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My comment stands. [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 20:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::::::No. It's about how you handled the marking of the article in question, and related pages, as being related to a contentious topic only when it served to criticise this deletion discussion. My comment stands. [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 20:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>::::It's extremely obvious you're targeting us with those contentious topics alerts because we want your article merged away, [[User:WeatherWriter|WeatherWriter]]. '''''[[User:LilianaUwU|<span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span>]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:LilianaUwU|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU|contributions]])</sup> 22:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::::It's extremely obvious you're targeting us with those contentious topics alerts because we want your article merged away, [[User:WeatherWriter|WeatherWriter]]. '''''[[User:LilianaUwU|<span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span>]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:LilianaUwU|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU|contributions]])</sup> 22:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:::::Really? CTOPIC notices are a required thing to do. As explained to GenevieveDEon at the administrators noticeboard. After the discussion was opened up there, all the accusations of OWNing, POV-pushing, and alleged targeting were taken back by GenevieveDEon. Please don't make the same mistake and accuse me. On a brief inspection, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LilianaUwU&diff=prev&oldid=1230141202 two minutes earlier], you removed the CTOPICs notice, which you are perfectly allowed to do (with indicates you acknowledged it). In your edit summary, you stated, "{{tq|where did I edit an article under that?}}" Does that mean you do not consider this to be even slightly related to climate change? If the answer is yes, then you are not ready to edit in the CTOPICs area. Also, before you accuse me further that I am targetting because "{{tq|we want your article merged away}}", you should do your homework and see that I too support merging it. Please strike the accusations and I would strike this entire comment insuit. '''The [[User:WeatherWriter|Weather Event Writer]]''' ([[User talk:WeatherWriter|Talk Page)]] 22:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>::[[WP:DELAY]] is also listed right above [[WP:RAPID]]. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 20:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::[[WP:DELAY]] is also listed right above [[WP:RAPID]]. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 20:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>*'''Merge with [[Just Stop Oil#2024]]''' as per above. For vandalism attempts other than the Just Stop Oil one, they would be more suitable for inclusion in the [[Stonehenge]] article. --[[User:MtPenguinMonster|MtPenguinMonster]] ([[User talk:MtPenguinMonster|talk]]) 12:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>*'''Merge with [[Just Stop Oil#2024]]''' as per above. For vandalism attempts other than the Just Stop Oil one, they would be more suitable for inclusion in the [[Stonehenge]] article. --[[User:MtPenguinMonster|MtPenguinMonster]] ([[User talk:MtPenguinMonster|talk]]) 12:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 22:31, 20 June 2024</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Vandalism_of_Stonehenge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge-20240620085500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge-20240620085500"></span><a href="/wiki/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge" class="mw-redirect" title="Vandalism of Stonehenge">Vandalism of Stonehenge</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge-20240620085500"></span></h3></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248391630">.mw-parser-output .afd-help{border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:88%;line-height:1.5em;padding:0.4em}.mw-parser-output .afd-help .user-show{float:right}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .afd-help{width:24em;clear:right;float:right;margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em}.mw-parser-output .afd-help ul{margin-left:2.6em}}</style> <div class="afd-help afd-help-box"> <p><span class="user-show"><a href="/wiki/Template:AFD_help#Hiding_the_box" title="Template:AFD help">[Hide this box]</a></span> New to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">Articles for deletion</a> (AfD)? 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The idea that something which happened yesterday and was cleaned up today with no lasting effects needs a whole article with the sweeping title 'Vandalism of Stonehenge' is unreasonable. Attempts to query the notability of this article, or to expand its scope to match the title, have been rebuffed by the creator, which rather smacks of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">WP:OWN</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500-Vandalism_of_Stonehenge"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czello-20240620091400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge with <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil#2024" title="Just Stop Oil">Just_Stop_Oil#2024</a></b>: Per OP. Not independently notable when this is one among many Just Stop Oil protests. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Czello" title="User:Czello"><i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i></a></b> <sup><i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czello" title="User talk:Czello"><i style="color:#8000FF">music</i></a>)</i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Czello-20240620091400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czello-20240620091400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czello-20240620091400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240620092700-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge</b> whatever is salvageable to <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil</a> per OP. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NEVENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NEVENT">WP:NEVENT</a> is relevant. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Traumnovelle-20240620092700-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240620092700-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240620092700-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-109.255.211.6-20240620094100-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge</b> where appropriate and <b>delete</b>. Given the tabby choice of title I'm agnostic if we need even the redirect. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.255.211.6" title="Special:Contributions/109.255.211.6">109.255.211.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:109.255.211.6" title="User talk:109.255.211.