.istvc.org/hyphen.html">[42]</a>.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Markides_Pouliou_brothers&diff=prev&oldid=1187988229">[43]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> On Wikipedia, we follow <a href="/wiki/MOS:TITLECAPS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:TITLECAPS">MOS:TITLECAPS</a>. If journals want to style themselves differently, that's is up to them, but we're not bound to follow. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231202205400-Journal_capitalization_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231202205400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231202205400-Journal_capitalization_3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100-Headbomb-20231202205400"></span>The bot isn't even following this policy you've cited. It capitalised the indefinite article "a" which is not allowed by the policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User:Super Dromaeosaurus">Super Dromaeosaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Super_Dromaeosaurus" title="User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100-Headbomb-20231202205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100-Headbomb-20231202205400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100-Headbomb-20231202205400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231202211000-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100"></span>You capitalize the start of subtitles. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231202211000-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231202211000-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231202211000-Super_Dromaeosaurus-20231202210100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231202211300-Headbomb-20231202211000"></span>That would make sense if it were a subtitle set off by a colon. But here, it follows a comma, which would not usually force capitalization of the next word. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231202211300-Headbomb-20231202211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231202211300-Headbomb-20231202211000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231202211300-Headbomb-20231202211000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates-20231202230400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates-20231202230400"></span>Enable 1-click activation of <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_dates" title="Category:CS1 errors: dates">Category:CS1 errors: dates</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates-20231202230400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231202230400-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span>Per the update description in the category. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231202230400-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231202230400-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231202230400-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203021300-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203021300-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203021300-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203021300-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_errors:_dates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason" data-mw-thread-id="h-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason-20231203094000"><span id="changes_cite_journal_.E2.86.92_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason-20231203094000"></span>changes cite journal → cite book for no apparent reason<span data-mw-comment-end="h-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason-20231203094000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231203094000-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and fixed the few messed up pages</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231203094000-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231203094000-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231203094000-changes_cite_journal_→_cite_book_for_no_apparent_reason"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is altered to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for no discernible reason: all of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|volume=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|issue=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> are already present in the citation. No isbn is given in the metadata of the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12010-012-9888-0">target article</a>. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> <i>is</i> altered to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|series=</code>, refreshingly avoiding the "periodical ignored" error, but this change doesn't appear to make any sense.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>no change: the script should have some awareness of the citation parameters present in the citation it's altering, and make reasonable choices based on those.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1188094499" title="Special:MobileDiff/1188094499">Special:MobileDiff/1188094499</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv-20231203165400"><span id="Leaves_journal.3D_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv-20231203165400"></span>Leaves journal= parameter in cite arXiv<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv-20231203165400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isaidnoway-20231203165400-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> - got it figured out</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Isaidnoway" title="User:Isaidnoway"><b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:black"> <i>Isaidnoway</i> </b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isaidnoway" title="User talk:Isaidnoway"><b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#FF5F1F"><i>(talk)</i></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Isaidnoway-20231203165400-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isaidnoway-20231203165400-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isaidnoway-20231203165400-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204015300-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Changed cite journal to cite arXiv, but didn't remove the journal= parameter</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>fix it, journal= parameter not recognized by cite arXiv template</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rogue_planet&oldid=1188085132#cite_note-:21-25">unknown parameter</a></span></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Not sure how to handle that, in general. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204015300-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204015300-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204015300-Leaves_journal=_parameter_in_cite_arXiv"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=" data-mw-thread-id="h-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=-20231203170000"><span id="in_.7B.7Bcitation.7D.7D_templates.2C_bot_leaves_behind_.7Cjournal.3D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=-20231203170000"></span>in {{citation}} templates, bot leaves behind |journal=<span data-mw-comment-end="h-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=-20231203170000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231203170000-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal="></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231203170000-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal=" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231203170000-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal="></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231203170000-in_{{citation}}_templates,_bot_leaves_behind_|journal="></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot edited a <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a>}}</code> template to make a 'book' reference. Bot changed <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code>, added a new <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> that more-or-less duplicated existing <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|volume=</code>.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> uses the work parameters (<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|magazine=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|newspaper=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|periodical=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|website=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code>) to switch from its default 'book' format (<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> rendered in an italic font) to its 'work' format (<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> rendered in an upright font with quote marks). When making these types of edits to <span class="nowrap"><code>{{citation}}</code></span> templates (it desires to make a 'book' reference), the bot should remove work parameters (in this case <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code>).</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1188111124" title="Special:Diff/1188111124">Diff</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Replaces_–_with_�" data-mw-thread-id="h-Replaces_–_with_�-20231202234600"><span id="Replaces_.E2.80.93_with_.C2.80.EF.BF.BD"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Replaces_–_with_�-20231202234600"></span>Replaces – with �<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Replaces_–_with_�-20231202234600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231202234600-Replaces_–_with_�"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> - mb_strtoupper should have been used where strtoupper was used. Google books urls work with normal and long dashes. Normal ones are better, but the bot should not hose the goofy ones. Also, only appears on certain OS/PHP combinations.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231202234600-Replaces_–_with_�" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231202234600-Replaces_–_with_�"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231202234600-Replaces_–_with_�"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231203011900-Replaces_–_with_�"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>replaces – with �</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>nothing</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187999249" title="Special:Diff/1187999249">Special:Diff/1187999249</a>, which breaks URL</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> That URL was already broken before Citation bot got to it. Truncating it at the dash glyph might have fixed it. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231203011900-Replaces_–_with_�" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231203011900-Replaces_–_with_�"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231203011900-Replaces_–_with_�"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231204030000-Folly_Mox-20231203011900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a>:</span> Before Citation bot got to it, the existing URL redirected to a different Google Books page. Truncating the URL at the dash glyph would not have changed the redirect, and I don't expect Citation bot to try to do that. However, Citation bot made it worse, and this edit added the article for <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_invisible_characters" title="Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters">Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231204030000-Folly_Mox-20231203011900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231204030000-Folly_Mox-20231203011900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231204030000-Folly_Mox-20231203011900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231204032700-GoingBatty-20231204030000"></span>I agree that the edit was a disimprovement, definitely. Both the before and after versions of the gbooks url redirect to the same page for me, but I might be doing it wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231204032700-GoingBatty-20231204030000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231204032700-GoingBatty-20231204030000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231204032700-GoingBatty-20231204030000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231204042300-Folly_Mox-20231204032700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a>: I agree that the before and after versions (and truncating it at the dash glyph) redirect to the same page. <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231204042300-Folly_Mox-20231204032700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231204042300-Folly_Mox-20231204032700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231204042300-Folly_Mox-20231204032700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231204044500-GoingBatty-20231204042300"></span>It definitely looks like a bug. I'm not sure why I hopped in to defend Citation bot here, apart from the fact that I've been showing up here as a critic or reporter of bugs more days than not. I think what should have happened was for <i>me</i> to do nothing. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231204044500-GoingBatty-20231204042300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231204044500-GoingBatty-20231204042300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231204044500-GoingBatty-20231204042300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231204045400-Folly_Mox-20231204044500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a>: Reporting bugs is important, as is discussing them. I hope the maintainers find our discussion helpful. <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231204045400-Folly_Mox-20231204044500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231204045400-Folly_Mox-20231204044500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231204045400-Folly_Mox-20231204044500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proceedings_of_Science_handling" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proceedings_of_Science_handling-20231121005600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proceedings_of_Science_handling-20231121005600"></span>Proceedings of Science handling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proceedings_of_Science_handling-20231121005600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231121005600-Proceedings_of_Science_handling"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> quite a bit</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231121005600-Proceedings_of_Science_handling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231121005600-Proceedings_of_Science_handling"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231121005600-Proceedings_of_Science_handling"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extragalactic_cosmic_ray&diff=prev&oldid=1186115938">[44]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Square_Kilometre_Array&diff=1186116645&oldid=1175307261">[45]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""series"_parameter" data-mw-thread-id="h-"series"_parameter-20231114122600"><span id=".22series.22_parameter"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"series"_parameter-20231114122600"></span>"series" parameter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"series"_parameter-20231114122600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GrindtXX-20231114122600-"series"_parameter"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GrindtXX" title="User:GrindtXX">GrindtXX</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GrindtXX" title="User talk:GrindtXX">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GrindtXX-20231114122600-"series"_parameter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GrindtXX-20231114122600-"series"_parameter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GrindtXX-20231114122600-"series"_parameter"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231115001800-"series"_parameter"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>In the article <a href="/wiki/Surtees_Society" title="Surtees Society">Surtees Society</a>, the bot has repeatedly tried to remove the parameter "series=Surtees Society" from the bibliographical entry <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFThompson1939" class="citation cs2">Thompson AH (1939), <i>The Surtees Society, 1834–1934, including a catalogue of its publications with notes on their sources and contents, and a list of the members of the society from its beginning to the present day</i>, Surtees Society, vol. 150, Durham</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=The+Surtees+Society%2C+1834%E2%80%931934%2C+including+a+catalogue+of+its+publications+with+notes+on+their+sources+and+contents%2C+and+a+list+of+the+members+of+the+society+from+its+beginning+to+the+present+day&rft.place=Durham&rft.series=Surtees+Society&rft.date=1939&rft.aulast=Thompson&rft.aufirst=A.+Hamilton&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span><span class="cs1-maint citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a>}}</code>: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_location_missing_publisher" title="Category:CS1 maint: location missing publisher">link</a>)</span>. The series is an essential part of the entry: it provides the necessary context for the volume number, and shows that this was the 150th volume published by the society, whereas its absence suggests that the history is itself a work of 150 or more volumes.</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>See also <a href="/wiki/User:Citation_bot/use#..._the_bot_made_a_mistake?" title="User:Citation bot/use">User:Citation_bot/use#..._the_bot_made_a_mistake?</a>. