CINXE.COM

<!DOCTYPE html> <html class="client-nojs skin-theme-clientpref-day mf-expand-sections-clientpref-0 mf-font-size-clientpref-small mw-mf-amc-clientpref-0" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <head> <meta charset="UTF-8"> <title>Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk - Wikipedia</title> <script>(function(){var className="client-js skin-theme-clientpref-day mf-expand-sections-clientpref-0 mf-font-size-clientpref-small mw-mf-amc-clientpref-0";var cookie=document.cookie.match(/(?:^|; )enwikimwclientpreferences=([^;]+)/);if(cookie){cookie[1].split('%2C').forEach(function(pref){className=className.replace(new RegExp('(^| )'+pref.replace(/-clientpref-\w+$|[^\w-]+/g,'')+'-clientpref-\\w+( |$)'),'$1'+pref+'$2');});}document.documentElement.className=className;}());RLCONF={"wgBreakFrames":false,"wgSeparatorTransformTable":["",""],"wgDigitTransformTable":["",""],"wgDefaultDateFormat":"dmy","wgMonthNames":["","January","February","March","April","May","June","July","August","September","October","November","December"],"wgRequestId":"4d3848a8-d9b1-4d9d-876a-640c5eb08c86","wgCanonicalNamespace":"Project","wgCanonicalSpecialPageName":false,"wgNamespaceNumber":4,"wgPageName":"Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk","wgTitle":"WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk", "wgCurRevisionId":1278295249,"wgRevisionId":1278295249,"wgArticleId":34595875,"wgIsArticle":true,"wgIsRedirect":false,"wgAction":"view","wgUserName":null,"wgUserGroups":["*"],"wgPageViewLanguage":"en","wgPageContentLanguage":"en","wgPageContentModel":"wikitext","wgRelevantPageName":"Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk","wgRelevantArticleId":34595875,"wgIsProbablyEditable":true,"wgRelevantPageIsProbablyEditable":true,"wgRestrictionEdit":[],"wgRestrictionMove":["sysop"],"wgNoticeProject":"wikipedia","wgCiteReferencePreviewsActive":false,"wgFlaggedRevsParams":{"tags":{"status":{"levels":1}}},"wgMediaViewerOnClick":true,"wgMediaViewerEnabledByDefault":true,"wgPopupsFlags":0,"wgVisualEditor":{"pageLanguageCode":"en","pageLanguageDir":"ltr","pageVariantFallbacks":"en"},"wgMFMode":"stable","wgMFAmc":false,"wgMFAmcOutreachActive":false,"wgMFAmcOutreachUserEligible":false,"wgMFLazyLoadImages":true,"wgMFEditNoticesFeatureConflict":false,"wgMFDisplayWikibaseDescriptions":{ "search":true,"watchlist":true,"tagline":false,"nearby":true},"wgMFIsSupportedEditRequest":true,"wgMFScriptPath":"","wgWMESchemaEditAttemptStepOversample":false,"wgWMEPageLength":100000,"wgEditSubmitButtonLabelPublish":true,"wgDiscussionToolsFeaturesEnabled":{"replytool":true,"newtopictool":true,"sourcemodetoolbar":true,"topicsubscription":false,"autotopicsub":false,"visualenhancements":true,"visualenhancements_reply":true,"visualenhancements_pageframe":true},"wgDiscussionToolsFallbackEditMode":"source","wgSectionTranslationTargetLanguages":["ace","ady","alt","am","ami","an","ang","ann","anp","ar","ary","arz","as","ast","av","avk","awa","ay","az","azb","ba","ban","bar","bbc","bcl","bdr","be","bew","bg","bho","bi","bjn","blk","bm","bn","bo","bpy","br","bs","btm","bug","ca","cdo","ce","ceb","ch","chr","ckb","co","cr","crh","cs","cu","cy","da","dag","de","dga","din","diq","dsb","dtp","dv","dz","ee","el","eml","eo","es","et","eu","fa","fat","ff","fi","fj","fo","fon","fr","frp","frr","fur", "fy","gag","gan","gcr","gl","glk","gn","gom","gor","gpe","gu","guc","gur","guw","gv","ha","hak","haw","he","hi","hif","hr","hsb","ht","hu","hy","hyw","ia","iba","ie","ig","igl","ilo","io","is","it","iu","ja","jam","jv","ka","kaa","kab","kbd","kbp","kcg","kg","kge","ki","kk","kl","km","kn","knc","ko","koi","krc","ks","ku","kus","kv","kw","ky","lad","lb","lez","lg","li","lij","lld","lmo","ln","lo","lt","ltg","lv","mad","mai","map-bms","mdf","mg","mhr","mi","min","mk","ml","mn","mni","mnw","mos","mr","mrj","ms","mt","mwl","my","myv","mzn","nah","nan","nap","nb","nds","nds-nl","ne","new","nia","nl","nn","nqo","nr","nso","ny","oc","om","or","os","pa","pag","pam","pap","pcd","pcm","pdc","pl","pms","pnb","ps","pt","pwn","qu","rm","rn","ro","rsk","rue","rup","rw","sa","sah","sat","sc","scn","sco","sd","se","sg","sgs","sh","shi","shn","si","sk","skr","sl","sm","smn","sn","so","sq","sr","srn","ss","st","stq","su","sv","sw","syl","szl","ta","tay","tcy","tdd","te","tet","tg","th","ti","tig","tk", "tl","tly","tn","to","tpi","tr","trv","ts","tt","tum","tw","ty","tyv","udm","ur","uz","ve","vec","vep","vi","vls","vo","vro","wa","war","wo","wuu","xal","xh","xmf","yi","yo","yue","za","zgh","zh","zu"],"isLanguageSearcherCXEntrypointEnabled":false,"mintEntrypointLanguages":["ace","ast","azb","bcl","bjn","bh","crh","ff","fon","ig","is","ki","ks","lmo","min","sat","ss","tn","vec"],"wgWikibaseItemId":"Q56887372","wgCheckUserClientHintsHeadersJsApi":["brands","architecture","bitness","fullVersionList","mobile","model","platform","platformVersion"],"GEHomepageSuggestedEditsEnableTopics":true,"wgGETopicsMatchModeEnabled":false,"wgGEStructuredTaskRejectionReasonTextInputEnabled":false,"wgGELevelingUpEnabledForUser":false,"wgMinervaPermissions":{"watchable":true,"watch":false},"wgMinervaFeatures":{"beta":false,"donate":true,"mobileOptionsLink":true,"categories":false,"pageIssues":true,"talkAtTop":true,"historyInPageActions":false,"overflowSubmenu":false,"tabsOnSpecials":true,"personalMenu": false,"mainMenuExpanded":false,"echo":true,"nightMode":true},"wgMinervaDownloadNamespaces":[0]};RLSTATE={"ext.globalCssJs.user.styles":"ready","site.styles":"ready","user.styles":"ready","ext.globalCssJs.user":"ready","user":"ready","user.options":"loading","ext.discussionTools.init.styles":"ready","oojs-ui-core.styles":"ready","oojs-ui.styles.indicators":"ready","mediawiki.widgets.styles":"ready","oojs-ui-core.icons":"ready","oojs-ui.styles.icons-content":"ready","oojs-ui.styles.icons-interactions":"ready","oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-core":"ready","skins.minerva.styles":"ready","skins.minerva.content.styles.images":"ready","mediawiki.hlist":"ready","skins.minerva.codex.styles":"ready","skins.minerva.icons":"ready","skins.minerva.amc.styles":"ready","ext.wikimediamessages.styles":"ready","mobile.init.styles":"ready","oojs-ui.styles.icons-alerts":"ready","wikibase.client.init":"ready"};RLPAGEMODULES=["site","mediawiki.page.ready","skins.minerva.scripts","ext.centralNotice.geoIP", "ext.centralNotice.startUp","ext.gadget.switcher","ext.urlShortener.toolbar","ext.centralauth.centralautologin","ext.popups","mobile.init","ext.echo.centralauth","ext.discussionTools.init","ext.eventLogging","ext.wikimediaEvents","ext.navigationTiming","ext.cx.eventlogging.campaigns","ext.cx.entrypoints.languagesearcher.init","mw.externalguidance.init","ext.checkUser.clientHints"];</script> <script>(RLQ=window.RLQ||[]).push(function(){mw.loader.impl(function(){return["user.options@12s5i",function($,jQuery,require,module){mw.user.tokens.set({"patrolToken":"+\\","watchToken":"+\\","csrfToken":"+\\"}); }];});});</script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init.styles%7Cext.wikimediamessages.styles%7Cmediawiki.hlist%7Cmediawiki.widgets.styles%7Cmobile.init.styles%7Coojs-ui-core.icons%2Cstyles%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-alerts%2Cicons-content%2Cicons-editing-core%2Cicons-interactions%2Cindicators%7Cskins.minerva.amc.styles%7Cskins.minerva.codex.styles%7Cskins.minerva.content.styles.images%7Cskins.minerva.icons%2Cstyles%7Cwikibase.client.init&only=styles&skin=minerva"> <script async="" src="/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=minerva"></script> <meta name="ResourceLoaderDynamicStyles" content=""> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=minerva"> <meta name="generator" content="MediaWiki 1.44.0-wmf.18"> <meta name="referrer" content="origin"> <meta name="referrer" content="origin-when-cross-origin"> <meta name="robots" content="max-image-preview:standard"> <meta name="format-detection" content="telephone=no"> <meta name="theme-color" content="#eaecf0"> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, user-scalable=yes, minimum-scale=0.25, maximum-scale=5.0"> <meta property="og:title" content="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk - Wikipedia"> <meta property="og:type" content="website"> <link rel="preconnect" href="//upload.wikimedia.org"> <link rel="manifest" href="/w/api.php?action=webapp-manifest"> <link rel="alternate" type="application/x-wiki" title="Edit this page" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit"> <link rel="apple-touch-icon" href="/static/apple-touch/wikipedia.png"> <link rel="icon" href="/static/favicon/wikipedia.ico"> <link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="/w/rest.php/v1/search" title="Wikipedia (en)"> <link rel="EditURI" type="application/rsd+xml" href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=rsd"> <link rel="canonical" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk"> <link rel="license" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en"> <link rel="dns-prefetch" href="//meta.wikimedia.org" /> <link rel="dns-prefetch" href="login.wikimedia.org"> </head> <body class="ext-discussiontools-replytool-enabled ext-discussiontools-newtopictool-enabled ext-discussiontools-sourcemodetoolbar-enabled ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements-enabled ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements_reply-enabled ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements_pageframe-enabled collapsible-headings-collapsed ext-discussiontools-init-new-topic-opened mediawiki ltr sitedir-ltr mw-hide-empty-elt ns-4 ns-subject mw-editable page-Wikipedia_WikiProject_Articles_for_creation_Help_desk rootpage-Wikipedia_WikiProject_Articles_for_creation stable skin-minerva action-view skin--responsive mw-mf-amc-disabled mw-mf"><div id="mw-mf-viewport"> <div id="mw-mf-page-center"> <a class="mw-mf-page-center__mask" href="#"></a> <header class="header-container header-chrome"> <div class="minerva-header"> <nav class="navigation-drawer toggle-list view-border-box"> <input type="checkbox" id="main-menu-input" class="toggle-list__checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" aria-expanded="false" aria-labelledby="mw-mf-main-menu-button"> <label role="button" for="main-menu-input" id="mw-mf-main-menu-button" aria-hidden="true" data-event-name="ui.mainmenu" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet toggle-list__toggle"> </label> <div id="mw-mf-page-left" class="menu view-border-box"> <ul id="p-navigation" class="toggle-list__list"> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--home" href="/wiki/Main_Page" data-mw="interface"> Home </a> </li> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--random" href="/wiki/Special:Random" data-mw="interface"> Random </a> </li> <li class="toggle-list-item skin-minerva-list-item-jsonly"> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--nearby" href="/wiki/Special:Nearby" data-event-name="menu.nearby" data-mw="interface"> Nearby </a> </li> </ul> <ul id="p-personal" class="toggle-list__list"> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor mw-list-item menu__item--login" href="/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk" data-event-name="menu.login" data-mw="interface"> Log in </a> </li> </ul> <ul id="pt-preferences" class="toggle-list__list"> <li class="toggle-list-item skin-minerva-list-item-jsonly"> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--settings" href="/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk" data-event-name="menu.settings" data-mw="interface"> Settings </a> </li> </ul> <ul id="p-donation" class="toggle-list__list"> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--donate" href="https://donate.wikimedia.org/?wmf_source=donate&wmf_medium=sidebar&wmf_campaign=en.wikipedia.org&uselang=en&wmf_key=minerva" data-event-name="menu.donate" data-mw="interface"> Donate </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="hlist"> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--about" href="/wiki/Wikipedia:About" data-mw="interface"> About Wikipedia </a> </li> <li class="toggle-list-item "> <a class="toggle-list-item__anchor menu__item--disclaimers" href="/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer" data-mw="interface"> Disclaimers </a> </li> </ul> </div> <label class="main-menu-mask" for="main-menu-input"></label> </nav> <div class="branding-box"> <a href="/wiki/Main_Page"> <img src="/static/images/mobile/copyright/wikipedia-wordmark-en.svg" alt="Wikipedia" width="120" height="18" style="width: 7.5em; height: 1.125em;"/> </a> </div> <form action="/w/index.php" method="get" class="minerva-search-form"> <div class="search-box"> <input type="hidden" name="title" value="Special:Search"/> <input class="search skin-minerva-search-trigger" id="searchInput" type="search" name="search" placeholder="Search Wikipedia" aria-label="Search Wikipedia" autocapitalize="sentences" title="Search Wikipedia [f]" accesskey="f"> </div> <button id="searchIcon" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet skin-minerva-search-trigger"> Search </button> </form> <nav class="minerva-user-navigation" aria-label="User navigation"> </nav> </div> </header> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <div class="banner-container"> <div id="siteNotice"></div> </div> <div class="pre-content heading-holder"> <div class="page-heading"> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading">Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk</h1> <div class="tagline"></div> </div> <ul id="p-associated-pages" class="minerva__tab-container"> <li class="minerva__tab selected mw-list-item"> <a class="minerva__tab-text" href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk" rel="" data-event-name="tabs.project">Project page</a> </li> <li class="minerva__tab mw-list-item"> <a class="minerva__tab-text" href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk" rel="discussion" data-event-name="tabs.project_talk">Talk</a> </li> </ul> <nav class="page-actions-menu"> <ul id="p-views" class="page-actions-menu__list"> <li id="language-selector" class="page-actions-menu__list-item"> <a role="button" href="#p-lang" data-mw="interface" data-event-name="menu.languages" title="Language" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet language-selector"> Language </a> </li> <li id="page-actions-watch" class="page-actions-menu__list-item"> <a role="button" id="ca-watch" href="/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk" data-event-name="menu.watch" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet menu__item--page-actions-watch"> Watch </a> </li> <li id="page-actions-edit" class="page-actions-menu__list-item"> <a role="button" id="ca-edit" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit" data-event-name="menu.edit" data-mw="interface" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet edit-page menu__item--page-actions-edit"> Edit </a> </li> </ul> </nav>  <div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="subpages">< <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation">Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation</a></bdi></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250301162800-TRusso78-20250301160800">40 minutes ago</a> by 331dot in topic <a href="#20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78">20:55, 24 February 2025 review of submission by TRusso78</a></div></div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="content"> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><script>function mfTempOpenSection(id){var block=document.getElementById("mf-section-"+id);block.className+=" open-block";block.previousSibling.className+=" open-block";}</script><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><section class="mf-section-0" id="mf-section-0"><div class="skin-invert"><table role="presentation" style="width: 100%; vertical-align: top; border: 0px; border-spacing: 0; margin:0;"><tbody><tr><td style="width: -4%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation">Main page</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation">Talk page</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #8AFC3F; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Submissions" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Submissions">Submissions</a> <a href="/wiki/Category:Pending_AfC_submissions" title="Category:Pending AfC submissions">Category</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfC_sorting" title="Wikipedia:AfC sorting">Sorting</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">Feed</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Showcase" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Showcase">Showcase</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants">Participants</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants">Apply</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/List_of_reviewers_by_subject" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/List of reviewers by subject">By subject</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions">Reviewing instructions</a> </td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #E6FFE6; border-bottom-color: #E6FFE6; font-weight:bold; width: 13%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Help desk</a></td><td style="width: -8%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td><td style="text-align: center; border-radius:1em 1em 0 0; padding:0.3em; border: 1px solid #000; font-size: 110%; background-color: #57DB1E; color:inherit; width: 13%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Backlog_elimination_drives" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Backlog elimination drives">Backlog drives</a> </td><td style="width: -4%; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border: 1px solid #000; border-top: none; background-color: #E6FFE6; color: black; padding: .5em 1em 1em 1em;"><div style="padding: 1ex"> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li .module-shortcutanchordiv{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mbox-imageright .module-shortcutboxplain{padding:0.4em 1em 0.4em 1em;line-height:1.3;margin:0}</style><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WPAFC/HD&redirect=no">WP:WPAFC/HD</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AFCHD&redirect=no">WP:AFCHD</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AFCHELP&redirect=no">WP:AFCHELP</a></li></ul></div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;">Welcome to the Articles for Creation help desk</div> <ul><li>This page is only for questions about article submissions—are you in the right place? <ul><li>For questions on how to use or edit Wikipedia, visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">the Teahouse</a>.</li> <li>For unrelated questions, use the <a href="/wiki/Special:Search" title="Special:Search">search box</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk" title="Wikipedia:Reference desk">reference desk</a>.</li> <li>Create a draft via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard" title="Wikipedia:Article wizard">Article wizard</a> or request an article at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles">requested articles</a>.</li></ul></li> <li>Do not provide your email address or other contact details. Answers will be provided on this page.</li> <li>Watch out for scammers! If someone contacts you saying that they can get your draft published for payment, they are trying to scam you. Report such attempts here. </li></ul></div></div></div> <table style="background: #FFF; font-size: 125%; text-align: center; border: 1px solid #000; border-top: 0px; width: 100%; border-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse;"> <tbody><tr> <td><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js">Ask a new question</a> Please check back often for answers. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="width: 100%; clear: both;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: center; font-size: 75%; font: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href="#March_1">Skip to today's questions</a> · <a href="#footer">Skip to the bottom</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives">Archived discussions</a> </th></tr></tbody></table> <div id="AfChd-pageNavBox" class="mw-collapsible pageNavBox nowrap" style="position: fixed; left: 10px; bottom: 10px; display: block; width: 150px; z-index: 999; overflow: hidden; border: 1px solid #A7D7F9; background-color: #FFF;" data-collapsetext=" Hide " data-expandtext=" Show links "> <ul><li><a href="#mw-head">Top of page</a></li> <li><a href="#toc">Table of Contents</a></li> <li><a href="#March_1">Today's posts</a></li> <li><a href="#footer">Bottom of page</a></li></ul></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1201045014">.mw-parser-output #skip-to-top-button,.mw-parser-output #skip-to-bottom-button{position:fixed;bottom:8px;z-index:50}.mw-parser-output #skip-to-top-button:hover,.mw-parser-output #skip-to-bottom-button:hover{filter:brightness(1.05)}.mw-parser-output #skip-to-top-button:active,.mw-parser-output #skip-to-bottom-button:active{filter:brightness(0.95)}.mw-parser-output #skip-to-bottom-button{right:8px}.mw-parser-output #skip-to-top-button{right:64px}@media(min-width:1400px){body.skin-vector-2022 .mw-parser-output #skip-to-bottom-button{right:68px}body.skin-vector-2022 .mw-parser-output #skip-to-top-button{right:124px}}</style> <div class="noprint" id="skip-to-top-button"><a href="#top" title="Skip to top"><img alt="Skip to top" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Skip_to_top3.svg/50px-Skip_to_top3.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="43" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Skip_to_top3.svg/75px-Skip_to_top3.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Skip_to_top3.svg/100px-Skip_to_top3.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="440" data-file-height="374"></a></div> <div class="noprint" id="skip-to-bottom-button"><a href="#skip-to-bottom-anchor" title="Skip to bottom"><img alt="Skip to bottom" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Skip_to_bottom3.svg/50px-Skip_to_bottom3.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="43" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Skip_to_bottom3.svg/75px-Skip_to_bottom3.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Skip_to_bottom3.svg/100px-Skip_to_bottom3.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="440" data-file-height="374"></a></div><div id="skip-to-bottom-anchor" style="position: absolute; bottom: 0;"></div> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#February_23">1 February 23</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD">1.1 07:01, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Армен Меликян</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123">1.2 09:38, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Truth Layer 123</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5">1.3 09:48, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Sainter5</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia">1.4 10:07, 23 February 2025 review of submission by AP of Euranasia</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82">1.5 12:43, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drego82</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio">1.6 12:49, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drinfio</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2">1.7 13:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999">1.8 14:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Scottlinehan1999</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333">1.9 18:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Get out 333</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C">1.10 18:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505">1.11 22:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Viv2505</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995">1.12 22:32, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Las-Giddy 1995</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235">1.13 22:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2.66.51.235</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#February_24">2 February 24</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings">2.1 00:17, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Thetradings</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-3"><a href="#00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc">2.2 00:33, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Mateo Inc</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-4"><a href="#07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul">2.3 07:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Aami.jiarul</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad">2.4 12:06, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Kalingad</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6"><a href="#13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip">2.5 13:25, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Fibip</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7"><a href="#15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four">2.6 15:19, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 27four</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-8"><a href="#16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163">2.7 16:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 220.233.199.163</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-9"><a href="#16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein">2.8 16:57, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Ismatzein</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-10"><a href="#19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324">2.9 19:16, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Leo2324</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-11"><a href="#19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52">2.10 19:59, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 158.93.6.52</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-12"><a href="#20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567">2.11 20:14, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Userpy4567</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-13"><a href="#20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187">2.12 20:20, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 50.86.96.187</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-14"><a href="#20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78">2.13 20:55, 24 February 2025 review of submission by TRusso78</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-15"><a href="#22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E">2.14 22:40, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#February_25">3 February 25</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-17"><a href="#05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123">3.1 05:52, 25 February 2025 review of submission by SantiagoM123</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-18"><a href="#12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025">3.2 12:33, 25 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-19"><a href="#13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic">3.3 13:45, 25 February 2025 review of submission by DarthDajic</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-20"><a href="#13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%D7%A1.%D7%92'%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99">3.4 13:58, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ס.ג'יבלי</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-21"><a href="#16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia">3.5 16:03, 25 February 2025 review of submission by RajputHistoryIndia</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-22"><a href="#16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati">3.6 16:34, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Albieabbiati</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-23"><a href="#17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind">3.7 17:12, 25 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-24"><a href="#19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc">3.8 19:47, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Wznbfc</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-25"><a href="#21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain">3.9 21:48, 25 February 2025 review of submission by AladdinSustain</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-26"><a href="#22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato">3.10 22:09, 25 February 2025 review of submission by B52 strato</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-27"><a href="#22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage">3.11 22:31, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ScreenSage</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#February_26">4 February 26</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-29"><a href="#09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro">4.1 09:12, 26 February 2025 review of submission by DaniKro</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-30"><a href="#09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161">4.2 09:19, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 46.246.135.161</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-31"><a href="#10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101">4.3 10:37, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Toblerone101</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-32"><a href="#10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison">4.4 10:38, 26 February 2025 review of submission by RobbieIanMorrison</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-33"><a href="#13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23">4.5 13:21, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Queenday23</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-34"><a href="#13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025">4.6 13:40, 26 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-35"><a href="#14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher">4.7 14:44, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Abduddaher</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-36"><a href="#17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247">4.8 17:43, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 115.96.219.247</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#February_27">5 February 27</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-38"><a href="#00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11">5.1 00:31, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Theconnorrossfangirl11</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-39"><a href="#01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm">5.2 01:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Mohshinhm</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-40"><a href="#05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans">5.3 05:42, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MikeatVans</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-41"><a href="#09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35">5.4 09:13, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 115.131.47.35</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-42"><a href="#10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room">5.5 10:49, 27 February 2025 review of submission by ChrisN at The Student Room</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-43"><a href="#13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread">5.6 13:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Acakebread</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-44"><a href="#14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit">5.7 14:59, 27 February 2025 review of submission by SapphireBandit</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-45"><a href="#15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1">5.8 15:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Riteshkumarjee1</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-46"><a href="#15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd">5.9 15:41, 27 February 2025 review of submission by GearNerd</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-47"><a href="#15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula">5.10 15:46, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Yogeshsitoula</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-48"><a href="#16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN">5.11 16:23, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MicronationUCCN</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-49"><a href="#18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667">5.12 18:44, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-50"><a href="#19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher">5.13 19:53, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Hillaryasher</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-51"><a href="#19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt">5.14 19:54, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Essixt</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-52"><a href="#22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork">5.15 22:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by DanielDominguezWork</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-53"><a href="#23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208">5.16 23:30, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.208</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#February_28">6 February 28</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-55"><a href="#01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247">6.1 01:55, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.247</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-56"><a href="#03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow">6.2 03:22, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Okiknowyouknow</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-57"><a href="#03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0">6.3 03:38, 28 February 2025 review of submission by संतोषदर</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-58"><a href="#05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234">6.4 05:02, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.234</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-59"><a href="#05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma">6.5 05:52, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Mukat lal sharma</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-60"><a href="#05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667">6.6 05:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-61"><a href="#06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135">6.7 06:56, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 164.160.184.135</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-62"><a href="#Drafts">6.8 Drafts</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-63"><a href="#09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco">6.9 09:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Ruth-andco</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-64"><a href="#13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind">6.10 13:49, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-65"><a href="#14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider">6.11 14:18, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Snakebitesspider</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-66"><a href="#16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3">6.12 16:37, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BubbaLoja3</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-67"><a href="#19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr">6.13 19:03, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Asamadbhr</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-68"><a href="#21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind">6.14 21:57, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-69"><a href="#March_1">7 March 1</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-70"><a href="#01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen">7.1 01:20, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Harlanchen</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-71"><a href="#07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke">7.2 07:58, 1 March 2025 review of submission by 2facedduke</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-72"><a href="#09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju">7.3 09:28, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Sunuraju</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-73"><a href="#12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo">7.4 12:33, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Caterina Lo</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-74"><a href="#14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta">7.5 14:01, 1 March 2025 review of submission by KuturankiAuta</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-75"><a href="#14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie">7.6 14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-76"><a href="#14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2">7.7 14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><h1 id="February_23" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_23-20250223070100">February 23</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: February 23" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Армен_Меликян" data-mw-thread-id="h-07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Армен_Меликян-February_23-20250223070100">07:01, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Армен Меликян</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-2" title="Edit section: 07:01, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Армен Меликян" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-274' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jéské_Couriano-20250223070500-Армен_Меликян-20250223070100">6 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Армен Меликян (page does not exist)">Армен Меликян</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD" title="User talk:Армен Меликян">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD" title="Special:Contributions/Армен Меликян">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=07%3A01%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD+%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations" title="Draft:Campaign of Media Allegations">Draft:Campaign of Media Allegations</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations" title="Draft talk:Campaign of Media Allegations">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Campaign_of_Media_Allegations&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ACampaign+of+Media+Allegations">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> <pre>I wanted to post an article about media attacks and fake articles, why not about commissioned articles? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Армен Меликян (page does not exist)">Армен Меликян</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD" title="User talk:Армен Меликян">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD-20250223070100-07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Армен Меликян (page does not exist)">Армен Меликян</a>: Because you <a href="/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners" title="Help:Referencing for beginners">fail to properly cite your sources</a>. A list of plaintext URLs at the bottom is not sufficient given we're also discussing what is effectively a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biography of a living person</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250223070500-%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8F%D0%BD-20250223070100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123-February_23-20250223093800">09:38, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Truth Layer 123</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-3" title="Edit section: 09:38, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Truth Layer 123" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-275' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Truth_Layer_123-20250223104800-DoubleGrazing-20250223095100">6 days ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Truth_Layer_123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Truth Layer 123 (page does not exist)">Truth Layer 123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Truth_Layer_123" title="User talk:Truth Layer 123">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Truth_Layer_123" title="Special:Contributions/Truth Layer 123">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Truth_Layer_123&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A38%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Truth+Layer+123">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust" title="Draft:Visakhapatnam Drug Bust">Draft:Visakhapatnam Drug Bust</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust" title="Draft talk:Visakhapatnam Drug Bust">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Visakhapatnam_Drug_Bust&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AVisakhapatnam+Drug+Bust">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> This draft, in my opinion, follows the Wikipedia's manual of style. It is noteworthy since it is covered hugely on international channels and isn't a single incident, as it was also cited as one of the factors in the opposition party's defeat in 2024 elections. I'd like to hear more people's thoughts about the draft. Please advise me on any necessary modifications. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Truth_Layer_123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Truth Layer 123 (page does not exist)">Truth Layer 123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Truth_Layer_123" title="User talk:Truth Layer 123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Truth_Layer_123-20250223093800-09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I'm in agreement with the last reviewer, it reads like a news article, and not an encyclopedia article. It's "telling" and not "summarizing". <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223094300-Truth_Layer_123-20250223093800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I agree. There is also content in there which comes across as commentary or conjecture, although TBF I've not checked the sources to see if all of that comes from them or from the draft author.</dd> <dd>The lead section also should be rewritten to better comply with <a href="/wiki/MOS:LEAD" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:LEAD">MOS:LEAD</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250223095100-331dot-20250223094300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> I will do necessary changes today and will resubmit the draft again. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Truth_Layer_123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Truth Layer 123 (page does not exist)">Truth Layer 123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Truth_Layer_123" title="User talk:Truth Layer 123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Truth_Layer_123-20250223104800-DoubleGrazing-20250223095100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5-February_23-20250223094800">09:48, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Sainter5</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-4" title="Edit section: 09:48, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Sainter5" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-276' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250223095300-Sainter5-20250223094800">6 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sainter5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sainter5 (page does not exist)">Sainter5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sainter5" title="User talk:Sainter5">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sainter5" title="Special:Contributions/Sainter5">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sainter5&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A48%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Sainter5">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club" title="Draft:Williamstown Wolves Baseball Club">Draft:Williamstown Wolves Baseball Club</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club" title="Draft talk:Williamstown Wolves Baseball Club">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Williamstown_Wolves_Baseball_Club&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AWilliamstown+Wolves+Baseball+Club">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi, I would appreciate any help you can give me to accepting this page. This is the first article i have raised, it's genuine for the baseball club that I am involved in. There are other baseball club Wiki pages which I have modelled this page from. All content is unique and true to Williamstown Baseball Club. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sainter5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sainter5 (page does not exist)">Sainter5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sainter5" title="User talk:Sainter5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Sainter5-20250223094800-09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sainter5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sainter5 (page does not exist)">Sainter5</a> If you are associated with this club, that must be disclosed, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>.</dd> <dd>While understandable, it is a poor idea to use any random article as a model or example, as those too could be inappopriate and you would be unaware of that as a newer/inexperienced user. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OSE">other stuff exists</a>. There are many ways to get inappropriate content past us, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. This is a volunteer project where people do what they can, when they can, so not all problematic content is removed immediately, or even detected immediately. We can only address what we know about. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those that are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE">classified as good articles</a>, which have received community vetting.</dd> <dd>No one disputes that your club is "genuine". Genuine-ness isn't sufficient grounds for an article. You must summarize what independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about your club and what makes it a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORG">notable organization as Wikipedia defines one</a>. This is why it was rejected, and will not be considered further. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223095200-Sainter5-20250223094800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>If you would like to help us, please identify these other articles you used as a model so we can take action and prevent others from doing as you did. We're only as good as the people who choose to help us. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223095300-Sainter5-20250223094800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia" data-mw-thread-id="h-10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia-February_23-20250223100700">10:07, 23 February 2025 review of submission by AP of Euranasia</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-5" title="Edit section: 10:07, 23 February 2025 review of submission by AP of Euranasia" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-277' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250223101000-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700">6 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AP_of_Euranasia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AP of Euranasia (page does not exist)">AP of Euranasia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_of_Euranasia" title="User talk:AP of Euranasia">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AP_of_Euranasia" title="Special:Contributions/AP of Euranasia">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AP_of_Euranasia&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=10%3A07%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+AP+of+Euranasia">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Islamic State of Azerbaijan (page does not exist)">Draft:Islamic State of Azerbaijan</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Islamic State of Azerbaijan (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Islamic_State_of_Azerbaijan&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AIslamic+State+of+Azerbaijan">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> How to add this article? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AP_of_Euranasia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AP of Euranasia (page does not exist)">AP of Euranasia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_of_Euranasia" title="User talk:AP of Euranasia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700-10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AP_of_Euranasia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AP of Euranasia (page does not exist)">AP of Euranasia</a>: you cannot; it has been rejected. There is zero evidence that this organisation is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notable">notable</a>, since the draft cites only its own website as a source. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250223101000-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82" data-mw-thread-id="h-12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82-February_23-20250223124300">12:43, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drego82</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-6" title="Edit section: 12:43, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drego82" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-278' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250223132700-Drego82-20250223124300">6 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Drego82&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Drego82 (page does not exist)">Drego82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drego82" title="User talk:Drego82">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drego82" title="Special:Contributions/Drego82">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drego82&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=12%3A43%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Drego82">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Donyae_Crockett" title="Draft:Donyae Crockett">Draft:Donyae Crockett</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Donyae_Crockett&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Donyae_Crockett" title="Draft talk:Donyae Crockett">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Donyae_Crockett&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Donyae_Crockett">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Donyae_Crockett&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ADonyae+Crockett">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi im am trying to get help publishing an article for an artist and also adding pictures i am not able to upload the headshots <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Drego82&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Drego82 (page does not exist)">Drego82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drego82" title="User talk:Drego82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Drego82-20250223124300-12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Images are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. You can worry about images once the draft is accepted. What help specifically are you seeking? <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223132700-Drego82-20250223124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio" data-mw-thread-id="h-12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio-February_23-20250223124900">12:49, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drinfio</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-7" title="Edit section: 12:49, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Drinfio" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-279' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250223132800-Drinfio-20250223124900">6 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Drinfio" title="User:Drinfio">Drinfio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drinfio" title="User talk:Drinfio">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drinfio" title="Special:Contributions/Drinfio">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drinfio&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=12%3A49%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Drinfio">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Zebronics" title="Draft:Zebronics">Draft:Zebronics</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Zebronics&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Zebronics" title="Draft talk:Zebronics">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Zebronics&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Zebronics">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Zebronics&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AZebronics">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Assist me in creating collecting more knowledge on this article .please help it was my first article that was not accepted .anyone interested in helping me can directly edit the article i have already provided a infobox . Please reply me in my talk page if anyone is interested in helping me out.hope some support from the community <a href="/wiki/User:Drinfio" title="User:Drinfio">Drinfio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drinfio" title="User talk:Drinfio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Drinfio-20250223124900-12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>We can't find sources for you- that's your job if you feel that this company merits an article. Please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORG">WP:ORG</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223132800-Drinfio-20250223124900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:731-February_23-20250223131300">13:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-8" title="Edit section: 13:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-280' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250223133300-331dot-20250223133100">6 days ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2 (page does not exist)">2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2" title="Special:Contributions/2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A13%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+2402%3AE280%3A3D7A%3A359%3AE546%3A3C80%3A7319%3A20B2">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)" title="Draft:Yatin Patel (Architect)">Draft:Yatin Patel (Architect)</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)" title="Draft talk:Yatin Patel (Architect)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Yatin_Patel_(Architect)&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AYatin+Patel+%28Architect%29">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> This page is good and he is one of the best architcets we have in india, why his profile is in drafts? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2" title="Special:Contributions/2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2">2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300-13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:731" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300-13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:731"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Remember to log in when posting. We don't have "profiles" here, not a single one. We have articles.</dd> <dd>What is your connection to this man? You took a very professional image of him and he posed for you. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223133000-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Note that interviews do not establish notability, as that is done with significant coverage in independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223133100-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Presumed account of OP soft blocked for username. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223133300-331dot-20250223133100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999-February_23-20250223140300">14:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Scottlinehan1999</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-9" title="Edit section: 14:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Scottlinehan1999" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-281' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250223153500-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300">6 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Scottlinehan1999" title="User:Scottlinehan1999">Scottlinehan1999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottlinehan1999" title="User talk:Scottlinehan1999">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scottlinehan1999" title="Special:Contributions/Scottlinehan1999">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Scottlinehan1999&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A03%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Scottlinehan1999">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically" title="Draft:List of Chelsea F. C players chronologically">Draft:List of Chelsea F. C players chronologically</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:List of Chelsea F. C players chronologically (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:List_of_Chelsea_F._C_players_chronologically&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AList+of+Chelsea+F.+C+players+chronologically">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> How can i improve article? <a href="/wiki/User:Scottlinehan1999" title="User:Scottlinehan1999">Scottlinehan1999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottlinehan1999" title="User talk:Scottlinehan1999">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300-14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Rejected means that it will not be considered further, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NLIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NLIST">WP:NLIST</a> as advised by the reviewer. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223153500-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333" data-mw-thread-id="h-18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333-February_23-20250223181300">18:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Get out 333</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-10" title="Edit section: 18:13, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Get out 333" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-282' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jéské_Couriano-20250223181800-Get_out_333-20250223181300">5 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Get_out_333" title="User:Get out 333">Get out 333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Get_out_333" title="User talk:Get out 333">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Get_out_333" title="Special:Contributions/Get out 333">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Get_out_333&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=18%3A13%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Get+out+333">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Mâyn Pagy (page does not exist)">Draft:Mâyn Pagy</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Mâyn Pagy (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:M%C3%A2yn_Pagy&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AM%C3%A2yn+Pagy">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Can you explain why you brought something like that to my page? If you don't explain it I won't understand and I will delete it. What does that mean though? I joined Wikipedia 4 hours ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Get_out_333" title="User:Get out 333">Get out 333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Get_out_333" title="User talk:Get out 333">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Get_out_333-20250223181300-18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Get_out_333" title="User:Get out 333">Get out 333</a>: This looks like an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G2">editing test</a>, not a serious draft. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250223181800-Get_out_333-20250223181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C" data-mw-thread-id="h-18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90-February_23-20250223184700">18:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-11" title="Edit section: 18:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-283' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250223200400-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700">5 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C (page does not exist)">2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C" title="Special:Contributions/2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=18%3A47%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+2806%3A2F0%3A8100%3A18C3%3AB8E8%3AFD6%3A7F90%3A557C">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari" title="Draft:Juan Ruiz Naupari">Draft:Juan Ruiz Naupari</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari" title="Draft talk:Juan Ruiz Naupari">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Juan_Ruiz_Naupari&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AJuan+Ruiz+Naupari">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> It mentioned the article is promotional. But I’m not sure where that is picked up from the article as I don’t see it being promotional. A specific example explained or two should be really helpful for me to understand how to make the article better align with Wikipedia guidelines. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C" title="Special:Contributions/2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C">2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700-18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700-18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>You have resubmitted the draft, the reviewer will leave you feedback. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250223194000-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello IP user. It's promotional because it is very obviously telling us what Naupairi and his associates want us to know about him: that is the essence of promotion. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a>. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250223200400-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505-February_23-20250223220300">22:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Viv2505</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-12" title="Edit section: 22:03, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Viv2505" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-284' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Theroadislong-20250223220500-Viv2505-20250223220300">5 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viv2505&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viv2505 (page does not exist)">Viv2505</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viv2505" title="User talk:Viv2505">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Viv2505" title="Special:Contributions/Viv2505">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Viv2505&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A03%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Viv2505">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Viktor Ivanov Vilinsky (page does not exist)">Draft:Viktor Ivanov Vilinsky</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Viktor Ivanov Vilinsky (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Viktor_Ivanov_Vilinsky&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AViktor+Ivanov+Vilinsky">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I don't understand <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viv2505&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viv2505 (page does not exist)">Viv2505</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viv2505" title="User talk:Viv2505">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Viv2505-20250223220300-22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd><dl><dd>You created a hoax article, it was rejected and tagged for speedy deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250223220500-Viv2505-20250223220300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995-February_23-20250223223200">22:32, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Las-Giddy 1995</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-13" title="Edit section: 22:32, 23 February 2025 review of submission by Las-Giddy 1995" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-285' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235200-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200">5 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Las-Giddy_1995&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Las-Giddy 1995 (page does not exist)">Las-Giddy 1995</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Las-Giddy_1995" title="User talk:Las-Giddy 1995">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Las-Giddy_1995" title="Special:Contributions/Las-Giddy 1995">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Las-Giddy_1995&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A32%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Las-Giddy+1995">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Society for Equity Neuroscience (page does not exist)">Draft:Society for Equity Neuroscience</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Society for Equity Neuroscience (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Society_for_Equity_Neuroscience&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ASociety+for+Equity+Neuroscience">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Would please welcome your guidance on what else needs to be done to move this draft (Draft: Society for Equity Neuroscience) forward as an article? Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Las-Giddy_1995&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Las-Giddy 1995 (page does not exist)">Las-Giddy 1995</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Las-Giddy_1995" title="User talk:Las-Giddy 1995">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200-22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Entire article seems like some promotion; write it in a neutral tone to comply with wikipedia guidelines <a href="/wiki/User:Thehistorianisaac" title="User:Thehistorianisaac">Thehistorianisaac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thehistorianisaac" title="User talk:Thehistorianisaac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235200-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235-February_23-20250223224700">22:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2.66.51.235</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23&action=edit&section=T-14" title="Edit section: 22:47, 23 February 2025 review of submission by 2.66.51.235" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-286' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Cullen328-20250224093500-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235000">5 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2.66.51.235&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2.66.51.235 (page does not exist)">2.66.51.235</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2.66.51.235" title="User talk:2.66.51.235">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.66.51.235" title="Special:Contributions/2.66.51.235">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.66.51.235&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A47%2C+23+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+2.66.51.235">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Tammer_Bany" title="Draft:Tammer Bany">Draft:Tammer Bany</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Tammer_Bany&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Tammer_Bany" title="Draft talk:Tammer Bany">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Tammer_Bany&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Tammer_Bany">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Tammer_Bany&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ATammer+Bany">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Can someone add the references for this article. The bloke was signed for 3,000,000 euros. He's obviously worth an article. <pre><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.66.51.235" title="Special:Contributions/2.66.51.235">2.66.51.235</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2.66.51.235" title="User talk:2.66.51.235">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-2.66.51.235-20250223224700-22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>How much euros a dude was signed for DOES NOT mean they meet notability standards of wikipedia. You need to show evidence of notability(which means again third party sources). <a href="/wiki/User:Thehistorianisaac" title="User:Thehistorianisaac">Thehistorianisaac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thehistorianisaac" title="User talk:Thehistorianisaac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235000-2.66.51.235-20250223224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 23 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Plus, the draft says he signed for an undisclosed fee. <a href="/wiki/User:Cullen328" title="User:Cullen328">Cullen328</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cullen328" title="User talk:Cullen328">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Cullen328-20250224093500-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><h1 id="February_24" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_24-20250224001700">February 24</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: February 24" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings" data-mw-thread-id="h-00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings-February_24-20250224001700">00:17, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Thetradings</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: 00:17, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Thetradings" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-287' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-CNMall41-20250224005800-Thetradings-20250224001700">5 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thetradings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thetradings (page does not exist)">Thetradings</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thetradings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Thetradings (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thetradings" title="Special:Contributions/Thetradings">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thetradings&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=00%3A17%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Thetradings">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Gloria_Sabra" title="Draft:Gloria Sabra">Draft:Gloria Sabra</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gloria_Sabra&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Gloria_Sabra" title="Draft talk:Gloria Sabra">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gloria_Sabra&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Gloria_Sabra">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gloria_Sabra&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AGloria+Sabra">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, please consider publishing the page for Gloria Sabra, as she is a musician. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thetradings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thetradings (page does not exist)">Thetradings</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thetradings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Thetradings (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Thetradings-20250224001700-00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thetradings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thetradings (page does not exist)">Thetradings</a>:, Topic is not notable. Resubmitting it again and again without improving the draft is why it was ultimately rejected. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250224005800-Thetradings-20250224001700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc" data-mw-thread-id="h-00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc-February_24-20250224003300">00:33, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Mateo Inc</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: 00:33, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Mateo Inc" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-288' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250224110000-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300">5 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Mateo_Inc" title="User:Mateo Inc">Mateo Inc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mateo_Inc" title="User talk:Mateo Inc">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mateo_Inc" title="Special:Contributions/Mateo Inc">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mateo_Inc&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=00%3A33%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Mateo+Inc">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Unicentro_Bogota" title="Draft:Unicentro Bogota">Draft:Unicentro Bogota</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Unicentro_Bogota&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Unicentro_Bogota" title="Draft talk:Unicentro Bogota">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Unicentro_Bogota&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Unicentro_Bogota">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Unicentro_Bogota&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AUnicentro+Bogota">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Could you add more references to this article? <a href="/wiki/User:Mateo_Inc" title="User:Mateo Inc">Mateo Inc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mateo_Inc" title="User talk:Mateo Inc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300-00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>This is not the place to ask for others to help you with your draft - it's for asking questions. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFB">WP:REFB</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CS">WP:CS</a> for help with adding references. I don't speak Spanish, but based on a preliminary Google search, there seems to be various news articles on the subject of your article. Don't worry about using non-English sources. Good luck! <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">it's lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250224011300-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/wiki/User:Mateo_Inc" title="User:Mateo Inc">Mateo Inc</a>. In case it's not clear, when @<a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">HKLionel</a> said "Don't worry about using non-English sources" they meant "it's OK to use non-English sources". (This may be clear to you, but I suspect it is ambiguous for some people whose first language is not English). <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250224110000-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul" data-mw-thread-id="h-07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul-February_24-20250224071300">07:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Aami.jiarul</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: 07:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Aami.jiarul" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-289' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250224100200-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700">5 days ago</a>9 comments5 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aami.jiarul" title="User talk:Aami.jiarul">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aami.jiarul" title="Special:Contributions/Aami.jiarul">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=07%3A13%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Aami.jiarul">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Monglapota_High_School" title="Draft:Monglapota High School">Draft:Monglapota High School</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Monglapota_High_School&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Monglapota_High_School" title="Draft talk:Monglapota High School">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Monglapota_High_School&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Monglapota_High_School">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Monglapota_High_School&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMonglapota+High+School">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Subject: Request for Reconsideration of Draft: Monglapota High School Dear Wikipedia Review Team, I am writing to formally request a reconsideration of my submitted article *"Draft:Monglapota High School."* Despite multiple revisions and the inclusion of all possible reliable sources, the article continues to be declined. Monglapota High School is a government-sponsored institution, established in 1940, and plays a significant role in Paschim Medinipur, West Bengal, India. It is officially recognized by the West Bengal Board of Secondary Education (WBBSE) and West Bengal Council of Higher Secondary Education (WBCHSE). I have carefully reviewed Wikipedia’s notability guidelines (WP:NSCHOOL) and ensured that the article meets the necessary requirements. The references provided include: -Official government databases (UDISE+, Banglar Shiksha) - Independent school directories** (Schools.org.in, StackSchools) - West Bengal State Council of Technical & Vocational Education -Publicly accessible school records and report cards These sources are reliable, independent, and verifiable. The article is not promotional and presents neutral, factual information. I have also ensured proper formatting, citations, and compliance with Wikipedia’s content policies. I kindly request a thorough re-evaluation of the article. If any specific improvements are needed, I would greatly appreciate detailed feedback to make the necessary revisions. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response. Best regards, Aami.jiarul <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aami.jiarul" title="User talk:Aami.jiarul">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Aami.jiarul-20250224071300-07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a>: Requests written via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LLM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LLM">chatbot</a> will not be entertained. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224071400-Aami.jiarul-20250224071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Could you please suggest something for my draft? I was writing a wikipedia page on my high school but it is continuously getting rejected despite I gave it a lot of reliable sources please check it out <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aami.jiarul" title="User talk:Aami.jiarul">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224071400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a>: Your sources are school profiles and the school's social media. At best, these only show that the school exists - not that it is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notable as Wikipedia defines the term</a>. (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES">We don't accept the position that schools are inherently notable by existing.</a>) For that, we're looking for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">news articles or books that cover the school at length</a>. If those don't exist (online or off) we can't have an article until they do. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224072100-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>But I've so many schools like this nearby which have individual wikipedia pages while having notability as much this school has! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aami.jiarul" title="User talk:Aami.jiarul">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Then you need to find <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IS">independent</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">verifiable</a> sources and put them in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">it's lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250224073000-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> In the past, schools were deemed inherently notable- meriting an article just for existing- but this was changed a few years ago, so that schools are now treated like any other organization, needing to meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORG">WP:ORG</a> This means that there are many inappropriate articles that we still need to deal with but haven't gotten to yet, because this is a volunteer project. These other inappropriate articles cannot justify adding more inapproprate articles, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OSE">other stuff exists</a>; as well as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES">WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES</a>.</dd> <dd>Note that to merit an article, there needs to be significant coverage of the school by independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. This usually means that a school needs to be in a historic structure, or have many independent sources that discuss the school at length beyond its routine activities. Note that even a school shooting at a school doesn't merit the school itself an article(<a href="/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School" class="mw-redirect" title="Sandy Hook Elementary School">Sandy Hook Elementary School</a>, the site of a mass shooting, redirects to the school district while a separate article is about the shooting itself). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250224084400-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>If you would like to help us, please identify these other articles you have seen so we can take action. We need the help, and we are only as good as the people who choose to help. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250224084500-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aami.jiarul&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aami.jiarul (page does not exist)">Aami.jiarul</a> Even though some high schools(<a href="/wiki/King_George_V_School,_Hong_Kong" title="King George V School, Hong Kong">including mine</a>) have articles, you need to find more reliable independent sources. Are there any famous alumni from your school or any important events(e.g. disasters, shootings etc) that happened? That would help out with notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Thehistorianisaac" title="User:Thehistorianisaac">Thehistorianisaac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thehistorianisaac" title="User talk:Thehistorianisaac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250224100200-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad" data-mw-thread-id="h-12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad-February_24-20250224120600">12:06, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Kalingad</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: 12:06, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Kalingad" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-290' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kalingad-20250224192100-CoffeeCrumbs-20250224163500">4 days ago</a>6 comments4 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kalingad" title="User talk:Kalingad">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kalingad" title="Special:Contributions/Kalingad">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kalingad&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=12%3A06%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Kalingad">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino" title="Draft:François Castellino">Draft:François Castellino</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino" title="Draft talk:François Castellino">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Fran%C3%A7ois_Castellino&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AFran%C3%A7ois+Castellino">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> So I am sure that I made the edit long back and that time the tone was not suited to that of a wikipedia but I have made the necessary changes now. This person is prominent figure in the Indian sphere, he has voiced for ads (like for BMW and many other companies), worked on regional dubs of Disney films, and even sung in movies. Despite their remarkable work. The page is not meant for branding but for documenting artists in India. A lot of mentions are buried in old radio broadcasts, magazines, and other difficult-to-access sources. To make the page, I’ve used references from interviews and film credits (including national awards), but I want to ensure that it complies with Wikipedia’s guidelines for notability and verifiability. I’ve already added over 15-20 references, including the award (with name and photo listed on Wikipedia). But I’m unsure about the process of getting this page approved or if there’s anything I should be cautious about. I plan on creating more pages for voice actors who have been active for 15-20 years. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kalingad" title="User talk:Kalingad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kalingad-20250224120600-12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a> You have resubmitted the draft, the reviewer will leave you feedback. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250224120800-Kalingad-20250224120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a>. A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what independent reliable sources say about a subject, and very little else. Most of your sources, and all the sources by which you intend to establish that he meets Wikipedia's criteria for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, should meet the triple criteria of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">WP:42</a>: reliability, independence, and significant coverage. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and should almost never be cited. Interviews, and anything written, published, or commissioned, by him, his friends and associates, his employers, are not independent, and so cannot contribute to notability, and can only be cited for limited purposes (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPS">WP:SPS</a>). Listings are nearly useless - yes, they confirm a particular role, but if you cannot find an independent source that discusses that role, why should it appear in an encyclopaedia article? <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250224143300-Kalingad-20250224120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thank you for your feedback I understand the importance of using independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage. My intention is to document François Castellino's contributions objectively, ensuring that the article aligns with Wikipedia’s notability guidelines.</dd> <dd>I acknowledge that interviews and primary sources have limitations regarding notability, and I will ensure they are used only for supplementary details. However, I have also referenced independent sources, including his National Award recognition, coverage of his work in advertisements, film credits, and industry publications. These sources substantiate his notability in the voice acting and dubbing industry, particularly in India, where such contributions are often underdocumented.</dd> <dd>Additionally, I’d like to clarify that the listings are not from employers, friends, or associates, but rather from independent sources, including government sources and international brands. For example, Disney’s operations in India work through Hotstar, where official credits appear. These listings serve as verifiable records rather than promotional material.</dd> <dd>I will go through the references again and make necessary improvements, ensuring they meet WP:42 criteria (reliability, independence, and significant coverage). If there are any specific sources that you believe do not meet the guidelines, I would appreciate guidance on replacing them with better alternatives.</dd> <dd>Additionally, since voice actors and dubbing artists are often underrepresented on Wikipedia due to the lack of easily accessible mainstream coverage, I would like to understand how best to approach documenting their contributions while maintaining Wikipedia’s standards. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kalingad" title="User talk:Kalingad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kalingad-20250224151600-ColinFine-20250224143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Responses written by AI are rarely helpful, and this case is no exception. As is typical, AI doesn't really understand what reliable sources means in the Wikipedia context; the very block of text you copy and paste from AI clearly doesn't know the different between <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">WP:PRIMARY</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SECONDARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SECONDARY">WP:SECONDARY</a> and "international brand" is not one of the characteristics of a good source, in and of itself, unless the international brand is something that has a reputation for providing quality coverage with a robust editorial process.</dd> <dd>In fact, much of the draft appears to be written by AI. It's full of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PEACOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PEACOCK">WP:PEACOCK</a> terms that AIs love to cram into biographies. It's full of flowery, unencylopedic sentences like these experiences expanded his skill set and enabled him to explore different aspects of voice artistry, from musical performances to dramatic dubbing and He also became a preferred choice for character voicing, allowing him to explore a wide array of roles, from authoritative narration to quirky animated characters.</dd> <dd>I think it's actually fairly likely that an article about this person has a decent chance to make a case for notability, but to be blunt, the article is a mess in its current state, and I'm skeptical that a few suggestions are enough to salvage it. It really need to be blown up and rewritten less ambitiously, but with more focus towards actually being a Wikipedia article, rather than an AI-enhanced resume. Go through your sources, and pick out only the ones that are independent of Castellino, reliable, and provide significant coverage of Castellino. That means no YouTube videos, no simple presence on a list, no articles that only mention him in passing. And then write based only on those sources. Other things can be added later once notability is properly established. Less is frequently more. <a href="/wiki/User:CoffeeCrumbs" title="User:CoffeeCrumbs">CoffeeCrumbs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CoffeeCrumbs" title="User talk:CoffeeCrumbs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CoffeeCrumbs-20250224163500-Kalingad-20250224151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I use the AI for making the language decently better. I wrote a lot of things and used it for proofreading and enhancing.. Even my response was written like that. In hopes that it reads out better. I will try to redo it <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kalingad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kalingad (page does not exist)">Kalingad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kalingad" title="User talk:Kalingad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kalingad-20250224192100-CoffeeCrumbs-20250224163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip-February_24-20250224132500">13:25, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Fibip</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: 13:25, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Fibip" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-291' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Cl3phact0-20250224155200-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500">5 days ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fibip&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fibip (page does not exist)">Fibip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fibip" title="User talk:Fibip">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fibip" title="Special:Contributions/Fibip">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibip&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A25%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Fibip">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna" title="Draft:Mikael Björnstjerna">Draft:Mikael Björnstjerna</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Mikael Björnstjerna (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMikael+Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi Why was this rejected? //Filip <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fibip&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fibip (page does not exist)">Fibip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fibip" title="User talk:Fibip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Fibip-20250224132500-13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fibip&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fibip (page does not exist)">Fibip</a>: it was declined (not 'rejected', which would mean the end of the road) because it is completely unreferenced. Where does the information come from, and how do we know it's true? -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500-Fibip-20250224132500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Mikael Björnstjerna (page does not exist)">Mikael Björnstjerna</a> [<a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikael_Bj%C3%B6rnstjerna" class="extiw" title="sv:Mikael Björnstjerna">sv</a>] is covered in Swedish Wikipedia, Wikidata (<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q77285993" class="extiw" title="d:Q77285993">d:Q77285993</a>), and has at least <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.moma.org/collection/works/3187">one design</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Museum_of_Modern_Art" title="Museum of Modern Art">MoMA</a> collection. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch to get a short article over the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NBIO">WP:NBIO</a> line. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Cl3phact0" title="User:Cl3phact0">Cl3phact0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cl3phact0" title="User talk:Cl3phact0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Cl3phact0-20250224154200-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>PS: If you're interested, there's another Swedish designer who could use some attention: <a href="/wiki/Draft:Tom_Ahlstr%C3%B6m" title="Draft:Tom Ahlström">Draft:Tom Ahlström</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Tom_Ahlstr%C3%B6m&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tom Ahlström (page does not exist)">Tom Ahlström</a> [<a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ahlstr%C3%B6m" class="extiw" title="sv:Tom Ahlström">sv</a>], <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5544310" class="extiw" title="d:Q5544310">d:Q5544310</a>). Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Cl3phact0" title="User:Cl3phact0">Cl3phact0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cl3phact0" title="User talk:Cl3phact0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Cl3phact0-20250224155200-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four" data-mw-thread-id="h-15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four-February_24-20250224151900">15:19, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 27four</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: 15:19, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 27four" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-292' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250224152200-27four-20250224151900">5 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:27four&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:27four (page does not exist)">27four</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:27four" title="User talk:27four">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/27four" title="Special:Contributions/27four">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:27four&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=15%3A19%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+27four">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:27four/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:27four/sandbox (page does not exist)">User:27four/sandbox</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:27four/sandbox&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:27four/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:27four/sandbox (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:27four/sandbox&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:27four/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:27four/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3A27four%2Fsandbox">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My article was rejected. I would like assistance in editing it so that it gets approved. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:27four&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:27four (page does not exist)">27four</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:27four" title="User talk:27four">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-27four-20250224151900-15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Blocked for username and promotion. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250224152200-27four-20250224151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163-February_24-20250224161300">16:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 220.233.199.163</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: 16:13, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 220.233.199.163" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-293' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250224161900-220.233.199.163-20250224161300">5 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:220.233.199.163&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:220.233.199.163 (page does not exist)">220.233.199.163</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.233.199.163" title="User talk:220.233.199.163">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.233.199.163" title="Special:Contributions/220.233.199.163">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:220.233.199.163&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A13%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+220.233.199.163">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:No_Bull" title="Draft:No Bull">Draft:No Bull</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:No_Bull&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:No_Bull&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:No Bull (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:No_Bull&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:No_Bull">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:No_Bull&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ANo+Bull">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My article was rejected <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.233.199.163" title="Special:Contributions/220.233.199.163">220.233.199.163</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.233.199.163" title="User talk:220.233.199.163">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-220.233.199.163-20250224161300-16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>That's not a question.