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-109.255.211.6-20240620094100-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-109.255.211.6-20240620094100-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-109.255.211.6-20240620094100-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wcquidditch-20240620104300-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Note: This discussion has been included in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting">deletion sorting</a> lists for the following topics: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Crime" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Crime">Crime</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Events" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Events">Events</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Environment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Environment">Environment</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/England" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/England">England</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Wcquidditch" title="User:Wcquidditch"><span style="color:red">WC</span><i><span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span></i></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wcquidditch" title="User talk:Wcquidditch"><span style="color:red">☎</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wcquidditch" title="Special:Contributions/Wcquidditch"><span style="color:#999933">✎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Wcquidditch-20240620104300-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wcquidditch-20240620104300-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wcquidditch-20240620104300-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620104600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge</b> whatever is appropriate to <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil</a>. I was tempted to nominate it myself, but thought for some reason we should wait one week or so when coverage inevitably stops. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:LilianaUwU" title="User:LilianaUwU"><span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span></a></b></i> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LilianaUwU" title="User talk:LilianaUwU">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU" title="Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU">contributions</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-LilianaUwU-20240620104600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620104600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LilianaUwU-20240620104600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620132500-LilianaUwU-20240620104600"></span>With that said, I would be down to expand the scope to all acts of vandalism on Stonehenge. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:LilianaUwU" title="User:LilianaUwU"><span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span></a></b></i> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LilianaUwU" title="User talk:LilianaUwU">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU" title="Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU">contributions</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-LilianaUwU-20240620132500-LilianaUwU-20240620104600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620132500-LilianaUwU-20240620104600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LilianaUwU-20240620132500-LilianaUwU-20240620104600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iadmc-20240620112900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Comment</b> the title is simply "Vandalism of Stonehenge" so this article could be used to cover <i>all</i> vandalism attempts on the monument. Otherwise <b>Merge</b> as above—<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF"><a href="/wiki/User:Iadmc" title="User:Iadmc"><span style="color: #0247FE"> Iadmc</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iadmc" title="Special:Contributions/Iadmc"><span style="color: black">♫</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iadmc" title="User talk:Iadmc"><span style="color: #0247FE">talk </span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Iadmc-20240620112900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iadmc-20240620112900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iadmc-20240620112900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-20240620120000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Delete</b> just another stunt from them. No damage - not interesting. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Secretlondon-20240620120000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-20240620120000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-20240620120000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Comment from creator</b> — I absolutely did <b>not</b> say the scope couldn’t be expanded. In fact, my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vandalism_of_Stonehenge&diff=prev&oldid=1230026452">only comment</a> regarding notability of the article was to note that LASTING could not be proven, and that a reassessment should occur in a week for notability. I am not going to !vote here, however, <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> put words into my mouth in this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RAPID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RAPID">WP:RAPID</a> deletion attempt. I personally ignore the nomination reasoning by GenevieveDEon for that reason, however, all other comments (keep, merge, or delete) from other editors I will be looking at extensively and appreciate all the responses. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620121000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121000-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"></span>On closer inspection, I see that the large additions that were removed were from IP users trying to make the page be about the nearby road tunnel. That's obviously not appropriate in any case. But it does highlight a deeper problem: the concept of 'vandalism' is not culturally or politically neutral, and deciding what should be included or excluded from such a general article would be very difficult. As it stands, this article is still <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">undue emphasis</a> on a very short-lived and likely insignificant event. I also note that <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">User:WeatherWriter</a> tagged me with the 'climate change is a contentious subject' talk page template. This isn't about climate change. I have no interest in the purported subject matter of the protest. My position would be the same whatever the purpose of the protest - a separate article is unnecessary. And calling this "<i>the</i> vandalism of Stonehenge" was, is, and remains ludicrous. We're not here to elevate utterly trivial news stories into separate encyclopedic topics. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-WeatherWriter-20240620121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164100-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000"></span>The tag on your talk page is a required thing per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOPICS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOPICS">WP:CTOPICS</a>. This was a protest related to climate change and as such, first-alert topics are given to editors in the field of articles regarding climate change. Nothing directed towards you. You statement "This isn't about climate change" is absolutely false, since <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil</a> is a climate-change related organization. Please do not focus on the editor and focus on the content. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620164100-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164100-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164100-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"></span>I regard it as rather targeted, because you didn't add the tag to the <a href="/wiki/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge" class="mw-redirect" title="Vandalism of Stonehenge">Vandalism of Stonehenge</a> article itself when you created it, but only when you were tagging various places including my talk page, after I had made this nomination. And I'm not sure it's a sensible use of the contentious topics policy for you to create an unnecessary (and untagged) article about a very minor event somewhat connected with the contentious topic, and then start throwing around the template once someone challenges that creation. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300-WeatherWriter-20240620164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620204000-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300"></span>Please strike the comment above as it does not pertain to the content of the article and is directly entirely at me. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620204000-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620204000-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620204000-GenevieveDEon-20240620170300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620205300-WeatherWriter-20240620204000"></span>No. It's about how you handled the marking of the article in question, and related pages, as being related to a contentious topic only when it served to criticise this deletion discussion. My comment stands. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620205300-WeatherWriter-20240620204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620205300-WeatherWriter-20240620204000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620205300-WeatherWriter-20240620204000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620222400-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"></span>It's extremely obvious you're targeting us with those contentious topics alerts because we want your article merged away, <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">WeatherWriter</a>. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:LilianaUwU" title="User:LilianaUwU"><span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span></a></b></i> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LilianaUwU" title="User talk:LilianaUwU">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU" title="Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU">contributions</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-LilianaUwU-20240620222400-WeatherWriter-20240620164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LilianaUwU-20240620222400-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LilianaUwU-20240620222400-WeatherWriter-20240620164100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620223000-LilianaUwU-20240620222400"></span>Really? CTOPIC notices are a required thing to do. As explained to GenevieveDEon at the administrators noticeboard. After the discussion was opened up there, all the accusations of OWNing, POV-pushing, and alleged targeting were taken back by GenevieveDEon. Please don't make the same mistake and accuse me. On a brief inspection, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LilianaUwU&diff=prev&oldid=1230141202">two minutes earlier</a>, you removed the CTOPICs notice, which you are perfectly allowed to do (with indicates you acknowledged it). In your edit summary, you stated, "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">where did I edit an article under that?</q>" Does that mean you do not consider this to be even slightly related to climate change? If the answer is yes, then you are not ready to edit in the CTOPICs area. Also, before you accuse me further that I am targetting because "<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">we want your article merged away</q>", you should do your homework and see that I too support merging it. Please strike the accusations and I would strike this entire comment insuit. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620223000-LilianaUwU-20240620222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620223000-LilianaUwU-20240620222400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620223000-LilianaUwU-20240620222400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DELAY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DELAY"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240620204800-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"></span>WP:DELAY</a> is also listed right above <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RAPID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RAPID">WP:RAPID</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Traumnovelle-20240620204800-WeatherWriter-20240620121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240620204800-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240620204800-WeatherWriter-20240620121000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20240620121500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge with <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil#2024" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil#2024</a></b> as per above. For vandalism attempts other than the Just Stop Oil one, they would be more suitable for inclusion in the <a href="/wiki/Stonehenge" title="Stonehenge">Stonehenge</a> article. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-MtPenguinMonster-20240620121500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20240620121500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MtPenguinMonster-20240620121500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Expand Scope</b> or <b>Merge</b> — The scope of the article should be expanded to cover <b>all</b> acts of vandalism to Stonehenge throughout history. If that cannot be agreed apon, then I support a complete merge (the entire article content) into <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil</a>. I would also encourage other editors to consider the scope expansion. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620121600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620121600-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SystemPhantom-20240620161600-WeatherWriter-20240620121600"></span>I agree. "Vandalism of Stonehenge" suggests the article is about the concept of vandalism of Stonehenge and is confusing when it turns out to be about one specific incident. <a href="/wiki/User:SystemPhantom" title="User:SystemPhantom">SystemPhantom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SystemPhantom" title="User talk:SystemPhantom">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-SystemPhantom-20240620161600-WeatherWriter-20240620121600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SystemPhantom-20240620161600-WeatherWriter-20240620121600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SystemPhantom-20240620161600-WeatherWriter-20240620121600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20240620143200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Keep</b> - and expand scope. There must have been similar incident etc in the past. Sourcs are good and notability fow now obvious.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-BabbaQ-20240620143200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20240620143200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20240620143200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-BabbaQ-20240620143200"></span>I regard that as an unncessary content fork - there's not enough on this in the main <a href="/wiki/Stonehenge" title="Stonehenge">Stonehenge</a> article to warrant it. When there is, then such a fork would be worth considering. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-BabbaQ-20240620143200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-BabbaQ-20240620143200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-BabbaQ-20240620143200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Merge</b> Incident appears to be a run of the mill publicity stunt with no long term significance specific to this event. Subject fails <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LASTING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LASTING">WP:LASTING</a>, <s><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GEOSCOPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GEOSCOPE">WP:GEOSCOPE</a></s>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SENSATIONAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SENSATIONAL">WP:SENSATIONAL</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:10YT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:10YT">WP:10YT</a>. Arguably this is a good example of why we should not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DELAY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DELAY">rush to create articles</a> about recent events. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"></span>I strongly agree. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150000-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"></span>Agreed. While I appreciated the appearance of this entry when I was looking for more information on this breaking story, even then I was doubtful that it needed its own page. Also, it should be noted that I went to the Stonehenge page first, and either the incident hadn't been added yet or I somehow missed it, otherwise I wouldn't have gone to this page at all. <a href="/wiki/User:RogueLoreBard" title="User:RogueLoreBard">RogueLoreBard</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RogueLoreBard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:RogueLoreBard (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700-Ad_Orientem-20240620145900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164300-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700"></span>Note, I dispute your assessment <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> that this fails GEOSCOPE. I highly doubt the Associated Press, CNN, and Fox News are "local" sources around Stonehenge. The rest I do not have a direct disagreement with, but I wanted to go ahead and dispute the GEOSCOPE argument stated. <b>The <a href="/wiki/User:WeatherWriter" title="User:WeatherWriter">Weather Event Writer</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WeatherWriter" title="User talk:WeatherWriter">Talk Page)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-WeatherWriter-20240620164300-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164300-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WeatherWriter-20240620164300-RogueLoreBard-20240620162700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620164600-WeatherWriter-20240620164300"></span>That's a fair point. There was international coverage. Though it has dropped drastically even in the UK which does not bode well for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSTAINED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSTAINED">WP:SUSTAINED</a>. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Ad_Orientem-20240620164600-WeatherWriter-20240620164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620164600-WeatherWriter-20240620164300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20240620164600-WeatherWriter-20240620164300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iadmc-20240620150200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Better to <b>merge</b> into <a href="/wiki/Stonehenge" title="Stonehenge">Stonehenge</a> surely? Rather than <a href="/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil" title="Just Stop Oil">Just Stop Oil</a> —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF"><a href="/wiki/User:Iadmc" title="User:Iadmc"><span style="color: #0247FE"> Iadmc</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iadmc" title="Special:Contributions/Iadmc"><span style="color: black">♫</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iadmc" title="User talk:Iadmc"><span style="color: #0247FE">talk </span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Iadmc-20240620150200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iadmc-20240620150200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iadmc-20240620150200-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150500-Iadmc-20240620150200"></span>I didn't originally propose a merge at all, because there's already a more-than-sufficient mention of it in the Stonehenge article itself. (See the discussion on the talk page there about whether that's warranted.) The Just Stop Oil article needs some work in any case because it's tending to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROSELINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROSELINE">WP:PROSELINE</a> at the moment, but I don't feel qualified to say whether merging this page into it would help that issue. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150500-Iadmc-20240620150200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150500-Iadmc-20240620150200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20240620150500-Iadmc-20240620150200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-20240620181400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Delete or merge</b>. Article can be mentioned at both <a href="/wiki/Stonehenge" title="Stonehenge">Stonehenge</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Don%27t_Stop_Oil&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Don't Stop Oil (page does not exist)">Don't Stop Oil</a>, in due weight fashion. — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Amakuru-20240620181400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-20240620181400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-20240620181400-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sinclairian-20240620205500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Delete</b> or <b>merge</b>. No more notable than any of the other instances of immediately reversed vandalism from JSO. <a href="/wiki/User:Sinclairian" title="User:Sinclairian">Sinclairian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sinclairian" title="User talk:Sinclairian">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Sinclairian" title="User:Sinclairian">Sinclairian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sinclairian" title="User talk:Sinclairian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Sinclairian-20240620205500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sinclairian-20240620205500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sinclairian-20240620205500-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tim_O'Doherty-20240620210900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span>Delete</b> - Stonehenge has been around 4,000 years and it'll be around 4,000 more. A feeble double act of environmental suffragettes taking 30 seconds to sprinkle orange flour over two of the stones doesn't warrant a mention in the main article, let alone its own. <a href="/wiki/User:Tim_O%27Doherty" title="User:Tim O'Doherty">Tim O'Doherty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tim_O%27Doherty" title="User talk:Tim O'Doherty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge#c-Tim_O'Doherty-20240620210900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tim_O'Doherty-20240620210900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tim_O'Doherty-20240620210900-GenevieveDEon-20240620085500"></span></li></ul></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge&oldid=1230142325">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vandalism_of_Stonehenge&oldid=1230142325</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:AfD_debates_(Places_and_transportation)" title="Category:AfD debates (Places and transportation)">AfD debates (Places and transportation)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:AfD_debates" title="Category:AfD debates">AfD debates</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 20 June 2024, at 22:31<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span class="nowraplinks">This version of the page has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">revised</a>. 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