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231115001800-"series"_parameter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231115001800-"series"_parameter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231115001800-"series"_parameter"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231115012900-Headbomb-20231115001800"></span>The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://catalog.lib.msu.edu/Record/folio.in00001327032">Michigan State University library catalog</a> lists this as having <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|series=Publications of the Surtees Society</code> rather than the shorter removed series name. No idea whether this would affect the bot's attempted removals. It also needs a publisher; following the same catalog entry, it looks like <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=Andrews & co. and B. Quaritch for the Surtees Society</code> would be accurate. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231115012900-Headbomb-20231115001800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231115012900-Headbomb-20231115001800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231115012900-Headbomb-20231115001800"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journal/conference/book_cleanup" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journal/conference/book_cleanup-20231112224300"><span id="Journal.2Fconference.2Fbook_cleanup"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journal/conference/book_cleanup-20231112224300"></span>Journal/conference/book cleanup<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journal/conference/book_cleanup-20231112224300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231112224300-Journal/conference/book_cleanup"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> mostly</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231112224300-Journal/conference/book_cleanup" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231112224300-Journal/conference/book_cleanup"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231112224300-Journal/conference/book_cleanup"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Factorization_of_polynomials&diff=prev&oldid=1184833731">[46]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="nonsense_journal_to_cite_book" data-mw-thread-id="h-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book-20231111164600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book-20231111164600"></span>nonsense journal to cite book<span data-mw-comment-end="h-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book-20231111164600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231111164600-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231111164600-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231111164600-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231111164600-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231111202800-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zenock&diff=next&oldid=1184626293">[47]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zenock&diff=next&oldid=1184626452">[48]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> <del>Failing to understand "OUP Academic" as "Oxford University Press" (already present, correctly in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code>) is one thing; adding an unsupported <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> parameter to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is something I thought Citation bot was better than.</del> <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231111202800-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231111202800-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231111202800-nonsense_journal_to_cite_book"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231112131900-Folly_Mox-20231111202800"></span>Sassy and unconstructive. Struck with apologies. I've been getting back into <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/7dQ4">ReferenceExpander repair</a>, hoping that maybe we'll get those first 2500 diffs checked and fixed by the end of the year. There are another ~3000 we've barely started on, and I feel scared and hurt when I see high volume citation scripts making errors that could be avoided by careful output checking. <a class="external text" href="https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name=Folly+Mox&search=oops&max=500&server=enwiki&ns=&enddate=20210101000000&startdate=">My own error rate</a> is probably higher. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231112131900-Folly_Mox-20231111202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231112131900-Folly_Mox-20231111202800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231112131900-Folly_Mox-20231111202800"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="page_generated_un_error" data-mw-thread-id="h-page_generated_un_error-20231107201700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-page_generated_un_error-20231107201700"></span>page generated un error<span data-mw-comment-end="h-page_generated_un_error-20231107201700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChaseKiwi-20231107201700-page_generated_un_error"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> with rejecting bibcode pages that match existing issue or volume</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:ChaseKiwi" title="User:ChaseKiwi">ChaseKiwi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChaseKiwi" title="User talk:ChaseKiwi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-ChaseKiwi-20231107201700-page_generated_un_error" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChaseKiwi-20231107201700-page_generated_un_error"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChaseKiwi-20231107201700-page_generated_un_error"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400-page_generated_un_error"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>multipage article referenced in cite journal by <pipe>issue = nn has additional <pipe>page =nn entry created</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>when multipage article in pdf format no <pipe>page =nn entry if already <pipe>issue=nn entry in cite journal name. In general page is a concept for written output and issue or number is a better default concept for web content, especially given numbers can be very largw. If manual programmer used best inline reference style with say rp or snf templates bot would cause chaos potentially with error messages</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ata_Caldera&diff=1135117702&oldid=1132179284">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ata_Caldera&diff=1135117702&oldid=1132179284</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1186%2Fs40645-015-0068-z">10.1186/s40645-015-0068-z</a> and <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1007%2Fs00445-020-01384-6">10.1007/s00445-020-01384-6</a> are both of the new problematic "article number" type. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|issue=</code> is wrong, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|page=</code> is less than ideal, but the best the CS1 and 2 have for us at the moment. The journals clearly state to not use issue for these in the "how to cite" areas. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400-page_generated_un_error" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400-page_generated_un_error"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400-page_generated_un_error"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400"></span>Umm, nope, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a>}}</code> supports <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|article-number=</code>: <dl><dd><code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">cite journal</span> <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last1</span><span class="o">=</span>Geshi <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first1</span><span class="o">=</span>N. <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last2</span><span class="o">=</span>Yamada <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first2</span><span class="o">=</span>I. <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last3</span><span class="o">=</span>Matsumoto <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first3</span><span class="o">=</span>K. <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last4</span><span class="o">=</span>Nishihara <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first4</span><span class="o">=</span>A. <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last5</span><span class="o">=</span>Miyagi <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first5</span><span class="o">=</span>I. <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">title</span><span class="o">=</span>Accumulation of rhyolite magma and triggers for a caldera-forming eruption of the Aira Caldera, Japan <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">journal</span><span class="o">=</span>Bulletin of Volcanology <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">volume</span><span class="o">=</span>82 <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">article-number</span><span class="o">=</span>44 <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">year</span><span class="o">=</span>2020 <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">doi</span><span class="o">=</span>10.1007/s00445-020-01384-6 <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">url</span><span class="o">=</span>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00445-020-01384-6<span class="p">}}</span></code> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFGeshiYamadaMatsumotoNishihara2020" class="citation journal cs1">Geshi N, Yamada I, Matsumoto K, Nishihara A, Miyagi I (2020). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00445-020-01384-6">"Accumulation of rhyolite magma and triggers for a caldera-forming eruption of the Aira Caldera, Japan"</a>. <i>Bulletin of Volcanology</i>. <b>82</b> 44. <a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1007%2Fs00445-020-01384-6">10.1007/s00445-020-01384-6</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Bulletin+of+Volcanology&rft.atitle=Accumulation+of+rhyolite+magma+and+triggers+for+a+caldera-forming+eruption+of+the+Aira+Caldera%2C+Japan&rft.volume=82&rft.artnum=44&rft.date=2020&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1007%2Fs00445-020-01384-6&rft.aulast=Geshi&rft.aufirst=N.&rft.au=Yamada%2C+I.&rft.au=Matsumoto%2C+K.&rft.au=Nishihara%2C+A.&rft.au=Miyagi%2C+I.&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Flink.springer.com%2Farticle%2F10.1007%2Fs00445-020-01384-6&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200-AManWithNoPlan-20231107205400"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231129221100-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200"></span>I will look into adding support for this parameter. Adding is easy, but dealing with all the edge cases (removing matching pages, etc), will require some work. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231129221100-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231129221100-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231129221100-Trappist_the_monk-20231107210200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL" data-mw-thread-id="h-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL-20231025190300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL-20231025190300"></span>Use Project MUSE book parameter instead of adding URL<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL-20231025190300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231025190300-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> be no longer adding MUSE urls, since they match DOIs</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:Chris_Capoccia" title="User:Chris Capoccia">Chris Capoccia</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_Capoccia" title="User talk:Chris Capoccia">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Chris_Capoccia-20231025190300-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231025190300-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_Capoccia-20231025190300-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20231026173500-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Citation bot expands book citation and adds Project MUSE URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://muse.jhu.edu/book/59700">https://muse.jhu.edu/book/59700</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Should use <code>|id={{Project MUSE|59700|type=book}}</code> instead of URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://muse.jhu.edu/book/59700">https://muse.jhu.edu/book/59700</a></dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AChris_Capoccia%2Fsandbox&diff=1181873516&oldid=1181873496">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AChris_Capoccia%2Fsandbox&diff=1181873516&oldid=1181873496</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>If CS1|2 has a supported ID, it should be used. If there is a template for the ID, it could also be used, although I am personally against URL templates because they create link rot - archive bots have to be programmed to support them, but there are so many thousands of different templates it is impractical to provide automated support. And in this case, the template is more characters than simply using the plain URL, which all standard tools can recognize and support. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GreenC-20231026173500-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20231026173500-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20231026173500-Use_Project_MUSE_book_parameter_instead_of_adding_URL"></span> <dl><dd></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion" data-mw-thread-id="h-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion-20231120173500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion-20231120173500"></span>cosmetic feature request suggestion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion-20231120173500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20231120173500-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion"></span>Maybe 5 years ago, IABot had a bug that added a "#" to the end of every archive URL, and sometimes the source URL. The bug is long fixed, and WaybackMedic has been removing the errant #'s, but it's a cosmetic edit that can only be done when making another edit to the page, so it's been a long process. There are a lot of them. An example: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183493290/1185983128" title="Special:Diff/1183493290/1185983128">Special:Diff/1183493290/1185983128</a> (second change). My code below if interested, no edge cases, simply removing any trailing # from the URLs. It won't break the archive URL. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Extended content</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <pre> # Fix trailing # in |url and |archive-url added by IABot 2.0 beta10 psplit(GX.articlework, GX.cite2, p): if isarg("archive-url", "value", p.field[i]) and isarg("url", "value", p.field[i]): archiveurl = getarg("archive-url", "clean", p.field[i]) sourceurl = getarg("url", "clean", p.field[i]) j = 0 if archiveurl ~ "[#]$": inc(j) sub("[#]$", "", archiveurl) p.field[i] = replacearg(p.field[i], "archive-url", archiveurl, "cosmetic1.1") if sourceurl ~ "[#]$": inc(j) sub("[#]$", "", sourceurl) p.field[i] = replacearg(p.field[i], "url", sourceurl, "cosmetic1.2") if j > 0: p.ok += inclog("cosmetic1.1", GX.esformat, Project.logiats, &"{archiveurl} ---- remove trailing #") </pre> <p>psplit() iterates over every cite template which are held in p.field[i] </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GreenC-20231120173500-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20231120173500-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20231120173500-cosmetic_feature_request_suggestion"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204172700-GreenC-20231120173500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204172700-GreenC-20231120173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204172700-GreenC-20231120173500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204172700-GreenC-20231120173500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Surtees_Society" data-mw-thread-id="h-Surtees_Society-20231205004100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Surtees_Society-20231205004100"></span>Surtees Society<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Surtees_Society-20231205004100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100-Surtees_Society"></span>Still needs fixed. Fix did not work. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100-Surtees_Society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100-Surtees_Society"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100-Surtees_Society"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205171200-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205171200-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205171200-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205171200-AManWithNoPlan-20231205004100"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10.22323_is_open_access" data-mw-thread-id="h-10.22323_is_open_access-20231205022500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-10.22323_is_open_access-20231205022500"></span>10.22323 is open access<span data-mw-comment-end="h-10.22323_is_open_access-20231205022500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231205022500-10.22323_is_open_access"></span>Covers both <a href="/wiki/Proceedings_of_Science" class="mw-redirect" title="Proceedings of Science">Proceedings of Science</a> and <a href="/wiki/Journal_of_Science_Communication" class="mw-redirect" title="Journal of Science Communication">Journal of Science Communication</a>, from SISSA. The other SISSA journals have different prefixes. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231205022500-10.22323_is_open_access" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231205022500-10.22323_is_open_access"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231205022500-10.22323_is_open_access"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205180700-Headbomb-20231205022500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205180700-Headbomb-20231205022500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205180700-Headbomb-20231205022500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205180700-Headbomb-20231205022500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IEEE_Xplore_part_trois" data-mw-thread-id="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois-20231205031400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois-20231205031400"></span>IEEE Xplore part trois<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois-20231205031400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231205031400-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231205031400-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231205031400-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231205031400-IEEE_Xplore_part_trois"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D_printing&diff=prev&oldid=1188388058">[49]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cache_timing_attack&diff=prev&oldid=1188393683">[50]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D_printing&diff=1188391235&oldid=1187970807">[51]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cache_timing_attack&diff=1188394128&oldid=1186051492">[52]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals" data-mw-thread-id="h-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals-20231205074700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals-20231205074700"></span>misidentifying not-journals as journals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals-20231205074700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231205074700-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231205074700-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231205074700-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231205074700-misidentifying_not-journals_as_journals"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>Not causing any template errors, so not as big of a deal as the bug that seems largely fixed by now (I went through a few dozen today where Citation bot altered <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, and all had successfully shuffled <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> → <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> → <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code>, hooray!). These two misidentifications don't – to my knowledge – even change the display of the article, but they are still incorrect. The first one I changed back to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. The second I fid the same: although properly it should be <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_dictionary" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite dictionary">cite dictionary</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, it rather obviously failed verification so I didn't bother.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1188400138" title="Special:MobileDiff/1188400138">Special:MobileDiff/1188400138</a> (the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://repository.rice.edu/communities/c97ecbf3-60d1-45be-8d68-643741559c65">"journal"</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070702205156/http://timea.rice.edu:80/NileCruise.html">actual source cited</a>))<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><a href="/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1188398188" title="Special:MobileDiff/1188398188">Special:MobileDiff/1188398188</a> (the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/enzyklopaedie-der-neuzeit/*-DUM_262977">"journal"</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://referenceworks-brillonline-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/entries/enzyklopaedie-der-neuzeit/*-DUM_262977">TWL link</a>))</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title-20231208051100"><span id=".22Document_unavailable.22.2F.22Preview_unavailable.22_is_not_a_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title-20231208051100"></span>"Document unavailable"/"Preview unavailable" is not a title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title-20231208051100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20231208051100-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Pppery-20231208051100-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20231208051100-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20231208051100-"Document_unavailable"/"Preview_unavailable"_is_not_a_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C2%A1Vamos%21+Let%27s+Go+Eat&diff=prev&oldid=1188870114">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C2%A1Vamos%21+Let%27s+Go+Eat&diff=prev&oldid=1188870114</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>It doesn't add placeholder titles</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Caps:_SIGPLAN" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caps:_SIGPLAN-20231208145200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caps:_SIGPLAN-20231208145200"></span>Caps: SIGPLAN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caps:_SIGPLAN-20231208145200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231208145200-Caps:_SIGPLAN"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231208145200-Caps:_SIGPLAN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231208145200-Caps:_SIGPLAN"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231208145200-Caps:_SIGPLAN"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ALGOL_68&diff=prev&oldid=1188921317">[53]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10.15347_is_free_to_read" data-mw-thread-id="h-10.15347_is_free_to_read-20231210153600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-10.15347_is_free_to_read-20231210153600"></span>10.15347 is free to read<span data-mw-comment-end="h-10.15347_is_free_to_read-20231210153600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231210153600-10.15347_is_free_to_read"></span>WikiJournals <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231210153600-10.15347_is_free_to_read" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231210153600-10.15347_is_free_to_read"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231210153600-10.15347_is_free_to_read"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210300-Headbomb-20231210153600"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210300-Headbomb-20231210153600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210300-Headbomb-20231210153600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210300-Headbomb-20231210153600"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Convert_&#x00026;_to_&" data-mw-thread-id="h-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&-20231205204500"><span id="Convert_.26.23x00026.3B_to_.26"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&-20231205204500"></span>Convert &#x00026; to &<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&-20231205204500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231205204500-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231205204500-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231205204500-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231205204500-Convert_&#x00026;_to_&"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gastroparesis&diff=prev&oldid=1188499367">[54]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-20231203111900"><span id="Adds_doi-access.3Dfree_for_broken_DOI"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-20231203111900"></span>Adds doi-access=free for broken DOI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-20231203111900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> somewhat. As best as a bot can.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-1"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1188055766" title="Special:Diff/1188055766">special:diff/1188055766</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1188109405" title="Special:Diff/1188109405">special:diff/1188109405</a></dd> <dt>Replication instructions</dt> <dd>Both the DOI and the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ijdr.in/article.asp?issn=0970-9290;year=2006;volume=17;issue=2;spage=70;epage=3;aulast=Hegde">PubMed full text link</a> are broken and redirect to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://lww.com/pages/default.aspx">https://lww.com/pages/default.aspx</a> .</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Unfortunately this journal is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://fatcat.wiki/release/wa33baj2incp7eq3lzfwcafn2m">not preserved</a> so there are no archived copies either. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203111900-Adds_doi-access=free_for_broken_DOI-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203113700-Nemo_bis-20231203111900"></span>For the cases where the DOI used to provide a gratis copy but no longer does, see <a href="#Add_Internet_Archive_Scholar_links">#Add Internet Archive Scholar links</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203113700-Nemo_bis-20231203111900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203113700-Nemo_bis-20231203111900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203113700-Nemo_bis-20231203111900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231203121200-Nemo_bis-20231203113700"></span>That the DOI is broken is a separate issue than it's free-to-read status. Once repaired, the DOI will be free. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231203121200-Nemo_bis-20231203113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231203121200-Nemo_bis-20231203113700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231203121200-Nemo_bis-20231203113700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203133100-Headbomb-20231203121200"></span>And how do you know that? <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203133100-Headbomb-20231203121200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203133100-Headbomb-20231203121200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203133100-Headbomb-20231203121200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231203135400-Nemo_bis-20231203133100"></span>It's originally from Medknow. All Medknow journals/DOIs are open access. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231203135400-Nemo_bis-20231203133100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231203135400-Nemo_bis-20231203133100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231203135400-Nemo_bis-20231203133100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203143300-Headbomb-20231203135400"></span>Or were. Now that they've been migrated, anything could happen. This journal has a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doaj.org/toc/1998-3603">nonfree license</a> so it could vanish unless someone archives it. If all Medknow DOIs are broken right now, I agree it's likely they'll be fixed within a few months by LWW, but in the meanwhile they're not a suitable link target so it makes no sense to add doi-access=true. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203143300-Headbomb-20231203135400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203143300-Headbomb-20231203135400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203143300-Headbomb-20231203135400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203144700-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span>Actually, not all Medknow DOIs are broken, for example <a href="/wiki/The_Journal_of_Indian_Prosthodontic_Society" class="mw-redirect" title="The Journal of Indian Prosthodontic Society">The Journal of Indian Prosthodontic Society</a> has functioning DOIs issued by Springer, like <a href="//doi.org/10.1007/s13191-013-0262-x" class="extiw" title="doi:10.1007/s13191-013-0262-x">doi:10.1007/s13191-013-0262-x</a>, for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://link.springer.com/journal/13191/volumes-and-issues">2010–2014</a>. (Didn't check the rest of the archive.) Have you sampled the DOIs under non-Springer prefix to see how many are working? <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231203144700-Nemo_bis-20231203143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231203144700-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231203144700-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231203151200-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span>"This journal has a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doaj.org/toc/1998-3603">nonfree license</a>" CC BY-NC-SA is a free-to-read license. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231203151200-Nemo_bis-20231203143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231203151200-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231203151200-Nemo_bis-20231203143300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span>"Actually, not all Medknow DOIs are broken" I compliment you on finding one that actually works. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900-Headbomb-20231203151200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900"></span>This just blew up because of this <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_DOI_inactive_as_of_December_2023">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_DOI_inactive_as_of_December_2023</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300-AManWithNoPlan-20231203220900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204191900-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300"></span>I personally patrol this page and report ALL bad DOIs. Many of them point to the wrong place since the journal has been purchased. Or they are data DOIs that are not part of crossref, so who knows. Or they are MedDontKnow. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204191900-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204191900-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204191900-AManWithNoPlan-20231204185300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231204223600-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span>I have no idea what a "free-to-read license" is. A <a href="/wiki/Free_license" title="Free license">free license</a> is a well-defined concept. A "free-to-read" source is an English-Wikipedia specific moving concept vaguely defined at <a href="/wiki/Help:Citation_Style_1#Access_indicators_for_url-holding_parameters" title="Help:Citation Style 1">Access indicators for url-holding parameters</a>. Mixing the two expressions serves no purpose. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231204223600-Headbomb-20231203151200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231204223600-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231204223600-Headbomb-20231203151200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600-Nemo_bis-20231204223600"></span>I think that the idea of open-source journals that you cannot find is <i>funny</i>, but I do think that keeping the DOIs in the articles is good, since you can sometimes google them and find a copy online. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600-Nemo_bis-20231204223600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600-Nemo_bis-20231204223600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600-Nemo_bis-20231204223600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231208092000-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600"></span>Keeping the DOI is useful, making it auto-link less so. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231208092000-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231208092000-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231208092000-AManWithNoPlan-20231205191600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231208142300-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span>If the bot thinks the DOI works, then it will not add the free. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231208142300-Nemo_bis-20231208092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231208142300-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231208142300-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231208150100-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span>That's an issue for the template to handle, not a reason to not flag things that should be flagged. And the template disables automatic linking via <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi-broken-date=</code>. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231208150100-Nemo_bis-20231208092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231208150100-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231208150100-Nemo_bis-20231208092000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231208150900-Headbomb-20231208150100"></span>Again, we can't know whether the DOI provides a free-to-read copy when we don't even know where the copy is supposed to be. (Yes I know we were discussing this <a href="/wiki/User_talk:OAbot#Removes_doi-access=free_when_the_dois_are_free" title="User talk:OAbot">elsewhere</a>, I'm in a hurry now.) But good the autolinking is disabled by the broken-doi parameter; the green lock should be as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231208150900-Headbomb-20231208150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231208150900-Headbomb-20231208150100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231208150900-Headbomb-20231208150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231208153300-Nemo_bis-20231208150900"></span>"we can't know whether the DOI provides a free-to-read copy"</dd> <dd>Yes we can. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231208153300-Nemo_bis-20231208150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231208153300-Nemo_bis-20231208150900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231208153300-Nemo_bis-20231208150900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-20231210220800-Headbomb-20231208153300"></span>How? <a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Nemo_bis-20231210220800-Headbomb-20231208153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-20231210220800-Headbomb-20231208153300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-20231210220800-Headbomb-20231208153300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231211000600-Nemo_bis-20231210220800"></span>Look at the registrant. Is the registrant a fully open access publisher? If yes, then yes. