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No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>rename</b>. — <a href="/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T01:59:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 6 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T01:59:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-06T01:59:00.000Z","author":"JJMC89","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T01:59:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T01:59:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1952%E2%80%9358&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1952–58 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1952–58</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1952%E2%80%931958" title="Category:MEPs 1952–1958">Category:MEPs 1952–1958</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1958%E2%80%9379&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1958–79 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1958–79</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1958%E2%80%931979" title="Category:MEPs 1958–1979">Category:MEPs 1958–1979</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1979%E2%80%9384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1979–84 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1979–84</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1979%E2%80%931984" title="Category:MEPs 1979–1984">Category:MEPs 1979–1984</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1984%E2%80%9389&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1984–89 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1984–89</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1984%E2%80%931989" title="Category:MEPs 1984–1989">Category:MEPs 1984–1989</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1989%E2%80%9394&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1989–94 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1989–94</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1989%E2%80%931994" title="Category:MEPs 1989–1994">Category:MEPs 1989–1994</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_1994%E2%80%9399&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 1994–99 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 1994–99</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_1994%E2%80%931999" title="Category:MEPs 1994–1999">Category:MEPs 1994–1999</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_2004%E2%80%9309&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 2004–09 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 2004–09</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_2004%E2%80%932009" title="Category:MEPs 2004–2009">Category:MEPs 2004–2009</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_2009%E2%80%9314&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 2009–14 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 2009–14</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_2009%E2%80%932014" title="Category:MEPs 2009–2014">Category:MEPs 2009–2014</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_2014%E2%80%9319&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 2014–19 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 2014–19</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_2014%E2%80%932019" title="Category:MEPs 2014–2019">Category:MEPs 2014–2019</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_2019%E2%80%9324&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs 2019–24 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs 2019–24</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:MEPs_2019%E2%80%932024" title="Category:MEPs 2019–2024">Category:MEPs 2019–2024</a></li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#Category:MEPs_1952–58" title="Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 May 29">Full list of 702 affected categories</a></b></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Per <a href="/wiki/MOS:DATERANGE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DATERANGE">MOS:DATERANGE</a> for non-consecutive years. There is 1 potential caveat there ("<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">in certain topic areas if there is a very good reason, such as matching the established convention of reliable sources</q>"), to which, a) I don't see any good reason to keep the abbreviated year, and b) I only found RS examples which use the full year (i.e. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/1133/SYLVIANE+H._AINARDI/history/5">1</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.parliament.scot/msps/currentmsps/98510.aspx">2</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.parliament.go.tz/index.php/administrations/484">3</a>). This specific case is not explicitly addressed in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCDURATION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCDURATION">WP:NCDURATION</a>, but is instead linked to <a href="/wiki/MOS:DATERANGE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DATERANGE">MOS:DATERANGE</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This list was created by recursing <a href="/wiki/Category:Legislators_by_term" title="Category:Legislators by term">Category:Legislators by term</a> to a depth of 5, and fully recursing <a href="/wiki/Category:Legislatures_of_country_subdivisions" title="Category:Legislatures of country subdivisions">Category:Legislatures of country subdivisions</a>. A recursion depth of 4 produced the same result, so this is likely all or the vast majority of relevant child cats. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T21:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Comments</b> I find <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_September_18#Year_ranges_in_politician_categories" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 18">this cfd in 2013</a>. I also find that <a href="/wiki/MOS:DATERANGE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DATERANGE">MOS:DATERANGE</a> was changed after an rfc in 2016. <a href="/wiki/User:Oculi" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Oculi">Oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oculi" title="User talk:Oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Oculi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":["c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z"></span>MOS was changed in July 2016 via <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/731889467" title="Special:Diff/731889467">this edit</a>, as a result of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&oldid=731874769#WP:DATERANGE_ambiguity_and_stylistic_concerns">this RFC</a>. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T21:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z"></span>The RFC closure includes: "A limited number of exceptions apply to this. Firstly, when space is at a premium, such as in tables or infoboxes, 2 year date styles may be used." It might be argued that this applies as someone like <a href="/wiki/Ian_Paisley" title="Ian Paisley">Ian Paisley</a> is in a lot of these categories. <a href="/wiki/User:Oculi" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Oculi">Oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oculi" title="User talk:Oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Oculi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-29T22:57:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z"></span>By that metric, <a href="/wiki/%C3%89amon_de_Valera" title="Éamon de Valera">Éamon de Valera</a> is the most popular, belonging to 21 of these categories, and <a href="/wiki/Ian_Paisley" title="Ian Paisley">Ian Paisley</a> is a close 3rd at 19. There are 356 pages belonging to more than 10 cats (using 1/2 max as a not-too-arbitrary cutoff), which is 0.76% of the 47,098 unique articles (depth = 4). <a href="/wiki/Abel_Smith_(1829%E2%80%931898)" class="mw-redirect" title="Abel Smith (1829–1898)">Abel Smith (1829–1898)</a>, for example, belongs to 10. Are you suggesting we go against the MOS because of this small %, and small #, of articles, nevermind the fact that categories have nothing to do with "<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">tables [n]or infoboxes</q>"? <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T01:22:00.000Z-Oculi-2019-05-29T23:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Support</b> per <a href="/wiki/MOS:DATERANGE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DATERANGE">MOS:DATERANGE</a>. None of the 3 exceptions listed in the guideline apply here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z","author":"Gonnym","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T05:08:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Philip_Stevens-2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Support</b> per above. --<a href="/wiki/User:Philip_Stevens" title="User:Philip Stevens">Philip Stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Philip_Stevens" title="User talk:Philip Stevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Philip_Stevens-2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Philip_Stevens-2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z","author":"Philip Stevens","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Philip_Stevens-2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Philip_Stevens-2019-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lugnuts-2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Support all</b> per nom. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span></a></b> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Lugnuts-2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lugnuts-2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z","author":"Lugnuts","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lugnuts-2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lugnuts-2019-05-30T11:21:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li> <li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a>:</span> could you also create a list of corresponding articles such as <a href="/wiki/Members_of_the_European_Parliament_2019%E2%80%9324" class="mw-redirect" title="Members of the European Parliament 2019–24">Members of the European Parliament 2019–24</a>? As that should be changed as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Gonnym","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":["c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><s><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> those are already included in the full list.</s> <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T17:43:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span>Oh, <i>articles</i>... You can use the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=1&categories=Legislators%20by%20term&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&">PetScan</a> to generate that list. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z"></span>This is a good point. The articles (such as <a href="/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_European_Parliament,_2004%E2%80%9309" class="mw-redirect" title="List of members of the European Parliament, 2004–09">List of members of the European Parliament, 2004–09</a>) should be renamed first, then the categories. <a href="/wiki/User:Oculi" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Oculi">Oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oculi" title="User talk:Oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Oculi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oculi-2019-05-31T09:59:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2019-05-30T18:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> I found 381 articles under these cats with durations > 1 and placed them <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#Related_articles" title="Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 May 29">here</a>. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 31 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-05-31T14:05:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-05-30T17:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Add this too <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:MEPs_for_Bulgaria_2019%E2%80%9324&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:MEPs for Bulgaria 2019–24 (page does not exist)">Category:MEPs for Bulgaria 2019–24</a> <a href="/wiki/User:FoxyGrampa75" class="mw-redirect" title="User:FoxyGrampa75">FoxyGrampa75</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FoxyGrampa75" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:FoxyGrampa75">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z","author":"FoxyGrampa75","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":["c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> <a href="/wiki/User:FoxyGrampa75" class="mw-redirect" title="User:FoxyGrampa75">Done</a></b></span> - added 4 newly created categories. Pinging all creators <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:FoxyGrampa75" class="mw-redirect" title="User:FoxyGrampa75">FoxyGrampa75</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ehlla&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ehlla (page does not exist)">Ehlla</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Concus_Cretus" title="User:Concus Cretus">Concus Cretus</a>:</span> if you create more categories before this CfD concludes, please add them to the list yourself. Or, it might be easier to hold off creating categories of this type until then. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2019-06-01T19:07:00.000Z-FoxyGrampa75-2019-06-01T18:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Concus_Cretus-2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Concus_Cretus" title="User:Concus Cretus">Concus Cretus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Concus_Cretus" title="User talk:Concus Cretus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Concus_Cretus-2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 2 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Concus_Cretus-2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Concus Cretus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Concus_Cretus-2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952\u201358","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Concus_Cretus-2019-06-02T01:07:00.000Z-Category:MEPs_1952–58"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality-May_29-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality-May_29-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z"></span>Category:Philosophy of spirituality<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality-May_29-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Category:Philosophy of spirituality"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. — <a href="/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z","author":"JJMC89","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJMC89-2019-06-06T02:00:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshua_Jonathan-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Philosophy of spirituality (page does not exist)">Category:Philosophy of spirituality</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Philosophy of spirituality (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3APhilosophy+of+spirituality">logs</a>)</span></span><br/></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Nonsense category. "Spirituality" is already an immensely broad topic, which includes philosophical issues. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshua_Jonathan" title="User:Joshua Jonathan"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></a> -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshua_Jonathan" title="User talk:Joshua Jonathan"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Joshua_Jonathan-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshua_Jonathan-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z","author":"Joshua Jonathan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshua_Jonathan-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshua_Jonathan-2019-05-29T05:13:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tlhslobus-2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span>Weak Oppose</b> per most of the nominator's own rationale. If it really is 'an immensely broad topic, which includes philosophical issues', that seems like a good reason for having a more precise category, so readers don't have to wade through articles dealing mainly with non-philosophical aspects of spirituality (whatever those might be). However my Oppose is Weak mainly because I'm not all that interested in the issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Tlhslobus" title="User:Tlhslobus">Tlhslobus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tlhslobus" title="User talk:Tlhslobus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Tlhslobus-2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:46, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tlhslobus-2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z","author":"Tlhslobus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tlhslobus-2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tlhslobus-2019-05-30T02:46:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span>Support</b>, there is no article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Philosophy_of_spirituality&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Philosophy of spirituality (page does not exist)">Philosophy of spirituality</a> and I have never heard about this as a subfield of philosophy studies. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Marcocapelle-2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-2019-05-30T08:57:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DexDor-2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span>Delete</b> per above. Note: of the 3 articles currently in the category one obviously doesn't belong (Y doesn't belong in Category:X-of-Y) and the other two articles are in many other categories. <b><a href="/wiki/User:DexDor" title="User:DexDor">DexDor</a></b><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:DexDor" title="User talk:DexDor">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-DexDor-2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DexDor-2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z","author":"DexDor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DexDor-2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DexDor-2019-06-01T08:34:00.000Z-Category:Philosophy_of_spirituality"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Editcopies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Editcopies-May_29-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Editcopies-May_29-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z"></span>Category:Editcopies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Editcopies-May_29-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Category:Editcopies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jac16888-2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>speedy delete</b>. Clearly not appropriate <a href="/wiki/User:Jac16888" title="User:Jac16888"><span style="color: Blue;">Jac</span><span style="color: Green;">16888</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jac16888" title="User talk:Jac16888"><sup><span style="color: red;">Talk</span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Jac16888-2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 2 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jac16888-2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Jac16888","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jac16888-2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jac16888-2019-06-02T20:57:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomalocaris-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Editcopies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Editcopies (page does not exist)">Category:Editcopies</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Editcopies&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Editcopies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Editcopies (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Editcopies&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Editcopies">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Editcopies&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AEditcopies">logs</a>)</span></span><br/></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Not a legitimate Wikipedia category, but on its creator's own terms, it was set up for users to propose changes for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Minecraft_Wiki&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Minecraft Wiki (page does not exist)">Minecraft Wiki</a> (a nonexistent page). Such discussions belong in talk pages, not category pages. Moreover, the page is full of code that is atypical of category pages, and has a <a href="/wiki/Special:LintErrors/fostered" title="Special:LintErrors/fostered">Fostered Content</a> lint error. —<a href="/wiki/User:Anomalocaris" title="User:Anomalocaris">Anomalocaris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomalocaris" title="User talk:Anomalocaris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_29#c-Anomalocaris-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomalocaris-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Anomalocaris","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Anomalocaris-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomalocaris-2019-05-29T01:00:00.000Z-Category:Editcopies"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). 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