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class="vector-toc-link" href="#Detailed_review_per_section"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3</span> <span>Detailed review per section</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Detailed_review_per_section-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Lead" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lead"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.1</span> <span>Lead</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Lead-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Methods" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Methods"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.2</span> <span><s>Methods</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Methods-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Early_critiques" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Early_critiques"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.3</span> <span><s>Early critiques</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Early_critiques-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Contemporary_critiques" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Contemporary_critiques"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.4</span> <span><s>Contemporary critiques</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Contemporary_critiques-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pre-existing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pre-existing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.5</span> <span><s>Pre-existing</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Pre-existing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Detection" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Detection"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.6</span> <span><s>Detection</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Detection-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Technical" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Technical"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.7</span> <span><s>Technical</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Technical-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Emergent_bias" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Emergent_bias"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.8</span> <span><s>Emergent bias</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Emergent_bias-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Correlations" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Correlations"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.9</span> <span><s>Correlations</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Correlations-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Unanticipated_uses" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Unanticipated_uses"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.10</span> <span><s>Unanticipated uses</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Unanticipated_uses-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Feedback_loops" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Feedback_loops"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.11</span> <span>Feedback loops</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Feedback_loops-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Examples" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Examples"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.12</span> <span>Examples</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Examples-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Voting_behavior" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Voting_behavior"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.13</span> <span>Voting behavior</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Voting_behavior-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gender_discrimination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gender_discrimination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.14</span> <span>Gender discrimination</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Gender_discrimination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sexual_discrimination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sexual_discrimination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.15</span> <span>Sexual discrimination</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Sexual_discrimination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lack_of_transparency" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lack_of_transparency"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.16</span> <span>Lack of transparency</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Lack_of_transparency-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Complexity" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Complexity"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.17</span> <span>Complexity</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Complexity-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.18</span> <span>Lack of data about sensitive categories</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_change" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rapid_pace_of_change"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.19</span> <span>Rapid pace of change</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_change-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_dissemination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rapid_pace_of_dissemination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.20</span> <span>Rapid pace of dissemination</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_dissemination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Europe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Europe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.21</span> <span>Europe</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Europe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-US" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#US"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.3.22</span> <span>US</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-US-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-May_2018" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#May_2018"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.4</span> <span>May 2018</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-May_2018-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-June_2018" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#June_2018"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.5</span> <span>June 2018</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-June_2018-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GA_progress" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GA_progress"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4.6</span> <span>GA progress</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-GA_progress-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Moved_section_Detection" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Moved_section_Detection"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Moved section Detection</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Moved_section_Detection-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Second_GA_nomination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Second_GA_nomination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Second GA nomination</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Second_GA_nomination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GA_Review_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GA_Review_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>GA Review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">32 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-GA_Review_2-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle GA Review subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-GA_Review_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Overview_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Overview_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.1</span> <span><s>Overview</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Overview_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Detailed_review_per_section_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Detailed_review_per_section_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2</span> <span><s>Detailed review per section</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Detailed_review_per_section_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Voting_behavior_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Voting_behavior_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.1</span> <span><s>Voting behavior</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Voting_behavior_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gender_discrimination_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gender_discrimination_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.2</span> <span><s>Gender discrimination</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Gender_discrimination_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Racial_discrimination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Racial_discrimination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.3</span> <span><s>Racial discrimination</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Racial_discrimination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Challenges" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Challenges"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.4</span> <span><s>Challenges</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Challenges-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_change_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rapid_pace_of_change_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.5</span> <span><s>Rapid pace of change</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Rapid_pace_of_change_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.6</span> <span><s>Lack of consensus about goals and criteria</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Europe_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Europe_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.7</span> <span><s>Europe</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Europe_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-United_States" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#United_States"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.2.8</span> <span><s>United States</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-United_States-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Third_reading" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Third_reading"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.3</span> <span><s>Third reading</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Third_reading-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Broadness" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Broadness"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.4</span> <span><s>Broadness</s></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Broadness-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-July_2018" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#July_2018"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7.5</span> 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg/25px-Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg/38px-Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Technology" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Technology">Technology</a> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles class-ga">GA‑class</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" 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Further details are available <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Salem_State_University/Media_Literacy,_Section_01_(Spring_2020)" title="Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Salem State University/Media Literacy, Section 01 (Spring 2020)">on the course page</a>. Student editor(s): <a href="/wiki/User:Botchedway" title="User:Botchedway">Botchedway</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/Botchedway/0/Algorithmic+bias">article contribs</a>). Peer reviewers: <a href="/wiki/User:Zachpiroh23" title="User:Zachpiroh23">Zachpiroh23</a>. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"],"text":"Stub for now, plenty more to come","linkableTitle":"Stub for now, plenty more to come"}--><h2 id="Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z"><span id="Stub_for_now.2C_plenty_more_to_come"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z"></span>Stub for now, plenty more to come<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come","timestamp":"2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"],"text":"Stub for now, plenty more to come","linkableTitle":"Stub for now, plenty more to come"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"></span>Please give me some time to flesh this stub out. There are plenty of sources available on the topic, which has been widely covered in the pop press (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2015-05-25/violence-algorithms">here</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/2016/03/14/470427605/can-computers-be-racist-the-human-like-bias-of-algorithms">here</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wired.com/2017/02/keep-ai-turning-racist-monster/">here</a> but there are also massive reading lists compiled from a variety of high-quality academic resources. See examples <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://socialmediacollective.org/reading-lists/critical-algorithm-studies/">here</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://auditingalgorithms.wordpress.com/background-readings/">here</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://governingalgorithms.org/resources/reading-list/">here</a>. Thanks! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-11-17T06:58:00.000Z-Stub_for_now,_plenty_more_to_come"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"],"text":"Facial recognition","linkableTitle":"Facial recognition"}--><h2 id="Facial_recognition" data-mw-thread-id="h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"></span>Facial recognition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z","timestamp":"2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Facial_recognition-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"],"text":"Facial recognition","linkableTitle":"Facial recognition"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"></span>There's a sentence in this section that states "Software was assessed at identifying men more frequently than women..." - should this not read as "Software was assessed <u>as</u> identifying men more frequently than women..."? If the first version is correct, do we not need to know the results? <a href="/wiki/User:PaleCloudedWhite" title="User:PaleCloudedWhite">PaleCloudedWhite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaleCloudedWhite" title="User talk:PaleCloudedWhite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:10, 9 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z-Facial_recognition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"></span>Good catch, <a href="/wiki/User:PaleCloudedWhite" title="User:PaleCloudedWhite">PaleCloudedWhite</a>. It's been corrected. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-09T11:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:PaleCloudedWhite" title="User:PaleCloudedWhite">PaleCloudedWhite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaleCloudedWhite" title="User talk:PaleCloudedWhite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 10 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaleCloudedWhite-2017-12-10T12:15:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2017-12-09T22:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_GA_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_GA_review"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_GA_review"></span>First GA review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_GA_review"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-First_GA_review","replies":[]}}--></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1250141580">.mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#EDEAFF;color:inherit;padding:0 0.6em;border:1px solid #8779DD}.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#c3c3c3;color:inherit;text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media(min-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result{width:30%}}</style><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. 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href="https://iw.toolforge.org/copyvios/%3Flang%3Den%26project%3Dwikipedia%26oldid%3D%26action%3Dsearch%26use_engine%3D1%26use_links%3D1%26turnitin%3D1%26title%3DAlgorithmic_bias" class="extiw" title="toolforge:copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=&action=search&use engine=1&use links=1&turnitin=1&title=Algorithmic bias">Copyvio detector</a></li><li><a href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/Algorithmic_bias" class="extiw" title="xtools:authorship/en.wikipedia.org/Algorithmic bias">Authorship</a></li><li><a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/link-dispenser/analyze/Algorithmic_bias" class="extiw" title="toolforge:link-dispenser/analyze/Algorithmic bias">External links</a></li></ul></div></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> Reviewing</th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <div class="plainlist"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/templates" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations/templates">Templates</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Good article criteria">Criteria</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Instructions#Reviewing" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Instructions">Instructions</a></li></ul></div></td> </tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><i>This review is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Transclusion">transcluded</a> from <a href="/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias/GA1" title="Talk:Algorithmic bias/GA1">Talk:Algorithmic bias/GA1</a>. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.</i></dd></dl> <p><b>Reviewer:</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham">Farang Rak Tham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Farang_Rak_Tham" title="Special:Contributions/Farang Rak Tham">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T11:54:00.000Z-GA_Review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T11:54:00.000Z-GA_Review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-30T11:54:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T11:54:00.000Z-GA_Review","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T11:54:00.000Z-GA_Review"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Introduction_and_limitations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Introduction_and_limitations-GA_Review"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Introduction_and_limitations-GA_Review"></span>Introduction and limitations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Introduction_and_limitations-GA_Review"></span></h3></div> <p>Before starting this review, I'd like to state that I have little knowledge on the subject, apart from a few news reports. I do think it is a very essential subject, and will be more and more so in the near future. You will have to bear with me, because I am a newbie on this topic, but then again, for GA, you cannot be too technical, so this may turn out just well. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Overview" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overview-GA_Review-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overview-GA_Review-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span>Overview<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overview-GA_Review-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-Overview"></span>I have assessed the article at B now. </p> <dl><dd>1. Prose: <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Algorithmic+bias&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0">No copyright violations.</a></li> <li>The article reads well. You have made great attempts to get things explained to "dummies". Nevertheless, there are some parts left that are unclear. See detailed review below.</li></ul></dd> <dd>2. MOS: <ul><li>Remove citations in the lead which are already in the body of the article per Lead section policy, unless there are some very controversial statements in there.</li> <li>Though not required by any criteria, you might consider using shortened footnotes using the {{sfn}} template, which looks cleaner than the {{rp}} system you have used now.</li></ul></dd> <dd>3. References layout: <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webchecklinks.py?page=Algorithmic_bias#view:0.1.1.1.1.1">There are some dead or inaccessible links in the article</a>, which you might want to replace with other online links or archived links. Don't remove dead links though.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>There was only one dead link actually, and I've replaced it with a reference to the book where the article appears. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-Overview" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 4 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-Overview"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-Overview","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-Overview"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span>"us 7113917" should be expanded, in case the url dies, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LINKROT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LINKROT">WP:LINKROT</a>.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Fixed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:04:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span>4. Reliable sources: <ul><li><i>shirky.com</i>, <i>Bitch Magazine</i> and <i>Culture Digitally</i> read more like blogs or essays than news coverage, and you should cite them as primary sources, using inline attribution (According to <i>Bitch Magazine</i> ...) and not the voice of Wikipedia. If possible, try to corroborate information from sources with data from independent, secondary, reliable sources, which will also help to show evidence of notability and relevance for the opinions quoted. You have already done this correctly with the Shirky website.</li> <li>The rest of the sources are reliable enough.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>I respectfully disagree. <a href="/wiki/Bitch_(magazine)" title="Bitch (magazine)">Bitch</a> is a magazine with a history of editorial oversight and fact-checking, the article itself is a summary of the author's PhD thesis and dissertation, though it is a feminist magazine, that's irrelevant to the fact that it is cited in support of. Additionally, Culture Digitally is a blog run by the National Science Foundation as an explainer for scientific concepts; I don't know if I would call the National Science Foundation unreliable? And as mentioned, Clay Shirky is cited as you described. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1"></span>5. Original research: None found.</dd> <dd>6. Broadness: I believe this topic has been covered in popular culture such as <a href="/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series)" title="Person of Interest (TV series)">here</a>. If you can find reliable sources on this, you should add it, as it indicates how the topic is relevant for the public. <dl><dd><ul><li>I respect the suggestion but I don't think the popular culture section should be considered a requirement for GA status. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-04T23:59:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd>7. Focus: Yes.</dd> <dd>8. Neutral: Yes.</dd> <dd>9. Stable: article is stable.</dd> <dd>10-11. Pics: Relevant and tagged. Nicely done.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Detailed_review_per_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Detailed_review_per_section-GA_Review-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Detailed_review_per_section-GA_Review-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span>Detailed review per section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Detailed_review_per_section-GA_Review-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p>I will continue with a detailed review per section. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Lead" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lead-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lead-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span>Lead<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lead-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">... (such as a website or <u>app</u>) ...</q> Isn't <i>application</i> better for written language? <ul><li>Fixed and reworded. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span>There is one instance of the word left.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... even within a single use-case ...</q>and <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... even between users of the same service ...</q> seem to contradict.</s> <ul><li>Agree! Clarified. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Lead-1"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Methods" data-mw-thread-id="h-Methods-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Methods-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><s>Methods</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Methods-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... uncertainty bias ...</q> Isn't there somewhere this can wikilink to?</s> <ul><li>I could not find an article about this specific bias in algorithms. There's simply not a lot of articles about computational bias right now. We could wikilink it in red, but right now, links to uncertainty and other similar articles aren't appropriate to this very narrow idea. So, I'm passing on this suggestion for now. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"></span>Okay.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... algorithms may be flawed in ways that reveal personal information ...</q> Is this also part of the definition of <i>algorithmic bias</i>? It doesn't sound like bias to me; more like sloppiness. Am I missing something here?