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231211000600-Nemo_bis-20231210220800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231211000600-Nemo_bis-20231210220800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231211000600-Nemo_bis-20231210220800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document" data-mw-thread-id="h-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-20231209191100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-20231209191100"></span>unsupported parameters when changing template type to cite document<span data-mw-comment-end="h-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-20231209191100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, or at least better. Dealing with non-url references is not obvious, even to us meatbags</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-1"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>in the normal course of removing proxy urls that duplicate stable identifiers, Citation bot removed the url from a source that was not published in a journal or book, and accordingly altered the citation template type to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_document" title="Template:Cite document">cite document</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. This caused unidentified parameter errors for <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|citeseerx=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|s2cid=</code>.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1189060531" title="Special:Diff/1189060531">Special:Diff/1189060531</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1189101272" title="Special:Diff/1189101272">This</a> was my fix: changing back to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, adding the url of the source, and an unrelated fix to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code>. I'm not sure this is really Citation bot's fault, or if maybe the parameter set supported by <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_document" title="Template:Cite document">cite document</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> ought be expanded to allow for more stable identifiers. Pinging <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> as the template maintainer, to see if they have input. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231209191100-unsupported_parameters_when_changing_template_type_to_cite_document-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209194700-Folly_Mox-20231209191100"></span>Yeah, converting <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a>}}</code> to <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_document" title="Template:Cite document">cite document</a>}}</code> is not going to work when <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|citeseerx=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|s2cid=</code> have assigned values. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|s2cid=</code> is excluded from <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite document}}</code></span> because links to readable copies of the source from that identifier are hit-or-miss at best (recall the plethora of complaints about the bot adding <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|s2cid=</code> that have been voiced on this talk page). <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|citeseerx=</code> is excluded because we have <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_citeseerx" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite citeseerx">cite citeseerx</a>}}</code>.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Because the original template had <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|citeseerx=10.1.1.42.3374</code>, an alternate fix might be: <dl><dd><code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">cite citeseerx</span> <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">last</span><span class="o">=</span>Wirz <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">first</span><span class="o">=</span>Marc <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">title</span><span class="o">=</span>Characterizing the Grzegorczyk hierarchy by safe recursion <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">date</span><span class="o">=</span>November 1999 <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">citeseerx</span><span class="o">=</span>10.1.1.42.3374<span class="p">}}</span></code> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFWirz1999" class="citation citeseerx cs1">Wirz M (November 1999). "Characterizing the Grzegorczyk hierarchy by safe recursion". <a href="/wiki/CiteSeerX_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="CiteSeerX (identifier)">CiteSeerX</a> <span class="id-lock-free" title="Freely accessible"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.42.3374">10.1.1.42.3374</a></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=preprint&rft.jtitle=CiteSeerX&rft.atitle=Characterizing+the+Grzegorczyk+hierarchy+by+safe+recursion&rft.date=1999-11&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fsummary%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.42.3374%23id-name%3DCiteSeerX&rft.aulast=Wirz&rft.aufirst=Marc&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_document" title="Template:Cite document">cite document</a>}}</code> is a 'last resort' sort of template when absolutely none of the other cs1|2 templates apply. The bot should avoid using <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite document}}</code></span> because, almost always, there is a better choice.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209194700-Folly_Mox-20231209191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209194700-Folly_Mox-20231209191100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209194700-Folly_Mox-20231209191100"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access" data-mw-thread-id="h-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access-20231211012000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access-20231211012000"></span>10.1074 and 10.1194 are open access<span data-mw-comment-end="h-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access-20231211012000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231211012000-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span>Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231211012000-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231211012000-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231211012000-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span> </p><p><br/> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231211132700-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231211132700-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231211132700-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231211132700-10.1074_and_10.1194_are_open_access"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="One_cache_to_rule_them_all." data-mw-thread-id="h-One_cache_to_rule_them_all.-20231210162600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One_cache_to_rule_them_all.-20231210162600"></span>One cache to rule them all.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One_cache_to_rule_them_all.-20231210162600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210162600-One_cache_to_rule_them_all."></span>Note to me for when I have time. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210162600-One_cache_to_rule_them_all." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210162600-One_cache_to_rule_them_all."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210162600-One_cache_to_rule_them_all."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Replace_inf_by_sub_tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags-20231208152700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags-20231208152700"></span>Replace inf by sub tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags-20231208152700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231208152700-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> - seems to be a one page only problem</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231208152700-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231208152700-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231208152700-Replace_inf_by_sub_tags"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A._W._Peet&diff=prev&oldid=1188925287">[55]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorrect_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_title-20231212185300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_title-20231212185300"></span>Incorrect title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_title-20231212185300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231212185300-Incorrect_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231212185300-Incorrect_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231212185300-Incorrect_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231212185300-Incorrect_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231212201100-Incorrect_title"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Creates a reference with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> parameter with incorrect characters, adding the article to <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_invisible_characters" title="Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters">Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters</a> (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1189477186" title="Special:Diff/1189477186">this edit</a> in Malayalam).</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Proper <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> (and maybe even <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|website=</code>) (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1189579305" title="Special:Diff/1189579305">this edit</a>).</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Here's <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1189490059" title="Special:Diff/1189490059">another edit</a> in Gujarati. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty#top" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GoingBatty" title="Special:Contributions/GoingBatty">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231212201100-Incorrect_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231212201100-Incorrect_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231212201100-Incorrect_title"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fails_to_remove_invisible_character" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-20231213000700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-20231213000700"></span>Fails to remove invisible character<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-20231213000700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_serving_senior_officers_of_the_Royal_Navy&diff=prev&oldid=1189619044">[56]</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>The character is &#8203; (zero width space). <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231213000700-Fails_to_remove_invisible_character-1"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm" data-mw-thread-id="h-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm-20231215012200"><span id="After_inspection.2C_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access.2C_not_just_10.5210.2Ffm"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm-20231215012200"></span>After inspection, all of 10.5210 are free access, not just 10.5210/fm<span data-mw-comment-end="h-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm-20231215012200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231215012200-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm"></span>Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231215012200-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231215012200-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231215012200-After_inspection,_all_of_10.5210_are_free_access,_not_just_10.5210/fm"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152300-Headbomb-20231215012200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152300-Headbomb-20231215012200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152300-Headbomb-20231215012200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152300-Headbomb-20231215012200"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries" data-mw-thread-id="h-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries-20231207164800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries-20231207164800"></span>Specifying name list style for newly-added name entries<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries-20231207164800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries"></span>There is a pull request that allows specifying name list style for newly-added name entries: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/4236">https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/4236</a> </p><p>It adds an option to already existing style of first1/last1, first2,last2, etc. </p><p>This pull request introduces the following functionality. If a page contains {{Use vanc name-list-style}} template, then the bot will use |vauthors= and |veditors= attributes rather than firstN/lastN and editor-firstN/editor-lastN when adding name entries for a citation template if the names were not specified in this template. This is similar to {{Use dmy dates}} template when the bot uses date format as specified on the page. To reproduce this behaviour, edit a page on Wikipedia, add {{Use vanc name-list-style}} template (or {{Use vanc name-list-style|date=December 2023}}), delete author names (firstN/lastN) and run the bot. It will fill the names as vauthors. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800-Specifying_name_list_style_for_newly-added_name_entries"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800"></span>Why does <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Use_vanc_name-list-style" title="Template:Use vanc name-list-style">Use vanc name-list-style</a>}}</code> exist? Was there any discussion that brought it into existence? cs1|2 doesn't know anything about that template but will understand <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:CS1_config" title="Template:CS1 config">CS1 config</a>|name-list-style=vanc}}</code>. Why create a new otherwise non-functional template?</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207164800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207183000-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span>I agree, we can use {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}}. Should we use {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}}? If yes, I will update the pull request. Anyway, {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} is not currently supported by the Citations Bot.<a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207183000-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207183000-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231207183000-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span>However the templates {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} and {{Use vanc name-list-style}} are different. {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} controls how the names are displayed during the render, whereas {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} does not affect the rendering but is a hint on whether the templates should use firs/last or vauthors attribute, in analogy to {{Use dmy dates}} which also does not control the output but hints how the dates should be specified in the source. This replies your question on why {{Use vanc name-list-style}} exist and how it is different from {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}}. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300-Trappist_the_monk-20231207182600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300"></span>You are mistaken. cs1|2 uses <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Use_dmy_dates" title="Template:Use dmy dates">use dmy dates</a>}}</code> and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Use_mdy_dates" title="Template:Use mdy dates">use mdy dates</a>}}</code> to control date formatting when cs1|2 templates are rendered. See <a href="/wiki/Template:Use_dmy_dates#Auto-formatting_citation_template_dates" title="Template:Use dmy dates">Template:Use dmy dates § Auto-formatting citation template dates</a> for example. I see no reason to keep <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Use_vanc_name-list-style" title="Template:Use vanc name-list-style">Use vanc name-list-style</a>}}</code>.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> thank you for letting me know! Why then there are separate templates for use dmy dates if this can be solved by "{{CS1 config}}"? That is the same question you asked me about the name list style.</dd> <dd>Anyway, my proposal is not about a particular template but about the functionality of the bot to adhere to the name list style specified for the page. My pull request can be adjusted to any template, and we need a consensus. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209154100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600"></span>The <span class="nowrap"><code>{{use xxx dates}}</code></span> templates came first (January 2009). Development of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Module:Citation&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Module:Citation (page does not exist)">Module:Citation</a> (the predecessor to <a href="/wiki/Module:Citation/CS1" title="Module:Citation/CS1">Module:Citation/CS1</a>) began August 2012. Auto date formatting was added to Module:Citation/CS1 April 2019. Support for <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:CS1_config" title="Template:CS1 config">CS1 config</a>}}</code> was added August 2023. <span class="nowrap"><code>{{CS1 config}}</code></span> applies only to cs1|2 templates but the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{use xxx dates}}</code></span> templates apply to both the article body and to article referencing (regardless of how referencing is implemented).