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Comments and questions about Monkbot are welcome here.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Langx_romanization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Langx_romanization-20241120070500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Langx_romanization-20241120070500"></span>Langx romanization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Langx_romanization-20241120070500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Langx romanization"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241120070500-Langx_romanization"></span>Hi there. I have noticed a certain error with the langx template. It seems previously "r" was sometimes used for the romanization parameter but the bot did not change this and this results in an error with the new template. See for example <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grand_Duke_Michael_Alexandrovich_of_Russia&oldid=1256822472">this</a> version of an article. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241120070500-Langx_romanization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241120070500-Langx_romanization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241120070500-Langx_romanization"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700-Mellk-20241120070500"></span>Not an error in <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Langx" title="Template:Langx">langx</a>}}</code> but is an error in how that specific <span class="nowrap"><code>{{langx}}</code></span> template was written. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|r=</code> has never been a supported parameter in <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Langx" title="Template:Langx">langx</a>}}</code> or its predecessor <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-??}}</code></span> templates (in this case <code>{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Lang-ru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Lang-ru (page does not exist)">lang-ru</a>}}</code>). Likely the editor who made <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/579877640" title="Special:Diff/579877640">this edit</a> confused <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-ru}}</code></span> with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang-rus" title="Template:Lang-rus">lang-rus</a>}}</code> which, like <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang-zh" title="Template:Lang-zh">lang-zh</a>}}</code>, supports unique single-character parameter names.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>The error message is correct. You notice it now because of a recent update to <a href="/wiki/Module:Lang" title="Module:Lang">Module:Lang</a>. When unsupported parameters are used in any <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang" title="Template:Lang">lang</a>}}</code> or <span class="nowrap"><code>{{langx}}</code></span> template, Module:Lang emits an error message.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700-Mellk-20241120070500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700-Mellk-20241120070500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700-Mellk-20241120070500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241120141400-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700"></span>I see, thanks for the correction. I assumed that the same parameter in lang-rus was also valid. Is there a way to easily find other pages that have the same issue in terms of unsupported parameters? <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241120141400-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241120141400-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241120141400-Trappist_the_monk-20241120140700"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=%22Error%3A+%7B%7BLangx%7D%7D%3A+invalid+parameter%3A+%7Cr%3D%22&ns0=1"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000-Mellk-20241120141400"></span>This search</a>.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000-Mellk-20241120141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000-Mellk-20241120141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000-Mellk-20241120141400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241120143800-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"></span>Perfect, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241120143800-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241120143800-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241120143800-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241121092500-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"></span>I have also noticed a similar error message with IPA e.g. <a href="/wiki/Eugene_Onegin_(opera)" title="Eugene Onegin (opera)">Eugene Onegin (opera)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241121092500-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241121092500-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241121092500-Trappist_the_monk-20241120143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900-Mellk-20241121092500"></span>That one is your fault. At <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1235709717" title="Special:Diff/1235709717">this edit</a> on 2024-07-20, you changed <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Lang-rus" title="Template:Lang-rus">lang-rus</a>}}</code> to <code>{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Lang-ru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Lang-ru (page does not exist)">lang-ru</a>}}</code>. On 2024-10-20, <a href="/wiki/User:Monkbot/task_20" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Monkbot/task 20">Monkbot/task 20</a> replaced <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-ru|...}}</code></span> with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Langx" title="Template:Langx">langx</a>|ru|...}}</code>. When the templates were changed, <a href="/wiki/Module:Lang" title="Module:Lang">Module:Lang</a> (the engine behind <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-ru}}</code></span> and <span class="nowrap"><code>{{langx}}</code></span>) did not have code to check for unknown parameters so in both cases simply ignored <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">|Ru-Evgeny_Onegin.ogg</code>. Code for unknown-parameter-checking was added to Module:Lang 2024-11-14 and that is why your edit caused the error message.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>In <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-rus}}</code></span>, the supported positional parameters are: <ol><li>Russian text</li> <li>transliteration</li> <li>IPA</li> <li>audio file</li></ol></dd> <dd>In <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-ru}}</code></span>, the supported positional parameters were: <ol><li>Russian text</li> <li>transliteration</li> <li>translation</li></ol></dd> <dd>So, he asked, why did you convert <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-rus}}</code></span> to <span class="nowrap"><code>{{lang-ru}}</code></span>?</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900-Mellk-20241121092500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900-Mellk-20241121092500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900-Mellk-20241121092500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241121162500-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900"></span>I have no idea. I would have used the IPA template instead. Oversight, I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241121162500-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241121162500-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241121162500-Trappist_the_monk-20241121150900"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241121203200-Mellk-20241121162500"></span>Mellk</a>, you may be interested in <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Lang#Broken_usage_of_langx" title="Template talk:Lang">this similar talk page thread</a> about conversions between lang-ru(s) templates and the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|p=</code> parameter. That discussion contains a link to about 60 articles that need to be fixed. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Jonesey95-20241121203200-Mellk-20241121162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241121203200-Mellk-20241121162500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241121203200-Mellk-20241121162500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20241121203300-Jonesey95-20241121203200"></span>Thank you, I'll take a look. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk#c-Mellk-20241121203300-Jonesey95-20241121203200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20241121203300-Jonesey95-20241121203200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20241121203300-Jonesey95-20241121203200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starex_Night-20241127044400-Mellk-20241121203300"></span>hello? I'm just new here at wikipedia, why some of you has a BOT in your name? 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