</s> <ul><li>You're correct, I was unclear. The issue is the stereotyping in marketing, shadow profiling, and other problems. Certainly data exposure is a problem, but that isn't algorithmic bias. I've fixed it to reflect the bias-associated problem rather than privacy ones. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Methods-1"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Early_critiques" data-mw-thread-id="h-Early_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Early_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><s>Early critiques</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Early_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Early_critiques"></span>This section is very difficult to read, and needs to be rewritten almost completely:</s> </p> <ul><li><ul><li>I've reorganized it a lot and tried to clarify all your points. Hopefully it's clearer now. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Early_critiques" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Early_critiques"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Early_critiques","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Early_critiques"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... human-derived operations ...</q>: you mean procedures and working methods as in real life?</s> <ul><li>I mean the models that humans created to solve math problems, basically - literally the order of operations. I've tried to make it a little clearer by explaining programs as a series of steps, etc. Let me know if it reads better now. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... are therefore understood to "embody law".</q> What does this mean?</s> <ul><li>I've tried to make it clear. They embody law in that they take a series of steps and repeat them across all inputs, becoming a "law" for how the program executes and never changing how it executes, regardless of what data is inserted into it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... computer programs changing perceptions of machines from transferring power to transferring information</q> How do computer programs change the perception of machines? Or do you mean <i>people's</i> perceptions of machines? Transferring power or information <i>to people</i>?</s> <ul><li>Good catch, that was pretty sloppy writing. Hopefully it's clearer now. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... if users interpret data in intuitive ways that cannot be formally communicated to, or from, a machine.</q> For example?</s> <ul><li>I think this is clear without an example, and because Weinstein was theorizing at the time, it would be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> to include a contemporary example if he didn't include them himself. I hope the examples given later in the article illustrate these concepts enough for the reader. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Weizenbaum stated that all data fed to a machine must reflect "human decisionmaking processes" which have been translated into rules for the computer to follow.</q> So, data must reflect processes, to translate into rules... So the rules are part of the data?</s> <ul><li>I've seperated his critique into two sections: Programs can be biased, and data can be biased. I hope that clears up the confusion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... and as a result, computer simulations can be built ...</q> As a result of imagining that world incompletely?</s></li><s> </s><li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... the results of such decisions ...</q> Whose decisions?</s> <ul><li>This got deleted in the rewrite, if the question lingers, let me know! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-5"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... why the decision was made ...</q> You mean, why the tourist made the decision?</s></li><s> </s><li><s>In what way are the coin tosses "correct"?</s> <ul><li>They aren't, which is Weizenbaum's point - I've tried to clarify it a bit. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-6"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Early_critiques"></span>Impressive rewrite. Excellent.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Early_critiques" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Early_critiques"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Early_critiques","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Early_critiques"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Contemporary_critiques" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contemporary_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Contemporary_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><s>Contemporary critiques</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Contemporary_critiques-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... natural results of the program's output ...</q> How can the code of a program be the result of a program?</s> <ul><li>Good catch, this was a needlessly complex sentence. Rewritten, should be clearer. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">These biases can create new patterns of behavior ...</q>, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Biases may also impact how society shapes itself ...</q> For example?</s> <ul><li>I love examples, but again, a lot of the critiques are kind of "theorizing" and I think it might be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> to say "here's an example of this" if nobody has specifically pointed to it as an example. If I find a third-party making that link, I would record it here, but it's not appropriate to draw that connection on my own until a reliable source says I should. :) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-1","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-1"></span> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"></span>Okay, but please specify <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... other elements of society ...</q> or <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... how society shapes ...</q>. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTOR">WP:NOTOR</a> may be helpful in this process. If you can't specify it, you need to find more sources. If all your secondary sources are very technical and niche-specific, try using <a href="/wiki/Tertiary_sources" class="mw-redirect" title="Tertiary sources">tertiary sources</a> like study books or encyclopedias instead. Or use popular sources written by scholars in the field--the "lay versions" of scholarly articles can often be found in news papers and popular magazines. Some of these are useful, especially when written by experts in the field. If you are unsure about the level of editorial oversight, just mention the source inline and you should be okay. Especially if those sources are written by scholars.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"></span></s><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-2","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span>I've gone ahead and summarized the research from the paper cited, hopefully this serves as an example that clarifies the meaning. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:47:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... weighed more heavily ...</q> You mean, people give more authority to decisions by algorithms? Or, perceive such decisions to be more authoritative?</s></li> <li>Fixed. A little redundant to the next quote, but I think it's useful to reiterate. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-2","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-2"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"></span>Indeed.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-3"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-3"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... language frames ...</q> I've wikilinked this now. Is my interpretation correct?</s> <ul><li>It wasn't, I was being too academic. I just meant the way the media or social media sites come up with language to describe stuff. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-3","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-3"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-4"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Sociologist Scott Lash has critiqued algorithms ...</q> Expand or wikilink important terms.</s> <ul><li>I tried explaining in text. There is no article for generative power, so I hope it makes sense in context. Let me know if it's still unclear. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-4","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Contemporary_critiques-4"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... they are a virtual means of generating actual ends ...</q> is still cryptic, but the closing sentence clarifies it.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T20:32:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-4"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Pre-existing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pre-existing-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pre-existing-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><s>Pre-existing</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pre-existing-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Such ideas may reflect ...</q> You mean the <i>bias</i> may reflect, right? You would not expect an institutional bias to reflect a personal bias. <i>Ideas</i> sounds like you are referring to the ideologies rather than the bias.</s> <ul><li>Yes, thanks. I've adjusted the language. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing"></span> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7"></span>The first sentence is much clearer. But I am still uncertain what this means: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... who also carry sets social, institutional, and cultural assumptions ...</q></s></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p><s>* <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">In a critical view ...</q> Whose critical view?</s> </p> <ul><li><ul><li>That was a needlessly confusing addition to the sentence, and I've cut it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-7"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing-1"></span>The example helps to explain the main points. </p> <ul><li><ul><li>Thanks! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing-1","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Pre-existing-1"></span></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">By attempting to appropriately articulate this logic into an algorithmic process, the BNAP inscribed the logic of the British Nationality Act into its algorithm.</q> This sentence seems to stay the same thing twice. Am I right?</s> <ul><li>Not quite. The distinction is there: they were trying to reproduce the logic of immigration law into the algorithm, and in doing so, inscribed the BN act into the software. Is that clearer? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T21:38:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Detection" data-mw-thread-id="h-Detection-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Detection-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z"></span><s>Detection</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Detection-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z-Detection"></span>I have moved this section to the talk page per <a href="/wiki/MOS:EMBED" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:EMBED">MOS:EMBED</a>.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z-Detection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z-Detection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z-Detection","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:08:00.000Z-Detection"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Technical" data-mw-thread-id="h-Technical-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Technical-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"></span><s>Technical</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Technical-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z-Technical"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Flaws in random number generation can also introduce bias into results.</q> How?</s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... what takes place beyond the camera's field of vision.</q> Raises questions. What could be there then?</s> <ul><li>Tackled these both in the section. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z-Technical" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z-Technical"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z-Technical","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z-Technical"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"></span>Scary...--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:02:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Emergent_bias" data-mw-thread-id="h-Emergent_bias-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Emergent_bias-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z"></span><s>Emergent bias</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Emergent_bias-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z-Emergent_bias"></span>drug breakthrough</i> is unusual English, unless you are referring to <a href="/wiki/Breakthrough_therapy" title="Breakthrough therapy">Breakthrough therapy</a>. <i>Development of a new drug</i>?