</dd> <dd>The draft (not yet article) was declined (not rejected), because there is no evidence that the subject is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notable">notable</a>, since the draft is entirely unreferenced. Where does all the information come from? (No need to tell me here, you tell the reader by citing your sources, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFB">WP:REFB</a> for advice.) -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250224161700-220.233.199.163-20250224161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Remember to log in when posting. The good news is that it was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.</dd> <dd>The draft is completely unsourced and shows no indication of how the band meets our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAND">special definition of a notable band</a>; you list "interview with James van Hest" as a source; that is unacceptable. Information must be sourced to independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> that can be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">verified</a> Furthermore, an account(perhaps yours) named "James van Hest" is the author. If you are writing about your own band, that must be disclosed, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250224161900-220.233.199.163-20250224161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein-February_24-20250224165700">16:57, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Ismatzein</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: 16:57, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Ismatzein" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-294' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Theroadislong-20250224172000-Jéské_Couriano-20250224170000">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ismatzein (page does not exist)">Ismatzein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ismatzein" title="User talk:Ismatzein">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ismatzein" title="Special:Contributions/Ismatzein">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ismatzein&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A57%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Ismatzein">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Ismatzein (page does not exist)">Draft:Ismatzein</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ismatzein&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Ismatzein (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ismatzein&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Ismatzein">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ismatzein&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AIsmatzein">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Ismatzein is An Artist <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ismatzein (page does not exist)">Ismatzein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ismatzein" title="User talk:Ismatzein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Ismatzein-20250224165700-16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ismatzein (page does not exist)">Ismatzein</a>: This draft is practically a blank Article Wizard template, and is all but content-free. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224170000-Ismatzein-20250224165700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>and recreating it here <a href="/w/index.php?title=Ismatzein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ismatzein (page does not exist)">Ismatzein</a> is disruptive and pointless. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250224172000-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324-February_24-20250224191600">19:16, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Leo2324</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: 19:16, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Leo2324" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-295' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Leo2324-20250225165200-ColinFine-20250224212200">4 days ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Leo2324" title="User:Leo2324">Leo2324</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leo2324" title="User talk:Leo2324">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Leo2324" title="Special:Contributions/Leo2324">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Leo2324&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A16%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Leo2324">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Leo2324/sandbox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Leo2324/sandbox">User:Leo2324/sandbox</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Leo2324/sandbox&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leo2324/sandbox" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Leo2324/sandbox">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Leo2324/sandbox&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Leo2324/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Leo2324/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ALeo2324%2Fsandbox">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> This is my first time creating an Wikipedia page of an Indian director Desingh Periyasamy. How do i make it reliable and readable. <a href="/wiki/User:Leo2324" title="User:Leo2324">Leo2324</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leo2324" title="User talk:Leo2324">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Leo2324-20250224191600-19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>For starters wikimylinks is NOT a reliable source. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250224200700-Leo2324-20250224191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/wiki/User:Leo2324" title="User:Leo2324">Leo2324</a>. The steps are easy to list, though not necessarily easy to perform.</dd> <dd>1. Find several sources which meet all the criteria in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">WP:42</a>: they are published by reputable publishers, are not written, published, or commissioned by the subject or any associates of the subject; and they each contain at least a few paragraphs about the subject specifically.</dd> <dd>2. If you can't find at least three such sources, give up. The subject probably does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>.</dd> <dd>3. Forget anything you may know about the subject, and write a summary of what those sources say about him.</dd> <dd>That should be enough to get your draft accepted. After that you can add images, a small amount of uncontroversial factual information cited to non-independent sources, selected list of works etc. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250224212200-Leo2324-20250224191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks for the Message. <a href="/wiki/User:Leo2324" title="User:Leo2324">Leo2324</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leo2324" title="User talk:Leo2324">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Leo2324-20250225165200-ColinFine-20250224212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52-February_24-20250224195900">19:59, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 158.93.6.52</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: 19:59, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 158.93.6.52" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-296' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250224201400-158.93.6.52-20250224195900">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:158.93.6.52&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:158.93.6.52 (page does not exist)">158.93.6.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:158.93.6.52" title="User talk:158.93.6.52">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/158.93.6.52" title="Special:Contributions/158.93.6.52">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:158.93.6.52&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A59%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+158.93.6.52">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:U.S. Route 78 in Tennessee">Draft:U.S. Route 78 in Tennessee</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:U.S. Route 78 in Tennessee">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:U.S._Route_78_in_Tennessee&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AU.S.+Route+78+in+Tennessee">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> No one is approving the draft. This is the only US route being in the draft, so why is it taking so long? Many wiki users like @Imzadi1979 are doing nothing to the draft even admitting they will not approve the draft anytime soon. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/158.93.6.52" title="Special:Contributions/158.93.6.52">158.93.6.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:158.93.6.52" title="User talk:158.93.6.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-158.93.6.52-20250224195900-19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>It was only submitted for review a couple of days ago. As the yellow box on the draft page says, it can take several weeks. There is no deadline! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250224201100-158.93.6.52-20250224195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Huh, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">"why is it taking so long"</q>? This draft was submitted yesterday. Did you see the note on top of it saying "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,379 pending submissions waiting for review." -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250224201400-158.93.6.52-20250224195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567" data-mw-thread-id="h-20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567-February_24-20250224201400">20:14, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Userpy4567</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: 20:14, 24 February 2025 review of submission by Userpy4567" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-297' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Mcmatter-20250224202700-Userpy4567-20250224201400">4 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Userpy4567&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Userpy4567 (page does not exist)">Userpy4567</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Userpy4567" title="User talk:Userpy4567">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Userpy4567" title="Special:Contributions/Userpy4567">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Userpy4567&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=20%3A14%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Userpy4567">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Julian_Gualtieri" title="Draft:Julian Gualtieri">Draft:Julian Gualtieri</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Julian_Gualtieri&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Julian_Gualtieri" title="Draft talk:Julian Gualtieri">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Julian_Gualtieri&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Julian_Gualtieri">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Julian_Gualtieri&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AJulian+Gualtieri">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Request for reconsideration: Notability Hello, Thank you for reviewing the draft. I would like to request reconsideration regarding the notability of Julian Gualtieri. The subject already has a Wikipedia article in Italian, focusing on his achievements as a professional basketball player: <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Gualtieri">Italian Wikipedia Article</a>. This demonstrates his established notability within the sports field. Additionally, Mr. Gualtieri has successfully transitioned into the financial industry, where he has received notable recognition. Most recently, he was named a finalist for the “Best Rising Wealth Manager in the United States” by Citywire, a respected financial publication. His professional achievements at Morgan Stanley, along with verification from FINRA and the SEC, further support his public prominence. I believe that the combination of his sports career and recognized accomplishments in finance meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for biographies of living persons. If there are additional improvements needed, I would appreciate any guidance to help align the article with Wikipedia’s standards. Thank you for your time and consideration. Best regards, <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Userpy4567&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Userpy4567 (page does not exist)">Userpy4567</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Userpy4567" title="User talk:Userpy4567">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Userpy4567-20250224201400-20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Userpy4567&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Userpy4567 (page does not exist)">Userpy4567</a>, each project has its own policies and guidelines about notability, English is one of the most stringent. We do not care what any other language project has done. Looking at his draft three are zero sources given which meet all 3 of the criteria we look for, which are reliable, independent, and significant. If there are not any sources that meet all those criteria then there won't be an article about him here on the English Wikipedia. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANYBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANYBIO">WP:ANYBIO</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">WP:42</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBEG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBEG">WP:REFBEG</a>. The top 10 style of awards are not considered significant or well-known here, for this criteria we are often looking at awards that have their own article to demonstrate their significance. <a href="/wiki/User:Mcmatter" title="User:Mcmatter">McMatter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mcmatter" title="User talk:Mcmatter">talk</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mcmatter" title="Special:Contributions/Mcmatter">contrib</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mcmatter-20250224202700-Userpy4567-20250224201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187" data-mw-thread-id="h-20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187-February_24-20250224202000">20:20, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 50.86.96.187</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: 20:20, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 50.86.96.187" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-298' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224211200-50.86.96.187-20250224202000">4 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:50.86.96.187&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:50.86.96.187 (page does not exist)">50.86.96.187</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.86.96.187" title="User talk:50.86.96.187">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.86.96.187" title="Special:Contributions/50.86.96.187">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:50.86.96.187&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=20%3A20%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+50.86.96.187">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Where_am_i&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Where am i (page does not exist)">Draft:Where am i</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Where_am_i&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Where_am_i&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Where am i (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Where_am_i&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Where_am_i">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Where_am_i&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AWhere+am+i">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> im tr <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.86.96.187" title="Special:Contributions/50.86.96.187">50.86.96.187</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.86.96.187" title="User talk:50.86.96.187">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-50.86.96.187-20250224202000-20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Quit creating joke pages. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224211200-50.86.96.187-20250224202000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78" data-mw-thread-id="h-20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78-February_24-20250224205500">20:55, 24 February 2025 review of submission by TRusso78</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: 20:55, 24 February 2025 review of submission by TRusso78" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-299' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250301162800-TRusso78-20250301160800">40 minutes ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TRusso78&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TRusso78 (page does not exist)">TRusso78</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TRusso78" title="User talk:TRusso78">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TRusso78" title="Special:Contributions/TRusso78">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TRusso78&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=20%3A55%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+TRusso78">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Elena_Perroni" title="Draft:Elena Perroni">Draft:Elena Perroni</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Elena_Perroni&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Elena_Perroni" title="Draft talk:Elena Perroni">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Elena_Perroni&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Elena_Perroni">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Elena_Perroni&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AElena+Perroni">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, I received a message saying that “The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements.” I have not in any way shape or form received compensation of any kind in submitting this page. Any feedback would be appreciated. Many thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TRusso78&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TRusso78 (page does not exist)">TRusso78</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TRusso78" title="User talk:TRusso78">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-TRusso78-20250224205500-20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TRusso78&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TRusso78 (page does not exist)">TRusso78</a>: The article is basically claiming <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INHERIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INHERIT">she's notable by association with other entities</a>. We do not accept such claims, and they almost always come across as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam" title="Wikipedia:Spam">promotional</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224211500-TRusso78-20250224205500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thank you kindly, for your response.</dd> <dd>I based the structure of the article on other sopranos’ Wikipedia pages - one Australian(as is Elena) <a href="/wiki/Siobhan_Stagg" title="Siobhan Stagg">Siobhan Stagg</a> and one graduate of Curtis Institute (same as Elena) <a href="/wiki/Emily_Pogorelc" title="Emily Pogorelc">Emily Pogorelc</a></dd> <dd>To me they read very similar in nature. Could you please guide me as to where the discrepancies lie and where I can improve the probability of having the page published?</dd> <dd>Kind regards. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TRusso78&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TRusso78 (page does not exist)">TRusso78</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TRusso78" title="User talk:TRusso78">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-TRusso78-20250301160800-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250224211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Though understandable, it is usually a poor idea to use any random article as a model or example, as those too could be inappropriate and just not yet addressed by a volunteer. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OSE">other stuff exists</a>. It seems to me that you have identified two other articles which do not meet current standards(if they ever did). Emily Pogorelc's article is probably the better of the two as it has more detail, but it has the same ultimate problems.</dd> <dd>If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those that are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE">classified as good articles</a>, which have been checked by the community. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301162700-TRusso78-20250301160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>You say you haven't received compensation, but do you have a connection with her? <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301162800-TRusso78-20250301160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C-February_24-20250224224000">22:40, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: 22:40, 24 February 2025 review of submission by 2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-300' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250224225500-ColinFine-20250224225200">4 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E (page does not exist)">2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" title="User talk:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A40%2C+24+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+2600%3A1702%3A5730%3A22A0%3A4D27%3A7A21%3A5C2F%3A300E">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Contents hide (Top) Location History Terminals Airlines and destinations Statistics Accidents and incidents Security incidents Ground transport See also References External links Birmingham (page does not exist)">Draft:Contents hide (Top) Location History Terminals Airlines and destinations Statistics Accidents and incidents Security incidents Ground transport See also References External links Birmingham</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Contents hide (Top) Location History Terminals Airlines and destinations Statistics Accidents and incidents Security incidents Ground transport See also References External links Birmingham (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Contents_hide_(Top)_Location_History_Terminals_Airlines_and_destinations_Statistics_Accidents_and_incidents_Security_incidents_Ground_transport_See_also_References_External_links_Birmingham&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AContents+hide+%28Top%29+Location+History+Terminals+Airlines+and+destinations+Statistics+Accidents+and+incidents+Security+incidents+Ground+transport+See+also+References+External+links+Birmingham">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Why does this exist? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E">2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E" title="User talk:2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000-22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000-22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C"><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Because you created it. Along with other pieces of nonsense: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:*anymore&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:*anymore (page does not exist)">Draft:*anymore</a>, and nonsense you added to other garbage drafts. Please stop. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250224225200-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I've nominated both of those for speedy deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250224225500-ColinFine-20250224225200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><h1 id="February_25" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_25-20250225055200">February 25</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: February 25" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123" data-mw-thread-id="h-05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123-February_25-20250225055200">05:52, 25 February 2025 review of submission by SantiagoM123</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: 05:52, 25 February 2025 review of submission by SantiagoM123" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-301' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250225103000-SantiagoM123-20250225055200">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SantiagoM123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SantiagoM123 (page does not exist)">SantiagoM123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SantiagoM123" title="User talk:SantiagoM123">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SantiagoM123" title="Special:Contributions/SantiagoM123">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SantiagoM123&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=05%3A52%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+SantiagoM123">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Ricardo_N._Martinez" title="Draft:Ricardo N. Martinez">Draft:Ricardo N. Martinez</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ricardo_N._Martinez&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Ricardo_N._Martinez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Ricardo N. Martinez (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ricardo_N._Martinez&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Ricardo_N._Martinez">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ricardo_N._Martinez&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ARicardo+N.+Martinez">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Subject: Clarification Regarding the Article Submission on Ricardo Néstor Martínez Dear Wikipedia Editors, I recently submitted an article about Ricardo Néstor Martínez, a paleontologist, but it was not accepted, possibly due to concerns about it being AI-generated or lacking reliable sources. I want to clarify that I personally wrote the article with the assistance of Dr. Martínez himself, as he is my father. My intention is to provide accurate and well-sourced information about his contributions to paleontology. I understand the importance of citing reliable sources and would appreciate any guidance on how to improve the article to meet Wikipedia’s standards. If there are specific areas that need better referencing or modifications, I am more than willing to make the necessary changes. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your feedback. Best regards, <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SantiagoM123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SantiagoM123 (page does not exist)">SantiagoM123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SantiagoM123" title="User talk:SantiagoM123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-SantiagoM123-20250225055200-05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SantiagoM123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SantiagoM123 (page does not exist)">SantiagoM123</a>: well, you sure have a knack for writing in a way that strongly resembles AI...</dd> <dd>The bigger problem, by far, is that the draft is completely unreferenced. I get that you 'know' all this stuff, given your family relationship, but not to put too fine a point on it, we're not particularly interested in what you know, or what you or your father want to tell the world about him; we're almost exclusively interested in what independent and reliable sources have previously published about him. Your job is to summarise what they've said, and cite each source against the information it has provided so that it can be verified.</dd> <dd>You must also disclose your conflict of interest (COI); I will post a message on your talk page with instructions. And you should show <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOBIO">WP:AUTOBIO</a> to your father. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250225064900-SantiagoM123-20250225055200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:49, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:You_are_not_a_reliable_source" title="Wikipedia:You are not a reliable source">Just that you are his son or he helped you write it does not mean you are automatically reliable</a>. Heck we don't even know if you are his son, and even so that does not excuse the fact that you could just make up stuff(<a href="/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan#Visions_and_iconoclasm" title="Hong Xiuquan">I could always claim my dad is god</a>).</dd> <dd>The important thing is, if everything in the draft is true, there should be enough third party sources for you to use considering how famous dinosaurs like the Eoraptor is. <a href="/wiki/User:Thehistorianisaac" title="User:Thehistorianisaac">Thehistorianisaac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thehistorianisaac" title="User talk:Thehistorianisaac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Thehistorianisaac-20250225103000-SantiagoM123-20250225055200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025-February_25-20250225123300">12:33, 25 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: 12:33, 25 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-302' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-MH-wiki2025-20250225132900-DoubleGrazing-20250225125900">4 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MH-wiki2025" title="User talk:MH-wiki2025">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MH-wiki2025" title="Special:Contributions/MH-wiki2025">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MH-wiki2025&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=12%3A33%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+MH-wiki2025">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Dr. Sudhir Mehta">Draft:Dr. Sudhir Mehta</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Dr. Sudhir Mehta">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Sudhir_Mehta&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ADr.+Sudhir+Mehta">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I'm working on a draft for a biography of Sudhir Mehta (businessman) and am having trouble demonstrating his notability. I've tried to find reliable sources, but I'm not sure if the ones I have are strong enough. Could someone please take a look at my draft and give me specific guidance on what kind of sources I need and where I might find them? Thank you for your help! <a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MH-wiki2025" title="User talk:MH-wiki2025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-MH-wiki2025-20250225123300-12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a>: you're effectively asking us to pre-review, which is to say review, this draft. That's not something we do here at the help desk. If you have specific questions, you may ask those, otherwise I suggest you await the result of the next review.</dd> <dd>As a general piece of advice, you should start by first researching the subject to find sources which demonstrate notability, and then summarise what they have said; not write what you want, and then start looking for sources to support that (known as writing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BACKWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BACKWARD">WP:BACKWARD</a>). -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250225125900-MH-wiki2025-20250225123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> I understand; I would focus on finding independent sources to establish its reputation before moving the draft forward and wait for formal review. <a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MH-wiki2025" title="User talk:MH-wiki2025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-MH-wiki2025-20250225132900-DoubleGrazing-20250225125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic-February_25-20250225134500">13:45, 25 February 2025 review of submission by DarthDajic</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: 13:45, 25 February 2025 review of submission by DarthDajic" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-303' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-HKLionel-20250225150500-Theroadislong-20250225140800">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DarthDajic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DarthDajic (page does not exist)">DarthDajic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarthDajic" title="User talk:DarthDajic">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/DarthDajic" title="Special:Contributions/DarthDajic">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarthDajic&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A45%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+DarthDajic">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Ivan_Lerik" title="Draft:Ivan Lerik">Draft:Ivan Lerik</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ivan_Lerik&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Ivan_Lerik&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Ivan Lerik (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ivan_Lerik&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Ivan_Lerik">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ivan_Lerik&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AIvan+Lerik">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, is there anything we can do to speed up the article acceptance process? Thank you very much. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DarthDajic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DarthDajic (page does not exist)">DarthDajic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarthDajic" title="User talk:DarthDajic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DarthDajic-20250225134500-13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>If drafts show absolutely clearly, how the topic is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">notable</a> they are usually accepted very quickly. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250225140800-DarthDajic-20250225134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-92" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Even then, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VOLUNTEER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VOLUNTEER">Wikipedia is a volunteer service</a>, so no guarantees. Either way, I believe your draft still has some issues outlined by the reviewer and comments, so fix that first before worrying about the review speed. Happy editing, <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">it's lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250225150500-Theroadislong-20250225140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-93" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ס.ג'יבלי" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ס.ג'יבלי-February_25-20250225135800">13:58, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ס.ג'יבלי</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: 13:58, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ס.ג'יבלי" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-304' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Theroadislong-20250225151800-HKLionel-20250225150900">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" title="User:ס.ג'יבלי">ס.ג'יבלי</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" title="User talk:ס.ג'יבלי">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" title="Special:Contributions/ס.ג'יבלי">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A58%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Nizar_Elkhater" title="Draft:Nizar Elkhater">Draft:Nizar Elkhater</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nizar_Elkhater&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Nizar_Elkhater" title="Draft talk:Nizar Elkhater">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nizar_Elkhater&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Nizar_Elkhater">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nizar_Elkhater&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ANizar+Elkhater">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I asked to check the article and they decided it was not good enough. How can I improve it? <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" title="User:ס.ג'יבלי">ס.ג'יבלי</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A1.%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" title="User talk:ס.ג'יבלי">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-%D7%A1.%D7%92'%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99-20250225135800-13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%D7%A1.%D7%92'%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-94" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Try to address the problems outlined by the reviewer (finding sources with significant coverage that prove the subject is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTABLE">WP:NOTABLE</a> and qualifies for its own article). If you still encounter any specific issues, feel free to ask. Good luck, <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">it's lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250225150900-%D7%A1.%D7%92'%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%99-20250225135800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-95" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The relevant criteria are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NMUSICIAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NMUSICIAN">WP:NMUSICIAN</a> see if you can show how he passes one of them. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250225151800-HKLionel-20250225150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-96" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia-February_25-20250225160300">16:03, 25 February 2025 review of submission by RajputHistoryIndia</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: 16:03, 25 February 2025 review of submission by RajputHistoryIndia" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-305' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250225185700-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300">3 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RajputHistoryIndia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RajputHistoryIndia (page does not exist)">RajputHistoryIndia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RajputHistoryIndia" title="User talk:RajputHistoryIndia">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RajputHistoryIndia" title="Special:Contributions/RajputHistoryIndia">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RajputHistoryIndia&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A03%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+RajputHistoryIndia">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Rajput_Kuldevi" title="Draft:Rajput Kuldevi">Draft:Rajput Kuldevi</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rajput_Kuldevi&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Rajput_Kuldevi" title="Draft talk:Rajput Kuldevi">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rajput_Kuldevi&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Rajput_Kuldevi">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rajput_Kuldevi&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ARajput+Kuldevi">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Dear Articles for Creation Team, I recently submitted an article titled “Rajput Kuldevi” but it was declined. The article includes verifiable sources, and I made sure to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines. Could you please clarify why it was declined and what improvements are needed for approval? Thank you for your assistance. Best regards, Devendra Singh User Name:- RajputHistoryIndia <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RajputHistoryIndia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RajputHistoryIndia (page does not exist)">RajputHistoryIndia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RajputHistoryIndia" title="User talk:RajputHistoryIndia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300-16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-97" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RajputHistoryIndia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RajputHistoryIndia (page does not exist)">RajputHistoryIndia</a>: this draft was declined because it provides insufficient evidence to show that the subject is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notable">notable</a> enough to be included in the encyclopaedia. To rectify that, you need to cite multiple independent and reliable secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250225160800-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-98" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RajputHistoryIndia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RajputHistoryIndia (page does not exist)">RajputHistoryIndia</a>. Two of your sources cited are Wikipedia: this is almost never acceptable, as Wikipedia is user generated, and so not a reliable source. Two of them are on a site called rajputkuldevi.com, which is probably neither independent nor <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable</a> (as Wikipedia defines the term).</dd> <dd>A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what independent reliable sources say about a subject, and almost nothing else. Writing an article should begin with finding such sources, because if you cannot find any (or not enough) then every minute you spend on trying to write a draft will be time and effort wasted. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">WP:42</a> for how to identify acceptable sources. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250225185700-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati-February_25-20250225163400">16:34, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Albieabbiati</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: 16:34, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Albieabbiati" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-306' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-CNMall41-20250225200800-Albieabbiati-20250225163400">3 days ago</a>6 comments4 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Albieabbiati" title="User talk:Albieabbiati">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Albieabbiati" title="Special:Contributions/Albieabbiati">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Albieabbiati&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A34%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Albieabbiati">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades" title="Draft:Stevie Stiletto and the Switchblades">Draft:Stevie Stiletto and the Switchblades</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades" title="Draft talk:Stevie Stiletto and the Switchblades">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Stevie_Stiletto_and_the_Switchblades&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AStevie+Stiletto+and+the+Switchblades">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Greetings! I was told that this page was denied due to non-reliable sources however the sources listed are The Florida-Times Union as well as Maximum Rock and Roll which is arguably the most famous punk magazine out of the United States. I might be missing something? Many thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Albieabbiati" title="User talk:Albieabbiati">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Albieabbiati-20250225163400-16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a>: You are - <a href="/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners" title="Help:Referencing for beginners">they're just slapped on the end rather than properly cited.</a> Also, lose all the boldface words (we don't use those other than when introducing the subject) and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam" title="Wikipedia:Spam">promotional tone</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225163800-Albieabbiati-20250225163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Understood! I'll adjust the bold face and the citing. Maybe you can help me with the "promotional tone?" I have ZERO connection to this band and have no reason to promote them. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Albieabbiati" title="User talk:Albieabbiati">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Albieabbiati-20250225164500-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225163800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-102" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a>: The easiest way to do this is simply to <a href="/wiki/KISS_principle" title="KISS principle">stick strictly to summarising what the sources explicitly say</a>, without trying to editorialise or spin it. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225164900-Albieabbiati-20250225164500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-103" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a>. "... the band is recognized as one of Jacksonville's pioneering punk rock acts": promotional. No evaluative statement like this should ever appear in any article in Wikipedia's voice. (It may acceptable as a direct quotation from a wholly independent reliable source).</dd> <dd>And that's just the first line.</dd> <dd>If you write the article saying what the band (or their fans) want people to know about them, that will be promotional. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a>. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250225190300-Albieabbiati-20250225164500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-104" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albieabbiati&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albieabbiati (page does not exist)">Albieabbiati</a>:, I see you did some cleanup on the draft. However, please make sure to use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INCITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INCITE">WP:INCITE</a>. I would also suggest adding sources from Google Books. I am on the fence if they would meet notability but they seem to be covered in some detail there so it would help a reviewer once you resubmit. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250225200800-Albieabbiati-20250225163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-105" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" data-mw-thread-id="h-17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_25-20250225171200">17:12, 25 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: 17:12, 25 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-307' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-CNMall41-20250225200400-BlooBind-20250225171200">3 days ago</a>4 comments4 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BlooBind" title="Special:Contributions/BlooBind">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BlooBind&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=17%3A12%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+BlooBind">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Miraacle_Movie" title="Draft:Miraacle Movie">Draft:Miraacle Movie</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraacle_Movie&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Miraacle_Movie" title="Draft talk:Miraacle Movie">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraacle_Movie&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Miraacle_Movie">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraacle_Movie&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMiraacle+Movie">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi, My draft was declined with the following feedback: "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are: <ul><li>In-depth (not just brief mentions or routine announcements)</li> <li>Reliable</li> <li>Secondary</li> <li>Strictly independent of the subject."</li></ul> Based on this feedback, I have revised my draft by improving the references and ensuring they meet these criteria. Could someone review and confirm if my changes align with the required corrections? Also, is it appropriate for me to proceed with resubmitting the draft now? Thanks in advance for your guidance! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BlooBind-20250225171200-17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-106" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a>, I only see a single reference - this does not satisfy the multiple criteria. <a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">qcne</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Qcne-20250225171500-BlooBind-20250225171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-107" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>...and that's to IMDb, which is user-generated and therefore not even considered reliable. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250225171700-Qcne-20250225171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-108" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a>:, I did a quick <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFORE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFORE">WP:BEFORE</a> to determine if the topic is notable in order to not waste anyone's time. Unfortunately, there are no references I can find in a search for "Miraacle Movie" that would meet the notability criteria established in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCORP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCORP">WP:NCORP</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250225200400-BlooBind-20250225171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-109" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc-February_25-20250225194700">19:47, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Wznbfc</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: 19:47, 25 February 2025 review of submission by Wznbfc" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-308' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Wznbfc-20250225205800-DoubleGrazing-20250225200200">3 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wznbfc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wznbfc (page does not exist)">Wznbfc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wznbfc" title="User talk:Wznbfc">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wznbfc" title="Special:Contributions/Wznbfc">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wznbfc&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A47%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Wznbfc">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Dai_Wei_(composer)" title="Draft:Dai Wei (composer)">Draft:Dai Wei (composer)</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dai_Wei_(composer)&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Dai_Wei_(composer)" title="Draft talk:Dai Wei (composer)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dai_Wei_(composer)&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Dai_Wei_(composer)">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dai_Wei_(composer)&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ADai+Wei+%28composer%29">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My draft was rejected for the reason: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article." The editor also mentioned "Doesn't meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCOMPOSER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCOMPOSER">WP:NCOMPOSER</a>." However, after carefully reviewing the Criteria for composers and lyricists, I believe that the composer Dai Wei clearly meets at least criteria 1 and 4. Moreover, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCOMPOSER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCOMPOSER">WP:NCOMPOSER</a> guidelines seem to focus primarily on popular music and musical theater composers, with little consideration for contemporary classical/serious music composers. This makes it seem as though, despite Dai Wei's music having been performed in dozens of notable theaters worldwide and covered by major media outlets such as The New York Times, these achievements do not sufficiently support notability (Is my understanding correct?). I am unsure if additional information is required to improve my draft. Could you kindly advise? Thank you for your response. <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wznbfc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wznbfc (page does not exist)">Wznbfc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wznbfc" title="User talk:Wznbfc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Wznbfc-20250225194700-19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-110" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wznbfc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wznbfc (page does not exist)">Wznbfc</a>: okay, so what/where is the evidence that this person so "clearly" meets NCOMPOSER #1 and #4?</dd> <dd>Other than that, you've resubmitted the draft, and will receive feedback when a reviewer get around to assessing it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250225200200-Wznbfc-20250225194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-111" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Hi DoubleGrazing, Thank you so much for your reply.</dd> <dd>I have resubmitted my manuscript, but the reason I am asking here is that each review process takes 2-3 months. I want to know if there is anything I can do to improve my draft as much as possible, rather than facing the same situation again after waiting for another 2-3 months. <ol><li>1. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.</li></ol></dd> <dd>—Notable composition: The Dancing Moonlight. Over the past eight years, this piece has been performed dozens of times by renowned orchestras worldwide. Initially, this information was included within the piece's description, but considering it might not have been sufficiently prominent, I highlighted the widespread performances by placing this fact in the first paragraph before resubmitting. I am unsure if this adjustment is adequate. If you have any suggestions or advice, I would greatly appreciate your feedback. <ol><li>4. Has written a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers.</li></ol></dd> <dd>—She was awarded Commission from 2020 Underwood Readings.</dd> <dd>Again, thank you for your guidance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wznbfc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wznbfc (page does not exist)">Wznbfc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wznbfc" title="User talk:Wznbfc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Wznbfc-20250225205800-DoubleGrazing-20250225200200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-112" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain" data-mw-thread-id="h-21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain-February_25-20250225214800">21:48, 25 February 2025 review of submission by AladdinSustain</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: 21:48, 25 February 2025 review of submission by AladdinSustain" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-309' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-AladdinSustain-20250226012000-ColinFine-20250225232100">3 days ago</a>7 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AladdinSustain" title="User talk:AladdinSustain">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AladdinSustain" title="Special:Contributions/AladdinSustain">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AladdinSustain&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=21%3A48%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+AladdinSustain">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Template:Portland_City_Government" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Template:Portland City Government">Draft:Template:Portland City Government</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Template:Portland_City_Government&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Template:Portland_City_Government&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Template:Portland City Government (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Template:Portland_City_Government&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Template:Portland_City_Government">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Template:Portland_City_Government&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ATemplate%3APortland+City+Government">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi! This is the first template I’m creating and I’m wondering how to document sources in a template as I see from other templates that they do not seem to include inline citations? Thank you and all the best! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AladdinSustain" title="User talk:AladdinSustain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-AladdinSustain-20250225214800-21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-113" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a>: Draftspace shouldn't be used for templates. You should probably move this to a user subpage (such as <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain/Portland_City_Government_Template&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain/Portland City Government Template (page does not exist)">User:AladdinSustain/Portland City Government Template</a>) as soon as you are able. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225220200-AladdinSustain-20250225214800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-114" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>No problem! Will you please link me to directions? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AladdinSustain" title="User talk:AladdinSustain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-AladdinSustain-20250225220800-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225220200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-115" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a>: See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOVE">WP:MOVE</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225224200-AladdinSustain-20250225220800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-116" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a>. Since a navigation template is a set of links to existing Wikipedia article, I don't think they require citations, any more than categories do.</dd> <dd>Having said that, I personally don't think it is appropriate to link to an article about something as temporary as the current holders of offices - others may disagree.</dd> <dd>Have you read the essay <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigation_templates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Navigation templates">navigation templates</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250225232100-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225224200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-117" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>That makes sense, I’ll make sure it links to offices and orgs, not current people. That article and the info about citations were both helpful, thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AladdinSustain" title="User talk:AladdinSustain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-AladdinSustain-20250226012000-ColinFine-20250225232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-118" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>I successfully moved the page, thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AladdinSustain&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AladdinSustain (page does not exist)">AladdinSustain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AladdinSustain" title="User talk:AladdinSustain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-AladdinSustain-20250226011900-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225224200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-119" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato-February_25-20250225220900">22:09, 25 February 2025 review of submission by B52 strato</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: 22:09, 25 February 2025 review of submission by B52 strato" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-310' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-B52_strato-20250226170200-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200">3 days ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:B52_strato&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:B52 strato (page does not exist)">B52 strato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B52_strato" title="User talk:B52 strato">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/B52_strato" title="Special:Contributions/B52 strato">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:B52_strato&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A09%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+B52+strato">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)" title="Draft:X-02 Wyvern (Ace combat)">Draft:X-02 Wyvern (Ace combat)</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)" title="Draft talk:X-02 Wyvern (Ace combat)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:X-02_Wyvern_(Ace_combat)&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AX-02+Wyvern+%28Ace+combat%29">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> It was in the note at the beginning that it shouldn't be seen as reliable info but was still declined for "relibility"??? (Not trying to come off wrong so sorry if it seems that way :( ) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:B52_strato&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:B52 strato (page does not exist)">B52 strato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B52_strato" title="User talk:B52 strato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-B52_strato-20250225220900-22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-120" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:B52_strato&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:B52 strato (page does not exist)">B52 strato</a>: Unless you have sources that discuss the Wyvern in the context of games criticism, this is better suited for a Fandom wiki. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225224200-B52_strato-20250225220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-121" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Ok <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:B52_strato&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:B52 strato (page does not exist)">B52 strato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B52_strato" title="User talk:B52 strato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-B52_strato-20250226170200-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250225224200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-122" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>A Wikipedia article is a summary of what reliable independent sources say about a subject, and very little else. If there are no reliable independent sources about a subject, then there is nothing which can validly go into the article. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250225232300-B52_strato-20250225220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-123" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage-February_25-20250225223100">22:31, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ScreenSage</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: 22:31, 25 February 2025 review of submission by ScreenSage" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-311' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-CNMall41-20250226024300-ScreenSage-20250225223100">3 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ScreenSage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScreenSage (page does not exist)">ScreenSage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScreenSage" title="User talk:ScreenSage">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ScreenSage" title="Special:Contributions/ScreenSage">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ScreenSage&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A31%2C+25+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+ScreenSage">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Durwood_Fleming" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Durwood Fleming">Draft:Durwood Fleming</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Durwood_Fleming&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Durwood_Fleming&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Durwood Fleming (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Durwood_Fleming&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Durwood_Fleming">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Durwood_Fleming&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ADurwood+Fleming">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Thank you for your feedback regarding our draft article on Dr. Durwood Fleming. We understand the importance of secondary sources and will try to secure additional sources. Is there a specific quantity that Wikipedia considers sufficient for notability? We will conduct an archival search to identify more independent sources that document Dr. Fleming’s contributions. In addition to strengthening the references, is there anything else we can do to better demonstrate his impact on the religious community and educational administration to meet Wikipedia's standards for resubmission? We appreciate your feedback. -ScreenSage <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ScreenSage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScreenSage (page does not exist)">ScreenSage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScreenSage" title="User talk:ScreenSage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ScreenSage-20250225223100-22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-124" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ScreenSage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScreenSage (page does not exist)">ScreenSage</a>. Who are "we"? A Wikipedia account is personal and may not be used by multiple people. If several people are working on this draft, then they should create individual accounts.</dd> <dd>It is not up to you as the writer to "demonstrate his impact" on anything, and that may be why somebody referred to it as promotional. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to write about the subject, and been published in reliable places (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">WP:42</a> for more infomation about sources). If an independent source talks about his impact on the religious community, then you may summarise that source, or even quote short excerpts: either way, you should explicitly ascribe the view to that source: no article should use any evaluative language in Wikipedia's voice.</dd> <dd>My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verifiability</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">neutral point of view</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">reliable, independent sources</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">Bold, Revert, Discuss</a> cycle), then you might be ready to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Your first article">your first article</a> carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250225233400-ScreenSage-20250225223100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-125" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>A quick search didn't find much as far as significant coverage. I would focus more on finding that initially to ensure he meets notability guidelines. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250226024300-ScreenSage-20250225223100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-126" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><h1 id="February_26" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_26-20250226091200">February 26</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: February 26" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro-February_26-20250226091200">09:12, 26 February 2025 review of submission by DaniKro</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: 09:12, 26 February 2025 review of submission by DaniKro" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-312' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jéské_Couriano-20250226160900-DaniKro-20250226091200">3 days ago</a>4 comments4 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DaniKro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DaniKro (page does not exist)">DaniKro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaniKro" title="User talk:DaniKro">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/DaniKro" title="Special:Contributions/DaniKro">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DaniKro&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A12%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+DaniKro">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure" title="Draft:Hidden City: Hidden Object Adventure">Draft:Hidden City: Hidden Object Adventure</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure" title="Draft talk:Hidden City: Hidden Object Adventure">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hidden_City:_Hidden_Object_Adventure&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AHidden+City%3A+Hidden+Object+Adventure">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello! Since this is my first article, could you please let me know the required number of in-depth sources (and maybe some examples) needed for the article to pass the review? I used similar articles as references and noticed that not all of them include many sources. For example, this article has only one source: <a href="/wiki/Mystery_Manor" title="Mystery Manor">Mystery Manor</a>. Thank you for your assistance! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DaniKro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DaniKro (page does not exist)">DaniKro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaniKro" title="User talk:DaniKro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DaniKro-20250226091200-09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-127" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IMPERFECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IMPERFECT">WP:IMPERFECT</a>; we are always a work in progress and welcome positive contributions. Just because an article has only one source doesn't mean that that is the standard here, especially as articles for creation is a rigorously reviewed process that not everyone participates in. Anyway, the issue isn't the required number of sources - it's the extent to which the subject is significantly covered in the sources you cited. I see that you haven't edited the draft since it was declined - maybe try improving it even more first? If you think there's no way you can expand it further, try asking the reviewer on their own talk page (they might not have seen your reply on your talk page). Good luck, it's <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250226092200-DaniKro-20250226091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-128" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DaniKro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DaniKro (page does not exist)">DaniKro</a> Thank you for identifying another problematic article. I've marked it as such. While understandable, it is a poor idea to use any random article as a model, as those too could be inappropriate and you would be unaware of that. There are many ways to get inappropriate content past us(the main one being that this process is not required of all users, and has not existed the entire time Wikipedia has existed). We can only address what we know about. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OSE">other stuff exists</a>. If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are classified as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOODARTICLE">good articles</a>, which have been checked by the community.</dd> <dd>When linking to another article, the whole url is not needed; just the title in double brackets([[Mystery Manor]] gives <a href="/wiki/Mystery_Manor" title="Mystery Manor">Mystery Manor</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250226092600-DaniKro-20250226091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-129" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DaniKro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DaniKro (page does not exist)">DaniKro</a>: <a href="/wiki/Mystery_Manor" title="Mystery Manor">Mystery Manor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/A_brief_history_of_AfC" title="User:Jéské Couriano/A brief history of AfC">was never drafted</a>, having been created in mainspace before <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACPERM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACPERM">WP:ACPERM</a> became a thing in early 2018. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250226160900-DaniKro-20250226091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-130" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161-February_26-20250226091900">09:19, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 46.246.135.161</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: 09:19, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 46.246.135.161" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-313' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Theroadislong-20250226174800-331dot-20250226092300">2 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:46.246.135.161&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:46.246.135.161 (page does not exist)">46.246.135.161</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:46.246.135.161&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:46.246.135.161 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.246.135.161" title="Special:Contributions/46.246.135.161">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:46.246.135.161&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A19%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+46.246.135.161">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Nikolaos_Zormpas" title="Draft:Nikolaos Zormpas">Draft:Nikolaos Zormpas</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nikolaos_Zormpas&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Nikolaos_Zormpas" title="Draft talk:Nikolaos Zormpas">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nikolaos_Zormpas&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Nikolaos_Zormpas">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Nikolaos_Zormpas&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ANikolaos+Zormpas">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello. Could I please have your kind advice on how I can ensure that this article for internationally recognized author Nikolaos Zormpas can be included? I would really appreciate any guidance. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.246.135.161" title="Special:Contributions/46.246.135.161">46.246.135.161</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:46.246.135.161&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:46.246.135.161 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-46.246.135.161-20250226091900-09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-131" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Remember to log in when posting.</dd> <dd>It has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you think that you can address the concerns of reviewers, the first step is to appeal to the rejecting reviewer directly. You have not shown how he is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BIO">a notable person</a>. You have summarized his work, but not said what independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> say is important/significant/influential about it. The lead says he has had two articles published- what is significant about that? The "thought leadership" section is completely unsourced and also doesn't state what is important about his thought leadership. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250226092300-46.246.135.161-20250226091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-132" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The awards do not appear to be notable (ie. they have no Wikipedia articles) so zero evidence of passing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NWRITER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NWRITER">WP:NWRITER</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250226174800-331dot-20250226092300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-133" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101" data-mw-thread-id="h-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101-February_26-20250226103700">10:37, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Toblerone101</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: 10:37, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Toblerone101" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-314' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bonadea-20250226120100-Toblerone101-20250226111900">3 days ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Toblerone101" title="User:Toblerone101">Toblerone101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toblerone101" title="User talk:Toblerone101">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Toblerone101" title="Special:Contributions/Toblerone101">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Toblerone101&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=10%3A37%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Toblerone101">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Joyride_Sweets" title="Draft:Joyride Sweets">Draft:Joyride Sweets</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Joyride_Sweets&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Joyride_Sweets" title="Draft talk:Joyride Sweets">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Joyride_Sweets&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Joyride_Sweets">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Joyride_Sweets&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AJoyride+Sweets">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> What should I change <a href="/wiki/User:Toblerone101" title="User:Toblerone101">TobyB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toblerone101" title="User talk:Toblerone101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Toblerone101-20250226103700-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-134" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>There is nothing you can do, it has been rejected. No indication of notability has been given. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250226105700-Toblerone101-20250226103700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-135" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> How do I reapply for publishing <a href="/wiki/User:Toblerone101" title="User:Toblerone101">TobyB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toblerone101" title="User talk:Toblerone101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Toblerone101-20250226111900-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-136" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Toblerone101" title="User:Toblerone101">Toblerone101</a>: Since the current version of the draft is not an improvement to the version that was rejected in October (it is even more promotional, and still shows no sign of notability), you would be wasting your time by resubmitting.</dd> <dd>Please don't create new sections to ask new questions about the same draft – until this section is archived in a few days' time, please post here if you have further questions. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250226120100-Toblerone101-20250226111900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-137" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison" data-mw-thread-id="h-10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison-February_26-20250226103800">10:38, 26 February 2025 review of submission by RobbieIanMorrison</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: 10:38, 26 February 2025 review of submission by RobbieIanMorrison" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-315' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226153800-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226140400">3 days ago</a>7 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User talk:RobbieIanMorrison">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RobbieIanMorrison" title="Special:Contributions/RobbieIanMorrison">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=10%3A38%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+RobbieIanMorrison">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Gaie_Delap" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Gaie Delap">Draft:Gaie Delap</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gaie_Delap&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Gaie_Delap" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Gaie Delap">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gaie_Delap&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Gaie_Delap">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gaie_Delap&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AGaie+Delap">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello fellow editors First of all, thank you for prioritizing the review of this draft article. I am a little surprised that this request was declined (<s>as opposed to rejected</s>). I had read the Wikipedia guidelines carefully and tried to comply. I cannot imagine that the mainstream coverage is inadequate in this case — so that leaves the notability as a crime perpetrator that lacks merit. To quote from the guidelines: "the motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy". My estimation is that this latter threshold has been met and would welcome feedback on that context. My fallback is to let a little more water flow under the bridge — as it is very likely that the various legal trajectories described in the draft will unfold in significant ways over the coming weeks and months. To finish, does Wikipedia have a concept of a second review? If so, can I request one. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User talk:RobbieIanMorrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226103800-10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-138" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Reviews are not "prioritized"; drafts are reviewed in no specific order by volunteers on their own free time. If it was quick, it was probably by chance.</dd> <dd>Declined is better than rejected, not worse as you're suggesting, as it means you can resubmit. Rejected is the end of the line for a draft. Yes, you may resubmit if you can address what the reviewers say.</dd> <dd>I might refocus this to be about the event and not the person(see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP1E" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP1E">WP:BLP1E</a> as advised). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250226105000-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226103800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-139" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I don't disagree, but was just going to say that IMHO it's borderline, as there seems to be more to this, in terms of legal and political ramifications, than just the criminal offence. Although that said, given that the case is ongoing we may need to wait to see what transpires, exactly.</dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a>: unless you have a conflict of interest with regard to this subject, you're of course welcome to move the draft into the main space yourself, should you so wish. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226111000-331dot-20250226105000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:10, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-140" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I believe I am on the borderline with respect to editing conflict of interest. I wrote three times to the justice secretary Shabana Mahmood regarding Gaie Delap and copied that traffic to the public email address of Gaie. I myself have never corresponded directly with Gaie nor met Gaie nor any of her supporters. But Gaie did kindly send me two hand-written thank‑you notes via her support network while in prison. Shortly after I began editing that draft, I have intentionally had no further contact with Mahmood or Delap. So I would prefer to have another editor provide approval. My plan is to await the legal developments that will surely occur and resubmit as these public interest components grow — as @<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> suggests. Other editors are welcome to step in too in the interim of course! As @<a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> indicates, I did think about refocusing to the legal angle, but I think Gaie will remain central to these unfolding events. Thanks for the feedback everyone. <a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User talk:RobbieIanMorrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226115900-DoubleGrazing-20250226111000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-141" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Understood. In that case, yes, please do continue to pursue this through AfC. And your prudence in this respect is appreciated. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226120800-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-142" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a>: Noted. <a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User talk:RobbieIanMorrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226140400-DoubleGrazing-20250226120800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-143" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Article now live! @<a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> asked me to resubmit and they duly accepted the draft and cleaned up the AFC markup. Thanks again to all. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User:RobbieIanMorrison">RobbieIanMorrison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RobbieIanMorrison" title="User talk:RobbieIanMorrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226153800-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-144" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1235781174">.mw-parser-output .hmbox-outer{margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .hmbox-inner{display:inline-block;color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);margin-right:0.5em;padding:0.3em 0.5em}</style><div role="note" class="hmbox-outer resolved"><div class="hmbox-inner"><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 20px;height: 20px;" data-mw-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="20" data-height="20" data-mw-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Resolved</div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23-February_26-20250226132100">13:21, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Queenday23</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: 13:21, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Queenday23" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-316' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Queenday23-20250227100000-Bonadea-20250226160300">2 days ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Queenday23" title="User:Queenday23">Queenday23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Queenday23" title="User talk:Queenday23">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Queenday23" title="Special:Contributions/Queenday23">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Queenday23&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A21%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Queenday23">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:William_Wimmera" title="Draft:William Wimmera">Draft:William Wimmera</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:William_Wimmera&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:William_Wimmera&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:William Wimmera (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:William_Wimmera&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:William_Wimmera">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:William_Wimmera&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AWilliam+Wimmera">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> The article I have started today is a draft. I have been working on it for a number of years. Another editor has stated it needs more citations, but I am in the process of adding these from another document. I cannot find out how to continue in visual mode on this draft. Any help would be gratefully received. <pre><a href="/wiki/User:Queenday23" title="User:Queenday23">Queenday23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Queenday23" title="User talk:Queenday23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Queenday23-20250226132100-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-145" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Queenday23" title="User:Queenday23">Queenday23</a>: I don't use the visual editor myself, so can't help you there; I'm sure someone will be along soon who can.</dd> <dd>In the meantime, I'm curious what would make someone who lived nearly two centuries ago and died before getting into his teens <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notable">notable</a>? Could you describe briefly and in your own words what is the significance of this lad, which warrants his inclusion in a global encyclopaedia? Perhaps the answer is to be found somewhere in your draft, but nothing jumped at me based on a cursory scan. Thanks, -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226133900-Queenday23-20250226132100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-146" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks so much. He was brought here by a missionary and became a significant embodiment of the benefits of empire at the time. He was referred to regularly in the news and has a volume in the British Library dedicated to him. He is an early member of The Stolen Generations who we know something about and can share in the encyclopedia as an aid to understanding. <a href="/wiki/User:Queenday23" title="User:Queenday23">Queenday23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Queenday23" title="User talk:Queenday23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Queenday23-20250226134800-DoubleGrazing-20250226133900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-147" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> I'll just note here that the draft was submitted for review by a different user; the draft creator posted to my user talk page that they had intended to revise the draft and add sources before submitting it, and were taken aback by the fact that it had suddenly been submitted and reviewed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250226160300-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-148" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Yes, I noticed that too, and meant to takes this up with the submitter... but now see that you have already; thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226161200-Bonadea-20250226160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-149" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Thank you so much for checking on this and taking the time to make a note. <a href="/wiki/User:Queenday23" title="User:Queenday23">Queenday23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Queenday23" title="User talk:Queenday23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Queenday23-20250227100000-Bonadea-20250226160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-150" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025-February_26-20250226134000">13:40, 26 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: 13:40, 26 February 2025 review of submission by MH-wiki2025" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-317' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226150500-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000">3 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MH-wiki2025" title="User talk:MH-wiki2025">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MH-wiki2025" title="Special:Contributions/MH-wiki2025">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MH-wiki2025&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A40%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+MH-wiki2025">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth" title="Draft:Shree Datta Padmanabh Peeth">Draft:Shree Datta Padmanabh Peeth</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth" title="Draft talk:Shree Datta Padmanabh Peeth">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Shree_Datta_Padmanabh_Peeth&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AShree+Datta+Padmanabh+Peeth">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I believe Shree Datta Padmanabh Peeth meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORG">WP:NORG</a>. It has significant national recognition, as evidenced by its leader receiving the <a href="/wiki/Padma_Shri" title="Padma Shri">Padma Shri</a>. Media coverage in reputable sources like the <a href="/wiki/Times_of_India" class="mw-redirect" title="Times of India">Times of India</a>, Indian Express, Amar Ujala, and Deccan Herald further supports its notability. The organization also has a demonstrable historical impact, and its prominence is confirmed by government records. I respectfully request a reconsideration of the decline based on these verifiable references and the organization's notable influence. <a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MH-wiki2025" title="User talk:MH-wiki2025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000-13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-151" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:MH-wiki2025" title="User:MH-wiki2025">MH-wiki2025</a>: this organisation's leader receiving an award in no way whatsoever contributes towards the organisation's notability. "Historical impact" and "prominence" are not notability criteria, either. Coverage in reliable and independent secondary sources is, but it needs to be significant coverage (not just passing mentions), and it mustn't be based on press releases, interviews, commentary by someone from the organisation, routine business reporting, etc. A quick scan of your sources suggests they may be more in quantity than quality. Other than that, if you wish to challenge the review, you should approach the reviewer directly, rather than ask us here at the help desk to 'overrule' anything. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226150500-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-152" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher-February_26-20250226144400">14:44, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Abduddaher</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: 14:44, 26 February 2025 review of submission by Abduddaher" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-318' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226145900-Abduddaher-20250226144400">3 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Abduddaher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Abduddaher (page does not exist)">Abduddaher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abduddaher" title="User talk:Abduddaher">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Abduddaher" title="Special:Contributions/Abduddaher">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abduddaher&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A44%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Abduddaher">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Abdulahman_Thaher" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Abdulahman Thaher">Draft:Abdulahman Thaher</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Abdulahman_Thaher&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Abdulahman_Thaher" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Abdulahman Thaher">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Abdulahman_Thaher&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Abdulahman_Thaher">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Abdulahman_Thaher&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AAbdulahman+Thaher">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Greetings I have made the necessary changes to this article, and I have reviewed and improved it according to the feedback I received, but the review took a long time, more than two months, when can it be approved or requested more changes? <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://w.wiki/DDW4">https://w.wiki/DDW4</a> <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Abduddaher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Abduddaher (page does not exist)">Abduddaher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abduddaher" title="User talk:Abduddaher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Abduddaher-20250226144400-14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-153" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Abduddaher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Abduddaher (page does not exist)">Abduddaher</a>: don't know if you noticed, but on the top of your draft it says <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">"This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,367 pending submissions waiting for review."</q> There is no way of saying how long you have to wait, the review can take place at any time. Please be patient. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250226145900-Abduddaher-20250226144400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-154" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247" data-mw-thread-id="h-17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247-February_26-20250226174300">17:43, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 115.96.219.247</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: 17:43, 26 February 2025 review of submission by 115.96.219.247" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-319' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250226174900-115.96.219.247-20250226174300">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:115.96.219.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:115.96.219.247 (page does not exist)">115.96.219.247</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.96.219.