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4">Archive 4</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_5" title="User talk:JaGa/Archive 5">Archive 5</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;And this person too vandalizes the pages Anthonydelgado1&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;And this person too vandalizes the pages Anthonydelgado1&quot;}--><h2 id="And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1" data-mw-thread-id="h-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"></span>And this person too vandalizes the pages Anthonydelgado1<span data-mw-comment-end="h-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1"></span>he vandalized <a href="/wiki/Catherine_Siachoque" title="Catherine Siachoque">Catherine Siachoque</a> </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Siachoquero" title="User:Siachoquero">Siachoquero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siachoquero" title="User talk:Siachoquero">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z","author":"Siachoquero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z-And_this_person_too_vandalizes_the_pages_Anthonydelgado1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"></span>OK, got Anthonydelgado1 AND Anthonydelgado10 blocked indefinitely. There's still an account named Anthonydelgado5, but it hasn't committed any vandalism yet, so we'll have to wait. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-07T16:39:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-07T06:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The IP 74.184.195.244 came back with vandalisms&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The IP 74.184.195.244 came back with vandalisms&quot;}--><h2 id="The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"></span>The IP 74.184.195.244 came back with vandalisms<span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The IP 74.184.195.244 came back with vandalisms&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The IP 74.184.195.244 came back with vandalisms&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms"></span>I'm fed uppppppppppppppppppppp. </p><p>do something with this IP. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Siachoquero" title="User:Siachoquero">Siachoquero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siachoquero" title="User talk:Siachoquero">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Siachoquero" title="Special:Contributions/Siachoquero">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Siachoquero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z-The_IP_74.184.195.244_came_back_with_vandalisms"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"></span>I sent a request to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism">Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism</a> with the hopes that they'll block him because he's vandalizing again after recent release from another block. We'll see. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-06T17:18:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-08-06T17:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The older Ip is continuing vandalism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The older Ip is continuing vandalism&quot;}--><h2 id="The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"></span>The older Ip is continuing vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The older Ip is continuing vandalism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The older Ip is continuing vandalism&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism"></span>74.184.195.244 you know this IP it was vandalising and now has returned to vandalism. Sin Seno no hay Paraiso and some actrice page. I'm already fed up </p><p>cause this week or next week I go to holidays and won't be here so I hope this or other person won't disguss the pages I edit. </p><p>do with this something please. bye <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Siachoquero" title="User:Siachoquero">Siachoquero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siachoquero" title="User talk:Siachoquero">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Siachoquero" title="Special:Contributions/Siachoquero">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z","author":"Siachoquero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z-The_older_Ip_is_continuing_vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"></span>I warned him. I'm about to take some time off too, so if you find more, you should notify someone else - I may not be around. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-26T21:56:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-26T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hi_there_it's_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hi there it's me again&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hi there it's me again&quot;}--><h2 id="Hi_there_it's_me_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi_there_it&#039;s_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"><span id="Hi_there_it.27s_me_again"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi_there_it's_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"></span>Hi there it's me again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi_there_it's_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hi_there_it's_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hi_there_it's_me_again-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hi there it's me again&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hi there it's me again&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again"></span>71.96.238.247 this IP has vandalised Sin Senos no hay Paraiso and Idolos de Juventud and Victoria telenovela de Telemundo and other pages </p><p>he changed series numbers I corrected fo Sein Senos nothing more could you warn him. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Siachoquero" title="User:Siachoquero">Siachoquero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siachoquero" title="User talk:Siachoquero">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Siachoquero" title="Special:Contributions/Siachoquero">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z","author":"Siachoquero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z-Hi_there_it's_me_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"></span>OK, I gave him a couple of warnings. I guess this is something we'll have to deal with for a while. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-20T21:35:00.000Z-Siachoquero-2008-07-20T10:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Cory Hall&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Cory Hall&quot;}--><h2 id="Cory_Hall" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span>Cory Hall<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Cory_Hall-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Cory Hall&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Cory Hall&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall"></span>Hey, I'm not sure what you mean by indicating significance. I mean, granted it's less than a stub right now but obviously it's one of the buildings on campus so it's significant. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Yiferic" title="User:Yiferic">Yiferic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yiferic" title="User talk:Yiferic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z","author":"Yiferic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z-Cory_Hall"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span>Well, if the article stays in the state it is now we'll probably remove it for lack of content. Just put a {{hangon}} template under my SD template and you'll have a few days to put in content. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-15T07:56:00.000Z-Yiferic-2008-07-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion&quot;,&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Speedy Deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Speedy Deletion&quot;}--><h2 id="Speedy_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Speedy Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion","c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Speedy_Deletion-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion&quot;,&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Speedy Deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Speedy Deletion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"></span>Hi Was going to do a speedy delete on <a href="/wiki/Harry_Burton" class="mw-disambig" title="Harry Burton">Harry Burton</a> as well when I did a quick research and found he is of interest and now have put some more information in there. I will expand over next 3-4 hours to make it at least reasonable stub. By the way it is not my original article.... --<a href="/wiki/User:Kdaly100" title="User:Kdaly100">BustOut</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kdaly100" title="User talk:Kdaly100">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z","author":"Kdaly100","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"BustOut"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"></span>I'm a little confused - I'm not in the history of that article. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z-Kdaly100-2008-07-08T08:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Oh, I see, I SD'ed the <a href="/wiki/Harry_Burton_(journalist)" title="Harry Burton (journalist)">Harry Burton (journalist)</a> article. Yeah, OK, I took the template out. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T08:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z"></span>Hello, the original attempt to make a <a href="/wiki/Harry_Burton_(journalist)" title="Harry Burton (journalist)">Harry Burton (journalist)</a> stub was mine - apologies for leaving a blank up while polishing the draft. Thank you for your additions; I have expanded and added a reference. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Chadbouchard&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Chadbouchard (page does not exist)">Chadbouchard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chadbouchard" title="User talk:Chadbouchard">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chadbouchard" title="Special:Contributions/Chadbouchard">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z","author":"Chadbouchard","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T09:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z"></span>No problems! It's great to see how patient everyone has been despite the misunderstandings. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z-Chadbouchard-2008-07-08T10:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span>I have polished it a bit more and updated the references tags - the joys of WP - an <a href="/wiki/Ireland" title="Ireland">Irish</a> man writing an article about an Australian journalist. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kdaly100" title="User:Kdaly100">BustOut</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kdaly100" title="User talk:Kdaly100">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z","author":"Kdaly100","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"BustOut"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kdaly100-2008-07-10T09:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"></span>Addressed to JaGA: We do not want to advertise, we simply want to exist, because we are relevent in our field. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BenAstrum&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BenAstrum (page does not exist)">BenAstrum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BenAstrum" title="User talk:BenAstrum">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BenAstrum" title="Special:Contributions/BenAstrum">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z","author":"BenAstrum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion","replies":["c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z","c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z-Speedy_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Dyal_Singh_Majithia" title="Dyal Singh Majithia"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Dyal Singh Majithia</a> SD is contested. Have added some more material to the article, with WP:RS <a href="/wiki/User:Reformedbrahmovandal" title="User:Reformedbrahmovandal">Reformedbrahmovandal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reformedbrahmovandal" title="User talk:Reformedbrahmovandal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z","author":"Reformedbrahmovandal","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reformedbrahmovandal-2008-07-19T03:34:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"></span>I was going to remove the tag, but an admin beat me to it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-19T03:38:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;bkchem&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;bkchem&quot;}--><h2 id="bkchem" data-mw-thread-id="h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z"></span>bkchem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem","timestamp":"2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-bkchem-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;bkchem&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;bkchem&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem"></span>The script has been changed to remove the cropping code; I had just forgotten to remove that note from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Structure_drawing_workgroup/Mysid%27s_script" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry/Structure drawing workgroup/Mysid's script">the documentation</a>. <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AFAIK" class="extiw" title="wikt:AFAIK">AFAIK</a> the script is still needed to make the diagrams render properly on wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:Slashme" title="User:Slashme">Slashme</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slashme" title="User talk:Slashme">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z","author":"Slashme","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slashme-2008-07-09T05:46:00.000Z-bkchem"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Adam Carolla and Pie&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Adam Carolla and Pie&quot;}--><h2 id="Adam_Carolla_and_Pie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Adam Carolla and Pie<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Adam Carolla and Pie&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Adam Carolla and Pie&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie"></span>Is there any particular reason you removed my notations about Adam Carolla preferring pie to cake for his birthday? I know it's trivia, but I think it's kind of interesting--an unusual fact about him. Was it that you needed a citation for it, or what? It seemed abrupt to simply remove it. Please explain. <a href="/wiki/User:Scooge" title="User:Scooge">Scooge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scooge" title="User talk:Scooge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Scooge","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z-Adam_Carolla_and_Pie"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Sorry if it was a mistake. I see a lot of edits like that that are vandalism, and yours was unsourced, so I reverted it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:51:00.000Z-Scooge-2008-07-11T21:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chemistry_barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chemistry_barnstar"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chemistry_barnstar"></span>Chemistry barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chemistry_barnstar"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chemistry_barnstar","replies":[],"uneditableSection":true}}--></div> <table style="border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #f8f9fa; width: 80%; margin: 0 auto 1em; padding: 0.2em;"> <tbody><tr> <th rowspan="2" width="100px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Chemistrybondstar.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Chemistrybondstar.svg/80px-Chemistrybondstar.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="76" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Chemistrybondstar.svg/120px-Chemistrybondstar.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Chemistrybondstar.svg/160px-Chemistrybondstar.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="622" data-file-height="594"/></a></span> </th> <th style="background: #F8EABA; text-align: center;" colspan="2">The Chemistry Bond Star </th></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">Thanks for all your great contributions to chemistry articles! They are greatly appreciated.-- <a href="/wiki/User:Edgar181" title="User:Edgar181">Ed</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edgar181" title="User talk:Edgar181">Edgar181</a>) </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chemistry images&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chemistry images&quot;}--><h2 id="Chemistry_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"></span>Chemistry images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chemistry_images-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chemistry images&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chemistry images&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images"></span>...I have one picky little comment though... I'm curious why you have replaced some .png images with .svg images when the .png image is already fairly high quality, such as <a href="/wiki/File:2,3-DHB.png" title="File:2,3-DHB.png">Image:2,3-DHB.png</a>. I realize that .svg is generally preferred over .png, but there are many chemical articles that have no structure drawings at all, such as those at <a href="/wiki/Category:Chemistry_pages_needing_pictures" title="Category:Chemistry pages needing pictures">Category:Chemistry pages needing pictures</a>, or just really poor quality images. Wouldn't it be better to focus your effort on creating your nice .svg structure drawings for those instead? Not really a big deal, but just a suggestion. In any case, thanks again for your contributions to chemistry articles. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Edgar181" title="User:Edgar181">Ed</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edgar181" title="User talk:Edgar181">Edgar181</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z","author":"Edgar181","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ed"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z-Chemistry_images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the barnstar, Ed! I definitely plan on moving on to bigger things, but I figured I would do some PNG/GIF-to-SVG work while I get accustomed to the software and preferred techniques for building structures. Currently, I'm working through <a href="/wiki/Category:Benzoic_acids" title="Category:Benzoic acids">Category:Benzoic acids</a>. I'm assuming it's OK since (I hope) the images I'm creating are of similar quality (please let me know anything that can be improved!) and my assumption is that we want to have all SVG diagrams some day. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-12T13:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z"></span>The images you are creating are great - definitely high quality! I agree SVG is preferred, but when it comes to high-resolution PNGs, I personally think the difference is minimal. I think there would be more to be gained by creating missing images than upgrading ones that are already good. But, again, no big deal either way. Cheers, -- <a href="/wiki/User:Edgar181" title="User:Edgar181">Ed</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edgar181" title="User talk:Edgar181">Edgar181</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z","author":"Edgar181","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ed"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-07-12T22:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z"></span>I agree. I'll be more picky on the PNGs I choose to convert in the future. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-13T05:19:00.000Z-Edgar181-2008-07-13T02:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;grammar at nonactin&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;grammar at nonactin&quot;}--><h2 id="grammar_at_nonactin" data-mw-thread-id="h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"></span>grammar at nonactin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-grammar_at_nonactin-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;grammar at nonactin&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;grammar at nonactin&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin"></span>Thanks for catching my mistake! I did a lit search and found one total syn at first. Then I found another, so I changed it to syntheses but forgot about the verb. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z","author":"Rifleman 82","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z-grammar_at_nonactin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"></span>No problem. Thanks for the note, I appreciate it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-14T02:57:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-07-14T02:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Marlon Brando Rollback&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Marlon Brando Rollback&quot;}--><h2 id="Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z"></span>Re: Marlon Brando Rollback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback","timestamp":"2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Marlon Brando Rollback&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Marlon Brando Rollback&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback"></span>Looks like I rolled it [69.225.253.228's vandalism] back first, then you rolled me back and sent me a warning accidentally --<a href="/wiki/User:Atomican" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Atomican">Atomican</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atomican" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Atomican">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z","author":"Atomican","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atomican-2008-07-14T06:13:00.000Z-Re:_Marlon_Brando_Rollback"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum&quot;,&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BenAstrum&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BenAstrum&quot;}--><h2 id="BenAstrum" data-mw-thread-id="h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"></span>BenAstrum<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum","c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum&quot;,&quot;c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BenAstrum&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BenAstrum&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum"></span>Sam Torkaman </p><p>i don't understand why BenAstrum can not have its own page, many companies do have pages here on wikipedia, and our goal isn't to advertise, our company has a very unique name and we want to make sure there is a description of the company, its history avalible. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BenAstrum&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BenAstrum (page does not exist)">BenAstrum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BenAstrum" title="User talk:BenAstrum">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BenAstrum" title="Special:Contributions/BenAstrum">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z","author":"BenAstrum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z-BenAstrum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"></span>I didn't see any useful content, so I tagged it. An admin will make the notability decision, not me, so if you're right, my template will be removed. It would help build notability if you include references, especially any news articles mentioning the company. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T18:26:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum"></span>Hi Ja JA, i did that but when i went back to the page it was in its old format, as i mentioned we simply want and think we deserve to exist on wikipedia as a relevent company in our field, our goal isn't to advertise. Should i make changes now, or do i have to wait to make the changes. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BenAstrum&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BenAstrum (page does not exist)">BenAstrum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BenAstrum" title="User talk:BenAstrum">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BenAstrum" title="Special:Contributions/BenAstrum">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z","author":"BenAstrum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z-BenAstrum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z"></span>I see you put a hangon tag on there, that's the right thing to do - leave the template, keep making changes, and that will make the best case when the admin makes his/her decision. I hope you don't think I'm being antagonistic by placing the delete tag, it's just that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business directory, so the article has to show that the company is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notable</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-07-18T19:01:00.000Z-BenAstrum-2008-07-18T18:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: serial template vandal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: serial template vandal&quot;}--><h2 id="Re:_serial_template_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Re: serial template vandal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal","timestamp":"2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_serial_template_vandal-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: serial template vandal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: serial template vandal&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal"></span>Woah that's more than I thought there was. I've made a report at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCU/IP#Random_username_vandal" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCU/IP">WP:RFCU/IP#Random username vandal</a>. Thanks for notifying me, <a href="/wiki/User:Spellcast" title="User:Spellcast">Spellcast</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spellcast" title="User talk:Spellcast">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z","author":"Spellcast","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spellcast-2008-08-05T17:10:00.000Z-Re:_serial_template_vandal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Preferred dental lab&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Preferred dental lab&quot;}--><h2 id="Preferred_dental_lab" data-mw-thread-id="h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Preferred dental lab<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Preferred_dental_lab-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Preferred dental lab&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Preferred dental lab&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab"></span>I note that you tagged this article for speedy deletion. There is no Wikipedia article for <a href="/wiki/Dental_lab" class="mw-redirect" title="Dental lab">Dental lab</a>. I propose to stub this down by removing the promotional parts and retain the part which says what a dental lab does from the present article, namely "A dental lab makes and repairs dentures, crown &amp; bridge, and dental implants," with a citation to <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.ada.org/public/careers/team/lab.asp">[1]</a>. A dental lab is not the same as a dentist, since they may never see a patient. Does that make more or less sense than deleting the present article and then creating the proposed stub? <a href="/wiki/User:Edison" title="User:Edison">Edison</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edison" title="User talk:Edison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z","author":"Edison","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z-Preferred_dental_lab"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Absolutely. That would be very useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T18:12:00.000Z-Edison-2008-08-05T18:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;,&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;,&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Peter Gabriel discography (again)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Peter Gabriel discography (again)&quot;}--><h2 id="Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"><span id="Peter_Gabriel_discography_.28again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Peter_Gabriel_discography" title="Peter Gabriel discography">Peter Gabriel discography</a> (again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)","c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)","c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__17__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;,&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;,&quot;c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Peter Gabriel discography (again)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Peter Gabriel discography (again)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span>Hi, JaGa. We corresponded a few months back regarding this article, and the same person is back at it again, trying to restore the same inflated chart stats on the article. The logged in user is Jman505, and the IP address is 72.224.49.240. If there was ever any doubt that they are one and the same, the fact that neither has done anything for about a month, then they both edit the same page within three minutes should signify something. I reverted both the edits, but I don't know what the next step should be (didn't a few people already try being nice?). Besides, I don't really want to get caught in the crosshairs on this. Could you notify an admin or something? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span>Sure, I'll check it out, see what can be done. Thanks for letting me know about it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome, and thank you for intervening (even though <i>you</i> didn't do anything that merits having to get in the middle of it either!) Having read your talk page, though, you seem to know how to report these kinds of incidents. I've spent a fair amount of time on music articles of late, and I'm trying my best to follow the "rules"; but it's discouraging to see somebody change things, seemingly on a whim or because they are a fan of someone. I informed Abrazame as well, since he did a great job on the aforementioned page. Anyway, thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T02:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z"></span>I've put a couple of warnings on his page. I've decided to give him this one last chance - if he makes one more disruptive edit, I'll do my best to get him blocked. Could you let me know if you see him doing this again? --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa#top" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T03:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z"></span>Sure thing, I've got it added to my watchlist, and I'll check his account(s) every now and then. I appreciate your assistance, JaGa. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-10T20:29:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-10T17:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it didn't take them long to return to their old tricks. 