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class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='0' data-id='603958403971469312'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>中村珍さんが犬の漫画始めようとしているところで犬食う話とかするの気が引けつつも、動物食べることについて自分が考えてることぼんやりまとめたので連投します。狩猟への偏った先入観とか少しでも払拭できると幸い。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603958403971469312" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:17:59</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='1' data-id='603958612801687552'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>昨日食べ損なったウサギ全部食いきった。最後に頭蓋骨という大物が残ってて少し感傷的に。こういう話嫌いな方には申し訳ないのでスルー推奨ですが、ウサギの頭は初めて食べたので構造とか観察していると、まだまだ人間的な理性に左右されてしまう自分に気づく。前歯とか完全にウサギで心が揺らぐ。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603958612801687552" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:18:48</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='2' data-id='603958808495304706'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>シンプルに考えればとにかく美味しくて、特に頬肉とかタンとか脳みそ素晴らしいので欧州の人たちが好んで食べるのすごくわかる。日本ではまだ可愛さが勝るので「ウサギ食べるなんて！」と煙たがられるのも理解できるけど、実際食うと「可愛い～！」→「かわいそう～！」→「美味しい～！」に変化する。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603958808495304706" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:19:35</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='3' data-id='603959048153640960'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>動物、かわいければ可愛いほど美味しいというのが持論で、仔牛も仔豚も仔羊も実際美味い。イルカは臭いけど調理次第で美味くなる。ここらへん完全に好き嫌いの話で、生理的にイヤだから可愛い生き物食べないで！って言われるの甘んじて受け入れる心持ちが必要で、それはしょうがない、イヤなんだから。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603959048153640960" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:20:32</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='4' data-id='603959241787838464'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>イタリア人に「ウサギ可愛いから食べないで！」と言うのも、日本人に「イルカ可愛いから食べないで！」と言うのも、韓国人に「犬可愛いから食べないで！」と言うのも生理的な反応で「人の国の文化にケチつけるな」と感情的に返しても仕方なく、戦う人は個体数など厳密に調査して論理的にやっていく。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603959241787838464" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:21:18</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='603959318463918082'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>他国の文化を尊重したいと考えている人でも、ネコ食べてる人見たら「やめて～！」って叫ぶ日本人相当数いるはずで、これはもう「イヤなものはイヤなの！」というその感情を無視することは出来ないし、そういう感情のブレに人間は魅力を見出すものだし、感情表現がマグロっぽい人基本的にモテない。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603959318463918082" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:21:37</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='6' data-id='603959697176043520'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>狩猟の話をすると、イヌやネコは愛玩動物で人間と密接に関係構築してるので、特に心理的な抵抗があるでしょうが、実は日本ではノイヌとノネコは狩猟鳥獣でお上からのお墨付きで獲って食べてもよかったりします。ノイヌ・ノネコの定義は山野で自活していることなので、銀やウィードは食べてもよいです。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603959697176043520" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:23:07</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='7' data-id='603959925039960067'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>ハンターは野蛮人で、猟友会は野蛮人の集まり、という偏見もまあ仕方ないでしょうね。特に日本は動物を屠殺して肉を販売するまでの過程ほとんど見えなくて、良くも悪くも綺麗になりすぎた。情緒に左右されやすく、潔癖な人が多いから、衛生的な街が作られ、同時に生き死にに触れる機会も失った感ある。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603959925039960067" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:24:01</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' 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class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>鹿とかすごく可愛いけどほっとくとドンドン木の皮食べちゃって、木が育たなくなって地盤も緩んで土砂災害、とかかなり深刻で猟友会が駆除しないと実際ヤバい。ちょっとした狩猟ブームとかジビエブームあるとはいえ、ハンターの数は減少してるので国が対策打たないと駆除する人いなくなるの大きな問題。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603960239134658561" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:25:16</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='10' data-id='603960553954873344'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>ヒヨドリという、これも見た目すごく可愛い鳥がいますが、ミカン食い荒らすため農家の人に嫌われてて獲ると感謝されます。まあ、銃で撃ち殺すの単純に野蛮かも知れないですが、正月にコタツで食べてるそのミカン、ヒヨドリから守られて出荷されてますよー、くらいは言ってもバチは当たらないでしょう。</p> 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class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>つまり何が言いたいかというと「なんぼて腹へったべやな～～リキ・・・ガスッ、ザクッ、ザクッ　ワシを食え～！！」という竹田のじっさまの言葉が全てです。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603961552589299712" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:30:29</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='603961668746416128'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jun_suzuki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ジュンスズキ</strong> <span class="status_name">@jun_suzuki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>自分が食うからには自分も食われる覚悟持って初めて動物との共存と言えるような気がしている。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jun_suzuki/status/603961668746416128" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2015-05-29 01:30:57</a> </span> 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