</s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... clear outlines of authorship or personal responsibility ...</q> ... for that exclusion process?</s></li></ul> <ul><li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... a "lead member's" ...</q> How is it determined who is the lead?</s></li></ul> <ul><li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... it removed distant locations from their partner's preferences ...</q> Consider cutting this out to simplify.</s></li> <li>{<s>{tq|... high-rated schools ...}} You mean the schools the lead member preferred? <i>High-rated</i> could refer to many kinds of ratings.</s> <ul><li>Tackled all of these, I think it makes more sense now and is also shorter. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z-Emergent_bias" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z-Emergent_bias"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z-Emergent_bias","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:07:00.000Z-Emergent_bias"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Correlations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correlations-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correlations-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z"></span><s>Correlations</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correlations-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z-Correlations"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... compared to each other in practice.</q> Can <i>in practice</i> be removed?</s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... By "discrimination" against ...</q> Confusing and redundant. I would just write <i>By responding to</i> or <i>By selecting</i></s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... correlations can be inferred for reasons beyond the algorithm's ability to understand them.</q> "The algorithm draws conclusions from correlations, without being able to understand those correlations?"</s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... hospitals typically give ...</q> "hospitals without such a triage program"?</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Adjusted this section too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z-Correlations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z-Correlations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z-Correlations","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:12:00.000Z-Correlations"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Unanticipated_uses" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unanticipated_uses-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unanticipated_uses-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z"></span><s>Unanticipated uses</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unanticipated_uses-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z-Unanticipated_uses"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... machines may demand ...</q> machines may expect?</s></li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Also, certain metaphors ... For example, the British National Act Program ...</q> How is this a metaphor?</s></li> <li><s>How is this example of British citizenship an unanticipated audience?</s></li> <li><s>Does an ATM have algorithms?</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I see what you mean. I've seperated the two topics within this section, as they were being read as extensions of each other. They are two types of unanticipated users, and I hope that's clearer. The ATM was an example illustrating the concept, it wasn't meant to be about ATMs, I've removed it because I see how that's confusing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z-Unanticipated_uses" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z-Unanticipated_uses"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z-Unanticipated_uses","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:23:00.000Z-Unanticipated_uses"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Feedback_loops" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_loops-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_loops-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span>Feedback loops<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_loops-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z-Feedback_loops"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The simulation showed that public reports of crime could rise based on the sight of increased police activity, and could be interpreted by the software in modeling predictions of crime, and to encourage a further increase in police presence within the same neighborhoods.</q> Do you mean: "The simulation discovered a correlation between increased reports of crime and increased reports of police activity"? If that is what you mean, why did the simulation encourage <i>more</i> police in black neighborhoods? <ul><li>I don't mean that - I mean that reports of crime were often reported because people saw police cars. Weird, but true. I've tried to clarify. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z-Feedback_loops" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z-Feedback_loops"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z-Feedback_loops","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z-Feedback_loops"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span>And successfully so. But you have not explained yet what <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... the study ...</q> refers to.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T12:56:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span>Changed "the study" to "the simulation" so it's clear that the sentence refers to the same thing as the rest of the paragraph. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:18:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-14T22:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Examples" data-mw-thread-id="h-Examples-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Examples-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z"></span>Examples<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Examples-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z-Examples"></span>I recommend integrating the examples into the sections about the different kinds of bias. It will help to improve understanding those sections, and will make the narrative of the body more smooth and less repetitive. </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>That seems like a stylistic choice rather than one that is required for a GA. It would require an extensive rewrite of how the article is organized, which would jeopardize all progress made so far in the article toward GA status. As it stands, I feel the examples are relevant enough. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z-Examples" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z-Examples"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z-Examples","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:20:00.000Z-Examples"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Voting_behavior" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voting_behavior-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voting_behavior-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z"></span>Voting behavior<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voting_behavior-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z-Voting_behavior"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">A randomized trial of Facebook users showing an increased effect of 340,000 votes among users ...</q> This number has little meaning without context. You need to provide percentages or some other relative indication. Secondly, it isn't clear whether the friends of the users also saw the pro-voting messages. Thirdly, <i>pro-voting</i> is an unusual term. Maybe write <i>which encouraged voting</i> or something like that.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>The percentage is listed in the first line of the paragraph (a 20% swing). I let the raw number stand as that's how many additional votes resulted - I don't know how that isn't clear, given that we mentioned the percentage just two sentences earlier. I did change "pro-voting" to "which encouraged voting," thank you for the suggestion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z-Voting_behavior" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z-Voting_behavior"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z-Voting_behavior","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:25:00.000Z-Voting_behavior"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Gender_discrimination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gender_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gender_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Gender discrimination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gender_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination"></span>In fairness to Target, you might want to write they later adjusted their policies. I have read that in another book by Duhigg published in 2013.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Could you add this info? I can't find anything online that supports it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">This bias extends to the search ...</q> Sentence too long, better split.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Fixed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-1"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... that a suspect or prisoner will repeat a crime.</q> A suspect has not been proven to have committed a crime. <i>Perpetrator</i>? <dl><dd>You're right, at the point of sentencing they are still prisoners, I've adjusted the language accordingly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:52:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination-2"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Sexual_discrimination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sexual_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sexual_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z"></span>Sexual discrimination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sexual_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z-Sexual_discrimination"></span>Change <i>app</i> into <i>application</i>, as indicated above.</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... sex-offender lookup apps ...</q> You mean, applications with blacklists of sex-offenders?</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... saw 57,000 books de-listed ...</q> Delisted or put on a blacklist? <dl><dd>Clarified all above points. "Delisted" remains because they were delisted, not blacklisted. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z-Sexual_discrimination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z-Sexual_discrimination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z-Sexual_discrimination","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T00:57:00.000Z-Sexual_discrimination"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Lack_of_transparency" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lack_of_transparency-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lack_of_transparency-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z"></span>Lack of transparency<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lack_of_transparency-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Lack_of_transparency"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Commercial algorithms are proprietary, and may be treated as trade secrets.[9]:2[16]:7[35]:183 This protects companies ...</q> Trade secrets do not protect companies, <em>laws about trade secrets</em> protect companies.</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">This protects companies, such as a search engine, in cases where a transparent algorithm for ranking results would reveal techniques for manipulating the service.</q> Simplify.</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">It can also be used ...</q> The law can also be abused...</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The closed nature of the code ...</q> The companies are <i>closed</i>, the code is <i>hidden</i>: "The closed nature of the companies..."</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... as a certain degree of obscurity is protected by the complexity of contemporary programs ...</q> Move the part about complexity to the next paragraph.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>All fixed, some sections moved to "complexity." --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Lack_of_transparency" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Lack_of_transparency"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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programmers ...</q> You mean, "programmers within large teams ..."?</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... sprawling algorithmic processes ...</q> Wikilink or define inline what this means, or simplify it.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>All fixed in the combining of text from the transparency section. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Complexity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Complexity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Complexity","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:29:00.000Z-Complexity"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z"></span>Lack of data about sensitive categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories"></span>When sources refer explicitly to US law, please say so explicitly. Same holds fro EU law, for that matter. <ul><li>This is a general section about legal issues, when laws are mentioned I have categorized them as EU. Otherwise the section relates to various legal concerns under various systems and does not refer to any specific country's case law. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">A significant barrier to understanding tackling bias in practice is that categories, such as demographics of individuals protected by anti-discrimination law, are often not explicitly held by those collecting and processing data.</q> What does <i>holding a category</i> mean?</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Seemed like an editing scar, I clarified the sentence. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-1"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... insurance rates based on historical data of car accidents which may overlap with residential clusters of ethnic minorities.</q> Please explain further. How does this overlap? Which is false correlation?</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>The point is that they do not relate to each other, that's why it's a false correlation. I've specified that the case study presents a coincidental overlap. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:36:00.000Z-Lack_of_data_about_sensitive_categories-2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Rapid_pace_of_change" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rapid_pace_of_change-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rapid_pace_of_change-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z"></span>Rapid pace of change<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rapid_pace_of_change-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... can confuse attempts to understand them ...</q> To understand what?</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>The algorithm. I've repeated it for clarity. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change-1"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... segmenting the experience of an algorithm between users, or among the same users</q> Simplify.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Fixed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:39:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change-1"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Rapid_pace_of_dissemination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rapid_pace_of_dissemination-Detailed_review_per_section"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rapid_pace_of_dissemination-Detailed_review_per_section"></span>Rapid pace of dissemination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rapid_pace_of_dissemination-Detailed_review_per_section"></span></h4></div> <p>Please merge with section Rapid Pace of change, or expand this subsection. Normally, a GA article should not have one-line paragraphs or sections. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Europe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Europe-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Europe-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z"></span>Europe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Europe-Detailed_review_per_section-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z-Europe"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... non-binding recital ...</q> Wikilink from the first mention.</li> <li>Why do you keep using <i>alleged</i> throughout this section, when the law's content is already known, as it can be quoted from?</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">While these ...</q> These regulations?</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">While these are commonly considered to be new ...</q> Too long, split. And <i>original</i> and <i>originating</i> in the same sentence is awkward.</li> <li>What do you mean by <i>carve-outs</i> in this context?</li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The GDPR does address ...</q> Implies a contradiction or nuance. Or do you mean "The GDPR addresses..."</li></ul> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">It has been argued that ...</q> Too long, split.</li></ul> <ul><li><dl><dd>I didn't create this section but I have cleaned it up following all of your suggestions. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z-Europe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z-Europe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z-Europe","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-05T01:47:00.000Z-Europe"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="US" data-mw-thread-id="h-US-Detailed_review_per_section"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-US-Detailed_review_per_section"></span>US<span data-mw-comment-end="h-US-Detailed_review_per_section"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">... and uses.</q> Uses of what?</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="May_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-May_2018-GA_Review-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-May_2018-GA_Review-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"></span>May 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-May_2018-GA_Review-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z-May_2018"></span>I will continue this detailed review once I get a response from you.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z-May_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z-May_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z-May_2018","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z-May_2018"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"></span>Thank you <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a>! I will try to respond this weekend. Do feel free to continue with your assessment if you have more to say - I tend to prefer investing enormous chunks of time into tackling these problems rather than tackling them piecemeal, but of course how you review is up to you. Thank you for a thoughtful and constructive set of recommendations! -<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 2 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-02T03:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-05-30T13:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="June_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-June_2018-GA_Review-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-June_2018-GA_Review-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"></span>June 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-June_2018-GA_Review-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z-June_2018"></span>The prose in some sections still needs a lot of copy-editing work. Try using more active voice, and less passive voice. This will help.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z-June_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 2 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z-June_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z-June_2018","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z-June_2018"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"></span>Putting review on hold, as seven days have passed. You have indicated you still wish to pursue this, so I will give you another seven days. If you need even more time, you should specify a deadline yourself. The article is a very relevant subject worthy of the reader's attention, so it would certainly not be a waste of time to do some copy-editing on it.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-02T16:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham">Farang Rak Tham</a> - I did intend to tackle it on the weekend, however, some things had come up. I will take some time with the review this week, but could you extend the timeline to June 18 so I have time to address them all in a thorough manner? I know I am a bit of a lapsed editor but it's important for me to get this article to GA status as I have created it almost entirely myself from scratch, and am very invested in this outcome! I assure you I will not abandon your work and recommendations. Thanks! -<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-06T11:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z"></span>Okay. Hard work!--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 7 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-07T21:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z"></span>There is still the copy editing of the text to go through and correct, I'll get to it soon, but wanted to show a good faith effort to get some work done on this article in response to your excellent review. Thank you! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-07T21:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span>This article is very intensive in terms of copy-editing. But I will continue with it because it is very interesting material.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T23:22:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-08T01:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z-June_2018"></span> Phew, I finally finished the first check. Lots of subsections. I hope you will have the time to continue with it. Some sections have little comments, others have many. Let me know if you have any questions.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z-June_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z-June_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z-June_2018","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z-June_2018"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Owlsmcgee</a>, It has been over three weeks now, and beyond the deadline which you set yourself. I am giving you until Sunday to correct the prose in the article, failing which i will have to fail the article for GA.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-15T14:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z"></span>Farang Rak Tham</a> Given the enormous list of corrections, there's simply no way I can get them all done by Sunday. Feel free to fail this article as a GA and I'll resubmit after tackling the list on my own time. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-21T07:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z"></span>Owlsmcgee</a>, okay, but if you still want to work on it this weekend, I am willing to wait a bit. We can then see how far we can get. Whatever we do now, we don't have to do later. Up to you.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-22T16:10:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-06-22T04:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="GA_progress" data-mw-thread-id="h-GA_progress-GA_Review"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GA_progress-GA_Review"></span>GA progress<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GA_progress-GA_Review"></span></h3></div> <table role="presentation" border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="10" align="center"> <tbody><tr align="center"> <td style="border: 1px solid #BBB;" width="775pt"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAN">Good Article</a> review progress box</b> <table role="presentation"> <tbody><tr> <td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Good article criteria">Criteria</a>:</b> 1a. <b>prose (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Unknown"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/16px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/24px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/32px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></span></span>)</b> 1b. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">MoS</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Unknown"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/16px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/24px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/32px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></span></span>)</b> 2a. <b><a href="/wiki/MOS:NOTES" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NOTES">ref layout</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2b. <b>cites <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Unknown"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/16px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/24px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/32px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></span></span>)</b> 2c. <b>no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2d. <b>no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CV">WP:CV</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Unknown"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/16px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/24px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/32px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></span></span>)</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>3a. <b>broadness (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 3b. <b>focus (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 4. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutral</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 5. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EW">stable</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 6a. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IUP">free or tagged images</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 6b. <b>pics relevant (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td><small><em>Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GACR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GACR">Good Article criteria</a>. Criteria marked <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_comment_2.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/14px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/21px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/28px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></a></span> are unassessed</em></small> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"],"text":"Moved section Detection","linkableTitle":"Moved section Detection"}--><h2 id="Moved_section_Detection" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z"></span>Moved section Detection<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection","timestamp":"2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Moved_section_Detection-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"],"text":"Moved section Detection","linkableTitle":"Moved section Detection"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cobanyastigi" title="User:Cobanyastigi"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"></span>Cobanyastigi</a>, I have removed this content, because it needs to be integrated as prose into the article. Simply stated, writing a Wikipedia article is not preparing a Powerpoint presentation: you need to write, not just list things. Please read <a href="/wiki/MOS:EMBED" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:EMBED">MOS:EMBED</a> first, and while you are at it, study <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> as well.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 8 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-06-08T21:02:00.000Z-Moved_section_Detection"></span> </p><p>There are several attempts to create methods and tools to detect and observe interacting biases in the training data: </p> <ul><li>Google: <sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li>Microsoft: bias-dashboard<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>,</li> <li>Facebook: fairness-flow<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>,</li> <li>Pymetrics: audit-ai (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/pymetrics/audit-ai">open source</a>)<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>,</li> <li>Aequitas: Bias and Fairness Audit Toolkit (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/afcarl/aequitas">open source</a>)<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>,</li> <li>IBM: <sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li></ul> <style 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Supervised Learning</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/25/microsoft-is-developing-a-tool-to-help-engineers-catch-bias-in-algorithms/">https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/25/microsoft-is-developing-a-tool-to-help-engineers-catch-bias-in-algorithms/</a> Microsoft is developing a tool to help engineers catch bias in algorithms</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://qz.com/1268520/facebook-says-it-has-a-tool-to-detect-bias-in-its-artificial-intelligence/">https://qz.com/1268520/facebook-says-it-has-a-tool-to-detect-bias-in-its-artificial-intelligence/</a> Facebook says it has a tool to detect bias in its artificial intelligence</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://venturebeat-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/venturebeat.com/2018/05/31/pymetrics-open-sources-audit-ai-an-algorithm-bias-detection-tool/amp/">https://venturebeat-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/venturebeat.com/2018/05/31/pymetrics-open-sources-audit-ai-an-algorithm-bias-detection-tool/amp/</a> Pymetrics open-sources Audit AI, an algorithm bias detection tool</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-6">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://dsapp.uchicago.edu/aequitas/">http://dsapp.uchicago.edu/aequitas/</a> open-sources Audit AI, Aequitas at University of Chocago</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-7">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2018/02/mitigating-bias-ai-models/">https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2018/02/mitigating-bias-ai-models/</a> Mitigating Bias in AI Models</span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Second_GA_nomination-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination"],"text":"Second GA nomination","linkableTitle":"Second GA nomination"}--><h2 id="Second_GA_nomination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Second_GA_nomination-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Second_GA_nomination-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"></span>Second GA nomination<span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Second_GA_nomination-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination"],"text":"Second GA nomination","linkableTitle":"Second GA nomination"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination"></span>Owlsmcgee</a>, currently the GA nomination has already been failed. However, i see you have been working very hard to improve the article. If you would like to continue the GA nomination, you could consider nominating the article again for GA, and i can review, if you'd like me to.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 5 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z-Second_GA_nomination"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"></span>I have re-submitted for GA, if you're happy to review it based on the feedback and responses <a href="/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias/GA1" title="Talk:Algorithmic bias/GA1">here</a>, I'd be happy for your efforts! Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-06T21:11:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-05T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. 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The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.</i></dd></dl> <p><b>Reviewer:</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham">Farang Rak Tham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Farang_Rak_Tham" title="Special:Contributions/Farang Rak Tham">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T16:15:00.000Z-GA_Review_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T16:15:00.000Z-GA_Review_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-10T16:15:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T16:15:00.000Z-GA_Review_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T16:15:00.000Z-GA_Review_2"></span> </p><p><br/> I'll be doing this. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/20px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/30px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/40px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span>16:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Overview_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overview_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overview_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"></span><s>Overview</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overview_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Overview_2"></span>In some parts, I'll refer to the first review, and won't copy all of that here. </p> <dl><dd>1. Prose: See detailed review below. No copyright violations.</dd> <dd>2. MOS: <ul><li>Remove citations in the lead which are already in the body of the article per Lead section policy, unless there are some very controversial statements in there.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Done! --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Overview_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Overview_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Overview_2","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Overview_2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"></span>3. References layout: No problems.</dd> <dd>4. Reliable sources: Yes. Responding to your explanation given in the previous nomination, it is advisable to attempt to access Noble's original 2012 thesis, but not required per GA criteria.</dd> <dd>5. Original research: None found.</dd> <dd>6. Broadness: will check this later per secondary sources. Whether popular culture should be included depends on whether this is sufficiently covered by RS.</dd> <dd>7. Focus: As stated in the previous review, the example sections should be integrated in the other sections. The article's narrative is full of examples, so a separate section with examples is certainly redundant. I do think some of the examples are useful, but can they be integrated with the impact or types sections? <dl><dd><ul><li>Done! Sections have been integrated into the sections on forms of bias, and early examples into the early history. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd>8. Neutral: Yes.</dd> <dd>9. Stable: article is stable.</dd> <dd>10-11. Pics: Relevant and tagged.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Detailed_review_per_section_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Detailed_review_per_section_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Detailed_review_per_section_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"></span><s>Detailed review per section</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Detailed_review_per_section_2-GA_Review_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p>I'll do the lead at the end, though previous comments about the lead have all been addressed by nominator. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Voting_behavior_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voting_behavior_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voting_behavior_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"></span><s>Voting behavior</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voting_behavior_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z-Voting_behavior_2"></span>It isn't quite clear that the 20% and the 340,000 votes is the same group of people.</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Clarified --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z-Voting_behavior_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z-Voting_behavior_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z-Voting_behavior_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:15:00.000Z-Voting_behavior_2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Gender_discrimination_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gender_discrimination_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gender_discrimination_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"></span><s>Gender discrimination</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gender_discrimination_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2"></span>There are updates on Google's execution of the plans. They're mentioned briefly on Noble's blog.</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>I've made it more explicit. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2-1"></span>I'll check about Target later. It's in Duhigg's 2013 book about habits, but i can't remember it well. Something about being less aggressive about showing their predictions. May not be relevant.</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>If you can find it, great, but I agree it's not absolutely needed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2-1","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z-Gender_discrimination_2-1"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.nl/books?id=c12idXqsE5cC&printsec=frontcover&dq=duhigg+habit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZxPmKpsbcAhURJlAKHSpcAwIQ6AEINDAC#v=onepage&q=step%20back&f=false"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"></span>It's here.</a> Andrew Pole worked for Target. Up to you whether to include it in the article.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Racial_discrimination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Racial_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Racial_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z"></span><s>Racial discrimination</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Racial_discrimination-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z-Racial_discrimination"></span>Do you mean the scores from 1920-1970 are shared to judges?</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>No, I mean that for the 50 years between 1920 and 1970, this score included the nationality of the criminal's father. I've clarified. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z-Racial_discrimination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z-Racial_discrimination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z-Racial_discrimination","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:23:00.000Z-Racial_discrimination"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Challenges" data-mw-thread-id="h-Challenges-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Challenges-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"></span><s>Challenges</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Challenges-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><s><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Challenges"></span>Challenge</i> is an euphemism for <i>problem</i>. Reword per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WTW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WTW">WP:WTW</a>. It's fuzzy, but part of GA, I'm afraid.