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It is possible to open create new themes or answer to a question in this forum.<br><br> <br><br>--> <!--<br><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%"><form action="forum.asp" method=post name="form"><input type=hidden name=todo value=search><tr><td width="100%">Search <input type=text name=search size=10 style="width:100px;"> <a href="javascript:document.form.submit()" onmousedown="document.images['gobutton'].src='images/go_ro.gif'" onmouseout="document.images['gobutton'].src='images/go.gif'"><img src="/images/go.gif" name="gobutton" border=0 vspace=2></a> </td></form></tr></table>--></div><div class="text"><b><a href="forum.asp">Forum</a> - <a href="forum.asp?todo=subforum&subforum=43&pages=">Other Charts: Australia - Non ARIA</a> - Back to My Roots</b></div><br><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 class="content forumTable table655"><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648090"><a name="1">06/06/2008 10:41<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=bulion">bulion</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I thought I'd start a new thread about two things. Firstly, what was the first piece of music you bought as a youngun. Whether it was a 7&quot; single, a cassingle, or even a CD Single, it has to be something you actually went out and brought yourself, not something that nanna gave you for your birthday or Xmas.<br>Second one was what retro stuff are you listening to at the moment. I know we're all preoccupied with the here and now and tomorrows, but surely you must be discovering some older music, so let me know what you're all listening to.<br><br>Regards, Bulion.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648091"><a name="2">06/06/2008 10:44<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=bulion">bulion</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">My first purchase was a 7&quot; single of the 1982 classic (!) &quot;Girl Crazy&quot; by Hot Chocolate. I brought it at a market for a $1 to impress some girl I was after, and I was 12 years old at the time.<br>But I do class buying Michael Jackson's &quot;Thriller&quot; when I was 13 on cassette from K-Mart as my first official purchase.<br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>I am currently going through the &quot;Now That's What I Call Music&quot; collection from the UK. A friend gave me copies of the complete back catalogue from No.1 to No.60 (as I have 61 onwards), and have been rediscovering some lost gems.<br><br>Regards, Bulion.<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648094"><a name="3">06/06/2008 11:02<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=BeansterBarnes">BeansterBarnes</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Hrmmm, there's been a couplf instances where i've bought stuff but them lost or it got stolen so here are those sinarios.<br><br>1) My first cassingle or even any type of music was a double purchase! Rockmelons - It's Not Over Til It's Over & Prince - My Name Is Prince. Unfortunately that night I went to a party down the road & some meanie pinched them outta my jacket pocket, I never found them.<br><br>2) I remember working at the Casula mall for awhile, And I remember buying Pearl Jam - Go on CD single & Supergroove's You Gotta Know. I went back to the Court Tavern in Campbelltown where my dad was drinking after work & for some strange reason I left the CD's with my dad. Unfortunately he did not remember to pick them up & bring them home to me.<br><br>3) My first official purchase was at K-Mart in Hurstville, Sydney. That night me & my g/f were going to see Forrest Gump. I walked past the CD section & bought Zombie by The Cranberries.<br><br>I'm currently archiving 1992/93 (i.e Top 100 of the year & Singles that went Top 10) & anything that gets posted pre 1989 that went Top 10. So if I ain't got that song, I download it then archive it. <br><br>Craig<br><font color="#999999">Last edited: 07/06/2008 12:53</font></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648120"><a name="4">06/06/2008 12:35<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=rob1972">rob1972</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">my first purchase was also a double purchase swing the mood by Jive Bunny and Poison by Alice Cooper both of which i purchased at Big W at Macarthur Square.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648121"><a name="5">06/06/2008 12:35<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=rob1972">rob1972</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">both on cassingle<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648205"><a name="6">06/06/2008 17:16<br><b>Martin</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Wow great thread! My first cassingle I bought (well, I got my mum to buy for me) was &quot;You're History&quot; by Shakespeares Sister. The first cassette I actually bought was Eurythmics &quot;We Too Are One&quot;. By the time I grew an interest in collecting music, vinyl was long gone, but cassettes were the thing. Ha, I have so many cassettes in a box at my parent's home somewhere in the garage. I have most of them in mp3 now, thank god for the digital age! I'd be surprised if half of those cassettes might still play.<br><br>I even have the very first 100% Hits on cassette (LOL) I really wanted it for Christmas.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648208"><a name="7">06/06/2008 17:20<br><b>Martin</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Duh, I should also add that the VERY FIRST single I bought for myself was &quot;Pump Up The Volume&quot; by MARRS. It was in a sale bin but I loved that song. </div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648319"><a name="8">06/06/2008 21:30<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=chri8topher">chri8topher</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">My first CD purchases were Kylie's first album and Rick Astley &quot;Whenever You Need Somebody&quot;, although I think I went halves with mum. I'm pretty sure the Kylie CD is still in my collection, although CDs used to get sold then re-bought so often. First 7&quot; was Alf &quot;Stuck On Earth&quot; and first cassingle &quot;Like A Prayer&quot;.