</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209161600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700"></span>My initial proposal for discussion was on a pull request that allows specifying name list style for newly-added name entries: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/4236">https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/4236</a></dd> <dd>It adds an option of specifying vauthors to already existing style of first1/last1, first2,last2, etc.</dd> <dd>Is my understanding correct that you support the feature based on {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} but not on {{Use vanc name-list-style}} so that this template should never be used at all.</dd> <dd>If you support the feature based on {{CS1 config|name-list-style=vanc}}, I will modify the pull request. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600-Trappist_the_monk-20231209163700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600"></span>I am indifferent about whether or not Citation bot applies Vancouver style to cs1|2 templates. From the number of participants in this discussion it would seem that the response to the proposal is a resounding 'meh'. If the bot is going to apply Vancouver style based on some sort of flag template, that template should be <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:CS1_config" title="Template:CS1 config">CS1 config</a>}}</code> because that template has functionality beyond being a simple flag template.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300-Maxim_Masiutin-20231211211600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231213220000-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span>I updated the pull request and I hope that the maintainers will accept it. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231213220000-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231213220000-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231213220000-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231215044100-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span>Thank you for your guidance! I updated the pull request to support {{cs1 config|name-list-style=vanc}} and the mainteners of the citations bot accepted this pull request, making also necessary adjustments. So if you now take the citations bot from Github, it will support this feature. Thank you again for your feedback and guidance. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231215044100-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231215044100-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231215044100-Trappist_the_monk-20231212001300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Expand_non-templated_refs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Expand_non-templated_refs-20230724171600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Expand_non-templated_refs-20230724171600"></span>Expand non-templated refs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Expand_non-templated_refs-20230724171600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josve05a-20230724171600-Expand_non-templated_refs"></span>Would it be possible to expand from non-templated reference <code><ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5553785/ Bar]</ref></code>, as long as <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> would be exactly the same (<code>Bar</code>) which already exists for the URL specified as if the bot would try to expand the bare URL (as long as there is no other content in the ref)? <a href="/wiki/User:Josve05a" title="User:Josve05a">Jonatan Svensson Glad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josve05a" title="User talk:Josve05a">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Josve05a-20230724171600-Expand_non-templated_refs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josve05a-20230724171600-Expand_non-templated_refs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josve05a-20230724171600-Expand_non-templated_refs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josve05a-20230724171900-Josve05a-20230724171600"></span>Example <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arachnid&diff=prev&oldid=1166930511">here</a>, I had to remove the brackets and the already provided title prior to running the bot. The outcome provided the exact same title as was already present prior to me doing the removal, causing a lot of manual labor in order to get the bot to attempt to expand the citation. <a href="/wiki/User:Josve05a" title="User:Josve05a">Jonatan Svensson Glad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josve05a" title="User talk:Josve05a">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Josve05a-20230724171900-Josve05a-20230724171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 24 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josve05a-20230724171900-Josve05a-20230724171600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josve05a-20230724171900-Josve05a-20230724171600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800-Josve05a-20230724171900"></span>How close should the titles have to be? Also, it seems that from my experience, the title is often some mix of the title and journal and authors. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800-Josve05a-20230724171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800-Josve05a-20230724171900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800-Josve05a-20230724171900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Josve05a-20230814210100-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800"></span>Well, a first start could be exact "only-title" match inside square brackets (with only a preceding period/dot inside or outside the brackets being the difference). To later build upon with more possibilities... <a href="/wiki/User:Josve05a" title="User:Josve05a">Jonatan Svensson Glad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Josve05a" title="User talk:Josve05a">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Josve05a-20230814210100-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Josve05a-20230814210100-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Josve05a-20230814210100-AManWithNoPlan-20230814200800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="arxiv_is_not_a_journal" data-mw-thread-id="h-arxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231209141900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-arxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231209141900"></span>arxiv is not a journal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-arxiv_is_not_a_journal-20231209141900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209141900-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> mostly</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209141900-arxiv_is_not_a_journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209141900-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231209141900-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209151000-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>Bot changed an admittedly malformed <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_journal" title="Template:Cite journal">cite journal</a>}}</code> template. In that template: <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=arXiv</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi=10.48550/arXiv.2206.12231</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi-access=free</code>. The only action that the bot took was to convert <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi=10.48550/arXiv.2206.12231</code> to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|arxiv=2206.12231</code>.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Bot should recognize that <code>arXiv</code> is not a journal so <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite journal}}</code></span> is the wrong template; should be changed to <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_arxiv" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite arxiv">cite arxiv</a>}}</code>. When removing <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi=</code>, the bot should always remove <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|doi-access=</code>. Remember that <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite arxiv}}</code></span> supports a limited subset of the whole cs1|2 parameter set so other parameters in a <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite journal}}</code></span> → <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite arxiv}}</code></span> conversion may need to be removed. The limited parameter set is defined in <a href="/wiki/Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist" title="Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist">Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist</a> lines <a href="/wiki/Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist#L-340" title="Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist">340–346</a>.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1188995958" title="Special:Diff/1188995958">Diff</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> If you run the bot again, then it does clean up. I will look at having it not take two times. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209151000-arxiv_is_not_a_journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209151000-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209151000-arxiv_is_not_a_journal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_one_author" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on-20231209153800"><span id="Bug.3F_The_bot_should_not_replace_first.2Flast_to_first1.2Flast1_when_there_is_just_one_author"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on-20231209153800"></span>Bug? The bot should not replace first/last to first1/last1 when there is just one author<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on-20231209153800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on"></span>According to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Citation_Style&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Help:Citation Style (page does not exist)">Help:Citation Style</a>, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">An author may be cited using separate parameters for the author's surname and given name by using</q> </p><p>However, the bot replaces |last= and |first= to |last1= and |first1= even when there is just one author, which is contrary to the description of the CS1 Citation Style. </p><p>The bot should probably already not replace them back, but it should definitely avoid changing that in the future. Also, when there were no authors specified, and there is a single author, the bot should use |last= and |first= </p><p>If you agree with that, I can try to submit a pull request. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User:Maxim Masiutin">Maxim Masiutin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin" title="User talk:Maxim Masiutin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800-Bug?_The_bot_should_not_replace_first/last_to_first1/last1_when_there_is_just_on"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800"></span>Could you give en example of where the bot changed last to last1, when there is not second author. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400-Maxim_Masiutin-20231209153800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152600-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Wontfix" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Wontfix">wontfix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, since the complexity of going back and changing them will just make the bot's author handling that much more insane, and it is already complicated enough. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152600-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152600-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215152600-AManWithNoPlan-20231209163400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Use_of_template_"ODNB"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Use_of_template_"ODNB"-20231119131000"><span id="Use_of_template_.22ODNB.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Use_of_template_"ODNB"-20231119131000"></span>Use of template "ODNB"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Use_of_template_"ODNB"-20231119131000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johannes_Schade-20231119131000-Use_of_template_"ODNB""></span>Citation bot changed one of the source descriptions in the article <a href="/wiki/James_Hamilton_(English_Army_officer)" title="James Hamilton (English Army officer)">James Hamilton (English Army officer)</a> from: </p> <blockquote><p>{{Cite web|last=Smith |first=Geoffrey |date=May 2006 |title=Armorer, Sir Nicholas (c.1620–1686) |website=[[Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]] |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/94686 |url=http://www.oxforddnb.com/index/94686/ |access-date=13 May 2023 |url-access=subscription}}</p></blockquote> <p>to: </p> <blockquote><p>{{Cite ODNB|last=Smith |first=Geoffrey |date=May 2006 |title=Armorer, Sir Nicholas (c.1620–1686) |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/94686 |url=http://www.oxforddnb.com/index/94686/ |access-date=13 May 2023 |url-access=subscription}}</p></blockquote> <p>I wondered why. I read up on <a href="/wiki/Template:ODNB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:ODNB">Template:ODNB</a>. It says it is a wrapper around <a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_encyclopedia" title="Template:Cite encyclopedia">Template:Cite encyclopedia</a>. Well, perhaps I should not have used "Cite web" but "Cite encyclopedia" and Citation bot should probably have corrected me to: </p> <blockquote><p>{{Cite encyclopedia|last=Smith |first=Geoffrey |date=May 2006 |title=Armorer, Sir Nicholas (c.1620–1686) |encyclopedia=[[Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]] |edition=online |publisher=[[Oxford University Press]] |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/94686 |url=http://www.oxforddnb.com/index/94686/ |access-date=13 May 2023 |url-access=subscription}}</p></blockquote> <p>However, I do not understand why we should be forced to use a wrapper around Cite encyclopedia rather than the original. I thought the use of the ODBC template was voluntary and not obligatory. With thanks and best regards <a href="/wiki/User:Johannes_Schade" title="User:Johannes Schade">Johannes Schade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johannes_Schade" title="User talk:Johannes Schade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Johannes_Schade-20231119131000-Use_of_template_"ODNB"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johannes_Schade-20231119131000-Use_of_template_"ODNB""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johannes_Schade-20231119131000-Use_of_template_"ODNB""></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="pages_totales" data-mw-thread-id="h-pages_totales-20231218153100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-pages_totales-20231218153100"></span>pages totales<span data-mw-comment-end="h-pages_totales-20231218153100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231218153100-pages_totales"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231218153100-pages_totales" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231218153100-pages_totales"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231218153100-pages_totales"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>converts <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|pages totales=</code> to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|pages=</code></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>remove the parameter <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|pages totales=</code>, as the total number of pages is not supported in the English Wikipedia citation templates.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1190228307" title="Special:Diff/1190228307">Special:Diff/1190228307</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots" data-mw-thread-id="h-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots-20231218201800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots-20231218201800"></span>bot drops author first name in favor of a pair of dots<span data-mw-comment-end="h-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots-20231218201800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231218201800-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> with more unicode happy code</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231218201800-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231218201800-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231218201800-bot_drops_author_first_name_in_favor_of_a_pair_of_dots"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>According to Google Books, the author is <span title="Russian-language text"><span lang="ru">Гродзенский С.Я.</span></span>. The bot produces <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">| last1 = Гродзенский| first1 = ..</code>.</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1190476539" title="Special:Diff/1190476539">Diff</a>; same article several months ago: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1157335680" title="Special:Diff/1157335680">Diff</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo" data-mw-thread-id="h-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo-20231217184100"><span id="treat_.23invoke:cite_foo_.7C_as_cite_foo"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo-20231217184100"></span>treat #invoke:cite foo | as cite foo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo-20231217184100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231217184100-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231217184100-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231217184100-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231217184100-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231217185400-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_in_science&diff=prev&oldid=1190407516">[57]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Note, it shouldn't remove the extra pipe. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231217185400-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231217185400-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231217185400-treat_#invoke:cite_foo_|_as_cite_foo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900-Headbomb-20231217185400"></span>I have had this on my to-do list for a while. Those huge pages are rare, but seem to be the ones with the insane number of citations that need fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900-Headbomb-20231217185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900-Headbomb-20231217185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900-Headbomb-20231217185400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900"></span>For those wondering why, {{#invoke:cite web || ...}} does the same as {{cite web | ...}}. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300-AManWithNoPlan-20231218133900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134500-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300"></span>My tasks : add tests, change wikiname() function, and make sure extra pipe does not get removed, since in normal templates that is an error. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134500-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134500-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134500-AManWithNoPlan-20231218134300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="When_databases_collide" data-mw-thread-id="h-When_databases_collide-20231030064600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-When_databases_collide-20231030064600"></span>When databases collide<span data-mw-comment-end="h-When_databases_collide-20231030064600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interval_graph&diff=1182581868&oldid=1173935683"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231030064600-When_databases_collide"></span>This edit</a> changed a proceedings title from the version given by <a href="/wiki/DBLP" title="DBLP">DBLP</a> ("Proceedings of the 22nd Annual European Symposium on Algorithms (ESA 2014), Wroclaw, Poland, September 8–10, 2014") to a much more concise version from another source ("Algorithms - ESA 2014"), maybe the publisher or maybe MathSciNet (both list it that way). Note that the actual publisher page for the full proceedings lists it has having the more detailed title "Algorithms - ESA 2014: 22th Annual European Symposium, Wrocław, Poland, September 8-10, 2014. Proceedings". The DBLP title is more or less what you get if you put that into a more intelligible order. Curiously, the bot left the DBLP title in place for the other citation it touched, from WG '92. I think that the DBLP version is better and that this level of change (not the correction of any actual error in a citation) constitutes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEVAR">WP:CITEVAR</a>. Please stop. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231030064600-When_databases_collide" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 30 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231030064600-When_databases_collide"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231030064600-When_databases_collide"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension" data-mw-thread-id="h-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension-20231210170300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension-20231210170300"></span>Convesion to mathml conflices with the math:Extension<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension-20231210170300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Salix_alba-20231210170300-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> mostly sort of</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Salix_alba" title="User:Salix alba">Salix alba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Salix_alba" title="User talk:Salix alba">talk</a>): <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Salix_alba-20231210170300-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Salix_alba-20231210170300-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Salix_alba-20231210170300-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>The bot replaced the wikitext:</dd> <dd>''b'' → ''s'' ℓ<sup>+</sup> ℓ<sup>−</sup></dd></dl> <p>with the MathML text </p> <dl><dd><math><mrow>b<mo stretchy="false">→s<msup><mrow>ℓ</mrow><mrow>+</mrow></msup><msup><mrow>ℓ</mrow><mrow>−</mrow></msup></mrow></math></dd></dl> <p>This conflicts with the <a href="/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula" title="Help:Displaying a formula">maths extension</a> and inturn causes a maths syntax error. </p> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>No MathML text should be generated</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LHCb_experiment&diff=prev&oldid=1188666266">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LHCb_experiment&diff=prev&oldid=1188666266</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> The Title is CrossRef is "Measurement of lepton universality parameters in \n<mml:math xmlns:mml=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1998\/Math\/MathML\" display=\"inline\"><mml:msup><mml:mi>B<\/mml:mi><mml:mo>+<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><mml:mo stretchy=\"false\">\u2192<\/mml:mo><mml:msup><mml:mi>K<\/mml:mi><mml:mo>+<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><mml:msup><mml:mo>\u2113<\/mml:mo><mml:mo>+<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><mml:msup><mml:mo>\u2113<\/mml:mo><mml:mo>\u2212<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><\/mml:math>\n and \n<mml:math xmlns:mml=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1998\/Math\/MathML\" display=\"inline\"><mml:msup><mml:mi>B<\/mml:mi><mml:mn>0<\/mml:mn><\/mml:msup><mml:mo stretchy=\"false\">\u2192<\/mml:mo><mml:msup><mml:mi>K<\/mml:mi><mml:mrow><mml:mo>*<\/mml:mo><mml:mn>0<\/mml:mn><\/mml:mrow><\/mml:msup><mml:msup><mml:mo>\u2113<\/mml:mo><mml:mo>+<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><mml:msup><mml:mo>\u2113<\/mml:mo><mml:mo>\u2212<\/mml:mo><\/mml:msup><\/mml:math>\n decays" which makes it difficult to clean up. I tags that are not used are the annoying ones. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/36648e552b4bf9b4f1e7ff1c88383701e79c95e0">https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/36648e552b4bf9b4f1e7ff1c88383701e79c95e0</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200-Convesion_to_mathml_conflices_with_the_math:Extension"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231210214600-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200"></span>Why not just like, not alter an existing title if the one pulled from Crossref is substantially different? or contains difficult markup? Existing, human-generated titles are more likely to be accurate: database titles often have non-compliant casing, poor OCR, and incompatible markup. No fault against adding a title where none exists, but changing them to match Crossref is problematic. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231210214600-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231210214600-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231210214600-AManWithNoPlan-20231210210200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300-Folly_Mox-20231210214600"></span>The problem that a DOI was added to an arXiv, and with the update to the published version then the published title is used instead. Clearly a rare event, with the new title being a problem, but I will look into actually parsing the math. These few math tags that are ignore pre-date my work on the bot, and were flags as someday wish list. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300-Folly_Mox-20231210214600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300-Folly_Mox-20231210214600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300-Folly_Mox-20231210214600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Salix_alba-20231212121500-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300"></span>Its going to be tricky parsing the mathml, and converting it back to Wikipedia format LaTeX. What might work is to simply enclose the foreign <code class="nowrap" style=""><math></code> tags inside a <code class="nowrap" style=""><nowki></code>. There is another citation in the same revision (actually the same paper) where this has been done. Probably anything with mathematics in it is going to need human attention. Some sort of tracking for these occurrences could be useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Salix_alba" title="User:Salix alba">Salix alba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Salix_alba" title="User talk:Salix alba">talk</a>): <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Salix_alba-20231212121500-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Salix_alba-20231212121500-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Salix_alba-20231212121500-AManWithNoPlan-20231210215300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231212185200-Salix_alba-20231212121500"></span>"Going to need human attention" implies "bot should not think it knows how to change the title". It should give up and not produce garbage.</dd> <dd>In this instance, arXiv actually has a usable title: the command line</dd> <dd><code>curl -LH "Accept: application/x-bibtex" <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2212.09152">https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2212.09152</a></code></dd> <dd>produces</dd> <dd><code>title = {Test of lepton universality in $b \rightarrow s \ell^+ \ell^-$ decays}</code></dd> <dd>which requires only changing the dollar signs to math tags to render correctly. The other thing with the mathml is unfit for human consumption and not a useful start to producing a readable title. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231212185200-Salix_alba-20231212121500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231212185200-Salix_alba-20231212121500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231212185200-Salix_alba-20231212121500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500-David_Eppstein-20231212185200"></span>doi.org titles are generally much worse quality than crossref api. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500-David_Eppstein-20231212185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500-David_Eppstein-20231212185200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500-David_Eppstein-20231212185200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215153700-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500"></span>Set them to be wrapped in nowiki tags. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215153700-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215153700-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231215153700-AManWithNoPlan-20231212210500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="invoke_other_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-invoke_other_template-20231221021500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-invoke_other_template-20231221021500"></span>invoke other template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-invoke_other_template-20231221021500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231221021500-invoke_other_template"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231221021500-invoke_other_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231221021500-invoke_other_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231221021500-invoke_other_template"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221153100-invoke_other_template"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ang_Probinsyano_(season_7)&curid=61172246&diff=1191012380&oldid=1183971211">[58]</a></dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>don't add pipes for other invocations</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Bot rebooted to make sure no running jobs continue to use old code. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221153100-invoke_other_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221153100-invoke_other_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221153100-invoke_other_template"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Breaks_charts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Breaks_charts-20231221072900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Breaks_charts-20231221072900"></span>Breaks charts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Breaks_charts-20231221072900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ita140188-20231221072900-Breaks_charts"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ita140188" title="User:Ita140188">Ita140188</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ita140188" title="User talk:Ita140188">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ita140188-20231221072900-Breaks_charts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ita140188-20231221072900-Breaks_charts"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ita140188-20231221072900-Breaks_charts"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What happens</dt> <dd>The bot breaks working charts by inserting extraneous markup</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solar_power_in_Japan&diff=1191010522&oldid=1190903421">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solar_power_in_Japan&diff=1191010522&oldid=1190903421</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet-20231221232300"><span id="Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_.2F_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet-20231221232300"></span>Fails to fix a line break / invisible character in cite tweet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet-20231221232300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231221232300-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231221232300-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231221232300-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231221232300-Fails_to_fix_a_line_break_/_invisible_character_in_cite_tweet"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meit%C5%8D_%22Isekai_no_Yu%22_Kaitaku-ki&diff=prev&oldid=1191171687">[59]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Leicestershire_(UK_Parliament_constituency)&diff=prev&oldid=1191172943">[60]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fails_to_fix_date" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fails_to_fix_date-20231221232500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fails_to_fix_date-20231221232500"></span>Fails to fix date<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fails_to_fix_date-20231221232500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231221232500-Fails_to_fix_date"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231221232500-Fails_to_fix_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231221232500-Fails_to_fix_date"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231221232500-Fails_to_fix_date"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222005200-Fails_to_fix_date"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:%22Strelok%22_Set_of_Combat_Equipment&diff=prev&oldid=1191171849">[61]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Walker_Scobell&diff=prev&oldid=1191172342">[62]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Date/year/access-date/archive-date/etc. </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation book cs1"><i>X</i>. 8 December 2022.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=X&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Check date values in: <code class="cs1-code">|date=</code> (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#bad_date" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span> </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation book cs1"><i>X</i>. Monday, November 2, 1981.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=X&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Check date values in: <code class="cs1-code">|date=</code> (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#bad_date" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span> </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation book cs1"><i>X</i>. 08 Dec 2023.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=X&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Check date values in: <code class="cs1-code">|date=</code> (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#bad_date" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span> </p><p><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation book cs1"><i>X</i>. 08 December 2023.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=X&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ACitation+bot%2FArchive+37" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Check date values in: <code class="cs1-code">|date=</code> (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#bad_date" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222005200-Fails_to_fix_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222005200-Fails_to_fix_date"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222005200-Fails_to_fix_date"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages-20231030194900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages-20231030194900"></span>please link to the new Google books web pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages-20231030194900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metric_tensor_(general_relativity)&diff=prev&oldid=1182376785"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.47.144.129-20231030194900-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages"></span>This edit</a> changed links that consistently lead to the new Google books web pages to ones that do not. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.47.144.129" title="Special:Contributions/50.47.144.129">50.47.144.129</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:50.47.144.129&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:50.47.144.129 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-50.47.144.129-20231030194900-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 30 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.47.144.129-20231030194900-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-50.47.144.129-20231030194900-please_link_to_the_new_Google_books_web_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154100-50.47.144.129-20231030194900"></span>Good question. Right now wikipedia prefers <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=fp9wrkMYHvMC">https://books.google.com/books?id=fp9wrkMYHvMC</a> but should this be swapped to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/fp9wrkMYHvMC">https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/fp9wrkMYHvMC</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154100-50.47.144.129-20231030194900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154100-50.47.144.129-20231030194900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231107154100-50.47.144.129-20231030194900"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names" data-mw-thread-id="h-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-20231221035600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-20231221035600"></span>Replace hyphen-like with hyphen in author names<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-20231221035600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Topoisomerase_inhibitor&diff=prev&oldid=1191025819">[63]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> The culprit is U+2010 : HYPHEN, which should be replaced with the standard U+002D : HYPHEN-MINUS. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231221035600-Replace_hyphen-like_with_hyphen_in_author_names-1"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Repair_url=www..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Repair_url=www...-20231216155700"><span id="Repair_url.3Dwww..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Repair_url=www...-20231216155700"></span>Repair url=www...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Repair_url=www...-20231216155700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www..."></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 16 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www..."></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www...-1"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elderly_care&diff=prev&oldid=1190211222">[64]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p><p>i.e. change url=www. </p><p>to </p><p>url=<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www">https://www</a>. </p><p>(same for chapter-url, archive-url, etc...) </p><p> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www...-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 16 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www...-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231216155700-Repair_url=www...-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300-Headbomb-20231216155700"></span>How common is this? <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300-Headbomb-20231216155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300-Headbomb-20231216155700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300-Headbomb-20231216155700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231220020300-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300"></span>Possibly <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_URL" title="Category:CS1 errors: URL">at lot</a>, I haven't really checked, but a quick search shows this <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=insource%3A%2Furl+*%3D+*www%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns118=1">[65]</a>. There's lot of other templates polluting this search, but from the 100 first results, it's at least an issue in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile">[66]</a>, so around 1% of 1500? 15 articles ish?</dd> <dd>It's more an issue of those getting normally fixed fairly easily by AWB runs or the like, which could be also done by this bot. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231220020300-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231220020300-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231220020300-AManWithNoPlan-20231220015300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221230800-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span>Note to self, look at ALL_URL_TYPES array <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221230800-Headbomb-20231220020300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221230800-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231221230800-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231222231100-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>: I have an AWB bot that goes through <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_URL" title="Category:CS1 errors: URL">Category:CS1 errors: URL</a> that I run a few times a month to fix issues like this, including the example you provided in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1191022094" title="Special:Diff/1191022094">this edit</a>. The category only has 5,176 articles out of 6,918,138 articles, and most of those require manual intervention, so the commonality is well below 1%. Your search captures false positives, such as <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> in infoboxes (which should probably use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:URL" title="Template:URL">URL</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>) and URLs that contain "url=" in the middle. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%2Furl+%2A%3D+%2Awww%2F+incategory%3A%22CS1+errors%3A+URL%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1">This modified search</a> finds no articles to be fixed. However, if you find patterns in the category that bots can fix, please let me know. <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231222231100-Headbomb-20231220020300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231222231100-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231222231100-Headbomb-20231220020300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20231222232200-GoingBatty-20231222231100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>: ...and I just manually used AWB to fix the drafts found in the category. <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-GoingBatty-20231222232200-GoingBatty-20231222231100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20231222232200-GoingBatty-20231222231100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20231222232200-GoingBatty-20231222231100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233500-GoingBatty-20231222232200"></span>Will only work if url starts with www. since I recognize that it might not actually be a url. Now off to play with grandkiddo. Happy advent to all. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233500-GoingBatty-20231222232200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233500-GoingBatty-20231222232200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233500-GoingBatty-20231222232200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oversimplification_of_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oversimplification_of_title-20231123211200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oversimplification_of_title-20231123211200"></span>Oversimplification of title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oversimplification_of_title-20231123211200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231123211200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span>Status</dt> <dd>new bug</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd>—<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231123211200-Oversimplification_of_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231123211200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231123211200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231123222100-Oversimplification_of_title"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>I don't care what the publisher says the main title of a reference should be; the bot should not take more-detailed versions of the correct title and oversimplify them by only keeping the main title as it did in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1186533390" title="Special:Diff/1186533390">Special:Diff/1186533390</a>. The same bug (in the form of removing subtitles from titles) has been reported here and archived months ago but the same misbehavior persists. If you don't stop it I am going to start routinely excluding this bot from articles I edit.</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Not that</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd>Does Citation bot have consensus to be making changes to existing, human-added titles based solely on the metadata it scrapes? This doesn't seem like a good outcome most of the time. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231123222100-Oversimplification_of_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231123222100-Oversimplification_of_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231123222100-Oversimplification_of_title"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231124004200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span> There the bot is right though. The title <i>is</i> "Graph Drawing". As Springer themselves say, the suggested way to cite this is "Eppstein, D. (2009). Isometric Diamond Subgraphs. In: Tollis, I.G., Patrignani, M. (eds) Graph Drawing. GD 2008. Lecture Notes in Computer Science, vol 5417. Springer, Berlin, Heidelberg. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-00219-9_37">https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-00219-9_37</a>" </p><p>"16th International Symposium...." is the expanded subtitle of GD 2008. One could replace it with "Graph Drawing: 16th International Symposium..." instead of ""Graph Drawing. GD 2008." </p><p>But the word "Proceedings" is nowhere in there, and shouldn't be. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231124004200-Oversimplification_of_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231124004200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231124004200-Oversimplification_of_title"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231124014300-Headbomb-20231124004200"></span>The title is <b>not</b> "Graph Drawing". The title suggested at the top of the publisher web page for the individual doi is "International Symposium on Graph Drawing, GD 2008: Graph Drawing". The title given on the landing page for the book doi is "Graph Drawing 16th International Symposium, GD 2008, Heraklion, Crete, Greece, September 21-24, 2008, Revised Papers". The title printed on the cover of the book <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=8WGBnAMjaXsC">[67]</a> is similar but with line breaks replacing more of the punctuation. The title given in <a href="/wiki/DBLP" title="DBLP">DBLP</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://dblp.org/db/conf/gd/gd2008.html">[68]</a> is almost the same, "Graph Drawing, 16th International Symposium, GD 2008, Heraklion, Crete, Greece, September 21-24, 2008. Revised Papers". The title given in <a href="/wiki/ZbMATH" class="mw-redirect" title="ZbMATH">zbMATH</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://zbmath.org/1156.68007">[69]</a> is again almost the same, "Graph drawing. 16th international symposium, GD 2008, Heraklion, Crete, Greece, September 21–24, 2008. Revised papers". The title given in <a href="/wiki/MathSciNet" title="MathSciNet">MathSciNet</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://mathscinet.ams.org/mathscinet/article?mr=2540554">[70]</a> is "Graph drawing. Revised papers from the 16th International Symposium (GD 2008) held in Heraklion, September 2008".</dd> <dd>All of these are vastly preferable to "Graph Drawing" because they actually identify the precise volume that the work in question comes from, which "Graph Drawing" alone does not. Their preferability should be obvious to anyone who puts actual thought into what citations are for rather than thinking of them as mechanical reproductions of flawed databases. It is exactly that unthinking "we must do what our database of publisher titles says even when it is stupid and uninformative" attitude that I am objecting to here and will continue to strongly object to on individual articles where this attitude translates into disimprovements.</dd> <dd>As well, the bot dropped the wikilink on the title into the bit bucket, when it would have been preferable to keep it or move it to a title-link parameter. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231124014300-Headbomb-20231124004200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231124014300-Headbomb-20231124004200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231124014300-Headbomb-20231124004200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231124225400-David_Eppstein-20231124014300"></span>I keep seeing more of these on my watchlist, and have begun completely blocking citation bot from the affected articles. It won't take much more of this continued damage for me to switch to completely blocking citation bot from all articles that I edit. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231124225400-David_Eppstein-20231124014300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231124225400-David_Eppstein-20231124014300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231124225400-David_Eppstein-20231124014300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231124232600-David_Eppstein-20231124225400"></span>I'm not there yet, but I did recently turn off the "hide bot edits" watchlist toggle for the first time in a decade or so because of this script. I don't think Citation bot is a bad tool – despite my accumulating complaints on this talk page – but it's not better than a human: just faster.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>I do note that the BRFA that supported Citation bot adding missing parameters (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/DOI_bot_2" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DOI bot 2">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DOI bot 2</a>, 2008) specifically says <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">If the CrossRef database contradicts the information in the article, the bot will stick with the data already in Wikipedia, and assume the error to be with CrossRef.</q> This seems wise, and I'm wondering when the behaviour was changed, and where the consensus for the change arose. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231124232600-David_Eppstein-20231124225400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231124232600-David_Eppstein-20231124225400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231124232600-David_Eppstein-20231124225400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XOR'easter-20231125185700-Folly_Mox-20231124232600"></span>If a citation includes a <code>title-link</code> parameter or a wikilink in the <code>title</code> itself, that seems like a pretty good sign that a human took the trouble to get the information right. A bot shouldn't override that. <a href="/wiki/User:XOR%27easter" title="User:XOR'easter">XOR'easter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XOR%27easter" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:XOR'easter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-XOR'easter-20231125185700-Folly_Mox-20231124232600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XOR'easter-20231125185700-Folly_Mox-20231124232600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XOR'easter-20231125185700-Folly_Mox-20231124232600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125205400-XOR'easter-20231125185700"></span>This is a subgenre of the issue: <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">existing parameters should be known before an edit is made</span>. If <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title-link=</code> is present, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> should not be altered outside of punctuation changes. If <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|periodical=</code> (or one of its aliases) is present, the wrapper template should not be changed to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. If adding <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|journal=</code> or <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|issue=</code> is present, the wrapper template should be changed to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_conference" title="Template:Cite conference">cite conference</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> rather than <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. If none of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|chapter=</code> match the existing <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> (delta punctuation), there's a mismatch between the database record and the work intending to be cited. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231125205400-XOR'easter-20231125185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231125205400-XOR'easter-20231125185700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231125205400-XOR'easter-20231125185700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231203075500-Oversimplification_of_title"></span>Ok, after seeing this keep going and going with no effort to fix or address the problem, I am going to start adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=Citation bot}} to all new articles I create, instead of merely the ones where I see this happening. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231203075500-Oversimplification_of_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231203075500-Oversimplification_of_title"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231203075500-Oversimplification_of_title"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231204011100-David_Eppstein-20231203075500"></span>If this goes on for too much longer, the next step will be to ask for a full block of the bot. This continued non-response to this problem is unacceptable. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231204011100-David_Eppstein-20231203075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231204011100-David_Eppstein-20231203075500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231204011100-David_Eppstein-20231203075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800-David_Eppstein-20231204011100"></span>I have added "graph drawing" to the rejection list. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800-David_Eppstein-20231204011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 4 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800-David_Eppstein-20231204011100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800-David_Eppstein-20231204011100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231205191500-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800"></span>This applies to all Springer LNCS proceedings, not just that one. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231205191500-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231205191500-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231205191500-AManWithNoPlan-20231204013800"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/6d644b3bbd7fa038c174e8977cb1ad3e09a60ba7"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205195100-David_Eppstein-20231205191500"></span>https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/6d644b3bbd7fa038c174e8977cb1ad3e09a60ba7</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205195100-David_Eppstein-20231205191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205195100-David_Eppstein-20231205191500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231205195100-David_Eppstein-20231205191500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_date_format_repairs" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_date_format_repairs-20231223091800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_date_format_repairs-20231223091800"></span>More date format repairs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_date_format_repairs-20231223091800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231223091800-More_date_format_repairs"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231223091800-More_date_format_repairs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231223091800-More_date_format_repairs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231223091800-More_date_format_repairs"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231223205700-More_date_format_repairs"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Masque_of_the_Red_Death_and_Other_Tales&diff=prev&oldid=1191401402">[71]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ekanit_Panya&diff=prev&oldid=1191402975">[72]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> April-May 1995 to April–May 1995 </p><p>December 7 2023 to December 7, 2023 </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231223205700-More_date_format_repairs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 23 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231223205700-More_date_format_repairs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231223205700-More_date_format_repairs"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_invisible_character_cleanup" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_invisible_character_cleanup-20231222233300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_invisible_character_cleanup-20231222233300"></span>More invisible character cleanup<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_invisible_character_cleanup-20231222233300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231222233300-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20231222233300-More_invisible_character_cleanup" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231222233300-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231222233300-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233600-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eh_Phouthong&diff=prev&oldid=1191342482">[73]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Unicode is only of the most useful tools ever invented that is also pure evil. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233600-More_invisible_character_cleanup" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233600-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231222233600-More_invisible_character_cleanup"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes-20231225050300"><span id="Forced_.22editor.22_parameter_changes"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes-20231225050300"></span>Forced "editor" parameter changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes-20231225050300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aza24-20231225050300-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> With not add editors for those DOIs. Secondly, will consider "others" to be a type of editors, so if "others" is set, then editors will not be added.</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><b><span style="font-family:Lucida;"><a href="/wiki/User:Aza24" title="User:Aza24"><span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aza24" title="User talk:Aza24"><span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Aza24-20231225050300-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aza24-20231225050300-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aza24-20231225050300-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span>What happens</dt> <dd>"others=Revised by" turns into "editor=". These are completely separate parameters. The article in question (along with many other in which I've had to continuously revert this bot) have writers who come and revise article content years later, not act in an editorial position!. <i>Grove</i> literally says "Revised by" in the articles. The editor of the encyclopedia is an entirely different person</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd>Nothing!!</dd> <dt>Relevant diffs/links</dt> <dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ned_Rorem&diff=prev&oldid=1157406659">here</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippe_de_Vitry&diff=prev&oldid=1158128873">here</a></dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> It is just really dandy that the publisher reports that information as the editors. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://api.crossref.org/works/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.article.48611">https://api.crossref.org/works/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.article.48611</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100-Forced_"editor"_parameter_changes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aza24-20231226004500-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100"></span>The editor of <i>Grove</i> is Deane Root; the subject editors are other people as well. Grove is clearly inconsistent on how they label the revisers; if you use their citation generator, it just lists them all as authors, yet they note that "James Holmes, revised by Anthony Tommasini and Arlys McDonald" at the article's top. I don't like to list all as authors, since one can easily look at the past revision and see that the article has a clear primary author, whose text was either slightly amended are added to. Readers are expecting an "editor" in a citation to be on in the traditional sense, which these people are certainly not. <b><span style="font-family:Lucida;"><a href="/wiki/User:Aza24" title="User:Aza24"><span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aza24" title="User talk:Aza24"><span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Aza24-20231226004500-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aza24-20231226004500-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aza24-20231226004500-AManWithNoPlan-20231225213100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Eppstein-20231226005700-Aza24-20231226004500"></span>It is just really dandy that a bot, whose raison d'etre is to clean up citations on Wikipedia that humans have messed up by cramming metadata into the wrong fields, puts all its trust into citations messed up in exactly the same way on other sites, and uses that messed-up data to replace better data in cases when the human editors here have already put care into getting it right. —<a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">David Eppstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Eppstein" title="User talk:David Eppstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-David_Eppstein-20231226005700-Aza24-20231226004500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Eppstein-20231226005700-Aza24-20231226004500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Eppstein-20231226005700-Aza24-20231226004500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal-20231226132800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal-20231226132800"></span>Christian Science Monitor is not an academic journal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal-20231226132800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231226132800-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> by flagging as a "magazine", which is cite peridical</dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231226132800-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231226132800-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231226132800-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span>What happens</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1191786935" title="Special:Diff/1191786935">Special:Diff/1191786935</a>: <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>s sourced to <i><a href="/wiki/Christian_Science_Monitor" class="mw-redirect" title="Christian Science Monitor">Christian Science Monitor</a></i> incorrectly identify it as a journal, fail to retrieve authorship and publication date</dd> <dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1191897834" title="Special:Diff/1191897834">Special:Diff/1191897834</a>: I went with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_periodical" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite periodical">cite periodical</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, but <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news" title="Template:Cite news">cite news</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> may have been equally appropriate.</dd> <dt>We can't proceed until</dt> <dd>Feedback from maintainers</dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> Isn't <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news" title="Template:Cite news">cite news</a>}}</code> and probably <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=The Christian Science Monitor</code> a better choice? At <i><a href="/wiki/The_Christian_Science_Monitor" title="The Christian Science Monitor">The Christian Science Monitor</a></i> we describe the organization as a 'nonprofit news organization that publishes daily articles both in electronic format and a weekly print edition' originally established 'as a daily newspaper'. </p><p>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400-Christian_Science_Monitor_is_not_an_academic_journal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20231226171900-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400"></span>Yes, I see now they don't have issue numbers. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1191928934" title="Special:Diff/1191928934">Fixed</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Folly_Mox-20231226171900-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20231226171900-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20231226171900-Trappist_the_monk-20231226161400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231226173300-Folly_Mox-20231226171900"></span>Swapped to cite news. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20231226173300-Folly_Mox-20231226171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231226173300-Folly_Mox-20231226171900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20231226173300-Folly_Mox-20231226171900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_down?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_down?-20240105201400"><span id="Bot_down.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_down?-20240105201400"></span>Bot down?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_down?-20240105201400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240105201400-Bot_down?"></span>Seems to not be working ATM. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20240105201400-Bot_down?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240105201400-Bot_down?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240105201400-Bot_down?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-20240105232200-Headbomb-20240105201400"></span>Also experiencing this - the <a class="external text" href="https://citations.toolforge.org/">main page</a> loads, but any attempt to run the bot on a specific page results in an HTTP ERROR 500 message. —<a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Ganesha811-20240105232200-Headbomb-20240105201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-20240105232200-Headbomb-20240105201400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-20240105232200-Headbomb-20240105201400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106023400-Ganesha811-20240105232200"></span>Rebooted and <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106023400-Ganesha811-20240105232200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106023400-Ganesha811-20240105232200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106023400-Ganesha811-20240105232200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Caps:_CRISPR" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caps:_CRISPR-20240105203300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caps:_CRISPR-20240105203300"></span>Caps: CRISPR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caps:_CRISPR-20240105203300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="clear: both; margin: 1em 0 0 0; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 1em; background-color:#ccc; border-color:cde"> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240105203300-Caps:_CRISPR"></span>Status</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b></dd> <dt>Reported by</dt> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20240105203300-Caps:_CRISPR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240105203300-Caps:_CRISPR"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240105203300-Caps:_CRISPR"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>What should happen</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Locus_Biosciences&diff=prev&oldid=1193818868">[74]</a></dd></dl> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format-20240105063000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format-20240105063000"></span>Enable 1-click activation of <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_date_format" title="Category:CS1 maint: date format">Category:CS1 maint: date format</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format-20240105063000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240105063000-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span>Would be useful to clear most of that category. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20240105063000-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240105063000-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240105063000-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240105070900-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span> Same for </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_extra_text:_edition" title="Category:CS1 errors: extra text: edition">Category:CS1 errors: extra text: edition‎</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_extra_text:_issue" title="Category:CS1 errors: extra text: issue">Category:CS1 errors: extra text: issue‎</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_extra_text:_pages" title="Category:CS1 errors: extra text: pages">Category:CS1 errors: extra text: pages‎</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_extra_text:_volume" title="Category:CS1 errors: extra text: volume">Category:CS1 errors: extra text: volume‎</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_chapter_ignored" title="Category:CS1 errors: chapter ignored">Category:CS1 errors: chapter ignored</a></li></ul> <p> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20240105070900-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240105070900-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240105070900-Enable_1-click_activation_of_Category:CS1_maint:_date_format"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100-Headbomb-20240105070900"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fixed" title="Template:Fixed">fixed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100-Headbomb-20240105070900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100-Headbomb-20240105070900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100-Headbomb-20240105070900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240106061000-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100"></span>Nope, not fixed. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-Headbomb-20240106061000-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240106061000-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240106061000-AManWithNoPlan-20240105152100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106152800-Headbomb-20240106061000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_keep.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Fixed</b> I did not see the one in the title. <a href="/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_37#c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106152800-Headbomb-20240106061000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106152800-Headbomb-20240106061000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AManWithNoPlan-20240106152800-Headbomb-20240106061000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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