</s> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>Changed the section to a more specific "obstacles to research" which is what it's about, thanks for the suggestion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Challenges" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Challenges"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Challenges","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Challenges"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Rapid_pace_of_change_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rapid_pace_of_change_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rapid_pace_of_change_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"></span><s>Rapid pace of change</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rapid_pace_of_change_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change_2"></span>Can this be merged with subsection Complexity?</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>Definitely a good idea. I've done so. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:37:00.000Z-Rapid_pace_of_change_2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z"></span><s>Lack of consensus about goals and criteria</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"></span>This section is not very clearly written. <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">the availability of loans from a bank ...</q> Complex and difficult to read, please rephrase.</li> <li>Please check the rest of the section as well.</li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>Though perhaps not ideal, I've just removed this section outright, as it didn't make much sense to me upon re-reading it. It seemed to be about why and how biased algorithms get deployed in the first place, but these are handled in other sections and in more coherent ways. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:43:00.000Z-Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Europe_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Europe_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Europe_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z"></span><s>Europe</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Europe_2-Detailed_review_per_section_2-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2"></span>Has the GDPR been implemented yet? I know there have been a number of privacy laws that have been implemented in Holland recently, though I am not sure whether this is based on European law. <ul><li><dl><dd>It has been. I've removed "the "to be implemented" and made it past tense. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-1"></span>What are <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">heavy exceptions</q>? <ul><li><dl><dd>I didn't write this section, but it seems odd that we are talking about laws that "weren't used often due to heavy exceptions" prior to the GDPR -- seems this section should focus on what the current regulation says, not whether past policies were effective or widely used. I've removed that piece and I think it simplifies the passage significantly, while keeping its focus on the most relevant information for this article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-1"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-2"></span>Please wikilink <i>recital</i> at the first mention.</li> <li><s><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">as such rights may fatigue individuals who are too overburdened to use them effectively.</q> Please clarify.</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>It just means that consumers don't have to complain. I've tried to simplify that language a bit. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T20:52:00.000Z-Europe_2-2"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="United_States" data-mw-thread-id="h-United_States-Detailed_review_per_section_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-United_States-Detailed_review_per_section_2"></span><s>United States</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-United_States-Detailed_review_per_section_2"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">It also recommended ...</q> Was anything done with these recommendations?</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>Clarified in text that these were guidance for a strategy. Nothing was done on a regulatory scale, however, I've added a section describing the first US law on algorithms, which was a task force created in New York City. Relevant as the first of its kind. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>)</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Third_reading" data-mw-thread-id="h-Third_reading-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Third_reading-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z"></span><s>Third reading</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Third_reading-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Third_reading"></span>Three more comments: </p> <ul><li><s>could "Online Hate Speech" and "surveillance" become subsections in the section "racial discrimination"? Perhaps the header should be edited, e.g. <i>racial and ethnic discrimination</i>.</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Done. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Third_reading" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Third_reading"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Third_reading","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z","c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-1","c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Third_reading"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"></span>The section on regulation has not been summarized in the lead yet.</s></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Sparse content for the lead (really only the GDPR is lead-worthy) but I've included it, just stating the fact. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-1"></span>I felt that the lead does not adequately explain yet why the subject is so alarming and important, and worthy of study. This should be addressed more, per <a href="/wiki/MOS:INTRO" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:INTRO">MOS:INTRO</a>.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>I disagree that this is neccesary... the article lead is not intended to convince anyone why it is important. Wikipedia is there to provide information about the topic, not persuade people to find it important. If someone is looking for an explanation of what algorithmic bias is, they can find it in the lead now, I think. If they don't think discrimination and bias is important, it's not our job to convince them. Wikipedia is neutral, above all else. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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such as "acclaimed" or "award-winning" or "hit").</q>--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:33:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:33:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:03:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Broadness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Broadness-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Broadness-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z"></span><s>Broadness</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Broadness-GA_Review_2-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness"></span>Popular culture does not appear to be mentioned much in secondary sources (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.futurity.org/biometric-mirror-artificial-intelligence-bias-1820442-2/">just something about <i>Minority report</i> here</a>), so this can be skipped for GA.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Great, agree. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alex_London/publication/318830422_Algorithmic_Bias_in_Autonomous_Systems/links/5a4bb017aca2729b7c893d1b/Algorithmic-Bias-in-Autonomous-Systems.pdf"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z-Broadness"></span>Here,</a> here (<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1215%2F07402775-3813015">10.1215/07402775-3813015</a>) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://trustworthy-algorithms.org/whitepapers/Bo%20Cowgill.pdf">and here</a> interventions are mentioned to prevent or decrease algorithmic bias. You haven't mentioned this much.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>The first article linked is a summary of ethical problems posed by algorithms and an attempt at a taxonomy, which I've already created based on a more widely-cited paper. It also essentially says that algorithmic bias isn't a problem unless it has real-world consequences, which is already addressed in the article. The second outlines some attempts by Google and Microsoft, which I've added to the end of the history section. The third is interesting but isn't actually proposing mitigation, it's instead proposing an alternative form of measuring algorithmic bias; however, it is only a working paper (a proposal for research) and hasn't actually been tested. Once there are results of an actual research study instead of a proposal, I'll be eager to incorporate that into a broader section on mitigation. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z-Broadness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z-Broadness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z-Broadness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:50:00.000Z-Broadness"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://hbr.org/2018/07/want-less-biased-decisions-use-algorithms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness-1"></span>Algorithms can sometimes be better than human decisions</a>. This is not mentioned in the article. <dl><dd>Great find. I've included it as the first line in the "contemporary critiques and responses" section, to help set the context. Because the article is about the problem of bias in algorithms, I don't think it is essential to delve into all of the algorithms that are unbiased, which seems a bit like listing all the horses that a car is not. But, I think for equal weight and context, this is an important perspective, so I have introduced it very early in the section, though briefly. I think it's fair. --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-31T04:49:00.000Z-Broadness-1"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z-Broadness"></span>That's all: the article is comprehensive in describing the problem and its origins.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z-Broadness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)</a></s><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z-Broadness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z-Broadness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T08:29:00.000Z-Broadness"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z-Broadness"></span>Okay. I think the broadness of the article passes.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z-Broadness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z-Broadness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z-Broadness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:35:00.000Z-Broadness"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="July_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-July_2018-GA_Review_2-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-July_2018-GA_Review_2-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"></span>July 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-July_2018-GA_Review_2-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z-July_2018"></span>Waiting for your responses.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z-July_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 10 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z-July_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z-July_2018","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z-July_2018"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a>. I will tackle these soon — I know the GA process should take about a week, but I've just seen these notes now. If it's at all possible to give me until the end of July to tackle this I would appreciate it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 15 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-10T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/40px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span>--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-15T18:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 19 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-15T20:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Up to date, <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a>! Have a look and let me know what you think. Thanks again! --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z","author":"Owlsmcgee","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-19T12:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z"></span>I am glad you are continuing with this.