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ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements-enabled ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements_reply-enabled ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements_pageframe-enabled skin-vector-legacy mediawiki ltr sitedir-ltr mw-hide-empty-elt ns-1 ns-talk mw-editable page-Diskussion_Dega_Berg rootpage-Diskussion_Dega_Berg skin-vector action-view"><div id="mw-page-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="mw-head-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="content" class="mw-body" role="main"> <a id="top"></a> <div id="siteNotice"></div> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Diskussion</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Dega (Berg)</span></h1> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body"> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie</div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Amga-2011-04-08T14:11:00.000Z-Amga-2011-04-08T14:04:00.000Z">vor 13 Jahren</a> von Amga in Abschnitt <a href="#höchster_Berg_Eritreas">höchster Berg Eritreas</a></div></div></div> <div id="contentSub2"></div> <div id="jump-to-nav"></div> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#mw-head">Zur Navigation springen</a> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#searchInput">Zur Suche springen</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="de" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quellen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quellen-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quellen-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z"></span>Quellen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quellen-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&action=edit&section=1" title="Quellcode des Abschnitts bearbeiten: Quellen"><span>Quelltext bearbeiten</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Sextant-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z-Quellen">vor 13 Jahren</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 Kommentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 Person ist an der Diskussion beteiligt</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sextant-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z-Quellen"></span>Für den Soira gibt es dies Quelle: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=11114">peakbagger</a>. Woher stammen die Angaben zum Dega? (Die Position ist auch nicht gerade genau). --<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Sextant" title="Benutzer:Sextant">Sextant</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)#c-Sextant-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z-Quellen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 2. Feb. 2011 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sextant-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z-Quellen"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantworten","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantworten</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sextant-2011-02-02T14:43:00.000Z-Quellen"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="höchster_Berg_Eritreas" data-mw-thread-id="h-höchster_Berg_Eritreas-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z"><span id="h.C3.B6chster_Berg_Eritreas"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-höchster_Berg_Eritreas-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z"></span>höchster Berg Eritreas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-höchster_Berg_Eritreas-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&action=edit&section=2" title="Quellcode des Abschnitts bearbeiten: höchster Berg Eritreas"><span>Quelltext bearbeiten</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Letzter Kommentar: <a href="#c-Amga-2011-04-08T14:11:00.000Z-Amga-2011-04-08T14:04:00.000Z">vor 13 Jahren</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 Kommentare</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 Personen sind an der Diskussion beteiligt</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="float-right plainlinks" style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0; font-size:smaller; text-align:right;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Herzi_Pinki-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Georeferenzierung"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Gnome-globe.svg/16px-Gnome-globe.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Gnome-globe.svg/24px-Gnome-globe.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Gnome-globe.svg/32px-Gnome-globe.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> Karte mit allen Koordinaten: <span title="OpenStreetMap"><a class="external text" href="https://osm4wiki.toolforge.org/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=de&article=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)">OSM</a></span> | <span title="WikiMap"><a class="external text" href="https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lang=de&page=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)">WikiMap</a></span> </div> <p>Habe mal versucht, aus verschiedenen Quellen den höchsten Berg von Eritrea festzumachen: Zur Auswahl stehen: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Soira" title="Soira">Soira</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dega_Mountain" class="mw-redirect" title="Dega Mountain">Dega</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Amba_Mossino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Amba Mossino (Seite nicht vorhanden)">Amba Mossino</a> (der Vollständigkeit willen, liegt dazwischen)</li></ul> <table class="sortable"> <tbody><tr> <th>Berg</th> <th>Coord</th> <th>Bemerkung </th></tr> <tr> <td>Soira (mountainsmounts.com)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7378835539.5132755</span><span id="soyra_(mountainsmounts.com)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.7378825_N_39.5132753_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=soyra+%28mountainsmounts.com%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 44′ 16,4″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 30′ 47,8″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.7378825</span><span class="longitude">39.5132753</span><span class="elevation"></span></span><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>hbe 1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Soira (geonames.org)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7378805539.5132805</span><span id="soyra_(geonames.org)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.73788_N_39.51328_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=soyra+%28geonames.org%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 44′ 16,4″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 30′ 47,8″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.73788</span><span class="longitude">39.51328</span><span class="elevation"></span></span><sup id="cite_ref-geonames_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-geonames-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>hbe 2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </td></tr> <tr> <td><small><a href="/wiki/Soira" title="Soira">Soira</a> (WP)</small></td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7300005539.6602785</span><span id="soira_(WP)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.73_N_39.660277777778_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=soira+%28WP%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 43′ 48,0″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 39′ 37,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.73</span><span class="longitude">39.660277777778</span><span class="elevation"></span></span></td> <td>(weit daneben) </td></tr> <tr> <td><small>Soira (peakbagger)</small></td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7500005539.5333335</span><span