<br><br>As for the retro stuff, I have every major record compilation since 1970, and major CD compilation since Summer '87. The best source of retro gems there is!!! And so much better than the &quot;retro gems&quot; the radio plays today. I'm so glad I started collecting them as a youngster. I try and play one every few days. I hate letting music die.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648380"><a name="9">07/06/2008 07:26<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=NationOfZealots">NationOfZealots</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">My first CD purchase was Kylie Minogue's Some Kind Of Bliss back in late 1997, the first of a very vast collection, i normally only collect Idol CDs these days...</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648416"><a name="10">07/06/2008 11:15<br><b>James</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I think it was either Kylie's orignal Locomotion single or Duke of Earl (which was the decorae add) that dad first bought for me on vinyl<br><br>My first purchase was the B-52's Love shack- beginning 1990 my favourite year of music ever!!- I bought that single on vinyl and also that year bought madonna's Hanky Panky, Spin that wheel by Technotronic (or technically Hi tek 3 feat Ya kid K) and Emporer's new clothes by Sinead o'conner<br><br>As for album's- Jive Bunny, Milli Vanilli and Hits of 1990 Vol.3 were the first ones that made it into my collection!!</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648828"><a name="11">08/06/2008 09:56<br><b>Adam</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">On the subject of what Craig mentioned about archiving, I'm currently attempting to get a complete collection of all songs that made the top 10 between 1978 & 1992 (my favourite era)using the Australian Chart Book as a guide. So far I've done A to E in the alphabet and I'm only missing three songs:<br>Cheetah - Walking In The Rain (1978)<br>Dukes Of Earlwood feat. Armondo Hurley - Duke Of Earl (1988)<br>Euphoria - Do For You (1992)<br><br>It's funny that James mentioned that Duke Of Earl was one of the first singles he owned. I doubt there would be too many copies of the 1988 version around these days.<br><br>In response to thread subject of old music that I'm listening to, here are a list of 10 songs I've rediscovered so far that all made the top five in the 80's (one from each year). I'm almost certain I haven't heard any of them on the radio since they were hits (and probably never will again!):<br><br>Joe Dolce Music Theatre - Shaddap You Face (No.1, 1980)<br>Dr. Hook - The Wild Colonial Boy (No.4, 1981)<br>Charlene - I've Never Been To Me (No.1, 1982)<br>Irene Cara - Why Me (No.5, 1983)<br>Mel Brooks - To Be Or Not To Be (The Hitler Rap) (No.3, 1984)<br>Jim Diamond - I Should Have Known Better (No.1, 1985)<br>Artists United Against Aparthied - Sun City (No.4, 1986)<br>Chantoozies - Witch Queen (No.4, 1987)<br>Jason Donovan - Nothing Can Divide Us (No.3, 1988)<br>Collette - Ring My Bell (No.5, 1989)<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648835"><a name="12">08/06/2008 10:18<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=bulion">bulion</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Adam, contact me via email bulion@optusnet.com.au and I'll be able to send you those songs.<br><br>Regards, Bulion.<br><br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648854"><a name="13">08/06/2008 11:08<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=rob1972">rob1972</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Good to see i am not the only one having problems getting ahold of do for you by Euphoria<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648857"><a name="14">08/06/2008 11:12<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=BeansterBarnes">BeansterBarnes</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I have 'Do For You by Euphoria' it's available on 100% hits volume 6 or there album Total Euphoria.<br>Anyone after it contact me at BeansterBarnes@hotmail.com<br><br><br>Craig</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="648860"><a name="15">08/06/2008 11:17<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=rob1972">rob1972</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Craig <br>If you could send me that song i would be very grateful, my email is leaverrobert@hotmail.com if u ever need any i have over 2, 400 some hard to find such as communication by john farnham which me quite a bit to geld hold of lol<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649193"><a name="16">08/06/2008 20:45<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=chri8topher">chri8topher</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Adam, keep us posted on your missing songs.<br><font color="#999999">Last edited: 08/06/2008 21:13</font></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649257"><a name="17">09/06/2008 00:12<br><b>sam i am</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">my first purchase was &quot;Freaks&quot; by Live back in 1997 when I was 9 - a touch obscure, I suppose. my second was &quot;HIStory/Ghosts&quot; by Michael Jackson, also in 1997. My first album was &quot;Unit Re-booted&quot; by Regurgitator, which is still my favourite album to this day.