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.96.219.247 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.96.219.247" title="Special:Contributions/115.96.219.247">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.96.219.247&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=17%3A43%2C+26+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+115.96.219.247">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Umesh_Zirpe" title="Draft:Umesh Zirpe">Draft:Umesh Zirpe</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Umesh_Zirpe&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Umesh_Zirpe" title="Draft talk:Umesh Zirpe">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Umesh_Zirpe&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Umesh_Zirpe">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Umesh_Zirpe&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AUmesh+Zirpe">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My article is declined. I have included all the authentic sources from various national newspaper of India. And I see that Umesh Zirpe is a notable person for Wikipedia article. His contribution is mountaineering is remarkable. Please guide and help me to get his article approved. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.96.219.247" title="Special:Contributions/115.96.219.247">115.96.219.247</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.96.219.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.96.219.247 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-115.96.219.247-20250226174300-17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-155" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Remember to log in when posting. If you are the creator of the draft, it appears you took a picture of Mr. Zirpe and he posed for you. What is your connection to him?</dd> <dd>Awards do not contribute to notability unless the awards themselves merit articles(like <a href="/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize" title="Nobel Peace Prize">Nobel Peace Prize</a> or <a href="/wiki/Academy_Award" class="mw-redirect" title="Academy Award">Academy Award</a>).</dd> <dd>You have 38 references- as odd as it might sound, that is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBOMB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBOMB">too many references</a>. At the same time, you have portions that are unsourced. Fewer high quality references are preferred to a large number of low quality sources. Most of your sources seem to just document his achievements, they don't summarize what sources say is significant about those achievements. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250226174900-115.96.219.247-20250226174300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-156" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><h1 id="February_27" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_27-20250227003100">February 27</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: February 27" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11" data-mw-thread-id="h-00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11-February_27-20250227003100">00:31, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Theconnorrossfangirl11</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: 00:31, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Theconnorrossfangirl11" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-320' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227193600-Bonadea-20250227062600">1 day ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User:Theconnorrossfangirl11">Theconnorrossfangirl11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="Special:Contributions/Theconnorrossfangirl11">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=00%3A31%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Theconnorrossfangirl11">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Connor_Ross" title="Draft:Connor Ross">Draft:Connor Ross</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Connor_Ross&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Connor_Ross" title="Draft talk:Connor Ross">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Connor_Ross&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Connor_Ross">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Connor_Ross&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AConnor+Ross">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> i need 2 reference more of connor's stuff plz help me out thx <a href="/wiki/User:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User:Theconnorrossfangirl11">Theconnorrossfangirl11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100-00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-157" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User:Theconnorrossfangirl11">Theconnorrossfangirl11</a>:, there is no set number of sources needed. What is required is that the sources are reliable and they show significant coverage. What is needed is to ensure that everything in the bio is supported by a reliable source (right now there is a lot that is not). If it cannot be sources, it would need to be removed. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250227011100-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-158" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>There are currently no reliable, independent sources, and most of the text is promotional in tone. His CV (which shouldn't be used as a source anyway) supports almost none of the information where it's placed, and the other two sources (gossip pieces that should not be included) are also not connected to the draft content. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250227062600-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-159" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>dang but i guess i wil try bettr thx <a href="/wiki/User:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User:Theconnorrossfangirl11">Theconnorrossfangirl11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11" title="User talk:Theconnorrossfangirl11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227193600-Bonadea-20250227062600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-160" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm" data-mw-thread-id="h-01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm-February_27-20250227012000">01:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Mohshinhm</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: 01:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Mohshinhm" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-321' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Mohshinhm-20250228065600-CNMall41-20250227034200">1 day ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm" title="User:Mohshinhm">Mohshinhm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohshinhm" title="User talk:Mohshinhm">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mohshinhm" title="Special:Contributions/Mohshinhm">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mohshinhm&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=01%3A20%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Mohshinhm">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm/sandbox" title="User:Mohshinhm/sandbox">User:Mohshinhm/sandbox</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mohshinhm/sandbox&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mohshinhm/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Mohshinhm/sandbox (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mohshinhm/sandbox&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Mohshinhm/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mohshinhm/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AMohshinhm%2Fsandbox">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello Sir, I apologize for forgetting to send the message that should have been included in the comment for Bobby Cohn. However, in my latest update, I removed some content that, in my opinion, did not have sufficient support for inclusion on the page of Kamrul Tarafder. The picture was also removed, but I have obtained permission to use it on Kamrul Tarafder's page. Please let me know how I can fix this. Your guidance would be greatly appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm" title="User:Mohshinhm">Mohshinhm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohshinhm" title="User talk:Mohshinhm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mohshinhm-20250227012000-01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-161" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I'm not sure if the content I included is considered notable, but I made sure to highlight Kamrul Tarafder’s contributions, including helping almost 2 million women in the Philippines overcome financial difficulties through microfinance. His dedication and passion have significantly contributed to the growth of the company and its mission to support millions of women. <a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm" title="User:Mohshinhm">Mohshinhm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohshinhm" title="User talk:Mohshinhm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mohshinhm-20250227012300-Mohshinhm-20250227012000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-162" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm" title="User:Mohshinhm">Mohshinhm</a>: based on the edit histories of your sandbox and the other draft on the same topic, I would ask you to read both <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a> and make the appropriate disclosure if applicable. --<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250227034200-Mohshinhm-20250227012300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-163" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I have never received any funding from the ASA Philippines Foundation. The ASA Philippines Foundation, along with President Kamrul Tarafder and various nonprofit organizations, private sectors, and international multilateral funding organizations, has participated as active industry partners in collaborative research funding tenders with the Australian and Canadian governments. Additionally, the ASA Philippines Foundation collaborated on the Rehabilitation, Resettlement, and Repatriation of Rohingya (RRR) research project in 2019, which was led by Dr. Mohshin Habib, who was then at Swinburne University of Technology in Australia. <a href="/wiki/User:Mohshinhm" title="User:Mohshinhm">Mohshinhm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohshinhm" title="User talk:Mohshinhm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mohshinhm-20250228065600-CNMall41-20250227034200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-164" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans" data-mw-thread-id="h-05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans-February_27-20250227054200">05:42, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MikeatVans</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: 05:42, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MikeatVans" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-322' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-CNMall41-20250227095000-HKLionel-20250227061700">2 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MikeatVans&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MikeatVans (page does not exist)">MikeatVans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MikeatVans" title="User talk:MikeatVans">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MikeatVans" title="Special:Contributions/MikeatVans">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MikeatVans&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=05%3A42%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+MikeatVans">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Ploenchan Vinyaratn">Draft:Ploenchan Vinyaratn</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Ploenchan Vinyaratn (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ploenchan_Vinyaratn&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3APloenchan+Vinyaratn">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> This was rejected for “tone.” What needs fixed? I will fix what is wrong if someone can help me know what I need to do. Thanks you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MikeatVans&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MikeatVans (page does not exist)">MikeatVans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MikeatVans" title="User talk:MikeatVans">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-MikeatVans-20250227054200-05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-165" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I see that you have not edited the draft since it was declined; try reading the policies cited in the declination (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENCSTYLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENCSTYLE">WP:ENCSTYLE</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PUFFERY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PUFFERY">WP:PUFFERY</a>). Once you are sure that your draft adheres to these policies/guidelines, feel free to resubmit it. Happy editing, it's <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250227061700-MikeatVans-20250227054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-166" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I think user is asking for assistance pointing out the specific areas where those policies are not being adhered to. Regardless, I took a look the person meets notability guidelines. There were some minor issues such as peacock language but nothing that should have kept it out of the mainspace.--<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-CNMall41-20250227095000-HKLionel-20250227061700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-167" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35-February_27-20250227091300">09:13, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 115.131.47.35</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: 09:13, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 115.131.47.35" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-323' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250227091500-115.131.47.35-20250227091300">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:115.131.47.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:115.131.47.35 (page does not exist)">115.131.47.35</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.131.47.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.131.47.35 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.131.47.35" title="Special:Contributions/115.131.47.35">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.131.47.35&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A13%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+115.131.47.35">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Xavier_Priadko" title="Draft:Xavier Priadko">Draft:Xavier Priadko</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xavier_Priadko&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Xavier_Priadko" title="Draft talk:Xavier Priadko">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xavier_Priadko&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Xavier_Priadko">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xavier_Priadko&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AXavier+Priadko">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Because i'm a filmmaker <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.131.47.35" title="Special:Contributions/115.131.47.35">115.131.47.35</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:115.131.47.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:115.131.47.35 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-115.131.47.35-20250227091300-09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-168" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I wish you luck with your film career, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTO">autobiography policy</a>. You also must be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRODUCER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRODUCER">a notable creative professional as Wikipedia defines one</a> first, you can't use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is the last place to write about a topic, not the first. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227091500-115.131.47.35-20250227091300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-169" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" data-mw-thread-id="h-10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-February_27-20250227104900">10:49, 27 February 2025 review of submission by ChrisN at The Student Room</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: 10:49, 27 February 2025 review of submission by ChrisN at The Student Room" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-324' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250227105200-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" title="User:ChrisN at The Student Room">ChrisN at The Student Room</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" title="User talk:ChrisN at The Student Room">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" title="Special:Contributions/ChrisN at The Student Room">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=10%3A49%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+ChrisN+at+The+Student+Room">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:The_Student_Room" title="Draft:The Student Room">Draft:The Student Room</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Student_Room&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:The_Student_Room" title="Draft talk:The Student Room">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Student_Room&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:The_Student_Room">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Student_Room&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AThe+Student+Room">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, I appreciate people are busy, but wondered if there is a chance anyone would be able to review this submission, as it has been over 2m since I resubmitted it. Thank you so much. <a href="/wiki/User:ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" title="User:ChrisN at The Student Room">ChrisN at The Student Room</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" title="User talk:ChrisN at The Student Room">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900-10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-170" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>As stated, "This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,432 pending submissions waiting for review.". There is no way to speed this up or "jump the line" as everyone would like their draft reviewed quickly. Please be patient. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227105200-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-171" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread-February_27-20250227132000">13:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Acakebread</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: 13:20, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Acakebread" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-325' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227134000-Acakebread-20250227133700">2 days ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acakebread&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acakebread (page does not exist)">Acakebread</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Acakebread" title="User talk:Acakebread">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Acakebread" title="Special:Contributions/Acakebread">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Acakebread&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A20%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Acakebread">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Permuradic_Number" title="Draft:Permuradic Number">Draft:Permuradic Number</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Permuradic_Number&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Permuradic_Number" title="Draft talk:Permuradic Number">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Permuradic_Number&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Permuradic_Number">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Permuradic_Number&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3APermuradic+Number">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> please get someone that understands maths to review this decision.. this is part of number theory and will be an entry on Wikipedia at some point regardless of any jobsworth's attempt to block it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acakebread&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acakebread (page does not exist)">Acakebread</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Acakebread" title="User talk:Acakebread">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Acakebread-20250227132000-13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-172" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acakebread&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acakebread (page does not exist)">Acakebread</a>: we don't accept unreferenced drafts, and we also don't accept original research, so this fails on two counts.</dd> <dd>And please remain civil, there is no need to start hurling insults around just because you don't get your way. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227132400-Acakebread-20250227132000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-173" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Wikipedia moderators generally seem to have a problem with facts.. it's ok, I'll take my information elsewhere <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acakebread&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acakebread (page does not exist)">Acakebread</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Acakebread" title="User talk:Acakebread">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Acakebread-20250227132900-DoubleGrazing-20250227132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-174" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>You haven't given any facts. You've posted an unreferenced essay. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227133200-Acakebread-20250227132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-175" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>there's a section of references at the end. Also the reason I replied the way I did was because of the nasty and curt response I initially received.. I was told in an email that I have been permanently rejected and won't be allowed to resubmit.. what's the point of even trying if people are going to react like this. I am not going to bother now. I was only adding for other people's use. I'll just contact Mathloger or someone that will be more receptive <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acakebread&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acakebread (page does not exist)">Acakebread</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Acakebread" title="User talk:Acakebread">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Acakebread-20250227133700-331dot-20250227133200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-176" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>You were posting it to promulgate your own idea. You need to do that elsewhere, that's not what Wikipedia is for – there are any number of blogging etc. platforms out there; you might even get this into a journal of some sort, if it has any merit. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227134000-Acakebread-20250227133700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-177" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit-February_27-20250227145900">14:59, 27 February 2025 review of submission by SapphireBandit</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: 14:59, 27 February 2025 review of submission by SapphireBandit" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-326' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-SapphireBandit-20250301064900-StartGrammarTime-20250301051400">10 hours ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SapphireBandit" title="User talk:SapphireBandit">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SapphireBandit" title="Special:Contributions/SapphireBandit">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SapphireBandit&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A59%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+SapphireBandit">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:The_Upturned" title="Draft:The Upturned">Draft:The Upturned</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Upturned&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:The_Upturned" title="Draft talk:The Upturned">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Upturned&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:The_Upturned">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Upturned&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AThe+Upturned">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Having trouble figuring out if a draft I made was declined correctly or mistakenly. The Upturned is a very small game comparatively, so it really didn't have too many sources to cite. I guess I wasn't really too surprised when it got rejected for a lack of notability. I had one article for a review on PC Gamer which was good, but other then that I had articles from sites such as Push to Talk, Fearzine Magazine, and Indie Games Plus. I knew the last two were pretty small so I was unsure whether they were considered reliable at the time, though after the decline I reviewed the reliable source guidelines and I'm now pretty certain they are not. However, the confusion comes in with the article from Push to Talk. At first, it really seemed like a reliable source to me, so I thought my reviewer just missed the section on The Upturned contained in it, as the article was mainly about Lethal Company and mainly being used as a source for brief information on Lethal company, so I kinda thought it was my fault for not marking the section on The Upturned. Though after reviewing the reliable source guidelines, I was decently sure that it was not a reliable source due to it being a smaller publication and seemingly self-published. However, when I was looking through Lethal Company's sources (article ranked C-Class) with Ctrl F to see if there were any sections on The Upturned, I realized the article was also being used as a source there. Normally I would assume it is unreliable since it was declined, but since I never cited the specific section on The Upturned, I am unsure if it was considered a reliable source but the section on The Upturned was missed. Of course the Lethal Company article could always have just wrongfully used that source, but now it is especially hard for me to tell if it is or isn't reliable. Basically, the guidelines on reliable sources are a vague in some parts, so I was wondering if anyone with more experience could tell me if this could be considered reliable source: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.pushtotalk.gg/p/how-lethal-company-sold-10-million-copies">https://www.pushtotalk.gg/p/how-lethal-company-sold-10-million-copies</a> And if so, should I contact the person who declined my article or submit it for re-review with the relevant section directly referenced? Probably not gonna be reliable but this has been confusing me for a while now, so I just want to try to resolve the situation with certainty. Any help would be greatly appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SapphireBandit" title="User talk:SapphireBandit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-SapphireBandit-20250227145900-14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-178" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a>: whether or not Push to Talk is a reliable source, it isn't independent, because it is based on an interview of the developer. It also doesn't provide significant coverage of The Upturned. The fact that it is cited as a source in the Lethal Company article gets around these problems because that article has such plentiful (and probably therefore strong, although I haven't analysed them) sources that it doesn't have to rely on that source to establish notability. Does that answer your question? -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227154800-SapphireBandit-20250227145900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-179" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> I think I may have to respectfully disagree that the article fails to be independent due to it being interview-based. Articles are only defined as not independent when there is a direct affiliation between the source and the subject. An article containing an interview or not does not determine its independent status; interviews have been included in articles from many highly respected news organizations. Although it is true that the interview with Zeekerss is used in multiple sections of the article, the main focus of the article is still the author's analysis and thoughts of Zeekerss' history, development of games, creation of Lethal Company, and newfound success.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I would also have to disagree that the article does not provide significant coverage of The Upturned. While I would not include the quotes from Zeekerss as part of its coverage, the parts written by the article’s author that talk about The Upturned measure 73 in total words. Although there is no defined metric for what constitutes significant coverage, the Wikipedian essay <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:One_hundred_words" title="Wikipedia:One hundred words">One Hundred Words</a> lists 100 words as being the maximum number of words generally required to be significant coverage, further listing 50 words as likely being significant. Although 73 words only passes this essay's defined criteria for likely significance, when combined with the fact that the section on The Upturned also contains quotes from the article's interview with Zeekerss as well as a screenshot of the gameplay featured in The Upturned, I would personally identify the article's coverage of the game as being significant.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Although these specific subjects are subjective, what I mostly worry about is whether the source Push to Talk is considered reliable or not, as its inclusion in Lethal Company's sources, although no true indicator of reliability, causes me to view the option of the article being reliable as having an increased probability. If it does not require too much work, it would be a big help if you could give me any further insight on the reliability of Push to Talk, though please feel free to indicate any criticisms you have on my interpretation of the article as independent and providing significant coverage. <a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SapphireBandit" title="User talk:SapphireBandit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-SapphireBandit-20250227175900-DoubleGrazing-20250227154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-180" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a>, I would hesitate to trust One Hundred Words as a guide - it was created in 2015, when requirements were much lower, and has not seen any significant change since. I'm sorry to say I agree with DoubleGrazing that the Push to Talk article doesn't have significant coverage of The Upturned; we are normally looking for much more than a couple of paragraphs. Ideally most if not all of the source would be focused on your particular subject, although that gets trickier with more obscure subjects.</dd> <dd>You might be interested in asking for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VG">Wikiproject Video games</a>, which seems to be very active and will be full of people who are really into creating and maintaining articles about video games. You may also be interested in seeing examples of Good Articles within the field; these have been assessed as some of our best articles and you can use them as reliable guides to what you're aiming for. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:GA-Class_video_game_articles">This link</a> will take you there. Good luck and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:StartGrammarTime" title="User:StartGrammarTime">StartGrammarTime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StartGrammarTime" title="User talk:StartGrammarTime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-StartGrammarTime-20250301051400-SapphireBandit-20250227175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-181" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Ah, alright, thanks for the advice. The information on sourcing is very helpful, never realized the article I found when I was originally researching it was wrong; this new info is definitely a big help. I got interrupted here after the vandalism of this page, so I also consulted some people in the live chat, and they gave me some pointers on what other things I was doing wrong.</dd> <dd>So far I've been using featured articles such as Outer Wilds, Cave Story, and OneShot to base mine off of, though I've done more research, and I can definitely see where I went wrong specifically. Don't feel bad about the article having insignificant coverage though; I honestly am totally fine wherever the wind blows. For me, when in situations like this, what I always care about the most is finding the information that will get me to an objective conclusion, and you've certainly helped with that.</dd> <dd>Anyways, thanks for your assistance with this, and good luck to you. <a href="/wiki/User:SapphireBandit" title="User:SapphireBandit">SapphireBandit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SapphireBandit" title="User talk:SapphireBandit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-SapphireBandit-20250301064900-StartGrammarTime-20250301051400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:49, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-182" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1" data-mw-thread-id="h-15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1-February_27-20250227150600">15:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Riteshkumarjee1</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: 15:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Riteshkumarjee1" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-327' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250227154000-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Riteshkumarjee1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Riteshkumarjee1 (page does not exist)">Riteshkumarjee1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Riteshkumarjee1" title="User talk:Riteshkumarjee1">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Riteshkumarjee1" title="Special:Contributions/Riteshkumarjee1">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Riteshkumarjee1&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=15%3A06%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Riteshkumarjee1">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Ritesh_kumar_jee1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ritesh kumar jee1 (page does not exist)">Ritesh kumar jee1</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ritesh_kumar_jee1&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ritesh_kumar_jee1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Ritesh kumar jee1 (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ritesh_kumar_jee1&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Ritesh_kumar_jee1">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ritesh_kumar_jee1&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ARitesh+kumar+jee1">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My personal <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Riteshkumarjee1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Riteshkumarjee1 (page does not exist)">Riteshkumarjee1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Riteshkumarjee1" title="User talk:Riteshkumarjee1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600-15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-183" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography" title="Wikipedia:Autobiography">Writing about yourself</a> is strongly discouraged in Wikipedia. Article on people (or any other subject) are only accepted if the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a> - most people do not. Notability mostly comes down to whether or not there is enough <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">independent, reliably published, material about the subject</a> to base an article on. Note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a>. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.</dd> <dd>My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verifiability</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">neutral point of view</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:42" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:42">reliable, independent sources</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">Bold, Revert, Discuss</a> cycle), then you might be ready to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Your first article">your first article</a> carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250227154000-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-184" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd" data-mw-thread-id="h-15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd-February_27-20250227154100">15:41, 27 February 2025 review of submission by GearNerd</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: 15:41, 27 February 2025 review of submission by GearNerd" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-328' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227165700-GearNerd-20250227154100">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:GearNerd" title="User:GearNerd">GearNerd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GearNerd" title="User talk:GearNerd">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GearNerd" title="Special:Contributions/GearNerd">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GearNerd&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=15%3A41%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+GearNerd">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:CARiD.com" title="Draft:CARiD.com">Draft:CARiD.com</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:CARiD.com&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:CARiD.com" title="Draft talk:CARiD.com">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:CARiD.com&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:CARiD.com">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:CARiD.com&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ACARiD.com">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello everyone! I recently had my draft submission declined, and I’d like to clarify my understanding of notability criteria to improve my future contributions. My main question is about some of the references I used to establish notability. I believed these sources met all notability criteria (reliable, secondary, in-depth coverage), but I want to ensure my logic is correct: 1. Barron’s - a highly reputable financial publication, covers the company in-depth, I can’t say based on this article it’s not independent. 2. My Central Jersey, New Jersey Business News, Cincinnati Business Courier – reliable regional sources. 3. Seeking Alpha – covers the company entirely, and the articles contain a disclosure that the author does not receive compensation for their research from the company and has no business relations with it. I understand that some of these sources include quotes from company representatives, but these are not full interviews. I also don’t see any obvious proof these are sponsored articles, but I’d appreciate guidance on how to evaluate that. I’d like to ensure I’m applying Wikipedia’s standards correctly. I noticed that similar auto parts retailers have existing pages that rely almost entirely on primary sources. I am not arguing that this means this draft should automatically be accepted, but I would like clarification on how Wikipedia balances primary vs. independent sources when determining notability for companies in this industry. I appreciate your feedback on this matter, it would be very helpful in my future edits and articles. <a href="/wiki/User:GearNerd" title="User:GearNerd">GearNerd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GearNerd" title="User talk:GearNerd">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-GearNerd-20250227154100-15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-185" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:GearNerd" title="User:GearNerd">GearNerd</a>:</dd> <dd>The Barron's article talks about Parts iD, not CariD. Are they the same thing?</dd> <dd>The My Central Jersey piece is basically someone from the business talking, ie. not independent.</dd> <dd>SeekingAlpha is a user-generated / primary source.</dd> <dd>A lot of the sources cited in this draft are routine business reporting (financial results, M&A, etc.) which does not establish notability per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCORP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCORP">WP:NCORP</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227165700-GearNerd-20250227154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-186" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula" data-mw-thread-id="h-15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula-February_27-20250227154600">15:46, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Yogeshsitoula</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: 15:46, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Yogeshsitoula" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-329' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jorkalash-20250227165000-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200">2 days ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Yogeshsitoula">Yogeshsitoula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Yogeshsitoula">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yogeshsitoula" title="Special:Contributions/Yogeshsitoula">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yogeshsitoula&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=15%3A46%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Yogeshsitoula">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Feri_Resham_Filili" title="Draft:Feri Resham Filili">Draft:Feri Resham Filili</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Feri_Resham_Filili&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Feri_Resham_Filili&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Feri Resham Filili (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Feri_Resham_Filili&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Feri_Resham_Filili">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Feri_Resham_Filili&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AFeri+Resham+Filili">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, my article was declined due to a lack of reliable sources, but I have provided an IMDb link, which is a widely accepted movie database. Could you clarify why IMDb is not considered sufficient in this case? Also, what other sources would be acceptable for verifying the movie's release and details? Thank you for your guidance. <a href="/wiki/User:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Yogeshsitoula">Yogeshsitoula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Yogeshsitoula">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600-15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-187" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Yogeshsitoula">Yogeshsitoula</a>: IMDb is mostly user-generated and therefore not considered reliable, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IMDB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IMDB">WP:IMDB</a> for more on this. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227154900-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-188" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>I understand that IMDb is generally not considered a reliable source due to its user-generated nature, and I appreciate the clarification regarding WP:IMDB.</dd> <dd>However, I also referenced a legitimate news source, NepalNews, which reported on the movie’s release and its details. While I understand that even news sites may have some user-generated content, in this case, the article appears to come from a recognized news outlet and is based on factual reporting, which I believed would be acceptable. Could you kindly provide further guidance on whether sources like reputable entertainment news websites or other sources such as official press releases would be acceptable in cases like this? <a href="/wiki/User:Jorkalash" title="User:Jorkalash">Jorkalash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jorkalash" title="User talk:Jorkalash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Jorkalash-20250227162500-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-189" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jorkalash" title="User:Jorkalash">Jorkalash</a>: are you operating both the Jorkalash and @<a href="/wiki/User:Yogeshsitoula" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Yogeshsitoula">Yogeshsitoula</a> accounts? The latter asked the first question, and now you're asking the follow-on one.</dd> <dd>Yes, there is a citation to NepalNews. It looks likely to be based on a press release or similar publicity material, judging by the way it reads, and that it has no byline. In any case, a single source, even if solid, wouldn't be enough to establish notability.</dd> <dd>You can find the notability criteria at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> (general) and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFILM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFILM">WP:NFILM</a> (specific to films). -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200-Jorkalash-20250227162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-190" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Ah okay, you got your account renamed between asking the first question and the second. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164500-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-191" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>I recently changed my username for privacy reasons, as my full name was being used as my username, which compromised my anonymity. I appreciate the clarification, and thank you for providing the notability criteria. I'll review the guidelines and explore additional sources to ensure the article meets the necessary requirements. <a href="/wiki/User:Jorkalash" title="User:Jorkalash">Jorkalash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jorkalash" title="User talk:Jorkalash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Jorkalash-20250227165000-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-192" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN-February_27-20250227162300">16:23, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MicronationUCCN</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: 16:23, 27 February 2025 review of submission by MicronationUCCN" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-330' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164800-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300">2 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MicronationUCCN&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MicronationUCCN (page does not exist)">MicronationUCCN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MicronationUCCN" title="User talk:MicronationUCCN">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MicronationUCCN" title="Special:Contributions/MicronationUCCN">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MicronationUCCN&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A23%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+MicronationUCCN">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Raiketan_River" title="Draft:Raiketan River">Draft:Raiketan River</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Raiketan_River&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Raiketan_River" title="Draft talk:Raiketan River">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Raiketan_River&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Raiketan_River">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Raiketan_River&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ARaiketan+River">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I have done my own research on this river from the very few sources I have been able to find and have used tools and google maps to gather geographical data. There is no source in-depth enough nor significant enough about this river to properly cite it, what do I do? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MicronationUCCN&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MicronationUCCN (page does not exist)">MicronationUCCN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MicronationUCCN" title="User talk:MicronationUCCN">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300-16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-193" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MicronationUCCN&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MicronationUCCN (page does not exist)">MicronationUCCN</a>: that sounds very much like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_research" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Original research">original research</a>, which ins't allowed on Wikipedia. And per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GEONATURAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GEONATURAL">WP:GEONATURAL</a>, we do need to have reliably sourced, published information available beyond just statistics etc. Seems like this is not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notable">notable</a> enough, at least not at this time. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164800-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-194" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667" data-mw-thread-id="h-18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667-February_27-20250227184400">18:44, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: 18:44, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-331' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228044700-331dot-20250228013300">1 day ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kavoshgar_1667" title="Special:Contributions/Kavoshgar 1667">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=18%3A44%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Kavoshgar+1667">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Arash_Moayerian" title="Draft:Arash Moayerian">Draft:Arash Moayerian</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Arash_Moayerian" title="Draft talk:Arash Moayerian">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Arash_Moayerian">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AArash+Moayerian">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi there, My submission is declined due to the matter of notability of the subject (Arash Moayerian). I am just wondering how many third party sources (reliable, secondary and independent) to be provided within the article to prove the notability of the subject. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250227184400-18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-195" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>There is not a specific number, but a minimum of three is usually acceptable. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227230600-Kavoshgar_1667-20250227184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-196" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thank you so much for your reply.</dd> <dd>I have added 41 new third-party sources for notability of the subject. I am just wondering if you could have a quick look at them to see if they look good prior submission form notability point of view. This request is just for having your opinion as an experienced Wikipedia member and I know that it should not be considered as any kind of approval. Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228011300-331dot-20250227230600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-197" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I can tell you without even looking that 41 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBOMB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBOMB">is far too many sources</a>. Fewer high quality sources are preferred to a large number of low quality ones. Instead of writing text and looking for sources to support it, you should first have the sources in hand and then write the draft, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BACKWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BACKWARD">WP:BACKWARD</a>.</dd> <dd>Note that awards do not confer notability unless the awards themselves merit articles(like <a href="/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize" title="Nobel Peace Prize">Nobel Peace Prize</a> or <a href="/wiki/Academy_Award" class="mw-redirect" title="Academy Award">Academy Award</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250228013300-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228011300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-198" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks for your advice.</dd> <dd>Actually I followed the same procedure you mentioned above. The write up is based on 17 third-party sources listed in the Reference section. The rest of sources are provided in the “talk” page of subject just to prove the notability of subject as per reviewer request.</dd> <dd>It would be much appreciated if you could have a look just for the purpose of article quality improvement. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228044700-331dot-20250228013300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-199" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher-February_27-20250227195300">19:53, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Hillaryasher</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: 19:53, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Hillaryasher" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-332' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250228155600-Hillaryasher-20250227195300">1 day ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hillaryasher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hillaryasher (page does not exist)">Hillaryasher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hillaryasher" title="User talk:Hillaryasher">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hillaryasher" title="Special:Contributions/Hillaryasher">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hillaryasher&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A53%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Hillaryasher">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Ari_Chambers" title="Draft:Ari Chambers">Draft:Ari Chambers</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ari_Chambers&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Ari_Chambers" title="Draft talk:Ari Chambers">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ari_Chambers&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Ari_Chambers">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ari_Chambers&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AAri+Chambers">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi - I am attempting to get a Wiki page set up for ESPN journalist, Ari Chambers, and have been having much trouble. Can you please assist with getting this page from draft to published? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hillaryasher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hillaryasher (page does not exist)">Hillaryasher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hillaryasher" title="User talk:Hillaryasher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Hillaryasher-20250227195300-19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The draft has beem rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. You have not shown that this person is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BIO">a notable person</a>. Not everyone on TV merits an article. If you later find sources that establish notability, the first step is to appeal to the rejecting reviewer directly. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227230400-Hillaryasher-20250227195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-201" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Hello, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hillaryasher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hillaryasher (page does not exist)">Hillaryasher</a>. Your use of the phrase "get a Wiki page set up for" suggests that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. A more appropriate phrase is "write an encyclopaedia article about" - remembering that the article should be based almost 100% on what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about him in reliable places, and that he and his associates will not have control of the article, and their subsequent input will be limited to making suggestions for changes. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTSOCIALMEDIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTSOCIALMEDIA">WP:NOTSOCIALMEDIA</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">OWN</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROUD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROUD">WP:PROUD</a> <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250228155600-Hillaryasher-20250227195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-202" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt-February_27-20250227195400">19:54, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Essixt</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: 19:54, 27 February 2025 review of submission by Essixt" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-333' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250227230200-Essixt-20250227195400">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Essixt" title="User:Essixt">Essixt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Essixt" title="User talk:Essixt">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Essixt" title="Special:Contributions/Essixt">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Essixt&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A54%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Essixt">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority" title="Draft:Federal Motor Transport Authority">Draft:Federal Motor Transport Authority</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority" title="Draft talk:Federal Motor Transport Authority">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Federal_Motor_Transport_Authority&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AFederal+Motor+Transport+Authority">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My submission was rejected because "it was not adequately supported by reliable sources". The submission consists of only three sections and yet contains 19 references, which are all the references that can be found on the authority and its legal basis, even with a list of the paragraphs. I don't know how I should provide further references, because there aren't any more. It is also not clear which statement is not substantiated or questionable. <a href="/wiki/User:Essixt" title="User:Essixt">Essixt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Essixt" title="User talk:Essixt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Essixt-20250227195400-19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-203" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Please see the comment left by the reviewer(underneath the decline message) which should answer your question. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227230200-Essixt-20250227195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-204" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork" data-mw-thread-id="h-22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork-February_27-20250227220600">22:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by DanielDominguezWork</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: 22:06, 27 February 2025 review of submission by DanielDominguezWork" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-334' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250227225900-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:DanielDominguezWork" title="User:DanielDominguezWork">DanielDominguezWork</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanielDominguezWork" title="User talk:DanielDominguezWork">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/DanielDominguezWork" title="Special:Contributions/DanielDominguezWork">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DanielDominguezWork&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=22%3A06%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+DanielDominguezWork">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity" title="Draft:Lambda Pi Fraternity">Draft:Lambda Pi Fraternity</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity" title="Draft talk:Lambda Pi Fraternity">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lambda_Pi_Fraternity&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ALambda+Pi+Fraternity">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello there! I’m looking for some help getting this page approved. I’ve already tried but was told I needed references outside of what Lambda Pi controls, so I’ve added those. I’d appreciate it if someone could review it and provide any suggestions. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:DanielDominguezWork" title="User:DanielDominguezWork">DanielDominguezWork</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanielDominguezWork" title="User talk:DanielDominguezWork">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600-22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-205" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Large portions of the draft article(not a "page", which has a broader meaning; an article is a page but not every page is an article) are unsourced. The main purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> say about the topic, not what it says about itself or what it considers to be its own history. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250227225900-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-206" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208" data-mw-thread-id="h-23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208-February_27-20250227233000">23:30, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.208</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: 23:30, 27 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.208" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-335' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024000-114.129.4.232-20250228020100">1 day ago</a>4 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:114.129.4.208&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:114.129.4.208 (page does not exist)">114.129.4.208</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.208&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.208 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.208" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.208">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.208&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=23%3A30%2C+27+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+114.129.4.208">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Why_is_it_not_okay%3F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Why is it not okay? (page does not exist)">Why is it not okay?</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Why_is_it_not_okay%3F&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Why_is_it_not_okay%3F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Why is it not okay? (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Why_is_it_not_okay%3F&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Why_is_it_not_okay%3F">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Why_is_it_not_okay%3F&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3AWhy+is+it+not+okay%3F">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Why is it not okay? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.208" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.208">114.129.4.208</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.208&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.208 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-114.129.4.208-20250227233000-23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-207" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I can't tell what you're talking about. As far as I can tell, this talk page comment is the only edit ever made from this IP address. Could you link to the AfC draft you want help with? <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Jlwoodwa-20250227234200-114.129.4.208-20250227233000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-208" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Draft:Kapu" title="Draft:Kapu">draft:kapu</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.232" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.232">114.129.4.232</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.232&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.232 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-114.129.4.232-20250228020100-Jlwoodwa-20250227234200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-209" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks. That submission was originally declined since it didn't demonstrate that its subject was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notable</a>, or in other words, it didn't show that Wikipedia should have an article about it. Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTPLOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTPLOT">not for lengthy in-universe descriptions of fiction</a>, unless there is significant coverage from real-world <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> to justify and contextualize such an in-depth description. When it was repeatedly submitted without responding to that issue, it was rejected – both because of those resubmissions and because it doesn't seem possible to improve this draft. If the sources don't exist, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAECOLN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAECOLN">there's nothing to be done</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024000-114.129.4.232-20250228020100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-210" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><h1 id="February_28" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_28-20250228015500">February 28</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: February 28" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247" data-mw-thread-id="h-01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247-February_28-20250228015500">01:55, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.247</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: 01:55, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.247" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-336' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024400-114.129.4.247-20250228015500">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:114.129.4.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:114.129.4.247 (page does not exist)">114.129.4.247</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.247 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.247" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.247">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.247&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=01%3A55%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+114.129.4.247">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Kapu" title="Draft:Kapu">Draft:Kapu</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kapu&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Kapu" title="Draft talk:Kapu">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kapu&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Kapu">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kapu&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AKapu">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Why not? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.247" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.247">114.129.4.247</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.247 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-114.129.4.247-20250228015500-01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-211" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Please only create one section for a draft. I have answered above. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024400-114.129.4.247-20250228015500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-212" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow" data-mw-thread-id="h-03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow-February_28-20250228032200">03:22, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Okiknowyouknow</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: 03:22, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Okiknowyouknow" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-337' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-HKLionel-20250228080300-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Okiknowyouknow" title="User:Okiknowyouknow">Okiknowyouknow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Okiknowyouknow" title="User talk:Okiknowyouknow">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Okiknowyouknow" title="Special:Contributions/Okiknowyouknow">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Okiknowyouknow&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=03%3A22%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Okiknowyouknow">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Hema_Sharma" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Hema Sharma">Draft:Hema Sharma</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hema_Sharma&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Hema_Sharma" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Hema Sharma">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hema_Sharma&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Hema_Sharma">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hema_Sharma&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AHema+Sharma">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> My draft got declined yesterday without any proper reason, also I believe it has ample for sources and it qualifies for a wikipedia article notablitiy criteria, Please properly review <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hema_Sharma">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hema_Sharma</a> then decide it is elgible or not, dont just decline every article without any proper reason. <a href="/wiki/User:Okiknowyouknow" title="User:Okiknowyouknow">Okiknowyouknow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Okiknowyouknow" title="User talk:Okiknowyouknow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200-03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-213" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I see that you have directly moved your article to mainspace. Please note that if it still doesn't meet our guidelines, usually <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability</a>, it may be proposed for deletion in the future. Cheers, it's <a href="/wiki/User:HKLionel" title="User:HKLionel">lio!</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HKLionel" title="User talk:HKLionel">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HKLionel" title="Special:Contributions/HKLionel">work</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-HKLionel-20250228080300-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-214" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_संतोषदर" data-mw-thread-id="h-03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_संतोषदर-February_28-20250228033800">03:38, 28 February 2025 review of submission by संतोषदर</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: 03:38, 28 February 2025 review of submission by संतोषदर" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-338' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bonadea-20250228055600-संतोषदर-20250228033800">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:संतोषदर (page does not exist)">संतोषदर</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0" title="User talk:संतोषदर">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0" title="Special:Contributions/संतोषदर">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=03%3A38%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mukesh_Mishra" title="Draft:Mukesh Mishra">Draft:Mukesh Mishra</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukesh_Mishra&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Mukesh_Mishra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Mukesh Mishra (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukesh_Mishra&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Mukesh_Mishra">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukesh_Mishra&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMukesh+Mishra">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> update recent notable work, please have a look on details to further Thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:संतोषदर (page does not exist)">संतोषदर</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0" title="User talk:संतोषदर">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0-20250228033800-03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-215" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Still not notable. As you know, this was deleted after a community discussion a month ago and nothing has happened since then to indicate any notability at all. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250228055600-%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0-20250228033800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-216" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234" data-mw-thread-id="h-05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234-February_28-20250228050200">05:02, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.234</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: 05:02, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 114.129.4.234" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-339' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jéské_Couriano-20250228071200-114.129.4.234-20250228050200">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:114.129.4.234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:114.129.4.234 (page does not exist)">114.129.4.234</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.234 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.234" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.234">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.234&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=05%3A02%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+114.129.4.234">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="ドラフト：カプ (page does not exist)">ドラフト：カプ</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:ドラフト：カプ (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3A%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%83%88%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> dousuruno <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/114.129.4.234" title="Special:Contributions/114.129.4.234">114.129.4.234</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:114.129.4.234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:114.129.4.234 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-114.129.4.234-20250228050200-05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-217" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>We cannot accept content in Japanese. —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250228071200-114.129.4.234-20250228050200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-218" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma" data-mw-thread-id="h-05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma-February_28-20250228055200">05:52, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Mukat lal sharma</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: 05:52, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Mukat lal sharma" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-340' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bonadea-20250228060200-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Mukat_lal_sharma" title="User:Mukat lal sharma">Mukat lal sharma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mukat_lal_sharma" title="User talk:Mukat lal sharma">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mukat_lal_sharma" title="Special:Contributions/Mukat lal sharma">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mukat_lal_sharma&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=05%3A52%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Mukat+lal+sharma">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mukat_Lal_Sharma" title="Draft:Mukat Lal Sharma">Draft:Mukat Lal Sharma</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukat_Lal_Sharma&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Mukat_Lal_Sharma&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Mukat Lal Sharma (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukat_Lal_Sharma&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Mukat_Lal_Sharma">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mukat_Lal_Sharma&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMukat+Lal+Sharma">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> tone and reliability of this page <a href="/wiki/User:Mukat_lal_sharma" title="User:Mukat lal sharma">Mukat lal sharma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mukat_lal_sharma" title="User talk:Mukat lal sharma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200-05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-219" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The draft has been generated by an AI tool, which is not acceptable for several reasons, including the fact that the tone is inappropriate. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250228060200-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-220" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667" data-mw-thread-id="h-05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667-February_28-20250228055400">05:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: 05:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Kavoshgar 1667" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-341' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228133000-Theroadislong-20250228091400">1 day ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kavoshgar_1667" title="Special:Contributions/Kavoshgar 1667">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=05%3A54%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Kavoshgar+1667">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Arash_Moayerian" title="Draft:Arash Moayerian">Draft:Arash Moayerian</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Arash_Moayerian" title="Draft talk:Arash Moayerian">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Arash_Moayerian">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Arash_Moayerian&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AArash+Moayerian">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Request for a Cold-eye Review! It would be appreciated if an experienced wikipedia member could have a cold-eye review of "Arash Moayerian" amended / revised article prior the second submission. I just need an opinion to make sure if I could meet the requirements for notability of the subject. The provided feedback from you will not be considered as any kind of approval of the article. Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400-05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-221" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a>: What is a "cold-eye review"? The way for you to get a review of the draft is to submit it for review. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250228060500-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-222" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Please don't start new sections about the same draft while your previous section is still on this page. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250228062300-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-223" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>According to GPTzero this is 100% Probability AI generated. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TNT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TNT">WP:TNT</a> and start again. <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Theroadislong-20250228091400-Bonadea-20250228062300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-224" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Does start again mean I should request for deletion of this article at first and start over? Or I am allowed rewording the existing write up based on my own writing skills. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User:Kavoshgar 1667">Kavoshgar 1667</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kavoshgar_1667" title="User talk:Kavoshgar 1667">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228133000-Theroadislong-20250228091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-225" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135" data-mw-thread-id="h-06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135-February_28-20250228065600">06:56, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 164.160.184.135</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: 06:56, 28 February 2025 review of submission by 164.160.184.135" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-342' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ColinFine-20250228160200-164.160.184.135-20250228065600">1 day ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:164.160.184.135&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:164.160.184.135 (page does not exist)">164.160.184.135</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:164.160.184.135&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:164.160.184.135 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/164.160.184.135" title="Special:Contributions/164.160.184.135">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:164.160.184.135&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=06%3A56%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+164.160.184.135">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox" title="User:Lensa Sileshi/sandbox">User:Lensa Sileshi/sandbox</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox" title="User talk:Lensa Sileshi/sandbox">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lensa_Sileshi/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ALensa+Sileshi%2Fsandbox">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> why does the article I wrote is not enough for inclusion to Wikipedia? what do I have to do to make it look like it can be included in Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/164.160.184.135" title="Special:Contributions/164.160.184.135">164.160.184.135</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:164.160.184.135&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:164.160.184.135 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-164.160.184.135-20250228065600-06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-226" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>This reads like an investment brochure. What is your connexion to the company? —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250228071100-164.160.184.135-20250228065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-227" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a>. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. <a href="/wiki/User:ColinFine" title="User:ColinFine">ColinFine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ColinFine" title="User talk:ColinFine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-ColinFine-20250228160200-164.160.184.135-20250228065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-228" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Drafts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Drafts-February_28-20250228090900">Drafts</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Drafts" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-343' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sunuraju-20250228120700-DoubleGrazing-20250228094000">1 day ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I tried so hard for add sources for my drafts include Draft:Hum Dono (2024 TV series) for sources and got rejected it by --<a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunuraju" title="User talk:Sunuraju">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Sunuraju-20250228090900-Drafts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-229" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a>: <a href="/wiki/Draft:Hum_Dono_(2024_TV_series)" title="Draft:Hum Dono (2024 TV series)">Draft:Hum Dono (2024 TV series)</a> was only declined, not rejected. 'Decline' means you can resubmit it, once you've addressed the decline reason(s). ('Reject' means the end of the road.)</dd> <dd>You don't ask a question – did you have one in mind? -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228094000-Sunuraju-20250228090900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-230" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>i tried resubmit by added sources but Decline again because it need reliable by sources <a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunuraju" title="User talk:Sunuraju">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Sunuraju-20250228120700-DoubleGrazing-20250228094000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-231" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco-February_28-20250228095400">09:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Ruth-andco</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: 09:54, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Ruth-andco" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-344' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Gheus-20250228174200-DoubleGrazing-20250228100800">23 hours ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Ruth-andco" title="User:Ruth-andco">Ruth-andco</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ruth-andco" title="User talk:Ruth-andco">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ruth-andco" title="Special:Contributions/Ruth-andco">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ruth-andco&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Valeria_Napoleone&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A54%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Ruth-andco">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Valeria_Napoleone" title="Valeria Napoleone">Valeria Napoleone</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valeria_Napoleone&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:Valeria_Napoleone" title="Talk:Valeria Napoleone">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valeria_Napoleone&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Valeria_Napoleone">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valeria_Napoleone&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3AValeria+Napoleone">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, I created this Wikipedia page yesterday, and much of the information has been taken out. Is this a formatting issue or was the information not correctly cited? I would love to keep the information from the draft and would appreciate help with this issue! Thank you, Ruth <a href="/wiki/User:Ruth-andco" title="User:Ruth-andco">Ruth-andco</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ruth-andco" title="User talk:Ruth-andco">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Ruth-andco-20250228095400-09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-232" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ruth-andco" title="User:Ruth-andco">Ruth-andco</a>: judging by the reviewer's comments, much of the content was either unreferenced or supported by primary sources. That's all I can tell you without digging into each edit in detail; I'm pinging the reviewer <a href="/wiki/User:Gheus" title="User:Gheus">Gheus</a> for any further comments they might be able to share. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228100800-Ruth-andco-20250228095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-233" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Yes, the content was removed due to a lack of independent secondary sources. I was kind enough to do a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFORE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFORE">WP:BEFORE</a> and found some references that prove Valeria's notability. @<a href="/wiki/User:Ruth-andco" title="User:Ruth-andco">Ruth-andco</a> If you want to re-add the content, then please follow <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITREQ">WP:EDITREQ</a> (since you are a paid editor) and provide reliable independent secondary sources with proper citations. An independent volunteer editor will review it. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Gheus" title="User:Gheus">Gheus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gheus" title="User talk:Gheus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Gheus-20250228174200-DoubleGrazing-20250228100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-234" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" data-mw-thread-id="h-13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_28-20250228134900">13:49, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: 13:49, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-345' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-BlooBind-20250228154600-DoubleGrazing-20250228153400">1 day ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BlooBind" title="Special:Contributions/BlooBind">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BlooBind&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=13%3A49%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+BlooBind">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie" title="Draft:Server Sundaram Movie">Draft:Server Sundaram Movie</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Server_Sundaram_Movie" title="Draft talk:Server Sundaram Movie">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AServer+Sundaram+Movie">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi, My draft was declined with the following feedback: "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are: In-depth (not just brief mentions or routine announcements) Reliable Secondary Strictly independent of the subject." Based on this feedback, I have revised my draft by improving the references and ensuring they meet these criteria. Could someone review and confirm if my changes align with the required corrections? Also, is it appropriate for me to proceed with resubmitting the draft now? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BlooBind-20250228134900-13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-235" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a>: you submitted this draft yesterday, and today it was declined. You have not made any edits to it since the decline. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228151500-BlooBind-20250228134900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-236" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> Thank you for your feedback.</dd> <dd>I have carefully selected references from established media outlets that provide in-depth coverage and analysis. Could you kindly review them again and specify which references do not meet Wikipedia’s criteria? If there are any specific issues, please let me know how I can improve them, and I will make the necessary revisions accordingly.</dd> <dd>Additionally, I noticed that there is already a Wikipedia page for this movie with different content and focus. Since my draft contains unique content, could you please clarify whether it is appropriate to create a separate page, or if I should integrate my content into the existing article?</dd> <dd>Looking forward to your response. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BlooBind-20250228152700-DoubleGrazing-20250228151500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-237" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a>: are you saying that your draft <a href="/wiki/Draft:Server_Sundaram_Movie" title="Draft:Server Sundaram Movie">Draft:Server Sundaram Movie</a> is about the same film as <a href="/wiki/Server_Sundaram_(unreleased_film)" title="Server Sundaram (unreleased film)">Server Sundaram (unreleased film)</a>? If so, then there is no point in developing your draft further, as it could not be accepted anyway; we cannot have two articles on the same subject. Please edit the published article by incorporating any salient new content from your draft (with appropriate referencing). -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228153400-BlooBind-20250228152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-238" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> Ok Got it.Thank you for your feedback. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BlooBind-20250228154600-DoubleGrazing-20250228153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-239" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider-February_28-20250228141800">14:18, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Snakebitesspider</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: 14:18, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Snakebitesspider" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-346' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228151300-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800">1 day ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Snakebitesspider&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Snakebitesspider (page does not exist)">Snakebitesspider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snakebitesspider" title="User talk:Snakebitesspider">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Snakebitesspider" title="Special:Contributions/Snakebitesspider">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snakebitesspider&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A18%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Snakebitesspider">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Spadoodaloo_Snake" title="Draft:Spadoodaloo Snake">Draft:Spadoodaloo Snake</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spadoodaloo_Snake&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Spadoodaloo_Snake" title="Draft talk:Spadoodaloo Snake">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spadoodaloo_Snake&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Spadoodaloo_Snake">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Spadoodaloo_Snake&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ASpadoodaloo+Snake">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> How can I not get rejected? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Snakebitesspider&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Snakebitesspider (page does not exist)">Snakebitesspider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snakebitesspider" title="User talk:Snakebitesspider">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800-14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-240" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Snakebitesspider&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Snakebitesspider (page does not exist)">Snakebitesspider</a>: by writing a sensible draft on a notable subject. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_for_things_made_up_one_day" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day">Wikipedia is not for things made up one day</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250228151300-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-241" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3" data-mw-thread-id="h-16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3-February_28-20250228163700">16:37, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BubbaLoja3</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: 16:37, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BubbaLoja3" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-347' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-BubbaLoja3-20250228174500-331dot-20250228174300">23 hours ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BubbaLoja3 (page does not exist)">BubbaLoja3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BubbaLoja3" title="User talk:BubbaLoja3">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BubbaLoja3" title="Special:Contributions/BubbaLoja3">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=16%3A37%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+BubbaLoja3">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Choctaw_Elemenary" title="Draft:Choctaw Elemenary">Draft:Choctaw Elemenary</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Choctaw_Elemenary&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Choctaw_Elemenary" title="Draft talk:Choctaw Elemenary">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Choctaw_Elemenary&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Choctaw_Elemenary">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Choctaw_Elemenary&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AChoctaw+Elemenary">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Why is it not notable? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BubbaLoja3 (page does not exist)">BubbaLoja3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BubbaLoja3" title="User talk:BubbaLoja3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BubbaLoja3-20250228163700-16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-242" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BubbaLoja3 (page does not exist)">BubbaLoja3</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">No sources</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">no article</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">no debate</a>. What is your connexion to the school? —<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User:Jéské Couriano">Jéské Couriano</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano" title="User talk:Jéské Couriano">v^_^v</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/AG" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jéské Couriano/AG">threads</a> <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano/Decode" title="User:Jéské Couriano/Decode">critiques</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250228170900-BubbaLoja3-20250228163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-243" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I went to that school. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BubbaLoja3 (page does not exist)">BubbaLoja3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BubbaLoja3" title="User talk:BubbaLoja3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BubbaLoja3-20250228171200-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250228170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-244" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The vast majority of schools do not merit articles; in the past existence was sufficient to merit an article, but that is no longer the case, schools are treated like any other organization, and must be shown to meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORG">WP:ORG</a>. Also see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCHOOLOUTCOMES">WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250228174300-BubbaLoja3-20250228171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-245" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Oh. I see. Thank you so much! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BubbaLoja3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BubbaLoja3 (page does not exist)">BubbaLoja3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BubbaLoja3" title="User talk:BubbaLoja3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BubbaLoja3-20250228174500-331dot-20250228174300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-246" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr" data-mw-thread-id="h-19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr-February_28-20250228190300">19:03, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Asamadbhr</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: 19:03, 28 February 2025 review of submission by Asamadbhr" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-348' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bonadea-20250228210300-Asamadbhr-20250228190300">20 hours ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Asamadbhr (page does not exist)">Asamadbhr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asamadbhr" title="User talk:Asamadbhr">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Asamadbhr" title="Special:Contributions/Asamadbhr">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Asamadbhr&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=19%3A03%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+Asamadbhr">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Asamadbhr/sandbox" title="User:Asamadbhr/sandbox">User:Asamadbhr/sandbox</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr/sandbox&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Asamadbhr/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Asamadbhr/sandbox (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr/sandbox&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Asamadbhr/sandbox">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr/sandbox&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AAsamadbhr%2Fsandbox">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I have provided reliable articles and an IMDB page link for the actress. What other articles would be required? <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Asamadbhr (page does not exist)">Asamadbhr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asamadbhr" title="User talk:Asamadbhr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Asamadbhr-20250228190300-19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-247" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Asamadbhr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Asamadbhr (page does not exist)">Asamadbhr</a>: I'm afraid IMDB is not a reliable source (explained <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IMDB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IMDB">here</a>), and nettv4u is also not reliable (explained <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICTFSOURCES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICTFSOURCES">here</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250228210300-Asamadbhr-20250228190300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-248" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" data-mw-thread-id="h-21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_28-20250228215700">21:57, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: 21:57, 28 February 2025 review of submission by BlooBind" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-349' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250228224900-BlooBind-20250228215700">18 hours ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BlooBind" title="Special:Contributions/BlooBind">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BlooBind&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=21%3A57%2C+28+February+2025+review+of+submission+by+BlooBind">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Miraaclenet_Movies" title="Draft:Miraaclenet Movies">Draft:Miraaclenet Movies</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraaclenet_Movies&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Miraaclenet_Movies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Miraaclenet Movies (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraaclenet_Movies&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Miraaclenet_Movies">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Miraaclenet_Movies&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMiraaclenet+Movies">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi Team, <pre> I have created a Wikipedia page on Miraacle Net Movies and included a reference. Can anyone review it and let me know if the page meets Wikipedia’s guidelines and if the reference is reliable? </pre> Thank you for your help! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BlooBind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BlooBind (page does not exist)">BlooBind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlooBind" title="User talk:BlooBind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-BlooBind-20250228215700-21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-249" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>You need to click the "submit your draft for review!" button on the screen to formally submit it. But, if you were to do so, it would be declined quickly, as one source is insufficient. An article must summarize multiple independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. You should have those sources first and then summarize them, not the other way around (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BACKWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BACKWARD">WP:BACKWARD</a>)</dd> <dd>If you are associated with this company, that must be disclosed, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">paid editing</a>("paid editing" includes employment). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250228224900-BlooBind-20250228215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-250" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading1 section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><h1 id="March_1" data-mw-thread-id="h-March_1-20250301012000">March 1</h1> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: March 1" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen" data-mw-thread-id="h-01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen-March_1-20250301012000">01:20, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Harlanchen</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: 01:20, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Harlanchen" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-350' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Mcmatter-20250301044100-Harlanchen-20250301012000">12 hours ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Harlanchen" title="User:Harlanchen">Harlanchen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harlanchen" title="User talk:Harlanchen">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Harlanchen" title="Special:Contributions/Harlanchen">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Harlanchen&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=01%3A20%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+Harlanchen">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Xiu_(media_server)" title="Draft:Xiu (media server)">Draft:Xiu (media server)</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xiu_(media_server)&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Xiu_(media_server)" title="Draft talk:Xiu (media server)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xiu_(media_server)&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Xiu_(media_server)">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Xiu_(media_server)&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AXiu+%28media+server%29">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> who can please kindly help me about my wikipedia <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Xiu_(media_server)%EF%BC%8C">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Xiu_(media_server)，</a> which of the following four criteria are met and which are not: <ul><li>In-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)</li> <li>Reliable</li> <li>Secondary</li> <li>Independent of the subject</li></ul> Thanks. <pre><a href="/wiki/User:Harlanchen" title="User:Harlanchen">Harlanchen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harlanchen" title="User talk:Harlanchen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Harlanchen-20250301012000-01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-251" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </pre> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Harlanchen" title="User:Harlanchen">Harlanchen</a> that’s easy none of the sources meet any of the criteria. None of them should used to support anything in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Mcmatter" title="User:Mcmatter">McMatter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mcmatter" title="User talk:Mcmatter">talk</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mcmatter" title="Special:Contributions/Mcmatter">contrib</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Mcmatter-20250301044100-Harlanchen-20250301012000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-252" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke" data-mw-thread-id="h-07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke-March_1-20250301075800">07:58, 1 March 2025 review of submission by 2facedduke</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: 07:58, 1 March 2025 review of submission by 2facedduke" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-351' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bonadea-20250301083300-2facedduke-20250301075800">8 hours ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2facedduke&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2facedduke (page does not exist)">2facedduke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2facedduke" title="User talk:2facedduke">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2facedduke" title="Special:Contributions/2facedduke">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2facedduke&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=07%3A58%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+2facedduke">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Moise_esisombe_draft&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Moise esisombe draft (page does not exist)">Draft:Moise esisombe draft</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Moise_esisombe_draft&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Moise_esisombe_draft&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Moise esisombe draft (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Moise_esisombe_draft&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Moise_esisombe_draft">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Moise_esisombe_draft&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMoise+esisombe+draft">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> I want help to publish this draft cause this kid should really be out there and im suprised this kid isn't anywhere <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2facedduke&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2facedduke (page does not exist)">2facedduke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2facedduke" title="User talk:2facedduke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-2facedduke-20250301075800-07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-253" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2facedduke&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2facedduke (page does not exist)">2facedduke</a>: Both drafts you created about this person have been deleted. Wikipedia is not a place to write about every person who exists. It is also not a place to post made-up information (and frankly, falso information should not be published anywhere), and text generated by ChatGPT or other AI tools is forbidden here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250301083300-2facedduke-20250301075800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-254" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju" data-mw-thread-id="h-09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju-March_1-20250301092800">09:28, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Sunuraju</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: 09:28, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Sunuraju" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-352' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sunuraju-20250301095400-DoubleGrazing-20250301094000">7 hours ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunuraju" title="User talk:Sunuraju">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sunuraju" title="Special:Contributions/Sunuraju">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sunuraju&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=09%3A28%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+Sunuraju">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin" title="Draft:Mujhe Qabool Nahin">Draft:Mujhe Qabool Nahin</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin" title="Draft talk:Mujhe Qabool Nahin">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mujhe_Qabool_Nahin&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMujhe+Qabool+Nahin">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> i need relibale sources for my draft and i need help <a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunuraju" title="User talk:Sunuraju">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Sunuraju-20250301092800-09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-255" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a>: please be more specific, what help do you need? We don't research sources for you, that's your job as the draft author; nor do we get involved in co-editing. -- <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">DoubleGrazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoubleGrazing" title="User talk:DoubleGrazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-DoubleGrazing-20250301094000-Sunuraju-20250301092800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-256" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>because my draft of Mujhe Qabool Nahin has social themes like toxic marriage and family i submit the draft twice to moved to main artcile and i had grammar issues by <a href="/wiki/User:Sunuraju" title="User:Sunuraju">Sunuraju</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunuraju" title="User talk:Sunuraju">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Sunuraju-20250301095400-DoubleGrazing-20250301094000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-257" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo" data-mw-thread-id="h-12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo-March_1-20250301123300">12:33, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Caterina Lo</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: 12:33, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Caterina Lo" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-353' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Cl3phact0-20250301152800-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300">1 hour ago</a>4 comments4 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Caterina_Lo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Caterina Lo (page does not exist)">Caterina Lo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Caterina_Lo" title="User talk:Caterina Lo">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Caterina_Lo" title="Special:Contributions/Caterina Lo">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caterina_Lo&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=12%3A33%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+Caterina+Lo">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo" title="Draft:Patrizio di Massimo">Draft:Patrizio di Massimo</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Patrizio_di_Massimo" title="Draft talk:Patrizio di Massimo">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3APatrizio+di+Massimo">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hello, I’m still waiting for my submission on <a href="/wiki/Draft:Patrizio_di_Massimo" title="Draft:Patrizio di Massimo">Draft: Patrizio di Massimo</a> to be reviewed. It was previously declined, but I have made substantial changes. I’m wondering why it has not been reviewed yet. Could someone help me by either improving the page if further changes are needed or approving it if it meets the requirements? I’d really appreciate any guidance. Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Caterina_Lo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Caterina Lo (page does not exist)">Caterina Lo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Caterina_Lo" title="User talk:Caterina Lo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300-12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-258" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Caterina_Lo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Caterina Lo (page does not exist)">Caterina Lo</a>: As long as there is a yellow "Review waiting, please be patient" notice on the draft, you can feel sure that it is going to be reviewed. What none of us can know is when the review will happen, because drafts are not reviewed in any particular order. Regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250301123700-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-259" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Caterina_Lo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Caterina Lo (page does not exist)">Caterina Lo</a> As noted on your draft, "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,501 pending submissions waiting for review". Reviews are conducted by volunteers, doing what they can when they can, in no particular order. Please be patient. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301123800-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-260" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>A quick look at your article indicates (to me) that the subject is probably <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NBIO">WP:NBIO</a> and the short draft is nearly ready for mainspace, probably as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STUB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STUB">WP:STUB</a>. The wikitable at the top is slightly odd (again, to my eye). Normally one would use either <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_person" title="Template:Infobox person">Template:Infobox person</a> or <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_artist" title="Template:Infobox artist">Template:Infobox artist</a> for what I believe you are trying to achieve. We also have lists of articles such as <a href="/wiki/Category:Italian_painters_by_century" title="Category:Italian painters by century">Italian painters by century</a> or <a href="/wiki/Category:21st-century_Italian_artists" title="Category:21st-century Italian artists">21st-century Italian artists</a> that might be useful if you are looking for well written and formatted models upon which your article can be built (people like <a href="/wiki/Lucio_Fontana" title="Lucio Fontana">Lucio Fontana</a> or <a href="/wiki/Piero_Manzoni" title="Piero Manzoni">Piero Manzoni</a> come to mind – although I have not checked these in detail). Also, as your account is quite new and it looks like this is your first (and only) article, please be sure to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Cl3phact0" title="User:Cl3phact0">Cl3phact0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cl3phact0" title="User talk:Cl3phact0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Cl3phact0-20250301152800-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-261" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta-March_1-20250301140100">14:01, 1 March 2025 review of submission by KuturankiAuta</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: 14:01, 1 March 2025 review of submission by KuturankiAuta" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-354' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250301153200-KuturankiAuta-20250301145700">1 hour ago</a>9 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/KuturankiAuta" title="Special:Contributions/KuturankiAuta">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A01%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+KuturankiAuta">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Dr. Emmanuel Audu Gye">Draft:Dr. Emmanuel Audu Gye</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Dr. Emmanuel Audu Gye">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Dr._Emmanuel_Audu_Gye&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ADr.+Emmanuel+Audu+Gye">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> i really need this content approved. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-KuturankiAuta-20250301140100-14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-262" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a>: Why do you "need" it to be approved? It has been declined with a request for you to cite sources; a biographical draft article that has no inline citations will not be approved. You will need to work on the tone as well, since it is promotionally written. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bonadea" title="User:Bonadea">bonadea</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bonadea" title="Special:Contributions/Bonadea">contributions</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bonadea" title="User talk:Bonadea">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Bonadea-20250301140600-KuturankiAuta-20250301140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-263" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>yes, i think i am just bad at doing this because i have gone through the learning process.. i have added references, i dont know how cite sources and i have gone to the learning page and i have tried it but it still didnt work.. i might just not know how to do it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-KuturankiAuta-20250301141200-Bonadea-20250301140600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-264" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>What is the source of your "need" for this to be accepted? <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301142200-KuturankiAuta-20250301141200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-265" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>It is for a scholarship application. if i did not answer the question correctly, can you please rephrase it. thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-KuturankiAuta-20250301143100-331dot-20250301142200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-266" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Is that your choice, or something required by those offering the scholarship? If it's required, that is an extremely unfair requirement for you, as you have little control over the process. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>You wrote in the draft that it is based on an interview; interviews do not establish notability, as by definition that is the person speaking about themselves. Wikipedia wants to know what independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> say about the person, not what they say about themselves. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301143900-KuturankiAuta-20250301143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-267" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I also told a friend that the requirement was not fair... your input is really helpful.. i will rewrite it and submit again. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-KuturankiAuta-20250301144200-331dot-20250301143900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-268" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>can i rewrite it and share with you to look at it before i submit? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KuturankiAuta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KuturankiAuta (page does not exist)">KuturankiAuta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KuturankiAuta" title="User talk:KuturankiAuta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-KuturankiAuta-20250301145700-KuturankiAuta-20250301144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-269" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>You are welcome to edit and resubmit the draft again. However, we cannot guarantee a speedy review to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEADLINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEADLINE">accomodate any deadlines you are under</a>(one of the many reasons the requirement imposed on you is unfair). <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301153200-KuturankiAuta-20250301145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-270" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie-March_1-20250301145700">14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: 14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-355' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-331dot-20250301153400-Alephjamie-20250301145700">1 hour ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Alephjamie" title="User:Alephjamie">Alephjamie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alephjamie" title="User talk:Alephjamie">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alephjamie" title="Special:Contributions/Alephjamie">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alephjamie&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A57%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+Alephjamie">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam" title="Draft:Mar Thoma Syrian Theological Seminary, Kottayam">Draft:Mar Thoma Syrian Theological Seminary, Kottayam</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam" title="Draft talk:Mar Thoma Syrian Theological Seminary, Kottayam">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Theological_Seminary,_Kottayam&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AMar+Thoma+Syrian+Theological+Seminary%2C+Kottayam">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi Taabi, I hope you are well. I am writing to seek clarification regarding the rejection of two articles on two of India's oldest and most significant theological seminaries. I have carefully reviewed the references provided and ensured that they meet Wikipedia’s guidelines for verifiability and reliability. I would appreciate your guidance on the specific concerns that led to the rejection. Upon comparison with existing Wikipedia entries on theological institutions, such as UTC Bangalore and SAIACS, I have noticed that these pages contain fewer and less diverse references than those I have included. My intention is to contribute to the comprehensive documentation of India's historic Christian seminaries, following the precedent set by Wikipedia pages on similar institutions in Europe and the United States. Could you kindly indicate any areas where the articles require improvement to meet Wikipedia’s editorial standards? I am happy to make any necessary revisions to ensure compliance with Wikipedia’s content policies. I look forward to your response. <a href="/wiki/User:Alephjamie" title="User:Alephjamie">Alephjamie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alephjamie" title="User talk:Alephjamie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Alephjamie-20250301145700-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-271" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>If you are attempting to address the reviewer Taabi, it's best for you to address them on their user talk page directly, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taabii" title="User talk:Taabii">User talk:Taabii</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-331dot-20250301153400-Alephjamie-20250301145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-272" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2-March_1-20250301145700">14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: 14:57, 1 March 2025 review of submission by Alephjamie" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-356' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Alephjamie-20250301145700-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2">2 hours ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Alephjamie" title="User:Alephjamie">Alephjamie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alephjamie" title="User talk:Alephjamie">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alephjamie" title="Special:Contributions/Alephjamie">contribs</a>) (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alephjamie&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=14%3A57%2C+1+March+2025+review+of+submission+by+Alephjamie">TB</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"> <li><a href="/wiki/Draft:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary" title="Draft:India Bible College & Seminary">Draft:India Bible College & Seminary</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary" title="Draft talk:India Bible College & Seminary">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:India_Bible_College_%26_Seminary&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AIndia+Bible+College+%26%2338%3B+Seminary">logs</a>)</li></ul></li></ul> Hi Taabi, I hope you are well. I am writing to seek clarification regarding the rejection of two articles on two of India's oldest and most significant theological seminaries. I have carefully reviewed the references provided and ensured that they meet Wikipedia’s guidelines for verifiability and reliability. I would appreciate your guidance on the specific concerns that led to the rejection. Upon comparison with existing Wikipedia entries on theological institutions, such as UTC Bangalore and SAIACS, I have noticed that these pages contain fewer and less diverse references than those I have included. My intention is to contribute to the comprehensive documentation of India's historic Christian seminaries, following the precedent set by Wikipedia pages on similar institutions in Europe and the United States. Could you kindly indicate any areas where the articles require improvement to meet Wikipedia’s editorial standards? I am happy to make any necessary revisions to ensure compliance with Wikipedia’s content policies. I look forward to your response. <a href="/wiki/User:Alephjamie" title="User:Alephjamie">Alephjamie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alephjamie" title="User talk:Alephjamie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#c-Alephjamie-20250301145700-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-273" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a>    </section></div> <noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=mobile&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-new-topic"><span data-event-name='talkpage.add-topic' id='ooui-php-357' class='ext-discussiontools-init-new-topic-button oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-framed oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-flaggedElement-primary oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","href":"\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation\/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new","rel":["nofollow"],"icon":"speechBubbleAdd","label":"Add topic","flags":["progressive","primary"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-new-topic-button"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' href='/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'>Add topic</a></div> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&oldid=1278295249">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&oldid=1278295249</a>"</div></div> </div> <div class="post-content" id="page-secondary-actions"> </div> </main> <footer class="mw-footer minerva-footer" role="contentinfo"> <a class="last-modified-bar" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=history"> <div class="post-content last-modified-bar__content"> Last edited on 1 March 2025, at 16:28 </div> </a> <div class="post-content footer-content"> <div id="p-lang"> <h4>Languages</h4> <section> <ul id="p-variants" class="minerva-languages"></ul> <ul class="minerva-languages"><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%B1%D9%88%DA%98%D9%87_%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%AF/%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%B2_%DA%A9%D9%85%DA%A9" title="ویکی‌پدیا:ویکی‌پروژه مقاله‌ها برای ایجاد/میز کمک – Persian" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:ویکی‌پروژه مقاله‌ها برای ایجاد/میز کمک" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persian" class="interlanguage-link-target">فارسی</a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sl mw-list-item"><a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:%C4%8Clanki_za_ustvaritev/Forum_za_pomo%C4%8D" title="Wikipedija:Članki za ustvaritev/Forum za pomoč – Slovenian" lang="sl" hreflang="sl" data-title="Wikipedija:Članki za ustvaritev/Forum za pomoč" data-language-autonym="Slovenščina" data-language-local-name="Slovenian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Slovenščina</a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiProject:%E5%BB%BA%E7%AB%8B%E6%A2%9D%E7%9B%AE/%E8%A9%A2%E5%95%8F%E6%A1%8C" title="WikiProject:建立條目/詢問桌 – Chinese" lang="zh" hreflang="zh" data-title="WikiProject:建立條目/詢問桌" data-language-autonym="中文" data-language-local-name="Chinese" class="interlanguage-link-target">中文</a></li></ul> </section> </div> <div class="minerva-footer-logo"><img src="/static/images/mobile/copyright/wikipedia-wordmark-en.svg" alt="Wikipedia" width="120" height="18" style="width: 7.5em; height: 1.125em;"/> </div> <ul id="footer-info" class="footer-info hlist hlist-separated"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 1 March 2025, at 16:28 (UTC).</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Content is available under <a class="external" rel="nofollow" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">CC BY-SA 4.0</a> unless otherwise noted.</li> </ul> <ul id="footer-places" class="footer-places hlist hlist-separated"> <li id="footer-places-privacy"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Privacy_policy">Privacy policy</a></li> <li id="footer-places-about"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:About">About Wikipedia</a></li> <li id="footer-places-disclaimers"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer">Disclaimers</a></li> <li id="footer-places-contact"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us">Contact Wikipedia</a></li> <li id="footer-places-wm-codeofconduct"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct">Code of Conduct</a></li> <li id="footer-places-developers"><a href="https://developer.wikimedia.org">Developers</a></li> <li id="footer-places-statslink"><a href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org">Statistics</a></li> <li id="footer-places-cookiestatement"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Cookie_statement">Cookie statement</a></li> <li id="footer-places-terms-use"><a href="https://foundation.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Terms_of_Use">Terms of Use</a></li> <li id="footer-places-desktop-toggle"><a id="mw-mf-display-toggle" href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop" data-event-name="switch_to_desktop">Desktop</a></li> </ul> </div> </footer> </div> </div> <div class="mw-notification-area" data-mw="interface"></div>  <script>(RLQ=window.RLQ||[]).push(function(){mw.config.set({"wgHostname":"mw-web.codfw.main-64b5bb4b79-qb6lp","wgBackendResponseTime":569,"wgDiscussionToolsPageThreads":[{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-Армен_Меликян-20250223070100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_23-20250223070100","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Армен_Меликян-20250223070100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Армен_Меликян-February_23-20250223070100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223070100","author":"Армен Меликян","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Армен_Меликян-20250223070100-07:01,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Армен_Меликян","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223070500","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250223070500-Армен_Меликян-20250223070100","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Truth_Layer_123-20250223093800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123-February_23-20250223093800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223093800","author":"Truth Layer 123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Truth_Layer_123-20250223093800-09:38,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Truth_Layer_123","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223094300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223094300-Truth_Layer_123-20250223093800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223095100","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250223095100-331dot-20250223094300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223104800","author":"Truth Layer 123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Truth_Layer_123-20250223104800-DoubleGrazing-20250223095100","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sainter5-20250223094800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5-February_23-20250223094800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223094800","author":"Sainter5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sainter5-20250223094800-09:48,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sainter5","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223095200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223095200-Sainter5-20250223094800","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250223095300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223095300-Sainter5-20250223094800","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia-February_23-20250223100700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223100700","author":"AP of Euranasia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700-10:07,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AP_of_Euranasia","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223101000","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250223101000-AP_of_Euranasia-20250223100700","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Drego82-20250223124300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82-February_23-20250223124300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223124300","author":"Drego82","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drego82-20250223124300-12:43,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drego82","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223132700","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223132700-Drego82-20250223124300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Drinfio-20250223124900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio-February_23-20250223124900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223124900","author":"Drinfio","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drinfio-20250223124900-12:49,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Drinfio","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223132800","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223132800-Drinfio-20250223124900","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:731-February_23-20250223131300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223131300","author":"2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300-13:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:731","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223133000","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223133000-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250223133100","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223133100-2402:E280:3D7A:359:E546:3C80:7319:20B2-20250223131300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223133300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-331dot-20250223133300-331dot-20250223133100","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999-February_23-20250223140300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223140300","author":"Scottlinehan1999","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300-14:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Scottlinehan1999","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223153500","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223153500-Scottlinehan1999-20250223140300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Get_out_333-20250223181300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333-February_23-20250223181300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223181300","author":"Get out 333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Get_out_333-20250223181300-18:13,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Get_out_333","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223181800","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250223181800-Get_out_333-20250223181300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90-February_23-20250223184700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223184700","author":"2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700-18:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223194000","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250223194000-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250223200400","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250223200400-2806:2F0:8100:18C3:B8E8:FD6:7F90:557C-20250223184700","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Viv2505-20250223220300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505-February_23-20250223220300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223220300","author":"Viv2505","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Viv2505-20250223220300-22:03,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Viv2505","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223220500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250223220500-Viv2505-20250223220300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995-February_23-20250223223200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223223200","author":"Las-Giddy 1995","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200-22:32,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Las-Giddy_1995","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223235200","author":"Thehistorianisaac","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235200-Las-Giddy_1995-20250223223200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2.66.51.235-20250223224700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235-February_23-20250223224700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223224700","author":"2.66.51.235","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2.66.51.235-20250223224700-22:47,_23_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2.66.51.235","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250223235000","author":"Thehistorianisaac","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235000-2.66.51.235-20250223224700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224093500","author":"Cullen328","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cullen328-20250224093500-Thehistorianisaac-20250223235000","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-Thetradings-20250224001700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_24-20250224001700","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Thetradings-20250224001700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings-February_24-20250224001700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224001700","author":"Thetradings","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thetradings-20250224001700-00:17,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Thetradings","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224005800","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250224005800-Thetradings-20250224001700","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc-February_24-20250224003300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224003300","author":"Mateo Inc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300-00:33,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mateo_Inc","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224011300","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250224011300-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300","replies":[],"displayName":"it's lio!"},{"timestamp":"20250224110000","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250224110000-Mateo_Inc-20250224003300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aami.jiarul-20250224071300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul-February_24-20250224071300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224071300","author":"Aami.jiarul","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aami.jiarul-20250224071300-07:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Aami.jiarul","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224071400","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224071400-Aami.jiarul-20250224071300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224071700","author":"Aami.jiarul","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700-Jéské_Couriano-20250224071400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224072100","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224072100-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224072500","author":"Aami.jiarul","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500-Jéské_Couriano-20250224072100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224073000","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250224073000-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500","replies":[],"displayName":"it's lio!"