72.224.49.240 undid my undoing of their altering the Peter Gabriel discography page - I almost reverted it back but thought I might be breaking some 3-revert rule, so I left it alone (sigh). Then they made seven edits to a featured article page, <a href="/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre" title="Peterloo Massacre">Peterloo Massacre</a>, all of which were reverted (including blanking the page), and multiple warnings were placed on the IP talk page. Then a few minutes later, Jman505 logged in as himself (I assume - is there a way to prove where he logged in from?) and added stupid things to the <a href="/wiki/Michael_Jackson_discography" class="mw-redirect" title="Michael Jackson discography">Michael Jackson discography</a> page like replacing links with Billboard Hot 1000000000999 and "suck my..." Well, you get the point. These were all reverted and warnings placed on his talk page as well, so there may be a note of this on that admin board you posted on before. Would you mind asking someone to revert the false chart stats on Peter Gabriel's page and reporting this? And if I get a vote on keep vs. block, BLOCK!! Using wikipedia like a big graffiti wall is irritating, especially if it's taking away from something you worked on and seriously tried to improve. I owe you one - thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z"></span>Wow, he had a real meltdown there. It looks like the admins shut him down before I saw your message, but I'm going to see if I can get an investigation started into the the Jman505 = 72.224.49.240 theory. Thanks for letting me know! I like getting involved with this admin-y stuff. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T05:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z"></span>It seemed like watching a tornado tearing through a field! The comments on the IP talk page are disturbing and indicative of a lot of unresolved hatred. I was just about to update you that the IP is blocked when I saw your reply. I'm glad I contacted you if you enjoy getting involved in this stuff, since I neither know how nor really want to be in the middle of a big deal. Is there any evidence to link Jman505 to the IP? Thanks again, JaGa. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z"></span>OK, I put a message on the admin noticeboard, I'll post here what the result is. Isn't is all so weird - I mean, for a Peter Gabriel fan to act like this? I really enjoy his music, and would think his fans would be more mellow that this fellow. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T06:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span>I know what you mean, maybe they just picked the page at random or something. By the way, what could serve as proof that they are the same: Jman logged in and edited <a href="/wiki/Feist_(singer)" title="Feist (singer)">Feist (singer)</a>, and in the edit summary typed offensive things about ESanchez013, who had reverted edits to the Peter Gabriel page by the IP (not Jman). For all I know, we may be on his radar too, so I left a message on ESanchez's talk page. Like I said before: UGH! <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z"></span>Darn, I wish I'd noticed that before my report, that really proves it. Well, the admins put a comment on my report saying "IP block adjusted so it's not anon-only" which I suppose means all activity from that IP will be blocked, which is but a partial victory, because the IP was blocked for only one week. So I bet we'll have another chapter in this saga before it's all said and done. When he comes back, I'll use your ESanchez example to try to shut the account down for good, and get at least a one month block on the IP. Thanks much for your vigilance; he probably would've got away with at least some of his edits if it weren't for you. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z"></span>I'm mixed up in this too, but hats off to you for knowing what to do and having the guts to do it. I guess there's a record of all this brouhaha for anybody who wants to investigate, but I'm grateful for your intervention. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-17T07:30:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T07:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span>Hello, JaGa. Guess what? (LOL) Jman505 is back, which shouldn't be a surprise. This time he did a bunch of nonsense edits to <a href="/wiki/Eagles_discography" title="Eagles discography">Eagles discography</a>, which were reverted before I saw them. However, the mistaken chart positions for Sting's song "<a href="/wiki/Englishman_in_New_York" title="Englishman in New York">Englishman in New York</a>" reappeared on both the song's page as well as the <a href="/wiki/Sting_discography" title="Sting discography">Sting discography</a> page, and they were both still there. Until I edited over them both and provided a new-fangled concept called 'references'. What's a bit unsettling is that in one of those edits he called me out and said for me to e-mail him before changing anything, and listed his e-mail address in the edit summary. I may have found info about him through google, but I'm not sure I even want to. That Sting song is one of my favorites, and it's how I noticed him before he ever leapt over to Peter Gabriel and caused all the havoc there. I think the block on the IP may have expired, and now I'm a bit concerned. There are even more connections between the two, like the phrase "fix this you &lt;blanking> bitches", and the E. Sanchez issue from above. I wound up finding your last incident report on the board and posted my two cents, but I think it got archived without any further action. Wanted you to know (it's like a soap opera!) and see if you had any ideas on how to proceed. Sorry to type such a long message, and thanks for any advice or assistance in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z-Peter_Gabriel_discography_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Hi Z, I reported him to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AIV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AIV">WP:AIV</a> with a pretty incomplete description, but they haven't acted on it and now I'm going to bed. If they punt (and I suspect they might) I'll go back to ANI with it. Thanks again for keeping me up to date! --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T05:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z"></span>It looks as though an admin (Icairns) temporarily blocked Jman505, so maybe this will end the disruptions. Or maybe he'll come back even angrier. No, no, the glass is half full, right? I'm grateful for your help with this ongoing issue, JaGa. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T07:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z"></span>Only a 31 hour block - that's a little disappointing, since he usually waits longer than that before reappearing. The good part is, if/when he comes back, I can report him again under the category "vandalism after recent release of block", which is usually a sure thing. We'll probably always have to deal with this guy, because even if we get the Jman account blocked indefinitely, he'll still be able to make IP edits. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-25T15:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z"></span>Right, and he seems bound and determined to cause chaos instead of trying to help in this grand communal effort. I'll keep an eye on him, and thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephyrnthesky" title="User:Zephyrnthesky">Zephyrnthesky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephyrnthesky" title="User talk:Zephyrnthesky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z","author":"Zephyrnthesky","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephyrnthesky-2008-08-26T05:32:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T17:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Structure Searching on Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Structure Searching on Wikipedia&quot;}--><h2 id="Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span>Structure Searching on Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","timestamp":"2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Structure Searching on Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Structure Searching on Wikipedia&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span>Jaga, I welcome your comments on the presentation I sent you about how Wikipedia can be made structure searchable.--<a href="/wiki/User:ChemSpiderMan" title="User:ChemSpiderMan">ChemSpiderMan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChemSpiderMan" title="User talk:ChemSpiderMan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z","author":"ChemSpiderMan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-14T02:16:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span>I went through the PPT presentation and checked out <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.chemspider.com/StructureSearch.aspx">Structure Search</a> on Chemspider. This is a very cool idea. Here are my thoughts/questions: </p> <ol><li>I think "Search Wikipedia" is a must. I did a substructure search on ChemSpider and got SO MANY results it was hard to find what I was looking for. A Wikipedia search would give you a narrower set of results - usually more "notable" chemicals - so could have its uses.</li> <li>The chembox new template has only one field for InChI. I suppose we'd have to add another for the key - seems like we want both string and key. Or is there an easier way?</li> <li>Would there be a chance to implement a Structure Search within Wikipedia, or would the user have to go offsite?</li> <li>If you also generated the structure, for one thing, SVG would make the most sense by far. Not only are we trying to move chemical structures away from raster formats to vector, but also it would be much easier to make a small edit to a generated SVG than a PNG or other raster image.</li> <li>If we did go for the structure generation, the tool would need to make higher-quality images. Set bond lenths, fixed bond angles, and a different style for double bonds (excepting the C=O bonds) would be a must. It would also be nice if the lines joined, but that could be fixed in an SVG editor. (I do my drawing in BKChem, export it via Cairo, and clean it up in Inkscape. I'd say your editor would want to approach BKChem quality.)</li> <li>Should this discussion be moved to Wikiproject Chemicals, or is there another discussion going on that I know nothing about?</li></ol> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-15T07:44:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span>Thanks for the feedback...we can continue the discussion offline on email if you'd like. You have my email address I think...it's just easier in email since I don't have to keep checking Wikipedia. ANyway comments to your questions.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>1) Regarding too many results...please send me some examples then I can explain why you might get a lot of results. 