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649265"><a name="18">09/06/2008 02:02<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=Nugs">Nugs</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Martin, Shakespear's Sister's &quot;You're History&quot; was about the 5th single I bought (on cassette). The first one was Yazz's &quot;Fine Time&quot; around April '89. I used to have a thing for buying more 'flop'/obscure singles, as I'd often get the 'hits' on compilation albums at the time.<br><br>The first album I bought was Laura Branigan's &quot;Self Control&quot; around Jan. '85, on cassette. The first compilation cassette I bought was '87 Hots Up.<br><br>The first CD single I bought was Shakespears Sister's &quot;Hello (Turn Your Radio On)&quot; in Dec '92. The first CD album I bought was 100% Hits Vol. 2 in Nov '91.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649270"><a name="19">09/06/2008 03:55<br><b>nathan</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I have do for you by Euphoria on CD single. It has some cool mixes featuring Young MC on it too!</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649271"><a name="20">09/06/2008 03:59<br><b>Nathan</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">The first whole CD i bought was the compilation Here we go 91. The first cassingles i bought were 3 on the same day. They were treaty by Yothu Yindi, Pump it (nice an' hard) by Icy Blu and Love thy will be done by Martika. I remember buying Kiss me By indecent Obsession around that time too. This was in 1992.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649272"><a name="21">09/06/2008 04:13<br><b><script language="JavaScript"> <!-- var first = "nate_reed19"; var second = "hotmail.com"; document.write('<a href="mailto:'); document.write(first); document.write('@'); document.write(second); document.write('">Nate</a>'); // --> </script></b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I was first bought Aqua - Aquarium at the end of 1997 for christmas. This was before i even owned a cd player...<br><br>My actual first purchase for myself did not come until 1999 [it took that long to save my pocket money to buy a cd player]. <br><br>I bought the single Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Ba Dee) and the first album was Smash Mouth - Astro Lounge.<br></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649277"><a name="22">09/06/2008 05:31<br><b>Roydges</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Hey Nate, great to know that we were on the same era when buying the very CD <IMG SRC="/images/wink.gif"><br><br>The first compilation that I bought would have to be Hit Machine 13 (in 1996 - I was 12 years old back then).<br><br>The first artist album that I bought for myself was Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. It was from that album and that era that sparked my interest in the Aria Charts and Take 40 Australia (when Barry Bissell still hosted the show before Andrew G took over), and collected some singles following on from that.<br><br>It wasn't until 1999 that my album collection grew (as the next album I bought was Everlast's 'Whitey Ford Sings The Blues') - This has cemented my love of music (all kinds, really) to this day.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649280"><a name="23">09/06/2008 06:26<br><b>Nathan</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Sorry, those cassingle purchases were in 1991...oops...kiss me was in 1992</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649286"><a name="24">09/06/2008 08:52<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=bulion">bulion</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Nugs; I used to do the same thing as you, buy the obscure chart hits that weren't on the compilations albums.<br>Whilst I do have every major compilation that came out since 1975 (Ripper 75), I did also buy the songs that weren't on the comps. My first comp album was &quot;Thru the Roof '83&quot;, which had my favourite single of of 1983, &quot;Australiana&quot;.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649371"><a name="25">09/06/2008 14:32<br><b><a href="members_search.asp?login=Nugs">Nugs</a></b><br>Member</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">bulion - my parents had Ripper '77 with the split netball skirt on the cover <IMG SRC="/images/shocked.gif"></div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="649401"><a name="26">09/06/2008 15:39<br><b>Martin</b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">Yup, I used to collect all the Hit Machines and 100% hits (even the year end best of ones which were basically repackaged crap of the stuff I already had) - but I loved buying obscure or sale-bin discards of stuff I had never heard of, I particularly liked to troll the US/UK charts and if I saw the single in the import section at HMV, I would buy it, even though it had no effect whatsoever on the ARIA chart.<br><br>Funny Nugs, you have Laura's &quot;Self Control&quot; - I found the 12&quot; for that song at a garage sale and I bought it. I have a cassette single of Samantha Fox's &quot;I Wanna Have Some Fun&quot; that I bought for 50c at a yardsale. LOL, but that wasn't until about 1991.</div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="text"><div style="width:108px;overflow:hidden"><a name="1558910"><a name="27"><script>tDate = new Date(2024, 9, 31, 0, 13, 45);writeDateTime(tDate);</script><noscript>31/10/2024 01:14</noscript><br><b><script language="JavaScript"> <!-- var first = "darrenbuchanan50"; var second = "gmail.com"; document.write('<a href="mailto:'); document.write(first); document.write('@'); document.write(second); document.write('">Darren Buchanan </a>'); // --> </script></b><br>Guest</div></td><td class="text"><div style="width:658px;overflow:hidden;" class="forumtext">I believe my first purchase was the Cyndi Lauper LP She's So Unusaul. I bought it at a record store in Mudgee in early 1984. 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