<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/20px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/30px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/40px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span> I'll take another look.--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z-Owlsmcgee-2018-07-28T21:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z"></span>Having looked at the lead again, I think your recent edits sufficiently address the noteworthiness of the subject matter. I don't see any reason not to pass the article for GA. Congratulations! I am happy to see you made it through. Perhaps you will think I have been a rather fuzzy reviewer, but I would not want to get the article delisted at a later time by some other editor that comes along and doesn't know how much effort you put into this.</dd> <dd>If you have time sometimes, feel free to also review one of my GA nominations at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN#REL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAN">WP:GAN#REL</a>. See you around! <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/20px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/30px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sert_-_happy_smile.svg/40px-Sert_-_happy_smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span>--<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"><a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User talk:Farang Rak Tham">(Talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z","author":"Farang Rak Tham","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Owlsmcgee-2018-08-01T06:18:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-30T07:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-08-01T06:18:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for all of the thoughtful attention, <a href="/wiki/User:Farang_Rak_Tham" title="User:Farang Rak Tham"><span style="color:blue;font-weight:900">Farang Rak Tham</span></a>. I appreciate your patience as well! --<a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Owlsmcgee-2018-08-01T06:18:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Owlsmcgee-2018-08-01T06:18:00.000Z-Farang_Rak_Tham-2018-07-31T07:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Article</a> review progress box</b> <table role="presentation"> <tbody><tr> <td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Good article criteria">Criteria</a>:</b> 1a. <b>prose (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 1b. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">MoS</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2a. <b><a href="/wiki/MOS:NOTES" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NOTES">ref layout</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2b. <b>cites <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2c. <b>no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 2d. <b>no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CV">WP:CV</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Unknown"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/16px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/24px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/32px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></span></span>)</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td>3a. <b>broadness (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 3b. <b>focus (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 4. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutral</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 5. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EW">stable</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 6a. <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IUP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IUP">free or tagged images</a> (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> 6b. <b>pics relevant (<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Pass"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>)</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td><small><em>Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GACR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GACR">Good Article criteria</a>. Criteria marked <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_comment_2.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/14px-Symbol_comment_2.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/21px-Symbol_comment_2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Symbol_comment_2.png/28px-Symbol_comment_2.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="180"/></a></span> are unassessed</em></small> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"],"text":"Recent deletion by user:\u200eOwlsmcgee\u00a0: Lack of consensus about goals and criteria","linkableTitle":"Recent deletion by user:Owlsmcgee : Lack of consensus about goals and criteria"}--><h2 id="Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Recent deletion by user:Owlsmcgee : Lack of consensus about goals and criteria<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria","timestamp":"2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"],"text":"Recent deletion by user:\u200eOwlsmcgee\u00a0: Lack of consensus about goals and criteria","linkableTitle":"Recent deletion by user:Owlsmcgee : Lack of consensus about goals and criteria"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"></span>@Owlsmcgee : The two paragraphs deleted <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Algorithmic_bias&curid=55817338&diff=852413318&oldid=852412741">in this modification</a> illustrate new ways people are discriminated. In one case because of company internal politics (should loans be granted based on the short term profit or based on image of the company in the public eye - i.e. long term goodwill?), and in the other case because of company interests of a quasimonopolist with that of the society at large (users that have Facebok as their news source get discriminated in what news they receive by being offered news that generate more clicks rather than news that reflect society better, users that have Youtube as their opinion forming content get discriminated by being offered more and more radical videos in an attempt to keep them watching). </p><p>May be these paragraphs should instead of being deleted, be relocated in the article as emergent or unintended impact? </p><p>I believe it is always more challenging to do impartial scientific research in a politically charged environment but I agree it should not be. The issue is rather the challenge to take any corrective action on the bias when the conflict of the short term intentions of the actors with that of their own long term interests or with the better welfare of the society at large are the cause. The article seems to lack a section for "obstacles to corrective action". <a href="/wiki/User:Cobanyastigi" title="User:Cobanyastigi">Cobanyastigi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cobanyastigi" title="User talk:Cobanyastigi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z","author":"Cobanyastigi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cobanyastigi-2018-07-29T08:57:00.000Z-Recent_deletion_by_user:Owlsmcgee_:_Lack_of_consensus_about_goals_and_criteria"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FAC" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAC"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAC"></span>FAC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAC"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FAC","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I saw a TEDtalk on this subject! It was absolutely fascinating! It began with asking the audience, 'how many believe computer data is dependably neutral and always fair?' then he went on to spend a good half an hour talking about what amounted to a version of 'garbage in--garbage out'. His two primary examples were about a serial killer in Sweden I think--if I remember correctly--and Michelle Obama--who knew she had raised such emotional responses? His company had to prevent any mention of the two names for a few weeks--because the programmers were upset enough they were putting in data in a manner that was creating all kinds of false outcomes. I wish I felt qualified to review this for you because it seems timely and important. I just wanted to wish you well and tell you I really hope you are successful! Good luck! Jenhawk777 21:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"],"text":"Definition","linkableTitle":"Definition"}--><h2 id="Definition" data-mw-thread-id="h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z"></span>Definition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition","timestamp":"2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"],"text":"Definition","linkableTitle":"Definition"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"></span>The article body rightly says "algorithmic bias describes systematic and repeatable errors that create unfair outcomes, such as privileging one arbitrary group of users over others". But the lead described algorithmic bias as due to the values of the designers. One very important thing we have learned is that algorithms can easily be biased without *any* intention on the part of the designers to introduce bias, and indeed in ways that are wholly antithetical to the values of these designers. <a href="/wiki/User:NBeale" title="User:NBeale">NBeale</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NBeale" title="User talk:NBeale">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z","author":"NBeale","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NBeale-2019-03-27T22:53:00.000Z-Definition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Been on a Wikibreak but came back and saw this and wanted to say: that was a great edit to a highly visible portion of the text. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Owlsmcgee" title="User:Owlsmcgee">Owlsmcgee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Owlsmcgee" title="User talk:Owlsmcgee">talk</a>)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"],"text":"Re-adding content that I removed","linkableTitle":"Re-adding content that I removed"}--><h2 id="Re-adding_content_that_I_removed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z"></span>Re-adding content that I removed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed","timestamp":"2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"],"text":"Re-adding content that I removed","linkableTitle":"Re-adding content that I removed"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lauraham8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lauraham8 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"></span>Lauraham8</a>, I had removed a portion of content under the Google Search sub-heading which listed all the Google search results for which biased content comes up. I deleted that portion because I feel that the paragraph immediately after the list sums up and gets the point across to the reader that Google's algorithm is prone influence via systemic biases. I feel that the list will become a dumpyard for every vulgar or derogatory cliche term that can be googled and thus will degrade the overall quality of the article. </p><p>However, after my deletion, you re-added the same content without any indication of why you thought that my line of thinking was wrong. I'd like to ask you to explain why you re-added the content here so that I can understnd your veiws on the topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Sohom_data" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sohom data">Sohom Datta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sohom_data" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sohom data">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Algorithmic_bias#c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z","author":"Sohom data","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed","replies":[],"displayName":"Sohom Datta"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sohom_data-2019-11-11T15:43:00.000Z-Re-adding_content_that_I_removed"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐6b8d669998‐8qg5q Cached time: 20241128062350 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐id, vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.108 seconds CPU time usage: 0.852 seconds Real time usage: 1.014 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 5236/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 163507/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 13316/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 18/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 92831/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.360/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 4288461/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 724.711 1 -total 34.57% 250.507 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 32.63% 236.465 1 Talk:Algorithmic_bias/GA1 15.84% 114.820 65 Template:Tq 13.09% 94.892 1 Talk:Algorithmic_bias/GA2 10.57% 76.612 1 Template:WikiProject_Technology 10.53% 76.295 66 Template:Encodefirst 10.38% 75.216 1 Template:Article_history 9.92% 71.882 2 Template:Good_article_tools 9.60% 69.546 2 Template:Sidebar --> <!-- Saved in RevisionOutputCache with key enwiki:rcache:963824085:dateformat=default and timestamp 20241128062349 and revision id 963824085. --> </div><!--esi <esi:include src="/esitest-fa8a495983347898/content" /> --><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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