id="soira_(peakbagger)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.75_N_39.533333333333_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=soira+%28peakbagger%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 45′ 00,0″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 32′ 00,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.75</span><span class="longitude">39.533333333333</span><span class="elevation"></span></span></td> <td>(bei Beschriftung, aber nicht max) </td></tr> <tr> <td>Soira (google relief)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7373255539.5166215</span><span id="soira_(google_relief)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.737325_N_39.516621_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=soira+%28google+relief%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 44′ 14,4″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 30′ 59,8″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.737325</span><span class="longitude">39.516621</span><span class="elevation"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Dega_Mountain" class="mw-redirect" title="Dega Mountain">Dega</a> (WP)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7616675539.5275005</span><span id="dega_(WP)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.761666666667_N_39.5275_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=dega+%28WP%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 45′ 42,0″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 31′ 39,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.761666666667</span><span class="longitude">39.5275</span><span class="elevation"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Dega (mountainsmounts.com)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7618575539.5277745</span><span id="dega_(mountainsmounts.com)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.7618572_N_39.5277739_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=dega+%28mountainsmounts.com%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 45′ 42,7″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 31′ 40,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.7618572</span><span class="longitude">39.5277739</span><span class="elevation"></span></span><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>hbe 3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Dega (geonames.org)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7618605539.5277705</span><span id="dega_(geonames.org)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.76186_N_39.52777_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=dega+%28geonames.org%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 45′ 42,7″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 31′ 40,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.76186</span><span class="longitude">39.52777</span><span class="elevation"></span></span><sup id="cite_ref-geonames_2-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-geonames-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>hbe 2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Dega (google relief)</td> <td><span style="display:none">!514.7613545539.5302685</span><span id="dega_(google_relief)" class="coordinates plainlinks-print"><a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)&language=de&params=14.761354_N_39.530268_E_dim:100_region:ER-DU_type:mountain&title=dega+%28google+relief%29"><span title="Breitengrad">14° 45′ 40,9″ <abbr title="Nord">N</abbr></span>, <span title="Längengrad">039° 31′ 49,0″ <abbr title="Ost">O</abbr></span></a></span><span class="geo noexcerpt" style="display:none"><span class="body"></span><span class="latitude">14.761354</span><span class="longitude">39.530268</span><span class="elevation"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td>unbenannt dazwischen (google 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href="http://www.rastlos.com/eritrea/berge/">http://www.rastlos.com/eritrea/berge/</a> (hat als Quelle auch geonames.org) </p><p>Alle 3 Berge liegen in einem Gebirgszug auf einer Länge von rund 4 km. Schartenhöhen lt. google relief bei rund 150 m. Bei den Höhen sind sich alle Quellen in etwa einig, Dega 3047, Amba Mossino 3038, Soira 3013m. Lt. google reliefkarte handelt es sich um drei deutlich unterscheidbare Gipfel, die ein gemeinsames Massiv bilden. </p> <ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/8021/soyra/">http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/8021/soyra/</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-geonames-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink">↑ <sup><a href="#cite_ref-geonames_2-0">a</a></sup> <sup><a href="#cite_ref-geonames_2-1">b</a></sup> <sup><a href="#cite_ref-geonames_2-2">c</a></sup></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.geonames.org/ER/highest-mountains-in-eritrea.html">http://www.geonames.org/ER/highest-mountains-in-eritrea.html</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/7705/dega/">http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/7705/dega/</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-4">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/7783/amba-mossino/">http://www.mountainsmounts.com/mountain/7783/amba-mossino/</a></span> </li> </ol> <p>--<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Herzi_Pinki" title="Benutzer:Herzi Pinki">Herzi Pinki</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)#c-Herzi_Pinki-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 2. Feb. 2011 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Herzi_Pinki-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantworten","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantworten</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Herzi_Pinki-2011-02-02T21:51:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amga-2011-04-08T14:04:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas"></span>Auf der sowjetischen Generalstabskarte D-37-X, Maßstab 1:200.000, mit 40-m-Höhenlinien, ist namentlich und mit Höhenangabe nur der Amba Mossino ausgezeichnet, 3038 m. </p> <ul><li>Soira steht nicht drauf, an der angegebenen Stelle wird aber die 3000er-Höhenlinie übertroffen, die 3040er nicht (3018 m kommt also hin); dort gibt es einen ganz anderen Soira (kyrillisch Сойра), paar Kilometer westsüdwestlich und nur 2692 m hoch.</li> <li>Dega steht auch nicht drauf, an der angegebenen Stelle wird aber die 3040er-Höhenlinie übertroffen, also könnte 3047 m zutreffen</li> <li>ABER! Auf der größeren, im Satellitenbild hellen "Fläche" noch etwa einen Kilometer nördlich/nordnordöstlich des Dega (nach allen drei Varianten) liegt ein kleines, ebenso unbezeichnetes Gebiet sogar über der 3080er-Höhenlinie!</li></ul> <p>Da hilft wohl nur Original Research (hinfahren) ;-) *Sooo* schlecht erschlossen, wie im Artikel Soira gesagt, scheint es mir gar nicht: in die Stadt Senafe nur 15 km südwestlich führt eine Straße, Pfade unterhalb der Gipfel kann ich da auch ausmachen. Senafe liegt auch über 2300 m hoch, also nur 700 m Höhenunterschied: hin und zurück = Tagesausflug ;-) Ist natürlich nicht so das tolle Reiseziel, und wer weiß, ob das Gebiet nicht noch durch den Krieg mit Äthiopien unbetretbar ist, von wegen Minen... --<a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Amga" title="Benutzer:Amga">Amga</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)#c-Amga-2011-04-08T14:04:00.000Z-höchster_Berg_Eritreas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 8. 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Die Gegend ist natürlich schwerer erreichbar. -- <a href="/wiki/Benutzer:Amga" title="Benutzer:Amga">Amga</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Dega_(Berg)#c-Amga-2011-04-08T14:11:00.000Z-Amga-2011-04-08T14:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 8. 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