2) The WP:Chem team are working on both InChIString and InCHIKey for the Chembox 3) I can't comment on doing structure searching on WP itself. I believe that's been discussed for a long time but needs to be implemented in Media-Wiki. If there's a decision to do so we can help. 4) Ok...vote for SVG. Will wait for further feedback 5) Don't worry about our structure images for right now. We are working on that issue and commit to high quality images. 6) There is a discussion going on about it on WP Chemicals I believe.--<a href="/wiki/User:ChemSpiderMan" title="User:ChemSpiderMan">ChemSpiderMan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChemSpiderMan" title="User talk:ChemSpiderMan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z","author":"ChemSpiderMan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChemSpiderMan-2008-08-15T12:42:00.000Z-Structure_Searching_on_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More vandalism by IP 203.20.35.101&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;More vandalism by IP 203.20.35.101&quot;}--><h2 id="More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"></span>More vandalism by IP 203.20.35.101<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More vandalism by IP 203.20.35.101&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;More vandalism by IP 203.20.35.101&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101"></span>I am contacting you because you gave IP 203.20.35.101 a final warning for vandalism, and since that time, IP 203.20.35.101 has vandalized the <i><a href="/wiki/Everybody_Loves_Raymond" title="Everybody Loves Raymond">Everybody Loves Raymond</a></i> article (at 02:55 on 17 August 2008). Could you go ahead with blocking this IP address? Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:JTSchreiber" title="User:JTSchreiber">JTSchreiber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JTSchreiber" title="User talk:JTSchreiber">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z","author":"JTSchreiber","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z-More_vandalism_by_IP_203.20.35.101"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"></span>Got him blocked for one month. Thanks for the heads up! --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z-JTSchreiber-2008-08-17T04:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome for the heads up and thanks for the block! --<a href="/wiki/User:JTSchreiber" title="User:JTSchreiber">JTSchreiber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JTSchreiber" title="User talk:JTSchreiber">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z","author":"JTSchreiber","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JTSchreiber-2008-08-18T04:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-17T05:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Richard A. Cohen and related issues&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Richard A. Cohen and related issues&quot;}--><h2 id="Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span>Richard A. Cohen and related issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Richard A. Cohen and related issues&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Richard A. Cohen and related issues&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues"></span>JaGa, I noticed that on 18 July you made this edit <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_A._Cohen&amp;diff=226493800&amp;oldid=226493657">[2]</a> to the Richard A. Cohen article. If that was the right thing to do, and it very likely was, then you might consider making the same kind of edit to the articles on Charles Socarides, Irving Bieber, Edmund Bergler, Joseph Nicolosi, and Elizabeth Moberly. I added the 'Mainstream medical view of conversion therapy' (or the equivalent) sections to several of those articles myself, but that was despite my doubts about whether that was a good idea (I explained them on the Socarides talk page). <a href="/wiki/User:Skoojal" title="User:Skoojal">Skoojal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skoojal" title="User talk:Skoojal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","author":"Skoojal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z-Richard_A._Cohen_and_related_issues"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span>Well, I think removing them IS the right thing to do, encyclopedia-ly speaking, but I'm not sure I want to wade farther into this. Why haven't you taken them out yourself? If you think it was wrong for me to remove the section from the Cohen article, I wouldn't edit war with you over reverting my change. I care more about not offending a polite and AGF editor like yourself than fixing an article for the likes of Cohen. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-18T06:34:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span>I didn't take them out myself because of a disagreement with another editor over the Socarides article. I removed the 'mainstream view of conversion therapy' section from that article, but <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheRedPenOfDoom&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheRedPenOfDoom (page does not exist)">User:TheRedPenOfDoom</a> put it back in with a few modifications. I didn't want to edit war over the issue, and at that point, I decided that if the Socarides article was going to have that section, then articles about similar figures should have them as well. I added them only in the interests of consistency, and would actually have been more happy to remove them from all of those articles. I may well remove them, but it would be best if there were some discussion among editors interested in these topics before that happens. <a href="/wiki/User:Skoojal" title="User:Skoojal">Skoojal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skoojal" title="User talk:Skoojal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Skoojal","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skoojal-2008-08-18T21:57:00.000Z-Skoojal-2008-08-18T03:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ahmadoba&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ahmadoba&quot;}--><h2 id="Ahmadoba" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z"></span>Ahmadoba<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba","timestamp":"2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ahmadoba-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ahmadoba&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ahmadoba&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba"></span>Fixed, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:NawlinWiki" title="User:NawlinWiki">NawlinWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NawlinWiki" title="User talk:NawlinWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z","author":"NawlinWiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NawlinWiki-2008-08-22T18:26:00.000Z-Ahmadoba"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;hello&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;hello&quot;}--><h2 id="hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z"></span>hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello","timestamp":"2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-hello-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;hello&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;hello&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello"></span>hello moto <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Superstar020&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Superstar020 (page does not exist)">Superstar020</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superstar020" title="User talk:Superstar020">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Superstar020" title="Special:Contributions/Superstar020">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z","author":"Superstar020","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superstar020-2008-08-23T03:15:00.000Z-hello"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT&quot;,&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;G2ZT&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;G2ZT&quot;}--><h2 id="G2ZT" data-mw-thread-id="h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span>G2ZT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT","c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-G2ZT-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT&quot;,&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;G2ZT&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;G2ZT&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT"></span>If I can help in any way? --<a href="/wiki/User:Stone" title="User:Stone">Stone</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stone" title="User talk:Stone">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Stone","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z-G2ZT"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the offer. Would it be OK if I ran the structure by you before I put it in the article? I think I know how to draw it based on your description and some research I've done. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z-Stone-2008-08-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z"></span>Looks good! The point is always where to put the charge in the organic molecule. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stone" title="User:Stone">Stone</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stone" title="User talk:Stone">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z","author":"Stone","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stone-2008-08-26T12:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-25T21:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT"></span>Heya... I was wondering if we could have a "2" in front of azolium cation, and display it once only. Also, since you've drawn it, perhaps you can calculate the formula and MW, and enter it in the chembox? :) Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Rifleman 82","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z-G2ZT"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z"></span>Sure - but where should the 2 be, and how large should it be? I'm pretty inexperienced with drawing salts. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z"></span>If BKChem has brackets, perhaps you can use the bracket around one cation and subscript 2? In ChemSketch, it is the polymer tool... --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z","author":"Rifleman 82","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-26T17:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span>I checked, it does. My original files are on an inaccessible computer right now, but when I get to it, I'll make the change. I guess I'll just put a bracketed cation centered on top. I'll drop you a line when I update it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T08:06:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-08-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks","timestamp":"2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks"></span>Thanks. :) But this one was quite easy case. It took me just 3 to 4 hours from the beginning of case examination to the report submission. Google does wonders these days :). <a href="/wiki/User:M0RD00R" class="mw-redirect" title="User:M0RD00R">M0RD00R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M0RD00R" title="User talk:M0RD00R">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z","author":"M0RD00R","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M0RD00R-2008-08-26T16:28:00.000Z-Thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page&quot;,&quot;c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Edits to the Ror page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Edits to the Ror page&quot;}--><h2 id="Edits_to_the_Ror_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"></span>Edits to the <a href="/wiki/Ror" title="Ror">Ror</a> page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page","c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Edits_to_the_Ror_page-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page&quot;,&quot;c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Edits to the Ror page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Edits to the Ror page&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"></span>Hi JaGa, </p><p>I saw your edits to the page of the <a href="/wiki/Ror" title="Ror">Ror</a> community and I just wanted to discuss one of the edits with you. I hope you are fine with a small friendly discussion. You removed some names from the recent personalities section saying "remove those who do not have their own wiki page". I was wondering if that is absolutely a rule. The thing is that I am from this community and usually look after this page and by removing all those names you may put me in trouble. Reason being that even if some of those names do not qualify the notability criterion to have a dedicated page, they are still revered within the community and some members may feel hurt. I leave it to your discretion. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Rorkadian" title="User:Rorkadian">Rorkadian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rorkadian" title="User talk:Rorkadian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z","author":"Rorkadian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"></span>Hi Rorkadian. Thanks for the friendly note. It pained me to remove those names, because I thought it would hurt some feelings, but I knew the list wasn't in line with Wikipedia guidelines. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (people)">Wikipedia:Notability (people)</a> covers it pretty well, and I do believe those rules should be applied here. On a side note, many editors would simply revert my change, or answer angrily, or both, and I'm very impressed to see the professionalism you've shown in dealing with my edits. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T04:46:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T04:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"></span>Dear JaGa, I just read through the notability guidelines and reached the conclusion that some of the names removed do meet notability criteria under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLITICIAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLITICIAN">WP:POLITICIAN</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Athlete" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Athlete">WP:Athlete</a>. Do you think we should consider re-instating some of them as they have been members of legislature and some of them have competed at a high level in sports. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Rorkadian" title="User:Rorkadian">Rorkadian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rorkadian" title="User talk:Rorkadian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Rorkadian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z","c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z-Edits_to_the_Ror_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"></span>Absolutely. It sounds like you know what qualifies, and I will trust your decisions. My apologies for missing notable non-linked individuals. I usually only go with linked notables because without a link, I can't verify that someone really is a high-level athlete or member of parliament or whatever they claim to be. But since you are familiar with the material, I can rest assured you won't let bogus edits slip through. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T05:19:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"></span>Thanks JaGa. I will double check and then re-instate some of the names depending on the notability guidelines. <a href="/wiki/User:Rorkadian" title="User:Rorkadian">Rorkadian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rorkadian" title="User talk:Rorkadian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z","author":"Rorkadian","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:23:00.000Z-Rorkadian-2008-08-27T05:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Feature request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Feature request&quot;}--><h2 id="Re:_Feature_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span>Re: Feature request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Feature_request-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Feature request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Feature request&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request"></span>It would be nice if "Show log" were one of our configurable options. I like having as much screen as possible to look at the diff so I uncheck "Show log" at the beginning of every session. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa">JaGa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request","replies":["c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z-Re:_Feature_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span>Godd idea. If this isnt already done I will do it, Added to google code bugs. <span style="color:blue"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Addshore" title="User:Addshore">·Add§hore·</a></b> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Addshore" title="User talk:Addshore">T<small>alk</small></a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Addshore" title="Special:Contributions/Addshore">C<small>ont</small></a></sub></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z","author":"Addshore","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u00b7Add\u00a7hore\u00b7"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Addshore-2008-08-06T09:06:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span>This is fixed in the next version -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gurch" title="User:Gurch">Gurch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gurch" title="User talk:Gurch">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Gurch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-08-05T04:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z"></span>Sweet, thanks for the update! --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-27T19:31:00.000Z-Gurch-2008-08-27T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hi&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hi&quot;}--><h2 id="Hi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>Hi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hi-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hi&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hi&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi"></span>please do not delete a page called "Nuats Ultimate" because it's important! <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Antsbugg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Antsbugg (page does not exist)">Antsbugg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Antsbugg" title="User talk:Antsbugg">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Antsbugg" title="Special:Contributions/Antsbugg">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Antsbugg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z-Hi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>The decision to delete or not will be up to an admin, not me. You should add inline citations to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a>; the subject may very well be notable, but it has to be proven in the article with proper references. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:55:00.000Z-Antsbugg-2008-08-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;hi&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;hi 2&quot;}--><h2 id="hi_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"></span>hi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-hi_2-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;hi&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;hi 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2"></span>can you please <a href="/wiki/Richa_Ghimire" title="Richa Ghimire">Richa Ghimire</a> save from the deleton thank you.(<a href="/wiki/User:Amir_Gurung" title="User:Amir Gurung">Amir Gurung</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amir_Gurung" title="User talk:Amir Gurung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z","author":"Amir Gurung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z-hi_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"></span>The decision whether to delete or not isn't mine, I just tagged the article so an admin can review it. I tagged it because there were no references of her <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">WP:Notability</a>. Putting in the {{hangon}} tag was a good start; now you should make inline references to news articles/non-fan websites that talk about her to prove she is in the public eye and not just an aspiring, unestablished model. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-08-28T17:53:00.000Z-Amir_Gurung-2008-08-28T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;DYK&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;DYK&quot;}--><h2 id="DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK","timestamp":"2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-DYK-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;DYK&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;DYK&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/29_August" class="mw-redirect" title="29 August">29 August</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/American_Musical_Theatre_of_San_Jose" title="American Musical Theatre of San Jose">American Musical Theatre of San Jose</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Mangojuice" title="User:Mangojuice">Mango</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mangojuice" title="Special:Contributions/Mangojuice"><span style="color:orange"><b>juice</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mangojuice" title="User talk:Mangojuice">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Mangojuice","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK","replies":[],"displayName":"Mango"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mangojuice-2008-08-29T18:19:00.000Z-DYK"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;re revert war at Emil Gilels&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;re revert war at Emil Gilels&quot;}--><h2 id="re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels" data-mw-thread-id="h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z"></span>re revert war at <a href="/wiki/Emil_Gilels" title="Emil Gilels">Emil Gilels</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels","timestamp":"2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;re revert war at Emil Gilels&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;re revert war at Emil Gilels&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels"></span>I would draw your attention to the thread at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Rollback_abuse.3F" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Rollback abuse.3F</a>. It is inappropriate to use Huggle, or any other automated script, in content disputes. Under the circumstances, it may be appropriate for you to re-acquaint yourself with the proper use of semi-automated tools before using them again. <a href="/wiki/User:LessHeard_vanU" title="User:LessHeard vanU">LessHeard vanU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LessHeard_vanU" title="User talk:LessHeard vanU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z","author":"LessHeard vanU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LessHeard_vanU-2008-08-30T01:03:00.000Z-re_revert_war_at_Emil_Gilels"></span> </p> <dl><dd>For the record, I stand by my edit. I saw a user remove cited content, and I put it back. I didn't warn the user, since it wasn't definitely malicious, so I don't think I abused Huggle in any way. I disagree with the idea that this was <i>definitely</i> not vandalism; I saw this as a POV struggle (trying to spotlight vs. obscure Jewish heritage) and sided on keeping the adjective, since it was already established in the article and cited. What good is there in removing information? (Side note, of my many Beethoven sonata recordings, Gilels is my favorite. I only wish to honor him, and not offend his family; but I also want to maintain a good encyclopedia, and don't think I did anything wrong, despite my warning.)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Kotkapura&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Kotkapura&quot;}--><h2 id="Kotkapura" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Kotkapura" title="Kotkapura">Kotkapura</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura","timestamp":"2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Kotkapura-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Kotkapura&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Kotkapura&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura"></span>Could you help in reverting vandalism by 171.23.129.9 ? this person keeps adding POV content and advertising for his "astrologer". In addition to that this person has spurned attempts at reconciliation. Could you use huggle to help the page out? thanks <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Profitoftruth85" title="User:Profitoftruth85">Profitoftruth85</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Profitoftruth85" title="User talk:Profitoftruth85">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Profitoftruth85" title="Special:Contributions/Profitoftruth85">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z","author":"Profitoftruth85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Profitoftruth85-2008-08-31T19:26:00.000Z-Kotkapura"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Please check&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Please check&quot;}--><h2 id="Please_check" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z"></span>Please check<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check","timestamp":"2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Please_check-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Please check&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Please check&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check"></span>I have updated the Wikipedia article about <a href="/wiki/Melih_Abdulhayoglu" class="mw-redirect" title="Melih Abdulhayoglu">Melih Abdulhayoglu</a>, the CEO of Comodo. </p><p>I would value your opinions and edits of the article. I have tried extra-hard to keep the tone neutral. I would really appreciate your suggestions. </p><p>I feel that Melih is notable, not only for his patents, but also for his philanthropy. Because of Melih's business model, Comodo ensures that every Internet user has access to free firewall, antivirus and other security software. Comodo security software is now installed on 10 million computers worldwide. I don't know how to explain this on Melih's bio without sounding like puffery, but I wanted you to know about it. </p><p>Thanks for your help. Lakshmi VB Narsimhan 10:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Lakshmin" title="User:Lakshmin">Lakshmin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lakshmin" title="User talk:Lakshmin">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lakshmin" title="Special:Contributions/Lakshmin">contribs</a>) </span></small> </p> <dl><dd>I removed some of the tags, but I'm not positive he's notable enough to survive an AfD. I think you've done fine work on the article though, and I certainly won't be nominating it for deletion. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2009-01-23T16:50:00.000Z-Please_check"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;DET&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;DET&quot;}--><h2 id="DET" data-mw-thread-id="h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"></span>DET<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-DET-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;DET&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;DET&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET"></span>Hey there </p><p>Just wanted to let you know that per CSD I8, bit for bit copies may simply be speedily deleted. It's a way to avoid backlog at IFD. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z","author":"Rifleman 82","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z-DET"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I was wondering how it got deleted so quickly. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-08T08:51:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2008-09-08T08:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Law School Outlines&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Law School Outlines&quot;}--><h2 id="Law_School_Outlines" data-mw-thread-id="h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"></span>Law School Outlines<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Law_School_Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Law School Outlines&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Law School Outlines&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines"></span>Outlines.com is free. Removing it from the search "law school outlines" is truly a diservice and detriment to all Wiki users. Please undo your edit upon verifying my statement. Thank you. —Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Outlines&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Outlines (page does not exist)">Outlines</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Outlines" title="User talk:Outlines">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Outlines" title="Special:Contributions/Outlines">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z","author":"Outlines","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z-Law_School_Outlines"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"></span>I looked at the site, looks like a .com to me. I see a "contact me for promotions" checkbox. I see "If you do not have a credit and wish to download an outline, simply purchase (1) credit for $4.95". Spam link. I'm not putting it back. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T05:56:00.000Z-Outlines-2008-09-10T05:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!&quot;,&quot;c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"><span id="Thanks.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!","c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!","timestamp":"2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks!-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!&quot;,&quot;c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span>Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page! Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Apparition11" title="User:Apparition11">Apparition11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apparition11" title="User talk:Apparition11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z","author":"Apparition11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"></span>My pleasure. Thanks for the note! --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-10T06:13:00.000Z-Apparition11-2008-09-10T06:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span>Same message from me :) <a href="/wiki/User:Nosleep" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nosleep"><span style="color:#fef;background:black;">Don't fall asleep</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nosleep" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nosleep"><span style="color:black">zzzzzz</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z","author":"Nosleep","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":[],"displayName":"Don't fall asleep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nosleep-2008-09-10T10:40:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;thanks\u00a0:)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;thanks :)&quot;}--><h2 id="thanks_:)" data-mw-thread-id="h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z"><span id="thanks_:.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z"></span>thanks :)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)","timestamp":"2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-thanks_:)-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;thanks\u00a0:)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;thanks :)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)"></span>Thanks for the disambiguation redirect. I should not keep so many tabs open whilst editing :) svaksha 08:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)Svaksha </p> <dl><dd>Heh, no problem. :) It took me a while to figure out what you were doing, but once I did it seemed perfectly reasonable. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:17:00.000Z-thanks_:)"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks 2&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_2-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2"></span>For the reversion of my user page :) <a href="/wiki/User:Stephenb" title="User:Stephenb">Stephenb</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephenb" title="User talk:Stephenb">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z","author":"Stephenb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z-Thanks_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"></span>My pleasure, we've got some bad ones out tonight. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-16T08:57:00.000Z-Stephenb-2008-09-16T08:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;}--><h2 id="Image:CreatineSynthesis.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:CreatineSynthesis.png" title="File:CreatineSynthesis.png">Image:CreatineSynthesis.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Image:CreatineSynthesis.png&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png"></span>If you ever bothered to read the page where the image was used and had followed some of the links there, you should have known that there was a reason for the "typo" - the two steps of the Creatin synthesis are catalized by two different enzymes, hence two different abreviations - GATM (<b><span style="color:#990000">G</span></b>lycine <b><span style="color:#990000">a</span></b>midino<b><span style="color:#990000">t</span></b>ransferase, <b><span style="color:#990000">m</span></b>itochondrial) <a href="/wiki/Enzyme_Commission_number" title="Enzyme Commission number">EC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://enzyme.expasy.org/EC/2.1.4.1">2.1.4.1</a> and GAMT (<b><span style="color:#990000">G</span></b>uanidino<b><span style="color:#990000">a</span></b>cetate N-<b><span style="color:#990000">m</span></b>ethyl<b><span style="color:#990000">t</span></b>ransferase) <a href="/wiki/Enzyme_Commission_number" title="Enzyme Commission number">EC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://enzyme.expasy.org/EC/2.1.1.2">2.1.1.2</a> . The change - <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:CreatineSynthesis-GAMT.png&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:CreatineSynthesis-GAMT.png (page does not exist)">Image:CreatineSynthesis-GAMT.png</a> - makes it look as if both steps are done by the same enzyme which is not the case. So, I would suggest that you revert the change and do not delete my image yet. - <a href="/wiki/User:BorisTM" title="User:BorisTM">Boris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorisTM" title="User talk:BorisTM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z","author":"BorisTM","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Boris"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z-Image:CreatineSynthesis.png"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Sure thing. Too bad this wasn't noticed when your image was orphaned almost a year ago. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-17T19:31:00.000Z-BorisTM-2008-09-17T18:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Deleted images&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Deleted images&quot;}--><h2 id="Deleted_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Deleted images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Deleted_images-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Deleted images&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Deleted images&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images"></span>Hi there. If you delete images that I created ages ago which have now been superseded and replaced by svg files then thats cool, I don't need to be informed about it and it just clutters up my talk page! Unless its wikipedia policy and you are required to inform me in which case thats understandable I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:Meodipt" title="User:Meodipt">Meodipt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meodipt" title="User talk:Meodipt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Meodipt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z-Deleted_images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Cool. I am supposed to let the creator know, but I don't HAVE to. I'll avoid messaging you in the future. But hey, you got off easy - you should see what I've done to poor <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quantockgoblin" title="User talk:Quantockgoblin">Quantockgoblin</a>. (Oh, and in case you're curious, I've been cleaning up the "Should be SVG" category by removing orphans when I can.) --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-18T17:43:00.000Z-Meodipt-2008-09-18T12:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Image deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Image deletion&quot;}--><h2 id="Image_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"></span>Image deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Image_deletion-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Image deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Image deletion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion"></span>I noticed you marked a number of <a href="/wiki/.xcf" class="mw-redirect" title=".xcf">.xcf</a> files for deletion. I'm fairly sure they don't meet criteria <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#I10" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">WP:CSD#I10</a>, because they're images in a format suitable for editing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Carnildo" title="User:Carnildo">Carnildo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carnildo" title="User talk:Carnildo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z","author":"Carnildo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z-Image_deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"></span>I was worried about that. The ones I marked are files where the corresponding PNG images were deleted. What do you think is the proper route? The XCF files clearly should have been deleted as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z"></span>I'd nominate them on IFD to give more people a chance to participate. And make sure the corresponding image really has been deleted: in the case of <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Europe-WWI.xcf&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Europe-WWI.xcf (page does not exist)">Image:Europe-WWI.xcf</a>, it was merely renamed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Carnildo" title="User:Carnildo">Carnildo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carnildo" title="User talk:Carnildo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z","author":"Carnildo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z"></span>Will do, thanks. I've been asked to avoid IFD if I can get the job done with SD, so I probably push SD too far at times. Sorry for the mixup. --<a href="/wiki/User:JaGa" title="User:JaGa"><b><span style="color:#990000">Ja</span><span style="color:#000099">Ga</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JaGa" title="User talk:JaGa"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:small"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z","author":"JaGa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JaGa-2008-09-19T04:35:00.000Z-Carnildo-2008-09-19T04:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Speedy deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Speedy deletion 2&quot;}--><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Speedy deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2","timestamp":"2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Speedy_deletion_2-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2&quot;],&quot;uneditableSection&quot;:true,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Speedy deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Speedy deletion 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2"></span>Regarding the page <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:00896b.jpg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:00896b.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:00896b.jpg</a>, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "an image or other media file that is a redundant copy, in the same file format, and at the same or lower quality/resolution, of Image:Gallagher-Shean.png", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This page does not qualify for speedy deletion because the images are not in the same file format. If you still want the page to be deleted, please consider tagging it with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">speedy deletion template</a> which does apply, <a href="/wiki/Help:Redirect" title="Help:Redirect">redirecting</a> it to another page, or using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IFD">WP:IFD</a> process. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle/wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Stifle/wizard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JaGa/Archive_2#c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a> ·<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Stifle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-2008-09-19T17:51:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_2"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐int.codfw.main‐849f99967d‐gvf56 Cached time: 20241124004205 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.056 seconds CPU time usage: 0.208 seconds Real time usage: 0.400 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 758/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 3099/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 374/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 9/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 1679/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.041/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1293846/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 105.547 1 -total 94.81% 100.066 1 Template:Talk_archive_navigation 29.44% 31.075 2 Template:Is_redirect 5.47% 5.776 1 Template:FULLBASEPAGENAME 3.77% 3.984 1 Template:Ns_has_subpages 3.11% 3.287 1 Template:Chembarn 1.89% 1.995 2 Template:Yesno 1.32% 1.392 2 Template:EC_number 1.22% 1.293 1 Template:Chemical_datatable_header --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:18976546-0!canonical and timestamp 20241124004205 and revision id 1252472958. 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