},{"timestamp":"20250224084400","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-331dot-20250224084400-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224084500","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-331dot-20250224084500-Aami.jiarul-20250224072500","replies":[]}]}]},{"timestamp":"20250224100200","author":"Thehistorianisaac","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Thehistorianisaac-20250224100200-Aami.jiarul-20250224071700","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kalingad-20250224120600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad-February_24-20250224120600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224120600","author":"Kalingad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kalingad-20250224120600-12:06,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kalingad","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224120800","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250224120800-Kalingad-20250224120600","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224143300","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250224143300-Kalingad-20250224120600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224151600","author":"Kalingad","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kalingad-20250224151600-ColinFine-20250224143300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224163500","author":"CoffeeCrumbs","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-CoffeeCrumbs-20250224163500-Kalingad-20250224151600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224192100","author":"Kalingad","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kalingad-20250224192100-CoffeeCrumbs-20250224163500","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fibip-20250224132500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip-February_24-20250224132500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224132500","author":"Fibip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fibip-20250224132500-13:25,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Fibip","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224134500","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500-Fibip-20250224132500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224154200","author":"Cl3phact0","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cl3phact0-20250224154200-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224155200","author":"Cl3phact0","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cl3phact0-20250224155200-DoubleGrazing-20250224134500","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-27four-20250224151900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four-February_24-20250224151900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224151900","author":"27four","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-27four-20250224151900-15:19,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_27four","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224152200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250224152200-27four-20250224151900","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-220.233.199.163-20250224161300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163-February_24-20250224161300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224161300","author":"220.233.199.163","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-220.233.199.163-20250224161300-16:13,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_220.233.199.163","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224161700","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250224161700-220.233.199.163-20250224161300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224161900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250224161900-220.233.199.163-20250224161300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ismatzein-20250224165700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein-February_24-20250224165700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224165700","author":"Ismatzein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ismatzein-20250224165700-16:57,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ismatzein","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224170000","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224170000-Ismatzein-20250224165700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224172000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250224172000-Jéské_Couriano-20250224170000","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Leo2324-20250224191600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324-February_24-20250224191600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224191600","author":"Leo2324","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Leo2324-20250224191600-19:16,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Leo2324","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224200700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250224200700-Leo2324-20250224191600","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224212200","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250224212200-Leo2324-20250224191600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225165200","author":"Leo2324","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Leo2324-20250225165200-ColinFine-20250224212200","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-158.93.6.52-20250224195900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52-February_24-20250224195900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224195900","author":"158.93.6.52","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-158.93.6.52-20250224195900-19:59,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_158.93.6.52","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224201100","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250224201100-158.93.6.52-20250224195900","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250224201400","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250224201400-158.93.6.52-20250224195900","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Userpy4567-20250224201400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567-February_24-20250224201400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224201400","author":"Userpy4567","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Userpy4567-20250224201400-20:14,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Userpy4567","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224202700","author":"Mcmatter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mcmatter-20250224202700-Userpy4567-20250224201400","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-50.86.96.187-20250224202000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187-February_24-20250224202000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224202000","author":"50.86.96.187","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.86.96.187-20250224202000-20:20,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_50.86.96.187","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224211200","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224211200-50.86.96.187-20250224202000","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TRusso78-20250224205500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78-February_24-20250224205500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224205500","author":"TRusso78","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TRusso78-20250224205500-20:55,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_TRusso78","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224211500","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250224211500-TRusso78-20250224205500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301160800","author":"TRusso78","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TRusso78-20250301160800-Jéské_Couriano-20250224211500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301162700","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250301162700-TRusso78-20250301160800","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250301162800","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250301162800-TRusso78-20250301160800","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C-February_24-20250224224000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224224000","author":"2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000-22:40,_24_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224225200","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250224225200-2600:1702:5730:22A0:4D27:7A21:5C2F:300E-20250224224000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250224225500","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250224225500-ColinFine-20250224225200","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-SantiagoM123-20250225055200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_25-20250225055200","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SantiagoM123-20250225055200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123-February_25-20250225055200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225055200","author":"SantiagoM123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SantiagoM123-20250225055200-05:52,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SantiagoM123","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225064900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250225064900-SantiagoM123-20250225055200","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250225103000","author":"Thehistorianisaac","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thehistorianisaac-20250225103000-SantiagoM123-20250225055200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MH-wiki2025-20250225123300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025-February_25-20250225123300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225123300","author":"MH-wiki2025","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MH-wiki2025-20250225123300-12:33,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225125900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250225125900-MH-wiki2025-20250225123300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225132900","author":"MH-wiki2025","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MH-wiki2025-20250225132900-DoubleGrazing-20250225125900","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DarthDajic-20250225134500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic-February_25-20250225134500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225134500","author":"DarthDajic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DarthDajic-20250225134500-13:45,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DarthDajic","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225140800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250225140800-DarthDajic-20250225134500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225150500","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250225150500-Theroadislong-20250225140800","replies":[],"displayName":"it's lio!"}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ס.ג'יבלי-20250225135800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ס.ג'יבלי-February_25-20250225135800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225135800","author":"ס.ג'יבלי","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ס.ג'יבלי-20250225135800-13:58,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ס.ג'יבלי","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225150900","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250225150900-ס.ג'יבלי-20250225135800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225151800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250225151800-HKLionel-20250225150900","replies":[]}],"displayName":"it's lio!"}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia-February_25-20250225160300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225160300","author":"RajputHistoryIndia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300-16:03,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RajputHistoryIndia","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225160800","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250225160800-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250225185700","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250225185700-RajputHistoryIndia-20250225160300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Albieabbiati-20250225163400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati-February_25-20250225163400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225163400","author":"Albieabbiati","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Albieabbiati-20250225163400-16:34,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Albieabbiati","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225163800","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250225163800-Albieabbiati-20250225163400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225164500","author":"Albieabbiati","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Albieabbiati-20250225164500-Jéské_Couriano-20250225163800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225164900","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250225164900-Albieabbiati-20250225164500","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250225190300","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250225190300-Albieabbiati-20250225164500","replies":[]}]}]},{"timestamp":"20250225200800","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250225200800-Albieabbiati-20250225163400","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BlooBind-20250225171200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_25-20250225171200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225171200","author":"BlooBind","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BlooBind-20250225171200-17:12,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225171500","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20250225171500-BlooBind-20250225171200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225171700","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250225171700-Qcne-20250225171500","replies":[]}]},{"timestamp":"20250225200400","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250225200400-BlooBind-20250225171200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wznbfc-20250225194700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc-February_25-20250225194700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225194700","author":"Wznbfc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wznbfc-20250225194700-19:47,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Wznbfc","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225200200","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250225200200-Wznbfc-20250225194700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225205800","author":"Wznbfc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wznbfc-20250225205800-DoubleGrazing-20250225200200","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AladdinSustain-20250225214800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain-February_25-20250225214800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225214800","author":"AladdinSustain","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AladdinSustain-20250225214800-21:48,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_AladdinSustain","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225220200","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250225220200-AladdinSustain-20250225214800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225220800","author":"AladdinSustain","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AladdinSustain-20250225220800-Jéské_Couriano-20250225220200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225224200","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200-AladdinSustain-20250225220800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225232100","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250225232100-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226012000","author":"AladdinSustain","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-AladdinSustain-20250226012000-ColinFine-20250225232100","replies":[]}]},{"timestamp":"20250226011900","author":"AladdinSustain","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-AladdinSustain-20250226011900-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-B52_strato-20250225220900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato-February_25-20250225220900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225220900","author":"B52 strato","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B52_strato-20250225220900-22:09,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_B52_strato","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225224200","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200-B52_strato-20250225220900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226170200","author":"B52 strato","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-B52_strato-20250226170200-Jéské_Couriano-20250225224200","replies":[]}]},{"timestamp":"20250225232300","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250225232300-B52_strato-20250225220900","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ScreenSage-20250225223100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage-February_25-20250225223100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225223100","author":"ScreenSage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ScreenSage-20250225223100-22:31,_25_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ScreenSage","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250225233400","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250225233400-ScreenSage-20250225223100","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250226024300","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250226024300-ScreenSage-20250225223100","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-DaniKro-20250226091200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_26-20250226091200","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DaniKro-20250226091200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro-February_26-20250226091200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226091200","author":"DaniKro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DaniKro-20250226091200-09:12,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DaniKro","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226092200","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250226092200-DaniKro-20250226091200","replies":[],"displayName":"lio!"},{"timestamp":"20250226092600","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250226092600-DaniKro-20250226091200","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250226160900","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250226160900-DaniKro-20250226091200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-46.246.135.161-20250226091900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161-February_26-20250226091900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226091900","author":"46.246.135.161","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-46.246.135.161-20250226091900-09:19,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_46.246.135.161","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226092300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250226092300-46.246.135.161-20250226091900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226174800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250226174800-331dot-20250226092300","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Toblerone101-20250226103700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101-February_26-20250226103700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226103700","author":"Toblerone101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Toblerone101-20250226103700-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226105700","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250226105700-Toblerone101-20250226103700","replies":[]}],"displayName":"TobyB"},{"timestamp":"20250226111900","author":"Toblerone101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Toblerone101-20250226111900-10:37,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Toblerone101","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226120100","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250226120100-Toblerone101-20250226111900","replies":[]}],"displayName":"TobyB"}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226103800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison-February_26-20250226103800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226103800","author":"RobbieIanMorrison","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226103800-10:38,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_RobbieIanMorrison","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226105000","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250226105000-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226103800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226111000","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226111000-331dot-20250226105000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226115900","author":"RobbieIanMorrison","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226115900-DoubleGrazing-20250226111000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226120800","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226120800-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226115900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226140400","author":"RobbieIanMorrison","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226140400-DoubleGrazing-20250226120800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226153800","author":"RobbieIanMorrison","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226153800-RobbieIanMorrison-20250226140400","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Queenday23-20250226132100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23-February_26-20250226132100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226132100","author":"Queenday23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Queenday23-20250226132100-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226133900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226133900-Queenday23-20250226132100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226134800","author":"Queenday23","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Queenday23-20250226134800-DoubleGrazing-20250226133900","replies":[]}]}]},{"timestamp":"20250226160300","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250226160300-13:21,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Queenday23","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226161200","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226161200-Bonadea-20250226160300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250227100000","author":"Queenday23","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Queenday23-20250227100000-Bonadea-20250226160300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025-February_26-20250226134000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226134000","author":"MH-wiki2025","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000-13:40,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MH-wiki2025","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226150500","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226150500-MH-wiki2025-20250226134000","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Abduddaher-20250226144400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher-February_26-20250226144400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226144400","author":"Abduddaher","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abduddaher-20250226144400-14:44,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Abduddaher","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226145900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250226145900-Abduddaher-20250226144400","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-115.96.219.247-20250226174300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247-February_26-20250226174300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226174300","author":"115.96.219.247","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-115.96.219.247-20250226174300-17:43,_26_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.96.219.247","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250226174900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250226174900-115.96.219.247-20250226174300","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_27-20250227003100","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11-February_27-20250227003100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227003100","author":"Theconnorrossfangirl11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100-00:31,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Theconnorrossfangirl11","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227011100","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250227011100-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250227062600","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250227062600-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227003100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227193600","author":"Theconnorrossfangirl11","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theconnorrossfangirl11-20250227193600-Bonadea-20250227062600","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mohshinhm-20250227012000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm-February_27-20250227012000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227012000","author":"Mohshinhm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mohshinhm-20250227012000-01:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mohshinhm","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227012300","author":"Mohshinhm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mohshinhm-20250227012300-Mohshinhm-20250227012000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227034200","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250227034200-Mohshinhm-20250227012300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228065600","author":"Mohshinhm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mohshinhm-20250228065600-CNMall41-20250227034200","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MikeatVans-20250227054200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans-February_27-20250227054200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227054200","author":"MikeatVans","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MikeatVans-20250227054200-05:42,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MikeatVans","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227061700","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250227061700-MikeatVans-20250227054200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227095000","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-CNMall41-20250227095000-HKLionel-20250227061700","replies":[]}],"displayName":"lio!"}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-115.131.47.35-20250227091300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35-February_27-20250227091300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227091300","author":"115.131.47.35","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-115.131.47.35-20250227091300-09:13,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_115.131.47.35","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227091500","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227091500-115.131.47.35-20250227091300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-February_27-20250227104900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227104900","author":"ChrisN at The Student Room","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900-10:49,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227105200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227105200-ChrisN_at_The_Student_Room-20250227104900","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Acakebread-20250227132000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread-February_27-20250227132000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227132000","author":"Acakebread","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acakebread-20250227132000-13:20,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Acakebread","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227132400","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227132400-Acakebread-20250227132000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227132900","author":"Acakebread","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Acakebread-20250227132900-DoubleGrazing-20250227132400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227133200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250227133200-Acakebread-20250227132900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227133700","author":"Acakebread","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Acakebread-20250227133700-331dot-20250227133200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227134000","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227134000-Acakebread-20250227133700","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SapphireBandit-20250227145900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit-February_27-20250227145900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227145900","author":"SapphireBandit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SapphireBandit-20250227145900-14:59,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_SapphireBandit","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227154800","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227154800-SapphireBandit-20250227145900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227175900","author":"SapphireBandit","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-SapphireBandit-20250227175900-DoubleGrazing-20250227154800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301051400","author":"StartGrammarTime","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-StartGrammarTime-20250301051400-SapphireBandit-20250227175900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301064900","author":"SapphireBandit","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-SapphireBandit-20250301064900-StartGrammarTime-20250301051400","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1-February_27-20250227150600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227150600","author":"Riteshkumarjee1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600-15:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Riteshkumarjee1","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227154000","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250227154000-Riteshkumarjee1-20250227150600","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GearNerd-20250227154100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd-February_27-20250227154100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227154100","author":"GearNerd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GearNerd-20250227154100-15:41,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_GearNerd","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227165700","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227165700-GearNerd-20250227154100","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula-February_27-20250227154600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227154600","author":"Yogeshsitoula","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600-15:46,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Yogeshsitoula","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227154900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227154900-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250227162500","author":"Jorkalash","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jorkalash-20250227162500-Yogeshsitoula-20250227154600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227164200","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200-Jorkalash-20250227162500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227164500","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164500-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250227165000","author":"Jorkalash","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jorkalash-20250227165000-DoubleGrazing-20250227164200","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN-February_27-20250227162300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227162300","author":"MicronationUCCN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300-16:23,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_MicronationUCCN","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227164800","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250227164800-MicronationUCCN-20250227162300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kavoshgar_1667-20250227184400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667-February_27-20250227184400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227184400","author":"Kavoshgar 1667","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250227184400-18:44,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227230600","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227230600-Kavoshgar_1667-20250227184400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228011300","author":"Kavoshgar 1667","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228011300-331dot-20250227230600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228013300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250228013300-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228011300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228044700","author":"Kavoshgar 1667","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228044700-331dot-20250228013300","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hillaryasher-20250227195300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher-February_27-20250227195300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227195300","author":"Hillaryasher","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillaryasher-20250227195300-19:53,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Hillaryasher","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227230400","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227230400-Hillaryasher-20250227195300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250228155600","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250228155600-Hillaryasher-20250227195300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Essixt-20250227195400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt-February_27-20250227195400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227195400","author":"Essixt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Essixt-20250227195400-19:54,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Essixt","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227230200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227230200-Essixt-20250227195400","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork-February_27-20250227220600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227220600","author":"DanielDominguezWork","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600-22:06,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_DanielDominguezWork","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227225900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250227225900-DanielDominguezWork-20250227220600","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-114.129.4.208-20250227233000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208-February_27-20250227233000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227233000","author":"114.129.4.208","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.129.4.208-20250227233000-23:30,_27_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.208","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250227234200","author":"Jlwoodwa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jlwoodwa-20250227234200-114.129.4.208-20250227233000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228020100","author":"114.129.4.232","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-114.129.4.232-20250228020100-Jlwoodwa-20250227234200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228024000","author":"Jlwoodwa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024000-114.129.4.232-20250228020100","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-114.129.4.247-20250228015500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-February_28-20250228015500","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-114.129.4.247-20250228015500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247-February_28-20250228015500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228015500","author":"114.129.4.247","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.129.4.247-20250228015500-01:55,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.247","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228024400","author":"Jlwoodwa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jlwoodwa-20250228024400-114.129.4.247-20250228015500","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow-February_28-20250228032200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228032200","author":"Okiknowyouknow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200-03:22,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Okiknowyouknow","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228080300","author":"HKLionel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HKLionel-20250228080300-Okiknowyouknow-20250228032200","replies":[],"displayName":"lio!"}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-संतोषदर-20250228033800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_संतोषदर-February_28-20250228033800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228033800","author":"संतोषदर","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-संतोषदर-20250228033800-03:38,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_संतोषदर","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228055600","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250228055600-संतोषदर-20250228033800","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-114.129.4.234-20250228050200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234-February_28-20250228050200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228050200","author":"114.129.4.234","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.129.4.234-20250228050200-05:02,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_114.129.4.234","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228071200","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250228071200-114.129.4.234-20250228050200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma-February_28-20250228055200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228055200","author":"Mukat lal sharma","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200-05:52,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Mukat_lal_sharma","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228060200","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250228060200-Mukat_lal_sharma-20250228055200","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667-February_28-20250228055400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228055400","author":"Kavoshgar 1667","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400-05:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Kavoshgar_1667","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228060500","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250228060500-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250228062300","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250228062300-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228055400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228091400","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20250228091400-Bonadea-20250228062300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228133000","author":"Kavoshgar 1667","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kavoshgar_1667-20250228133000-Theroadislong-20250228091400","replies":[]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-164.160.184.135-20250228065600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135-February_28-20250228065600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228065600","author":"164.160.184.135","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-164.160.184.135-20250228065600-06:56,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_164.160.184.135","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228071100","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250228071100-164.160.184.135-20250228065600","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250228160200","author":"ColinFine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ColinFine-20250228160200-164.160.184.135-20250228065600","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sunuraju-20250228090900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Drafts-February_28-20250228090900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228090900","author":"Sunuraju","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sunuraju-20250228090900-Drafts","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228094000","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250228094000-Sunuraju-20250228090900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228120700","author":"Sunuraju","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sunuraju-20250228120700-DoubleGrazing-20250228094000","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ruth-andco-20250228095400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco-February_28-20250228095400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228095400","author":"Ruth-andco","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ruth-andco-20250228095400-09:54,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Ruth-andco","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228100800","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250228100800-Ruth-andco-20250228095400","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228174200","author":"Gheus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gheus-20250228174200-DoubleGrazing-20250228100800","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BlooBind-20250228134900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_28-20250228134900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228134900","author":"BlooBind","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BlooBind-20250228134900-13:49,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228151500","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250228151500-BlooBind-20250228134900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228152700","author":"BlooBind","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BlooBind-20250228152700-DoubleGrazing-20250228151500","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228153400","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250228153400-BlooBind-20250228152700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228154600","author":"BlooBind","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BlooBind-20250228154600-DoubleGrazing-20250228153400","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider-February_28-20250228141800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228141800","author":"Snakebitesspider","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800-14:18,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Snakebitesspider","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228151300","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250228151300-Snakebitesspider-20250228141800","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BubbaLoja3-20250228163700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3-February_28-20250228163700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228163700","author":"BubbaLoja3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BubbaLoja3-20250228163700-16:37,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BubbaLoja3","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228170900","author":"Jéské Couriano","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jéské_Couriano-20250228170900-BubbaLoja3-20250228163700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228171200","author":"BubbaLoja3","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BubbaLoja3-20250228171200-Jéské_Couriano-20250228170900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228174300","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250228174300-BubbaLoja3-20250228171200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228174500","author":"BubbaLoja3","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BubbaLoja3-20250228174500-331dot-20250228174300","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Asamadbhr-20250228190300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr-February_28-20250228190300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228190300","author":"Asamadbhr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Asamadbhr-20250228190300-19:03,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_Asamadbhr","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228210300","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250228210300-Asamadbhr-20250228190300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BlooBind-20250228215700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind-February_28-20250228215700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228215700","author":"BlooBind","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BlooBind-20250228215700-21:57,_28_February_2025_review_of_submission_by_BlooBind","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250228224900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250228224900-BlooBind-20250228215700","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":1,"name":"h-Harlanchen-20250301012000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-March_1-20250301012000","replies":[{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harlanchen-20250301012000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen-March_1-20250301012000","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301012000","author":"Harlanchen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harlanchen-20250301012000-01:20,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Harlanchen","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301044100","author":"Mcmatter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mcmatter-20250301044100-Harlanchen-20250301012000","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2facedduke-20250301075800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke-March_1-20250301075800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301075800","author":"2facedduke","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2facedduke-20250301075800-07:58,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_2facedduke","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301083300","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250301083300-2facedduke-20250301075800","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sunuraju-20250301092800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju-March_1-20250301092800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301092800","author":"Sunuraju","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sunuraju-20250301092800-09:28,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Sunuraju","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301094000","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20250301094000-Sunuraju-20250301092800","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301095400","author":"Sunuraju","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sunuraju-20250301095400-DoubleGrazing-20250301094000","replies":[]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo-March_1-20250301123300","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301123300","author":"Caterina Lo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300-12:33,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Caterina_Lo","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301123700","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250301123700-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250301123800","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250301123800-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300","replies":[]},{"timestamp":"20250301152800","author":"Cl3phact0","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cl3phact0-20250301152800-Caterina_Lo-20250301123300","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-KuturankiAuta-20250301140100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta-March_1-20250301140100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301140100","author":"KuturankiAuta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KuturankiAuta-20250301140100-14:01,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_KuturankiAuta","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301140600","author":"Bonadea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bonadea-20250301140600-KuturankiAuta-20250301140100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301141200","author":"KuturankiAuta","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-KuturankiAuta-20250301141200-Bonadea-20250301140600","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301142200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-331dot-20250301142200-KuturankiAuta-20250301141200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301143100","author":"KuturankiAuta","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-KuturankiAuta-20250301143100-331dot-20250301142200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301143900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-331dot-20250301143900-KuturankiAuta-20250301143100","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301144200","author":"KuturankiAuta","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-KuturankiAuta-20250301144200-331dot-20250301143900","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301145700","author":"KuturankiAuta","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-KuturankiAuta-20250301145700-KuturankiAuta-20250301144200","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301153200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-331dot-20250301153200-KuturankiAuta-20250301145700","replies":[]}]}]}]}]}]}]}]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Alephjamie-20250301145700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie-March_1-20250301145700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301145700","author":"Alephjamie","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alephjamie-20250301145700-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301153400","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20250301153400-Alephjamie-20250301145700","replies":[]}]}]},{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Alephjamie-20250301145700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2-March_1-20250301145700","replies":[{"timestamp":"20250301145700","author":"Alephjamie","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alephjamie-20250301145700-14:57,_1_March_2025_review_of_submission_by_Alephjamie_2","replies":[]}]}]}],"wgPageParseReport":{"discussiontools":{"limitreport-timeusage":"0.183"},"limitreport":{"cputime":"1.032","walltime":"1.203","ppvisitednodes":{"value":24430,"limit":1000000},"postexpandincludesize":{"value":703453,"limit":2097152},"templateargumentsize":{"value":118363,"limit":2097152},"expansiondepth":{"value":13,"limit":100},"expensivefunctioncount":{"value":7,"limit":500},"unstrip-depth":{"value":0,"limit":20},"unstrip-size":{"value":3460,"limit":5000000},"entityaccesscount":{"value":0,"limit":400},"timingprofile":["100.00% 632.859 1 -total"," 69.83% 441.921 82 Template:Lafc"," 28.22% 178.618 82 Template:La"," 18.35% 116.115 166 Template:Encodefirst"," 17.42% 110.232 1 Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_February_23"," 13.99% 88.566 1 Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/header"," 13.09% 82.830 82 Template:Lx"," 12.83% 81.210 82 Template:User"," 7.06% 44.652 1 Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/tabs"," 6.63% 41.931 82 Template:Plain_link"]},"scribunto":{"limitreport-timeusage":{"value":"0.173","limit":"10.000"},"limitreport-memusage":{"value":2523101,"limit":52428800}},"cachereport":{"origin":"mw-api-ext.codfw.main-5b58c755bd-4t4kn","timestamp":"20250301162826","ttl":864000,"transientcontent":true}}});});</script> <script>(window.NORLQ=window.NORLQ||[]).push(function(){var ns,i,p,img;ns=document.getElementsByTagName('noscript');for(i=0;i<ns.length;i++){p=ns[i].nextSibling;if(p&&p.className&&p.className.indexOf('lazy-image-placeholder')>-1){img=document.createElement('img');img.setAttribute('src',p.getAttribute('data-mw-src'));img.setAttribute('width',p.getAttribute('data-width'));img.setAttribute('height',p.getAttribute('data-height'));img.setAttribute('alt',p.getAttribute('data-alt'));p.parentNode.replaceChild(img,p);}}});</script> </body> </html>